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Speaker 1: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Anthony dor set De, Montrey More and newly Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday and a busy Tuesday here at

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Speaker 2: the Star in Frisco. You are in the players Lounge,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Aristocratic Game. We've got Anthony door

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Speaker 2: Set in the house, former NFL player and the son

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Speaker 2: of the legend the thirty three, the original thirty three

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Speaker 2: was getting down before everybody, Tony Dorseet. We've got Barry

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Speaker 2: Church in the house. Former Cowboys Saints. You here probably

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Speaker 2: could have used your four five players brothers running free,

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Speaker 2: I mean people setting career once again, once career highs

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Speaker 2: being set against that Cowboy defenses. The Cowboys get beat

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Speaker 2: by the Arizona Cardinals twenty seven to seventeen. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. I picked the Cardinals. I'm like, this

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Speaker 2: is a bad team. You're gonna get this done. I

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Speaker 2: was wrong, wrong? Wrong? You right?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think we all picked that. Yes, in

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Speaker 3: this situation, we was all wrong, man, and I was

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Speaker 3: over here talking about you the more talented team. There's

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Speaker 3: no way you let this one slide, like you gotta

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Speaker 3: get this. And man, the Arizona Cardinals came in here and.

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Speaker 2: Just physically beat the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: They looked like the more talented team again again, And

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Speaker 3: at what point does this team get punched in the

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Speaker 3: mouth and respond like, where's the CounterPunch out?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: They started a little bit fast, then fourth down, turn

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Speaker 3: it overs on downs, then after that they never recovered

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Speaker 3: from the game.

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Speaker 2: And to me, it's just like, where's the adjustments? What's

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Speaker 2: going on? Offensive line is struggling.

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Speaker 3: Earlier in the season that was a strength, a surprising strength,

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Speaker 3: it was. But your offensive line is struggling. Yet you

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Speaker 3: continue doing these you know, five step deep developing routes

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Speaker 3: where that got to hold the ball a little bit longer.

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Speaker 3: Your offensive line is not holding up and defenses are

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Speaker 3: taking advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: They're only rushing forward getting home and they're muddying up

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Speaker 2: all the windows back there in the secondary in the

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Speaker 2: second level. For Dad Prescott, you know, to me, this

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Speaker 2: is this it's just it's an outstanding to me when

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Speaker 2: I look at this, and I'm on the defensive side

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Speaker 2: of the football.

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Speaker 3: Now, how bad it can be. And I was a

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Speaker 3: part of some bad defense. I was a part of

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Speaker 3: some defenses that gave up a lot of yards. But

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Speaker 3: we at least had fight there. We at least fought.

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Speaker 2: Say the word, say the word, you know you want

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Speaker 2: to say it can't do this. I can't. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's gutless. I can't. I didn't say. Look, look, man,

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Speaker 2: that was gutless effort. Bro. You knew they knew what

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Speaker 2: they had to do. You knew what you had to

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Speaker 2: do at home. They came out here, Jacobe said, out

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Speaker 2: here looking like Tom Feeling giving him work.

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Speaker 4: The boy that fumbled the mark was the running back then,

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Speaker 4: yeah he was out there. They look they look good

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Speaker 4: coming in here. I mean it was. It was a

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Speaker 4: total team yeah, total team effort for them, both sides

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Speaker 4: of the ball. You know, like you try to figure

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Speaker 4: out what happened to you know, George Pickens and CD

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Speaker 4: and you sitting back there, like where are they at?

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Speaker 4: Just like you said, every route is taking so long.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to hit deep balls. We're trying to hit

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Speaker 4: you know, like these pass routes that are taken so

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Speaker 4: long for them to develop, and unfortunately it's not coming

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Speaker 4: to fluishing it up.

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Speaker 2: But where was it? Wredak was not getting killed? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: bro that offensive line, that offensive line, he supposedly got healthier.

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Speaker 5: This is this book. This was five sacks money.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is remody a Carolina Carolina game where they

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Speaker 2: beat you up front all night long after the first drive,

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Speaker 2: to beat you up all night long and here to

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Speaker 2: me are right. This is where the part of me

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Speaker 2: just says, Hey, I'm sorry. Your offensive coordinator was with

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Speaker 2: who last year Arizona? So you don't know what to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't know what. You don't know what the DC

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Speaker 2: gonna do. You know what, you don't know what they

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Speaker 2: like to do. This is embarrassing, gutless, brotless at home

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Speaker 2: when you needed it before the Bible. You guys played

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Speaker 2: in the league. So what's it like with you go

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Speaker 2: to Bibele and not just going about you going to

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Speaker 2: bibe we get smacked.

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Speaker 3: It sucks because that's the week you're supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: I don't relaxing of care in the world. No football.

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Speaker 3: I'm chilling. You ain't on no wind streak. Not only

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Speaker 3: that you got embarrassed primetime television Monday night, everybody watching

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Speaker 3: this versus a team that pretty much everybody picked you to.

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Speaker 4: Win bye week, you might get to take the pads

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Speaker 4: off a little bit, you know what I'm saying, winning

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Speaker 4: if you're playing well. Unfortunately for the Cowboys, I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're gonna get to take the pads off this week.

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Speaker 5: They might actually have.

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Speaker 4: To scrimmage squash going on for real.

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Speaker 5: Tobo, Hey, I ain't nothing more of that, but.

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Speaker 2: You might not want to be seen like I'm getting

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Speaker 2: embarrassed like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm at the crib, like, don't ask

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Speaker 3: me to go out, don't ask me to be seen out.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not doing none of that.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to show up at the club, no restaurants.

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Speaker 2: Is that church that the guy that was missing technically hey.

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Speaker 4: Guys' ady o, Hey let me tell you. And in

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Speaker 4: Oakland that team that the fans felt like they were

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Speaker 4: that personal with the team, So you know, the town

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Speaker 4: is a little bit different anyway.

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Speaker 5: So you out there, it's black right, you're not having business.

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Speaker 4: You don't handle your business on the field, then people

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Speaker 4: gonna let you know out in the public black Town.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they ain't got no problem.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna let you know real.

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Speaker 2: And let you say something back. You ain't say nothing, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: They was cracking up. You ain't, man, you want to

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Speaker 2: get me to work that you didn't want to get

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Speaker 4: But that was it was, It was, it was. It

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Speaker 4: was really tough watching that man. And as I'm sitting

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Speaker 4: at home and and you know, all week were talking

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Speaker 4: about this is a game that you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Gotta, I gotta have.

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Speaker 5: You gotta get, we believed it. Oh my god, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm going man, I'm done.

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Speaker 4: And it was like after the third, after the third

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Speaker 4: third down completion that they got, and everything was third

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Speaker 4: and ten, third and twelve, third and fourteen or whatever,

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Speaker 4: and they're and they're marching down the field.

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Speaker 5: I was like, hey this.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to just come on to chat and be

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Speaker 4: like hey this, this ac't looking good. But I tried

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Speaker 2: Just say third and thirteen, third and nineteen.

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Speaker 3: I've seen to pick up a second and nineteen with

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Speaker 3: to me, it was just like it was an embarrassing

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Speaker 3: lounch like y'all said. And when you look at it,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at this secondary and I understand you say

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Speaker 3: these are down to the third and fourth string, no digs,

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Speaker 3: no slot corner.

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Speaker 2: But you look at Bland, not ninety two mil bro.

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Speaker 2: This is all pro corner. He was getting picked on

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Speaker 2: just as much or not more tagged up than all

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Speaker 4: We talked about that, all us alone out there routing

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Speaker 2: And this is blad. This it's the best you got.

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Speaker 2: You're getting routed up. Man. See the lamb up there

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Speaker 2: when he when he when.

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Speaker 4: He lost, Yes, when he lost his footing on on

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Speaker 4: that slant. And I know what was going through his

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Speaker 4: But uh, when he went to put that foot in the.

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Speaker 5: Ground and then it wasn't there wasn't there no more.

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Speaker 5: You've you've rarely seen that happen.

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Speaker 2: It didn't this whole process. Now were these corners?

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Speaker 3: Because I don't understand it personally, You in press coverage.

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Speaker 3: The reason for press coverage, if I'm not wrong, you

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Speaker 3: gotta get hands.

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Speaker 2: Yes, why are these corners?

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Speaker 3: There's impress coverage, but they're not using their hands. They're

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Speaker 3: just kind of mirroring them with the feet.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, nobody wants to use their hands anymore.

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Speaker 4: And like, I don't understand the process of it either.

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Speaker 4: What's the purpose of getting down there first of all,

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Speaker 4: if you're not gonna stay square and you're just gonna

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Speaker 4: open the gate and turn it into a foot race.

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Speaker 2: And at that point we always say if he even

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Speaker 2: he's leaving, all right, So it was bad. This is

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Speaker 2: this is the drive charge for the Cowboys. Jeezu downs,

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Speaker 2: punt fumble, missfield goal, halftime, field goal downs, touchdown, fumble, interception.

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Speaker 2: This is the drives, baby nine drives. Just go off

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Speaker 2: a touchdown to the fourth court. But there's help on

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Speaker 2: the way, oh Man Gerald Wayne Jones meant business when

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Speaker 2: it went on first take with Stephen A. Smith before

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Speaker 2: the team got embarrassed and said there's gonna be a trade.

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Speaker 2: There was a trade, and that's early this morning. The

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Speaker 2: Cowboys traded for linebacker Logan Wilson. He only comes from

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Speaker 2: the team that has the worst defense in the league, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and was pitched there.

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Speaker 5: He was benched there on the worst defense right in

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Speaker 5: the league.

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna get him for a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 2: So and that's next year. So there we got, all right,

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Speaker 2: that ain't a bad one. So so he's coming to town.

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Speaker 2: He's better than which he you know, from last place

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Speaker 2: defense is the second to last place defense. So okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's one one. But this defense is so bad.

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Speaker 2: He's might be the best you got. He definitely gonna

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Speaker 2: be the best line back your head question. So then

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Speaker 2: they made the major trade for Quinn Williams, defense tackle

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Speaker 2: for the New York Jets' twenty eight years old three

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Speaker 2: time pro bowler. They're going to give up a twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six second round pick and a twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 2: first round pick. Wait, so that's one of your first

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Speaker 2: from that whole Green Bay Michael Parsons. From what I

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Speaker 2: can tell right now, this looks like it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the Cowboys. Oh okay there, but you're keeping your

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Speaker 2: two ones next year right now, twenty twenty six, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have your two ones yours in Green Bay. You're

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Speaker 2: not gonna have a second round pick, now, have a

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Speaker 2: third round pick right now. That's what you got going

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Speaker 2: on there. Now. Quinn Williams was the guy that had

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Speaker 2: major interest in before the Michael Parsons trade. But the

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Speaker 2: Jets didn't want to do that deal. They want to

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Speaker 2: know parts of it, which I can understand from the

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Speaker 2: standpoint of, hey, look we get Michael Parsons. I had

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Speaker 2: to give up major picks and pay a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: something they didn't want to do. I'm just unloading picks,

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Speaker 2: I mean unloading players today for picks. A Sauce Gardener,

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Speaker 2: they're outstanding quarters now going to the Colts for two

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Speaker 2: first rounds, which is nothing. Yeah, he's a good player,

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Speaker 2: but two first rounders. But I guess they think they're ready. Hey, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: you know what, So the Jet the Jets have been

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Speaker 2: making moves today, been making moves today. So good luck

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Speaker 4: So you know, we've already said that they weren't a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when it comes to me, you know, Logan Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Not so much this year.

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Speaker 2: But for the future, I think I think it's starting

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Speaker 2: Ain't no way, bro. Only the Cowboys consider around here.

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Speaker 2: They've always got a lot of guest players out here

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Speaker 2: who like the tree. It's it's pretty cool, man. I

434
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Speaker 2: got to give the organization their props on that. It's

435
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Speaker 2: one of those things that I know I look forward to.

436
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Speaker 2: So we've got some clarification on the Quinn williamship. By

437
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Speaker 2: the way, this is the player's line Spider Battery scrat

438
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Speaker 2: gaming Barry Church from NFL player, Anthony Dorset from NFL

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Speaker 2: player's son of the Hall of Fame legend Tony Dorset TD.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching, man, we love you. I'm newly scrutch. Okay, So,

441
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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams, that's the biggest trade of the day that

442
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys got. They made too. But Quinn Williams twenty

443
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Speaker 2: eight years old, three time Pro Bowl So they're giving

444
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Speaker 2: up a twenty twenty six second round drafting. They're also

445
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Speaker 2: giving up a twenty twenty seven first round pick, and

446
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Speaker 2: according to NFL dot Com, the Jets will receive the

447
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Speaker 2: higher of the two picks. So whether it's Green Bays

448
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Speaker 2: or Dallas's pick in twenty twenty seven, they get to

449
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Speaker 2: have that pick, which is fair. You know, we're gonna

450
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Speaker 2: make them wait a year to get it. That that's fair.

451
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Speaker 2: So yeah, man, that's that's so. So that's what they

452
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Speaker 2: got going on there. Logan Wilson, linebacker from Cincinnati comes

453
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Speaker 2: on over here, so he's here as well. So this

454
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Speaker 2: is kind of before we get your pointed out, this

455
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Speaker 2: is kind of what the defense is looking like right now,

456
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Speaker 2: is they get ready to go. They got a bye

457
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Speaker 2: week this week, and what looks like it's Vegas defensive

458
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Speaker 2: end to Davian Clowning defensive tackle, Quinny Williams defensive tackle.

459
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Speaker 2: So Diggis or Kenny Clark. I'm just gonna say, probably

460
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Speaker 2: gonna be Kenny Clark start right there. Defensive end. Donovant

461
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Speaker 2: as a rock the rookie we've been playing better. He

462
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Speaker 2: has been like he has been playing team Dog team

463
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Speaker 2: Megan Man, Uh, your linebackers, we're looking up for Vegas

464
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Speaker 2: Marrion Overshawn Logan Wilson if that he can come back,

465
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Speaker 2: and that's that's that's your three corners issue right there.

466
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Speaker 2: Darron Bland care are you long? Don't look like that?

467
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Speaker 2: Stop it corner? Kayla Carson or Ready Stewart. With your

468
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Speaker 2: safeties being Malie Hooker and Donnald Wilson, that's what your

469
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Speaker 2: defense could potentially be.

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Speaker 3: Which is better than what we've seeing on paper on papers,

471
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Speaker 3: better than what we see.

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Speaker 2: I still am worried. About that secondary, man.

473
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Speaker 3: I mean I'm looking at that like your best quarter

474
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Speaker 3: ain't supposed to be getting done like that.

475
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Speaker 2: And I can see, you know.

476
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Speaker 3: A play here and there, everybody gets got but when

477
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Speaker 3: you consistently getting getting stretched on by these these offenses,

478
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Speaker 3: that's not a good Uh, that's.

479
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Speaker 2: Not a good situation. Not for millions a lot of buggets, Chris,

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Speaker 2: Chris being Does the Cowboys have an official bread sponsor?

481
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Speaker 2: They got sponsor everybody you know, they got the official

482
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Speaker 2: oil chain. Good question. I mean, is it like Missus

483
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Speaker 2: Basil had or the King's Hawaii? We do have a

484
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Speaker 2: hat sponsor for the secondary is a Swiss cheese. Cheese.

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Speaker 5: It's bad out there. It is awful, it is all

486
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Speaker 5: I mean.

487
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Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett is a lifelong backup who's on the sixteen man.

488
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Speaker 2: He's this is a guy who just goes around, will work.

489
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Speaker 2: And they're like, okay, come on, I mean that's what

490
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Speaker 2: we're talking about here. This isn't Joe Burrow. This ain't

491
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Speaker 2: the Beangles. No, this isn't.

492
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Speaker 4: He's always been serviceable, if not more than serviceable. He's

493
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Speaker 4: a great game manager when he's had the opportunity to

494
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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 2: But you know. Yeah, it's like but Russ. Okay, Russ

496
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Speaker 2: comes in here, throws four fifty, he gets benched. That's

497
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Speaker 2: how right, that's how. That's how this thing. Caleb Williams

498
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Speaker 2: career highs. Everybody looking I mean, dudes looking good.

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Speaker 4: At some point in time, you gotta be sick and

500
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Speaker 4: tired of being sick and tired. Some some gotta happen.

501
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Speaker 4: This is the damning thing for the Cowboys. Okay, the

502
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Speaker 4: Cardinals had.

503
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Speaker 2: Lost four straight games. They come here, Jacoby Brissett leaves

504
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Speaker 2: here and they got a quarterback controversy. That's how good

505
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Speaker 2: you made him look. He may sit kind of twenty

506
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Speaker 2: six million dollars a court. They may not go back

507
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Speaker 2: to him. That's that's how. That's what the cowboy d made. Man.

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Speaker 4: But we've seen we've seen that, and we've talked. We

509
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Speaker 4: talked about it. We said, hey, hopefully they don't come

510
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Speaker 4: in here.

511
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Speaker 5: And have their career game.

512
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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 4: Look exactly what happened, man, you know. And as far

514
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Speaker 4: as like, you know, people get beat at the line

515
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Speaker 4: all the time. That's just part of bumping run. How

516
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Speaker 4: many times have you ever seen a guy actually lose

517
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Speaker 4: his footing do a tumble over and everything else like that.

518
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Speaker 4: That that that was just to the place where like

519
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Speaker 4: I've seen dudes totally missed with hands. I've seen thus

520
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: but just the whole somersault and fall thing that that

521
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Speaker 4: you get.

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Speaker 2: Up with the handclapp just ain't nothing you can do it.

523
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: You can do about that one.

524
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Speaker 5: Now you can do about that.

525
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Speaker 3: And when you and we all understand when when that,

526
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Speaker 3: when that pay scale is like that, well, you can't

527
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Speaker 3: be out there looking like that like T k New

528
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Speaker 3: played with him for a long time, one of the

529
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Speaker 3: highest paid corners, and he ain't not like you.

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Speaker 2: You wasn't getting you wasn't getting done like that. You

531
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Speaker 2: might get beat, but you wasn't getting done like that, man.

532
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Speaker 3: And it's it's ugly and back to what I was

533
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Speaker 3: talking about with the scheme wise that I just can't.

534
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Speaker 2: I can't stand it anymore.

535
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Speaker 3: He putting these guys like it's the basics of what

536
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: these guys aren't doing out there. That's just like, wait

537
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Speaker 3: a second, what are we doing guys like It's it's

538
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: simple if you're a press man coverage, but you're not

539
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: getting hands on guys. You're just letting them run run.

540
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Fits like it's the basic things that are killing his defense.

541
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Speaker 3: And I and I still just I don't understand it

542
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Speaker 3: when you just look at the pre snap because even

543
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Speaker 3: on these ESPN and NBC and ABC gag you see

544
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Speaker 3: all twenty two players in there and they'll tighten it up,

545
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Speaker 3: but everybody, no one's talking. It's like it's like you're

546
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Speaker 3: in churches and everybody's just like this, not saying a

547
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Speaker 3: word to one another.

548
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Speaker 2: And I don't know how you play football like that.

549
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Speaker 4: It's been one of the hardest things to deal with

550
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: just to watch because you know, like we're talking about

551
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: get the communication together, then they change communication.

552
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Speaker 5: We hear that they're working on that.

553
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: Then it's okay, let's get away from so much zone

554
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: and let's start running some man. It does not matter,

555
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: just like you said, it does not matter what the

556
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: scheme has been. It does not matter what the defense

557
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: with the communication has been, the lack of it or whatever.

558
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: Guys are not making plays, period. They're not making plays.

559
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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you would imagine

560
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: that if it ain't nothing else but a hustle play, man,

561
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 4: just let me get a hustle plate heart play or something.

562
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Speaker 5: We ain't even get none of that.

563
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Speaker 2: That's when you come and say it's gutless. If you

564
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: can't give me your heart, can't get nobody effort running.

565
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Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I'm just watching his team run

566
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Speaker 2: up and down the field on them like they had

567
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Speaker 2: Arizona pin back. I want to say, like a five

568
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Speaker 2: six yard line.

569
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Speaker 4: I want man the first that drive when they're on

570
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Speaker 4: fourth down, when the Cowboys didn't get the first down,

571
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Speaker 4: Arizona got the ball, like the three get.

572
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Speaker 2: All the way down the field. Man.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm like with cats that, like we said, they're

574
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Speaker 3: not going against Jamar Chase t Higgins. They're not going

575
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Speaker 3: against you know, the Seattle outfit offensively or the Colts

576
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Speaker 3: of what they're doing with well, it was going against

577
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Speaker 3: the guys that couldn't finish.

578
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Speaker 2: So Jerry on his radio show today on one to

579
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Speaker 2: five three the Fan said that he made a mistake

580
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Speaker 2: and having three different defensive coordinators in three years, he

581
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: said he made a mistake there.

582
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Speaker 5: And so you know flu saying nowhere.

583
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Speaker 2: And as I listened to that, Seattle by the way,

584
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: so I've got team right now right Seattle first place

585
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: defense rolling over there. Their defensive coordinator was where last

586
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: he was Aidenden. Yeah, he was here, the Washington defensive coordinator.

587
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: It has been there the last two yos. He was here.

588
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: So you have had two guys who were with dan

589
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Quinn who knew the scheme, and you like dan Quinn,

590
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Joe wanted the job, Dirty would have taken the job

591
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: to be a DC, people who understood the scheme, and

592
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: you let him get out the building to go bring

593
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Speaker 2: in Mike Zimmer. I like Mike zimmer a d you like,

594
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: and Barry we all like him. But this scheme d

595
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Q was running is not Zimmer's skiing. No, it's not

596
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Speaker 2: at all. And so you had the issue there. Now

597
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: you bring in mad ebra Flus and once again third

598
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: different just so people have an understanding. All these defensive

599
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: coordinators have different ideas about how they want it. You

600
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: know what you say, it's a four four to three D.

601
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Speaker 2: But everybody's got a different idea of what it is

602
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: they want to do. Mm hm variables right, I mean,

603
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: just think about it. If you want to sing a song,

604
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Speaker 2: take pick your favorite song. You gonna do a little

605
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Speaker 2: you know, you gonna do a remake of it. You're

606
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: gonna do a little Different're gonna do what fits you.

607
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: You know, so it and that's the problem. It doesn't

608
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: fit and you got guys who don't fit here. And

609
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: Donovan Wilson is a good football player. It was a

610
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Speaker 2: really good football player under Dan Quinn. The way he

611
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Speaker 2: fit him in the system right now with Mattiberflussy doesn't

612
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Speaker 2: look good.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at it, another guy they let

614
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Speaker 3: go out of the door. Who Diggs had his best

615
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: season under. Bland had his best season under was Al Harris.

616
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy that you know, he

617
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Speaker 3: played the position at a very high level for a long.

618
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Speaker 2: Time, gotten the coaching in they had their best years.

619
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Speaker 2: Our Harris would have loved to have been a defensive

620
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Speaker 2: courtn You know, you better believe Al Harris was under

621
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Speaker 2: Dan Quinn. Now Harris knew what was going with the defense.

622
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Speaker 2: And so one of the things I say is, ka,

623
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Speaker 2: we all think the forty nine ers are good football team,

624
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Speaker 2: right Okay. So along the way as Kyle Shanahan has

625
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: lost guys, he's promoted people from within. Everybody knows what

626
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Speaker 2: they're doing. They all know what they're doing. You're not

627
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: going out here bringing different people.

628
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Speaker 4: But you know, the only thing about that is like

629
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Speaker 4: we talk about the guys who were knew dan quinn stuff,

630
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Speaker 4: but I know Flues came in here, want to run

631
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: Flu stuff, you know. So at the same time, like

632
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: you have these guys who are familiar with dan Quinn's

633
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: whole scheme and the way he ran his defense. Eve

634
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: Flush won't come in here and put in his ebra

635
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Flu's defense, right, and so so it doesn't you know,

636
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: like so to have them guys now, granted you just

637
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: named a couple of ballers, they were pretty good dudes

638
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: too as well. Not to mention Al Harris was a good,

639
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: great player and a good coach, but just to just

640
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: to see that and to try to understand, Okay, we

641
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: keep talking about you haven't had the tools that you

642
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: need to go to war with yet.

643
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Speaker 5: So so all.

644
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Speaker 2: Right, so here here's and I guess, as you followed

645
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: up on this, one of the things Jerry has always

646
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: been adamant about ad was having to keep the same offense,

647
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Speaker 2: keep running. I don't want dak to change. I want

648
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Speaker 2: you to keep doing we're doing offensively. So this this

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Speaker 2: mindset and philosophy you have had for offense, you won't

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Speaker 2: continue it. One of the reasons why he wanted to

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Speaker 2: don't want to change what's going on here. I liked

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Speaker 2: what he liked that thing, and so here it is

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Speaker 2: always wanted to make sure there's continuity and Dak feels good.

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Speaker 2: You look at the defense they put anybody back there

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Speaker 2: so you could say, hey, Jerry didn't want to he

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Speaker 2: didn't want to hire a first time defensive coordinator, but

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Speaker 2: you've done it with your offensive coordinator, Clayton. Clayton, I

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Speaker 2: don't even be no dophinsive coordinator. Kellen Moore hadn't been

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Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. Jason Garrett had not been an offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator when he got the job here. So you have you.

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Speaker 2: There's a hypocrisy thing going on here. Now. One of

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Speaker 2: to this thing. There was continuity here in a system

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Speaker 2: that Jerry liked. He liked what they were doing then

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Speaker 2: you go and bring it outside. People like that, and

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Speaker 2: if we're being fair to them, they need to be

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Speaker 2: able to do what they want to do. If we're

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Speaker 2: being fair to them. I mean, if I'm gonna hire

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Speaker 2: Anthony Dorset, I need to look at Anthony Dorset's resume

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Speaker 2: and say, Anthony, can you give me this what you

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Speaker 2: brought to me that I hired you for?

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Speaker 4: Right, don't expect me to come in here and be

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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn for you. It ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Especially we don't have an eracer. I mean the racer

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Speaker 2: you had walk out the door, thank you. He would have,

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Speaker 2: he would have.

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Speaker 3: He would have fixed a lot of issues, but you

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear Jerry at least owned up to it.

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Speaker 2: But now, okay, I'll give you my opinion on what

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I'll just give you my thoughts

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Speaker 2: the way, is five and three, tied with Detroit for

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Speaker 2: second place, just half game back from green Bay, playing

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Speaker 2: playing well too, playing well defense.

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Speaker 5: They came up here, got some momentum with Kevin rolling.

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Speaker 2: The lead. The cowwarys is just hey, who was rolling?

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Speaker 2: Just keep moving? One of my partners from business school,

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Speaker 2: big Chicago fan. All he do. I tried to tell you,

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Speaker 2: even if it was terrible, tried to tell you, I

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Speaker 2: just get What can he say? What can you saying

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Speaker 2: when when folk like this smoking, I got nothing. I

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Speaker 2: got nothing like like you guys are finding out. You

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Speaker 2: told me it was gonna be okay, but I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, so not good? All right? So yeah, well

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Speaker 2: yes and no this man bet me. Harry Church showed

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Speaker 2: me the games. I said, man, ain't looking ten games.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Nick and Sam's on you. So so yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm I'm they lose one more, right, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: they got what they lose one more? They be what

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Speaker 2: are they right now? Three five and one? Yeah? Yeah

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Speaker 2: they got yeah the most they can be. They taxing

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Speaker 2: one yeah, cowboys want to buy. And up next it's

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Speaker 2: the Raiders, Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers, Commanders, Giants.

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Speaker 3: I can't count on none of They ain't beating the

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Speaker 3: Raiders before. I was gonna be like, oh yeah, you

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Speaker 3: got to you know, a couple possible. All that's possible.

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Speaker 3: All that is just it, man. It's one of them hands,

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Speaker 3: you getting spades and you ain't got those space.

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Speaker 2: So I just gave you that whole schedule right there.

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Speaker 2: So my thought process on the trade of Quinn Williams

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle and Logan Wilson linebacker and helped this bad defense.

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Speaker 2: It's a little too late, is way too late. It's

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Speaker 2: a little too late.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: This whole thing has been fumbled, man like, from the

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Speaker 3: from the Michael Parsons thing like you should have been

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Speaker 3: taking care of back in March.

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Speaker 9: Man like.

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Speaker 3: It's just and give you get team enough time to

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Speaker 3: get situated and get the defense right.

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Speaker 2: Trade him off? What a week before the season. This

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Speaker 2: is not with no So now you're playing ketchup. So

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Speaker 2: you're right with no plans. So you you've been because

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Speaker 2: in the spring, Jerry said he wanted to sign him,

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Speaker 2: So in the spring you wanted to get something done

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Speaker 2: they've been playing ketchup ever since. And it's not good.

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Speaker 2: And so when we look at the schedule what we

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Speaker 2: just laid out here, let me think about, Okay, you

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Speaker 2: got the Raiders at the Raiders. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 2: gonna win it because it's on the road and not

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Speaker 2: good enough. They can't win. But then after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: November twenty third, on a Sunday, you have world champions

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Speaker 2: who you already lost to this year. Then four days later,

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Speaker 2: you turn around and face the Kansas City Chiefs played

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Speaker 2: last year. Okay, so that's November twenty seventh. Then one

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Speaker 2: later you got to go to Detroit. Who's going to

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Speaker 2: be looking like, hey, last Dallas ball coming up here.

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Speaker 2: So then you get ten days off and you get

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Speaker 2: if they'll still be on NBC by then. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if the Cowboys and the Vikings both still have playoff chances.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna You're gonna show the game. Uh. Then after

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Speaker 2: the Vikings game, it's a home game against the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: Good team.

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Speaker 2: Then you end the season with two road games in

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Speaker 2: the NFC East Christmas. So after he plays the Chargers

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Speaker 4: No Jaden Damiels though unfortunately it's a noon game on Netflix,

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Speaker 4: by the way, noon game on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: And then the final game is a either January third

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Speaker 2: are will anybody want to win that game?

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Speaker 3: I'd have been a part of those type of records

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Speaker 3: where you get to that last game and you're just like, man,

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Speaker 5: Already be packed down.

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Speaker 3: Our Brookie season we was we was bad. I was

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Speaker 2: so let me ask this. This is just just something

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Speaker 2: I've always wonted got some Vorner players. Now you gotta

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Speaker 4: Know, Like it's it's one of those type of things

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Speaker 4: But we're gonna go out here, we're gonna put it down.

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Speaker 3: You want to play because, like you said, you wish

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Speaker 2: So they're like, hey, all.

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Speaker 3: The you know backups you're playing against, you know, rookies

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Speaker 3: Then you're going to get a third or fourth string quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And you're just like the trying like hard or they

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Speaker 2: going finishing blocks, they trying to get seen. No brother

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00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: ain't no brother, no brother in law, ain't know, like

863
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: come on, let me let me usher you out of bound.

864
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: And they trying to lower the shoulder. They they fresh

865
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: because they ain't playing all season. Man. Now that's the worst.

866
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: That's that's the worst type of situation to be there

867
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: right there where you're like, you want to get cats

868
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: going one hundred miles an hour. Ain't had a playoff season,

869
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: so they fresh, fresh legs strength.

870
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, get me out of here, man.

871
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: My first league is like that. We went eight and

872
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 5: eight every year, you know, and so like.

873
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you ain't doing nothing. You're an average team.

874
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: You got at home, and it's one of those type

875
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: of things where like you got to have a little

876
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: bit of pride and dignity about you.

877
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: That's that's gonna help you get through the game.

878
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: But Yo, it sucks.

879
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: It is bad, just like you said, especially when you

880
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: know the other team you're in go to the playoffs

881
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: and you going home.

882
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, dudes then packed up their stuff.

883
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 4: They got their cars on the on on the shipping

884
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 4: carts and everything else.

885
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 5: They ready to go home.

886
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: It's ben. Then I got teammates on the other squad

887
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: getting ready for the playoffs. They coming out there in

888
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 3: just a jersey. Hey turned back. Good luck today.

889
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: Man. You do your thing and I'm over there over

890
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: even seeds and stuff like they used to have me hot. Man.

891
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get better. So your games, your final two

892
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: games for the Cowboys Christmas Christmas Day in DC, it

893
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: will be cold, and then the final game in January

894
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: at the middle ends, it's gonna be cold.

895
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: Again, cold again, and so so so so numerically, all right,

896
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: if the Cowboys say they went out, I mean they

897
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: still got a chance to actually do something.

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00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: They went out, there'll be eleven eleven, five and one, right,

899
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: so yeah they'll be good. They get a chance, but

900
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: they gotta win out.

901
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: They got it.

902
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best they could do. They can only lose.

903
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: World War Game says it.

904
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: So I'm what you're doing in but I ain't happening

905
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: after the season. You know, we know this is you

906
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: gona this is this is twenty twenty five. Come twenty twenty.

907
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: Five, you're still going, bro y'all want y'all want it

908
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: on be? We can go right after the last that's

909
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: what that just twenty twenty six. Man, that's what I'm.

910
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: Paying ged it bet for man, no stipulation. That's when

911
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: I'm going. That's what y'all want me to pay. That's

912
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: what I'm going to do.

913
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: What you want you good? I pay my best so

914
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: you won't eat. We're going right after that week. We

915
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 3: go right after that game.

916
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: You're so black baby, Well what you want that? Dirk

917
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: the whiskey t ball? You want to be right there?

918
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, still gonna be good.

919
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: Thought he want to get a Christmas niggas.

920
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 5: I thought you was going for my birthday?

921
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Can I get it? Can I get it right on

922
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: my birthday? My birthday coming up? In the simple Man,

923
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna eat right here. Related I got and I

924
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: got you. I ain't going you know, I ain't gonna

925
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: be there. I got you, I got you. It's gonna

926
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Speaker 2: be good. It'll be good too. Trust sauce on there

927
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: to be good. Don't trust me, trust me, there'd be

928
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: some damage. Like Quinny Williams is gonna hang out with

929
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Speaker 2: he can pay for it to.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 2: Dor said it was fun, very church. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Producer Chris Bean, thank you as always for getting done.

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Speaker 2: Josh and everybody here Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm NEWI

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Speaker 2: scus talk to you tomorrow.

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