WEBVTT - Mario

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks take Valanchi. We are the authority on all things

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<v Speaker 1>R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine and this is the Ry Money Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell her what come you go here? Okay, you started off.

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<v Speaker 1>All things R and B. Voco, I'm sitting this ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you being vocal?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you big? There's a difference between an R and

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<v Speaker 1>B artists When a R and B singer.

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<v Speaker 4>Off camera, I want to say, there's a difference between

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<v Speaker 4>a hit and a classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, it's starting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I'm not gonna say too much else here,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Mario, that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Yeah, before we start, I noticed your thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we start, I just want to say congratulations man.

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<v Speaker 4>To R and B you understand.

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<v Speaker 3>And and to y'all, I don't have no drink drinkers.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it just in case I wanted to ship

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<v Speaker 4>on something. But you know what we've done coming from

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<v Speaker 4>the DMV, you got d m V, you got the

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<v Speaker 4>Bay Area in here, like what we've done, what we've

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<v Speaker 4>sustained you know for this, for for R and B

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<v Speaker 4>and the game is it's not an easy feat for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. And I want to say

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<v Speaker 4>congratulations you, thank you for open doors that you've opened.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, my Bay Area brother, and

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's do this man, R R and B money,

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<v Speaker 4>RMB money.

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<v Speaker 3>Today for R and B money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked in looking like R and B money money.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we talked. We talked in we talked in Atlanta. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and I said something to you that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even you were able like you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to really expound on and articulating and we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning and all that. But yeah, I said, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having You're having a hell of a moment right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And it actually has nothing to do with music. It

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<v Speaker 1>has everything just to do with him with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, man, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like your your essence and

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<v Speaker 1>your movements and just nigga, you just standing there smiling

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, putting your trip on there. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing to be talked about and appreciate it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that goes to or goes back to all of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that we were taught early. Yes, aren't really necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>talk anymore. Like the presence of an artist should be

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<v Speaker 1>something that means walk in the room. Yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to know you and that motherfucker before you say a word.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And that's I think that it's something that needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be protected and taught. And some of you you

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<v Speaker 4>can't teach, right, But just the awareness of it, of

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<v Speaker 4>what you're saying is so important because when you start

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<v Speaker 4>so young in the game, sometimes situations the process will

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<v Speaker 4>make you forget who you are, not as a talent,

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<v Speaker 4>but as a God given talent. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>what God gave you, the light that God gave you, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because I do believe that most of us that are

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<v Speaker 4>in this game are chosen, you know, and we have

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<v Speaker 4>a gift that connects, span and touch millions of people

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<v Speaker 4>just what our voice is, just with our presence, and

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<v Speaker 4>so we got to remember that always like that comes first, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and protect that because the game is ruthless. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of sharks, and you kind of have to be

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<v Speaker 4>a shark and this ship to a certain degree. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>Can I curse on this show?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I tend to do that. Times, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a passion.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like I think that I've just come

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<v Speaker 4>to a place now where I've accepted certain things and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't let I don't let my past. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>carry it as heavy as I used to, both my

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<v Speaker 4>personal past and also my past that people know of

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<v Speaker 4>in the business, whether it be the ups and downs

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<v Speaker 4>of success and quote unquote failures. I don't carry it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I just appreciate where Matt and just the

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<v Speaker 4>the gift that God gave me of understanding the awareness

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<v Speaker 4>of the energy that I am outside of just music

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to what you're saying, and I protect that

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<v Speaker 4>as much as I possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we see and I got you know, Adupe

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<v Speaker 4>team and people I work with that are like brothers

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<v Speaker 4>to me, and we just you know, we we was

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<v Speaker 4>in it. We like it's like we gotta get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, It's got to happen, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know this is a time, it's time. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, since you said you know so you started so

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<v Speaker 1>young for real?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back to when when Mario was on the playground

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<v Speaker 1>man and and one of them kids was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Mario be singing like a mother, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know it's crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>This nigga can wow?

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<v Speaker 4>You said the playground. It started with my mom. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>it started with my mother four years old. My mother

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<v Speaker 4>was an outstanding listener and collector of great music. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>that's where it R and B hip hop. So my

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<v Speaker 4>grandmother was church. My great grandmother was church. So she

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<v Speaker 4>did listen to the Marvin Gays and then that King

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<v Speaker 4>Coles and all of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Great James Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But my mother is the one that noticed my gift

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<v Speaker 4>first and was like, at four years old, she got

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<v Speaker 4>me a mic that tuned into the radio, right, remember

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<v Speaker 4>those they had, the little cordless mic they turned into.

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<v Speaker 4>So one day she was in the best sleep and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the living room with Mitch Max sos On

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<v Speaker 4>and some you know, some dirty diapers, pamp.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever I had on at that time, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Dirty draws, dirty draws. Because so I'm in the living

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<v Speaker 4>room and I was singing to a song on the radio,

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<v Speaker 4>and not that I was singing all the words, but

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<v Speaker 4>she noticed that I could hold a melody. That she

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<v Speaker 4>knows that I was hitting them on key, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the story that she tells me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>can't quite remember that moment, but I do remember the mic.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the mic for whatever reason. And she said

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<v Speaker 4>from that point on, she's like she was going to

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<v Speaker 4>keep music around me in whichever way that she could

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<v Speaker 4>rather be playing music. She played the piano as well,

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think that was the beginning of creating

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<v Speaker 4>the passion and the awareness of who I am today

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<v Speaker 4>for myself because she put that in me early. She

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<v Speaker 4>put it around me, and I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 4>a gift. I just love to do it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know it was a gift to lie. In elementary school,

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<v Speaker 4>did a talent show, which I have another story for that,

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<v Speaker 4>seeing kids that hated me, like being a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Like as a kid, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't really know you have a gift. You just know it,

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<v Speaker 3>you love to do it. They could even help themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>They couldn't help themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And then my grandmother's in the audience. That was

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<v Speaker 4>my superhero. So like I don only sing in church

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<v Speaker 4>for her, so to be singing boys to Men song

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<v Speaker 4>in front of my grandmother was it was That was

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<v Speaker 4>the moment where I realized it. But Before that, it

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<v Speaker 4>was my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>She she really gave me the confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to barbershops. She used to cut my hair

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<v Speaker 4>up until the age of like seven or eight. And

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<v Speaker 4>the first barber shop I went to, she made me

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<v Speaker 4>sing for everybody in the barbershop. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>sing because I was used to singing at home. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to do it, sing sing, sing this

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<v Speaker 4>song right now.

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<v Speaker 2>From and so danceing right God, and so all of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys gave me ten dollars a piece.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, my first hundred come.

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<v Speaker 3>We need, we need the barbershop.

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<v Speaker 4>I made my first one hundred dollars in the barbershop.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked at my mom when we left. I said, Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>I can make money doing this. She's like, yeah, you can.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, just don't be ever afraid to sing. Never

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<v Speaker 4>be afraid to sing. And so, you know, I took

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<v Speaker 4>that with me, and it's the reason why I got signed,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. But yeah, the first talent

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<v Speaker 4>show I ever did was in elementary school. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 4>when we moved out of Emison Village and we moved

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<v Speaker 4>to Pikesville in Baltimore from West Baltimore to the County.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty houses down the street from me lived Monique Monique Medium, Yes, Monique, Monique, Monique,

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<v Speaker 4>my babies, her son, little Mark, me and two other

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<v Speaker 4>young men. I can't remember their names. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 4>who it was. She put us in a group. We

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<v Speaker 4>rehearsed in her backyard. It's my first time being broken.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not lying to man. Wow, true story, true story.

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<v Speaker 4>We rehearsed in her backyard. She put a group together.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to the Taylor, we got suits. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>our elementary school talent show. Elementary school was right across

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<v Speaker 4>the street, by the way, a block and a half

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<v Speaker 4>away from where we both lived, and we did this

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<v Speaker 4>talent show and it was it was incredible. It was

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<v Speaker 4>it was like we could have been a group, we

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<v Speaker 4>could have been young like you know. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 4>all of these things. You know, she was a big

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<v Speaker 4>part of that for me. And I never told her

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<v Speaker 4>that before. I never told you, Mo, Nique, thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for you know what I mean, making us

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<v Speaker 4>rehearse for hours, you know what I'm saying, and showing

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<v Speaker 4>us why it's going to take, what's going to take

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<v Speaker 4>to get to be great, you know, what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>at a young age. So the group, no, I don't,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe she does. I gotta. I got to hear what

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<v Speaker 3>the name of these groups.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so long ago I was I was an elementary.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the fact that, yeah, that they were putting on suits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we had on we have, but not the suits,

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<v Speaker 2>not thee with the with the with the Bruce Lee Collo, yeah, Catholic, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The four man group, four man the man. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, y'all didn't lose. It wasn't. It was impossible.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I don't even remember who was going against because

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<v Speaker 4>we killed. It's so crazy, like we had the aunties

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<v Speaker 4>and a grandma and the kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was going crazy. Now it's gonna be a nigg

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<v Speaker 3>in the comments like, yeah, he don't remember it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we was, we was on them. We almost. That was

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<v Speaker 3>the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, that was the That was the first talent show

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<v Speaker 4>I did in Baltimore. But it wasn't the least. The

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<v Speaker 4>next one that was like eleven years old, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was this guy by the name of Anthony Jeter, and

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<v Speaker 4>he would do these talent shows at copp And State

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<v Speaker 4>College in Baltimore. And everybody would come. So the one

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<v Speaker 4>that I did, DREI came and it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what you want that Drew Hill're the guy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>oh guy, what you need?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was then, And you know I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 4>I was I Actually I wasn't. I wasn't trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. My mother made me do it. Remember, we

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<v Speaker 4>went to the rehearsal for it, and we inside of

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<v Speaker 4>this hall. It's a long hallway to lead to Anthony

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<v Speaker 4>Jitter's uh you know, audition room. But you can hear everything.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm the youngest, like one of the youngest people in.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hearing people singing. I'm hearing like older guys, older women's.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, my this is why are we here? Why

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<v Speaker 4>are you doing this to me? She knew what she

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<v Speaker 4>was doing, right. I had no idea why I needed

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<v Speaker 4>to do this talent show. So the line is getting

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<v Speaker 4>small and small, were like fifty people in. The line

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<v Speaker 4>is getting the smallest. We were there for like two hours.

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<v Speaker 4>The line is getting smaller. As we finally get to

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<v Speaker 4>the door and I sing famthter. Not only did he

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<v Speaker 4>exchange it for with my mom, but he was just like, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>this kid is special. He's got it. He's in like

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred. So we get to the talent show and

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that day she she cut my hair. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even go to a barber shop today. She cut

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<v Speaker 4>my hair. She got me this.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you keep going, how did your mom do? Cutting

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<v Speaker 1>your hair?

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>I can show you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sow your picture before my.

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<v Speaker 1>Bars bars because I used to cut my kids hair.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's important. That's a that's a great.

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<v Speaker 3>I did alright during the pandemic. He didn't know. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know I was cutting something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, what about my hairline? Dad, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't know, He had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>My son was already a teenager. He like, yeah, yeah, Dad,

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<v Speaker 3>Next time, I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't we just go to the.

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<v Speaker 2>God.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even pandemic for me, right, it was pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>trying coming on. I got you, I see I cut hair,

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<v Speaker 1>I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like when you're I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>have kids, but I feel like when you're a parent,

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<v Speaker 4>like you, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Your kids make you feel like superhero can do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>From what I see like, up is mine, it's mine anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So she cut your hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she cut my hair. She took me to we

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<v Speaker 3>went to this.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to a jeweler. She brought me like my

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<v Speaker 4>first silver.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember I had a turtleneck with a gene

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<v Speaker 4>all denim jean outfit.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout and the jeans.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga watched don't watch stone wash got all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so you got to fit, you got you got

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<v Speaker 3>your ice on on.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like a start.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I think she knew what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>She knew what she was doing. And we get there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because I think she knew, she knew I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was nervous about the whole experience, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>she knew what I was going to face once I

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<v Speaker 4>got there.

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<v Speaker 3>We get there, we go.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, in the waiting room or whatever. I was like, ma,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go out in the audience. She's like

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<v Speaker 4>you sure. I'm like, yeah, I want to see what

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's doing. She's like you sure you want to do

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like yeah. So I got in the audience and

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<v Speaker 4>I just watch. I'm paying attention to what people aren't doing,

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<v Speaker 4>what they are doing at eleven Yeah, wow, And I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, I see how I am ready to go

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<v Speaker 4>back now.

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<v Speaker 3>So we go backstage. They introduced me. I go out

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<v Speaker 3>and what.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I sing? What did I sing? I sung? I

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<v Speaker 4>think I sung on Ben the niece by Boys to

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<v Speaker 4>Man killed it one thousand percent killed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Go back to get the you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know the like the when they announced the winner. So

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<v Speaker 4>his niece was in the show. So he his niece was.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, she was a young girl and it

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<v Speaker 4>was amazing. Other artists like older people doing it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>but his niece were on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I was mad. I was pissed. I was mad. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got on the back.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm screaming, like crying. I'm mad mad I was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know I was that competitive, So I'm crying.

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<v Speaker 4>I turned around. Somebody tapped my should like, yo, it's

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<v Speaker 4>all good. I was all good at Little Homie It's

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<v Speaker 4>all good. And it's jazz from Drew Hill. Wow, Cisco

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<v Speaker 4>walk up. Then all the other guys walk up. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just at this point, I'm like, yo, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that whole experience they had. Turning to my

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<v Speaker 4>mother meeting Troy Patterson, who was Third Street and my

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<v Speaker 4>first production signed to That's my manager at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He was there, and so he just kept in touch

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<v Speaker 4>with my mom for a few years. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Brotom was start getting crazy. My grandmother passed away. I

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<v Speaker 4>started getting into things IIN's supposed to get into. She

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<v Speaker 4>called Troy, like, yo, I need to get Mario out

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<v Speaker 4>of the city. You know what I'm saying. It was

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<v Speaker 4>just it was just this dark cloud that was starting

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<v Speaker 4>to surround me at this time. And my mom was

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<v Speaker 4>going through her own issues at the time, and she

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't always around, didn't grow up with my dad. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like bouncing the family and family house, sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>not going to school. Sometimes I don't even come home,

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<v Speaker 4>just being outside right, And you know, that transition changed

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<v Speaker 4>my life forever. I moved. I was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 4>up for a weekend. She called him, she said, go

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<v Speaker 4>to Jersey Jersey. She's like, I need my son to

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<v Speaker 4>get out of Baltimore. You know, Can he just come

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<v Speaker 4>up there for a week and just to get away

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<v Speaker 4>for a minute while I get myself together. He's like, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and what I go home? I go there and I

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<v Speaker 4>never came back to Bottomore until I shot my first video,

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<v Speaker 4>which was just a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>How old are you at this point when you go.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to turn fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it is, yeah, I'm about to turn fourteen years old.

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<v Speaker 4>But before this, I'm like moving from house to house.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>There were times where my mom was dating this guy

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<v Speaker 4>at the time and we didn't get along. There were

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<v Speaker 4>times where I just never came home, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, And I was just stay at a friend's

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<v Speaker 4>crib or like just just be outside. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind, I'm like, I just got to do

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<v Speaker 4>what I gotta do. You know, my grandmother was gone,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she died when I was twelve and nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety nine, December second, she passed away, and that was

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<v Speaker 4>like my safe haven. She was the person that if

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<v Speaker 4>something that made sense. Long long as I was with her,

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<v Speaker 4>it made sense, life made sense. And when she was gone,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just me and God.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>On her deathbed, she told me, she slipped.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, what you have is a gift, and your gift

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<v Speaker 2>will take you wherever you you know, wherever God wants

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<v Speaker 2>you to be.

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<v Speaker 4>She like, just never stop believing in yourself and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>always with you. That's what she told me on her deathband.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got a tap with my back that says

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<v Speaker 4>sole truth that's dedicated to her because it's something that

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<v Speaker 4>I live and walk every day. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>who I am today is because of my grandmother and

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<v Speaker 4>of course my mother, but from a spiritual place, is

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<v Speaker 4>my grandmother for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you moved to Jersey, Yeah, and do you

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<v Speaker 1>go straight into I don't know what will be considered

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<v Speaker 1>a boot campus now.

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<v Speaker 2>It just like this kid, it was life. It was

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<v Speaker 2>more so life. So he took you in on some Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was very much so guardians than act.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to just make him a singer. It was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta raise him fifty to fifty because.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a week or two, maybe a month after I

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<v Speaker 4>moved up, then he he brought up another kid actually

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<v Speaker 4>from Baltimore. He was trying to make a group out

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<v Speaker 4>of us, and then that didn't work out and I

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<v Speaker 4>ended up staying. You know, I think in his mind,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously he saw talent because he's been around it all

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<v Speaker 4>these years, all the years, but he also saw someone

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<v Speaker 4>that he's like, yo, I'm not gonna let this young

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<v Speaker 4>kid fail in life, you know what I'm saying, So

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<v Speaker 4>I do. I learned a lot about discipline through through him.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a very disciplined person, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 4>that whole chap, that whole era of my life was

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<v Speaker 4>about discipline and about being very uncomfortable for a great cause,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And it taught me just every God is amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>God is amazing because when your purpose is strong enough,

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<v Speaker 4>everything that you go through, even the things that don't

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<v Speaker 4>make sense, is preparing you for your future, is preparing

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<v Speaker 4>you to have the strength to push through in moments

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<v Speaker 4>where you know a regular person or someone else may

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<v Speaker 4>give up or you want to give up. Right, So

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<v Speaker 4>I think about that and like those uncomfortable moments where

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like, what the fuck is going on? My

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<v Speaker 4>grandmother's not here, I'm not with my family, I'm with

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<v Speaker 4>a new family. I never grew up with it that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't even know how to take discipline.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how to be like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to do Yeah, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to do this. How are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we went through somethings.

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<v Speaker 4>We went through some we went through some things, man,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was always like I think that I at

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<v Speaker 4>that time, I was like closed off. I was introverted.

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<v Speaker 4>I was very introverted because I just didn't know what

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<v Speaker 4>to trust, not about who what to trust right now,

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<v Speaker 4>that makes perfect. Started going to school in Jersey, shout

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<v Speaker 4>out to to to Bergen County and went to team

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<v Speaker 4>at for a minute, saw my first like like when

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<v Speaker 4>I went in Baltimore was all black.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all black. It was kids from all over

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<v Speaker 2>the city. Going to school.

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<v Speaker 4>Jersey was like a mixture of everything, was like a

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<v Speaker 4>melted pot.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was my first time seeing the you know

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<v Speaker 4>little Latin shorty is my first time seeing some some

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<v Speaker 4>some ship, right, and first time seeing people dress a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. I just I just wore big T shirts and.

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<v Speaker 3>Tims in the bag pants.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, no no, no loud colors, the motion

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<v Speaker 1>you could get some Nike. Everybody had any power dress code.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to look like you don't rob somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>So they used to call me country Grammar when I

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<v Speaker 4>when I first moved up there, because you know, my

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<v Speaker 4>accent not as heavy as used to be. But bottomore accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy is heavy, way different.

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<v Speaker 4>And so my first week moving to Jersey, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>getting a fight in school the first week that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was like I'm somebody else house. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>man don't deal with like fa you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, this is what you're gonna do the

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<v Speaker 4>first week, like they you know, And so it was

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<v Speaker 4>like I had to get used to just a different

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<v Speaker 4>lifestyle man. I want to say, like a year in

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<v Speaker 4>he companed me up from school one day when we

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<v Speaker 4>go to New York City, right, big Apple. Going to

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<v Speaker 4>New York. I got on some sweatpants, a Coolie sweater,

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<v Speaker 4>a Nike head wrap, and some earphones and a book

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<v Speaker 4>bag and some times we walked into the Marriott Hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Edge had an office. This is Jay Records before

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Records brought there and got the building just starting.

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<v Speaker 4>Clive had just started Jay. We walked into the office

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<v Speaker 4>my first time meeting Peter as I sing for Peter,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish by Carl Thomas, and then they walked me

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<v Speaker 4>into me Clive, me Peter, Troy Clive in the office,

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<v Speaker 4>big beautiful office, beautiful view pictures with bon Jovi and

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<v Speaker 4>Clive and Whitney and Clive Michael sat.

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<v Speaker 3>All the great just great. So I'm looking around, imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever reflesh, you can imagine. I had no idea at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. I mean, I've heard his name before, but

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea who Clive Davis was, in the

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<v Speaker 4>magnitude of the greatness he had been and how much

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<v Speaker 4>he had fought for us, you know, in some ways

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:52.479
<v Speaker 4>in the urban music. And I sit down and Clive's like,

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, I started talking to him. I was asking

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 4>him about the like, you know, pianos and all this

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 4>stuff in his house. And he asked me to sing

0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 4>for him the same thing I Wish by Karl Thomas

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 4>and I Make Love to You by boys, And he

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.439
<v Speaker 4>called in his whole staff. He's like hold on. He

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 4>called in his whole staff, mostly women at the time.

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 4>Set him on a couch in the room on the

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 4>on the left side of the room. His desk is here,

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 4>and then it's like the whole view of New York

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 4>some crazy at the top of the Maria. And I

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 4>sang again, and.

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 2>He asked me right there, how would you like to

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.159
<v Speaker 2>be you know, new artists on Jay Records.

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be a hundred keep it a hundred.

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Working with Warren and Harold was like working with like

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>big cousins.

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, working with the underdogs was like working with It

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 4>was more it felt a little more corporate.

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 3>It sound a little more like, yeah, you know what

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, we're still making great music, but it

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>felt more mechanical.

0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 4>But it was still great, you know what I mean.

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Shot out to those guys, you know what I'm saying,

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and what they've contributed to.

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 4>The passion, the pain and the pleasure of R and B.

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I say.

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, man, it was that was you know, this

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 4>was like artist development for me. You know, I may

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 4>work with all those great people because it's like you're

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 4>working with the great. I remember I remember singing Troop

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 4>records in middle school, you know what I'm saying. And

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 4>working with Little Steve on those records was I didn't

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 4>even know at the time, like I'm working with little Steve.

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 4>I didn't learn that toil late in two three years later.

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 4>It was just like my life. I'm like, this is

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 4>it's like a great gaspy This is like a fairy tale,

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 4>but it's so real.

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying it was crazy.

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I think from the outside looking in, when you first

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>came into the business, I feel like you put niggas

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>on notice because there was a gap with especially young artists. Yeah, singing,

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the way you came out singing, it tripped. It tripped

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>us out in the industry because by the time, because

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 2>you when you crack two thousand and two, two thousand

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and two first, by that point, I'm already established a rider.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm already in the game. We're doing what we're doing. Shit,

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>we've already done that. We already started the underdogs. So

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing everything that's coming through, you know what I mean,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>because that's the other side of the business, right. Most

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 2>artists just look at it like, oh yeah, I'm such

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>and such. But it's like, you know, I just sell

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 2>ten of y'all.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, right, like literally that system, right, it's like yeah.

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Ye, yeah, yeah, you good little nigga but.

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Records.

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 4>But but when.

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>We saw you, when we saw you, this is real shit, bro,

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>When we saw you as like oh shit, wow, they

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>really signed little niggas that.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Can really sing?

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, right, like that was that was you know,

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm a grownn at this point I'm already

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, I'm twenty twenty one, so I'm like, yo,

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 2>that little nigga. I was like, okay, I see the

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>other team that we just did them little privalleged songs

0:25:55.960 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>on He's sanging though, thank you, bro right. And I

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 2>think that was something that I and I'll say shout

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>out to Clive and shout out Jay Records for letting

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you still be a singer and then held and Warren

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>finding the space of you making young music.

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 4>That was classic though.

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.360
<v Speaker 3>That was right.

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 2>It was like because that original, that's the thing that

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>happens when you see the young artists.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 3>You're like, fuck, okay, what are they gonna sing?

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Where are they gonna sing too? I mean, but how

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 2>does it not be just popcorn right right, right, facts? Facts?

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>But it was.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 4>It was also though that I was also very authentic

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 4>and I had like I had real edge, like there

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>was and which it was like you didn't have to

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 4>make up the soul, you didn't have to make up

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 4>the pain, like sometimes it takes pain to really have

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 4>that ship. You know what I'm saying. I think that

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>that was what and that is what makes my voice

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 4>special when I'm on the right songs right because I

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 4>cut a lot of different records, but the right songs

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 4>with the right writers and the right producers.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just there's something that cuts through that's more authentic.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like that's important for for for labels

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.719
<v Speaker 4>today to understand, like where is the artist creating from?

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 4>Where are we creating from with this artist? How do

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 4>we When we went back and did justin Friend and

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I put that fifty two jersey on with ray Lewis,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 4>it was like a real thing for me. It was like, no, this,

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 4>I gotta wear this one where I'm from. You know

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. I gotta wear this, but it has

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 4>to be baggy and I have to have on baggy

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 4>pants and I have to have on air force where

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 4>we're from. You know what I'm saying. And it was

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 4>like I wasn't in And I think that over the

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 4>time that's that got lost, you know, with me being signed,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 4>because it was like okay, now it turned more manufacturing. Yeah,

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and you know what I'm saying.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>We still made hits, We still mad, but it was

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like I start feeling myself not feeling like Okay, this

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>is not me no more.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's not. Now it's like, Okay, how do

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 4>we dress them for this? How do we It's like, damn,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 4>like that got lost over the course of every album.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Next you started shifting because.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Coming in as a child star, there's a lot of

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>questions because a lot of people don't.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Cross that transition. What they don't cross from from being

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 3>a boy perfect right, Like that is it? That is?

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>That is that's the That's the greatest way to say it. Yeah,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people get stuck facts, so trying to

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>figure out, Okay, well who is this young man? Now

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>we signed a young boy, got a young boy? Yeah, okay, yeah,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you got your bagg of this, and but you don't

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>live in Baltimore no more either at this point.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>And now it's like, okay, you've been moving back though

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 3>lead you.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 4>On my second After my second album, I moved back,

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah for sure, but it wasn't neat. But it never

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>left me bro Like, I get what you're saying, you're right,

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 4>but I think what happened is that there was a

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 4>lot of changes in the building and.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>What it was like.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>After my first album that's like early too, so really

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 2>technically it still feels like it's late nineties right to

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a certain.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Degree music they still think nineties are right.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's crazy. It's like, nah, nigga, that's not

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 4>what's going on right now. But I think that it

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 4>was like what is R and B Now? During that time,

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 4>we were like, you know, we knew underdogs with R

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>and B. We knew that, but like it was like

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 4>as far as this new, this new world, there was

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 4>so much different. There were a lot of sub drummers

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 4>being created in the early two j thousands.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, you had Pharrell doing what he was doing. You

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>had tell me you know what I'm saying.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 4>You had Scott's storage and that's where Scott came in

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 4>at on the project. When we did let Me Love You.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 4>It was like, okay, now like now this this, this

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 4>is not this is a sub drummer.

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Was that his first R and B record?

0:29:55.840 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Nah, it wasn't on a male artist that magnitude at

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 4>that time. Okay, but he didn't me myself and I

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 4>he had, yeah, shout out to my nigga e s T.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Listen listen, yes, yes, yes.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>It was one of the first people to actually believe

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 4>in me as a writer. It was like nigga, no

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna write this record with you, Like you know, I.

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Did write where Harold Lily we we. I didn't write

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>wh him we told. I told stories to him because.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>He was talk Yeah, yeah, you want to know about

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>come on, We're.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Gonna get back to Harold.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>That's my nigga.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>That's my nigga. But yeah, that that that second album

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 4>Miami we recorded, Like you know, this was like Scott Storch, like.

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>You recording in Miami?

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 4>You feel me? Yeah? Yeah, there was so much inspiration was.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Manson was he had, Scott would have it.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>He had to party famous anyone, party anyone.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>It was like it was crazy, you know what I'm

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>saying it was it was crazy.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>And we were in Miami recording and you never knew

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 4>what the was gonna come out of the day.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Working with scottis you never knew what absolutely not, because

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>he could work under within so much.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>It was so much going on, but still so much

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 3>greatness happened. At the same time.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like five hundred pair of sunglasses. Bro Listen,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like no, no, no, no, because obviously that was his thing, right, sunglasses.

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Some random sunglass nigga comes in in the studio, session.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I've seen a lot of shit. I've

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>never seen a sunglass nigga come to the studio and

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>he was like yeah, and he laid out like twenty

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>of them at first, right, he just laid them all

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>eye and he is like he's selling joints five hundred

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 2>is he like, I'm here with Scott's stores.

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you know what, they don't make those those

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 4>are one thousand dollars.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like watches sunglasses cars. So the nigga, Scott says.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Scott just gets frustrated at this point. He's like, yeah,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>he tries on about five of them.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Give me all of them?

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 3>He said, what else do you got?

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like a box in the car.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the nigga had five hundred pair of shades. The niggas,

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Scott said, give me all all of them.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Man, got that Scott, That was Scott bro Scott.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 3>This nigga just spend fifty thousand glasses real quick.

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>We had a shoe convention much for your whole table.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>But I was I know, yeah, I know how it

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>was that.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was it was it was fun, you

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. I would say, like we had

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 4>we had a lot of fun. You eighteen at this point,

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, I'm like seventeen. By the turn eighteen,

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 4>that's fucking crazy.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And George Mansion imagine.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean we got hit records already, got hit records already,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 4>so everything was circulating, All the energy was circulated.

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean the girls were certainly and less certainly.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean I see all the girls that back then

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 4>that you might have thought was like the bat like

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>the joints, that's like still some of today's they still.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they was in there while we recorded. He's like,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, so it's like, you know who has like that?

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 2>And that was I would think that was the first

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>time me experiencing like rock and roll.

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 4>The industry, like something like this ship is like this,

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 4>And but then you had cash money in Miami. It

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 4>was a lot of energy in Miami that I was.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, because I was with Scott, I was seeing

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 4>all of it at that time. It was like a

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 4>lot going on.

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>They were all pulling up. It was crazy.

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 4>So in the midst of all of that, we're creating

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 4>great R and B Right were already working for like

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 4>a good couple of weeks. Scott flies and Neo. Neil

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 4>come in. He had him and like my person, and

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 4>he had a little bad joint with him that he brought.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 4>He was on the other side. There was another house

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.239
<v Speaker 4>and Nel was recording there like across the street, and

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I think Scott sent him a packer went through a

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 4>pack of beats, if I can remember correctly, Scott. Don't

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 4>he always like you're sucking up the story.

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 3>If I fun up the story, Scott, forgive me. I just.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, Yeah, So he's pack of beats and Neo

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 4>just does what he does. Man just going over there writing.

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying in his own world. He

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 4>brings back let Me Love You track. There's another writer

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 4>producer by the name of Cam that was a part

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 4>of it at this time. One day will be me

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 4>writing with Sts writing, and the other day would be

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 4>me just cutting records that you know, people were. Neil

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 4>brought in let Me Love You in a couple of heat.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 4>There's another record that I cut. We cut let Me

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Love You that night. I didn't think anything of it.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm just cutting records. I'm just like, Okay, it's another

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>great song. I'm just gonna do what I'm great at

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it's just like making my own. We cut the record,

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 4>we'll come back the next day, and the files for

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 4>whatever reason, had completely deleted to that record. So we're like, yo,

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 4>we gotta cut this record again again like before we

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 4>like play it for label play. We cut it again,

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 4>but this time I was already living with it, you know,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>took the record. I was in a different space with

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 4>the record, right, and I just remember cutting it and

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 4>just doing like passes because I'd already you know, got

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 4>used to We just it passes and incomptent or whatever,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 4>we go back play the record. I remember sitting at

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 4>clive desks and with Clive like, you couldn't just like

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 4>play a record. You had to bring the lyric sheet. Yes,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 4>you had to, like you know what I'm saying, You

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 4>had to bring the whole So we go in the

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 4>studio with him. It's me, Troy, I think Larry Jackson

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 4>was there, Peter Clive, and we're playing the record and

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 4>everybody's like, yeah, this record is a smash. At the time,

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't know

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 4>what it was. I knew it was special, I knew

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 4>it felt good. I knew it was original and it

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 4>felt new, but I was studying everything else was going on.

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, ill sure it just came out with Yeah,

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 4>confessions just came out. I'm like, nah, I need something sexier,

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 4>I need something more. But then we were just going

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 4>back and forth, but they knew what it was. I

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 4>can't even lie. I knew it was special, but I

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 4>didn't know it was that hit and put the record up.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Clive had a couple of changes he wanted to make,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 4>but other than that, it was just it was out

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 4>of here. It was out of here.

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna give you all my experience with that record.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>So obviously I have the second single on that album.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, we've been told we have the first single.

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know I didn't even get Yeah. We'll segue yeah, yeah,

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll get to the segue with how that how that

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 2>all transpired. But you know, the music business from a

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>writer producer side, you have those conversations with the n

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>R with the label and they're like yo, yo, So

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 2>this record is gonna be visited, and at this point,

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the underdogs, we're on fire crazy, So.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 3>If you're coming there, we're getting the first single.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how it goes right, but nobody even

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>knows you're From our standpoint, we don't even know you

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>have been in Miami doing records with Scott Storage. Wow,

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>because you know it's it's it's not like, oh, well,

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>who else, And it's just like, yo, you come in

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to get a Underdog record's gonna probably.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 3>And he's on SIS here after plund and he's.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>On Jay Records, which was Underdog Records for a minute

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.439
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in San Francisco. I never forget this ship.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And Neo isn't like I think, I want to say

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>he's new at this.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Point, he's not even and he's just talking about your record.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hadn't heard it yet. And he's saying, I

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>wrote Mario's record.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 3>So one of my No. No.

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>One of my niggas, big Vin, big Vin calls me.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 2>He's like, didn't you write Mario's first single? And I'm

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like yeah.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 3>He like, it's some new nigga. Man, he got like

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>the matrix name. Nigga says name Neo right, because he

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 3>don't really.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Know who he is, and he like and this nigga

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>saying he wrote the record. I'm like, maybe he wrote

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>another record. But from my understanding, he was like, yeah,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 2>you write this word call let me love you?

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like no. He' like that shit is smash crazy.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, we don't have.

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 4>The first single.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>This is how I find out. I'm at home, Nigga.

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I go up to the radio station. They play the records.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, and this is what I

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>said to I think I might either call Damon or

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I called Harvey and I said.

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>They might not never get to how could you?

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 2>They was a word I said, Nigga, his first single.

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's about to be playing for the next year. I

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know when. How could you?

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 3>It's going to go crazy.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 3>That's first time I heard it. One time.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this record, there's nothing wrong with it. Everything's

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 2>right vocally, lyrically, the movement of the song.

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh my god, bro, what the fuck? I

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 3>was pissed. I was like, that's my dog, and I'm

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 3>happy you got another one. He about to get cracking again.

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm pissed though, because I also knew what how could

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>You was, and I wrote it about some personal ship too,

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>so it's.

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh man, that's crazy. Honestly speaking, I didn't know

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 4>until later that you actually wrote that record.

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought back Dawkins wrote.

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>It what Eric worded with us, right like, so no, no, no, no,

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>no, no no, So this is this is okay the backstory

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>to that record. I mean Eric and myself both told

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the story together and separately, and we tell the same

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>exact story.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 3>We both had situations that we drew from.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Mine was literally a very immature high school situation and

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.760
<v Speaker 2>his was his grown right, And that's how we merged

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the record, and that's where the title came from. And

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 2>really the whole ghetto conversation Ship was just me being stupid, right, literally,

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 2>like just me being in the studio being stupid. And

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>at the time, the girl I was dating was really

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 2>on some like have you heard about this karma suture stuff?

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's trying to like, you know, you know, girls

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>always want to introduce you to something like have you

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>heard some reading this? And I'm like, some people just

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>they're just in a lock for eight hours.

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>This is what this man, This ship sounds stupid right

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 3>right right.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 2>So but I'm starting to read about it and I'm like, okay,

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 2>soon as freaking ship, Okay, let's get into it.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 4>They always asked me, what is the ghetto karma suture?

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I tell my own story about it. But

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 4>here you go from the word get the hood version.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 3>It is just the hood version.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like just the exactly this.

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Is the beauty of what we do.

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 4>Man, you can be like some people can be a

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 4>part of your journey of greatness and you might not

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>even know. You know what I'm saying. We are like

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 4>a part of each other's story growth and and ship.

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. This crazy is a full

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 4>circle moment.

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Before we made.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 3>History, yeah no, absolutely.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 2>When we his you finally got to the record, it

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>still became a hit record, let Me Love You.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 3>It was like let Me Love You was the rocket

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 3>ship that stayed in the air.

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it was just like still a history, history

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>making record.

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to everybody that was a part of that.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But how could you? How could you? Is the record

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that upset me? Yeah yeah, because because the.

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 3>The other part was where were you that you should

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where it was you were supposed to

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 3>be a part.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Of that was all there.

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>This is at this point, we're all so named all

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>under that we were at this point, you got to

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the underdogs when we were literally.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>When I came to it was it was a revolver.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 3>It was a machine at this point. Bro.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 4>When I walked in the studio that day, they had

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 4>some just chocolate beautiful girl working and you always had some.

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Vibes over there by.

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 3>You always had theirs.

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you, She's one of the reasons why

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 4>I saw so good on that record.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 3>She was older than me.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 4>She came in the studio while I was singing it

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 4>and literally sat in the room the whole time I

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 4>sang the fucking record. I know who she is, but

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not about to give her that fucking.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Shout out right now. Fired up.

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't know it like that, but I know, yeah,

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I know you're talking about it.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 4>But it was just the energy over there was was

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 4>very R and B. You know that definitely was the

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>difference from working with other people. Is when you walked

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 4>into Emmons building and there was another building too, but

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 4>that was the one I recorded, and you knew you

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 4>was getting some real R and B and everybody in

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 4>there was about that, and you knew you had to

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 4>deliver because everybody could sing everybody was vocalist and everything

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 4>with Harvey vocal producing it. It was just like.

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You delivered on that record, like you delivered like a

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>grown ass man on that record. Yes, And I felt

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like she was. I wasn't out of I was on

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the bench, you know what I'm saying at the time,

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't put no records out. I was just

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>right at that time. And I felt like I felt

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like you were tampering with, you know, with my nuance,

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and you was cooking and I was like, this motherfucker's crazy,

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 1>And where was I to not get on this at least?

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that right there substantiated you for me as a

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>grown man? How could you did that for me? I

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>thought you could. You should let me love you. It

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>was a great, great monstrous record, right, not taking anything

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>from that, but I felt like that edge that is

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Mario and lyricism.

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 4>And livery we were talking about it.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt like you was in there singing like this

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>for sure. I felt like you was. You had to

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>face on when you were singing that. I said, because a.

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Man, I appreciate you, because I remember even when you

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 2>needed that conversation came up.

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 3>It was like, yeah, we gotta play him? How could you? Right?

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>When when niggas, I was like, because I'm sure you

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 3>at least five records to play. But I'm like, is

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 3>he grown? This was my thought. I was like, is

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 3>he grown enough for that? Because that record was a

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 3>very like like I'm.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Saying, I wrote it from a mental set of time

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>where I was younger, but I wrote it as a

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>grown man too, and we were having grown man conversation

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>in that studio, myself, Damon Harvey in my life.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, little did y'all know my life?

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 4>That's the thing I don't know yet.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 3>All I know everything was fast forward.

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I know, brave my head, I know, you know what

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like, that's what that's four years prior. Though

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot can happen in four years walking you're still eighteen,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>only twenty two, twenty three.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Them niggas thirty, right, that's facts.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 2>They super grown, you know what I'm saying. Niggas got

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>kids already. I ain't had nothing yet, but like the

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>whole bill, niggas got kids.

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Niggas got mortgages, right, So it's like, oh, yeah, he cold,

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 3>but you think you're gonna pull it off vocally? Right?

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 2>And if you hear, and I'm sure you know it.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Eric Dawkins demo to.

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 3>That record, it's fucking crazy.

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But you came after that and saying that record, like

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you said, made it your own, which and literally was

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the topic of the conversation in that building for a

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>good week or two before.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Obviously before the song ever came out with Niggas was like, yo, man,

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 3>they broke and that's right, we just did this new

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 3>one with this kid. Whatever.

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Man, I appreciate the whole journey, you know what I'm saying.

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 4>All of that shit is important to me, all of

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 4>the knowledge, all every every single step of it, because

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 4>it's still a long way to go? Are you thirty seven?

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Wow?

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Young still twenty five years almost in the game?

0:45:55.160 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah thirty seven, yes, young man, Yes, sir, if I

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 5>could be thirty seven, it's.

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Crazy with the hot grease.

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh you clown.

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Got at you.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Take said that you're gonna make some of the best

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 4>music we ever made.

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh he said, yeah, he's saying.

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>He said, I got ideas for the young Chap. Absolutely, Mario,

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you've been doing this for quite sometime. My Brady Moms

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Mini moves. You've shared many stages over the decades. Some

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of this music that you've been listening to that has

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>helped shape them. The world that is Mario, the music

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.919
<v Speaker 1>that is Mario, the style.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 4>That is Mario.

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Do people want to get into your money? They want

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to know, sorry taking so long with Niche. They want

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to know for the Murrios. Top five?

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your top five? Come on, come on with f

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 3>your top five. I be leasing.

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Worrying me songs. We are not doing it from Aunton

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>bang got.

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Soul, Go and go to your top.

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Top five is crazy. Okay, my top five, yourself, my

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 3>top five I had.

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been thinking about this.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Mario, your top and B singers.

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just right now away from them to get to

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 3>number two, number two.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Top five, Army singers, No Order, No Good or live

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you know your world.

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Michael Jackson, Yeah, come on, come on, come to Stevie Wonder. Yeah,

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Marvin Gaye, although not one person, the whole group, but

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 4>boister men, it's got to be come on now. The

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 4>last person I left ambiguous for the day because I

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 4>don't it's it's such a a.

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Tough pick, but I'm gonna pick this person.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 4>Because damn, this is the last one's tough. I'll say

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston, and I picked the people that

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 4>made me feel something very just spiritually through the way

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 4>that they, you know, delivered songs and or their presence,

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 4>like the presence you were speaking about earlier that doesn't

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 4>have anything to do with music. Each one of those people,

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they just they're just special, like just

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 4>special beings that just happen to have this gift. So

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 4>those are definitely my top five for.

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure, solid top five R and B songs.

0:49:53.880 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm alaun B song, Okay Baby Be Mine Michael

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Jackson mm hmm on Bended Knee Voice the Man I

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 4>have nothing hm hmm with in Houston.

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:30.439
<v Speaker 1>The songs go down. I get it standards, all.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 4>The things Joe, Joe and I got one more. But

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>the reason I say all the things come on a

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 4>lot of people be like, yo, man, let me love you.

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 4>That's that's a crazy like take your take, your take

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 4>your girl's song, take another niggad girl song. Like no

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.279
<v Speaker 4>Joe started this ship. He said all the things your

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 4>man won't to do, but he did it in a

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 4>way that was like so like you can't be mad

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 4>at it because we already felt that way before about something.

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:57.719
<v Speaker 3>He said, why are all the good girls taking? Every time?

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 4>Why are the good girls taking?

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Why do I keep falling in love with someone Else's done?

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Talking about Dirty Man Ship Joe. The last song.

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 4>I would have to say my personal favorite one of

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 4>them Stevie Wonder Overjoyed Just yeah, Stevie.

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Wonder Castle Blood Yeah.

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 4>The imagination he put into his lyricsism, I feel like

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 4>it's a lost art. I think imagination is a lost

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 4>art in creativity, like in terms of you know, mainstream music.

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 4>We got to get back to that space where we

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 4>were seeing things that we never seen before. The missis

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 4>rhymes the hearing things, seeing like the whole you know

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, Like the whole thing.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's eveing close to making no ship like that.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Nah, it's crazy musically, it's crazy, nigga, But.

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 2>We have we also have to be adventurous enough and

0:51:55.880 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>bold enough to do it and you're into and to

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.320
<v Speaker 2>let the world decide if they're going to love it

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 2>or not, and for us not to feel like, well, damn,

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not giving them what they know.

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving them what I feel like they need.

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, because we get caught up in that

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and that's the other side of having real power and

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 2>real ownership in yourself because you can make those decisions

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 2>now because you can't.

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, Listen, fifteen twenty years ago, you could have said,

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 3>oh well they said I had to right. No, for sure,

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 3>we all know.

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think new citizens, yeah, for sure,

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 2>can make them record size he feels to make.

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 4>But I think I think it's a way to do

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 4>it and to because part of our job is to

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 4>get people excited about being a part of what we're doing,

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 4>absolutely creating, and I think there's a way to get

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 4>people excited again about making art that you know, every

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 4>label wants a artist is going to be performing at

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 4>award shows or on artist that's going to be considered

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 4>in these because it helps to push the narrative for

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 4>it helps the streams, it helps everything.

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Is like.

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Finding a space where you can be authentic is very hard, right,

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 4>But I feel like if you do it right and

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 4>you have the right creatives involved with you, then I

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 4>feel like you can have a good chance at doing

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 4>it on a major stage, you know what I'm saying.

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like you also have to have the

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 4>talent as well as the catalog to do it. And

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm in that space. So that's why

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I said the responsibility of being great is you have

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 4>to consider all of these things when you're about to release,

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, going to a project cycle

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 4>and that's like it's one of my main my main

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:45.800
<v Speaker 4>things right now is make sure I stay true to that,

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 4>like don't get lost in the oh. Just of course

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 4>this record it sounds like a hit, No, like like

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 4>create what is going to be the next standard? It's

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:55.959
<v Speaker 4>a responsibility.

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>We won't do your Vultron. We're gonna make with R

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and B artists. We want to know who you're going

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to get the vocal from, the performance style, from the styling,

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>from the passion of the artist.

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 4>The heart of the artists come from James Brown.

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're gonna start to what you're gonna get? You

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>want to start. Passion comes from James Brown, who's one

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of the baddest motherfuckers ever.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 4>The passion comes from James even.

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 1>The way he talks it sound who feel.

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 3>It's all right? It's all orders, it's all orders. It's

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 3>very sergeant.

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Who are you getting the vocal from?

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 4>There's so many ways to go with this because it's

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 4>just like you know, it's it's so many amazing ones.

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get the vocal from. Can it be a

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:52.479
<v Speaker 4>mixture of two people.

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It has to be submissive, ultra ultimate vocal.

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a mixture between Whitney and.

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.280
<v Speaker 4>All right, take it away, sorry Whitney and lovey. Mixture

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 4>between Stevie and Michael. Vocal wise, yeah, because with Michael

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 4>you get the the Tomming, the texture I'm sorry, the Tomming,

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 4>the conviction, the.

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Where he can go with his voice. With Stevie.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 4>You get the colors, you get everything in between. I

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 4>would mix those two.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I think Stevie is the classic portion of your vocal,

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 1>whereas Michael was that early, right, but then Michael graduated

0:55:54.960 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>into a stylist that Yeah, that set him that at

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 1>any point, if you do anything remotely close to whim,

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>it's him. Oh you're trying to be.

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Like my signature. I studied Michael.

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't lie, I study, but I study. I study.

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think my.

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Voice is a mixture between Michael, Stephen, and Marvin. If

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 4>I was to put my voice together with three people,

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 4>that Joe and.

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 3>There to.

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Joe all of that conversation. Get it.

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Michael Linham too. Hell yeah, Charlie.

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna say, Joe, Charlie, Wow, that makes sense.

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And I gotta find you a false settle. Yeah, who

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>had a fault? Who had a false?

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 4>Like Maxwell?

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Maxwell had a crazy force.

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I love Max.

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you.

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Max has a nice floating false you have. You have

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ship in your false like I come from the false world.

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>That's got a nasty false.

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah clean, He does have a clean fuss.

0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I put all three of those together and that's like, now.

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 4>He has a clean fuss.

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You're in that space you because you have an honesty.

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like you said, you have a conviction and an honesty,

0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's sincerity in your voice, which is why, like

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 1>those heartfelt records always like you can do anything. Let's

0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>get that out the way. But nigga, when you when

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you when you look into a woman's eyes and say

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 1>some real ship to her, nigga, she fucking believes you

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>God for sure. Performance style? Whose performance style?

0:57:54.720 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Performance style a mixture between Bobby Brown and Michael mm hmm.

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 4>You want to hump the stage and moon walk.

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 3>But Michael was clean like Michael Michas Brown CB Yo,

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 3>god c B.

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I even got a picture people style of.

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 3>C B, but c B mixed with more uh like

0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 3>like like yeah c B c B.

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 4>I would say more like more clean mic but not

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 4>but see.

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 3>You do that.

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Micha was able to do another thing and dance that

0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he was able to do infocals created signature that at

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 1>this point for un avoidable. Yeah you want to dance,

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hit something, Mike, It's avoidable.

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Crazy, bro, Yeah, it's crazy.

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Because it was geometry. Michael was geometry. Hell yeah, you

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. It's all gam tree I was.

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy because I was watching this thing.

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 3>The other day. What was it?

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Snake in the grass where.

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It comes from?

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yo, this ship is all.

0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 1>People don't even.

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, all of it, even down

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 3>to the outfit.

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 4>And and and the metaphors in his conversation, Yeah yeah

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 4>about it. It's like music. Michael was very spiritual in

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 4>his music. Music was very mystical.

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<v Speaker 3>Press was also going to be in my top five artists.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, my and my vulture on

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<v Speaker 4>because he played every instrument he performed he was unpredictable

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. So he's definitely in my vulture for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I seen that clip when he told uh, he ran

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<v Speaker 2>into the homie at the club that he had fell

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<v Speaker 2>out with andreamon. He said, they said, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>How did you work it out when you see me

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<v Speaker 2>say something?

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<v Speaker 4>Come get this hit, don't get it? Come get this hit?

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<v Speaker 3>He said.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he said, wait, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna go tomorrow at twelve. Yeah, And I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is fucking Prince Bro, Like, who runs up on you?

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all got y'all got full b y'all not with each

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<v Speaker 3>other at all, but you know you the magic man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>come get this hit. Come holler at me crazy. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't like who does that? Now you gotta start running on.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody, but come get this hit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a couple of niggas. Might be still mad at

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<v Speaker 3>you about drink champs, but you might have to. He

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<v Speaker 3>was honest stuff. Hey, listen, this is a new world.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody can't handle that honesty.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody can handle. Real ship means no harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Styling of the artists.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmmm, the drip. I think the drip who had crazy Drip?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, uh, because then you're just thinking about genre.

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<v Speaker 4>You think about error, right, because there's so many different errors.

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<v Speaker 3>Got this, who's the flies? Flies?

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<v Speaker 1>I got close the artists, but naked.

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<v Speaker 3>The backstage Right now we're figuring it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a horse stand by.

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<v Speaker 3>There ain't no wardrobe, got putist. You can't just put

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<v Speaker 3>my artist in anything. You know, they have to be styled.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think if someone who takes their wardrobe seriously,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say that the mindset of Stalin, of Beyonce,

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<v Speaker 4>the mindset yeah yeah. The reason why I say that

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<v Speaker 4>is because whether it be a male Voltron or a

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<v Speaker 4>female Votron, her her mindset of how she put our

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<v Speaker 4>shows together and how serious she takes it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unmatched, so that you're not running to the mall

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<v Speaker 1>find those clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is it's custom, custom made, superstart.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're doing right now, danswers everybody every day everything

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<v Speaker 1>this is. This is not just a sonic experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see somebody run to it, Oh you look

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<v Speaker 3>like right, and everybody dressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody I had all shipped with silver on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's Vigo fashion, man, you gotta love it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like everything needs to be an experience, right, We get

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<v Speaker 4>back to that though. We get back to that, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way. So yeah, this this, this is this album,

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<v Speaker 4>what we're creating right now, you know, this new era

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<v Speaker 4>of Mario. I think that my fans deserve it. Music

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<v Speaker 4>deserves it. I deserve it. The people that I'm working

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<v Speaker 4>with deserve it. I mean excited about the conversations we've

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<v Speaker 4>been having and just really creating it. We already have

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<v Speaker 4>the name of the tour. I already have everything. It's

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<v Speaker 4>already happening for me. When I go to sleep at night,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm already on stage singing the new songs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that feeling, you know that feeling I drive

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<v Speaker 1>in silence doing everything. That's feeling is that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. That's that's exactly what you're talking about, that feeling. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've come. Oh we've come.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, saying no saying no name, saying what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, we've come to this day important, specially

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<v Speaker 2>going on the show. Hey man, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is serious, ship man serious. So right now we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the segment of the show it's called I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>saying no names.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying that I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't saying no name, no no no names, saying we.

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<v Speaker 2>Said some names, we shout some people out. But now

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to tell your story funny or fucked up?

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<v Speaker 2>Are funny and fucked up?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I got a few of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing, you are, Mario, so you can tell us

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<v Speaker 2>all of them if you would like. Okay, let's see

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<v Speaker 2>so real quick right now, right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The only rule to the game. I ain't saying that

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<v Speaker 3>you can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Say no.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been a name dropping I know that about me.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll know I ain't the nigga to be.

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<v Speaker 4>This ain't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even like games like this. You like it?

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<v Speaker 4>You like you like if the games is moving silad noah,

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, I had it to a it headed to

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<v Speaker 4>a private event, private jet.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh the jet too, oh, private event on a

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<v Speaker 2>private private event on a private jet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's me one of my representations. There's a lady, beautiful lady,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit older than me at the time that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like twenty two. Maybe a couple other people see.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I should tell this story, because ladies,

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<v Speaker 4>listen when I tell you this story. This ain't no

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<v Speaker 4>kissing and telling type shit. This is just like you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, This ain't I don't do this,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's funny. It's the first thing that came to

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<v Speaker 4>my mind while I think about all this shit to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Were on the jet, anybody going to sleep? Just me

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<v Speaker 4>and a young lady up were sipping. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a bed in the back, everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping on the outside. Man, I passed up on an

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<v Speaker 4>experience because I was I wasn't like I was shy

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<v Speaker 4>ish at the moment, and it was just it was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people around, but it was sleep and

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<v Speaker 4>this young ladies like you were older lady. But the

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<v Speaker 4>young lady she's like, yo, let's go to the back.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was also a fan, and I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is not this is really about to happen right now

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<v Speaker 4>like this, and so we get you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>She get up, she goes to the back. She basically

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<v Speaker 4>invited me to the back of the plane with jet joint.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, fucking, I'm about to go. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 4>do this. Take a little sip, get to the back,

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<v Speaker 4>close the door. We start to ride for a minute,

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<v Speaker 4>just then fucking crazy turbulentce stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I swear God when I tell you, when.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell you, the turbulence got everybody woke up, create everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're up. And if I tell you who it is,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be like, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>My, but this is like, this is like when a

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<v Speaker 4>thing popping right now and the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro. And it never the moment never really presented, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, it never really presented itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, damn God, what did I do to

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<v Speaker 3>what I did? I did something what I do to

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<v Speaker 3>deserve that? It was crazy, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was about to be crazy. But yeah, you want

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<v Speaker 4>to run that back for to run that back, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was like already you know it's crazy. God, you

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<v Speaker 4>could have run that back.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave me one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was one of them. It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one of them. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been an upper upper echelon. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>was crazy. See, I mean yeah, I got a few stories. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>exclusive man, this might owe me publishing on a record

1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:08.160
<v Speaker 4>they owed you. They owe me because of an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>that was fought for for them. And then they renegged

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<v Speaker 4>on the whole ship. I had an agreement, agreement, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do this for you because it seemed like the

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<v Speaker 4>right thing to do, but I'm gonna need this. But

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<v Speaker 4>to this day, that's always argued that, Nah, that ain't

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<v Speaker 4>the way the story went, you know, And sometimes in

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<v Speaker 4>the game you think like, damn, this is my big bro,

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<v Speaker 4>this is this yeah, and it happened, and it's like damn,

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<v Speaker 4>you know it was. It was a hard lesson to

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<v Speaker 4>learn that I can't really undo because this is already done.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't you know what I'm saying, thought about it, argued

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<v Speaker 4>about it, you know what I'm saying. But it's like

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<v Speaker 4>crazy because it's like it's one of the things where

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<v Speaker 4>I probably I don't know if I'm gonna work with

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<v Speaker 4>the person again because of that, and we could probably

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<v Speaker 4>make an amazing music. But it's like that's crazy, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. I don't know if y'all been

1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:09.000
<v Speaker 4>in that situation before, but it's fucked up. It's a

1:09:09.040 --> 1:09:12.160
<v Speaker 4>fucked up feeling when it's like damn, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like taking advantage of the opportunity, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not even worth it, right, we all getting money.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, there's so much of it, it's like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no reason to ruin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think for me personally, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>took the stance of I'll just go ahead second. We

1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:39.280
<v Speaker 2>figured that out, you know what I'm saying, Like players

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<v Speaker 2>don't keep scoring. I look at life, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I believe that our gifts mm hmm are

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<v Speaker 2>more valuable than anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the opportunity to the work again, or

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<v Speaker 2>just the opportunity to just feel good in that same

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<v Speaker 2>room with somebody like person man, even if even if

1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I had to be the one to give them the extra,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still like, you know what, We're good, brot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good. So I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, get your take split sheets to the sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure you cannot. You can sue based on hearsay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a very expensive process to win. Yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>the split sits, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's like it's like a weird thing in the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends though.

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<v Speaker 4>I think motherfuckers who like really love this ship and

1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:38.519
<v Speaker 4>who really like respect the art and really respect what's

1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:41.880
<v Speaker 4>going on, Like it's No, there's no real problem with

1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:44.599
<v Speaker 4>saying like yo, even if not especially it's text message

1:10:44.600 --> 1:10:47.360
<v Speaker 4>group text like yo, you're gonna and if you trust

1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:48.400
<v Speaker 4>them then you do that then.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, but it's just like what happens is is

1:10:51.600 --> 1:10:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that we are just humans, and as humans we are unpredictable.

1:10:54.760 --> 1:10:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Our situation and circumstances can become unpredictable and lead all

1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of us individuals into some different places to where that

1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:04.760
<v Speaker 1>conversation that was happening then I felt good. I felt

1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:05.799
<v Speaker 1>great about it then.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the record and the opportunity itself turns into something

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<v Speaker 4>bigger and everybody like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>See what I normally get. You know, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>normally really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the other part too, And this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I would say to all writers. Be honest with

1:11:22.640 --> 1:11:26.720
<v Speaker 2>yourself about your participation. And I think a lot of

1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:30.000
<v Speaker 2>times people aren't honest that sometimes you were just in

1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you just put the play together.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like I'm gonna need such and such percentage on

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<v Speaker 4>this publishing from just putting a play together last minute

1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:43.920
<v Speaker 4>or it won't happen type ship. There's so many ways

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<v Speaker 4>that people play with this ship. You know what I'm

1:11:45.520 --> 1:11:48.360
<v Speaker 4>saying list, and to me, I'm cool with it as

1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:49.559
<v Speaker 4>long as it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as it's articulated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but as long as it makes sense, Bro, he's

1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:55.040
<v Speaker 4>not gonna bully me off some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a conversation, that's yeah for sure. Let's have

1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a real conversation and really write this ship down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, whatever is agreed upon, it's a great We

1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:07.240
<v Speaker 1>don't even have to rehashit it no more. Look at

1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:10.120
<v Speaker 1>this paper man that I that I email to my

1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to all of our lawyers. Yeah, it shouldn't be uncomfortable

1:12:18.479 --> 1:12:22.360
<v Speaker 1>handling that type of business. Shouldn't be uncomfortable. It should

1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:24.080
<v Speaker 1>just be honest. Like us we get in the room,

1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we just nigga who always in here with us, travel up.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also want to make sure that you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're official too. Nigga, you run a business.

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<v Speaker 4>Man for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It ain't I didn't have them sometimes it's I don't

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<v Speaker 3>do sessions like that no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like, if you're in the room, you're a contributor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you the homie, you just popping through something.

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<v Speaker 4>But like, I'm so energetically sensitive. My energy is very

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<v Speaker 4>sensitive to things. That's why I don't always, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I always so use like Nigga, come to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Yo, we're gonna do it at the right timing.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm happy that this is happening right

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<v Speaker 4>now because I do think it's the time is person figure.

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<v Speaker 4>I love this new space that and the energy is

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<v Speaker 4>amazing here. We definitely gonna come here and make some shit. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, make some hiss, but like you know, everything

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<v Speaker 4>is like we had a space now, it's not we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have time to waste energy. It's purposeful. It's got

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<v Speaker 4>to be that, you know. I take it that serious,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I love where R and

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<v Speaker 4>B is at right now. I love where we are,

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<v Speaker 4>and I love the platforms we got and I think

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<v Speaker 4>people are wanting that again. People are. You said something

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<v Speaker 4>in the drink Tramps in an interview. You were like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the love that they're afraid of our love, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And that can come in so many different forms, but

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<v Speaker 4>typically love is honest, right. It's if it's ugly, it's ugly.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Let the art be what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Every art piece is not the same, but let artists

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<v Speaker 4>be the most perfected version of what it is that

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<v Speaker 4>they are, and let's give that to the world. If

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<v Speaker 4>it wins, it wins, if it doesn't. What you did,

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<v Speaker 4>you just gave an artist another reason to keep going great.

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<v Speaker 4>When Quincy and Michael was doing do you think they

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<v Speaker 4>knew exactly what Thriller was gonna be? I just think

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<v Speaker 4>they did exactly what the fuck They felt like it

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<v Speaker 4>was great to them at the highest level, and the

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<v Speaker 4>world was like, oh, ship embraced. We got to get

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<v Speaker 4>back to that. That's what New Citizen is. Baby, You're

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<v Speaker 4>about to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Look producers, you're gonna get your credits and your publisher.

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<v Speaker 1>God Mario, we are, we are, we are shoot man.

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<v Speaker 1>We're fans of your brother.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm a fan of Thank you, bro, speak one

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<v Speaker 4>and we have appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing but love and admiration for you. We have nothing but.

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<v Speaker 4>Support, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, If if if if they

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<v Speaker 1>asked us about you to call this nigga live, appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>just how we run it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna keep pushing the little man and getting back

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<v Speaker 4>in the gym, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And we thank you for being here.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. You know you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know your time is precious money baby, and people

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<v Speaker 2>people are looking for you all here when coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool? I like that y'all enjoyed it. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>That y'all you know we gave you everything that you're

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I know y'all working on some big things for the

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<v Speaker 4>Army Money Podcast. He told me some stuff behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, bro, you can come and sit in time. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if you do an episode where we just kicked the

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<v Speaker 2>ship talk music.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure for s to do that, be a resident. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Tank Valentine. You ain't gonna let me

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<v Speaker 3>do my ship. I can come on. Hold on, hey man, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You go with your ship, went to starting ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Gave me a past this, nigga, Just reo my past

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<v Speaker 3>that easy. This is the ship. Be niggas be still.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them start over.

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<v Speaker 4>This Maria.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you want to singing ship, I'm selling.

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<v Speaker 1>Time. My name is Tan all the time. See your

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<v Speaker 1>nigga ship, I can't, Mario.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we get it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen to the Army Money Podcast. The authority of

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<v Speaker 1>all things R and B man. And it has been

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<v Speaker 1>our loved one, this has been our brother brother, This

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this is an R and B mother

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sagon man.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate Yeah Ye money. I.

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