Speaker 1: R and B Money.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: Thanks take Valanchi. We are the authority on all things
Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank
Speaker 1: Valentine and this is the Ry Money Podcast.
Speaker 3: Tell her what come you go here? Okay, you started off.
Speaker 1: All things R and B. Voco, I'm sitting this ship.
Speaker 3: Are you being vocal?
Speaker 1: Are you big? There's a difference between an R and
Speaker 1: B artists When a R and B singer.
Speaker 4: Off camera, I want to say, there's a difference between
Speaker 4: a hit and a classic.
Speaker 3: Come on, it's starting.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not gonna say too much else here,
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Mario, that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, before we start, I noticed your thing.
Speaker 4: Before we start, I just want to say congratulations man.
Speaker 4: To R and B you understand.
Speaker 3: And and to y'all, I don't have no drink drinkers.
Speaker 4: I got it just in case I wanted to ship
Speaker 4: on something. But you know what we've done coming from
Speaker 4: the DMV, you got d m V, you got the
Speaker 4: Bay Area in here, like what we've done, what we've
Speaker 4: sustained you know for this, for for R and B
Speaker 4: and the game is it's not an easy feat for sure.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And I want to say
Speaker 4: congratulations you, thank you for open doors that you've opened.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, my Bay Area brother, and
Speaker 4: let's let's do this man, R R and B money,
Speaker 4: RMB money.
Speaker 3: Today for R and B money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: He walked in looking like R and B money money.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man.
Speaker 1: I know we talked. We talked in we talked in Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I said something to you that
Speaker 1: you know, even you were able like you were able
Speaker 1: to really expound on and articulating and we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to the beginning and all that. But yeah, I said, bro,
Speaker 1: you're having You're having a hell of a moment right now.
Speaker 1: And it actually has nothing to do with music. It
Speaker 1: has everything just to do with him with you.
Speaker 4: Thank you, man, thank you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like your your essence and
Speaker 1: your movements and just nigga, you just standing there smiling
Speaker 1: whatever it is, putting your trip on there. It's it's
Speaker 1: a thing to be talked about and appreciate it. And
Speaker 1: that goes to or goes back to all of those
Speaker 1: things that we were taught early. Yes, aren't really necessarily
Speaker 1: talk anymore. Like the presence of an artist should be
Speaker 1: something that means walk in the room. Yeah, they have
Speaker 1: to know you and that motherfucker before you say a word.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's I think that it's something that needs
Speaker 4: to be protected and taught. And some of you you
Speaker 4: can't teach, right, But just the awareness of it, of
Speaker 4: what you're saying is so important because when you start
Speaker 4: so young in the game, sometimes situations the process will
Speaker 4: make you forget who you are, not as a talent,
Speaker 4: but as a God given talent. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what God gave you, the light that God gave you, right,
Speaker 4: because I do believe that most of us that are
Speaker 4: in this game are chosen, you know, and we have
Speaker 4: a gift that connects, span and touch millions of people
Speaker 4: just what our voice is, just with our presence, and
Speaker 4: so we got to remember that always like that comes first, right,
Speaker 4: and protect that because the game is ruthless. It's a
Speaker 4: lot of sharks, and you kind of have to be
Speaker 4: a shark and this ship to a certain degree. Right,
Speaker 4: Can I curse on this show?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: I'm not I tend to do that. Times, but it's
Speaker 3: a passion.
Speaker 4: I just feel like I think that I've just come
Speaker 4: to a place now where I've accepted certain things and
Speaker 4: I don't let I don't let my past. I don't
Speaker 4: carry it as heavy as I used to, both my
Speaker 4: personal past and also my past that people know of
Speaker 4: in the business, whether it be the ups and downs
Speaker 4: of success and quote unquote failures. I don't carry it.
Speaker 4: I just I just appreciate where Matt and just the
Speaker 4: the gift that God gave me of understanding the awareness
Speaker 4: of the energy that I am outside of just music
Speaker 4: goes back to what you're saying, and I protect that
Speaker 4: as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 3: And that's what I think.
Speaker 4: I think we see and I got you know, Adupe
Speaker 4: team and people I work with that are like brothers
Speaker 4: to me, and we just you know, we we was
Speaker 4: in it. We like it's like we gotta get it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's got to happen, and
Speaker 4: I know this is a time, it's time. You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, since you said you know so you started so
Speaker 1: young for real?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Go back to when when Mario was on the playground
Speaker 1: man and and one of them kids was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is Mario be singing like a mother, y'all.
Speaker 3: Do you know it's crazy?
Speaker 1: This nigga can wow?
Speaker 4: You said the playground. It started with my mom. Man,
Speaker 4: it started with my mother four years old. My mother
Speaker 4: was an outstanding listener and collector of great music. Right,
Speaker 4: that's where it R and B hip hop. So my
Speaker 4: grandmother was church. My great grandmother was church. So she
Speaker 4: did listen to the Marvin Gays and then that King
Speaker 4: Coles and all of the.
Speaker 3: Great James Brown.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But my mother is the one that noticed my gift
Speaker 4: first and was like, at four years old, she got
Speaker 4: me a mic that tuned into the radio, right, remember
Speaker 4: those they had, the little cordless mic they turned into.
Speaker 4: So one day she was in the best sleep and
Speaker 4: I'm in the living room with Mitch Max sos On
Speaker 4: and some you know, some dirty diapers, pamp.
Speaker 3: Whatever I had on at that time, and.
Speaker 4: Dirty draws, dirty draws. Because so I'm in the living
Speaker 4: room and I was singing to a song on the radio,
Speaker 4: and not that I was singing all the words, but
Speaker 4: she noticed that I could hold a melody. That she
Speaker 4: knows that I was hitting them on key, and I mean,
Speaker 4: this is the story that she tells me, and I
Speaker 4: can't quite remember that moment, but I do remember the mic.
Speaker 4: I remember the mic for whatever reason. And she said
Speaker 4: from that point on, she's like she was going to
Speaker 4: keep music around me in whichever way that she could
Speaker 4: rather be playing music. She played the piano as well,
Speaker 4: And so I think that was the beginning of creating
Speaker 4: the passion and the awareness of who I am today
Speaker 4: for myself because she put that in me early. She
Speaker 4: put it around me, and I didn't know it was
Speaker 4: a gift. I just love to do it. I didn't
Speaker 4: know it was a gift to lie. In elementary school,
Speaker 4: did a talent show, which I have another story for that,
Speaker 4: seeing kids that hated me, like being a fan.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like as a kid, you
Speaker 3: don't really know you have a gift. You just know it,
Speaker 3: you love to do it. They could even help themselves.
Speaker 3: They couldn't help themselves.
Speaker 4: Right, And then my grandmother's in the audience. That was
Speaker 4: my superhero. So like I don only sing in church
Speaker 4: for her, so to be singing boys to Men song
Speaker 4: in front of my grandmother was it was That was
Speaker 4: the moment where I realized it. But Before that, it
Speaker 4: was my mom.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: She she really gave me the confidence.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: We went to barbershops. She used to cut my hair
Speaker 4: up until the age of like seven or eight. And
Speaker 4: the first barber shop I went to, she made me
Speaker 4: sing for everybody in the barbershop. I don't want to
Speaker 4: sing because I was used to singing at home. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do it, sing sing, sing this
Speaker 4: song right now.
Speaker 2: From and so danceing right God, and so all of
Speaker 2: the guys gave me ten dollars a piece.
Speaker 4: I mean, my first hundred come.
Speaker 3: We need, we need the barbershop.
Speaker 4: I made my first one hundred dollars in the barbershop.
Speaker 4: And I looked at my mom when we left. I said, Mom,
Speaker 4: I can make money doing this. She's like, yeah, you can.
Speaker 4: She's like, just don't be ever afraid to sing. Never
Speaker 4: be afraid to sing. And so, you know, I took
Speaker 4: that with me, and it's the reason why I got signed,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But yeah, the first talent
Speaker 4: show I ever did was in elementary school. Right. So,
Speaker 4: when we moved out of Emison Village and we moved
Speaker 4: to Pikesville in Baltimore from West Baltimore to the County.
Speaker 4: Twenty houses down the street from me lived Monique Monique Medium, Yes, Monique, Monique, Monique,
Speaker 4: my babies, her son, little Mark, me and two other
Speaker 4: young men. I can't remember their names. I can't remember
Speaker 4: who it was. She put us in a group. We
Speaker 4: rehearsed in her backyard. It's my first time being broken.
Speaker 4: I'm not lying to man. Wow, true story, true story.
Speaker 4: We rehearsed in her backyard. She put a group together.
Speaker 4: We went to the Taylor, we got suits. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 4: our elementary school talent show. Elementary school was right across
Speaker 4: the street, by the way, a block and a half
Speaker 4: away from where we both lived, and we did this
Speaker 4: talent show and it was it was incredible. It was
Speaker 4: it was like we could have been a group, we
Speaker 4: could have been young like you know. But yeah, man,
Speaker 4: all of these things. You know, she was a big
Speaker 4: part of that for me. And I never told her
Speaker 4: that before. I never told you, Mo, Nique, thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you for you know what I mean, making us
Speaker 4: rehearse for hours, you know what I'm saying, and showing
Speaker 4: us why it's going to take, what's going to take
Speaker 4: to get to be great, you know, what I'm saying
Speaker 4: at a young age. So the group, no, I don't,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Maybe she does. I gotta. I got to hear what
Speaker 3: the name of these groups.
Speaker 4: It was so long ago I was I was an elementary.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that, yeah, that they were putting on suits.
Speaker 2: Yeah we had on we have, but not the suits,
Speaker 2: not thee with the with the with the Bruce Lee Collo, yeah, Catholic, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The four man group, four man the man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, y'all didn't lose. It wasn't. It was impossible.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't even remember who was going against because
Speaker 4: we killed. It's so crazy, like we had the aunties
Speaker 4: and a grandma and the kid.
Speaker 3: Everybody was going crazy. Now it's gonna be a nigg
Speaker 3: in the comments like, yeah, he don't remember it. You know,
Speaker 3: we was, we was on them. We almost. That was
Speaker 3: the first.
Speaker 4: Honestly, that was the That was the first talent show
Speaker 4: I did in Baltimore. But it wasn't the least. The
Speaker 4: next one that was like eleven years old, and it
Speaker 4: was this guy by the name of Anthony Jeter, and
Speaker 4: he would do these talent shows at copp And State
Speaker 4: College in Baltimore. And everybody would come. So the one
Speaker 4: that I did, DREI came and it was like.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you want that Drew Hill're the guy, right,
Speaker 2: oh guy, what you need?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It was it was then, And you know I was nervous.
Speaker 4: I was I Actually I wasn't. I wasn't trying to
Speaker 4: do it. My mother made me do it. Remember, we
Speaker 4: went to the rehearsal for it, and we inside of
Speaker 4: this hall. It's a long hallway to lead to Anthony
Speaker 4: Jitter's uh you know, audition room. But you can hear everything.
Speaker 4: So I'm the youngest, like one of the youngest people in.
Speaker 4: I'm hearing people singing. I'm hearing like older guys, older women's.
Speaker 4: I'm like, my this is why are we here? Why
Speaker 4: are you doing this to me? She knew what she
Speaker 4: was doing, right. I had no idea why I needed
Speaker 4: to do this talent show. So the line is getting
Speaker 4: small and small, were like fifty people in. The line
Speaker 4: is getting the smallest. We were there for like two hours.
Speaker 4: The line is getting smaller. As we finally get to
Speaker 4: the door and I sing famthter. Not only did he
Speaker 4: exchange it for with my mom, but he was just like, yo,
Speaker 4: this kid is special. He's got it. He's in like
Speaker 4: one hundred. So we get to the talent show and
Speaker 4: I remember that day she she cut my hair. I
Speaker 4: didn't even go to a barber shop today. She cut
Speaker 4: my hair. She got me this.
Speaker 1: Before you keep going, how did your mom do? Cutting
Speaker 1: your hair?
Speaker 4: Amazing?
Speaker 3: I can show you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sow your picture before my.
Speaker 1: Bars bars because I used to cut my kids hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's important. That's a that's a great.
Speaker 3: I did alright during the pandemic. He didn't know. He
Speaker 3: didn't know I was cutting something like this.
Speaker 1: He was like, what about my hairline? Dad, don't worry
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 4: He didn't know, He had no idea.
Speaker 3: My son was already a teenager. He like, yeah, yeah, Dad,
Speaker 3: Next time, I got you.
Speaker 1: I got you. I got you.
Speaker 3: Can't we just go to the.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even pandemic for me, right, it was pandemic
Speaker 1: trying coming on. I got you, I see I cut hair,
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 3: Got.
Speaker 4: I feel like when you're I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: have kids, but I feel like when you're a parent,
Speaker 4: like you, you.
Speaker 3: Your kids make you feel like superhero can do anything.
Speaker 4: From what I see like, up is mine, it's mine anyway.
Speaker 1: So she cut your hair?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she cut my hair. She took me to we
Speaker 3: went to this.
Speaker 4: We went to a jeweler. She brought me like my
Speaker 4: first silver.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I remember I had a turtleneck with a gene
Speaker 4: all denim jean outfit.
Speaker 3: Shout and the jeans.
Speaker 1: Nigga watched don't watch stone wash got all.
Speaker 3: Right, so you got to fit, you got you got
Speaker 3: your ice on on.
Speaker 1: I felt like a start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 4: She knew what she was doing. And we get there,
Speaker 4: you know, because I think she knew, she knew I was.
Speaker 4: I was nervous about the whole experience, and I think
Speaker 4: she knew what I was going to face once I
Speaker 4: got there.
Speaker 3: We get there, we go.
Speaker 4: You know, in the waiting room or whatever. I was like, ma,
Speaker 4: I want to go out in the audience. She's like
Speaker 4: you sure. I'm like, yeah, I want to see what
Speaker 4: everybody's doing. She's like you sure you want to do
Speaker 4: I'm like yeah. So I got in the audience and
Speaker 4: I just watch. I'm paying attention to what people aren't doing,
Speaker 4: what they are doing at eleven Yeah, wow, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, I see how I am ready to go
Speaker 4: back now.
Speaker 3: So we go backstage. They introduced me. I go out
Speaker 3: and what.
Speaker 4: Did I sing? What did I sing? I sung? I
Speaker 4: think I sung on Ben the niece by Boys to
Speaker 4: Man killed it one thousand percent killed it.
Speaker 3: Go back to get the you.
Speaker 4: Know the like the when they announced the winner. So
Speaker 4: his niece was in the show. So he his niece was.
Speaker 4: She was like, she was a young girl and it
Speaker 4: was amazing. Other artists like older people doing it was crazy,
Speaker 4: but his niece were on the show.
Speaker 3: I was mad. I was pissed. I was mad. I've
Speaker 3: got on the back.
Speaker 4: I'm screaming, like crying. I'm mad mad I was you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't even know I was that competitive, So I'm crying.
Speaker 4: I turned around. Somebody tapped my should like, yo, it's
Speaker 4: all good. I was all good at Little Homie It's
Speaker 4: all good. And it's jazz from Drew Hill. Wow, Cisco
Speaker 4: walk up. Then all the other guys walk up. I'm
Speaker 4: just at this point, I'm like, yo, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that whole experience they had. Turning to my
Speaker 4: mother meeting Troy Patterson, who was Third Street and my
Speaker 4: first production signed to That's my manager at the time.
Speaker 4: He was there, and so he just kept in touch
Speaker 4: with my mom for a few years. And then you know,
Speaker 4: Brotom was start getting crazy. My grandmother passed away. I
Speaker 4: started getting into things IIN's supposed to get into. She
Speaker 4: called Troy, like, yo, I need to get Mario out
Speaker 4: of the city. You know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 4: just it was just this dark cloud that was starting
Speaker 4: to surround me at this time. And my mom was
Speaker 4: going through her own issues at the time, and she
Speaker 4: wasn't always around, didn't grow up with my dad. So
Speaker 4: it was just like bouncing the family and family house, sometimes,
Speaker 4: not going to school. Sometimes I don't even come home,
Speaker 4: just being outside right, And you know, that transition changed
Speaker 4: my life forever. I moved. I was supposed to go
Speaker 4: up for a weekend. She called him, she said, go
Speaker 4: to Jersey Jersey. She's like, I need my son to
Speaker 4: get out of Baltimore. You know, Can he just come
Speaker 4: up there for a week and just to get away
Speaker 4: for a minute while I get myself together. He's like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: and what I go home? I go there and I
Speaker 4: never came back to Bottomore until I shot my first video,
Speaker 4: which was just a friend.
Speaker 3: How old are you at this point when you go.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm thirteen.
Speaker 1: I'm about to turn fourteen.
Speaker 4: No, it is, yeah, I'm about to turn fourteen years old.
Speaker 4: But before this, I'm like moving from house to house.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: There were times where my mom was dating this guy
Speaker 4: at the time and we didn't get along. There were
Speaker 4: times where I just never came home, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I was just stay at a friend's
Speaker 4: crib or like just just be outside. And at the time,
Speaker 4: in my mind, I'm like, I just got to do
Speaker 4: what I gotta do. You know, my grandmother was gone,
Speaker 4: you know, she died when I was twelve and nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety nine, December second, she passed away, and that was
Speaker 4: like my safe haven. She was the person that if
Speaker 4: something that made sense. Long long as I was with her,
Speaker 4: it made sense, life made sense. And when she was gone,
Speaker 4: it was just me and God.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: On her deathbed, she told me, she slipped.
Speaker 2: Look, what you have is a gift, and your gift
Speaker 2: will take you wherever you you know, wherever God wants
Speaker 2: you to be.
Speaker 4: She like, just never stop believing in yourself and I'm
Speaker 4: always with you. That's what she told me on her deathband.
Speaker 4: And I got a tap with my back that says
Speaker 4: sole truth that's dedicated to her because it's something that
Speaker 4: I live and walk every day. So a lot of
Speaker 4: who I am today is because of my grandmother and
Speaker 4: of course my mother, but from a spiritual place, is
Speaker 4: my grandmother for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you moved to Jersey, Yeah, and do you
Speaker 1: go straight into I don't know what will be considered
Speaker 1: a boot campus now.
Speaker 2: It just like this kid, it was life. It was
Speaker 2: more so life. So he took you in on some Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very much so guardians than act.
Speaker 3: I'm about to just make him a singer. It was like, no,
Speaker 3: I gotta raise him fifty to fifty because.
Speaker 4: Like a week or two, maybe a month after I
Speaker 4: moved up, then he he brought up another kid actually
Speaker 4: from Baltimore. He was trying to make a group out
Speaker 4: of us, and then that didn't work out and I
Speaker 4: ended up staying. You know, I think in his mind,
Speaker 4: obviously he saw talent because he's been around it all
Speaker 4: these years, all the years, but he also saw someone
Speaker 4: that he's like, yo, I'm not gonna let this young
Speaker 4: kid fail in life, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 4: I do. I learned a lot about discipline through through him.
Speaker 4: He was a very disciplined person, you know. And so
Speaker 4: that whole chap, that whole era of my life was
Speaker 4: about discipline and about being very uncomfortable for a great cause,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it taught me just every God is amazing.
Speaker 4: God is amazing because when your purpose is strong enough,
Speaker 4: everything that you go through, even the things that don't
Speaker 4: make sense, is preparing you for your future, is preparing
Speaker 4: you to have the strength to push through in moments
Speaker 4: where you know a regular person or someone else may
Speaker 4: give up or you want to give up. Right, So
Speaker 4: I think about that and like those uncomfortable moments where
Speaker 4: I felt like, what the fuck is going on? My
Speaker 4: grandmother's not here, I'm not with my family, I'm with
Speaker 4: a new family. I never grew up with it that.
Speaker 4: So I don't even know how to take discipline.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to be like, I don't
Speaker 3: even know.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to do Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to do this. How are
Speaker 4: we going to do this?
Speaker 1: You know, we went through somethings.
Speaker 4: We went through some we went through some things, man,
Speaker 4: and I was always like I think that I at
Speaker 4: that time, I was like closed off. I was introverted.
Speaker 4: I was very introverted because I just didn't know what
Speaker 4: to trust, not about who what to trust right now,
Speaker 4: that makes perfect. Started going to school in Jersey, shout
Speaker 4: out to to to Bergen County and went to team
Speaker 4: at for a minute, saw my first like like when
Speaker 4: I went in Baltimore was all black.
Speaker 2: It was all black. It was kids from all over
Speaker 2: the city. Going to school.
Speaker 4: Jersey was like a mixture of everything, was like a
Speaker 4: melted pot.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So it was my first time seeing the you know
Speaker 4: little Latin shorty is my first time seeing some some
Speaker 4: some ship, right, and first time seeing people dress a
Speaker 4: little bit. I just I just wore big T shirts and.
Speaker 3: Tims in the bag pants.
Speaker 1: You know what, no no, no loud colors, the motion
Speaker 1: you could get some Nike. Everybody had any power dress code.
Speaker 1: You have to look like you don't rob somebody.
Speaker 4: So they used to call me country Grammar when I
Speaker 4: when I first moved up there, because you know, my
Speaker 4: accent not as heavy as used to be. But bottomore accent.
Speaker 1: Heavy is heavy, way different.
Speaker 4: And so my first week moving to Jersey, you know,
Speaker 4: getting a fight in school the first week that, you know,
Speaker 4: but it was like I'm somebody else house. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: man don't deal with like fa you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was like, this is what you're gonna do the
Speaker 4: first week, like they you know, And so it was
Speaker 4: like I had to get used to just a different
Speaker 4: lifestyle man. I want to say, like a year in
Speaker 4: he companed me up from school one day when we
Speaker 4: go to New York City, right, big Apple. Going to
Speaker 4: New York. I got on some sweatpants, a Coolie sweater,
Speaker 4: a Nike head wrap, and some earphones and a book
Speaker 4: bag and some times we walked into the Marriott Hotel.
Speaker 4: Peter Edge had an office. This is Jay Records before
Speaker 4: Jay Records brought there and got the building just starting.
Speaker 4: Clive had just started Jay. We walked into the office
Speaker 4: my first time meeting Peter as I sing for Peter,
Speaker 4: I wish by Carl Thomas, and then they walked me
Speaker 4: into me Clive, me Peter, Troy Clive in the office,
Speaker 4: big beautiful office, beautiful view pictures with bon Jovi and
Speaker 4: Clive and Whitney and Clive Michael sat.
Speaker 3: All the great just great. So I'm looking around, imagine.
Speaker 4: Ever reflesh, you can imagine. I had no idea at
Speaker 4: the time. I mean, I've heard his name before, but
Speaker 4: I had no idea who Clive Davis was, in the
Speaker 4: magnitude of the greatness he had been and how much
Speaker 4: he had fought for us, you know, in some ways
Speaker 4: in the urban music. And I sit down and Clive's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I started talking to him. I was asking
Speaker 4: him about the like, you know, pianos and all this
Speaker 4: stuff in his house. And he asked me to sing
Speaker 4: for him the same thing I Wish by Karl Thomas
Speaker 4: and I Make Love to You by boys, And he
Speaker 4: called in his whole staff. He's like hold on. He
Speaker 4: called in his whole staff, mostly women at the time.
Speaker 4: Set him on a couch in the room on the
Speaker 4: on the left side of the room. His desk is here,
Speaker 4: and then it's like the whole view of New York
Speaker 4: some crazy at the top of the Maria. And I
Speaker 4: sang again, and.
Speaker 2: He asked me right there, how would you like to
Speaker 2: be you know, new artists on Jay Records.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a hundred keep it a hundred.
Speaker 2: Working with Warren and Harold was like working with like
Speaker 2: big cousins.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, working with the underdogs was like working with It
Speaker 4: was more it felt a little more corporate.
Speaker 3: It sound a little more like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was like, we're still making great music, but it
Speaker 2: felt more mechanical.
Speaker 4: But it was still great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Shot out to those guys, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and what they've contributed to.
Speaker 4: The passion, the pain and the pleasure of R and B.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I say.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it was that was you know, this
Speaker 4: was like artist development for me. You know, I may
Speaker 4: work with all those great people because it's like you're
Speaker 4: working with the great. I remember I remember singing Troop
Speaker 4: records in middle school, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: working with Little Steve on those records was I didn't
Speaker 4: even know at the time, like I'm working with little Steve.
Speaker 4: I didn't learn that toil late in two three years later.
Speaker 4: It was just like my life. I'm like, this is
Speaker 4: it's like a great gaspy This is like a fairy tale,
Speaker 4: but it's so real.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying it was crazy.
Speaker 2: I think from the outside looking in, when you first
Speaker 2: came into the business, I feel like you put niggas
Speaker 2: on notice because there was a gap with especially young artists. Yeah, singing,
Speaker 2: the way you came out singing, it tripped. It tripped
Speaker 2: us out in the industry because by the time, because
Speaker 2: you when you crack two thousand and two, two thousand
Speaker 2: and two first, by that point, I'm already established a rider.
Speaker 2: I'm already in the game. We're doing what we're doing. Shit,
Speaker 2: we've already done that. We already started the underdogs. So
Speaker 2: we're seeing everything that's coming through, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because that's the other side of the business, right. Most
Speaker 2: artists just look at it like, oh yeah, I'm such
Speaker 2: and such. But it's like, you know, I just sell
Speaker 2: ten of y'all.
Speaker 4: Right, right, like literally that system, right, it's like yeah.
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, yeah, you good little nigga but.
Speaker 1: Records.
Speaker 4: But but when.
Speaker 2: We saw you, when we saw you, this is real shit, bro,
Speaker 2: When we saw you as like oh shit, wow, they
Speaker 2: really signed little niggas that.
Speaker 3: Can really sing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, right, like that was that was you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a grownn at this point I'm already
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I'm twenty twenty one, so I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: that little nigga. I was like, okay, I see the
Speaker 2: other team that we just did them little privalleged songs
Speaker 2: on He's sanging though, thank you, bro right. And I
Speaker 2: think that was something that I and I'll say shout
Speaker 2: out to Clive and shout out Jay Records for letting
Speaker 2: you still be a singer and then held and Warren
Speaker 2: finding the space of you making young music.
Speaker 4: That was classic though.
Speaker 3: That was right.
Speaker 2: It was like because that original, that's the thing that
Speaker 2: happens when you see the young artists.
Speaker 3: You're like, fuck, okay, what are they gonna sing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Where are they gonna sing too? I mean, but how
Speaker 2: does it not be just popcorn right right, right, facts? Facts?
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 4: It was also though that I was also very authentic
Speaker 4: and I had like I had real edge, like there
Speaker 4: was and which it was like you didn't have to
Speaker 4: make up the soul, you didn't have to make up
Speaker 4: the pain, like sometimes it takes pain to really have
Speaker 4: that ship. You know what I'm saying. I think that
Speaker 4: that was what and that is what makes my voice
Speaker 4: special when I'm on the right songs right because I
Speaker 4: cut a lot of different records, but the right songs
Speaker 4: with the right writers and the right producers.
Speaker 3: Like it's just there's something that cuts through that's more authentic.
Speaker 4: And I feel like that's important for for for labels
Speaker 4: today to understand, like where is the artist creating from?
Speaker 4: Where are we creating from with this artist? How do
Speaker 4: we When we went back and did justin Friend and
Speaker 4: I put that fifty two jersey on with ray Lewis,
Speaker 4: it was like a real thing for me. It was like, no, this,
Speaker 4: I gotta wear this one where I'm from. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I gotta wear this, but it has
Speaker 4: to be baggy and I have to have on baggy
Speaker 4: pants and I have to have on air force where
Speaker 4: we're from. You know what I'm saying. And it was
Speaker 4: like I wasn't in And I think that over the
Speaker 4: time that's that got lost, you know, with me being signed,
Speaker 4: because it was like okay, now it turned more manufacturing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We still made hits, We still mad, but it was
Speaker 2: like I start feeling myself not feeling like Okay, this
Speaker 2: is not me no more.
Speaker 4: It's like it's not. Now it's like, Okay, how do
Speaker 4: we dress them for this? How do we It's like, damn,
Speaker 4: like that got lost over the course of every album.
Speaker 4: Next you started shifting because.
Speaker 2: Coming in as a child star, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: questions because a lot of people don't.
Speaker 3: Cross that transition. What they don't cross from from being
Speaker 3: a boy perfect right, Like that is it? That is?
Speaker 2: That is that's the That's the greatest way to say it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people get stuck facts, so trying to
Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, well who is this young man? Now
Speaker 2: we signed a young boy, got a young boy? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got your bagg of this, and but you don't
Speaker 2: live in Baltimore no more either at this point.
Speaker 3: And now it's like, okay, you've been moving back though
Speaker 3: lead you.
Speaker 4: On my second After my second album, I moved back,
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure, but it wasn't neat. But it never
Speaker 4: left me bro Like, I get what you're saying, you're right,
Speaker 4: but I think what happened is that there was a
Speaker 4: lot of changes in the building and.
Speaker 3: What it was like.
Speaker 2: After my first album that's like early too, so really
Speaker 2: technically it still feels like it's late nineties right to
Speaker 2: a certain.
Speaker 3: Degree music they still think nineties are right.
Speaker 4: It's like it's crazy. It's like, nah, nigga, that's not
Speaker 4: what's going on right now. But I think that it
Speaker 4: was like what is R and B Now? During that time,
Speaker 4: we were like, you know, we knew underdogs with R
Speaker 4: and B. We knew that, but like it was like
Speaker 4: as far as this new, this new world, there was
Speaker 4: so much different. There were a lot of sub drummers
Speaker 4: being created in the early two j thousands.
Speaker 2: Right, you had Pharrell doing what he was doing. You
Speaker 2: had tell me you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You had Scott's storage and that's where Scott came in
Speaker 4: at on the project. When we did let Me Love You.
Speaker 4: It was like, okay, now like now this this, this
Speaker 4: is not this is a sub drummer.
Speaker 3: Was that his first R and B record?
Speaker 4: Nah, it wasn't on a male artist that magnitude at
Speaker 4: that time. Okay, but he didn't me myself and I
Speaker 4: he had, yeah, shout out to my nigga e s T.
Speaker 3: Listen listen, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: It was one of the first people to actually believe
Speaker 4: in me as a writer. It was like nigga, no
Speaker 4: I'm gonna write this record with you, Like you know, I.
Speaker 2: Did write where Harold Lily we we. I didn't write
Speaker 2: wh him we told. I told stories to him because.
Speaker 1: He was talk Yeah, yeah, you want to know about
Speaker 1: come on, We're.
Speaker 3: Gonna get back to Harold.
Speaker 1: That's my nigga.
Speaker 4: That's my nigga. But yeah, that that that second album
Speaker 4: Miami we recorded, Like you know, this was like Scott Storch, like.
Speaker 1: You recording in Miami?
Speaker 4: You feel me? Yeah? Yeah, there was so much inspiration was.
Speaker 3: Manson was he had, Scott would have it.
Speaker 1: He had to party famous anyone, party anyone.
Speaker 2: It was like it was crazy, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying it was it was crazy.
Speaker 4: And we were in Miami recording and you never knew
Speaker 4: what the was gonna come out of the day.
Speaker 2: Working with scottis you never knew what absolutely not, because
Speaker 2: he could work under within so much.
Speaker 3: It was so much going on, but still so much
Speaker 3: greatness happened. At the same time.
Speaker 2: I'm just like five hundred pair of sunglasses. Bro Listen,
Speaker 2: I'm like no, no, no, no, because obviously that was his thing, right, sunglasses.
Speaker 2: Some random sunglass nigga comes in in the studio, session.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I've seen a lot of shit. I've
Speaker 2: never seen a sunglass nigga come to the studio and
Speaker 2: he was like yeah, and he laid out like twenty
Speaker 2: of them at first, right, he just laid them all
Speaker 2: eye and he is like he's selling joints five hundred
Speaker 2: is he like, I'm here with Scott's stores.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know what, they don't make those those
Speaker 4: are one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: It's like watches sunglasses cars. So the nigga, Scott says.
Speaker 2: Scott just gets frustrated at this point. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he tries on about five of them.
Speaker 4: Give me all of them?
Speaker 3: He said, what else do you got?
Speaker 1: He's like a box in the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the nigga had five hundred pair of shades. The niggas,
Speaker 2: Scott said, give me all all of them.
Speaker 4: Man, got that Scott, That was Scott bro Scott.
Speaker 3: This nigga just spend fifty thousand glasses real quick.
Speaker 1: We had a shoe convention much for your whole table.
Speaker 3: But I was I know, yeah, I know how it
Speaker 3: was that.
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was it was fun, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I would say, like we had
Speaker 4: we had a lot of fun. You eighteen at this point,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm like seventeen. By the turn eighteen,
Speaker 4: that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: And George Mansion imagine.
Speaker 4: I mean we got hit records already, got hit records already,
Speaker 4: so everything was circulating, All the energy was circulated.
Speaker 3: I mean the girls were certainly and less certainly.
Speaker 4: I mean I see all the girls that back then
Speaker 4: that you might have thought was like the bat like
Speaker 4: the joints, that's like still some of today's they still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was in there while we recorded. He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, so it's like, you know who has like that?
Speaker 2: And that was I would think that was the first
Speaker 2: time me experiencing like rock and roll.
Speaker 4: The industry, like something like this ship is like this,
Speaker 4: And but then you had cash money in Miami. It
Speaker 4: was a lot of energy in Miami that I was.
Speaker 4: I'm like, because I was with Scott, I was seeing
Speaker 4: all of it at that time. It was like a
Speaker 4: lot going on.
Speaker 3: They were all pulling up. It was crazy.
Speaker 4: So in the midst of all of that, we're creating
Speaker 4: great R and B Right were already working for like
Speaker 4: a good couple of weeks. Scott flies and Neo. Neil
Speaker 4: come in. He had him and like my person, and
Speaker 4: he had a little bad joint with him that he brought.
Speaker 4: He was on the other side. There was another house
Speaker 4: and Nel was recording there like across the street, and
Speaker 4: I think Scott sent him a packer went through a
Speaker 4: pack of beats, if I can remember correctly, Scott. Don't
Speaker 4: he always like you're sucking up the story.
Speaker 3: If I fun up the story, Scott, forgive me. I just.
Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, So he's pack of beats and Neo
Speaker 4: just does what he does. Man just going over there writing.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying in his own world. He
Speaker 4: brings back let Me Love You track. There's another writer
Speaker 4: producer by the name of Cam that was a part
Speaker 4: of it at this time. One day will be me
Speaker 4: writing with Sts writing, and the other day would be
Speaker 4: me just cutting records that you know, people were. Neil
Speaker 4: brought in let Me Love You in a couple of heat.
Speaker 4: There's another record that I cut. We cut let Me
Speaker 4: Love You that night. I didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 4: I'm just cutting records. I'm just like, Okay, it's another
Speaker 4: great song. I'm just gonna do what I'm great at
Speaker 4: it's just like making my own. We cut the record,
Speaker 4: we'll come back the next day, and the files for
Speaker 4: whatever reason, had completely deleted to that record. So we're like, yo,
Speaker 4: we gotta cut this record again again like before we
Speaker 4: like play it for label play. We cut it again,
Speaker 4: but this time I was already living with it, you know,
Speaker 4: took the record. I was in a different space with
Speaker 4: the record, right, and I just remember cutting it and
Speaker 4: just doing like passes because I'd already you know, got
Speaker 4: used to We just it passes and incomptent or whatever,
Speaker 4: we go back play the record. I remember sitting at
Speaker 4: clive desks and with Clive like, you couldn't just like
Speaker 4: play a record. You had to bring the lyric sheet. Yes,
Speaker 4: you had to, like you know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 4: had to bring the whole So we go in the
Speaker 4: studio with him. It's me, Troy, I think Larry Jackson
Speaker 4: was there, Peter Clive, and we're playing the record and
Speaker 4: everybody's like, yeah, this record is a smash. At the time,
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't know
Speaker 4: what it was. I knew it was special, I knew
Speaker 4: it felt good. I knew it was original and it
Speaker 4: felt new, but I was studying everything else was going on.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, ill sure it just came out with Yeah,
Speaker 4: confessions just came out. I'm like, nah, I need something sexier,
Speaker 4: I need something more. But then we were just going
Speaker 4: back and forth, but they knew what it was. I
Speaker 4: can't even lie. I knew it was special, but I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was that hit and put the record up.
Speaker 4: Clive had a couple of changes he wanted to make,
Speaker 4: but other than that, it was just it was out
Speaker 4: of here. It was out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give you all my experience with that record.
Speaker 2: So obviously I have the second single on that album.
Speaker 3: Right, we've been told we have the first single.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know I didn't even get Yeah. We'll segue yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll get to the segue with how that how that
Speaker 2: all transpired. But you know, the music business from a
Speaker 2: writer producer side, you have those conversations with the n
Speaker 2: R with the label and they're like yo, yo, So
Speaker 2: this record is gonna be visited, and at this point,
Speaker 2: the underdogs, we're on fire crazy, So.
Speaker 3: If you're coming there, we're getting the first single.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how it goes right, but nobody even
Speaker 2: knows you're From our standpoint, we don't even know you
Speaker 2: have been in Miami doing records with Scott Storage. Wow,
Speaker 2: because you know it's it's it's not like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: who else, And it's just like, yo, you come in
Speaker 2: to get a Underdog record's gonna probably.
Speaker 3: And he's on SIS here after plund and he's.
Speaker 2: On Jay Records, which was Underdog Records for a minute
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: So I'm in San Francisco. I never forget this ship.
Speaker 2: And Neo isn't like I think, I want to say
Speaker 2: he's new at this.
Speaker 3: Point, he's not even and he's just talking about your record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't heard it yet. And he's saying, I
Speaker 2: wrote Mario's record.
Speaker 3: So one of my No. No.
Speaker 2: One of my niggas, big Vin, big Vin calls me.
Speaker 2: He's like, didn't you write Mario's first single? And I'm
Speaker 2: like yeah.
Speaker 3: He like, it's some new nigga. Man, he got like
Speaker 3: the matrix name. Nigga says name Neo right, because he
Speaker 3: don't really.
Speaker 2: Know who he is, and he like and this nigga
Speaker 2: saying he wrote the record. I'm like, maybe he wrote
Speaker 2: another record. But from my understanding, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you write this word call let me love you?
Speaker 3: And I'm like no. He' like that shit is smash crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, we don't have.
Speaker 4: The first single.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: This is how I find out. I'm at home, Nigga.
Speaker 2: I go up to the radio station. They play the records.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, and this is what I
Speaker 2: said to I think I might either call Damon or
Speaker 2: I called Harvey and I said.
Speaker 3: They might not never get to how could you?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: They was a word I said, Nigga, his first single.
Speaker 2: It's about to be playing for the next year. I
Speaker 2: don't know when. How could you?
Speaker 3: It's going to go crazy.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's first time I heard it. One time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this record, there's nothing wrong with it. Everything's
Speaker 2: right vocally, lyrically, the movement of the song.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, bro, what the fuck? I
Speaker 3: was pissed. I was like, that's my dog, and I'm
Speaker 3: happy you got another one. He about to get cracking again.
Speaker 2: I'm pissed though, because I also knew what how could
Speaker 2: You was, and I wrote it about some personal ship too,
Speaker 2: so it's.
Speaker 4: Like, oh man, that's crazy. Honestly speaking, I didn't know
Speaker 4: until later that you actually wrote that record.
Speaker 3: I thought back Dawkins wrote.
Speaker 2: It what Eric worded with us, right like, so no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no, no no, So this is this is okay the backstory
Speaker 2: to that record. I mean Eric and myself both told
Speaker 2: the story together and separately, and we tell the same
Speaker 2: exact story.
Speaker 3: We both had situations that we drew from.
Speaker 2: Mine was literally a very immature high school situation and
Speaker 2: his was his grown right, And that's how we merged
Speaker 2: the record, and that's where the title came from. And
Speaker 2: really the whole ghetto conversation Ship was just me being stupid, right, literally,
Speaker 2: like just me being in the studio being stupid. And
Speaker 2: at the time, the girl I was dating was really
Speaker 2: on some like have you heard about this karma suture stuff?
Speaker 2: And it's trying to like, you know, you know, girls
Speaker 2: always want to introduce you to something like have you
Speaker 2: heard some reading this? And I'm like, some people just
Speaker 2: they're just in a lock for eight hours.
Speaker 3: This is what this man, This ship sounds stupid right
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 2: So but I'm starting to read about it and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: soon as freaking ship, Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 4: They always asked me, what is the ghetto karma suture?
Speaker 4: I mean, I tell my own story about it. But
Speaker 4: here you go from the word get the hood version.
Speaker 3: It is just the hood version.
Speaker 1: It's like just the exactly this.
Speaker 3: Is the beauty of what we do.
Speaker 4: Man, you can be like some people can be a
Speaker 4: part of your journey of greatness and you might not
Speaker 4: even know. You know what I'm saying. We are like
Speaker 4: a part of each other's story growth and and ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This crazy is a full
Speaker 4: circle moment.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Before we made.
Speaker 3: History, yeah no, absolutely.
Speaker 2: When we his you finally got to the record, it
Speaker 2: still became a hit record, let Me Love You.
Speaker 3: It was like let Me Love You was the rocket
Speaker 3: ship that stayed in the air.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was just like still a history, history
Speaker 1: making record.
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody that was a part of that.
Speaker 1: But how could you? How could you? Is the record
Speaker 1: that upset me? Yeah yeah, because because the.
Speaker 3: The other part was where were you that you should
Speaker 3: I don't know where it was you were supposed to
Speaker 3: be a part.
Speaker 1: Of that was all there.
Speaker 2: This is at this point, we're all so named all
Speaker 2: under that we were at this point, you got to
Speaker 2: the underdogs when we were literally.
Speaker 3: When I came to it was it was a revolver.
Speaker 3: It was a machine at this point. Bro.
Speaker 4: When I walked in the studio that day, they had
Speaker 4: some just chocolate beautiful girl working and you always had some.
Speaker 1: Vibes over there by.
Speaker 3: You always had theirs.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, She's one of the reasons why
Speaker 4: I saw so good on that record.
Speaker 3: She was older than me.
Speaker 4: She came in the studio while I was singing it
Speaker 4: and literally sat in the room the whole time I
Speaker 4: sang the fucking record. I know who she is, but
Speaker 4: I'm not about to give her that fucking.
Speaker 3: Shout out right now. Fired up.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know it like that, but I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about it.
Speaker 4: But it was just the energy over there was was
Speaker 4: very R and B. You know that definitely was the
Speaker 4: difference from working with other people. Is when you walked
Speaker 4: into Emmons building and there was another building too, but
Speaker 4: that was the one I recorded, and you knew you
Speaker 4: was getting some real R and B and everybody in
Speaker 4: there was about that, and you knew you had to
Speaker 4: deliver because everybody could sing everybody was vocalist and everything
Speaker 4: with Harvey vocal producing it. It was just like.
Speaker 1: You delivered on that record, like you delivered like a
Speaker 1: grown ass man on that record. Yes, And I felt
Speaker 1: like she was. I wasn't out of I was on
Speaker 1: the bench, you know what I'm saying at the time,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't put no records out. I was just
Speaker 1: right at that time. And I felt like I felt
Speaker 1: like you were tampering with, you know, with my nuance,
Speaker 1: and you was cooking and I was like, this motherfucker's crazy,
Speaker 1: And where was I to not get on this at least?
Speaker 1: Like that right there substantiated you for me as a
Speaker 1: grown man? How could you did that for me? I
Speaker 1: thought you could. You should let me love you. It
Speaker 1: was a great, great monstrous record, right, not taking anything
Speaker 1: from that, but I felt like that edge that is
Speaker 1: Mario and lyricism.
Speaker 4: And livery we were talking about it.
Speaker 1: I felt like you was in there singing like this
Speaker 1: for sure. I felt like you was. You had to
Speaker 1: face on when you were singing that. I said, because a.
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate you, because I remember even when you
Speaker 2: needed that conversation came up.
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, we gotta play him? How could you? Right?
Speaker 3: When when niggas, I was like, because I'm sure you
Speaker 3: at least five records to play. But I'm like, is
Speaker 3: he grown? This was my thought. I was like, is
Speaker 3: he grown enough for that? Because that record was a
Speaker 3: very like like I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, I wrote it from a mental set of time
Speaker 2: where I was younger, but I wrote it as a
Speaker 2: grown man too, and we were having grown man conversation
Speaker 2: in that studio, myself, Damon Harvey in my life.
Speaker 3: Right, little did y'all know my life?
Speaker 4: That's the thing I don't know yet.
Speaker 3: All I know everything was fast forward.
Speaker 2: I know, brave my head, I know, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, that's what that's four years prior. Though
Speaker 2: a lot can happen in four years walking you're still eighteen,
Speaker 2: only twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 3: Them niggas thirty, right, that's facts.
Speaker 2: They super grown, you know what I'm saying. Niggas got
Speaker 2: kids already. I ain't had nothing yet, but like the
Speaker 2: whole bill, niggas got kids.
Speaker 3: Niggas got mortgages, right, So it's like, oh, yeah, he cold,
Speaker 3: but you think you're gonna pull it off vocally? Right?
Speaker 2: And if you hear, and I'm sure you know it.
Speaker 2: Eric Dawkins demo to.
Speaker 3: That record, it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: But you came after that and saying that record, like
Speaker 2: you said, made it your own, which and literally was
Speaker 2: the topic of the conversation in that building for a
Speaker 2: good week or two before.
Speaker 3: Obviously before the song ever came out with Niggas was like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: they broke and that's right, we just did this new
Speaker 3: one with this kid. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate the whole journey, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: All of that shit is important to me, all of
Speaker 4: the knowledge, all every every single step of it, because
Speaker 4: it's still a long way to go? Are you thirty seven?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Young still twenty five years almost in the game?
Speaker 5: Yeah thirty seven, yes, young man, Yes, sir, if I
Speaker 5: could be thirty seven, it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy with the hot grease.
Speaker 1: Oh you clown.
Speaker 3: Got at you.
Speaker 4: Take said that you're gonna make some of the best
Speaker 4: music we ever made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he said, yeah, he's saying.
Speaker 1: He said, I got ideas for the young Chap. Absolutely, Mario,
Speaker 1: you've been doing this for quite sometime. My Brady Moms
Speaker 1: Mini moves. You've shared many stages over the decades. Some
Speaker 1: of this music that you've been listening to that has
Speaker 1: helped shape them. The world that is Mario, the music
Speaker 1: that is Mario, the style.
Speaker 4: That is Mario.
Speaker 1: Do people want to get into your money? They want
Speaker 1: to know, sorry taking so long with Niche. They want
Speaker 1: to know for the Murrios. Top five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, your top five? Come on, come on with f
Speaker 3: your top five. I be leasing.
Speaker 1: Worrying me songs. We are not doing it from Aunton
Speaker 1: bang got.
Speaker 3: Soul, Go and go to your top.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Top five is crazy. Okay, my top five, yourself, my
Speaker 3: top five I had.
Speaker 4: You know, I've been thinking about this.
Speaker 1: Mario, your top and B singers.
Speaker 3: I'm just right now away from them to get to
Speaker 3: number two, number two.
Speaker 1: Top five, Army singers, No Order, No Good or live
Speaker 1: you know your world.
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, Yeah, come on, come on, come to Stevie Wonder. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye, although not one person, the whole group, but
Speaker 4: boister men, it's got to be come on now. The
Speaker 4: last person I left ambiguous for the day because I
Speaker 4: don't it's it's such a a.
Speaker 3: Tough pick, but I'm gonna pick this person.
Speaker 4: Because damn, this is the last one's tough. I'll say
Speaker 4: Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston, and I picked the people that
Speaker 4: made me feel something very just spiritually through the way
Speaker 4: that they, you know, delivered songs and or their presence,
Speaker 4: like the presence you were speaking about earlier that doesn't
Speaker 4: have anything to do with music. Each one of those people,
Speaker 4: I feel like they just they're just special, like just
Speaker 4: special beings that just happen to have this gift. So
Speaker 4: those are definitely my top five for.
Speaker 1: Sure, solid top five R and B songs.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm alaun B song, Okay Baby Be Mine Michael
Speaker 4: Jackson mm hmm on Bended Knee Voice the Man I
Speaker 4: have nothing hm hmm with in Houston.
Speaker 1: The songs go down. I get it standards, all.
Speaker 4: The things Joe, Joe and I got one more. But
Speaker 4: the reason I say all the things come on a
Speaker 4: lot of people be like, yo, man, let me love you.
Speaker 4: That's that's a crazy like take your take, your take
Speaker 4: your girl's song, take another niggad girl song. Like no
Speaker 4: Joe started this ship. He said all the things your
Speaker 4: man won't to do, but he did it in a
Speaker 4: way that was like so like you can't be mad
Speaker 4: at it because we already felt that way before about something.
Speaker 3: He said, why are all the good girls taking? Every time?
Speaker 4: Why are the good girls taking?
Speaker 3: Why do I keep falling in love with someone Else's done?
Speaker 3: Talking about Dirty Man Ship Joe. The last song.
Speaker 4: I would have to say my personal favorite one of
Speaker 4: them Stevie Wonder Overjoyed Just yeah, Stevie.
Speaker 3: Wonder Castle Blood Yeah.
Speaker 4: The imagination he put into his lyricsism, I feel like
Speaker 4: it's a lost art. I think imagination is a lost
Speaker 4: art in creativity, like in terms of you know, mainstream music.
Speaker 4: We got to get back to that space where we
Speaker 4: were seeing things that we never seen before. The missis
Speaker 4: rhymes the hearing things, seeing like the whole you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Nobody's eveing close to making no ship like that.
Speaker 3: Nah, it's crazy musically, it's crazy, nigga, But.
Speaker 2: We have we also have to be adventurous enough and
Speaker 2: bold enough to do it and you're into and to
Speaker 2: let the world decide if they're going to love it
Speaker 2: or not, and for us not to feel like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm not giving them what they know.
Speaker 3: I'm giving them what I feel like they need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, because we get caught up in that
Speaker 2: and that's the other side of having real power and
Speaker 2: real ownership in yourself because you can make those decisions
Speaker 2: now because you can't.
Speaker 3: You know, Listen, fifteen twenty years ago, you could have said,
Speaker 3: oh well they said I had to right. No, for sure,
Speaker 3: we all know.
Speaker 2: But I think I think new citizens, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: can make them record size he feels to make.
Speaker 4: But I think I think it's a way to do
Speaker 4: it and to because part of our job is to
Speaker 4: get people excited about being a part of what we're doing,
Speaker 4: absolutely creating, and I think there's a way to get
Speaker 4: people excited again about making art that you know, every
Speaker 4: label wants a artist is going to be performing at
Speaker 4: award shows or on artist that's going to be considered
Speaker 4: in these because it helps to push the narrative for
Speaker 4: it helps the streams, it helps everything.
Speaker 3: Is like.
Speaker 4: Finding a space where you can be authentic is very hard, right,
Speaker 4: But I feel like if you do it right and
Speaker 4: you have the right creatives involved with you, then I
Speaker 4: feel like you can have a good chance at doing
Speaker 4: it on a major stage, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I feel like you also have to have the
Speaker 4: talent as well as the catalog to do it. And
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in that space. So that's why
Speaker 4: I said the responsibility of being great is you have
Speaker 4: to consider all of these things when you're about to release,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, going to a project cycle
Speaker 4: and that's like it's one of my main my main
Speaker 4: things right now is make sure I stay true to that,
Speaker 4: like don't get lost in the oh. Just of course
Speaker 4: this record it sounds like a hit, No, like like
Speaker 4: create what is going to be the next standard? It's
Speaker 4: a responsibility.
Speaker 1: We won't do your Vultron. We're gonna make with R
Speaker 1: and B artists. We want to know who you're going
Speaker 1: to get the vocal from, the performance style, from the styling,
Speaker 1: from the passion of the artist.
Speaker 4: The heart of the artists come from James Brown.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna start to what you're gonna get? You
Speaker 1: want to start. Passion comes from James Brown, who's one
Speaker 1: of the baddest motherfuckers ever.
Speaker 4: The passion comes from James even.
Speaker 1: The way he talks it sound who feel.
Speaker 3: It's all right? It's all orders, it's all orders. It's
Speaker 3: very sergeant.
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the vocal from?
Speaker 4: There's so many ways to go with this because it's
Speaker 4: just like you know, it's it's so many amazing ones.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the vocal from. Can it be a
Speaker 4: mixture of two people.
Speaker 1: It has to be submissive, ultra ultimate vocal.
Speaker 3: It's a mixture between Whitney and.
Speaker 4: All right, take it away, sorry Whitney and lovey. Mixture
Speaker 4: between Stevie and Michael. Vocal wise, yeah, because with Michael
Speaker 4: you get the the Tomming, the texture I'm sorry, the Tomming,
Speaker 4: the conviction, the.
Speaker 3: Where he can go with his voice. With Stevie.
Speaker 4: You get the colors, you get everything in between. I
Speaker 4: would mix those two.
Speaker 1: I think Stevie is the classic portion of your vocal,
Speaker 1: whereas Michael was that early, right, but then Michael graduated
Speaker 1: into a stylist that Yeah, that set him that at
Speaker 1: any point, if you do anything remotely close to whim,
Speaker 1: it's him. Oh you're trying to be.
Speaker 3: Like my signature. I studied Michael.
Speaker 4: I don't lie, I study, but I study. I study.
Speaker 3: So I think my.
Speaker 4: Voice is a mixture between Michael, Stephen, and Marvin. If
Speaker 4: I was to put my voice together with three people,
Speaker 4: that Joe and.
Speaker 3: There to.
Speaker 1: Joe all of that conversation. Get it.
Speaker 3: Michael Linham too. Hell yeah, Charlie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say, Joe, Charlie, Wow, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And I gotta find you a false settle. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: had a fault? Who had a false?
Speaker 4: Like Maxwell?
Speaker 3: Maxwell had a crazy force.
Speaker 1: I love Max.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Max has a nice floating false you have. You have
Speaker 1: ship in your false like I come from the false world.
Speaker 1: That's got a nasty false.
Speaker 4: Yeah clean, He does have a clean fuss.
Speaker 1: I put all three of those together and that's like, now.
Speaker 4: He has a clean fuss.
Speaker 1: You're in that space you because you have an honesty.
Speaker 1: It's like you said, you have a conviction and an honesty,
Speaker 1: and it's sincerity in your voice, which is why, like
Speaker 1: those heartfelt records always like you can do anything. Let's
Speaker 1: get that out the way. But nigga, when you when
Speaker 1: you when you look into a woman's eyes and say
Speaker 1: some real ship to her, nigga, she fucking believes you
Speaker 1: God for sure. Performance style? Whose performance style?
Speaker 4: Performance style a mixture between Bobby Brown and Michael mm hmm.
Speaker 4: You want to hump the stage and moon walk.
Speaker 3: But Michael was clean like Michael Michas Brown CB Yo,
Speaker 3: god c B.
Speaker 2: I even got a picture people style of.
Speaker 3: C B, but c B mixed with more uh like
Speaker 3: like like yeah c B c B.
Speaker 4: I would say more like more clean mic but not
Speaker 4: but see.
Speaker 3: You do that.
Speaker 1: Micha was able to do another thing and dance that
Speaker 1: he was able to do infocals created signature that at
Speaker 1: this point for un avoidable. Yeah you want to dance,
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit something, Mike, It's avoidable.
Speaker 3: Crazy, bro, Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Because it was geometry. Michael was geometry. Hell yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's all gam tree I was.
Speaker 4: It's crazy because I was watching this thing.
Speaker 3: The other day. What was it?
Speaker 4: Snake in the grass where.
Speaker 1: It comes from?
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this ship is all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People don't even.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, all of it, even down
Speaker 3: to the outfit.
Speaker 4: And and and the metaphors in his conversation, Yeah yeah
Speaker 4: about it. It's like music. Michael was very spiritual in
Speaker 4: his music. Music was very mystical.
Speaker 3: Press was also going to be in my top five artists.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, my and my vulture on
Speaker 4: because he played every instrument he performed he was unpredictable
Speaker 4: for sure. So he's definitely in my vulture for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I seen that clip when he told uh, he ran
Speaker 2: into the homie at the club that he had fell
Speaker 2: out with andreamon. He said, they said, how did you
Speaker 2: How did you work it out when you see me
Speaker 2: say something?
Speaker 4: Come get this hit, don't get it? Come get this hit?
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 4: Then he said, wait, you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna go tomorrow at twelve. Yeah, And I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is fucking Prince Bro, Like, who runs up on you?
Speaker 3: Y'all got y'all got full b y'all not with each
Speaker 3: other at all, but you know you the magic man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: come get this hit. Come holler at me crazy. We
Speaker 3: don't like who does that? Now you gotta start running on.
Speaker 1: Nobody, but come get this hit.
Speaker 3: It's a couple of niggas. Might be still mad at
Speaker 3: you about drink champs, but you might have to. He
Speaker 3: was honest stuff. Hey, listen, this is a new world.
Speaker 4: Everybody can't handle that honesty.
Speaker 3: Everybody can handle. Real ship means no harm.
Speaker 1: Styling of the artists.
Speaker 4: Hmmm, the drip. I think the drip who had crazy Drip?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, uh, because then you're just thinking about genre.
Speaker 4: You think about error, right, because there's so many different errors.
Speaker 3: Got this, who's the flies? Flies?
Speaker 1: I got close the artists, but naked.
Speaker 3: The backstage Right now we're figuring it out.
Speaker 1: We got a horse stand by.
Speaker 3: There ain't no wardrobe, got putist. You can't just put
Speaker 3: my artist in anything. You know, they have to be styled.
Speaker 4: I mean I think if someone who takes their wardrobe seriously,
Speaker 4: I would say that the mindset of Stalin, of Beyonce,
Speaker 4: the mindset yeah yeah. The reason why I say that
Speaker 4: is because whether it be a male Voltron or a
Speaker 4: female Votron, her her mindset of how she put our
Speaker 4: shows together and how serious she takes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unmatched, so that you're not running to the mall
Speaker 1: find those clothes.
Speaker 4: Everything is it's custom, custom made, superstart.
Speaker 1: What we're doing right now, danswers everybody every day everything
Speaker 1: this is. This is not just a sonic experience.
Speaker 3: And you see somebody run to it, Oh you look
Speaker 3: like right, and everybody dressing.
Speaker 1: Everybody I had all shipped with silver on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's Vigo fashion, man, you gotta love it. It's
Speaker 4: like everything needs to be an experience, right, We get
Speaker 4: back to that though. We get back to that, by
Speaker 4: the way. So yeah, this this, this is this album,
Speaker 4: what we're creating right now, you know, this new era
Speaker 4: of Mario. I think that my fans deserve it. Music
Speaker 4: deserves it. I deserve it. The people that I'm working
Speaker 4: with deserve it. I mean excited about the conversations we've
Speaker 4: been having and just really creating it. We already have
Speaker 4: the name of the tour. I already have everything. It's
Speaker 4: already happening for me. When I go to sleep at night,
Speaker 4: I'm already on stage singing the new songs.
Speaker 1: You know that feeling, you know that feeling I drive
Speaker 1: in silence doing everything. That's feeling is that it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. That's that's exactly what you're talking about, that feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've come. Oh we've come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying no saying no name, saying what you need.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, we've come to this day important, specially
Speaker 2: going on the show. Hey man, this is you know,
Speaker 2: this is serious, ship man serious. So right now we're
Speaker 2: at the segment of the show it's called I ain't
Speaker 2: saying no names.
Speaker 4: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying that I
Speaker 4: ain't saying no name, no no no names, saying we.
Speaker 2: Said some names, we shout some people out. But now
Speaker 2: it's time to tell your story funny or fucked up?
Speaker 2: Are funny and fucked up?
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a few of them.
Speaker 2: You're doing, you are, Mario, so you can tell us
Speaker 2: all of them if you would like. Okay, let's see
Speaker 2: so real quick right now, right now.
Speaker 3: The only rule to the game. I ain't saying that
Speaker 3: you can't do it.
Speaker 1: Say no.
Speaker 4: I've never been a name dropping I know that about me.
Speaker 3: You'll know I ain't the nigga to be.
Speaker 4: This ain't it.
Speaker 3: I don't even like games like this. You like it?
Speaker 4: You like you like if the games is moving silad noah,
Speaker 4: But okay, I had it to a it headed to
Speaker 4: a private event, private jet.
Speaker 2: Like oh the jet too, oh, private event on a
Speaker 2: private private event on a private jet.
Speaker 4: It's me one of my representations. There's a lady, beautiful lady,
Speaker 4: a little bit older than me at the time that
Speaker 4: I'm like twenty two. Maybe a couple other people see.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I should tell this story, because ladies,
Speaker 4: listen when I tell you this story. This ain't no
Speaker 4: kissing and telling type shit. This is just like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, This ain't I don't do this,
Speaker 4: but it's funny. It's the first thing that came to
Speaker 4: my mind while I think about all this shit to tell.
Speaker 4: Were on the jet, anybody going to sleep? Just me
Speaker 4: and a young lady up were sipping. But it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's a bed in the back, everybody else
Speaker 4: sleeping on the outside. Man, I passed up on an
Speaker 4: experience because I was I wasn't like I was shy
Speaker 4: ish at the moment, and it was just it was
Speaker 4: a lot of people around, but it was sleep and
Speaker 4: this young ladies like you were older lady. But the
Speaker 4: young lady she's like, yo, let's go to the back.
Speaker 4: But I was also a fan, and I'm like, this
Speaker 4: is not this is really about to happen right now
Speaker 4: like this, and so we get you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She get up, she goes to the back. She basically
Speaker 4: invited me to the back of the plane with jet joint.
Speaker 4: I'm like, fucking, I'm about to go. I'm about to
Speaker 4: do this. Take a little sip, get to the back,
Speaker 4: close the door. We start to ride for a minute,
Speaker 4: just then fucking crazy turbulentce stuff.
Speaker 3: No, I swear God when I tell you, when.
Speaker 4: I tell you, the turbulence got everybody woke up, create everybody.
Speaker 3: So we're up. And if I tell you who it is,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be like, oh.
Speaker 4: My, but this is like, this is like when a
Speaker 4: thing popping right now and the Lord.
Speaker 2: Bro. And it never the moment never really presented, you know,
Speaker 2: the moment, it never really presented itself.
Speaker 1: Again, We've all been there.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It was like, damn God, what did I do to
Speaker 3: what I did? I did something what I do to
Speaker 3: deserve that? It was crazy, it was.
Speaker 4: It was about to be crazy. But yeah, you want
Speaker 4: to run that back for to run that back, but
Speaker 4: it was like already you know it's crazy. God, you
Speaker 4: could have run that back.
Speaker 1: Gave me one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of them. It was.
Speaker 4: It was one of them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was it was.
Speaker 4: It would have been an upper upper echelon. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was crazy. See, I mean yeah, I got a few stories. Okay,
Speaker 4: exclusive man, this might owe me publishing on a record
Speaker 4: they owed you. They owe me because of an opportunity
Speaker 4: that was fought for for them. And then they renegged
Speaker 4: on the whole ship. I had an agreement, agreement, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do this for you because it seemed like the
Speaker 4: right thing to do, but I'm gonna need this. But
Speaker 4: to this day, that's always argued that, Nah, that ain't
Speaker 4: the way the story went, you know, And sometimes in
Speaker 4: the game you think like, damn, this is my big bro,
Speaker 4: this is this yeah, and it happened, and it's like damn,
Speaker 4: you know it was. It was a hard lesson to
Speaker 4: learn that I can't really undo because this is already done.
Speaker 4: Can't you know what I'm saying, thought about it, argued
Speaker 4: about it, you know what I'm saying. But it's like
Speaker 4: crazy because it's like it's one of the things where
Speaker 4: I probably I don't know if I'm gonna work with
Speaker 4: the person again because of that, and we could probably
Speaker 4: make an amazing music. But it's like that's crazy, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I don't know if y'all been
Speaker 4: in that situation before, but it's fucked up. It's a
Speaker 4: fucked up feeling when it's like damn, it's like it's
Speaker 4: like taking advantage of the opportunity, you know, and it's
Speaker 4: not even worth it, right, we all getting money.
Speaker 1: Like, there's so much of it, it's like a lot.
Speaker 1: There's no reason to ruin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think for me personally, I've always
Speaker 2: took the stance of I'll just go ahead second. We
Speaker 2: figured that out, you know what I'm saying, Like players
Speaker 2: don't keep scoring. I look at life, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I believe that our gifts mm hmm are
Speaker 2: more valuable than anything else.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: You know that the opportunity to the work again, or
Speaker 2: just the opportunity to just feel good in that same
Speaker 2: room with somebody like person man, even if even if
Speaker 2: I had to be the one to give them the extra,
Speaker 2: it's still like, you know what, We're good, brot.
Speaker 3: It's all good. So I understand it.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, get your take split sheets to the sessions.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure you cannot. You can sue based on hearsay,
Speaker 1: but it's a very expensive process to win. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: the split sits, y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like it's like a weird thing in the studio.
Speaker 3: It depends though.
Speaker 4: I think motherfuckers who like really love this ship and
Speaker 4: who really like respect the art and really respect what's
Speaker 4: going on, Like it's No, there's no real problem with
Speaker 4: saying like yo, even if not especially it's text message
Speaker 4: group text like yo, you're gonna and if you trust
Speaker 4: them then you do that then.
Speaker 1: But like, but it's just like what happens is is
Speaker 1: that we are just humans, and as humans we are unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Our situation and circumstances can become unpredictable and lead all
Speaker 1: of us individuals into some different places to where that
Speaker 1: conversation that was happening then I felt good. I felt
Speaker 1: great about it then.
Speaker 4: Or the record and the opportunity itself turns into something
Speaker 4: bigger and everybody like.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: See what I normally get. You know, I don't even
Speaker 1: normally really do.
Speaker 2: I think the other part too, And this is something
Speaker 2: that I would say to all writers. Be honest with
Speaker 2: yourself about your participation. And I think a lot of
Speaker 2: times people aren't honest that sometimes you were just in
Speaker 2: the room.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just put the play together.
Speaker 4: Be like I'm gonna need such and such percentage on
Speaker 4: this publishing from just putting a play together last minute
Speaker 4: or it won't happen type ship. There's so many ways
Speaker 4: that people play with this ship. You know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying list, and to me, I'm cool with it as
Speaker 4: long as it makes sense.
Speaker 1: As long as it's articulated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but as long as it makes sense, Bro, he's
Speaker 4: not gonna bully me off some ship.
Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation, that's yeah for sure. Let's have
Speaker 1: a real conversation and really write this ship down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, whatever is agreed upon, it's a great We
Speaker 1: don't even have to rehashit it no more. Look at
Speaker 1: this paper man that I that I email to my
Speaker 1: to all of our lawyers. Yeah, it shouldn't be uncomfortable
Speaker 1: handling that type of business. Shouldn't be uncomfortable. It should
Speaker 1: just be honest. Like us we get in the room,
Speaker 1: we just nigga who always in here with us, travel up.
Speaker 1: But we also want to make sure that you know
Speaker 1: we're official too. Nigga, you run a business.
Speaker 4: Man for sure.
Speaker 3: It ain't I didn't have them sometimes it's I don't
Speaker 3: do sessions like that no more.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 4: Like it's like, if you're in the room, you're a contributor. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you the homie, you just popping through something.
Speaker 4: But like, I'm so energetically sensitive. My energy is very
Speaker 4: sensitive to things. That's why I don't always, you know,
Speaker 4: I always so use like Nigga, come to do it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, we're gonna do it at the right timing.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm happy that this is happening right
Speaker 4: now because I do think it's the time is person figure.
Speaker 4: I love this new space that and the energy is
Speaker 4: amazing here. We definitely gonna come here and make some shit. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: you know, make some hiss, but like you know, everything
Speaker 4: is like we had a space now, it's not we
Speaker 4: don't have time to waste energy. It's purposeful. It's got
Speaker 4: to be that, you know. I take it that serious,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I love where R and
Speaker 4: B is at right now. I love where we are,
Speaker 4: and I love the platforms we got and I think
Speaker 4: people are wanting that again. People are. You said something
Speaker 4: in the drink Tramps in an interview. You were like,
Speaker 4: it's the love that they're afraid of our love, right,
Speaker 4: And that can come in so many different forms, but
Speaker 4: typically love is honest, right. It's if it's ugly, it's ugly.
Speaker 4: If it's beautiful, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Let the art be what it is.
Speaker 4: Every art piece is not the same, but let artists
Speaker 4: be the most perfected version of what it is that
Speaker 4: they are, and let's give that to the world. If
Speaker 4: it wins, it wins, if it doesn't. What you did,
Speaker 4: you just gave an artist another reason to keep going great.
Speaker 4: When Quincy and Michael was doing do you think they
Speaker 4: knew exactly what Thriller was gonna be? I just think
Speaker 4: they did exactly what the fuck They felt like it
Speaker 4: was great to them at the highest level, and the
Speaker 4: world was like, oh, ship embraced. We got to get
Speaker 4: back to that. That's what New Citizen is. Baby, You're
Speaker 4: about to get to.
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