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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh. There's Chuck

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Speaker 2: Jerry's here too, and that makes this Stuff you Should Know,

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Speaker 2: which holds the record for the longest running podcast in

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Speaker 2: the history of the world as far as I know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, buddy, before we get going, I wanted to mention

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Speaker 1: with your permission, of course, Granted, I was recently a

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Speaker 1: guest on a very awesome podcast. We don't guess on

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Speaker 1: a lot of shows much anymore, but actor Paul Giamatti

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Speaker 1: has a podcast with his buddy, who is a philosophy

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Speaker 1: professor named Steven Asthma. It's called Chin Wag, and I

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Speaker 1: saw these guys live at sketch Fest and it was great,

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Speaker 1: and I think Stuff you Should Know people will really

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Speaker 1: not only enjoyed my guest appearance, but really love Chin Wag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from what you told me, it sounds pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: I haven't listened quite yet, but I think I'm going

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Speaker 2: to make my first episode your episode.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I appreciate that, and you should get on it.

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Speaker 1: I told you that, I'm sure they'd love to have you.

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Speaker 1: But Steven is super smart and mister Paul Giamatti is

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Speaker 1: amazingly smart and just a really well read, cool guy.

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Speaker 1: And the title says it all. A chin Wag is

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Speaker 1: just sort of a free flowing chat, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. We you know, the idea was that we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the Silurian hypothesis, which they didn't

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Speaker 1: know about yet, and we had just done a thing

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Speaker 1: on so I was like, what a great opportunity. But

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Speaker 1: we ended up talking about nuclear semiotics and the anti CAA,

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Speaker 1: THEEA mechanism, and ghost and religion and monkey intercourse and

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Speaker 1: it's just a really cool talk and I think stuff

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Speaker 1: you should know. People would really dig it. So it's

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Speaker 1: out now at the chin Wag.

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Speaker 2: Nice Chuck, congrats. I can't wait to listen.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks man, And you should be on. Should

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Speaker 1: we get on with the show?

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Speaker 2: H yeah, let's.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what we get to do now in

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Speaker 1: our our typical two episode percession way that is stuff

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Speaker 1: you should know, is we get to wash the stank

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Speaker 1: of Unit seven thirty one off of us talking about

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Speaker 1: a very fun thing, which is the Guinness Book of

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Speaker 1: World's Records or the Guinness World Records. I feel like

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, it was called the Guinness

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Speaker 1: Book of World Records in the United States. I imagine

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Speaker 1: that we are similar and that you probably had a

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Speaker 1: copy of this in your house. No, oh, you didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, we weren't all Lotti dah. I had to get

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Speaker 2: from the school library.

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Speaker 1: We had a copy of the Guinness Book. I think

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Speaker 1: it probably got it as like a Christmas skipt one

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Speaker 1: year and.

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Speaker 2: Lifted it from his school library. He brought it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he may have property of red in elementary school.

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Speaker 1: So I remember very distinctly, though, pouring through this thing

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Speaker 1: as a kid, and just like it was such a

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Speaker 1: just like I poured over every page of this thing

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Speaker 1: like it was my Bible or something. I was so

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Speaker 1: into it. I thought it was so cool. Like this

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Speaker 1: may have been my uncle John's bathroom reader for you.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, I yeah, okay, I got ye both. No no, no,

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Speaker 2: Uncle John's bathroom Reader definitely trumped it, for sure, But

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Speaker 2: the Guinness Book of World Records for sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember some of those pictures from the classic edition.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the guy with the longest fingernails also had

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Speaker 2: a really long beard if I remember correctly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the two guys, those two heavy twins on the motorbikes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the McCrary brothers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the tall guy, that big giant, tall guy tall

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about them. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: We both grew up on the same pictures and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're just burned into my brain. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember some of the names. I want to say

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Speaker 1: that guy's name was Robert Wadlow, But that's just literally

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Speaker 1: digging out from my, you know, nine year old lizard brain.

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Speaker 2: That would be pretty impressive if you just did that.

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Speaker 1: Will you pull the brothers out of your keyster?

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Speaker 2: I looked him up. Okay, I'm not walking around with

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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, is this this great book

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Speaker 1: that is still going strong at about a million copies

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Speaker 1: the Guinness Book right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Let's but before we do, Chuck, let's give a

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Speaker 2: shout out to listener Mallory Stafford, who's the one who

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Speaker 2: So yes, let's go back, Chuck, way back to the

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Speaker 2: nineteen forties, technically nineteen fifty, but we'll check in in

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Speaker 2: nineteen forty five with a guy named Sir Hugh Beaver.

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Speaker 2: This excuse me, Sir Hugh Beaver. Oh okay, and this

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Speaker 2: was before he was a knight. I believe he was knighted,

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Speaker 2: probably because of his work with the Guinness Book of

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Speaker 2: but I think it's pretty safe bet, although completely superfluous

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Speaker 2: and an unnecessary one. But he ended up going to

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Speaker 2: work for Guinness and Son, the beer company. So if

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Speaker 2: you've ever wondered if the Guinness Book of World Records

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Speaker 2: is actually connected to the Guinness Beer Company, my friend, yes,

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Speaker 2: they absolutely are. The guy who was the managing director

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Speaker 2: of Guinness Son and Company Limited, the Guinness Beer Company,

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Speaker 2: Guinness Book of World Records.

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Speaker 1: That's right, It was a Guinness product in fact, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to all that. But that to me is

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate. You got one of the

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Speaker 1: facts of the podcast. If people, next time you're in

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Speaker 1: you know the Guinness Book of World Record is started

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Speaker 1: out because of the Guinness beer. And if they say no,

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Speaker 2: Knowing me, in my luck, I would say that and

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Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh really, you won't think everybody know that? Right,

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Speaker 2: That's what I would be met with, and then I'd

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Speaker 2: smash their face on the bar.

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Speaker 1: Right. So there's a pretty good story here that kind

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Speaker 1: of is the seed of this whole idea, and it

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Speaker 1: goes as follows. In nineteen fifty, as you promised, Sir

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Speaker 1: Hugh Beaver was hunting with some friends in Ireland and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the origin of the Guinness Book of

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Speaker 1: Seriously, had he shot that bird, we may not have

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Speaker 2: No, and it's a good thing that that golden plover

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Speaker 2: because it stuck with Sir Hugh Beaver for so long,

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Speaker 2: for four years that he finally was like it morphed.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine how many times he chewed it over

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Speaker 2: is like, I got this great idea. We can put

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Speaker 2: And we're even gonna make the cover waterproof so that

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Speaker 2: if you still beer on it, so it'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: Every pub in all of England's going to have one

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Speaker 1: Idea, yeah, and just fun, Like I just love the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Hugh Beaver, though, was like, Hugh Beaver, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's different ways to say it. Hugh Beaver. Sure, I

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Speaker 2: So Hugh Beaver, I said. Hugh Beaver, by the way, okay,

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Speaker 1: Like fun stuff though if.

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Speaker 2: They yeah, but it was also I think if you

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Speaker 2: and they would turn to their encyclopedias and be like,

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Speaker 2: And that's what we're going to make. And they said,

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Speaker 1: That's right. They formed their own company based in London

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Speaker 1: just the sort of sourcing of what would go in

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Speaker 1: four months just sending you know, this is nineteen fifty four,

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Speaker 2: Yes, eventually, Guinness the Beer Company was like, this has

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck, that was a fantastic road trip. I've never

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Speaker 2: you said, about half the people are like nuts to this,

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Speaker 2: I don't care that much about this, and that really

433
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Speaker 2: kind of separates a lot of the posers out, which

434
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Speaker 2: you have left for the real deal record breaker people.

435
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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people are like, I probably

436
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Speaker 1: just have to click a thing and upload a video.

437
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think that, Yeah.

438
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, not again, wrong, wrong, wrong.

439
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Speaker 2: All right.

440
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Speaker 1: So here's just a few things. If you want to

441
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Speaker 1: qualify for a title, a record has to be the following.

442
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Has to be measurable easy. It has to be breakable

443
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Speaker 1: unless it's a quote significant first like first person to

444
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: do something. It has to be something that someone else

445
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: can try to do and break.

446
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: Check.

447
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: It has to be standardizable, which is anyone all over

448
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: the world could try and do this thing.

449
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: I think that's great. That's very inclusive.

450
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it too. It has to be verifiable, ibby.

451
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: Like, you can't be the person with the most ghosts

452
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Speaker 2: haunting them.

453
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Speaker 1: No, right, exactly, most haunted person. Right, this one is interesting.

454
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Speaker 1: It has to involve a single variable. So you could

455
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Speaker 1: be like the longest underwater tea party. But if there

456
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Speaker 1: is that record, you can't be like, well, I'm the

457
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Speaker 1: longest underwater tea party wearing it too too.

458
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, for sure, they definitely. The guy explained in

459
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Speaker 2: that a Freakonomics interview that if you open it up

460
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Speaker 2: like that. It just it's gonna just grow exponentially in

461
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: it's just dumb. He's like, no underwater tea party, longest

462
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Speaker 2: underwater tea party, that's interesting. Who cares if you're wearing

463
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Speaker 2: A two two or not. Frankly, you should be wearing

464
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Speaker 2: a too two If you have an underwater tea party,

465
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Speaker 2: that should be you know, it should go without saying.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The last two things are it has to be universal,

467
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Speaker 1: so like, because they sell this book all over the world,

468
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Speaker 1: that has to be something that everyone can kind of

469
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Speaker 1: see and understand and enjoy. Very inclusive again, yeah, very

470
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Speaker 1: much inclusive. And then finally it has to be substantially

471
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Speaker 1: different than a current record.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which ties into that underwater tea party two two thing.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah a little bit.

474
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Speaker 2: I think so about fifty thousand applications a year, like

475
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Speaker 2: we said, and I think something like every year two

476
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Speaker 2: thousand new records are added to the Guinness War Records database.

477
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Speaker 2: So say twenty five thousand give it a try, two

478
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Speaker 2: thousand are successful. That's what between five and ten percent

479
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Speaker 2: I think of attempts are successful. It's actually not too bad.

480
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: And this database just keeps growing and growing apparently, there's

481
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Speaker 2: like forty thousand records, and if you're trying to set

482
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Speaker 2: a record, you have access to all forty thousand because

483
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Speaker 2: you need to. But if you're just hanging out on

484
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: the website and just looking up stuff for fun, so

485
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: you can still see fifteen thousand different records, but only

486
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Speaker 2: four thousand records are put into the book every year,

487
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Speaker 2: and a lot of those are like classics, Like I

488
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Speaker 2: think at least half are like classic ones that have

489
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Speaker 2: been in there for years and years and years that

490
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Speaker 2: people just want to see that weren't necessarily broken in

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Speaker 2: the past year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried to find new entries in the book

493
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Speaker 1: each year, and I couldn't find that number. But I

494
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Speaker 1: mean it's not a lot, so less than five percent

495
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Speaker 1: even get that world record. So out of fifty thousand people,

496
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Speaker 1: you have a very very slim chance of making it

497
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Speaker 1: in that book. If that's what you're and that's kind

498
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Speaker 1: of what everyone's goal is, you want to be in the.

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Speaker 2: Book, you do, because that's the thing. Even if you

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Speaker 2: set a record, you're not necessarily going to be in

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Speaker 2: the book. Like you said, that's actually a slim You

502
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: have a slim chance of being in the book. Even

503
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: if you break a record, the thing you can definitely

504
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: be guaranteed to get is a certificate saying that you

505
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: are the official record holder and you'll be in that

506
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: giant database.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Should we tell the story of our our friend

508
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Speaker 1: and a guy who designed our.

509
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Speaker 2: Website, the webmaster.

510
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, our buddy Brandon. I mean you should tell the

511
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Speaker 1: story because you understand more about this. I guess that

512
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Speaker 1: you knew that Brandon had briefly held againness record. Is

513
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Speaker 1: that right? And you emailed about it?

514
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: Yes, he and a friend. So apparently Brandon was one

515
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: of those people who will kind of touch on later

516
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: on in the show. But he's one of those people

517
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Speaker 2: who just had like a lifelong ambition. It was on

518
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Speaker 2: his life list, as he put it, to break a

519
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: world record, to be a world record holder. So just

520
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: wanted to do it. Yeah, so he said he looked

521
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: into all sorts of different stuff. I think one of

522
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: them is like fastest moonwalk in one hundred meters, longest

523
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Speaker 2: distance travel like a bouncy ball, And he finally came

524
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Speaker 2: up with fastest four hundred meter piggyback ride. Okay, and

525
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: he and friend trained for that for a while. From

526
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Speaker 2: what I remember, and they finally did it. They broke

527
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Speaker 2: the record, and apparently the record he chose was just

528
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: randomly not the record he should have chosen, because they

529
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Speaker 2: had their record broken by somebody else so quickly that

530
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Speaker 2: he wasn't even able to get a certificate, so that

531
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Speaker 2: he got an email saying, like, you, actually your record

532
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: was broken, but for a very brief time, you were

533
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Speaker 2: the world record holder on the four hundred meter piggyback ride.

534
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I know, I know, but he's got that

535
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Speaker 2: to carry around with him. He was. He achieved his

536
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: life goal because I mean, think about it. He could

537
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: have trained for years and still never broken the record,

538
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: but he did.

539
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Speaker 1: Do you know if he was the piggybacker or piggybacky.

540
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: I believe he was the Well, which one's which one?

541
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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know.

542
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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the guy carrying the piggy as far

543
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: as I remember.

544
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that would be the piggybacker. Oh no,

545
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: maybe the piggybacky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the piggybacky is probably what that

547
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Speaker 2: would be.

548
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the polls, okay, all right, so we

549
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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about they what you have to

550
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: do to get a record or what qualifies they do

551
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: exclude here's here's what you can't do. You can't do

552
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: something that's dangerous to other people if you're a grown

553
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: adult and you want to try something you know reasonably dangerous,

554
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Speaker 1: like a skydive or something. I think Olivia found the

555
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: example of a Bonzie skydive. That's when I'd never heard

556
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: of this. That's when you throw your parachute out of

557
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Speaker 1: the plane. Then you jump out and you wait as

558
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: long as you can before like grabbing hold of this

559
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: thing and deploying it. So you can do something like

560
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Speaker 1: that if you're a grown adult and decide that you

561
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Speaker 1: want to undertake that danger. What you can't do is

562
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Speaker 1: put someone else in danger.

563
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Speaker 2: Right, And there's some other stuff too that that they

564
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: they're like, we're not doing this anymore, like anything that

565
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: has to do with pets that involves that they could

566
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Speaker 2: be dangerous to them like they used to do like

567
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: the heaviest pet thing. And then they were like, you know,

568
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: just having a record out there constitutes a dare to

569
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Speaker 2: some people. Some things we shouldn't do, and encouraging people

570
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: to overfeed their pet so that they can become the

571
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Speaker 2: world record holders, as that's just one we should avoid

572
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: excessive eating for people as well, like humans as well.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, what else anything involving drinking funny kind

574
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Speaker 1: of forgeinness, but they're like, yeah, I mean I get

575
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: the spirit, but you can't try and set the record

576
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Speaker 1: for you know, funneling Jack Daniels.

577
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Just maybe nauseated man.

578
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Anything illegal obviously is not allowed. And and anything involving

579
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Speaker 1: kids under sixteen that they deem unsuitable. If you're between

580
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: sixteen and eighteen and it is suitable, you have to

581
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: still have to have a parent or guardian sort of

582
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Speaker 1: sign up with you.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah. That. Craig Glenday, the editor in chief, is like,

584
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Speaker 2: you know, we actually don't trust parents to not give

585
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: their kids steroids to break someone's record, So we're just

586
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: not gonna do that at all. Some of the other ones,

587
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: they used to do longest kiss, but like you have

588
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: to keep kissing, and people would kiss for literally days

589
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: and it's just dangerous. Dance marathon, same thing. Yeah, and

590
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: then invasive surgery, Chuck. They used to have stuff for

591
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Speaker 2: invasive surgery, and now they're like people will actually go

592
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: get surgery just to be a record holder. So we

593
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: should stop stop doing that as well.

594
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Speaker 1: Holy boy. All right, so let's take another break and

595
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about how these things are judged or you know,

596
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Speaker 1: kind of the oversight. I guess right after this sweat

597
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: shop stop. All right, so we promised talk of oversight.

598
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Very exciting stuff. But you can't just willy nilly, send

599
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: in a video and say all right, I've done my job.

600
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: They employ what's what are called adjudicators either adjudicator that's right.

601
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Speaker 1: They're about ninety of them that travel all over the

602
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Speaker 1: world and in pre you know, sort of digital age.

603
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Speaker 1: This is the only way to do it. You would

604
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Speaker 1: have an adjudicator come to you.

605
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

606
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: The adjudicators apparently have to. It's sort of like mission impossible.

607
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: You agree to you know, like hey, I got to

608
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Speaker 1: go to Singapore and then you find out what record

609
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: that you're agreeing to oversee, which is interesting. What else,

610
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: what's this business about a jacket?

611
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh well, you have to wear the officially approved outerwear,

612
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: a jacket that has like the Guinness World Records logo

613
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: on it. You also there's other rules too. You can't

614
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: socialize with the record attempters or there are people after

615
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: hours to be a very professional. Yeah, no fraightnization. You

616
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: can't eat or drink during the whole thing. Like you're

617
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: just meant to be an impartial business like professional. Yeah,

618
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: that's what your job is. No matter how wacky or nuts,

619
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Speaker 2: what the person is trying to do is you're taking

620
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Speaker 2: it seriously. They're trying to break a record. That's your

621
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Speaker 2: job as an adjudicator. And like you said, they travel

622
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Speaker 2: the world. Apparently there's a huge emphasis on speaking to

623
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Speaker 2: the media because that's a big role for Guinness World Record.

624
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: It's there a media company that's extraordinarily media savvy, so

625
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: they make sure that they're ninety adjudicators are savvy as well.

626
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you go through about a week

627
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: of training and part of that is media training and

628
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: just simple stuff like how to work a measuring tape

629
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Speaker 1: or how to measure whatever you need to measure. You

630
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that they have to take it seriously, even if

631
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Speaker 1: it's dumb. You also have to have the very you know,

632
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: your face with a very tough job of telling someone

633
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: sometimes a small child is trying to break a record

634
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: that they failed and that they didn't get it. So

635
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: you have to be able to break the news to

636
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Speaker 1: people in a in a way that I would assume

637
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: is has some compassion, a note of compassion, and then

638
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: sometimes you might be in a situation that you need

639
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: to get out of, like Glen Day was talking about this.

640
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: One adjudicator was or maybe Glen Day was, I think

641
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: it was him.

642
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

643
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Moscow or attempt to an attempt to

644
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: break the largest concrete pouring. The engineers learned that they

645
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: couldn't make it possible due to weather the weather conditions,

646
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: said they were going to try and fake it. So

647
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Speaker 1: he's there in Moscow. These guys are trying to fake

648
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Speaker 1: this thing, and the idea that they came up with

649
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Speaker 1: was which was officially sanctioned, and I guess this is

650
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: probably a rule, is like, hey, if you're in a

651
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: scary situation like that, just tell them they got the

652
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: record and get out of there and we'll revoke it

653
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: the next day.

654
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he did. He was worried about standing

655
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: on the edge of a massive hole with the kind

656
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: of people who would try to break a concrete pouring record. Yeah,

657
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: and be upset when you told them that they didn't

658
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: break the record. He's like, Nah, I'm just gonna go

659
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: ahead and say yes, congratulations, and then the next day

660
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: text them sorry after revoke it.

661
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Lol. Yeah, they come with that certificate frame certificate. If

662
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: they fail, they shred it. I was gonna say, right

663
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: in front of their face.

664
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, hopefully not in front of them.

665
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: They shred it to make sure it's not stolen from somebody.

666
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 2: They shred it and then they make the attempter eat

667
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: the shredded paper.

668
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: This is marinera. But these days, you know, obviously, even

669
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: when ninety adjudicators there are fifty thousand entries, even if

670
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: half of those drop out, you still can't send these

671
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: people all over the world that much. So now in

672
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the digital age, most of this stuff is remote, but

673
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: there are lots of strict rules and hoops you have

674
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: to jump through to prove that you're not faking. Again

675
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: just some video that you've deep faked or something.

676
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they take this quite seriously, like you

677
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: can't send a video that shows it and just that

678
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: like you just did it yourself. You set up a

679
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: camera on a tripod and you may very well have

680
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: broken the record, but that doesn't cut it. You have

681
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: to have actual live witnesses who are not family members

682
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: who are not even friends necessarily. There's a lot, Like

683
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot, right, there's a lot you want to

684
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: do ahead of time to understand and make sure that

685
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: you're doing everything correctly, which is why they have those guidelines,

686
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: which again is why a lot of people drop out,

687
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: because they think, I just need to set up a

688
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: phone on like one of those right tabletop mounts and

689
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: you know, hula hoop for eighteen days in front of

690
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: it and then do that.

691
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, though you know I mentioned the adjudicators

692
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: obviously can't go to that many places. It seems like

693
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: they're pretty much reserved these days for paid appearances. So

694
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: you can fast track. If you've got six thousand pounds

695
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: or almost seventy five hundred American US dollars, you can

696
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: fast track your record and get that adjudicator to come out.

697
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money to drop on a world record,

698
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: but if you're into that, then you can spend that.

699
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: My friend, you think that's a lot of money, Imagine

700
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: eleven thousand pounds to get an adjudicator to come out.

701
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: And what is that, Well, that is actually like a

702
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: separate wing of Guinness World Records GWR. Consultancy, and it's

703
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: a controversial new revenue stream, as the HR would put it,

704
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: where if you're a company, you're a brand again, as

705
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: HR would put it, you can go to GWR Consultancy

706
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: and say like, hey, I'm not getting a lot of

707
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: play on Instagram these days? How can I get my

708
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: brand out there in a really eye popping way? And

709
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: GWR Consultancy says, well, let's figure out a record you

710
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: can break that may or may not be tied to

711
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: your business, but either way, we're gonna make a big

712
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: deal out of it, and you will get some media

713
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: exposure even if you don't break the record, but you're

714
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to pay us some money first. And everything

715
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: that they're doing is above the boards. It like when

716
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: you when the company tries to break the record of

717
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: supposedly like a quarter of them don't do it. Even

718
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: though this is like almost tailor are made for their company,

719
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: they still don't necessarily succeed and none of them make

720
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: it in the book. It's a money making side, but

721
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: they're still legitimately setting or breaking records.

722
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying not to like knock it too much.

723
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: About half their revenue comes from that companies. You know,

724
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: companies need to make money, but it almost just feels like, hey,

725
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: if you want to pay for this official stamp, then

726
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: you can do.

727
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: So, like the Better Business Bureau, like you can pay

728
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: to get a higher rating, yeah, which is like, well

729
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: what's the point of the Better Business Bureau. That doesn't

730
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: quite rise to that with Guinness World Records, because they're

731
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: still saying like, yes, they paid to get you know,

732
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: their thing fast tracked and getting adjudicator out there to

733
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: work with them about figuring it, like we worked with them,

734
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: but they're actually doing this actual thing and they may

735
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: or may not succeed, so it is legitimate. It is

736
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: very like I said, it's controversial and a lot of

737
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: people like you don't like it. They're there are some

738
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: that have been way more controversial than others. Guinness got

739
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: itself in a little bit of international hot water because

740
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: apparently Turkmenistan's dictator Gribon Ghuli Birdie Muhemenoff he I practiced

741
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: that so much, Chuck, and I still didn't get it

742
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: quite right. I'm gonna try to again. Gribon Guli Birded Muhemedov,

743
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: I think that's right. So I found his name from

744
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: John Yeah, John Oliver on last week tonight.

745
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't say it with the British accent, No,

746
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: And he's.

747
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Like, not to be confused with the gribon Guli Birdie

748
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: Muhamedov that you went to high school. This is the

749
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: dictator from Turkmenistan and the reason that he was apparently

750
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: a fan of the Guinness World Records and so we

751
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: started like ordering his country to start breaking records, and

752
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: Guinness worked with him and took a lot of heat

753
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: for it.

754
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this record is so one of the

755
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: ones that was successful was highest density of buildings with

756
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: white marble cladding.

757
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes, but he didn't have that already and then called Guinness.

758
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: He ordered that to be built in one of the

759
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: cities in turk Menistan so that he like that turk

760
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: Menistan could have this record. Yeah.

761
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Well, because of stuff like this, some of the old

762
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: guard is they used to work there isn't too thrilled

763
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: with the direction the company's taken. There's a woman named

764
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Anna Nicholas who was the head of PR in the

765
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. In a Guardian interview that was just saying, like,

766
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, they've kind of lost their way they're more

767
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: sensationalists too, sensationalists now and Norris McWhorter's own son, Alistair

768
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: said they've lost the intellectual integrity that the twins.

769
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: Had as well as that love and feeling.

770
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: That's right. Should we talk about some fun records.

771
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Let's but real quick. I just wanted to kind of

772
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: put a bow on that whole thing. What we're talking

773
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: about is the Guinness Book of World Records not just

774
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: surviving but actually thriving in the Internet age. And that

775
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: is just amazing in and of itself that it's not

776
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: just like some brand that's on like its last leg

777
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: or something like that. It still sells a million books

778
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: a year. It still makes like international news. They're very

779
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: media savvy, like they'll tie world records to you know,

780
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: international news, and all of a sudden they're in the

781
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: international news cycle like they're still around. And one of

782
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: the reasons why is because they still adhere to like

783
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: the principles that Norris and Ross created, which is like

784
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: it has to be correct, it has to be accurate,

785
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: it has to be factual, it has to be legitimate,

786
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: and they try to do that as much as possible.

787
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: I think some people are like they're playing way too

788
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: fast and loose for that to be to be the case. Still,

789
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: but there's still like they're still doing it, and I say,

790
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: hats off. I'm really glad that the Guinness World Records are.

791
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Still around, totally absolutely.

792
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Okay, now we can talk about some funny records.

793
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Okay, good, We'll talk fingernails, because we mentioned that early

794
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: that was one of the just sort of legendary pictures

795
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: from those early books was that Chinese priest didn't even

796
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: have a name on this guy who had those curly

797
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: those you know, long curly fingernails twenty two and three

798
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: quarters inches. Today, the woman who owns that record is

799
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: a woman named Diana Armstrong. I believe she's from Minnesota,

800
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: and her total fingernail length is over forty two feet

801
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: close to forty three forty two feet ten point four inches,

802
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: and she this is very sad, but she hasn't cut

803
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: her nails since nineteen ninety seven when her sixteen year

804
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: old daughter died from an asthma attack in her sleep,

805
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: and her daughter apparently loved her mom's fingernails, helped her

806
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: do her nails. So Diana Armstrong was like him, never

807
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: cutting these and if you wonder what forty two feet

808
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: fingernails looks like.

809
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: It's astounding.

810
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she's there's there's pictures where she's holding her

811
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: hand about shoulder height and the fingernails reach all the

812
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: way down to the floor like a cane, and they

813
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: are just astounding looking. I don't I don't know how

814
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: she gets anything done.

815
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we also we have to like give credit

816
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: to the previous record holder, a woman named Lee Redman

817
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: who held the record before Diana Armstrong. And who I

818
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: guess is like, Okay, we're gonna lose it to somebody else.

819
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Like that's a pretty good person to lose it to.

820
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

821
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: So what about Evil Kniebel? I remember we mentioned this

822
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: in the Evil Knievel two parter, which I still can't

823
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: believe we did.

824
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, broken bones by a human.

825
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, four hundred and thirty three, as the story goes, Yeah, no,

826
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: not all at once. There's a guy named George Kaminski

827
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: who was serving a life sentence in Pennsylvania, and apparently

828
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: the prison yards in Pennsylvania were full of four leaf clovers,

829
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: and for a little while, Kaminski held the largest collection

830
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: of four leaf clovers at just under seventy three thousand

831
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: four leaf clovers that he collected while in prison, and

832
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: then they moved him to a prison with fewer four

833
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: leaf clovers in the prison yard, and he suddenly was

834
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: quickly he lost his record.

835
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: All right, I would like to mention Ashrita Furman, because

836
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: if you're wondering if someone wanted to hold like the

837
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: record for Guinness Records, then that of course has happened.

838
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: This is a dude in New York City. He has

839
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: the record for the most world records and he's been

840
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: doing this for forty years plus. He was a kid

841
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: just like us that was sort of obsessed with this book,

842
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: and in the late nineteen seventies was like, all right,

843
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: here's my deal. I want to get in that book

844
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: more than anyone else by doing stuff like jumping jacks

845
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: and farthest distance treked on while balancing a bike on

846
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: a chin, hula, hooping underwater. These are the sort of little,

847
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: just funny, odd human feats that Ashrida has made over

848
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: the years. And you know how many records?

849
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: Is it?

850
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Seven hundred plus seven hundred plus?

851
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, he just said it's his life's work

852
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: to hold as many records as he possibly could. And

853
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: he holds the record for the most records, right.

854
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

855
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: That's just amazing, man, I love that.

856
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

857
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: He's apparently a really good guy too, Like he helps

858
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: other people who are like him figure out, you know,

859
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: what records to go after, because he's like a jack

860
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: of all trades. Yeah, and I've noticed. I think there's

861
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: an economy of scale to it. So, for example, he

862
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: holds the record for longest distance I guess walked or

863
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: whatever with a bicycle balanced on your chin. He also

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Speaker 2: holds the record for the most pine classes balanced on

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Speaker 2: your chin eighty one. That's a lot of pine classes,

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Speaker 2: glass pine classes.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get it balancing things on his gin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's what he'll do. He'll like

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Speaker 2: dedicate himself to learning something and then you can break

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different records by doing similar things, right,

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Speaker 2: like balancing stuff on your chin. But he's all over

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Speaker 2: the place, like most arrow's broken with your neck in

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Speaker 2: one minute shu, like hula hooping underwater. Like he's like

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Speaker 2: he's not a one trick pony, He's a multiple trick pony.

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Speaker 2: I guess is the best way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta be if you want to set the

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Speaker 1: record for records exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, John. Yeah, there's so much more I

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Speaker 2: want to say, but it will never come up with

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Speaker 2: a better ending for this episode than that, So let's.

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Speaker 1: Leave it at that, agreed.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know more about Guinness World Records

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Speaker 2: than friends, there are some great ones out there that

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Speaker 2: you can delight and amuse yourself and you're friends with.

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Speaker 2: Just go all over the internet, or even better, go

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Speaker 2: buy a copy of Guinness Book of World Records. Comes

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Speaker 2: out every year. And since I said it comes out

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Speaker 2: every year, that's triggered listener mail.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna call this wind power in Texas. We've

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Speaker 1: heard from quite a few Texans. This from Ben and Denton, Texas. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to hear you talk about the great ways

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Speaker 1: that we bolstered our wind and solar over the years.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize that Texas has its

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Speaker 1: own grid. And another thing people don't realize is that

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Speaker 1: there are many municipally owned utility companies here and Denton

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Speaker 1: is one of the City of Denton owns and manages

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Speaker 1: utilities for its citizens. I was actually a member of

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Speaker 1: the Public Utilities Board for a couple of years, which

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Speaker 1: is a board made just of citizens to have oversight

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Speaker 1: of the city's utility operations. And I really learned a lot,

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Speaker 1: namely that Denton has pushed to source our electricity supply

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Speaker 1: exclusively from renewable resources for many years now. Denton also

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Speaker 1: has a huge push for other renewable energy efficient options

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Speaker 1: for its citizens, from discounts on solar panels and smart

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Speaker 1: thermostats to free trees for your property.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: While we're talking about Texas, Denton is the home to

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Speaker 1: one of the largest universities in Texas, University of North Texas.

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't meant to look at their mascot, failed

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Speaker 1: to do so, which makes it a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a liberal leaning town in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 1: much of Texas obviously is still hyper conservative. It's a

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Speaker 1: real shame how many politicians here seem to be arbitrarily

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Speaker 1: pushing it to shut down solar and wind farms. There's

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Speaker 1: no logical reason for it. Sure, it doesn't grow the

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Speaker 1: oil industry, but it does grow our supply in total,

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Speaker 1: which is what we need, and it's sustainable, which is

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Speaker 1: a win win in my book. Anyways, as always, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate what you guys do, what you say and how

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Speaker 1: you say it, and I'd always agree. But that's life.

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Speaker 1: That is from Ben Jumper.

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Speaker 2: Very nice, Thanks a lot, Ben.

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Speaker 1: What are they? Did you look it up?

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to look at us? It's the

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Speaker 2: the University of North Texas?

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Speaker 1: Right, uh yeah, sure?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me going be b b b boop.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at that.

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Speaker 1: I've got it right here. Scrappy the Eagle.

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Speaker 2: I would have never come up with that.

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Speaker 1: That's their mascot. They say they're the mean Green Nation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, they're the North Texas mean Green. There you go,

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Speaker 1: so go mean Green.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and go wind Energy. Who is that from? Again?

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Speaker 1: That was from Ben Jumper.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Ben. That's wonderful. Glad you're doing great

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Speaker 2: work out there. Keep it up, buddy. And if you

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Speaker 2: want to be like Ben and tell us about some

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Speaker 2: great work your town, or your region, or your country

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Speaker 2: or your universe is doing, we want to hear about it.

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