WEBVTT - Where To Meet Men IRL, No BS 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:15.680 I Do. Part two is a one of a kind 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.439 of experiment in podcasting and love. Now, if you didn't 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.760 get loved right the first time, which, let's be honest, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.200 we all know most of us probably don't, Our hosts 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.200 and our celebrity mentors are here to help you get 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.160 it right the next time. I'm one of the celebrity 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.360 mentors today and I'm hosting the show. I'm Bob Guinea. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.920 You might know me from The Bachelrette from trist the 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.199 season way way back, and The Bachelor from my own 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.720 season way way back, and also now the podcast Almost 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.000 Famous the Ogs, which Tristan I host together. And I 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.879 know that love is not all roses and helicopters and 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.440 volcanoes and all sorts of crazy things that happen on 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.120 the Bachelor franchise, and sometimes you find your forever person 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.080 the second time around. Right, So today I am joined 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.320 by two other members of Bachelor Nation. You know my 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.920 great buddy I love him to death when he was 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.720 a star of season thirteen. And we've also got a 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.800 fan favorite from the season of The Golden Bachelorette. Please 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.760 welcome Jason Mesnik and Gary Levingston to the podcast. Hey guys, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.760 and Ba's here. I know, I'm telling you, buddy. Well, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.240 you know, I do feel like we are going og 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.520 status here too, because Jason, I think you and I 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.000 might be the oldest Bachelor's right from the actual Bachelor franchise. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.960 Well yeah, see, the first thing that goes is to 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.399 hearing I'm telling you. And then Gary, you know, even 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.280 though you look incredibly young, you just came off of 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.840 the Golden Bacherette with Joan. So great to have you, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.840 guys man, thank you for being here. Yeah, it's awesome. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.240 Yeah, thanks for having me. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.000 So Gary, real quick, tell me you know how you're feeling, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.200 you know, coming off of the show. I mean, obviously 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.000 the show has been a big hit. How have you 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.760 felt coming off of the show and how has everyone 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.400 been responded to you since you've been back home. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.720 Well, it's been pretty exciting, you know. I have to 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.800 tell you, this whole celebrity status thing is far from 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.320 my retirement world that I was a part of, which 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.680 is a very quiet, peaceful thing. And now you go 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.640 to market, I go to my local Indian Wells coffee 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.200 shop and everyone wants to take pictures. So it's it's 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.680 pretty it's pretty amazing. Keeping it fun, but also keeping 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.040 the in perspective, So it's been a lot of fun. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.400 Yeah, I think. I think that's probably one of the 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.040 things you know from a personal perspective, and I'm sure 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.600 Jason will agree. You know, one of the greatest parts 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.120 about the show is is you know, especially when you've 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.560 been fortunate enough to be edited well, which I know 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.480 I was. You know, it's nice the way people respond 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.800 to you when you're out there and you hear all 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.080 the nice things and all the great response. I mean, Jason, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.560 I remember you and I being out together in Seattle 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.720 a couple of times, and it was pretty fun. It 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.799 was really good. I mean, I'm sure you still get 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.360 it every day. I mean, you got your real estate 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.760 firm that you're running and everything else, and with you 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:46.919 and Molly, i mean, it's got to just be so 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.880 much fun. It's a blast. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.200 I mean obviously, like you know, when you're on their show, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.600 kind of spikes and everybody's like, hey, selfie this, selfie that, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.760 And as the years go by, they're like, did I 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:56.600 used to work with you? 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.640 Like you look like to be out of high school together? 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.680 Yeah, you look at the Bachelor just a little fatter, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.360 you know, It's like I'm like, I'm big boom. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:07.840 You know. That's my life. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:09.720 That's my life. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.120 Hey man, I've often said it, man, you know, like 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:13.799 I'm like, I think people remember me for trist this 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.440 season because I was the only one that you know, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.800 didn't have a six pack, right I did. I didn't 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.280 pack my six pack for that trip. All right, Yeah, yeah, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.120 I'm telling you, buddy. Now, Amy Roback and TJ Holmes 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.040 are a big part of this show. Obviously. TJ made 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.760 a really great, great quote on one of the previous 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.160 episodes that I think really resonates, like, let's take a listen. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.400 Why can't people just meet people? We see people all 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.640 the time, but we don't give people that we see 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.920 on the train or at a restaurant or down we're 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:41.839 looking at our phone when the love of your life 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:42.960 might be at the end of the book. 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.680 So true, right, I mean, we all get so caught 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.160 up in that, especially in today's day and age with 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.040 smartphones and everything else. I mean, we've all chosen to 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.880 find love the old fashioned way, like going on a 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.680 TV show and handing out flowers, right, but then this 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.560 new fangled smart app stuff comes out, you know. So 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.760 I mean let's talk about that a little bit. I mean, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.520 how how was life different for all of us obviously 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.360 prior to our times on the show as well, but 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:09.960 back in the day before you had apps. I mean, 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:11.760 people will always say to me, like, well, did you 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.840 ever use an app? I'm like, no, I really I 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.640 never had, because after I came off of the show, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.919 I wasn't. I was. I immediately jumped into a different relationship. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.320 Next thing, you know, I was dating, and then we 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.920 got married and divorced, and you know, and then Jason, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.440 I mean, you went on the show, you come off 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.640 the show, and you obviously had such an emotional ending 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.440 to year season which changed your whole life, and it 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.560 was pretty you know, spectacular, And to this day, Ranks 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.840 is one of the favorite moments on the show. And 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.400 you know, what are some of the ways that we 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.680 used to meet people before the apps? Like do you 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.040 guys even remember way back then? 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.240 You know, It's funny, like I was thinking about this 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.359 and the last person that I met, and this is 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.640 no joke, is in a parking garage. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.880 I just remember that. Like I think back in my younger. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.599 Days, like I would have been so intimidated and this 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:58.880 has nothing to do with the Bachelor. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.760 I was nervous. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.320 We're all nervous about rejection, and maybe that's why people 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.640 are quiet, you know, if they're sitting on a train 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:05.680 or a bus or whatever. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.800 But I remember, like at one point I was like, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:08.680 screw this. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.560 And I saw a cute girl in a parking garage 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.640 and I was like, hey, I know this is awkward, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.680 and I'm it could come off a little bit creepy, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.480 but like, would you like I could grab a cup 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.040 of coffee? 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.880 And I think that was the last time before. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.920 You know, I think you almost have to put yourself 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.640 in a position where you're like it's almost like like 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.120 I'm in sales. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.560 Right, Like you gotta read a lot a lot of 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.960 feelers out there. Not yeah, yeah, like you know they 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.920 always say what ten knows forevery yes type of thing, 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.040 and yeah, that's. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.760 A life of that's a life of your world in sales. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.960 Absolutely right, totally the doors. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.159 And we're gonna knock on before the one finally opens 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:42.760 and let me in. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.560 Well, Gary, what about you? I mean, you know, obviously 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.920 you know the whole concept of the Golden Bachelor ad 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.080 and the Golden Bachelor is people who have come on 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.320 who you know, are looking for that second chance at 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.440 love and yeah, you know before you before you did 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.520 it now which is probably now considered one of the 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.720 old fashion ways, which is handing out on TV or 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.720 taking a flower. You know, how did you how did 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.599 you meet people? How did you find how did you 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.240 kind of search for that special someone? 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.080 Well, you know, back in my day, it was discoer, right, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.760 so everybody was out at the club dancing, and before 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.839 the night was over, obviously you were leaving with someone 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.680 that could have potentially been your girlfriend and ultimately, uh, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.040 someone that you date for a while. So yeah, it 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.120 was completely different going out dancing the night away and 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.560 meeting someone and you know, in that way as opposed 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.400 to online like batch dot com or these other dating sites. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.920 So yeah, completely different world. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.680 Well I will I will say this. I mean, you know, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.560 I hear, you know, I hear some stories of success 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.839 from the the online stuff and all that from friends 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.799 and everything. But I also hear a lot of stories 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.240 of of of that not working because people are just swiping, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.480 and you know, it's almost become like a hookup app 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.360 and less of an actual dating app to a certain degree. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.760 You know, my wife, it's actually kind of crazy Bachelor. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.279 I had kind of decided, you know what, I'm not 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.760 going to get married again. I'm good. So I got 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.080 married before the Bachelor. I'm like, I'm not going to 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.800 get married again. I'm actually really enjoying, you know, being 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.040 you know, in the situation I'm in, which was just 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.640 being the single, being honest and dating, but at the 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.120 same time not having that pressure. But as I got older, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.640 I realized, man, I really wanted to have a family, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.960 and I feel like this has become the old fashioned way, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.600 which was my co host at the time. I had 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.240 a radio show, a daily radio show, and my co 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.720 host's really good friend. I met her and ended up 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.960 marrying her. So I got to know her through friends 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.840 socially hanging out. You know. Then you'd be in certain 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.320 situations and you know, you'd all be together and it 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.400 was kind of natural and fun and organic. You know, Gary, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.120 I know you've you've got children in it were you 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.400 were you married previously or what's your story? 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.200 Yeah, married for seventeen years, and you're right. You go 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.480 through this thing of I want to have a wife, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.760 I want to raise the kids and the two dogs 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.679 in the suburbs, you know, going to and from work, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.840 and you build this great life around that, and then 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.600 you find that you've actually taken separate roads with where 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.360 you are once the kids leave the house. Yeah, and 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.880 then ultimately going back to I'm lonely. I would love 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.400 to have companionship. I do want to be married because 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.680 I believe in the institution of marriage, and that's where 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.560 I'm at now. You know, I'm searching again for a companionship, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.720 a partner, and someone that I can walk on those 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.120 global sandy beaches with, not by myself, but with someone 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.679 that I actually am in love with and who loves 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:36.200 me as well. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.000 So absolutely, Hey, Jason, you know, I don't think I 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.120 already asked you, and I hope you don't mind me asking, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.160 But you know before obviously, I think the world knows 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.240 you know, how you met Molly, and we'll definitely touch 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.079 on that. But you were married prior to the show, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.319 as was I. How how did you meet your ex wife? 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.920 You know, like I think about that all the time. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.080 My ex you know, I met her working at like 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.760 Benegan's as a bartender in college. Like, how did you 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.520 meet your ex? And how did you guys end up 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.080 getting Yeah, I mean you're exactly right. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.280 I think, like I guess, if I think about it, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.200 if I was single right now, I would absolutely do 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.160 everything right. 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.040 It'd be in person, online, whatever. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.240 But again, like this is before texting, right, Like you know, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.520 when the phones were just to call people. So my 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.800 best friend from growing up, he was a bartender at 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.120 a restaurant and my ex wife worked at the restaurant. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:24.680 Yeah, and you go there. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.400 You know, you'd go there and I'd hang out because 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.920 I was single, I'd go hang out at the bar, 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.960 you know, even with friends or even by myself. And 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.600 while you're there, you just meet people organically. And I 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.080 think it kind of goes back to just being open. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.760 And I know it's scary, like putting yourself in positions 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.760 where you normally wouldn't want to be. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.800 But like if you if you put yourself in. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.200 Those positions where you're a little uncomfortable, what's that what's 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:46.679 that saying? 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.800 Get comfortable being uncomfortable? 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.600 Yes, what you're doing. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.679 I think if you do that kind of stuff, like 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.360 you just open yourself up to meeting so many different people. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.679 Oh, that's so true. You got to put it out there. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.560 You got to be willing to get hurt. Yeah, and 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.360 then you know, kind of like me when I when 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.200 I met Canyon, I wasn't looking anymore. I was like, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.360 I'm good, you know, I'm totally fine. And then we 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.160 ended up getting together, and you know, ten years later, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.520 we've got a couple of kids, and it's like, you know, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.480 this whole different world. But yeah, and Jason tell us, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.800 you know, remind our listeners about your Molly's story. I mean, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.680 I know it's something you've talked about ad nauseum, but 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.360 I love it. Oh gosh. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.520 Well, I mean, so I did the Bachelorette first, the 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.319 Bachelorette Bachelor at four. Her name was Deana Pappas, and 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.800 she was awesome. She picked another guy on the show, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.400 and then they asked me to be the bachelor, and 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.439 so fast forward to it, and I honestly think they 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.640 were looking for this like single dad story, and so 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.120 they picked me. And my son at the time was 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.560 three and now he's in freaking college. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.800 I mean, isn't that amazing. Yeah, we're going to parents' 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.800 weekend at his fraternity this weekend. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.120 Oh my gosh, college man, that's full grown man. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.959 Though, God, you know, the show for me, it was 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.000 it was super fun to learn how to they made 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.000 a reality. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.560 Show and go through that whole process. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.440 But like at the end of it, I picked somebody 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.920 else and her name was Melissa, and she was awesome 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.080 and we dated for about a month and a half. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.040 After the show and through that whole process. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.959 Her and I kind of realized that we weren't gonna 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.760 make it long term. So I called up and asked 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.320 the producers. This is before the show even aired, like, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.800 so we'd already filmed everything, and I called up and 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.120 told the producers, I'm like, it just didn't work out 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.240 between Melissa and I kind of have a chance with Molly, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.360 and they basically said, you can have the shot. But 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.600 just realized we've already asked her to be the Bachelorette 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.439 next year. If you're gonna ask her, you got to 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:44.000 ask her on TV because we need some serious reactions. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.640 So it all worked out, right, It all worked out. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.679 I'm still wondering why she chose me over the Bachelorette, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.640 but that's a whole other episode probably. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.400 But a good looking guy you're seeing like a great guy, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:56.640 that's why she chose me. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess, I guess, you know, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.720 I kind of go back to Malli. Mally's got those 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.120 good you know, good Midwestern roots, Midwestern roots, buddy. Yeah, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.120 and she was not willing to go back and do that, 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.240 and she's willing to take a shot at you know this, 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:11.040 this Seattle guy. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.600 Whereabouts are you located? 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.079 Gary, I'm in southern California, the Sunshine state of the 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.480 of the Union here absolutely, Curtly in Palm Desert from 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.240 Los Angeles, so the big city, and then finally retired 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.439 out here in Palm Desert. So it's been it's been 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.720 great over the past nine ten years that I've been here. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.520 Yeah, I used to. I lived in Studio City for 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.520 ten years and loved it and then you know, I mean, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.680 but that's one thing that you have as an advantage, right, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.800 Like Jason has been in Seattle forever. I live in 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.439 Seattle for a little while too, and now I'm back 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.560 in Michigan. We don't we you know, we've got a 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.920 concentrated set of months where we can be out, you know, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.640 as single people, you know, work in the circuit, so 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.040 to speak. You got twelve months, you got twelve months 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.800 a year. You could be working that angle, can't you. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.520 Yeah, not only twelve months. But you know, for me, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.280 athletics and sports is a big thing. So we have 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.600 our LAED. I'm a Trojan alum, so I got the 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.000 Trojans football games, we have the Laker games. Those sporting 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.839 events are also some great places to go in and 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.839 find folks as well, so you know, yeah, and it's 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.079 your round, it really is. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.720 What about what about you're in Palm Springs, what about 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.080 like the golfing world, Like I feel like that's such 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.959 such a thing, the thing that people. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:21.240 Do down there. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.920 It is, and golfing is one of the top things. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.880 We've got some of the best courses in the world. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.080 But you know, once you get out on the course, 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.720 you don't see anybody for hours, so it's not like 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.560 it's a real social environment as opposed to the foursome 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.040 that you're playing in. And then we also have the 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.000 Big B and P Tennis Tournament, the BNP, which is 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.880 another event, so you know, those are fun things. But yeah, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.319 golfing is once you're out there, you're you're out there. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.560 Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah, You've got four four hours. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.680 And I feel so much guilt because I'm you know, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.199 I'm fifty three. I got a five year old and 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:58.800 a three year old, and I love to play golf, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.880 and you know, any time I get a chance to 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.480 do it, everyone's like, well, let's go out on Sunday. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.839 I'm like, no, no, we're not doing that. That's family day. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.040 But you know, how about how about Thursday afternoon? No 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:13.400 picking up junior from school? You know? So yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.160 sports man. But you know, we actually have a caller 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.400 who's going to ask us a question, and this is 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.640 really going to put our knowledge to the test. Guys, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:34.239 We're gonna see if we can't help out our listener. Audrey, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.280 Good morning, gentlemen. Hi Audrey, thanks so much for colling. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:39.720 Thank you guys. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:44.400 So Audrey, you've got a panel of Bachelor Nation experts here. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.880 We've got you know, twenty two years ago for the 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.040 show for me, how many years ago for Jason fifteen yep, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.760 fifteen ago, and of course fresh and hot off the griddle. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.920 We got Gary from Jones season of the Golden Bachelorette. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.520 So you got you got, and you've got different generational 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.400 takes too, right, So you got Gary. I don't hope 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.520 you don't mind me saying this that Gary's in his 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.160 sixties I'm in my fifties. On me too, buddy, ad 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.840 Jason's in his forties. So we got the gamut covered. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.560 And I know never to ask a lady her age, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.840 so I will just say that we know that you are, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.320 you know, in your twenties, and you're looking for ways 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.880 to and to ask us a question, So go ahead 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.200 and give it to us. So I am sixty four. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.920 I was married for twenty five years. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.040 It looked great, by the way, absolutely. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.040 Oh, thank you. I was married for twenty five years 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.120 and then had two I have two adult children, so 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:50.400 now I'm a grandmother Gigi of three, and I set 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:55.240 myself up for being able to retire early and watch 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.120 my grandchildren well in the meantime from my divorce. I've 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.320 been divorced for twenty one years and I've been engaged 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:08.640 three times. Yeah, so I just say I've dodged a 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.480 bullet three times. But now I'm at the part in 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.880 my life where it's like I could be so happy 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:20.920 just being by myself and I'm self supporting, I'm debt free. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:27.040 I'm loving my retirement home here in Jacksonville, Oregon, which 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:32.240 is a little historic town, and that's where it comes 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.000 to the big question where do you meet men when 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.600 you know you're in your sixties like Gary, and you know, 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.040 we dated differently, and who we were looking for back 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:50.040 in our early years isn't who we're looking for the 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:55.560 second half of our life, and it's you know, I've 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.720 done the dating app thing when I was newly divorced, 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.760 but that was a long time ago, and I'm not 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.399 really someone that goes to bars. So that is the 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.280 big question, where do you meet men? 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.920 Yeah, if I could jump in, because we're from that 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.760 same era where you know, back when we were coming 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.439 through the pipeline, so to speak, it was all about 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.119 going to the nightclub or going to the disco or 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.960 going to something like that where we were dancing and 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.879 the entertainment was happening. And now, like you said that, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.679 you've got grandkids and you're so used to that little 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.040 world that you are part of it. I don't mean 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.520 little as in small or tiny. It's just we create 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:42.800 the bubble that we are now part of. The ironic 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:49.080 thing is, from my perspective, you're still out there having 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:55.320 fun doing something. You go in Jacksonville to your kids, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.320 in your grand their events like at the soccer games 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.760 or yes. Are there any professional sports or are there 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.080 any sports like high school games or anything like that. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.600 Yes, So basically I'm in southern Oregon, you know, just 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.520 incorporate that thirty miles from California. So I mean it 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.120 is the bigger you know, the valley, and they do 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:25.600 have there's a lot to do here because you know 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:26.760 where it's located. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.520 Yeah. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.080 I think the thing is is, though, is when you 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:39.240 go to certain things, men don't seem to be as 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.520 easily to approach women. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:42.800 You know. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.919 I don't know if it's like they are afraid of 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:52.720 the failure or they're going to get rejection or what 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.520 I mean. I don't wear a wedding ring. You know, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:04.040 I'm pretty open and and can carry conversation with anybody. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.560 Yeah, I'll tell you what. Audrey, thank you so much 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.480 for calling, and thank you for your question, and thank 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.919 you for being so open and vulnerable and putting yourself 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.600 out there. You know, I think we're going to dig 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.920 into this a little bit and we're going to get 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.000 you some answers. So thank you again for joining us, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.960 thank you for your question. So have a wonderful day. Now, guys, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.000 we got to dive into this. Now we got to 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.520 give the listeners what they want. Audrey is obviously asking 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.040 us a very direct question, which I love, and it's 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.639 actually the number one question that our listeners want to 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.280 know the answers to. Okay, So I think that's pretty 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.840 spectacular and great follow up question too, Gary, I think 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:41.480 you know some of the things that we know about 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.240 Audrey in particular, right, she's sixty four years old, obviously 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.120 looks very youthful, you know, still active and everything else. 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.840 You know, two adult children, a grandmother, a gig of three, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.280 which is adorable, by the way, And I think I 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.080 think I need to tell my mom she needs to 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.600 start calling yourself Gidi instead of grandma. But you know, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.359 it's like everything she said kind of resonated with me 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.920 a little bit because it literally is what Joan I mean. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.920 And Gary, you're closer to this than anybody. But Joan 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.480 had basically said, you know, I didn't think I was 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.440 all of a sudden going to feel invisible, and I do. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.400 And you know, I didn't hear Audrey say that necessarily, 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.000 but it is kind of one of those things where, 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.240 you know, so what is she supposed to do shut 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.840 off that part of her life now? And just be 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.280 a grandma, be a dedicated babysitter to people. You know, 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.560 it's like, you know, my mom's going through it right now. 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:34.080 My mom's seventy eight, she's older, but you know, there's 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:38.119 not as much of a drive to be my mom's 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.520 not ready to be a grandma sitting around knitting all 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.560 the time, you know, and just being at my back 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.800 and call for babysitting services. But she's also you know, 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.840 my father passed away a few years ago, and all 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.520 of a sudden, she's sort of in this place where 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.760 she's like, she's not out there looking for the next 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.960 level of her life necessarily, She's just out there looking 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.160 for someone to hang out with. And I think one 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.280 of the things that Audie said companionship You said it, Gary, Yeah, 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.520 Audrey basically said it. She's like, you know, she's been 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.000 engaged three times, but dodge a bullet three times. And 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.000 you know, it's sometimes I think you go down that 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.720 path because that's what you're supposed to do, not maybe 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.600 what you want to do. And I mean, what do 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.040 you guys think about that? What do you think? What 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.359 do you think Gary? What do you think? Jason? 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.360 Companionship at our age is extremely important because we don't 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.720 want to go to the movies alone. Something as simple 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.280 as going to the movies, something as simple as going 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.320 out to dinner or going to watch a film on 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.359 a Netflix film at home eating popcorn. You know, companionship 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.040 is so very important because I think it adds a 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.199 whole nother flavor to the relationship of I don't have 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.600 to be alone, even though you might be in that 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:50.320 in between stage of losing someone, but also still in 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.640 need of the companionship the relationship in that way, not 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.879 necessarily having to be married, even though it'd be nice 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.000 because then you could start planning trips, to go on 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:05.280 trips together and that fun stuff. So sure, the companionship 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:09.879 thing is really super important. Going to someone's birthday party 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.840 and having you know, folks over for a glass of 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:17.720 wine or whatever. It's it's critical and you don't want 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.600 to show up alone, you know, especially when everybody else 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.320 is coupled up. It's crazy. 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.440 Yeah, I'm curious about I think aback, like whether bachelor 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.360 or not. Like it's like when you're younger, whether you're 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.240 at the disco or you're at like i'd go to 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.640 the bars, you're looking for who you attracted to right, Yes, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.080 I think about like people would ask me all the time, 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:37.280 like did you know who you're going to pick right 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:38.639 away on the bats or you're like, well, you know 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.760 who you're attracted to, and that's obvious you kind of 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.159 Even in my early thirties. 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.480 That's what I was thinking. But I think as you 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:45.600 get even me. 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.480 Like in my late forties, fifties or sixties, I think 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.280 get don't let me. I'm just curious, it changes where 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.200 more important. Like the attraction is important, but I feel 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:01.040 like what's even more important is like having common interests. Yeah, right, 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:07.240 so whether movies or some hobby or cooking or golf 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.840 or tennis or it is. I wonder if it's possible 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.600 to break down those barriers and just find groups of 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.119 people and take out. And I'm not saying I'm not 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.920 saying completely eliminate the attraction piece, because I know how 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.960 important it is, but way heavier in saying like I 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:23.800 think if we all went back and said how would 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:28.280 I date? Differently, it's like how important are those common interests? 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.040 Where so you're not just like sitting on the opposite 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.600 ends of the couch not talking, or sitting on your 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.800 phone they're engaging talking about something that's important, like how 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.560 do you like get putting yourself in a position where 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.600 you're really going to find somebody that has those interests. 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.840 So if it is dancing, like I do remember, like actually, 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.400 one of the last things I did before I wanted 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:50.760 to learn how to dance, and before I went on 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.560 the Bachelor, I took some sauce lessons, right, and I'm 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.679 a terrible fricking dancer, right, But I did put myself 0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.240 in a position. I didn't meet any girls that I 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.080 would date, but I had an awesome deciment to look 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:02.320 forward to going to it every week. 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.080 Yeah. Well, I was going to say that too. You know, 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.520 one of the things I say to my mom all 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:11.840 the time, and I think it even though Audrey's much younger, 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.119 I would think that I would want to say this 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:15.880 to Audrey too if I had a chance to talk 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:17.600 with her about you know, some of this stuff in 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:21.200 a little more detail. And Gary, I love your input 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.320 here too. But you know, it's like, you got to 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.960 put yourself in the position to meet these people, and 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.320 you know the only way you're going to do that 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.800 is by getting out of the house and by you know, 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.119 and it can't just be at you know, at children's 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.000 sporting events and things of that nature. Like you've really 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.600 got to put yourself into the mix where it's like okay, 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.600 you know, and it does. And you don't have to 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.199 hang out with just single girlfriends, right, You can go 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.160 out with your girlfriends that are married or or or whatever, 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.600 and you can basically say, you know, hey, let's go 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.439 out tonight. Let's go to the restaurant, or let's go 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.080 to the bar, or let's go to this, let's go that. 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.679 And you know, it doesn't mean you're a drinker, but 0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.280 you can still go to a restaurant and have dinner 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.120 with your friends and then hang on the lounge area 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.760 and relax or you know, I mean, man, in Oregon, 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.800 you know, there's so many great places where people go 0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:08.960 in the summertime, Like summer in Oregon is so beautiful. 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.920 The Pacific Northwest is amazing. You know, go to Seattle 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:13.320 for the weekend. You could do a whole bunch of things. 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.600 I mean, Jason, Jason, you could probably give her a 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.040 list of things that do in Oregon that would just 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.640 blow her mind. And so, you know, to that end, 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.399 you know, ladies, grab your pens. Because we're going to 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.040 get into this, I think I'd love to see if 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:27.640 we could give a list of some places and not 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.679 just huge generalities, although that's okay as well, but you know, 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.840 really kind of dig into a little bit and think 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.119 of some places to go that you might meet people 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.600 that are around your age they don't have to be 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.200 the same age, but around your age range, and maybe 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.399 with some similar interests, you know, like for example, I 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.879 mean she was talking about she's in Jacksonville, Orion. She's 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.200 a southern Oregon right out you know, right near California, right, 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.840 so we know that there's there's great weather, beautiful coastlines. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.280 I mean, you know, there's so much to do out 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.119 where you guys are at, and you know, what are 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.400 some things specifically that we that we could tell her, 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.320 you know, I I think of like there's some great 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.760 hotels in Portland that have really cool lounges and they're 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.439 not necessarily places that people go to get hammered and 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.440 you know, get carried out of there. The other places 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.440 that people go for the architecture and they sit around 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.840 in there taking in the vibes of the places, and 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.800 you know, anything like Jason specific Northwest specifically, you know, 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.000 what are a few things you've done. 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.159 This occurred to me yesterday, and this place overlaps so 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.199 many different things, right, so we we were at the 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.960 Fairmount Hotel last night and this what I mean, it 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.840 goes so many So when we filmed The Bachelor back 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.360 in the day, all the girls stayed at the Fairmont Hotel, right, 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.520 and yesterday Mollie was like, I. 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.600 Would totally come out like it's kind of this old 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:47.399 school vibe. 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.560 And even though she would go sit here and hang out, 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.040 every major town has a Fairmount which has got this 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.960 old classic feeling. Even if you're not drinking, you can 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.119 sit there and enjoy the atmosphere. But on top of that, 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.840 so that's like one place I think that you can 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.399 go on any any given city. But there's also a 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.160 really cool like if she ever came to Seattle, there's 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.760 a cool little restaurant right on the lake called Como. 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.720 Here in Kirkland, I don't know, yeah, yeah, so Koma, 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.680 Like in the summertime, it's like right on the water. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.040 Boats are there, like you're sitting out on the deck. 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.280 And again, like when I've been there, it's always been 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.960 with a group of people, right, and people have ranged 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.280 in ages from. 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:28.040 Like thirty to sixty, right, and you just have a 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:28.400 good time. 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.639 And again, like I understand like there's a lot of 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.639 people that don't drink, but I think putting yourself in 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.359 an atmosphere and not being a free even if you 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:34.840 don't drink. 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.480 I have a lot of friends who don't drink. You 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.800 can really meet people in a cool place. Yeah. And 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.520 then also, you know, Kirkland in particular is such an 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.000 awesome area in the Greater Seattle area, and I love 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.920 that you I mean, you know, I was in Samamish 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:47.919 on the east Side, and I would always end up 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.760 in Kirkland to see everybody because it was such a 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.920 fun vibe. You can find those places anywhere you live 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.159 that have kind of a fun atmosphere and energy and 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.960 people are out and about and it's like, you know, 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.640 maybe it's ped malls or whatever it is, so everyone's 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.919 walking around and interacting and engaging. I mean, you know, 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.160 we have them here in Michigan, and you know, it's 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.160 my favorite place to go because it kind of brings 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.560 that energy of the people out and and you know, 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.760 you can be a social butterfly in those situations. You 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.000 can say hi to everybody you can, you know, and 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.920 like she like I think one of the things Audrey 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.560 said that kind of resonated with me was she's like, 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.040 I don't wear a wedding ring. I talk to everyone, 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.320 you know, and it's and she's open and fun, and 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.240 it'd be like, you know, just find find your tribe, 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.080 you know, find some people that you can go out 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.720 with and you feel really comfortable with. Have a great 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.200 time with those people. And because if you're out looking 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:36.800 nine times out of ten, it's not going to happen. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.560 I firmly believe that have some of the people you're with, 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.160 and people will approach you, like, Jason, did you know 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.920 that that not that it was like you're a you're 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.520 in a parking structure, but you're like, I need to 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.920 meet that person, you know what. It's like, I know 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:49.200 how that. 0:28:53.080 --> 0:29:06.080 Parking parking rogers for everybody, but listen, guys, Okay, so 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.760 here in California right and where she is at and 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.480 in particular, outdoor concerts a fun. 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:18.240 Place to go and entertainment is happening. The other big 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.040 thing now is also pickleball, where there's lots of people gathered. 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.480 It's not as much strenuous activity is going on. But 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.920 pickleball is another arena or set of places that people 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.440 go to for entertainment. 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.320 I love country. Pickleball is awesome. Yeah, you mentioned sporting 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.960 events to Gary, like Portland Timbers right there in Portland. 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.360 I'm not sure how far Jacksonville is from Portland. But 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.920 you know, I'm not saying she has to relocate necessarily. 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.400 But you know, there's always there's minor league baseball teams, 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.440 There's always stuff going on in different areas. Now, okay, 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.120 we've also got some let's talk about some some specific places. Okay, 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.360 so we've got some spots here, and I can tell 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.480 you that a few of these places and I will 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.800 I will let you know when that I have actually 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.480 met people at you know, prior of course to being married. 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.280 You know, one play and you guys can let me 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.480 know what you think if you've been to these or 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.200 if you know of these, you know, destination travel spots 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.000 that maybe she would go with a couple of girlfriends 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.080 and just sort of again having a great time with 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.880 her group. And it resonates right for example, the Pebble 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.480 Beach pro am. We were talking about golf right now, 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.000 you're on the golf course for four hours. But when 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.200 you're walking the golf course watching the pros, it's a 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.760 totally different vibe. Right, you got cocktails, you got places 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.040 you can stop and get two totally to right. What 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:34.840 do you guys think of that? 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.680 I think that's a great idea and what a wonderful thing. 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.760 You know, and people are more approachable and they're friendlier, 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.480 and they're in this outdoor environment where it brings on 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.400 conversation piece or or who are you following? Or you 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.000 can engage a lot easier. What a great thought and 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:55.520 great suggestion. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:56.080 I agree. 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.680 And that's actually interesting because like you know, you're you're 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.880 in a place also where if you do like you 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.280 might be there because you do like golf. Right, if 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.280 you like golf, you're meeting somebody who also has some 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.320 common interest and you know that that's something you might 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:09.880 have to do with that price. 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.840 Right, Well, ladies, write this down. That's January twenty seventh 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.360 through February second. Right, who knows Gary might even be 0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.760 there walking around. I'm going Gary, I'm going with Gary too. 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.640 I think guys even fun all right, So if it's 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.200 still you know it's this year you want to get 0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.040 out before the holidays, right, one thing I always love 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:28.920 you go right down town. It was one of my 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:30.480 favorite things to do in the holidays. And when I 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:31.760 used to work for the Today Show all the time, 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.720 I used to love doing it. But they'd always bring 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.920 me out and I'd be right downtown, right in Times 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.440 Square or right down by Rockefeller Plaza, you know. And 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.560 it's right there at Christmas time where Christmas is vibing 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.840 in Manhattan. You know. That's amazing. That usually starts right 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.720 after Thanksgiving and goes all the way through the first 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:51.600 week of January. Art Basil in Miami, right, that's what's that. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.760 That's December sixth through the eighth. I mean, that's something 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.240 that I mean, you talk about people everyone I know 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.200 who's gone to that and I have not. When I 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.600 know who's gone to it. My wife's gone to it. 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.680 She says, it's amazing. The vibe is amazing. 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:04.240 Yeah. 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.880 Yeah, well you're right in Miami, you know, as a curveball, 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.920 like you go to the Kentucky Derby every year, don't you. 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.360 I do? I do? And is that like? 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.880 I mean, I know it's it's packed and it's maybe 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.280 it's a bucket list for some people, but how like, 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.080 how fun would that be to meet somebody at an 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:19.720 event like that? 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.520 I will I will tell you I have and they 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.480 you know it's true, Like, yeah, the Derby first Saturday 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.880 in May every year. I've gone now for twenty years. 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.680 And uh, when my ex wife and I split up, 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.520 it was post bachelor, right and it was before I 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.080 had met Canye and my wife Jessica, and I was there. 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.280 I went two years by myself and I met someone 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.400 one year when I was down there who you know, 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.400 had just graduated from from you know, UK, and and 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.480 we hung out, had a great time, met all of 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.120 our friends and family. They met all my friends and family, 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.080 and we ended up I ended up working down in 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.880 Louisville a few times after that, and it was awesome, 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.640 you know, And it was a really again, super organic. 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.600 I was with my friends, not looking for anything. Somebody 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.520 thinks it's fun that we're having such a great time. 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.120 You guys are having a great time over there, like yeah, 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.960 come on and join us. You know that kind of 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.920 organic vibe And we all know exactly what I'm talking 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.560 about because we've all had that happen. 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.160 Right, totally totally, Yeah, you guys are doing that, and 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:19.120 I'm usually following the college scene, the college football scene. 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.320 Right, So you got. 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.480 Another place where you're tailgating and you're inviting folks. In 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.440 the beauty of this that you're suggesting is that it 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.640 can become an annual thing. Oh, this is where we met, 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.920 and you continue going to that location. And how special 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.080 would that be to say, yeah, this is where we met. 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.920 We go every year, and what a great place to 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.280 go and meet some folks. But yeah, great, great, great suggestions. 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.440 I love that tailgating thing. 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.640 I remember we were at this is even though like 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.560 I was looking to meet people, but we were in 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.160 Green Bay for a Seahawks game. 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.040 Yeah, and the amount of people. 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.720 That were just like everybody at every tailgate was just 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.440 like come on in, have a broad or beer or 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.640 like if you find it like an maybe it's the Midwest, right, 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.640 Like going to in the Midwest where people are that welcoming, you. 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.440 Don't meet a stranger, you know, So listen to this, guys. 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.840 So last year Detroit Lions made it to the NFC 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.600 Championship game. Lines them in my team forever, you know, 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.319 and we had some lean years here and I go 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.400 to San Francisco for the game with one of my 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.600 buddies who's a big forty nine Ers fan, and I 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.560 had always heard that, you know, San Francisco fans are tough, 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.719 you know, like they don't they're like outsiders the whole bet. 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.799 And I'm all decked in my Lions gear, you know, 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.319 and he's in his forty nine Ers gear, and we 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.560 were having such a great time. Everywhere we went, the 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.719 forty nine Ers fans like, hey, come on, man, and 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.600 they were amazing because of the good time my buddy 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.440 and I were having and they were in literally that energy. 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.000 So it doesn't even have to be you know, it 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.440 could be like just people wanting to meet more fun 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.640 people or whatever it might be. But it was like, 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.640 you know, hey, man, if it wasn't us gonna you know, 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.239 it wasn't the forty nine Ers, we'd want to be 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:51.520 the Lions, you know. And it was like this kind 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.040 of really cool copesthetic vibe. And I know, you know, 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.560 Jason's from Seattle, and Seattle and San Francisco datorious. They 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.239 don't get along, but you know, for the record, that's 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.640 the football team only because I mean Jason is wild 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.040 with everybody. Well, trust me, Like this this year. 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.879 You know, Mollie's from Michigan too, Like, yes, I've never 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.719 seen her love football more than this year. 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:10.840 I love it. We'll tell her we're all going to 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.359 the super Bowl together, buddy together. But yeah, those are 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.160 some great spots. 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.399 Yeah, don't underestimate the college scene as well. And I'm 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.520 more of a college sports fan. I love the Pros, 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.840 don't get me wrong. We have so many activities associated 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.600 with the Pros. But at the collegiate level there's also 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:33.560 a very long and illustrious history of alumni as well 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.040 as a current student base and forensic come in. It 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:41.440 is a fabulous experience to to do the college thing 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.239 as well. I'm not sure if she has a university 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.520 in her area up there, but what another great venue 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.759 for her to go and say, hey, yeah, you know 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.120 this is where. This is a great place to meet folks. 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.080 Tell me, I love the alumni thing because you have 0:35:56.160 --> 0:36:00.000 something that you're you're bonded right away, totally totally great idea. 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.600 Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love I love 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.560 the idea too, you know. And one of the great 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.319 things about Civic Northwest, and you said it best, Gary, 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.640 is the outdoor The outdoor concert scene, and a lot 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.120 of it is like really cool with the wineries, right, 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.960 like Jason, remember like what is that one that's oh 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.239 my god? They give the best concerts out out near 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.800 SA Michelle, Cheryl Crow, all these different people, and it's 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.759 more of a vibe like you're like, yes there is 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.879 a concert, and yes people are watching it, but there's 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.440 also more of the vibe around the concert where everyone's 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.160 wine tasting is going on, and it's just a really 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.560 chill almost like a coffee shop concert setting in a 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.400 major concert venue, you know. Yeah, and those are really fun. 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.759 It's it's age appropriate. It's like, you know, I think 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.520 that's one of the things. And I've said this many 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.759 at times, and Jason, I'm sure you probably agree with this, 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.680 but one of the things I really love about how 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.000 The Golden Bachelor has been casted was because it could 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.719 have been, for lack of better words, a s h 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.759 I T show, right, Like it literally they could have 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.279 done this as a publicity stunt and had like we're 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.400 going to throw in you know, three you know, Chippendale 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:07.520 guys and you know whatever. 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.160 They really were blessed with getting the group of guys 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.000 that that that were cast for the show, and it 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.000 made such a difference because of the illustrious history that 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.600 we all have, but the way we all bonded as 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:20.239 a fraternity. 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.480 So yeah, it was that. It was a true victory. 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.080 Yeah yeah, And it was all It wasn't any stunt casting. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.520 It was just good dudes, you know. And it's like 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.520 I think about that from when I was on Trista 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.719 Seson at the Bacheorette and then you know, after that, 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.080 I went on to be the Bachelor guy, but it 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.960 was like that group of guys, we were genuinely friends. 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.120 Like I remember thinking to myself, like, man, I you know, 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.040 I when I when I knew it wasn't going to 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.359 be me and everything else, I was like, you know, 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.960 I really feel like and I mean true he was. 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.400 He was like my bunk mate. And in the manswa, 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.160 I was like, I really want Ryan to be the guy, 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.399 you know, like yeah he's in love, like he really 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.919 for me. It's like, yeah, you're room for each other, 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:58.920 you're not. And I remember saying that the first night 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.600 because I was the older guy. Even then, I remember saying, 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.440 I'm like, guys, it doesn't matter if we like each 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.200 other or not as to who she's gonna like, so 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:06.799 we might as well make it easy on ourselves and 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.360 just get along and like, yeah. 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.160 It's funny, like when The Golden Bachelor, it really seems 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.080 like they went back to the roots, because like even 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:13.640 when I was on it, you know, a few years 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.880 after you, it was still sort. 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.120 Of like that. But I think then it. 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.920 Was like The Bachelor and Bachelor, I went to it 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.760 like like somehow it followed their Kardashian world. 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.880 Or the whatever the drama. 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.960 But I think the Golden Bachelor and Bachelrette really went 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.759 back to some of the roots, and that's why people 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:28.439 love it so much. 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:30.799 It was like a reset button for the whole franchise 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.480 and hopefully it carries over. You know, a few more 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.359 places to talk about US Open Tennis tournament. These are 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.080 places you can go to in different areas geographically, or 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.200 you can make like you guys said, like Dayton Daytona 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.480 five hundred every year, Indy five hundred. You know, there's 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.400 places that had these pe. 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.840 Tennis tournament down here in Indian Wells. 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.279 That's as I like it. But you know, it's funny. 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.000 You don't even have to go to the actual event, 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.640 right Sometimes it's the parties around the event that are 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.840 just like I was the Masters, went to the Masters 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.279 a few years ago. I never even made it on 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.799 the course. I walked around all the places around it 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.799 and had the time of my life. You know, some 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.759 of the greatest people. So yeah, I love it, man, 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.520 I love it. Great ideas and I think great advice. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.399 You know, I travel a ton. I've probably met people 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:20.080 in adulta louge more than I even care to mention. Yeah, 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.319 even today, I mean I'll I'll literally walk out of there. 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.400 My wife will go, do you ever meet a stranger? 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.000 I'm like, oh, you know, no, I guess I don't. 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.160 You know. I love people and I love you know, 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.120 getting a chance to talk to them. And you know, 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.080 like you said, everybody's got sports, sports teams around them. 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:35.440 Even if it's a little bit of a drive, a 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.480 destination for the night. You know, she's obviously comfortable. She 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.520 doesn't need she doesn't need a man, She just wants 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:42.840 to meet someone. 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:44.200 The companionship. 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.120 The companionship, right, just like I talked about. Yeah, I agree, 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.880 such beautiful. I think those are all just great ideas. 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:51.080 Man. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.359 I love it. When I used to live in LA 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.719 and this was something that was you know, it's very 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.799 common in La and Gary you could attest. But man, 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.320 I was at the dog park every day. I was 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.480 at Runyon Canyon every day. Spot Oh my gosh, and 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.960 I would meet people literally every day and it would 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.680 be like, you know, just because you're passing them twice 0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.080 on this trail, hey, how you doing? You know, and 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.000 then by the second time I see you your every day? 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:17.120 What's your story? What do you do? Where do you work? Always? Yeah, 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.320 I love it. But it's that's kind of a vibe. 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.560 I think as long as you're not you know, as 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.440 long as you're not feeling the pressure of looking for something, 0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.880 you're going to find someone you connect with in some way. 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.600 Shape or form a romantic and pushing yourself to do 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.080 like an interest that you have. Right, so we all 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:41.000 like something whatever, like like putting yourself in a position 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.680 where you're doing that consistently enough where you're going to 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:44.160 meet people. 0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:48.080 Absolutely greed, agreed. Well, we talked about all the hotspots 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.680 where you can meet somebody. Let's let's throw out a 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:55.319 couple that are probably good to avoid. So you know, 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.040 I mean, I don't know, I guess some of the 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.360 first things that pop up on my mind, and you know, 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.800 I'm thinking more more along lines from what Audrey had said. 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:04.719 You know, she's like, I'm not the type of person 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.560 that goes out to a bar, you know, but I think, 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.880 you know, my I think what's interesting about that is 0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.480 there's not always it doesn't have to be a negative 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.319 connotation about a place that serves alcoholic beverages. Right, Yeah, 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.400 you can go you can go to a restaurant that 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.520 has a bar. You can go to a hotel that 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.360 has a bar and you can sit in the lounge 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:22.839 area and drink a sprite all night. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:23.080 You know. 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.839 It's like, you know, we talked about that, right, there's 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.279 great outdoor venues that you can go hang out at 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.200 where other people might be drinking. Doesn't mean you have 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.239 to where else where? What else would be a bad 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:34.520 place to meet somebody? You know. 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.839 It's it's a good point you bring up because I 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.920 also think at our age we are done with that. 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.399 I think it's age appropriate. Let me put it like that, 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:48.399 where you know you're going out to a bar and unfortunately, 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.080 you know it's like a pickup place for these young kids, 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.120 and you're like, I'm way too I shouldn't be here. 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.799 This is not what I expect. It's not what I want, 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.759 it's not what I'm looking for. So the age appropriate 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.959 bar as, I think make a big difference as well. 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.040 Someplace you want to avoid going to a younger hipster 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.640 kind of place versus someplace else where you can engage 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.520 in conversation. Yeah. 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.800 And I would wonder too, like for a place for 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.719 if women are looking like a place where they just 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:18.600 feel unsafe. 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.160 Yeah. Rights, that's something. 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.719 That I don't know if a lot of guys can 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.200 really identify with, but like unsafe might be like you 0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.160 might go to somewhere for coffee during the day, but 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.359 if you went to that same same area at night, 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.400 you might feel a little bit unsafe. But then I 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.560 would argue my on the flip side, like what if 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.400 you went there with a friend? 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:39.719 Yeah, find a place that. 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.560 You're comfortable with even if you feel uncomfortable, but you 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.600 really want to go there, open it up and bring 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.120 somebody with you so you do feel safe. 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:47.920 Yes, yeah, I think. 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:49.960 Yeah. I think one of the things you're saying too 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.839 is like I got I hope this isn't an inappropriate term, 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.360 but I remember people saying, oh, yeah, it's like a 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.399 meat market down there or whatever. You know, you don't 0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:57.680 want to go to a place where you feel like 0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.080 you're on display, right and you're like walking through and 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.839 everybody's sizing you up or something like that wouldn't be fun. 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.279 I mean, another place probably not a great place to 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.799 meet people the gym, right, Oh that's exactly what I 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.719 was thinking. Yeah, yeah, like you go to the gym, 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.640 you're if I go to the gym, which we can 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.879 tell doesn't happen often, but if I go to the gym, 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.520 I'm literally there for a purpose, right, I'm there to 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.600 get to break a sweat, get in, get out, probably, 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.480 you know, don't don't you know, I'm not at my finest. 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.360 You know, I probably didn't spend a couple hours getting 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.120 ready to go into the gym. I would imagine most 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.680 women aren't going to the gym to meet guys and so. 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.000 And it's an interesting point, you mean, because the few 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.200 times that I've been to my gym now people are 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.440 approaching me and it's like, oh my god, you're scary 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.120 and that kind of thing. But I'm trying to get 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.839 in my workout and it's a disruption. So yeah, that's 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.319 not obviously a good place you want to meet someone. 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:58.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no way, thank you. Right, all right, 0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:00.759 now I'm gonna throw out a couple place. You guys 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.200 give me your immediate gut reaction, okay, whether or not 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.160 it might be a good place for Audrey or for 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.520 anyone to meet someone. First one, we're gonna start with, 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:15.080 let's say farmers market. Heck, yes, Seattle, That's what I 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:16.399 was thinking of set right away. 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:16.800 Yeah. 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.759 I was also thinking of La downtown Sherman Oaks. They 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.200 have this awesome farmers market that people would go and 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.200 they'd walk their dogs and they'd walk around. Yeah, I agree, 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:31.640 a great one. How about an auto show or a 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:32.160 boat show. 0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:36.680 Let's say, well, I mean that's where I think, like 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.000 if you have thatt like, if you if you are 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.960 passionate about cars or boats or whatever. 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.120 It might be a super interesting place to go because 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:44.359 I don't think most people are going. 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.160 There just to meet people. They're going there because it's 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.120 it's their common interest, right. 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.759 Like I love boats, I want to go look at boats, 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.360 or I love cars. I feel like for whatever reason, 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.799 I feel like that's that sometimes lends itself to have 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.640 more of a couple's activity or a guy's activity. H 0:44:58.640 --> 0:44:59.960 I don't know what that's problem. That might be sex 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:01.839 for me to say that, but like I always think 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:03.319 of like the auto shows when I used to have 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.359 to work them, like back before the batchel of stuff 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.040 and everything, and I remember it'd be like just a 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.520 ton of dudes rolling through there, you know. Yeah, and uh, 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.799 if there was a woman, she was typically with someone you. 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:17.320 Know, representing one of the autos that were yeah. 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.160 Yeah, exactly, or they have like a Chrysler pin on 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.120 their shirts. What about like, let's think about like, you know, 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.560 because a lot of times people say that being in 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:30.319 an adrenaline activity like river rafting or ziplining or you know, 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.040 running or biking, that that gets your endorphins going. And 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:35.319 you know, what do you guys think of that kind 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.799 of stuff like an adrenaline related activity? Does that ever? 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.600 That'd be pretty cool? Like I used to do triathlons, right, 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.480 sprint trap ons, not government or anything like that. It's 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.480 a great place to go and meet people that enjoy 0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.680 those outdoorsy kinds of things. So yeah, I think that'd 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:50.879 be a great suggestion, well. 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.600 Especially like for for her in organ like even going 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:55.600 out right like you're gonna get your heart beat up 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:56.880 a little bit and you're gonna see. 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.959 The same people on the same trail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.560 I think. I think the hiking. I think anything where 0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:07.719 you're out outdoors, like you said, Jason, feeling safe, you know, 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.719 and maybe doing it with people that are I don't 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.680 know not you know again, I mean, I can only 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.800 speak from my own experience, but it's like I feel 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:21.439 like going in those situations when you're not looking for it, 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.360 like when you've basically said, you know what, I'm just 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.520 gonna go have funt my friends. I'm not going to 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:26.440 try and you. 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:27.279 Know all that. 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.000 Dude. Yeah, common interests. I'm with people I love, I 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.680 feel comfortable and safe and we're enjoying you know. Uh, 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:38.520 what's the crab Jason is so famous in Seattle the 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:47.919 oh my god, a dungeness crab crab you eat. I'm like, yeah, due, Jason. Yeah, 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.560 I'm like I mean that, you know, I'm gonna go 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.719 because I love the crab. I love the crab cakes here, 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:53.719 or I love you know, like you mentioned the Pharamount, 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.040 Like I love that little bar lounge area on the 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.920 back of that first level when you go upstairs up 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.160 the street level. That's exactly so cool. Yeah, I love 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.560 that place. And then now they did the library kind 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.120 of speakeasy thing on the other side. I mean, you 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:08.920 talk about great. That's when you said that. I was like, 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.640 oh my god, I forgot how much I love that place, 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.239 you know, and I wouldn't have remembered again. 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.800 And so I was there just yesterday when Molly walked 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.440 in right away, she was like, oh my god, I 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.959 love this place. I forgot how much I love coming here. 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:20.680 And it's great for all ages. 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.440 It really is that whole area I love. I love 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.080 downtown Seattle still to this day, one of my favorite 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.759 downtown areas ever that I visited, and especially when I 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:31.279 got to live there for four years. It was like 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:33.640 a dream, you know. It's just like every day I'd 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:35.319 go down there and just be like, ah, smell the 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.600 fresh air and the whole thing. You know. So let's 0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.640 let's let's transition a little bit here. I think we've 0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.240 got some great stuff. We've covered some great information. Hopefully 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.440 Audrey will feel like, you know, we've we've given her 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.560 some good ideas and inspired her a little bit. But 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.799 let's transition a little bit back into of course, this 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.080 season of the Golden Bachelorette because we do have of 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.000 course Gary with us, who is just living legend status 0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.680 coming off of that show. Buddy, you know, you were 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:02.480 so fun to watch, Like you mentioned too, the whole 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.120 cast has been so fun to watch, and I loved 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.759 I really loved the casting on Gary season last year, 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.759 and then of course now on Jones season this year. 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.800 You know, with all that, like it's coming down to 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.279 the wire, right, I think you're probably pretty close with 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:20.319 all the guys that are still left standing. Yes, any 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.600 and this is not a spoiler alert, right, well, we'll 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.960 put it out there. No spoiler alerts here, but just 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.680 your personal gut feeling. You know, how are you seeing 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:28.640 this season play out? 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.120 Well, it's interesting because I know that there is a 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.960 true emotional connection, or at least there was with Chalk 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:40.640 and Joan when his mom passed away, which was very 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.920 touching for all of us. There was an emotional connection 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.280 that they both had for some odd reason or another. 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.600 But then as I'm reading more into a guy is 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.040 the other person? I think that would probably be a 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:59.000 good fit for who was a fun, loving, outgoing person 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.279 that would match up well as well. So you know, 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.360 between Chalk and guy is who I'm done putting my 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:06.120 my bets on. 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.200 And is that only because you didn't like Pascal's choice 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.319 of evening attire? 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.160 You know, I think Pascal is a great guy, and 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.200 we are good friends with each other. I just think 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.960 that he's got a very busy life, you know, with 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:27.080 his hair studio and the and the hair salon and 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.759 all the things associated with that. Guy and Chalk on 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:35.680 the other side of that are are guy Our people 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:40.840 that are men that are looking for love. They're looking 0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.920 for love, not that Pascal isn't. He just leads a 0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.120 much busier lifestyle than the other two guys. 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.000 It sounds like somebody would really, she'd really have to 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.200 fit into his life. 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:55.360 Yeah, right, right, as opposed to them both merging together. 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.880 And that's again why I think Guy because he's a 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.440 he's an er surgeon. He would move to Maryland in 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.960 a heartbeat if that were to work its way out. 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.719 And yeah, so those are the two guys I think 0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:11.840 that she'd done. 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.040 Yeah, well, I think too. 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:14.279 You know. 0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:16.680 One of the things I think we've learned from the 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:21.680 first season of well from the Golden Bachelor, is that 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.239 everyone at this stage in the game is invested in 0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.399 the areas that they live in, right. I mean, whether 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.480 it's because your grandchildren are there, you know, whatever it 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.200 might be. And you know how many people are going 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:38.160 to literally uproot and say, Okay, I'm move in here. 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:39.880 You know, it's like it's like you're not going to 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.280 want to vacate those areas where your family is and 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.520 where you're where your family, you know, your children, your 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.040 grandchildren and your children are. So you're gonna need someone 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:51.799 who's either a completely unattached or be willing to kind 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:55.960 of be not necessarily by coastal but by city living, right, 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:57.440 Like they're gonna have to be willing to go, hey, 0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.680 we're gonna we're gonna go two weeks here and two 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.759 weeks or maybe every other weekend we're here, season there, 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.160 in a season here there you go. Yeah, you're gonna 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.359 have to be open to that. And and maybe that's 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.080 part of it too with Pascal, like you said, and 0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.640 like Jason mentioned, plugging into his lifestyle. Obviously, you're right, 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.040 he's not necessarily uprooting and going anywhere. No matter how 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:17.799 much you might care about someone, it's gonna be a 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:19.840 lot in distance relationship. Yeah, you've got you've got a 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:24.479 whole season there man in Palm Spring. Yeah, the same 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.520 season all the time, which is perfect every day. Yeah, exactly. 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.040 I'm listening at the sunshine today. It's in the mid 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.879 seventies and it's uh, it's that time of year when 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:36.279 all of the folks come back in in town. You know, 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.040 they leave for the summer and they come back for 0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:39.319 the winter and spring months. 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.560 So yeah, that's why traffic's better here in Seattle. Right now, 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.399 they've all left to come down there. They've left there 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:48.120 all yuh guys, guys, it's seventy five and mildly sunny 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:49.879 here in Michigan. So we're kind of got the best 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.320 of both worlds. We got the mildly sunny of Seattle 0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:53.800 and the seventy five of the Palm Desert. 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:55.240 Yeah beautiful. 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.839 So, Jason, I got a question for you. So, and 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.920 you are the one who can answer this better than 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:06.719 better than I know myself. Joan and whoever she chooses 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.600 right the hardest part. And we've seen this all the 0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.439 way back to the original First Bachelor, all the way 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.160 through to whatever season one hundred and sixty five that 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:23.560 we're on now, how how do you adapt and adjust 0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:28.840 your lifestyles together post show for success, right, because I 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.239 think we've all seen people come off the show now, 0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.160 we've even seen a few people come off the show 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:38.560 and get married and divorced, you know. And I mean 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.759 I can say honestly, it's not easy coming off the 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:45.720 show and keeping even a dating relationship together. But Jason, 0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.400 you've done it, and you've done it in grand fashion. 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.120 I mean, you're happier now. Every time I see you, 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:52.840 I'm like, God, I love those two together. It's just 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.560 like you guys, you know, in Tristan and Ryan, same thing, 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.640 you know, Aaron, Aaron and Catherine. You know, I've seen 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.520 it and it's right now there you go. Joey and 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.279 Kelsey look amazingly happy right now, and they're committing that 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.040 time together. And that's got to be so hard to 0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:07.799 because he's on Dancing with the Stars as well, and 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.680 he's you know, he's on a dance point. I mean, 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.680 there's a lot going on there. But Jayson, what would 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:13.440 be your experience if you had a piece of advice 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:18.440 to give to Joan and one of these guys, what 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.320 would it be. Well, I think there's a couple of 0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:21.040 things to stick out. 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.160 The first one and I said, this to anybody who's 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:26.040 asked me for advice is I think only you and 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:29.239 whoever you choose or your partner is know what the 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:30.040 truth is. 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.040 Like are you in it for the TV fame and 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.040 all that, or are you really into the relationship? 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.040 And you've got to be honest with you because there's 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.759 a lot of people, especially the younger not not talking 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:39.839 about the golden bachler or bachelorette. I think a lot 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.399 of people are looking to make make up a really 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.080 good living from what they've done, right, And you've got 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:46.880 to the TV stuff, And I think you've got to 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.759 be honest with yourself. And if if you really do, 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.520 I think it is helpful to go back to wherever 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.680 you're from, right. Chris Harrison used to say that all 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.680 the time, like, don't move to New York, don't move 0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.000 to LA don't quit your day jaunt, don't you like Yeah, yeah, 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.200 Chris is like you'll be more successful in your day 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:03.120 job than anything else. 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:04.360 Yeah, I would say that. 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:05.920 And I used to talk to trist about this all 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.319 the time. And I and I think the other thing 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:12.799 is like give it. Like Molly and I were living, 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.000 Molly was living in Milwaukee and I was living in Seattle, 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:17.560 Like don't you don't have to jump in real quick, 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.479 like like like uplifting your life, uprooting your life and saying, hey, 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:23.200 I'm going to move to Seattle or I'm going to 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.440 move to Michigan, or I'm going to move to Papa Springs. 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.279 Like that's not real either, Like you meet somebody. 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.239 In a week later that move, I'd say, you get 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.960 a shot where you're going to expose yourself to their life. 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.440 They're going to experience some of your life and you. 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.319 Know, and again, like whether it's the Golden Bachelor or 0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:40.600 as the show changes a little bit, a lot of 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:41.960 people have kids or grandkids. 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:43.640 So you want to be able to be real like 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:44.520 and I went through this. 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.000 Right, You want to be really sensitive that like that 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.680 really works out and like the people in your life 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.799 aren't like shell shocked by this other person coming into 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:57.759 your life and same vice person, but really experiencing where 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.880 they're from. Like Molly and I dated long distance from 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.440 a year, like we here once a month, I'd go 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.200 there once a month, and we did it. Like again, 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:06.879 it took a it was a year, and that might 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.280 be fast for some people, but we gave it plenty 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:10.760 of time before she moved to Seattle. 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.560 Yeah, I love that that is that's the kind of 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.560 advice that, Yeah, that's the kind of advice that you 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.399 need to hear because I think what happens, Uh, there's 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.520 there's so much pressure, as we all know, you know, 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:28.319 and I mean, you know, when when I chose a 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.400 whole by the name of Estella, I didn't propose at 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.560 the time, and when we came off the show, there 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.960 was just so much pressure to do so many things, 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.520 and my life was going on a million miles an hour, 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:42.600 and you know, hers wasn't because they didn't know her yet, right, 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.759 because she hadn't been exposed yet. And and it's the 0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.640 way they used to do the show back then. And 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.120 I'm not sure if you if you even watched it 0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:50.839 back then, Gary or not, but they would always make 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:52.360 it seem like you were going to pick the other one, 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.680 so that you know, there's like this formulaic thing, and 0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:56.799 so if you if you were choosing this person, they 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.359 always made it look like you were choosing this one, 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:00.319 so that when you actually chose this one, it was 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:04.040 shock and awe, but there was also automatic backlash, you know, 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.760 And so you come off that last night of filming, 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.680 and now it's finally out there and everyone knows we're together, 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:11.239 and everywhere you go they're like, why didn't you pick 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.920 the other one? I don't understand, and they're saying it 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:15.399 right in front of her, like she's not even there, 0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:16.239 and you're like, oh my god. 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:16.480 You know. 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.919 It was terrible, you know, and thankfully we're still really 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:21.480 friendly that both of the last two girls of my 0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:23.440 season and I are and they've both been guessed on 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.319 almost famous dogs by the way, which is crazy. Yeah, 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.719 oh yeah, yeah, that's been kind of fun. It's been 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.520 a guest too. Yeah. So it's always Bob's access on 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:31.880 the show. 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.600 But let me interject because I think something Jason said 0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.400 is very important and we don't want to forget. And 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:44.120 I think that's why the producers have incorporated the family, 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:48.640 you know, the hometowns that meet the families, because you 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:52.120 really take into consideration your loved ones and their thoughts, 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.719 who are now adult kids and they have marriages, and 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.240 you want them to have some say in this because 0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:03.000 you really, I don't even trust their opinion, and I 0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:05.839 think that's another big part of the decision you have 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:08.640 to make and who you're going to be with because 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.040 it's not just you stand alone anymore. It's now you 0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:16.480 and so many others that decision. 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:18.920 You know, it's interesting because, like I think, being on 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.600 the show, you get this natural high. Right there's the TV, 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:25.360 the cameras, the girls, the dates and everything. But even 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:28.000 outside of the show, you're still on a high in those. 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.360 First few months you're dating somebody. 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:29.720 Yeah. 0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:31.400 Like, and I think you've got to figure out how 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.439 to put yourself in a position where, like things will 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.000 happen after the high, like the real relate. Well we've 0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:40.080 all been married, right, so the real relationship happens when 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:43.000 the high's over, exactly, of in a position where you 0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:47.479 can really realistically understand what life will be like after 0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:48.080 that high. 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:52.000 Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. Man. Well, hey, Gary, 0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:56.400 if your phone rings tomorrow and they're like, yes, sir Gary, 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:58.760 this is the call, buddy. We want to know are 0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:01.040 you here? We go Jason doing the call. We want 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:07.280 you to be the next Golden Bachelor. Gary, what are 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.320 we saying? That's a tough. 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.640 Because you know, look, you guys have been in that 0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.800 hot seat where you're making decisions about who and when 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:22.560 and where and why. Uh, it'd be a lot of fun, 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:26.240 but at the same time it could be very stressful. 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:29.000 Oh yeah, I have to think about that. 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:29.440 I haven't. 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:32.240 I haven't really even thought about that and taking that 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.960 next step. But you know, who knows. Let's see, let's 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.400 see where. Let's see where the big man upstairs takes me. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:38.800 And that you know what's funny about That's where I 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:40.840 will be. You know what's funny about that? Like, I 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:41.400 think all of it. 0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:43.720 I think I even called Bob before I did The Bachelor. 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:44.920 I think we all called Bob. 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:48.120 And we did. Yeah, we talked for sure close. 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:51.000 I think he's I think what he said and if 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.240 I could quote wrong, he's like, I'm gonna tell you 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.320 not to do it, but you're gonna do it anyways. 0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:59.480 Yeah, I actually do think I said that because I 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:01.480 I will tell you. I mean one of the things too, 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:04.160 What about Golden Paradise. What if they did a Bachelor? 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:05.240 You know Golden Bachelor? 0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:09.560 Is that okay? So I'd probably have to drop about 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:11.560 thirty forty pounds, you know. I don't know. If you 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.120 guys saw that Chippendale dance where Mike Big King showed up, 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:17.480 I'm thinking I got a six pack and they didn't 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:18.080 slow motion. 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:22.360 I'm thinking, oh no, when you get older, it's called 0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:27.520 the keg exactly. Yeah, it's a kegger, it's ager, so 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:31.880 you guys you know, yeah, yeah, I love to think 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.520 about it. Right. Well, Thank you guys both so much 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.360 for being open to talking about all this stuff. And 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.040 I mean, you talk about putting yourself out there. You 0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:40.320 guys both did that today. You both did it when 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.120 you were on the show. And I think I've already 0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:45.439 seen it unfold for Jason, but I think we're gonna 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:47.080 watch it unfold with you too, Gary. That It's just 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.280 things are just gonna keep on getting better, buddy, and 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:51.600 I and I think you deserve it, and I'm happy 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.880 for you and and very happy to see what comes 0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.040 next for you, my friend. And you guys are always 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.520 welcome to join me here where we are just doling 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:02.920 out the advice we humanly possibly can to anybody who 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:06.160 might be listening. 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