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Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles, jymart How you doing, my man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: It's been a good day. You know. The football has

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Speaker 1: been a little average at times today for some teams.

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Speaker 1: But this NFL game just feels big. It feels important.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot going on. There was that cool

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Speaker 1: deal with halftime that we can talk about, but just generally,

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Speaker 1: this feels like a playoff game. It definitely feels like

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Speaker 1: it has a playoff like atmosphere to it. And I

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Speaker 1: am ready for this. I'm ready for Monday Nights games

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Speaker 1: obviously in college football and the National Championship Game, but

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Speaker 1: I am ready for this NFL postseason because it's going

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Speaker 1: to be great.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be great and for people just

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Speaker 2: driving around, I know to Sega, just gave you an update.

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Speaker 2: I know Martin and VJ we're talking about it throughout

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Speaker 2: the last couple hours. But at Jerry World, we have

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Speaker 2: hit the under. We just hit the two minute warning.

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Speaker 2: We are under two minutes. Dallas up seventeen to thirteen,

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Speaker 2: j mart And what I think is pretty cool. So

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Speaker 2: Detroit did just take a time out. Dallas does have

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Speaker 2: the ball, so obviously Dallas trying to salt away the

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Speaker 2: clock and win this game. But I think what's kind

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Speaker 2: of cool about this game, Like you said, playoff atmosphere,

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Speaker 2: playoff vibes, And what's been cool is by the way,

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Speaker 2: Detroit I believe, is out of timeouts right now, so

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Speaker 2: Dallas it is second and fourteen, so obviously Dallas will

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Speaker 2: likely run the ball in the next two plays. But

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Speaker 2: what's interesting about this game, Jason is you know, obviously

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Speaker 2: Detroit clinched the division but last week. But it's not

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Speaker 2: as though they've been bad, Like it's not as though

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Speaker 2: they didn't show up or they're resting guys or whatever.

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Speaker 2: This has just been a big, fun back and forth

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Speaker 2: game with Dallas up seventeen thirteen, under two minutes to go.

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Speaker 3: They did just throw it.

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Speaker 1: That's a weird decision right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to you know, we're live on

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Speaker 2: We obviously don't have sound on because we're reacting in

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Speaker 2: real time. I was trying to figure out, am I

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Speaker 2: missing something? It doesn't feel like I am though, So

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Speaker 2: it was second in fourteen Detroit.

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Speaker 3: I believe is out.

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Speaker 2: I think they have one time Yeah, they have one

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Speaker 2: time out left and Dallas. I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: exactly where they are. Are they in field goal range?

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Speaker 2: But they just threw a deep ball. Now fortunately Dak

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Speaker 2: threw the ball out of bounds. They are really probably

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Speaker 2: in field goal range the fringes of field goal range

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Speaker 2: right now. But you know this is this is the

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Speaker 2: problem is you throw it on third down. Now you

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Speaker 2: got to throw it on fourth and we're not doing

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Speaker 2: play by play for the record.

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Speaker 1: Well, but I mean, but if you kick a field

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Speaker 1: goal here, it's still one possession game. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to me. It's like you need to make

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Speaker 1: them use their time outs. You don't want to hand

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Speaker 1: that offense to football with enough time and you know,

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Speaker 1: to beat you, or at the very least, that's a

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Speaker 1: really weird that was That was a weird decision like

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Speaker 1: that one baffled me. I know we're doing We're sitting

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Speaker 1: here trying to host a live show. But when I

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Speaker 1: saw him air that ball out, you know, trying to

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Speaker 1: throw it out of the end zones, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I'm doing that. That didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Aymar, I'm not kidding when I says I thought it

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Speaker 2: was a replay. I thought it was like a replay

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Speaker 2: from the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: I looked up.

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Speaker 2: By the way the kicker is on the sidelines, it

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Speaker 2: appears as though Dallas is going to go for it

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Speaker 2: on fourth down. After this play, we'll reset it one

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Speaker 2: way or the other, obviously against Dallas is up seventeen thirteen,

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Speaker 2: under two minutes to go, it's fourth and six to try.

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Speaker 3: Is out of time out there.

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Speaker 1: You're just trying them off.

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Speaker 2: If Dallas does get the first down here, the game

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Speaker 2: would be over. But to Jay Mart's point, it looks

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Speaker 2: almost certainly and they were just trying to draw them

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Speaker 2: off sides. Dallas themselves will use the timeout and they'll

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Speaker 2: try out the field goal kicker. But to set the scene, Jason,

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Speaker 2: so again we're under two minutes. It's second and fourteen,

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Speaker 2: Detroit has one time out left, and you're up four points. Jason,

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Speaker 2: to your point, you kick a field goal, you go

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Speaker 2: up seven. Detroit, in theory, could drive the length of

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Speaker 2: the field, tie the game, or potentially win the game.

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Speaker 2: You throw it deep on third down or second down.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, it's an incomplete pass. Then you throw it

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Speaker 2: on third down, which leads to a completion, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: get the first down, and Detroit uses its final timeout.

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Speaker 2: So if you just run the ball on second down,

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Speaker 2: another forty seconds comes out, you know, comes off this clock.

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Speaker 1: Jason.

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Speaker 3: It was just listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Mike McCarthy's ever gonna be confused for

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick as far as a you know, an in

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Speaker 2: game tactician. But that was just very strange here as

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Speaker 2: Dallas does convert the field goal with this, where did

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Speaker 2: this kicker come from?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 1: He came for the USFL. In two years of USFL.

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Speaker 1: He played soccer at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: He's now thirty five of thirty five this season. He

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Speaker 1: just knocks fifty yarders through like it's nothing. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of incredible. Actually, yeah, he's a real weapon for.

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Speaker 3: Them, he is.

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Speaker 2: So he kicks it through. Dallas is now up seven

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Speaker 2: under two minutes to go. Again, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: relitigate this and go play by play. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: Detroit does as they get the ball back. But again,

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Speaker 2: Dallas throws it deep on second down. It allows Detroit

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Speaker 2: to use its final timeout on third down, which again

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Speaker 2: means that about forty extra seconds are on the clock.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if there's any real social media

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Speaker 2: reaction to it, because it felt very weird to me.

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Speaker 2: But back to the initial point, Jason is Detroit. You know, listen,

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Speaker 2: they're still fighting for seeding, trying to win this game.

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Speaker 2: They were eleven to four coming in there, the NFC

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Speaker 2: North Champs, and it's been a really fun back and

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Speaker 2: forth game. Detroit has been running the ball very successfully. Really,

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Speaker 2: most of their passing yards came out a big play

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Speaker 2: to Jamison Williams in the third quarter, and then it's

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Speaker 2: the opposite for Dallas. You know, Ceedee, Lamb and Dak

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Speaker 2: have been cooking all night. Thirteen catches, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty seven yards for ceed Lamb, including a touchdown Jason.

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Speaker 2: So the only point I'm trying to make is sometimes

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Speaker 2: just because you get two good teams late in the season,

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Speaker 2: you know, somebody could be resting starter, somebody could be

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Speaker 2: this This has just been a fun back and forteen

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Speaker 2: between two very good teams which obviously could very well

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Speaker 2: meet up in the postseason coming up in the next

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Speaker 2: few weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been hard faught, it really has. And

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Speaker 1: you look at I mean, dak had somewhere around two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards at halftime, but they had seven points. So

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of ben but not break. But

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Speaker 1: everybody was playing well. Now Golf is starting to have

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Speaker 1: some He's had two plus interceptions two or more interceptions

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Speaker 1: in three of his last seven games. I think he's

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Speaker 1: been doing a lot of this in the fourth quarter well,

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Speaker 1: which we just saw a couple of minutes a couple

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Speaker 1: of game minutes ago. But he's still got an opportunity here.

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Speaker 1: And this is just again, this has the feel of

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. It has a feel of a game

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Speaker 1: with stakes, a game where everybody is coming after it

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Speaker 1: as much as possible, and that's what you want to

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Speaker 1: see because both these two teams we're going to be

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Speaker 1: watching for the next probably month or so least.

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Speaker 3: We certainly hope.

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Speaker 2: So as in two plays, Detroit is now across midfield.

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Speaker 2: We're closing in on about the one minute mark here,

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Speaker 2: Detroit again trailing twenty to thirteen. Dallas again elected on

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Speaker 2: second down to throw the ball deep. It allowed Detroit

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Speaker 2: to use its final time out on the subsequent play.

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Speaker 2: Dallas could have easily had another you know, thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: five to forty seconds off the clock right now. Instead,

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Speaker 2: Detroit has cross midfield with two plays to go. Bigger

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Speaker 2: picture obviously, Dallas. You know it's tough, right because you

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Speaker 2: know Miami they easily could have won last week. I mean,

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Speaker 2: does is this the way that they're playing, the way

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Speaker 2: that the offense is clicking, and you know, it's not

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Speaker 2: really a must win game, but it's sort of a

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as as again Detroit has crossed midfield,

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Speaker 2: does this give you a little bit more confidence that,

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Speaker 2: especially that Buffalo game two weeks ago was kind of

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Speaker 2: a one off that isn't reflective of who this team is.

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem with the problem with going too far

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Speaker 1: with what they've done tonight is they're at home, and

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Speaker 1: they do this at home. When they go on the road,

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Speaker 1: that's when they generally struggle. They haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: beat anybody on the road pretty much all season long.

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Speaker 1: This one was one that they needed though, no question

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Speaker 1: about that. It reminds you what they are capable of.

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Speaker 1: But they're going to have to go on the road

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Speaker 1: and win a game, if not multiple games, in order

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Speaker 1: to you know, get to the conference championship game, find

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Speaker 1: their way to a super Bowl. So it doesn't answer

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Speaker 1: that question. It does show that this is a good

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Speaker 1: football team that can beat another very good football team,

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Speaker 1: at least we think so, even though the game isn't

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Speaker 1: over yet.

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Speaker 3: The game is not over yet.

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Speaker 2: We are under a minute to go, Detroit up Detroit,

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Speaker 2: trailing twenty to thirteen, about forty eight seconds left. As

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Speaker 2: as Detroit is driving trying to get in in trying

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Speaker 2: to get into the end zone. Frankly, tell you what, Jason,

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Speaker 2: why don't we do this. We'll come back, We'll take

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Speaker 2: a quick break, we'll come back, and we will react.

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Speaker 2: This game is coming down to the final seconds. Torres

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Rasorus Jason Martin broadcasting live Fromthtireraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Jason, we might be on air until eleven Pacific,

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Speaker 1: Since we went trying to figure out what just happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when we went to break, Dallas is up

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Speaker 2: Dallas is up twenty to thirteen, Detroit has cross midfield.

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Speaker 2: a statement, Well, this is what happened. After Detroit scored

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Speaker 2: Just one problem, a legal touching was called, and basically,

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Speaker 2: Jason and correct me if I'm wrong, because I really

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Speaker 2: we couldn't really hear much in this studio. I believe

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Speaker 3: They have just taken a knee. Final score twenty to nineteen.

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Speaker 2: After three different two point conversion attempts from the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: It was bonkers. I like going for the first time around.

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Speaker 1: That made all the sense in the world. Don't leave

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Speaker 2: Based on Dan Campbell's reaction and based on the player's reaction.

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Speaker 2: I have so many reactions, but I think that's the

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Speaker 2: But that's one where you gotta let the emotions cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, basically, Mike McCarthy escaped because whatever he

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Speaker 2: So basically they're sitting at eleven and five after this loss.

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Speaker 1: Jason, So I was looking at I was just trying

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Speaker 1: It was Decker that caught the ball.

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Speaker 2: hear what the operation was. Looks like Dan Skipper is

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Speaker 2: saying I didn't say a word, so I wonder if

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Speaker 2: Decker reported secretly, but they assumed it was Skipper because

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Speaker 2: they're both tall. I don't get it. The point that

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Speaker 2: Jason and I are trying to make. We are trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out exactly what the penalty was on the

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Speaker 2: first of three two point conversion attempts, but none of

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Speaker 2: them are good because the first two were called penalties.

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Speaker 3: The third one was no good. Dan Campbell was mad.

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Speaker 2: Dan Skipper, an offensive lineman for the Detroit Lions, was mad.

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Speaker 2: And we are going to be waiting with baited breath

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Speaker 2: for some sound out of Dan Campbell and the Lions

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Speaker 2: side of things, because we are very curious.

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Speaker 3: Tell you what, Jason will continue this conversation.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back because there is a lot to peel

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Speaker 2: back here, but for the first time this evening, we

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Speaker 2: will toss it over the news desk.

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Speaker 3: Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 2: I mean, i'd ask you what's trending, but of trending

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Speaker 2: out of Detroit right now, that's what's trending.

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Speaker 7: Without a doubt. Detroit had two linemen go over to

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Speaker 7: referee Brad Allen and report I saw it.

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Speaker 1: I literally just saw. They showed a very still shot

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Speaker 1: of those two guys standing right in front of Brad

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Speaker 1: Allen's trying to run away from them.

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Speaker 7: They're saying the one lineman counts as eligible, but the

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Speaker 7: left tackle who winds up catching the two point pass

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Speaker 7: was ruled as ineligible. He was uncovered too, if that

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Speaker 7: means that anything at the snap. So Dallas twenty Detroit

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Speaker 7: nineteen is the final. Keep in mind the context Detroit

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Speaker 7: has already clinched its division, Dallas has already clinched a

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Speaker 7: playoff spot. Detroit's record falls to eleven and five Dallas

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Speaker 7: now eleven and five and eight and zero. At home

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Speaker 7: this season, Ceede Lamb had a ninety two yard touchdown,

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Speaker 7: catching it at midfield, running the rest of the way

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Speaker 7: late first quarter. In fact, Dak Prescott two touchdown passes

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Speaker 7: one interception. Lamb later remember he had that fumble through

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Speaker 7: the end zone for a turnover. That was almost very

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Speaker 7: costly because if they don't stop the two point and

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Speaker 7: inversion at the end, the Cowboys lose by one, and

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Speaker 7: everybody's talking about that turnover and that rule probably, but

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Speaker 7: ceedee Lamb finished with thirteen catches two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 7: seven yards in victory. Just absolute craziness. And let's go

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Speaker 7: back to just before the two minute warning when Jared

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Speaker 7: Groffed threw the interception. He had one touchdown, two interceptions

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Speaker 7: in this game. We thought, oh, maybe that's it. Detroit's

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Speaker 7: down by a touchdown. But the Cowboys on their first

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Speaker 7: play of the drive with about two minutes to go,

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Speaker 7: fifteen yard penalty here, they were already in field goal range.

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Speaker 7: Chance for the clinching touchdown on this last drive under

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Speaker 7: thirty yards and in and a fifteen yard penalty to

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Speaker 7: start the drive with two minutes to go, and the

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Speaker 7: real head scratcher, and you brought it up properly, the

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Speaker 7: incomplete pass thrown with just under two minutes left.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing.

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Speaker 2: Bathing under two minute warning and Detroit has one time

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Speaker 2: out left on second? Now do you decide to throw?

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Speaker 2: Continue to say gra I'm sorry?

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Speaker 7: And Detroit winds up scoring with what twenty three seconds

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Speaker 7: to go? You would have run more than twenty three

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Speaker 7: seconds off the clock if you had not thrown the

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Speaker 7: interception with under two minutes left, the Cowboys is escape

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Speaker 7: with a one point victory. And let's not forget on

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Speaker 7: the two point conversion. It's not just they threw to

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Speaker 7: the left tackle and Detroit seemed to win, but no,

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Speaker 7: apparently he didn't report legally, and so they had to

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Speaker 7: back it up five yards. After they backed it up

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Speaker 7: five yards, Micah Parsons was off side for Dallas, which

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Speaker 7: wasn't five yards back to the two yard line, it's

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Speaker 7: half the distance to the goal. So the next down,

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Speaker 7: the two point try for Detroit was not snapped from

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Speaker 7: the two from the three and a half. How much

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Speaker 7: did they miss the two point conversion by a yard?

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Speaker 7: Even if he'd caught it, he would have been a

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Speaker 7: yard short and they would have missed that. So you

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Speaker 7: talk about Dan Campbell was just stuck on we're not

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Speaker 7: going overtime, win or lose right here. Multiple chances to say,

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Speaker 7: you know what, let's just kick the thing. We've been

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Speaker 7: the better team for quite a while here, let's go

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Speaker 7: to overtime. He did not, and Detroit loses twenty to nineteen.

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Speaker 7: College football, not quite a close game at the Orange

517
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Speaker 7: Bowl if you saw it today. Georgia led at the

518
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Speaker 7: half against Florida State forty two to three, Georgia sixty

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Speaker 7: three to three. The Final Bowl wins for Ole Miss, Maryland,

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Speaker 7: and Wyoming. The Atlanta Braves acquired lefty pitcher Chris Sale

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Speaker 7: and cash from Boston to the NBA. Minnesota won again

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Speaker 7: beat the Lakers one eight, one oh six. A little

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Speaker 7: controversy at the end here as Lebron James, who had

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Speaker 7: twenty six points, hit a late basket that would have

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Speaker 7: tied it. After review, it was ruled a two pointer.

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Speaker 7: There was one video that showed his foot behind the line.

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Speaker 7: As Lebron said in the locker room afterwards, If we

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Speaker 7: had video review and then grew it up, why do

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Speaker 7: we have d video review. Detroit ended a twenty eight

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Speaker 7: game losing streak. The Pistons, yes, actually won a game

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Speaker 7: tonight one twenty nine, one twenty seven against Toronto. And

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Speaker 7: in college hoops number seven Florida Atlantic Final fourteen a

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Speaker 7: year ago was beaten at Florida Gulf Coast seventy two

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Speaker 7: sixty eight. But nothing bigger than the game at Dallas

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Speaker 7: and those last two minute and it's tonight Cowboys twenty

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Speaker 7: to nineteen. It will go down in the books. In

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Speaker 7: pen as the final back to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Steve de Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Torres,

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Speaker 2: credit card limitations apply. Jason, let's stay on this game.

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Speaker 2: I'll try to be quick in setting it up. But

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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: again Dallas goes up twenty to nineteen. They kick a

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Speaker 2: field goal with under two minutes to go. By the way,

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Speaker 2: poor clock management from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Horrible horrible clock management from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Horrible clock management from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Again, second down, they throw it deep when Detroit has

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Speaker 2: just one time out. If they had just run it there,

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Speaker 2: they would have forced Detroit to use the final time out.

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Speaker 2: They would have obviously taken, however many seconds off the clock,

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Speaker 2: but it would have been quite significant. Bring it up,

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Speaker 2: because they kick a field goal. They go up twenty

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Speaker 2: to thirteen. Detroit drives the length of the field, scores

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Speaker 2: a touchdown with twenty three seconds left, they're down twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: They can kick the extra point. They decide to go

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Speaker 2: for two. The first attempt at going for two it

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Speaker 2: is called illegal touching, and again the reason being that reportedly,

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Speaker 2: we think right now, an offensive lineman was deemed to

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Speaker 2: be have not reported to the officials, so they call

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Speaker 2: it no good. Obviously, Dan Campbell is mad, the offensive

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Speaker 2: linemen are mad, and we're gonna hear from them momentarily.

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Speaker 2: But as de Seger just told you, as I just

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Speaker 2: saw on TV, as you just saw on TV, seems

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Speaker 2: very clear that they reported to the officials. That does

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Speaker 2: not go their way. Though bad call as it stands,

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Speaker 2: it looks like it was a bad call. Second two

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Speaker 2: point conversion attempt Micah Parsons jumps off sides half the

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Speaker 2: distance of the goal. Third two point conversion attempt is

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Speaker 2: no good.

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Speaker 1: Bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Dallas wins twenty to nineteen. Here's the question. Here's my question.

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Speaker 2: Couple things. So, first of all, Sharon tweets in does

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Speaker 2: the old saying the definition of insanity is doing the

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Speaker 2: same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

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Speaker 2: Apply to she said Denver. I think she means Detroit tonight.

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question. I'm also seeing

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Speaker 2: and listen, you know they're my.

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Speaker 3: Favorite people on the internet.

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Speaker 2: The analytics nerds are telling me that you got a

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty chance of winning on the road, or

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Speaker 2: you have a you know, less than a fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty chance of winning on the road in overtime? Point being,

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Speaker 2: is it justifiable for Dan Campbell to have continued, I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: is it justifiable? He's the coach, it's his decision. But

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Speaker 2: in your mind, because I know where I stand, but

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Speaker 2: I'll just.

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Speaker 3: Put it to you.

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Speaker 2: In your mind, do you belie believe that it was

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Speaker 2: the wrong decision to go for it onto after the

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Speaker 2: penalty the emotions are running high. You don't think you've

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Speaker 2: done anything wrong. You think you got screwed by the ref.

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Speaker 2: They go for it twice more and on the third

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Speaker 2: attempt it is no good.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't. I don't think it's all right.

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Speaker 1: I think that again. I used the phraseology. He was

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Speaker 1: on tilt. He was the poker player that got a

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Speaker 1: bad beat and then came in and went all in

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Speaker 1: before he even saw his hole cards on the next one.

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Speaker 1: Like that, That's that's something you can't do. Like you

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Speaker 1: have to be disciplined in that moment enough to recognize

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Speaker 1: the circumstance you're in. I think they got screwed. I

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Speaker 1: absolutely think they got screwed. Watching the Troy Aikman said

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Speaker 1: he thinks they got screwed.

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Speaker 2: The Lions got the Cowboys Jimmy Johnson Ring of Honor night,

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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman's admitting the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Troy Aikman is basically saying they got screwed. This

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Speaker 1: is the same Troy Aikman that every time he calls

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys game, people come out of the woodwork to

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Speaker 1: just crap all over the guy. And he's there saying

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I think you got screwed. But it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna change in that moment. So what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, you've got to do the smart thing

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Speaker 1: for your football team. I don't want to hear fifty

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Speaker 1: chance from the seven yard line. I'm sorry from where

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Speaker 1: you were the original two point conversion on the road

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Speaker 1: in that moment. Absolutely like that. I like the aggressiveness.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the stupidity when they back you up

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Speaker 1: five yards and then you get gifted an opportunity. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like the football deities were like, you sure, Clark,

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Speaker 1: you sure about this, Clark, Like, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to get this right. Here's Michael Parsons jumping

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Speaker 1: off sides, and he does, and you kick it. Then

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Speaker 1: you go for it again instead of kicking the extra point,

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Speaker 1: and that play never had a chance, and now you

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Speaker 1: lose the game again. The story's gonna be about what

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Speaker 1: happened the first time, and I think that it should be.

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Speaker 1: But you then have to do the adult thing afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes life just sucks, right, Sometimes things just don't go

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Speaker 1: your way. Sometimes it's unfair, but you still have to

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Speaker 1: react to what has taken place. You can't continue to

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Speaker 1: cry Florida.

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Speaker 3: State about Think of that, Just think of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I agree with everything. I do want

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Speaker 2: to I'll tell you what, Jason, Well, come back, we'll

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Speaker 2: continue this conversation. I want to talk about the referee

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Speaker 2: side of things, because again we now have pretty conclusive

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Speaker 2: video confirmation that Detroit did report its offensive linemen to

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Speaker 2: the referees, and frankly, as you said, or disagreed. I

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Speaker 2: forget who, but it looks like the referee is almost

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Speaker 2: running away mid sentence and it cost the Lions a win.

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Speaker 2: It cost the Lions a win, point blank, end of story.

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Speaker 2: We are efforting sound from Dan Campbell. We are efforting

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Speaker 2: sound from the Detroit Lions side of things. They kind

650
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Speaker 2: of got screwed. They did get screwed out of a

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Speaker 2: win in Dallas. The counter to that is, as Jason

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Speaker 2: and I just said, they had a chance to force

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Speaker 2: overtime after it decided not to. Gonna come back in

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Speaker 2: a discuss the Dallas side of things, and of course

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Speaker 2: on top of that, we will be discussing the referees

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Speaker 2: and what, you know, what to make of what they did.

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Speaker 2: That's all next. Erin Torris, Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Eron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios.

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Speaker 3: And there's no other way to put it.

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Speaker 2: Major controversy at the end of the Dallas Detroit game

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Speaker 2: here on Saturday night. Dallas wins twenty to nineteen. But

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to set it up to Seger,

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Speaker 2: I do want you to put on the headphones and

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Speaker 2: join us here, because trying to explain this is it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a foreign language. But I'll set it up

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Speaker 2: and then we'll go from there. So Dallas is up

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Speaker 2: twenty to nineteen. Detroit can kicked the extra point whatever,

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Speaker 2: they decide to go for two. The first play they

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Speaker 2: go for they attempt to go for two, A pass

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Speaker 2: is completed to the left tackle to the left tackle,

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Speaker 2: number sixty eight Decker. Okay, why I bring it up?

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Speaker 2: So we have video right now. Three different offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: report to the official.

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Speaker 7: Well, walk to the official. Well, they don't all treed

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Speaker 7: necessarily talk to the official, but clearly sixty eight Decker,

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Speaker 7: who knows he's going to be receiving the pass shortly,

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Speaker 7: is the one who's got to communicate saying, Hey, I'm eligible,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna line up a tackle, but I'm an eligible receiver.

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Speaker 7: I am reporting yes. Instead, seventy comes off the bench,

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Speaker 7: another Detroit lineman kind of running interference because if only

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Speaker 7: Decker number sixty eight, raises his hand and says, hey,

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Speaker 7: I'm eligible. That tips off the defense. Uh oh, they're

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Speaker 7: going to probably run a trick. This guy who's normally

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Speaker 7: just a blocking tackle is going to be out in

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Speaker 7: a pattern in the end to catch, and so seventy

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Speaker 7: comes over as well. Detroit's plan, according to NFL Network,

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Speaker 7: was to have both linemen there in front of the ref,

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Speaker 7: only one audibly reporting to him and that way maybe

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Speaker 7: confuse the defense. Well, it confused the referee apparently, because

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Speaker 7: ref Brad Allen said seventy is eligible when the play

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Speaker 7: was actually for sixty eight. So when he caught the

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Speaker 7: two point pass ruled illegal touching. He's not eligible as

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Speaker 7: a receiver to receive a pass, and that five yard

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Speaker 7: penalty was enforced.

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Speaker 1: So I was watching. I was watching ESPN during the

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Speaker 1: break because they had John Perry on their rules Expert,

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Speaker 1: former official expert and everything else, and I think Van

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Speaker 1: Pel's doing a real nice job kind of peppering him

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Speaker 1: with questions and asked him about what was going on.

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Speaker 1: So they showed the footage several times and what you

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Speaker 1: just said, Stee's right, Like skipper comes running onto the

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Speaker 1: field and Brad Allen, the head official, is staring at him,

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Speaker 1: and Perry's argument is he never made eye contact with.

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Speaker 7: Six, the actual rev tech.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, never made eye contact, even though Decker was

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Speaker 1: there saying I am reporting. And so then Brad Allen

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Speaker 1: immediately runs to go tell the Cowboys defense what's going on,

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Speaker 1: which you then clearly see them communicating to each other. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Seventy's gonna be eligible, blah blah blah. He never saw it.

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Speaker 1: He took off so fast to tell the he missed

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Speaker 1: Taylor Decker doing what he was doing. And then Perry said,

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Speaker 1: that's Decker's fault. He has to make sure the referee knows.

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Speaker 1: It's like, really if he runs away from me and

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Speaker 1: I just said I'm eligible, and he acknowledged, okay, because

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Speaker 1: seventy was there as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and seventy says I never said anything. I walked

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Speaker 7: over there on purpose to confuse the defense. We would

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Speaker 7: have two linemen over talking to the ref theoretically, but

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Speaker 7: I didn't open my mouth.

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Speaker 1: And Dan Campbell also said something baffling in his prescott.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he was not happy, not like that

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Speaker 1: should be a surprise.

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Speaker 7: He was ready to walk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was very much ready to walk,

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Speaker 1: said he hates losing. But he also said, apparently I

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Speaker 1: was told only not more than one person can report

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Speaker 1: as eligible. The two can't report is eligible on the field,

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Speaker 1: and all this guess what, that's not true, like they

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Speaker 1: with John Perry said point play, no two players can report.

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Speaker 1: That's not the issue here at all. And then they

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Speaker 1: went through the entire replay deal. So this just in canvas.

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Speaker 7: What's the explanation, and the Lions coach is the explanation

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Speaker 7: was seventy was eligible, not sixty eight who caught the pass,

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Speaker 7: which is why it was ruled a five yard penalty

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Speaker 7: and it negated what would have been the winning two

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Speaker 7: point conversion for Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you as a question. I've said this

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Speaker 3: for years.

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Speaker 2: If we are going to make coaches and players go

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Speaker 2: to the podium.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah after a game.

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Speaker 1: You better believe Brad Allen should be up there right

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Speaker 1: now talking.

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Speaker 3: That's my question.

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Speaker 1: If DA I knew that, I knew that I could

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Speaker 1: cut you off on that one. I know exactly where

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Speaker 1: you're going. And absolutely they should have to answer a

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Speaker 1: question after a call like that.

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Speaker 7: There is, by the way, for those who have covered

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Speaker 7: football such a thing as a pool reporter where he

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Speaker 7: does speak to the referee, but then the transcript comes

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Speaker 7: out of that. It's not like the coaches were a

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Speaker 7: live press conference. And by the way, you've mentioned the

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Speaker 7: other lineman. Skipper said he did not report as eligible.

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Speaker 7: He did not open his mouth, did not say a word,

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Speaker 7: and speaking to the media afterwards is not much he

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Speaker 7: can say to you right now without getting fined. He

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Speaker 7: was announced as eligible, he said he didn't actually speak

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Speaker 7: to the referee when he went over to Brad Allen.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like reading hieroglyphics right now, you know,

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Speaker 2: because we know what the rule is, we know what

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's version of events is, we know what the

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Speaker 2: referees version of events is, and it's just like.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is baffling for people who are just joining us.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys win twenty to nineteen. A very controversial two point

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Speaker 2: conversion to Segur go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Because of analytics involved, and too many people throw that

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Speaker 7: out without actually knowing what they're talking about. You brought

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Speaker 7: this up earlier, Aaron, that Dan Campbell going for two

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Speaker 7: they line up at the two yard line for a

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Speaker 7: two point conversion was according to the NFL's own next

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Speaker 7: gen stats, the optimal call, that was the good decision.

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Speaker 7: Once you get the did not report penalty and you're

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Speaker 7: still going for two from the seven yard line, that

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Speaker 7: is not what analytics s.

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Speaker 2: That's ego. That's what we've talked about. And so it

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Speaker 2: comes down to the third two point conversion. First one

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Speaker 2: is this controversial reporting not reporting all that. Second one,

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Speaker 2: after they've been pushed back five yards, Micah Parsons jumps

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Speaker 2: off sides, and it was the third two point conversion.

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Speaker 2: I remember at any point Detroit's trailing by one. Any

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Speaker 2: of these three times, Detroit and Dan Campbell can just

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Speaker 2: kick the extra point, regroup, take a deep breath, go

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Speaker 2: to overtime. But as we've discussed Jason here over the

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Speaker 2: last you know, forty five minutes since this game went final,

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's ego, you know, he was running hot.

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Speaker 3: You could s well he's still mad about.

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Speaker 2: It, and uh and you know, I I it was

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Speaker 2: a bad call, but the ego certainly got in the wages.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it did. And he was asked after

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Speaker 1: the game, did you know moving back to the seven

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Speaker 1: that change your thought? Well, he had already said he

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Speaker 1: told the team before that possession started. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: down score and then we're gonna go for two and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win the game. And he said, so the

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Speaker 1: seven didn't change you, Nope, said we were gonna go

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Speaker 1: win the game. That's what we were trying to do.

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Speaker 1: And that's all he would say. I'm just in my head,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, that's good, coach, that's real aggressive,

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Speaker 1: and I loved it the first time. But then it

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Speaker 1: kind of got dumb and you even had a chance

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Speaker 1: to fix it a third time and you still didn't

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Speaker 1: get it right. Yeah. The officials made of complete sites.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Jason, I'm gonna do my best in a

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Speaker 2: succinct and entertaining way to reset this insane ending of

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Speaker 2: the cowboys and lines.

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Speaker 1: Well, we need the curb your enthusiasm music underneath this

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Speaker 1: inscription you're about to lay out.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you at one if we got any if

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Speaker 2: we got any circus music, Lorena, that would be great.

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Speaker 2: We do have some very angry Dan Campbell sound that

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Speaker 2: we'll get to momentarily, but I will try to set

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Speaker 2: this up as best as I can it really actually technically,

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Speaker 2: Jason starts on the preceding drive. Dallas is up seventeen

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Speaker 2: to thirteen under the two minute warning, Detroit has one

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Speaker 2: time out. They throw it deep on second down for

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Speaker 2: no real obvious reason. It allows Detroit. Yes, this is perfect, Lorena.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you're the best. Pat You're great too, Disager,

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Speaker 2: you're the man because you're keeping me straight through all this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so now now I'm in my own head. But okay,

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Speaker 2: So Dallas decides to throw the ball on second down.

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Speaker 2: And now the music's too good. We might have to

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Speaker 2: cut the music because my brain is mush right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to the music momentarily, but all right,

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Speaker 2: So Dallas decides to throw the ball deep on second

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Speaker 2: down when Detroit only has one time out at that point,

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Speaker 2: there's under two minutes to go, and basically, LORENDI, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to cut this music.

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Speaker 1: Bet you got to be able to talk over this.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect.

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Speaker 2: When j Martin starts speaking again, you can put the

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Speaker 2: music back on. But okay, so h Dallas, for no

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Speaker 2: real reason, throws it deep. There is a timeout. They

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Speaker 2: don't have to burn it. It saves forty seconds for Detroit.

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00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: Dallas kicks the field goal to go up twenty to

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Speaker 2: thirteen at that point under two minutes to go, but

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Speaker 2: again there's about forty seconds that could have gone off

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Speaker 2: the clock of Dallas to just use the timeout bring

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 3: Detroit drives the lake of the field.

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Speaker 2: They score a touchdown to cut it to twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: with twenty three seconds to go. They can kick the

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Speaker 2: extra point to force overtime, but instead decide to go

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Speaker 2: for two. On the first attempt to go for two,

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Speaker 2: there is a pass completed to a offensive lineman that

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Speaker 2: is good would give Detroit twenty one. The two point

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Speaker 2: conversion take the twenty one to twenty lead with twenty

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Speaker 2: three seconds left and essentially ice the game, the refs

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Speaker 2: throw a flag for illegal touching, basically saying that the

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman did not report to the refs. As best

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Speaker 2: I understand it, and this is the fourth time I've

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00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: repeated it, but essentially, before the play, both the receiver

870
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: who actually caught the ball, Decker, and a separate offensive

871
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: lineman both went up to the refs as a pseudo

872
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: decoy to you know, as Desager said last hour, you

873
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: don't want to you don't want to just go up

874
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: and raise your hands and say, hey, guess who's eligible

875
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: me and then obviously they're gonna throw the ball to you.

876
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: So before the ref even C sixty eight, he starts

877
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: running to the defense. So basically, the play was so

878
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: good at not only fooled Dallas, but it fooled the

879
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: referees as well. That is essentially how I understand it.

880
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: Really quick, before we react, Loraina, I will admit for

881
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: the audience the sound is not great. But here is

882
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell trying his best to explain what he believed happened.

883
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 8: That the explanation he got up to two point certainly

884
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 8: reported to did that report as well? Yeah, the explanation

885
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 8: was Saturday reported. Did that crver sport, Yes.

886
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: And he couldnounce that.

887
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 9: Players two people can't report. I don't want to talk

888
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 9: about it, right. I explained everything pre game to the

889
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 9: te Okay, I did that seventy reporting, fifty eight didn't

890
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 9: or sixty eight didn't we the red sixty eight. That

891
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 9: was the explanation.

892
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: That was Dan Campbell. After the game. Credit to Ian

893
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: and the back doing a great job getting us that sound.

894
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: Thank you Lorrain and Pat for getting it to us

895
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: on air here. So, Jason, I mean, Dan Campbell just

896
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: kind of explained it the way that I did. He

897
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: says that the refs told him that seventy, who is

898
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: not the player who caught the ball, was the player

899
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: who reported the player sixty eight Taylor Decker, who did

900
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: make the catch, he says the refs have said, did

901
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: not report. Dan Campbell says that Taylor Decker actually reported,

902
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: and I will say that number seventy Dan Skipper, and

903
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: I hope this isn't confusing. I'm sure that it is

904
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: for the audience. We're doing our best to give you

905
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: the context in real time. But Jason, I think you know,

906
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm almost a lawyer here putting the

907
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: pieces together of a case. And if you remember back

908
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: to when it happened, Dan Skipper number seventy is screaming

909
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: at the refs in real time. I wasn't doing I

910
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything.

911
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: And so that is the explanation that we have two

912
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: offensive linemen go up to the referee before number sixty

913
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: eight Taylor Decker officially is able to report. The referee

914
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: starts running the other direction to tell them about number seventy,

915
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: And that is where Dan Campbell's frustration is in because

916
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell just said it. He says that the refs

917
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: told him that seventy reported and that sixty eight didn't.

918
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell says, I spoke with the refs before the

919
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: game and explained everything, and Detroit understandably if this is

920
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: how it all went down, and based on the video

921
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: that we have, it looks like it is. Detroit is

922
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: very frustrated. Jason, We're eight minutes into the segment. You

923
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: haven't said a word. I apologize.

924
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: Oh, it's all good. Like that's the that's the most

925
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: amazing part is so Dan Campbell meets with the officials pregame,

926
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: make sure everybody understands, hey, this is something where we

927
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: may be calling this is how this is gonna work,

928
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: so that everybody's on the same patient. They say they

929
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: set up everything properly and they still screw it up,

930
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can imagine Dan Campbell is probably not

931
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: happy about that, because that's ah he doesn't like to lose,

932
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: and he made that point repeatedly in the very brief

933
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: comments that he made in the press conference. But if

934
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: you actually go out of your way to have the

935
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: pregame meeting, do everything right to let them know, hey,

936
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: if this happens, this is what we are doing in

937
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: this moment. That's kind of incredible that you still find

938
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: a way, if you're the officials, to get that incorrect.

939
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: And just I think the biggest thing here is it

940
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: was a great game and now it's this great big

941
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: talking now, but not for the right reasons. Not in

942
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, this this this is not

943
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: how this isn't how this is supposed to go. The

944
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: problem is it's not reviewable and it kind of can't

945
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: be because if Brad Allen the official, messes up in

946
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: that moment as he does and he thinks it's seventy,

947
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: that's reporting as eligible, and he communicates that to the defense.

948
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: Then if they're not looking for sixty eight, that's a problem,

949
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: and that's an advantage creative for the offense in that moment.

950
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: And if you actually watch, and this is what I

951
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: think is interesting about it, if you go and you

952
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: watch the play, it appears like Dallas is following sixty eight.

953
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: He's not standing there wide open like you have seen

954
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: on some of those plays in the past. He makes

955
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: the play, but then it looks like in the end zone,

956
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: the guys who were supposed to be covering and stopping

957
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: to play, they look like they they screwed up, like

958
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: they got beat. And you see them on the sidelines

959
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: and you see Ceedee Lamb and you see Dak and

960
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: they're baffled, and then the official makes the call and

961
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: then we go through the rigamarole that you just described

962
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: for five or six minutes. It's just a that's a

963
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: crap ending, Like that's just that's a bad finish to

964
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: a title match right there. That's just that's not what

965
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: you sign up for. That's not that's just very unsatisfying,

966
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: as great as it is in terms of content.

967
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Jason, you know what's crazy.

968
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: So I'm now looking at a separate camera angle because

969
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: there was a third offensive lineman there.

970
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was. He was just kind of standing there.

971
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: It's almost like he was screening something.

972
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, this is like an episode

973
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: of Law and Order, Like I really do.

974
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: It's like we.

975
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: Found a new camera angle. What does it mean, Jason,

976
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you. Ari Myvra Love at my

977
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: Sports Update just shared this camera angle. How about this

978
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker, number seventy by the time, No.

979
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: That's skipper sixty eight. Is Decker. He's the one that

980
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: made the play.

981
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, go find this video because Decker who who the

982
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: referees told Dan Campbell that Decker was the or excuse me,

983
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: that skipper number seventy was the player who reported. That

984
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: was what Dan Campbell just told us in that press conference.

985
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: They said he is the one that reported. If you

986
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: see this video, by the time number seventy Decker gets

987
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: to the quote unquote meeting with the referees, the referee

988
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: is already running the other direction. I can't express this enough.

989
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker the player that the referees are telling Dan

990
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: Campbell reported to him. He's not even in the picture

991
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: until the referee is running the other direction, so there

992
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: is no way that based on and by the way,

993
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: this is also why I actually think it's important that

994
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: the referees do come to the podium because maybe there

995
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: is a logical explanation.

996
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: We're only getting.

997
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's version of the events. But I bring it

998
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: up because the Dan Campbell told us that the referee

999
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: said that number seventy reported number seventy. By the time

1000
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: he gets to the referee, the refere is already running

1001
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: to the defense. There is no way to describe this, Jason,

1002
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: other than that the referees totally screwed this up and

1003
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: totally screwed the Lions out of win. I'll tell you what, Pat,

1004
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: do we have that other sound of Dan Campbell because

1005
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: he was very frustrated. I haven't even heard this yet,

1006
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: but it sounds as though he wasn't very happy with

1007
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: with a question from a reporter.

1008
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Is the frustration you face.

1009
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 10: Comes from?

1010
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 9: What would you be Would you be frustrated right now?

1011
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: I mean, is it on the call?

1012
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Is it on the execution?

1013
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 11: Dave?

1014
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: And that's what happened.

1015
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 9: We lost and that bothers me, you know, it bothers me.

1016
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: I don't like having an l.

1017
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 9: So that's the frustration. I'm sorry, I'm made it at you.

1018
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: Well, and that that was the quote that you said, Jason,

1019
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: I don't like losing.

1020
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: That was the question. That was the question that wanted

1021
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: that that needed that response for whatever needs to be written,

1022
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: because the question was was not one that needed an

1023
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: answer because you already knew the answer. The question that

1024
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: the reporter asked was could you explain a little bit

1025
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: about the frustration on your face? And you know he's frustrated.

1026
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: You saw it on the field, we saw how the

1027
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: game ended. And then you're like, well, was it because

1028
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: of the two point call? Was it because of this?

1029
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: Was it because of this? You're needing him in that

1030
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: moment to get a reaction in that spot, Like what

1031
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell said is right? That official And look, I'm

1032
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: not saying reporter's not doing his job. I'm just saying,

1033
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: and I think that Campbell makes it clear, say hey,

1034
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going after you. He's frustrated in the moment,

1035
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: and that question just is just the kind of thing

1036
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: that will ignite you, like what do you mean, what

1037
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: do you mean my face is frustrated? My whole body

1038
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: is frustrated right now.

1039
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: Now, you know, and I think it goes without saying.

1040
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: If it doesn't, I hope everybody understands. I understand where

1041
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: he's coming from it. And I actually I had not.

1042
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 3: Heard that audio.

1043
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: Thank you again to eat in the back, Lorena and

1044
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: Pat for all your guys' help tonight.

1045
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: This is you know, real time. We're reacting to all.

1046
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: This is that.

1047
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

1048
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: You know sometimes listen, we're you and I have been

1049
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: in the media for a long time. There's a lot

1050
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: of times in press conferences where I think a coach

1051
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: is unjustifiably tough with a media member. I think Dan Campbell,

1052
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: it's just raw emotion. There is no other way to

1053
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: put it for people. And we know this is an

1054
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: audio medium. We're doing our best to set a scene

1055
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: and paint a picture. The Detroit Lions got screwed out

1056
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: out of a win tonight. There is no other way

1057
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: to put it other than that, Jason, Detroit loses twenty

1058
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: to nineteen. There is a two point conversion that is

1059
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: called back and called a penalty when it definitely wasn't Jason.

1060
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: We got to continue this conversation, uh, because there.

1061
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: There are open up the phone lines while we're at it.

1062
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what. Jason Heerro is so good

1063
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: with that reminded me to open up the phone line.

1064
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Let's do that, Pat, make sure the phone lines are open.

1065
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: One eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight

1066
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine, six six, three six nine. We

1067
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: want your reaction to this cowboy Lions ending. I don't

1068
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: think there is any way to describe it based on

1069
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: the information that we have right now, other than to

1070
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: say that the Detroit Lions were robbed of a victory

1071
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: in Dallas.

1072
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: Dallas wins twenty nineteen.

1073
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: Again, if you want to get in one eight seven

1074
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven seven nine

1075
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: nine six six three six nine, should mention, by the way,

1076
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: boy great, great, you know first game of the the

1077
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: or I guess it's the second game of week seventeen

1078
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: of the NFL.

1079
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: And here's the good news. Football fans.

1080
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 2: Make sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday

1081
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: morning beginning at ten am Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown

1082
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00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: have plenty to say when we come back. Will maybe

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Speaker 2: take your calls. We'll certainly read your tweets. Dallas wins

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00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: twenty to nineteen, but it wasn't without controversy. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: keep this conversation going. That's next.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio erratorres Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: tuning in to say that we had a controversial ending

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00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: in Dallas Detroit tonight is an understatement. I will be

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00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: quick because I've explained it a million times already. But

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00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: essentially Detroit was trailing twenty to thirteen. They drive the

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00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: length of the field, they score a touchdown with twenty

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00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: three seconds to go, they line up for a two

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00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: point conversion. In that moment, they complete a pass to

1105
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: an offensive line who is then deemed to be ineligible

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: because he did not report to the referees. We basically

1107
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 2: have both video confirmation, and Dan Campbell said as much

1108
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: that he definitely went up to the referees. The referees

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: before basically there was a cluster of offensive linemen at

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00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: with the referee before the proper player could report. The

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: referee left to tell the defense. The referee claim that

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: one player reported and not another. Dan Campbell as well

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00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: as now Taylor I'm blanking on his name here. Taylor,

1114
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker have now said that they did exactly what

1115
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: was said. Dan Campbell said before the game, he went

1116
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: over this with the refs. There's no way to put

1117
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: it other than that the that the Detroit Lions got

1118
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: screwed out of a win. Tell you what, Jason, the

1119
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: phone lines are humming. I want to take some of

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: America's calls on this.

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 3: Let's start.

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: Let's start the first call that I do want to

1123
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: take here on this topic, because this is a crazy, crazy,

1124
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: crazy story. Leonard in Minnesota, you're on with Aeron Taurus

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio, what did you make of

1126
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: this wild ending?

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00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 12: Hey, how you guys doing good?

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: Well?

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: You're you're in Minnesota, so you're probably a Vikings fan,

1130
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: so you're probably doing well.

1131
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: But but what are you making No?

1132
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 13: No, no, I'm from Detroit, Michigan. I just moved here

1133
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 13: for work, so I'm a diehard Lions fan. Oh and honestly, man,

1134
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 13: just going back prior to the games to make a

1135
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 13: quick just had on Twitter or ex whatever it's called now,

1136
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 13: just seeing the footage of the picked up flag from

1137
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 13: the non face garden call that was thrown back in

1138
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 13: twenty fifteen in the playoffs in Dallas and Stafford. You know,

1139
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 13: just leading up to the game, I just said, Okay,

1140
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 13: how are the rest going to find a way to

1141
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 13: you know, make this about the referees? And even watching

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 13: the entire football game while I was at work, it just,

1143
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 13: you know, a couple of non miss calls. Even on

1144
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 13: the ninety two yard touchdown, you can see a couple

1145
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 13: of Lions players were getting held when they should have

1146
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 13: been a holding call in the end zone. So, you know,

1147
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 13: like you said, work our way up down twenty to

1148
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 13: thirteen no time out, minted in half left get the touchdown.

1149
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 13: I told a buddy of mine, I said, Dan Campbell

1150
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 13: is going to go for two if before he's going

1151
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 13: to go for two. I felt it just watching Dan

1152
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 13: Campbell and for them to go for to get it

1153
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 13: and do everything today that they did correctly report eligible.

1154
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 13: And then what makes it the most frustrating for me

1155
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 13: is when you guys played on the air, the fact

1156
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 13: that Dan Campbell said he spoke to the officials pregame

1157
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 13: about the possibility of this happened. And I think that

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 13: to me, that's the most frustrating part. And twenty twenty

1159
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 13: visions Lions. We have the division locked up. We are

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Speaker 13: almost a lock for the third team, and to wrap

1161
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 13: it up quick so you can take more callers to me,

1162
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 13: the NFL setting up for if it all falls how

1163
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 13: it should fall, Detroit Lions versus the Los Angeles Rams

1164
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 13: in Detroit homecoming game for Matthew Stafford, Garret Cobb versus

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 13: those team, because if the Lions win that game, who knows

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00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 13: what happens with the Rams in Week eighteen, Lions maybe

1167
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 13: lock up the one seed would win in Dallas because

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00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 13: all we needed was one out of two are all

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00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 13: we need to do was win out. I think we

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Speaker 13: leave Minnesota. We just needed Dallas or I'm sorry san

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 13: Fran to lose one game. But now with that, with

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Speaker 13: the Lions losing the night, it's kind of locking up

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00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 13: stan Frant as the one seed. Bhilly should lock in

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 13: that two seed. And now I'm feeling that Detroit is

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Speaker 13: going to be Detroit versus the Rams in the playoffs,

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Speaker 13: and we'll see what happens. But I tell you this,

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Speaker 13: I want Dallas in Detroit in the playoffs. That's what

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00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 13: I want to see.

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 12: I want to see us lay them in Detroit.

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: In ford Field, I can imagine that Ford Ford Field

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: is going.

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00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: To be crazy.

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Speaker 2: Jerome, We appreciate your time, thank you for the call.

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to read a transcript of something that just

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00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: came out via the Detroit Sports Podcast.

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Speaker 3: First of all, great call from Leonard. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I like the pseudo conspiracy theory of basically ensuring that

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford has to go play a road game in

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Speaker 2: Detroit apparently. And we'll try to get this sound Jared Goff.

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Speaker 2: This is a quote via Detroit Sports Podcast. He said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I will get fined for this.

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: I know that Taylor Decker reported and Dan Skipper did not.

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually saw him say this.

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Speaker 2: This is legit, officials said. Dan Skipper reported, Officials just

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: messed it up. Unfortunate it happened on that play.

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Speaker 1: He also said, I didn't think the fix was in.

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Speaker 1: They just messed up. Okay, okay, So he added that.

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Speaker 2: As well well, and so again for people who are

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Speaker 2: just joining us a two point conversion it is called

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Speaker 2: illegal touching. A penalty is called. On Detroit, the referees

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01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: claim that the player did not properly report. Essentially, you

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Speaker 2: had three offensive linemen go up to the referees, the

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Speaker 2: obvious intention being, as Disager said from the beginning, if

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01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: only one offensive lineman goes up to him, you know

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: darn well that that's the guy that the ball is

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Speaker 2: going to. So three linemen go up. They claim number

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Speaker 2: seventy Dan Skipper was the one that reported U. That

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Speaker 2: is what they have told Dan Campbell. There is plenty

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Speaker 2: of video online that basically shows that that's impossible because

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Speaker 2: by the time that Dan Skipper got to the pseudo

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Speaker 2: huddle there, the referee was already running in the other direction.

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Speaker 2: There is no way, Jason other to put it than

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions got robbed. You know, we have Dan

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: Campbell saying that that number sixty eight Decker reported properly,

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: we have Jared Goff saying it, we have Decker himself

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: saying it.

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Speaker 3: And so unless it's the biggest.

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory ever, it appears as though the refs mess

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Speaker 2: this up. Jason, why don't we go ahead and take

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Speaker 2: one more call here by I.

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Speaker 1: Kind of want to. I want to try. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many we have, but I'd love to just

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Speaker 1: rapid fire America's reaction and then we can comment after

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: we take you know, whoever out there wants to talk

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01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: to us. If we need to get to Disager, we

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01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: can do that. But I just want to hear from

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Speaker 1: everybody right now.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what America, as Jason just said, hold

1229
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: your horses. Okay, We're gonna go to Dissager and then

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: we are going to take quick reaction.

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: We have out fo or five people waiting. We appreciate

1232
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: your support.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you want to get in one

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three sixty nine This is

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Speaker 2: the story of the day. It will likely be the

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: story of week seventeen. More reaction from you. Phone lines

1238
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Speaker 2: are open one eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.

1239
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: But before we get to your calls, let's toss it

1240
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: over the news desk Steve Desager.

1241
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 7: Fairly easy to understand what went on there in the

1242
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 7: final seconds. What will go down in pen is the

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01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys won at home tonight. They've won sixteenth straight

1244
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 7: at home, beat the Lions twenty to nineteen as Detroit's

1245
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 7: two point pass, which looked like a completion and maybe

1246
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 7: the game winner at the end, was nullified by a

1247
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 7: penalty and a later two point pass from Detroit was incomplete,

1248
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 7: so the Cowboys win Cede Lamb thirteen catches two hundred

1249
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 7: and twenty seven yards, including a long TD. But what

1250
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 7: everyone's talking about, and justifiably is that two point pass

1251
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 7: because Detroit had the perfect play. Get Taylor Decker sixty eight,

1252
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 7: a line in there to line up at left tackle,

1253
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,959
Speaker 7: pretend to block, and then go into the end zone

1254
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 7: as a receiver turn around, and all of that happened.

1255
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 7: It worked to perfection until the flag for illegal touching.

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01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 7: Because the referees ruled, No, you didn't report to me.

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 7: You who caught the pass. You're not a receiver. You

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 7: can't touch the pass. In the NFL, the linemen where

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 7: the numbers like sixty eight, and it's the way they

1260
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 7: can be distinguished by the defense is whom to cover.

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 7: Only way one of those players is eligible to catch

1262
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 7: a pass is if the officials are specifically told, hey,

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 7: for this play, he's eligible. They have to report to

1264
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 7: the ref changing your status of eligibility for the play.

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 7: And then the referee runs over to the defense if

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 7: captain specifically and tells them, And if you've been to

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 7: an NFL game, you then hear the referee say in

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 7: the stadium, X number has reported as eligible. There were

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 7: a couple of lineman over by the referee before that

1270
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 7: two point play, as Aaron mentioned, specifically to throw off

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 7: the defense Detroit to a man has said, sixty eight

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 7: reported as eligible as he should. He knows he's the

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 7: one that's going to get the pass, and yet the

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 7: referee reported to the defense, hey, seventies eligible. The pool

1275
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 7: report has just come out. Referee Brad Allen was interviewed

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 7: by somebody from the Pro Football Writers Association. Obviously, the

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 7: only question was about the illegal touch call on Detroit

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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 7: late that may have cost them a game. The referee,

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 7: Brad Allen, says number seventy, who had reported during the

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 7: game a couple of times, reported to me as eligible.

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01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 7: That alone is what's in dispute. The referee claims seventy

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 7: lined up at a tackle position, so actually he didn't

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01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 7: have to report it. All sixty eight, who wind up

1284
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 7: catching the pass he did not report, says the refs.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 7: Therefore he's ineligible. Seventy reported, sixty eight did not end quote.

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 7: There was a follow up question, but we noticed there

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 7: were two flags thrown on that two point play. Brad

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 7: Allen says, yeah, because seventy reported and then he was

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 7: covered up on the line of scrimmage, that makes it

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 7: an illegal formation. Well, maybe you should get it that

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01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 7: he's not the one who reported because he's not going

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 7: out for a pass. He's only there to block like

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01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 7: a normal offensive lineman. Brad Allen continues, Number seventy is

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Speaker 7: in an illegal position because he's covered up by rule

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Speaker 7: sixty eight catches the pass, he's not eligible. That's also illegal.

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Speaker 7: Hence two flags.

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Speaker 1: Can everything's illegal Because you watch the phone headed it, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because you got it wrong. Everything they did afterwards wasn't

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Speaker 1: wasn't legal, like the whole thing spiral.

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Speaker 7: Why would seventy report as eligible and lineup as a

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Speaker 7: right guard?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can I can?

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Speaker 1: I jump in?

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Speaker 12: Is there?

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Speaker 2: Like I understand, I guess your job is pseudo on

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Speaker 2: the line, But I don't.

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Speaker 7: Understand as a referee.

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Speaker 2: You mean yeah, as a referee, Like you know, I

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Speaker 2: know he's just defending his actions. I just there's video

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Speaker 2: where he doesn't even talk to number seventy, Like, is

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Speaker 2: would there be a consequence to say, are you no

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Speaker 2: more than that's right?

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Speaker 7: He runs to the defensive captain to say, hey, seventies reformed?

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Speaker 7: He got them?

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Speaker 3: Is not even he's already running the other way? Is

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Speaker 3: there a greater? Is this?

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm just gonna use a random example,

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Speaker 2: like when you get caught doing something bad and you

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Speaker 2: just lie lie liela LII or do you think he

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Speaker 2: really thinks because I know the league's gonna have.

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Speaker 1: His back, because the league always has the restaurant. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like he understands. Yeah, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: stick to my guns on this one. They'll eventually forget it, I.

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Speaker 7: Assume no playoff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like there's something too, just acknowledging

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Speaker 2: I really screwed this. And maybe he hasn't seen all

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Speaker 2: the video that we have seen, but it's so obvious

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Speaker 2: that his version of the events. It's like, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to think of an example of am I you know,

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Speaker 2: if I told my wife, oh, you know, I was

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Speaker 2: out late, but I was at work, and she finds

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Speaker 2: a bar tab receipt in my you know, in my pocket.

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Speaker 2: The lie just completely falls apart, and it's like, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't take that much to just see that what you're

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Speaker 2: telling us happened. There is no feasible scenario where it

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Speaker 2: actually happened.

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Speaker 3: I'm frustrated.

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Speaker 1: I also, look, hey, i'm mad too, And I went

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Speaker 1: back and watched the video. I'm gonna go watch the video.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what happens on the play. And when

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Speaker 1: I see two Dallas players going for sixty eight, they

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Speaker 1: believe sixty eight was eligible on the play, no one

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Speaker 1: was following seventy. They were just hanging out. It seemed

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Speaker 1: like they were just chilling. So it's not like sixty

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Speaker 1: eight was standing there with nobody around him for ten

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Speaker 1: yards God, so we're trying to get over to him.

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Speaker 1: So this whole thing just I don't like this.

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Speaker 7: The Packers fans have brought up this was the crew

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Speaker 7: that didn't call the pass interference late in the game

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 7: for Green Bay this year, two years ago. Is Brad

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 7: Allen back to back weeks. His crew did not notice

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01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 7: that the play clock had run down to zero once

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Speaker 7: it was about three full seconds after the play clock

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Speaker 7: showed zero, and they allowed a play account. This is

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Speaker 7: a guy who has refed a Rose Bowl about a

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Speaker 7: decade ago, refed a Sugar Bowl about a decade ago.

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Speaker 7: Four Bowl games total. He was an ACC official. He's

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Speaker 7: from North Carolina, worked ACC for about a decade. It's

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01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 7: been about a decade he's been in the NFL. Now

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01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 7: made his debut. He originally was not going to be

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Speaker 7: a referee. It was going to be an umpire, but

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Speaker 7: he got the call from Dean Blandino, a Fox who

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Speaker 7: back then worked for the NFL, because the longtime ref

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Speaker 7: Mike Carrey, was retiring and so they named Brad Allen

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Speaker 7: immediately to referee instead. That was the first time since

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Speaker 7: nineteen sixty two that an NFL official in his very

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Speaker 7: first year in the league was given a referees position.

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Speaker 7: All of this is very notable on his background as

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Speaker 7: we get to not only controversies aside from tonight, but

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Speaker 7: specifically about tonight, NFL Network reporting that Michigan head coach

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Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh, as he navigates his future, has hired Don

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Speaker 7: Yee as an agent, longtime agent for a couple NFL

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Speaker 7: notable names, Tom Brady and Sean Payton as he perhaps

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 7: weighs pursuit of an NFL job while they're preparing for

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Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl semi final Monday against Alabama. By the way,

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Speaker 7: Georgia won the Orange Bowl sixty three to three over

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Speaker 7: Florida State.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, I swear we were going to talk

1380
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: about all these coast football games at some point.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe we will, maybe we will not. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we have a Monday show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, maybe an hour three Well, well,

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: we'll back end this, but we have to continue to

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Speaker 2: talk about this. Thank you to Seger, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: aeron tors Jason Martin. As Jason said, we do want

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Speaker 2: to hear from you from America. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of this debacle? And you know and be respectful we

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Speaker 2: have a deep, you know, roster of people that want

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Speaker 2: away in. So if you want to call one eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine six six three sixty nine. Let's start with Manuel

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Speaker 2: in Guardina. Manuel, you're on Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Tors,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin.

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Speaker 3: The flor is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 12: First off, Happy New Year's fellas.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you, same to you.

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Speaker 12: Shape the travels for you and your families. First, now,

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01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 12: you guys touched on it a little bit that the

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 12: NFL is going to have this jerk offs back. He's

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01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 12: dump jack.

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: Wagons, not kidding, go ahead, he's jack.

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 12: Wagons that are in the zebra costumes repeatedly screw up games.

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 12: And then all the NFL does is send out some

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 12: stupid letter on Wednesday to tell the franchise. Oh I'm sorry,

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 12: the bonehead blue wig. I mean, this is a billion

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 12: dollar enterprise and you guys can't get it right if

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01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 12: they're not putting enough money into the Zebras. These guys

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 12: should be full time. They should be you know, trained

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 12: on every level of every damn rule so these things

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 12: don't happen. They're in bed with all these draft teams

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 12: and betting. You know MGM and Caesars and all that,

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 12: and yet how much money did that cost people with

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 12: that bonehead maneuver? So NFL you need to chase a

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 12: hike with that do better. That's all I got for you, Sellers,

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Speaker 12: Mautro Yo.

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: Autro man Well, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: O Ja, I wanted to hear from America. That was America.

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to send you to the league office.

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: You know the baseball bat. I need some answers. Meet

1421
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell in a dark alley with that baseball bet

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Speaker 2: Let's continue the calls.

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 3: Pat, who do we have up next?

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01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: I got the whole list here, but Jerome Fox Sports Radio,

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: you're on, Jerome man Well is a tough back to follow.

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01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: What do you got?

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Speaker 11: The Lions tried to pull a fast one and they

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 11: got caught. He was uncovered, which he makes him ineligible.

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 11: You cannot get the pass when you're ineligible. Taylor Decker,

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 11: Detroit Lions. He's ineligible. But hey, they're gonna be did

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 11: might be a problem when the playoffs comes, because I

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 11: don't know if I want to see them the kid Okay,

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01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 11: I don't know how they gonna be a team to

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 11: spoil us. The parties for San Francisco is gonna be

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 11: told jump, he's gonna be the Cowboys. Who knows. But hey,

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Speaker 11: I can't wait till the playoffs get here. Sham on you, Detroit,

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 11: you got caught. Don't stop cheating. There's enough of that

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01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 11: in college football.

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 12: We don't need that.

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: Baster You your Cowboys fan. It sounds like your Cowboys

1441
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: fan for.

1442
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 11: A long time. Look before you were probably even born. Okay,

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 11: back in the sixties. I'm sixty seven years old, real quick,

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 11: You're the Cowboys? Yes?

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: How great was that Jimmy Johnson halftime speech?

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Speaker 11: By the way, long overdue, long over dude. Okay, I'm

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01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 11: out for him. He looks fantastic.

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 12: Ten years ago.

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 11: He looks fantastic. You're talking to them. I'm machined. I

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01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 11: gotta go work out.

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, Jerome, you go work out, because as much as

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01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 2: we love your enthusiasm and your enthusiasm for the Cowboys,

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: Detroit did nothing wrong. By the way, I think Jim

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: Goodman just tweeted in something that he articulated my point

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: better than I think I could.

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: He said.

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: Even Jim Joyce admitted he screwed up us. That is integrity.

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 2: The NFL refs have no integrity.

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: That's my frustration is that basically whether I don't know

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: if he's seen video or not, but essentially the story

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: that he claims to have happened is impossible based on

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: the video that we have, so listen.

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Speaker 1: We also not pulling a fast one. Like I want

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01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: to say this about Jerome because I know we're going

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: to break here and then we can get some more.

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: But Jerome, buddy, they didn't try to pull a fast

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01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: one if they told the official before the game what

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01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: they were going to do. If they went there and said, hey,

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: here's what we're going to do. We want to make

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: sure you understand this so that you don't get confused.

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: And that's what happens if you're trying to do something

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01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: that relies on some kind of deceit or trying to

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: create confusion or all this kind of stuff, which is

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: something that NFL teams do all the time. You are

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: supposed to talk to the officiating crew before the game

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: and let them know, hey, this is something that we

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: might be doing. Understand when it happens. This is the

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: purpose of this, and this is what we are accomplishing here.

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: This guy's going to be eligible all this. Dan Campbell says,

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they did, and he still got it wrong.

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: That's not trying to cheat, that's, in fact, going out

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: of your way to make sure no one thinks you're

1484
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: trying to cheat by making sure the official understands ahead

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: of time. There's no excuse at all for Brad Allen

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01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: and the officiating crew that I have seen that gets

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: them off the hook on this.

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: No excuse, and I I think the broader thing, the

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01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: more frustrating thing, is that at least as of this moment,

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: Brad Allen is sticking to his story. And again I

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: cannot emphasize this enough. Based on every piece of video

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: that came out of that game. By the way, welcome

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three, there's cameras everywhere, Surprise, surprise. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of different camera angles in a football stadium,

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01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: and there is no way that the way the referees

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: are claiming it went down, it possibly could have Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Aeron Torris, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Tyreck dot Com studios. Again, you want to

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Speaker 2: get into the show. One eight seven, seven ninety nine

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Speaker 2: six three sixty nine more of your calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: Insane ending in Detroit or excuse me, in Dallas with

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys winning twenty to nineteen, controversy reign Supreme.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireq dot com studios. Tell you this that Crew

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Speaker 2: Chief might have to go to Havana pretty soon because

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Speaker 2: you are somehow just joining us chaos. At the end

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: of the Dallas Detroit game, Dallas is up twenty to nineteen.

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01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: After Detroit scores a touchdown, Detroit goes for two. May

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: convert the touch they convert the two point conversion. Excuse me,

1520
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: but the player who catches the pass is an offensive

1521
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: lineman who is flagged excuse me for he is flagged

1522
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,520
Speaker 2: for illegal touching, basically for not reporting to the referee.

1523
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: We have since had multiple videos emerge of him talking

1524
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 2: to the referee, the referee through the flag egregiously and erroneously.

1525
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 3: He said that a different player reported to him.

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01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: We have video that there is no way that that

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: could have possibly happened under the timeline in which it

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01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: was managed. There is no way to put it other

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: than that the Detroit Lions got screwed out of a

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: win tonight in Dallas, a win that would have kept

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: them alive for the number one overall seed.

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01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: Want to keep the.

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: Phone lines going because the phone lines are on fire

1534
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: right now. Let's go to Andrew and Bakersfield has been

1535
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: waiting a long time. Andrew and Bakersfield. You're on Fox

1536
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio with Eron Torres, Jason Martin. How are you tonight?

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 3: Andrew?

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01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 12: Hey?

1539
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 4: Doing good? Hey? What's the name of that song that

1540
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 4: came for the break?

1541
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: Savanna by Comia Cabello.

1542
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: That's producer Lorena, who is as fired up about this

1543
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: result as anybody in America right now.

1544
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 3: But continue, Andrew, go ahead.

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 4: Okay, I have two quick questions in a comment. First question,

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 4: is it normal practice for the coach to go to

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 4: the refs before the game and talk to them about

1548
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 4: a trick play?

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01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, okay, so yeah yeah.

1550
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: To answer your question, Andrew and Jason, was was the

1551
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: synct But yes it is, especially as as Jason said

1552
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 2: in the last segment, if there's something that is unorthodox

1553
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, these are conversations that that that

1554
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: that should happen. And obviously Dan Campbell claims did happen.

1555
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: Even if it didn't happen, the ref still got it wrong.

1556
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: But Dan Campbell did say for people who did not

1557
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: hear the audio, he said he spoke to the referees

1558
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 2: about this specific instance beforehand.

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: Andrew, what else you got?

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01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 4: Okay? Second question, what is the point of like three

1561
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 4: line men going up to the ref if the ref

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01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 4: is going to go and tell the defense the exact number.

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01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. That is a good question.

1564
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 2: That is a good question.

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: Jason.

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have anything to add there.

1567
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, because the I not I.

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Mean not much. The one thing, the one thing that

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: I will say is that I believe on the loudspeaker

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: it says seventy is eligible eligible. So the official was wrong.

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01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're listening for that if

1572
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: you're on the field in that moment, But I don't

1573
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: really know unless you're trying to shield the defense a

1574
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: little bit to try and throw them into a little confusion.

1575
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is built on deception, but

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01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: it's not illegal deception. It's the same kind of stuff

1577
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: that you see teams try to do all the time.

1578
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: That's why Dan Campbell had the conversation pregame, he said,

1579
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: because he knew, Hey, this thing could be confusing, So

1580
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you understand.

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01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: Dan Andrew, thank you for the call.

1582
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: I also think Jason Andrew's point brings up something that

1583
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: you brought up from the beginning, is that if you

1584
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: look at the Dallas defenders after the play, it's not

1585
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: as though the guy just snuck off the line of

1586
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: scrimmage number sixty eight decker and there was nobody within

1587
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: ten yards of them. Well, I mean, nobody was close

1588
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,480
Speaker 2: to him, but you could see the defensive players frustrated,

1589
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 2: no knowing that they had kind of screwed up so

1590
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: to it.

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: But they're not running to the official and saying he's

1592
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: not eligible throw a flag. They're acting like, oh crap,

1593
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: they got us, they beat us, like they're they're not

1594
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: upset thinking something illegal happened.

1595
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 3: No, there's no doubt.

1596
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: There's no doubt, and there's there's just based on the

1597
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: video that we have and the quotes that we have,

1598
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: there is no way that the referee that it went

1599
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: down the way that the referee said. Fox Sports Radio

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 2: Erintors Jason Martin. We will have more of your calls,

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Speaker 2: just joining us, we have essentially been on one story.

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Speaker 2: The entire show will rap with some college football playoff

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 2: picks and Jason and I do just want to share

1612
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: some quick thoughts on the debacle that was Florida State Georgia.

1613
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: That's about a half an hour from now. We'll also

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01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: preview the big Baltimore Miami game tomorrow, but we are

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: going to start this hour. The phone lines are humming

1616
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: with the story of the night. That is the ending

1617
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: of the Dallas Detroit game in Dallas.

1618
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 3: For those of you who are just joining us, I will.

1619
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: Reset it again very quickly. But essentially, Dallas kicks a

1620
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: field goal to go up twenty to thirteen with under

1621
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: two minutes to go, and even that was pseudo controversial

1622
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: because they could have They threw a deep pass when

1623
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: they could have just called a time when they could

1624
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: have run the ball, forced Detroit to use a final timeout.

1625
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 2: Detroit was able to save it for one more play

1626
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: and save about thirty thirty five seconds on the clock.

1627
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: Whatever it ends up being, bring it up. Detroit gets

1628
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: the ball back with under two minutes to go. They

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 2: drive the length of the field. They score a touchdown

1630
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: to make it twenty to nineteen. With twenty three seconds left,

1631
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: they can kick the extra point. They decide to go

1632
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: for two. This is where it gets interesting. The first

1633
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: attempt at going for two, Detroit lines up completes a

1634
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: pass to an offensive lineman. There is a flag called.

1635
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: It is called illegal touching, with the stipulation being that

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01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: the player number sixty eight Taylor Decker, did not report

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01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: to the referees. Long story short, we have multiple people.

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: Jared Goff said it, Taylor Decker said it, and Dan

1639
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: Campbell said, oh no, no, no, no, the right guy reported,

1640
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: not number seventy. The referee says that number seventy. He

1641
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: was the one who reported. We essentially have video that

1642
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: confirms it. I'll tell you what Pat and Loraino really quick.

1643
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Let's get the Dan Campbell sound up of him explaining

1644
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: the situation. I don't know if I'm doing a good

1645
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: enough job when you let let me know when you

1646
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: have it. But Dan Campbell talking about the situation. The

1647
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: sound is not great. Just the sound is not great.

1648
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: Just give me a thumbs up, guys when you have it.

1649
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: But essentially, Dan Campbell is explaining the situation that I

1650
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: just did again. Number sixty eight, the number sixty eight,

1651
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker was the one who caught the pass, but

1652
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell was told that number seventy reported.

1653
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: Do we have it?

1654
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 8: The explanation you got on the two point reported to

1655
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 8: did that report as well?

1656
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1657
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,879
Speaker 9: The explanation was seventy reported.

1658
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: Did thatsport?

1659
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 11: Yes?

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01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 9: Two people can't report. I don't want to talk about it, right.

1661
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 9: I explained everything pre game to the tee. Okay, I

1662
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 9: did that seventy reporting, fifty eight didn't or sixty eight

1663
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 9: didn't we throw at sixty eight. That was the explanation.

1664
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: That was Dan Campbell after the game, and that last

1665
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: part Chase and I thought was a very important part.

1666
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: Where As we've discussed throughout the last hour or so,

1667
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell said that he spoke with the referees before

1668
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: the game. He said that he explained this exact situation.

1669
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 2: He explained that number sixty eight would be an eligible receiver.

1670
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: The referee said number seventy. Dan Skipper was the player

1671
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: who reported to him. All you gotta do is look

1672
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: at video on social media. There is no way it

1673
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: could have gone down the way the referee says it does.

1674
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 2: The referee was asked about it after the game by

1675
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: a pool reporter. What he said, There's just no way

1676
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 2: to put it, Jason, There's no way it could have

1677
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: gone down.

1678
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: Doubled down on sure, double down on his decision. And

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01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: in my in my opinion, well I wouldn't say live

1680
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: because maybe he hasn't seen what we've seen, but he

1681
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: certainly takes no responsibility that there even could have possibly

1682
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: been a mix up exactly.

1683
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: And I think for me to be clear, I'm not

1684
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 2: from Detroit. I I I've I've actually never been to Detroit.

1685
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking about I'm not a Lions fan. I

1686
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 2: have no skin in the game. But they got robbed.

1687
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 2: They got robbed. There's there's no other way to put it.

1688
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the phone lines. Pat

1689
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: Is Preston from Ohio still still available. Preston from Ohio,

1690
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: You're on Fox Sports Radio. We appeal appreciate you waiting.

1691
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: What was your takeaway from what we saw tonight?

1692
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 14: No problem with Torres. Look, I'm a Bengal, I'm a

1693
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 14: buck Eye, and I'm sitting in the er. I swammed

1694
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 14: my hands so hard on the bar I broke my wrist.

1695
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 13: What that really?

1696
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 14: I'm serious, I'm very serious.

1697
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 10: That is the most egregious call I've ever seen. And

1698
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 10: the NFL tomorrow is gonna come out and say, oops,

1699
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 10: my bad.

1700
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 3: You know, isn't that the most frustrating part?

1701
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 10: Like and I bret my arm, claming my hand on this,

1702
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 10: you know, the worst call ever.

1703
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: You know, it started with a hand, now it's an arm.

1704
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Jason, I'm starting to think maybe this isn't No, I'm kidding, Preston,

1705
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

1706
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 14: No.

1707
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean that that I think is the most frustrating thing.

1708
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: And Presson, we do appreciate your call, and by the way,

1709
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 2: get better. Preston, by the way, real quick, Preston, you

1710
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 2: did I know you must be mad because that Ohio

1711
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: State offense last night. I would have thought you would

1712
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: have broken a fist or a hand last night after

1713
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 2: what we saw from the Buckeye.

1714
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 14: I threw twice last night over that game.

1715
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 10: But that's this. This game is the worst egregious.

1716
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 14: Call I've ever seen.

1717
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Preston. Jason.

1718
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: I think that what Preston just expressed, and he's not

1719
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: a Lions fan, and I think that's where I think

1720
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 2: so many people are frustrated is the lack of account

1721
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: Like it's bad enough you stole a win from Detroit.

1722
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: There is no other way to put it other than

1723
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: that you stole a win from Detroit. But the fact

1724
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: that will get some you know half you know what

1725
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: statement from the league. The fact that Brad Allen to

1726
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: to this date has not taken any accountability. I know

1727
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 2: he spoke with a pool reporter, maybe he hadn't seen

1728
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: any video, whatever, but there like this is one of

1729
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: those things I don't think an apology is good enough.

1730
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: And I'm not mister cancel everybody, a guy needs to

1731
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: be fired. But that is such a screw up at

1732
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: such a high level. If Dan, if it went down

1733
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: as Dan Campbell said, where they reported to, or Dan

1734
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Campbell told them what was gonna happen before it happened,

1735
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 2: it is just so egregious.

1736
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: And Preston is so right. This is so frustrating, Jason,

1737
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:58,520
Speaker 3: It is so frustrating.

1738
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: What's annoying about it is just if Dan Campbell did

1739
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: everything right in the moment. Then Brad Allen, yep, he

1740
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: talked to us before the game and you know what,

1741
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: I need to go see it again something something anything

1742
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: like that. But of course at this point you kind

1743
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: of have to stick by because they're not going to

1744
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: replay it. Here's what Mark Sleis said after the game.

1745
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: He said, after watching it, he's talking, hey, you, meaning

1746
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Brad Allen. He's talking to Decker and Sewull as Skipper

1747
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: runs in Skipper never gets to the ref to report,

1748
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: so I think deer reporting. But the ref is seeing

1749
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: skipper running in and announces it wrong, announces it as skipper,

1750
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: so he sees it wrong. So here's the thing, Brad Allen,

1751
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you were acting in bad faith. I

1752
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: think you made a mistake. I think you got something

1753
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: wrong in that moment. That's what's frustrating now is you

1754
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: continuing to double down and matter of fact this thing

1755
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: like your emperor nero and no one can question you

1756
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: at this point. That's not going to reflect very well,

1757
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: especially if there's a maya culpa at any point after

1758
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the fact like you had. We had the Jim Joyce

1759
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: comment made earlier. Jim Joyce ended up, you know, in

1760
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good place after that because he admitted it

1761
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: to it. He actually owned up to the owned up

1762
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: to the error, felt terrible about it, ended up being

1763
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: a nice moment with him in Galaraga later on. You know,

1764
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: all of that kind of thing here, Brad Allen. He

1765
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: doesn't need to come out and be so one. I

1766
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: know what, I'm right he because I think he's gonna

1767
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: figure out after a while. Okay, I kind of I

1768
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: think I see what happened here. And I understand that

1769
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't think he did anything wrong because he technically

1770
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: didn't in terms of his intent. He just he made

1771
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: a human error. He made a boneheaded, horrible mistake that

1772
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: cost a team a game and potentially a one seed,

1773
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: and who knows how it ends up going into playoffs.

1774
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: I think it's the petulance in the response and the

1775
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: arrogance to just know this is what happened. No, oh no,

1776
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: We're all capable of seeing a lot more now than

1777
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: we were thirty years ago, when maybe the officials could

1778
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: be ruled differently. This this just stinks to high heaven.

1779
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny because I actually think, you know,

1780
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 2: we finished Are you ready for this?

1781
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: We finished our one.

1782
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: It feels like it was ten years ago, but we

1783
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: finished our one by me asking you should referees be

1784
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: required to go to the podium atter the game the

1785
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 2: way that players and coaches are. And I bring it

1786
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: up because this is a perfect example of it's not

1787
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: a it's not an attack thing. It's not a you know,

1788
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: we have to get them. But this is a perfect

1789
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: example of we're only getting one side of the story.

1790
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: And I can't figure out what would be the argument.

1791
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm watching Lebron do his post game.

1792
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying the same thing.

1793
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: He's got a bottle of wide right behind it, right

1794
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 3: behind him.

1795
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Is that a common occurrence for him after every game? Well?

1796
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: I remember a few years ago, not to completely changed

1797
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: the subject, but there was.

1798
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: A game that he was sitting out.

1799
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: It was the year I think they were trying to

1800
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: trade for Anthony Davis and the Pelicans basically refused to

1801
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 2: refuse to trade him. And I'm pretty sure he walked

1802
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: into the arena with a cup of wine because I

1803
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: was out air with Rny. It was like around the

1804
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Christmas holidays, and it was one of those years where

1805
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: like he was clearly frustrated and he was checked out.

1806
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: So I don't watch enough Lakers postgame to know, but yeah,

1807
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 2: the bottle of wine was right behind Lebron as he

1808
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: was talking about a controversial finish in his game in

1809
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Dallas or Minnesota, excuse me tonight. So he brought his

1810
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: own wine to Minnesota. That's interesting in its own right,

1811
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: so Dallas. So what I was saying was, I think

1812
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: this is this is almost why it actually be a

1813
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: good thing for referees to go to the podium, because one,

1814
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 2: he could either just say point blank.

1815
01:31:59,080 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 3: I screwed up.

1816
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, you know, he becomes, I

1817
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: don't think in Detroit, but a pseudo sympathetic figure. But two,

1818
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: maybe there is some alternative universe where he is not wrong.

1819
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 2: But we're only hearing from Dan Campbell. We're only hearing

1820
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: from Jared Goff. We're only hearing from Taylor Taylor Decker.

1821
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: I keep want to call him Taylor Luwan who obviously

1822
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 2: played in the NFL, as well, Taylor Decker. We're only

1823
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: hearing from them. This is almost why you have to

1824
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: have referees. I don't know if it'll ever happen. It

1825
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 2: probably won't, but it would make this so much smoother. Instead,

1826
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: we're only getting one side, and this guy is just

1827
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: a punching bag right now.

1828
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, I mean he is, and it's it's not

1829
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: going to get better, I don't think. I mean, I

1830
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: see some people defending the shield and saying, oh, look,

1831
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: well the Lions are trying to get away with something.

1832
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Well no, they weren't. They weren't trying to get away

1833
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: with anything with the officials. That's why they talked to

1834
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: the officials before. When you're gonna run specific trick plays,

1835
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: talk to him ahead of time, and you make sure

1836
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: that everybody understands it, because the last thing you want

1837
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: is the official to be confused and to screw something up.

1838
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: You want the official to understand what you're doing so

1839
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: that it goes without a hitch, unless the defense actually

1840
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: finds a way to stop it or whatever. In that circumstance,

1841
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they still screwed it up when the

1842
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: Lions did everything that they were supposed to do to

1843
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: a t man, that's I can't even imagine, Like how

1844
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: angry Dan Campbell is when there's not a camera in

1845
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 1: his face, Like he was frustrated with a camera. He

1846
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: was pretty measured in that. I I boy, I would

1847
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: love to have been in the locker room when the

1848
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: door closed and it's just him and his team in there,

1849
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: or him and his coaching staff.

1850
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1851
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: And last thought is yeah, I actually thought he handled

1852
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 2: it actually pretty well all things considered. Really quickly. We've

1853
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: talked for you know, because it's funny. First we started

1854
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: talking about how Mike McCarthy's grew it up. Then we

1855
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: were critical of Dan Campbell, and it is worth noting,

1856
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 2: and I don't think I've even said it in this hour,

1857
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: so if you're just joining us, this play happened. Then

1858
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 2: they get pushed back five yards for an incorrect call,

1859
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: but Dan Campbell could have kicked the extra point. At

1860
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 2: that point, they decided to go for it again. What

1861
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: ends up happening Then Michael Parsons jumps off side, so

1862
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: it's half the distance the goal. They get a third

1863
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 2: chance and the play is short. Anything from the Dallas perspective,

1864
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the story. So we've spent two

1865
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 2: and a half hours talking about this, but from the

1866
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Dallas perspective, anything to wrap on before we finally eventually.

1867
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 3: Move on to some other stuff this evening, Jayson.

1868
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a win over a team that you

1869
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: might see again, but it still leaves me wondering about

1870
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's clock management and game management laden games. I

1871
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing, not running the football, going

1872
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: into the two minute warning on every single down, doing

1873
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: everything you can to make sure the Lions have no

1874
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 1: timeouts to play with. Even if you do have to

1875
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: give them the ball, they're not going to have to

1876
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: time to do what they inevitably did then go and

1877
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: do Outside of the two point conversion, you saw a

1878
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of good Dak Ceedee Lamb had a career night.

1879
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: This was a This was kind of the game that

1880
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: you needed if you were Dallas to get back on

1881
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: the momentum. The defense played relatively well, took a couple

1882
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: away from Jared Goff. They got back to playing more

1883
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: I would say, aggressively on that side of the ball.

1884
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. The takeaway from this game is

1885
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: that the Lions were screwed and were the better team.

1886
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: That's that's the issue. If you're Dallas, you can take

1887
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: away to win. But I think most of us, all

1888
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: things considered, I feel better about the Lions right now

1889
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: than I do the Cowboys.

1890
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 3: Do you one hundred percent?

1891
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Because you know, you look at what we thought coming

1892
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 2: into this game, and you and I filled in for

1893
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon last night. If you missed

1894
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 2: any of that show, go back now with the podcast.

1895
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 2: We had a lot to say about Ohio State. But

1896
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: why but what I'll say this fun tonight to be

1897
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 2: on air because we just go back to back with

1898
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 2: some really interesting stuff that frankly, I don't think we're

1899
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 2: expecting on either night for sure. But yeah, because when

1900
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 2: we previewed this game, we talked about the idea that

1901
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Dallas has now lost to in a row. They need

1902
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: this win and you're going to get their best effort. Well,

1903
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: you got a great effort from Dallas, but you got

1904
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 2: a pretty great effort from Detroit to on the road.

1905
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: This team continues to impress me, Jason, this team being Detroit,

1906
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,919
Speaker 2: because it's like every time that you think they're Detroit

1907
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 2: and they're gonna be content and hey, you know, we've

1908
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: never been here. We just clinched the playoff spot. We're

1909
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 2: gonna be happy they You know, I'm not gonna say

1910
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 2: that that you're not trying to win every game you play,

1911
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 2: but I thought they put together a darn good effort.

1912
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 2: And again, there's no other way to put it. They

1913
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: got robbed of this game, Jason.

1914
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: So yep, they did. And we'll see what it ends up.

1915
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Meaning when we actually get to the playoffs and we

1916
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: see the seeds and we see the matchups. Good news

1917
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: is it's not for like a playoff spot. Yeah, the

1918
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Lions are already in. Everything is still on the table

1919
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: for them. It may have complicated their pathway a little bit.

1920
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess time will tell. This is just hopefully.

1921
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about you want you want this

1922
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 1: to get out of the way for a team before

1923
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you get into the postseason or something like that. Well,

1924
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: in this case, can we get it out of the officials?

1925
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking that. I mean, this

1926
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 2: is always the fear is that something like this could

1927
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 2: happen in the playoffs, could mar the playoffs.

1928
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: And it has Remember the famous Saints Rams call, which

1929
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: is still possibly the worst call in NFL history.

1930
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Well, and of course the last time in the playoffs,

1931
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: right against was it against the Cowboys?

1932
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

1933
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, unbelievable. You know what else is unbelievable?

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1936
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Speaker 2: everything you've earned doubled. Seriously, c terms of check it

1937
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 2: out for yourself at Discover dot com. Slash Match when

1938
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: we come back. Oh by the way, there's there's a

1939
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: Sunday full of games we got to get to, specifically,

1940
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 2: first play on the Line in the AFC Baltimore, Miami.

1941
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Speaker 3: That's next.

1942
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

1943
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody.

1944
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Lorena. If you ever leave our show,

1945
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss you because you play some great music

1946
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 2: coming back out of break.

1947
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you love what I put on for you.

1948
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm sad that we don't get any more Christmas music.

1949
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie until next year.

1950
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 3: You know, I can always sneak in a little Rudolph

1951
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 3: if you need it.

1952
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 2: Maybe, well we'll see. It's like it's like the it's

1953
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 2: like the Christmas tree. Just because it's past Christmas, you

1954
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: can leave the Christmas tree up a few weeks. I

1955
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: was kind of mad, Like the twenty sixth they were

1956
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 2: still playing Christmas movies and then we got to the

1957
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 2: twenty seventh and it was back to just you know.

1958
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Not in my household.

1959
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just my wife.

1960
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: My wife makes the makes the claim she would listen

1961
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: to Christmas for music all year long, and I made

1962
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: a mistake of telling her that there's now, you know,

1963
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: streaming stations that make that something she can do. So

1964
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: I'm expecting to hear it all year long.

1965
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 2: You know who else listen. I'm not even kidding that

1966
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: you'll you'll laugh at this. You know who else listens?

1967
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: To Christmas music three hundred and sixty five days a year,

1968
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 2: a prominent football coach.

1969
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 3: And when I tell you who it is, you'll be like, yeah,

1970
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 3: that makes sense. PJ.

1971
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 2: Fleck listens to Christmas I swear to god. He literally

1972
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 2: did an interview about four or five years ago. I

1973
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 2: forget with who, and he's like, well, listen, I mean

1974
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: if everyone's always in the festive mood whenever Christmas music

1975
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: comes on, So he said, why can't I just do that,

1976
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 2: you know, all year long?

1977
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: So that sounds exactly like PJ. Fleck you would do

1978
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: while he's rowing the boat exactly.

1979
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 2: So Fox, I'll say this, Jason Fox Sports Radio, Aer Torris,

1980
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting life from the Tireck dot

1981
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 2: Com studios. We'll save PJ. Fleck talk for another day.

1982
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: Really quickly before we get to Di Seger, quick thoughts

1983
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 2: on you know, another huge game tomorrow. Obviously, first place

1984
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 2: is on the line in the AFC Baltimore coming off

1985
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: that in incredible Christmas Night win over the San Francisco

1986
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, they fly back home Miami the walk

1987
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,560
Speaker 2: off field goal against the Cowboys. I think it'll be

1988
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 2: a great game. I know there's kind of this narrative

1989
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 2: now of like, well, you know, the Dolphins got sort

1990
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: of lucky that now they got to go on the road.

1991
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:17,719
Speaker 2: What do you make of the game?

1992
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the Dolphins have shown they're

1993
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: very dangerous. I think this is a rough matchup for

1994
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: them because they're gonna go play in forty five degree weather,

1995
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: and forty five in Baltimore often comes accompanied with wind

1996
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: or some craziness like that we'll see. But tough place

1997
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: to play on the road against a team that's really

1998
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: hard to prepare for. And I think the difference for

1999
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins as of late has been their defense has

2000
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: stepped up. If you look at their efficiency numbers, they're

2001
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: one of the best units in the league. They've gotten

2002
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Jayleen Ramsey back, They're starting to play a lot better

2003
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 1: on that side of the football. Not having Jaylen Waddle

2004
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 1: is a big absence in this game. Now you're gonna

2005
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: have Tyreek Hill that's gonna put you there. It looks

2006
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: like moster it's also going to be inactive for this

2007
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: one as well, So they're going in banged up in

2008
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: in spots where they really don't need to be. I

2009
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 1: am more I believe in them more right now than

2010
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 1: I did four weeks ago. I don't fully subscribe to

2011
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: the narrative they can't beat good teams because I've seen

2012
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: them in some games as of late where outside of

2013
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: a fluky situation with the Titans, they've performed pretty well.

2014
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they've won five of six. It's not like

2015
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: they're beating great teams. But at the same time, they're

2016
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: competing pretty hard. The Cowboys win, I don't care how

2017
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: they got it. I mean, do we want to talk

2018
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: about Miami getting lucky after what Dallas did tonight against Detroit?

2019
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: So it's really the same argument. This next two weeks

2020
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: will tell you a lot if there is something to

2021
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: play for in the final week of the season for

2022
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 1: everybody involved. But I like Baltimore in this game because

2023
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: they've got it at home, and because they're a little healthier,

2024
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: and because Lamar is just I think Lamar is going

2025
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: to be hard for them to try and cover in

2026
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: this game. But I also think this should be a

2027
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: great one and this could easily be I don't know

2028
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: what to say. I haven't looked at the seeds to

2029
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: see if it's possible, but this could easily be an

2030
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: AFC championship kind of game.

2031
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both in contention for the for the number

2032
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 2: one overall seed. Obviously Miami would have the head to

2033
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 2: head win. My only real quick thought on this is

2034
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: that I do wonder it feels like the narrative. By

2035
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,759
Speaker 2: the way, I'm almost certain that the winner of this game,

2036
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: if both teams were to win or to lose, the

2037
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: winner of this game would would we get the number

2038
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: one seed? And I think whoever gets, whoever loses, these

2039
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 2: are going to be the top two seeds one way

2040
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 2: or the other. But I bring it up because I

2041
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 2: do wonder it feels like the narrative on Baltimore has

2042
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: swung a little too far in the last week. Now,

2043
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 2: it's justifiable. You go on the road, you smack around

2044
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 2: San Francisco. I know there's been so much Lamar Jackson

2045
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 2: MVP talk that frankly, not enough credit has been given

2046
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: to that Baltimore defense. But you know, it's just this

2047
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 2: league has a weird way of you know, not letting

2048
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 2: you get too high, not letting you get too low.

2049
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: But that will be a good one.

2050
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio air tourist Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

2051
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com Studios. When we come back, Jason

2052
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 2: and I got to share some quick thoughts on that

2053
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 2: debacle that was the Orange Bowl today before we do

2054
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 2: though final time this evening, Steve Disager, what is trending?

2055
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 7: You mentioned the Orange Bowl that was the largest win

2056
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 7: ever in any bowl game, Georgia sixty three to three

2057
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 7: over number five Florida State.

2058
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: You know what? The you know what? The what the

2059
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,879
Speaker 1: record was prior to that? It was George and TCU.

2060
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 7: That was my guess the largest difference.

2061
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Yes, really Georgia. They broke their own record from less

2062
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: than a year ago.

2063
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 7: This was the largest win ever against an AP Top

2064
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 7: five team. By the way, Bowl wins for Ole, Miss,

2065
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 7: Maryland and Wyoming. You mentioned the Dolphins. It's NFL Network

2066
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 7: tonight that's reporting that running back Raheem Moster will not

2067
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,879
Speaker 7: play Sunday due to knee and ankle injuries.

2068
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: We already knew.

2069
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 7: Wide receiver Jalen Waddle is out with a high ankle sprain.

2070
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 7: Baltimore hosts Miami. Quarterback Tutanga bay Loa is due to

2071
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 7: start despite thumb and quad injuries. Cincinnati's at Kansas City tomorrow.

2072
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 7: Temperature in the thirties. Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco cleared

2073
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 7: concussion protocol and is due to play. Wide receiver McCole

2074
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 7: Hardman was activated off IR. Kadarius Tony is out. Bengals

2075
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 7: star wide receiver Jamar Chase was limited in practice again

2076
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 7: yesterday with his bad shoulder. New England's at Buffalo Sunday

2077
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 7: temperatures in the thirties with snow right after the game

2078
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 7: as the forecast. Patriots wide receiver Juju Smith Schuster was

2079
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 7: placed on IR with a bad ankle. And Who's going

2080
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 7: to start for Washington tomorrow? The forty nine Ers are

2081
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 7: at Washington and the Commanders signed quarterback Jake from to

2082
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 7: the active roster today. They'd said the starting quarterback this

2083
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 7: weekend would be Jacoby Brissett, but he's likely a game

2084
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 7: time decision with a tight hamstring, so Sam Hal could

2085
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 7: be starting. We'll see. Seattle plays safety Jamal Adams on

2086
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 7: IR with a bad knee. Linebacker Jordan Brooks is out tomorrow.

2087
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 7: Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph will start Sunday against Seattle. Linebacker

2088
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 7: Frank Clark was released by the Seahawks today. It's looking

2089
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 7: like running back Kenneth Walker could play for Seattle. He's

2090
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 7: called a game time decision due to illness and a

2091
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 7: shoulder injury, and Raiders running back Josh Jacobs was listed

2092
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 7: as doubtful with a quad injury, as Vegas is at

2093
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 7: the Colts. And before we get to this Cowboys win tonight,

2094
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 7: can I mention a little history was avoided tonight because

2095
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 7: the Pistons actually won a game. They had lost twenty

2096
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 7: eight straight games.

2097
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 3: We were supposed to talk about that.

2098
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: It was that was taught. Yeah, that was that was

2099
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:31,959
Speaker 1: on the docket.

2100
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 7: A different Detroit team came up later in the evening,

2101
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 7: but the Pistons edge Toronto one twenty nine one seven.

2102
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 7: Their twenty eight straight losses had tied the record for

2103
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 7: longest losing streak in any of the major sports, any

2104
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 7: of those four sports history. This was twenty eight straight

2105
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 7: going back to last season. There was a Cowboys injury

2106
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 7: in Dallas tonight for left guard Tyler Smith, a good lineman,

2107
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 7: who at one point late third quarter grabbed his left foot,

2108
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 7: and owner Jerry Jones said afterwards that Smith tore his

2109
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 7: planter fascia in his left foot and will have an

2110
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 7: MRI tomorrow. Meanwhile, the lineman being talked about is the

2111
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 7: guy who was we thought tackle eligible on the left

2112
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 7: side for Detroit going for two and the win. Late

2113
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 7: Taylor Decker was ruled ineligible after he caught what looked

2114
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 7: like the go ahead two point conversion. Taylor Decker has

2115
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 7: caught two touchdown passes in his Detroit career. In fact,

2116
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 7: he's been targeted three times as a lineman. This two

2117
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 7: point play at the end was nullified. Let's be accurate.

2118
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 7: It didn't cost the Lions the game, it certainly cost

2119
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,520
Speaker 7: them the lead. A later two point pass was incomplete.

2120
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 7: The referee Brad Allen claimed that number seventy is the

2121
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 7: one who reported it as eligible, which would be odd

2122
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 7: because then seventy when proceeded to just line up as

2123
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 7: a regular offensive lineman and block, he didn't go into

2124
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 7: the end zone to catch a pass. But you could

2125
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 7: hear the announcement on Mike in the stadium. From what

2126
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 7: Brad Allen understands and communicating to the crowd on the

2127
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 7: ESPN Deporte's feet in the background, he's the one speaking English.

2128
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 7: Number seventy is eligible, he says, So he had that incorrect.

2129
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 7: According to Detroit Cowboys win twenty to nineteen ced LAMB

2130
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 7: thirteen catches, two hundred and twenty seven yards and a score.

2131
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 7: So now the forty nine ers can clinch at least

2132
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 7: the two seed in the NFC with one more win

2133
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 7: either tomorrow or in the final weekend. The Niners have, well,

2134
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 7: they're in the driver's seat for the one seed because

2135
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 7: they have by far the best conference record, which is

2136
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 7: a tiebreaker. They're nine to one against NFC teams, so yeah,

2137
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 7: they're tied with Philadelphia with the same win loss record,

2138
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 7: but they have the tiebreaker over Philadelphia because of head

2139
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 7: to head. Will Detroit get the three seed after losing tonight?

2140
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 7: The good news for the Dallas Cowboys is they have

2141
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 7: the same record as Detroit after tonight. Now, if there's

2142
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 7: a tie with Detroit and the NFC standings, obviously Dallas

2143
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 7: because of this evening would be getting the head to

2144
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 7: head advantage. So Dallas for the moment, stays alive for

2145
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 7: the NFC East title, stays alive for the three seed.

2146
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 7: And to clarify, yes, the Lions' lead late was cost

2147
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 7: not necessarily the game because Dallas has a kicker who

2148
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 7: literally has not missed a kick this year, not an

2149
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 7: extra point, not a field goal attempt he'd hit from

2150
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 7: fifty one in the second half tonight on that same field.

2151
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 7: He hit a sixty yarder this month against Philadelphia. Brandon

2152
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 7: Aubrey has been everything they've needed at the kicker spot.

2153
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 7: Former Notre Dame soccer player Dallas would have had twenty

2154
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 7: three seconds for its final drive. And it bears repeating

2155
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 7: that coach Dan Campbell continued to go for two at

2156
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 7: the end even when his team was being pushed back by,

2157
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 7: for example, that five yard penalty on the quote ineligible

2158
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:56,480
Speaker 7: lineman catching the pass. Dan Campbell followed, correctly, the analytics

2159
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 7: when you're at the two yard line going for two late,

2160
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 7: when you're at the seven, the analytics do not say

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01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 7: go for it, and he did back to.

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01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 2: You, thank you very much, Steve Di Sager, have a

2163
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 2: great evening. To Sager, I will be in with you

2164
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 2: and Arnie Spanier tomorrow. Rumor is that Chris Plank is

2165
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 2: still so upset about the Alamo bole that he is unavailable.

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01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 2: But I will see you tomorrow. I'll be in with

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01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 2: Arnie New Year's Eve, rocket, New Year's Eve with Arnie Spanier.

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01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: All right, really quickly, Jason, because we're up against it

2169
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: a little bit, but we did mention the end to

2170
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Seger just mentioned. Sixty three to three in the Orange Bowl,

2171
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Florida State loses to Georgia. The headline, of course, Georgia

2172
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: or excuse me, Florida State was essentially down like thirty

2173
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 2: players from the end of the regular season. We know

2174
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: the story coming into this game, not only the number

2175
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,440
Speaker 2: of players that they were down, but certainly the frustration

2176
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 2: with being left out of the college football playoff as

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01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 2: an undefeated ACC champion. I know, I mean, we all

2178
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts, but but but what do

2179
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 2: you make of the debac in Miami today?

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01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,719
Speaker 1: It was just unfortunate. It was bad for college football.

2181
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 1: It was unwatchable, and I mean, I kind of you

2182
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: look at kind of what Kirby Smart had to say

2183
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: about it, and he said, this is a quote after

2184
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 1: the game. He said, people need to see what happened tonight.

2185
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: They need to fix this. It needs to be fixed.

2186
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate that they have a good football team

2187
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: and a good football program and they're in the position

2188
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: that they're in. Now what he's saying is accurate. It's

2189
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: also going to be irrelevant next year because of everything

2190
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: that's happening, and I think that I think you're kind

2191
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: of on the same page with me. My biggest thought

2192
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: watching this and thinking about it, it was on my

2193
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: mind afterwards a good bit. This one game and this

2194
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: the way this all played out. You have the opportunity

2195
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: if you're Florida State, if you're those players who have well,

2196
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean you could say they've whined, but they've certainly complained,

2197
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: and they've been very ornery since what happened to them.

2198
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: You have a chance to shut people's mouths by showing

2199
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: up and equating yourselves against a team that I think

2200
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: many still believe is the best team in the country,

2201
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they're not going to be in

2202
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: the college football playoff because they lost in the SEC

2203
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 1: championship game by three. You had a chance to validate

2204
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: anybody that said you deserve to be in there over

2205
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: in Alabama or over a Texas or whatever. And instead

2206
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: you had a bunch of guys opt out to go

2207
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: ahead and prepare for the NFL Draft. You showed up

2208
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: with twenty nine I think scholarship players that were not

2209
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 1: a part of the roster, including several starters, key guys

2210
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: on your team, and you got absolutely embarrassed and humiliated instead.

2211
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,599
Speaker 1: And now it just opens up the well they didn't

2212
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: deserve to be their argument, which I don't know that

2213
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: I completely agree with, but I will say this, if

2214
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: they had everybody playing in this game, I still think

2215
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: Georgia wins it by twenty because I just didn't think

2216
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: Florida State was that good.

2217
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 2: And when I say everyone does that, does it does

2218
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: that include Jordan Travis or No, obviously not Jordan Travis.

2219
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Right, I still think even if Jordan Travis's playing, they

2220
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: still beat him pretty pretty convincingly. But at the same time,

2221
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a much different team, and that's that's

2222
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: that's just me speaking hypothetically. Without Jordan Travis, they didn't

2223
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: have a chance in the world of beating Georgia, in

2224
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 1: my opinion, and they didn't even attempt it. So either

2225
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: they knew that or it just didn't didn't matter to them.

2226
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they have to be loyal to

2227
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: Florida State or whatever. I mean, they're there for a

2228
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: time and they have to prepare for their future, and

2229
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: I understand all of those things. But they did have

2230
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity here that they decided to punt on.

2231
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 2: I basically agree with everything I mean I I think,

2232
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 2: and I'll just try to keep this brief. There's like,

2233
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 2: first of all, I was a little bit surprised about

2234
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: the discourse around this game. And what I mean by

2235
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: that is, I'm not surprised that social media that whatever

2236
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,759
Speaker 2: you're dance was coming into this game.

2237
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:05,600
Speaker 3: That was your reaction watching it.

2238
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 2: Right, So if you believe, if you're a Florida State

2239
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 2: fan that believes that the powers that be just screwed

2240
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: you because they love the SEC and they hate your school,

2241
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 2: then this game meant absolutely nothing and I couldn't care

2242
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 2: less whatever. If you're a person that didn't believe Florida

2243
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 2: State should be there in the first place, all this

2244
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 2: proved everything. I'll just wrap this conversation by saying very

2245
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 2: simply this, I think all these things are true. I

2246
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 2: think that you can feel really bad for Florida State.

2247
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 2: It was a very unfortunate situation. I also think you

2248
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 2: can say that the committee probably got it right because,

2249
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 2: as you said, like you said, take out Jordan Travis,

2250
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 2: he couldn't have played in this game physically, but all

2251
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,759
Speaker 2: the other guys could have. Even with all those guys.

2252
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: We saw them struggle to beat Louisville without Jordan Travis.

2253
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 2: The committee got it right. Bottom line is on top

2254
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 2: of that, the Florida State also spent way too much

2255
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 2: time whining credits Georgia. All of their guys that could

2256
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 2: play in this game essentially did. Brock Bowers didn't play,

2257
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 2: but he was banged up. Pretty much everybody else did.

2258
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 2: But lastly, I just didn't understand the anger at the system.

2259
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 2: Knowing that we have a twelve team playoff coming. It sucks.

2260
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 2: You feel awful for Florida State, and you hate that

2261
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 2: the game was miserable because so many guys opted out.

2262
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: But I just can't get angry. I'm more angry at

2263
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 2: the reaction that I am at the game because.

2264
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,759
Speaker 3: I know that this is never gonna happen again.

2265
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 2: There's never going to be a team that's this good,

2266
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: that has this legitimate of an argument, that is going

2267
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 2: to be left out ever again. I'm looking at the

2268
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the final rankings right now. The final

2269
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 2: rankings of the College Football Playoff this year, Oklahoma was

2270
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 2: twelve and LSU was thirteen, And so I just bring

2271
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 2: it up because LSU was terrible. People were mad that

2272
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels even won the Heisman, let alone keeping them

2273
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: in the playoff. Oklahoma just lost to Arizona, and so

2274
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because those are the teams

2275
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 2: that are going to be left out. There will never

2276
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 2: ever be another situation like Florida State, And I just

2277
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 2: don't understand why people are so mad knowing that. So

2278
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 2: we could come back, we could discuss that, and we

2279
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: got to make our college football playoff picks. But I

2280
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: was just very confused by that angle of it. We'll

2281
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 2: come back, We'll wrap the Florida State conversation, make our

2282
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 2: college football playoff picks.

2283
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Trading.

2284
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 2: Preston from Ohio. You're on Fox Sports Radio. We appear

2285
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 2: appreciate you waiting. What was your takeaway from what we

2286
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: saw tonight?

2287
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 14: There's no problem with Torres. Look, I'm a Bengal, I'm

2288
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 14: a buck Eye, and I'm sitting in the er. I

2289
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 14: slammed my hands so.

2290
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 10: Hard on the bar I broke my wrist.

2291
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 14: What I'm serious, very serious.

2292
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 10: That is the most egregious call I've ever seen.

2293
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 3: That was Preston and Ohio. Preston might still be listening

2294
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 3: in the er.

2295
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 2: We appreciate the call, and that was also the progressive

2296
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 2: play of the day. Shout out to Preston. The Progressive

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Speaker 1: You believe that happened? I? I, well, I mean, you

2303
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 1: believe he was really calling from the er.

2304
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he did sit on hold for a while,

2305
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 2: so he clearly wasn't doing anything better.

2306
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying he didn't. I'm just I'm just

2307
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: asking a question.

2308
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: But he also did claim that he threw up twice

2309
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 2: last night watching the Buckeye.

2310
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: Now that part I don't believe, but I think he

2311
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: might have been. I just I don't know that that

2312
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: casts doubt on the first assertion, but it definitely makes

2313
01:56:59,440 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: you wonder.

2314
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate everybody.

2315
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 2: First of all, Jason, I'm not gonna lie man like

2316
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I just went twelve rounds in a

2317
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 2: heavyweight bout, like cause you know, it's easy now to

2318
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 2: see that the ref screwed up, but in real time

2319
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out what's going on and what

2320
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 2: is this? And Dan Campbell said this, but is it true?

2321
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 2: And it's like it took probably a solid like forty

2322
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 2: minutes for us to figure out what was actually going on.

2323
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 2: So for everybody that called in, for everybody that tuned in,

2324
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: we appreciate your support.

2325
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 3: A couple of nice calls, a couple nice tweets. Excuse me.

2326
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 2: T Barone says, I listened to the Lions play play

2327
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 2: by play and postgame as well as your show. Great

2328
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 2: job by you guys on handling all that happened tonight,

2329
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: especially at the end of the game. Brandon Body says,

2330
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: the referees in the NFL are an utter disgrace. Darryl

2331
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 2: Griffith says, either of you dudes remember the ref that

2332
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 2: screwed up the coin toss in ot with Jerome Bettis.

2333
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 2: I believe that game was in Detroit. Well, I don't

2334
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 2: remember his name. These dudes are teflon. His name would

2335
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 2: come up immediately with the words NFL coin toss innafu Jason,

2336
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 2: I do want to get circle your college football playoff

2337
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: picks here?

2338
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 3: In just a moment.

2339
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 2: But what do you think happens tomorrow or Monday from

2340
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 2: the NFL? Do do we get at least a statement

2341
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 2: from the league that says we screwed up? They have

2342
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 2: to at least Really it won't be satisfying, but they

2343
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 2: have to at least release a statement.

2344
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Right boy, I don't know. I don't know if this

2345
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: is just going to be cya time and they're really

2346
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 1: not going to say anything outside of there was a

2347
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: lot of confusion on the play. It's somehow it's gonna

2348
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 1: be phrased in a way that it's actually the Lion's fault.

2349
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm just not that they did something like nefarious. Somehow

2350
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: this is going to be framed as if Detroit Detroit

2351
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 1: made an error here by not making something clear enough

2352
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 1: or something like that. It's going to be defending Brad Allen.

2353
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I.

2354
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 3: So, I actual actually tend to agree.

2355
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, and I get like you

2356
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 2: want uniformity from the league and the you know whatever,

2357
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 2: but somebody has to say somebody screwed up. The listener

2358
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 2: said it best about an hour ago, and he said, look,

2359
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 2: even Jim Joyce blew a no hitter for Armando Galarraga.

2360
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 2: He came back the next day and said, I just

2361
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: screwed it up, and I think there'd be like a

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Speaker 2: little bit of not only obvious nobility in it, but

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Speaker 2: I think it would actually make the league look good

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Speaker 2: if we just got a simple apology, a simple statement.

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Speaker 3: Whatever. Jason, really quick, before we get out of here.

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Speaker 2: You and I will be filling in for Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: and Mike Harmon on Monday night eleven or ten pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: We will be coming on during the Sugar Bowl. Will

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Speaker 2: have your full post game coverage. Really quickly, give me

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Speaker 2: your two scores for the college football Playoffs semi finals

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Speaker 2: on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna stick with my gut and say Texas

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Speaker 1: beach Washington. But Washington talking to talking like they've got

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Speaker 1: the chip on their shoulders scares me. I'll take Texas

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Speaker 1: thirty five thirty one over Washington and what I think

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Speaker 1: will be an excellent game. And I'm gonna take Alabama

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Speaker 1: forty one twenty eight over Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, We're gonna have plenty to talk about

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Speaker 2: it on Monday. Because one of us is gonna be right,

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Speaker 2: one of us canna be wrong. I have Michigan twenty

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Speaker 2: four to fourteen over Alabama, and I have Washington thirty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty four over Texas. We'll be on at

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Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern Time to discuss it all. Thanks to

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