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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take Valanchi. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank

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Speaker 1: Valentine and this is the Ry Money Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Tell her what come you go here? Okay, you started off.

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Speaker 1: All things R and B. Voco, I'm sitting this ship.

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Speaker 3: Are you being vocal?

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Speaker 1: Are you big? There's a difference between an R and

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Speaker 1: B artists When a R and B singer.

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Speaker 4: Off camera, I want to say, there's a difference between

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Speaker 4: a hit and a classic.

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Speaker 3: Come on, it's starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not gonna say too much else here,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Mario, that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, before we start, I noticed your thing.

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Speaker 4: Before we start, I just want to say congratulations man.

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Speaker 4: To R and B you understand.

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Speaker 3: And and to y'all, I don't have no drink drinkers.

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Speaker 4: I got it just in case I wanted to ship

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Speaker 4: on something. But you know what we've done coming from

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Speaker 4: the DMV, you got d m V, you got the

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Speaker 4: Bay Area in here, like what we've done, what we've

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Speaker 4: sustained you know for this, for for R and B

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Speaker 4: and the game is it's not an easy feat for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And I want to say

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Speaker 4: congratulations you, thank you for open doors that you've opened.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, my Bay Area brother, and

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Speaker 4: let's let's do this man, R R and B money,

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Speaker 4: RMB money.

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Speaker 3: Today for R and B money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: He walked in looking like R and B money money.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man.

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Speaker 1: I know we talked. We talked in we talked in Atlanta. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and I said something to you that

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Speaker 1: you know, even you were able like you were able

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Speaker 1: to really expound on and articulating and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning and all that. But yeah, I said, bro,

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Speaker 1: you're having You're having a hell of a moment right now.

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Speaker 1: And it actually has nothing to do with music. It

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Speaker 1: has everything just to do with him with you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, man, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like your your essence and

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Speaker 1: your movements and just nigga, you just standing there smiling

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, putting your trip on there. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a thing to be talked about and appreciate it. And

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Speaker 1: that goes to or goes back to all of those

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Speaker 1: things that we were taught early. Yes, aren't really necessarily

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Speaker 1: talk anymore. Like the presence of an artist should be

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Speaker 1: something that means walk in the room. Yeah, they have

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Speaker 1: to know you and that motherfucker before you say a word.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's I think that it's something that needs

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Speaker 4: to be protected and taught. And some of you you

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Speaker 4: can't teach, right, But just the awareness of it, of

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Speaker 4: what you're saying is so important because when you start

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Speaker 4: so young in the game, sometimes situations the process will

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Speaker 4: make you forget who you are, not as a talent,

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Speaker 4: but as a God given talent. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: what God gave you, the light that God gave you, right,

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Speaker 4: because I do believe that most of us that are

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Speaker 4: in this game are chosen, you know, and we have

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Speaker 4: a gift that connects, span and touch millions of people

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Speaker 4: just what our voice is, just with our presence, and

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Speaker 4: so we got to remember that always like that comes first, right,

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Speaker 4: and protect that because the game is ruthless. It's a

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Speaker 4: lot of sharks, and you kind of have to be

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Speaker 4: a shark and this ship to a certain degree. Right,

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Speaker 4: Can I curse on this show?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 3: I'm not I tend to do that. Times, but it's

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Speaker 3: a passion.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I think that I've just come

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Speaker 4: to a place now where I've accepted certain things and

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Speaker 4: I don't let I don't let my past. I don't

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Speaker 4: carry it as heavy as I used to, both my

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Speaker 4: personal past and also my past that people know of

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Speaker 4: of success and quote unquote failures. I don't carry it.

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Speaker 4: I just I just appreciate where Matt and just the

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Speaker 4: the gift that God gave me of understanding the awareness

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Speaker 4: of the energy that I am outside of just music

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Speaker 4: goes back to what you're saying, and I protect that

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Speaker 4: as much as I possibly can.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I think.

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Speaker 4: I think we see and I got you know, Adupe

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Speaker 4: team and people I work with that are like brothers

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Speaker 4: to me, and we just you know, we we was

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Speaker 4: in it. We like it's like we gotta get it.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's got to happen, and

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Speaker 4: I know this is a time, it's time. You know.

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Speaker 1: Wow, since you said you know so you started so

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Speaker 1: young for real?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, let's.

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Speaker 1: Go back to when when Mario was on the playground

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Speaker 1: man and and one of them kids was like, man,

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Speaker 1: this is Mario be singing like a mother, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Do you know it's crazy?

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Speaker 1: This nigga can wow?

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Speaker 4: You said the playground. It started with my mom. Man,

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Speaker 4: it started with my mother four years old. My mother

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Speaker 4: was an outstanding listener and collector of great music. Right,

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Speaker 4: that's where it R and B hip hop. So my

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Speaker 4: grandmother was church. My great grandmother was church. So she

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Speaker 4: did listen to the Marvin Gays and then that King

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Speaker 3: Great James Brown.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: But my mother is the one that noticed my gift

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Speaker 4: first and was like, at four years old, she got

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Speaker 4: me a mic that tuned into the radio, right, remember

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Speaker 4: those they had, the little cordless mic they turned into.

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Speaker 4: So one day she was in the best sleep and

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Speaker 4: I'm in the living room with Mitch Max sos On

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Speaker 4: and some you know, some dirty diapers, pamp.

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Speaker 3: Whatever I had on at that time, and.

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Speaker 4: Dirty draws, dirty draws. Because so I'm in the living

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Speaker 4: she noticed that I could hold a melody. That she

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Speaker 4: knows that I was hitting them on key, and I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is the story that she tells me, and I

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Speaker 4: can't quite remember that moment, but I do remember the mic.

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Speaker 4: I remember the mic for whatever reason. And she said

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Speaker 4: rather be playing music. She played the piano as well,

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Speaker 4: And so I think that was the beginning of creating

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Speaker 4: the passion and the awareness of who I am today

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Speaker 4: for myself because she put that in me early. She

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Speaker 4: put it around me, and I didn't know it was

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Speaker 4: know it was a gift to lie. In elementary school,

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Speaker 4: did a talent show, which I have another story for that,

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Speaker 4: seeing kids that hated me, like being a fan.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like as a kid, you

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Speaker 3: don't really know you have a gift. You just know it,

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Speaker 3: you love to do it. They could even help themselves.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't help themselves.

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Speaker 4: Right, And then my grandmother's in the audience. That was

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Speaker 4: my superhero. So like I don only sing in church

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Speaker 4: for her, so to be singing boys to Men song

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Speaker 4: the moment where I realized it. But Before that, it

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: She she really gave me the confidence.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: We went to barbershops. She used to cut my hair

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Speaker 4: up until the age of like seven or eight. And

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Speaker 4: the first barber shop I went to, she made me

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do it, sing sing, sing this

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Speaker 4: song right now.

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Speaker 2: From and so danceing right God, and so all of

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Speaker 2: the guys gave me ten dollars a piece.

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Speaker 4: I mean, my first hundred come.

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Speaker 3: We need, we need the barbershop.

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Speaker 4: I made my first one hundred dollars in the barbershop.

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Speaker 4: And I looked at my mom when we left. I said, Mom,

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Speaker 4: I can make money doing this. She's like, yeah, you can.

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Speaker 4: She's like, just don't be ever afraid to sing. Never

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Speaker 4: be afraid to sing. And so, you know, I took

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But yeah, the first talent

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Speaker 4: show I ever did was in elementary school. Right. So,

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Speaker 4: when we moved out of Emison Village and we moved

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Speaker 4: to Pikesville in Baltimore from West Baltimore to the County.

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Speaker 4: Twenty houses down the street from me lived Monique Monique Medium, Yes, Monique, Monique, Monique,

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Speaker 4: my babies, her son, little Mark, me and two other

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Speaker 4: young men. I can't remember their names. I can't remember

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Speaker 4: who it was. She put us in a group. We

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Speaker 4: rehearsed in her backyard. It's my first time being broken.

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Speaker 4: I'm not lying to man. Wow, true story, true story.

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Speaker 4: We rehearsed in her backyard. She put a group together.

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Speaker 4: We went to the Taylor, we got suits. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 4: our elementary school talent show. Elementary school was right across

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Speaker 4: away from where we both lived, and we did this

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Speaker 4: talent show and it was it was incredible. It was

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Speaker 4: it was like we could have been a group, we

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Speaker 4: could have been young like you know. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: all of these things. You know, she was a big

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Speaker 4: part of that for me. And I never told her

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Speaker 4: that before. I never told you, Mo, Nique, thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you for you know what I mean, making us

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Speaker 4: rehearse for hours, you know what I'm saying, and showing

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Speaker 4: us why it's going to take, what's going to take

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Speaker 4: to get to be great, you know, what I'm saying

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Speaker 4: at a young age. So the group, no, I don't,

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Speaker 3: Maybe she does. I gotta. I got to hear what

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Speaker 3: the name of these groups.

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Speaker 4: It was so long ago I was I was an elementary.

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Speaker 1: Like the fact that, yeah, that they were putting on suits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we had on we have, but not the suits,

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Speaker 2: not thee with the with the with the Bruce Lee Collo, yeah, Catholic, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The four man group, four man the man. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know, y'all didn't lose. It wasn't. It was impossible.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't even remember who was going against because

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Speaker 4: we killed. It's so crazy, like we had the aunties

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Speaker 3: Everybody was going crazy. Now it's gonna be a nigg

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Speaker 3: in the comments like, yeah, he don't remember it. You know,

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Speaker 3: we was, we was on them. We almost. That was

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Speaker 3: the first.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, that was the That was the first talent show

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Speaker 4: I did in Baltimore. But it wasn't the least. The

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Speaker 4: next one that was like eleven years old, and it

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Speaker 4: was this guy by the name of Anthony Jeter, and

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Speaker 4: he would do these talent shows at copp And State

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Speaker 4: College in Baltimore. And everybody would come. So the one

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Speaker 4: that I did, DREI came and it was like.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you want that Drew Hill're the guy, right,

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Speaker 2: oh guy, what you need?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It was it was then, And you know I was nervous.

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Speaker 1: So she cut your hair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think she knew what she was doing.

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Speaker 3: We get there, we go.

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Speaker 3: So we go backstage. They introduced me. I go out

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Speaker 4: Did I sing? What did I sing? I sung? I

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Speaker 4: Man killed it one thousand percent killed it.

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Speaker 3: Go back to get the you.

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Speaker 4: all good. I was all good at Little Homie It's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that whole experience they had. Turning to my

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Speaker 4: for a minute while I get myself together. He's like, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: How old are you at this point when you go.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm thirteen.

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Speaker 4: No, it is, yeah, I'm about to turn fourteen years old.

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Speaker 4: But before this, I'm like moving from house to house.

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Speaker 4: There were times where my mom was dating this guy

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Speaker 4: it made sense, life made sense. And when she was gone,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: On her deathbed, she told me, she slipped.

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Speaker 2: Look, what you have is a gift, and your gift

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Speaker 2: will take you wherever you you know, wherever God wants

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Speaker 4: She like, just never stop believing in yourself and I'm

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Speaker 4: And I got a tap with my back that says

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you moved to Jersey, Yeah, and do you

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Speaker 2: It just like this kid, it was life. It was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very much so guardians than act.

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Speaker 3: And it taught me just every God is amazing.

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Speaker 4: God is amazing because when your purpose is strong enough,

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Speaker 4: I think about that and like those uncomfortable moments where

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how to be like, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't even know how to do Yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: You know, we went through somethings.

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Speaker 4: We went through some we went through some things, man,

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Speaker 4: that makes perfect. Started going to school in Jersey, shout

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Speaker 2: It was all black. It was kids from all over

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Speaker 4: Jersey was like a mixture of everything, was like a

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So it was my first time seeing the you know

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Speaker 4: So they used to call me country Grammar when I

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Speaker 4: And so my first week moving to Jersey, you know,

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Speaker 4: but it was like I'm somebody else house. Yeah, this

441
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: man don't deal with like fa you know what I'm saying.

442
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 4: It was like, this is what you're gonna do the

443
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: first week, like they you know, And so it was

444
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 4: like I had to get used to just a different

445
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 4: lifestyle man. I want to say, like a year in

446
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 4: he companed me up from school one day when we

447
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: go to New York City, right, big Apple. Going to

448
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 4: New York. I got on some sweatpants, a Coolie sweater,

449
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 4: a Nike head wrap, and some earphones and a book

450
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 4: bag and some times we walked into the Marriott Hotel.

451
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: Peter Edge had an office. This is Jay Records before

452
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 4: Jay Records brought there and got the building just starting.

453
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 4: Clive had just started Jay. We walked into the office

454
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 4: my first time meeting Peter as I sing for Peter,

455
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: I wish by Carl Thomas, and then they walked me

456
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: into me Clive, me Peter, Troy Clive in the office,

457
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: big beautiful office, beautiful view pictures with bon Jovi and

458
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: Clive and Whitney and Clive Michael sat.

459
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: All the great just great. So I'm looking around, imagine.

460
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 4: Ever reflesh, you can imagine. I had no idea at

461
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 4: the time. I mean, I've heard his name before, but

462
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 4: I had no idea who Clive Davis was, in the

463
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: magnitude of the greatness he had been and how much

464
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 4: he had fought for us, you know, in some ways

465
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 4: in the urban music. And I sit down and Clive's like,

466
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: you know, I started talking to him. I was asking

467
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: him about the like, you know, pianos and all this

468
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: stuff in his house. And he asked me to sing

469
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: for him the same thing I Wish by Karl Thomas

470
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 4: and I Make Love to You by boys, And he

471
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 4: called in his whole staff. He's like hold on. He

472
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 4: called in his whole staff, mostly women at the time.

473
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 4: Set him on a couch in the room on the

474
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: on the left side of the room. His desk is here,

475
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: and then it's like the whole view of New York

476
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: some crazy at the top of the Maria. And I

477
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: sang again, and.

478
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: He asked me right there, how would you like to

479
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: be you know, new artists on Jay Records.

480
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a hundred keep it a hundred.

481
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: Working with Warren and Harold was like working with like

482
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: big cousins.

483
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: Yes, working with the underdogs was like working with It

485
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: was more it felt a little more corporate.

486
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: It sound a little more like, yeah, you know what

487
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

488
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: I was like, we're still making great music, but it

489
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: felt more mechanical.

490
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 4: But it was still great, you know what I mean.

491
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: Shot out to those guys, you know what I'm saying,

492
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: and what they've contributed to.

493
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: The passion, the pain and the pleasure of R and B.

494
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I say.

495
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, it was that was you know, this

496
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 4: was like artist development for me. You know, I may

497
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: work with all those great people because it's like you're

498
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: working with the great. I remember I remember singing Troop

499
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 4: records in middle school, you know what I'm saying. And

500
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: working with Little Steve on those records was I didn't

501
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: even know at the time, like I'm working with little Steve.

502
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: I didn't learn that toil late in two three years later.

503
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 4: It was just like my life. I'm like, this is

504
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: it's like a great gaspy This is like a fairy tale,

505
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: but it's so real.

506
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying it was crazy.

507
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: I think from the outside looking in, when you first

508
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: came into the business, I feel like you put niggas

509
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 2: on notice because there was a gap with especially young artists. Yeah, singing,

510
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: the way you came out singing, it tripped. It tripped

511
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: us out in the industry because by the time, because

512
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: you when you crack two thousand and two, two thousand

513
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: and two first, by that point, I'm already established a rider.

514
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm already in the game. We're doing what we're doing. Shit,

515
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: we've already done that. We already started the underdogs. So

516
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: we're seeing everything that's coming through, you know what I mean,

517
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: because that's the other side of the business, right. Most

518
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: artists just look at it like, oh yeah, I'm such

519
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: and such. But it's like, you know, I just sell

520
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: ten of y'all.

521
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: Right, right, like literally that system, right, it's like yeah.

522
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, yeah, you good little nigga but.

523
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: Records.

524
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: But but when.

525
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: We saw you, when we saw you, this is real shit, bro,

526
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: When we saw you as like oh shit, wow, they

527
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: really signed little niggas that.

528
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: Can really sing?

529
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, right, like that was that was you know,

530
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a grownn at this point I'm already

531
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I'm twenty twenty one, so I'm like, yo,

532
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: that little nigga. I was like, okay, I see the

533
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: other team that we just did them little privalleged songs

534
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: on He's sanging though, thank you, bro right. And I

535
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: think that was something that I and I'll say shout

536
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: out to Clive and shout out Jay Records for letting

537
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: you still be a singer and then held and Warren

538
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: finding the space of you making young music.

539
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: That was classic though.

540
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: That was right.

541
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: It was like because that original, that's the thing that

542
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: happens when you see the young artists.

543
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: You're like, fuck, okay, what are they gonna sing?

544
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: Right?

545
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: Where are they gonna sing too? I mean, but how

546
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: does it not be just popcorn right right, right, facts? Facts?

547
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: But it was.

548
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: It was also though that I was also very authentic

549
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: and I had like I had real edge, like there

550
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: was and which it was like you didn't have to

551
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: make up the soul, you didn't have to make up

552
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: the pain, like sometimes it takes pain to really have

553
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 4: that ship. You know what I'm saying. I think that

554
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: that was what and that is what makes my voice

555
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: special when I'm on the right songs right because I

556
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 4: cut a lot of different records, but the right songs

557
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: with the right writers and the right producers.

558
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: Like it's just there's something that cuts through that's more authentic.

559
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: And I feel like that's important for for for labels

560
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 4: today to understand, like where is the artist creating from?

561
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 4: Where are we creating from with this artist? How do

562
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: we When we went back and did justin Friend and

563
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: I put that fifty two jersey on with ray Lewis,

564
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: it was like a real thing for me. It was like, no, this,

565
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: I gotta wear this one where I'm from. You know

566
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I gotta wear this, but it has

567
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: to be baggy and I have to have on baggy

568
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: pants and I have to have on air force where

569
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: we're from. You know what I'm saying. And it was

570
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 4: like I wasn't in And I think that over the

571
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 4: time that's that got lost, you know, with me being signed,

572
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: because it was like okay, now it turned more manufacturing. Yeah,

573
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying.

574
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: We still made hits, We still mad, but it was

575
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: like I start feeling myself not feeling like Okay, this

576
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: is not me no more.

577
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: It's like it's not. Now it's like, Okay, how do

578
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: we dress them for this? How do we It's like, damn,

579
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: like that got lost over the course of every album.

580
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: Next you started shifting because.

581
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Coming in as a child star, there's a lot of

582
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: questions because a lot of people don't.

583
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: Cross that transition. What they don't cross from from being

584
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: a boy perfect right, Like that is it? That is?

585
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: That is that's the That's the greatest way to say it. Yeah,

586
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people get stuck facts, so trying to

587
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, well who is this young man? Now

588
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: we signed a young boy, got a young boy? Yeah, okay, yeah,

589
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: you got your bagg of this, and but you don't

590
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: live in Baltimore no more either at this point.

591
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: And now it's like, okay, you've been moving back though

592
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: lead you.

593
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: On my second After my second album, I moved back,

594
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure, but it wasn't neat. But it never

595
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: left me bro Like, I get what you're saying, you're right,

596
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: but I think what happened is that there was a

597
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: lot of changes in the building and.

598
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: What it was like.

599
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: After my first album that's like early too, so really

600
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: technically it still feels like it's late nineties right to

601
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: a certain.

602
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Degree music they still think nineties are right.

603
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 4: It's like it's crazy. It's like, nah, nigga, that's not

604
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: what's going on right now. But I think that it

605
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: was like what is R and B Now? During that time,

606
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: we were like, you know, we knew underdogs with R

607
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: and B. We knew that, but like it was like

608
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: as far as this new, this new world, there was

609
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: so much different. There were a lot of sub drummers

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: being created in the early two j thousands.

611
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Right, you had Pharrell doing what he was doing. You

612
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: had tell me you know what I'm saying.

613
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: You had Scott's storage and that's where Scott came in

614
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: at on the project. When we did let Me Love You.

615
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: It was like, okay, now like now this this, this

616
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: is not this is a sub drummer.

617
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Was that his first R and B record?

618
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: Nah, it wasn't on a male artist that magnitude at

619
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: that time. Okay, but he didn't me myself and I

620
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: he had, yeah, shout out to my nigga e s T.

621
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: Listen listen, yes, yes, yes.

622
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: It was one of the first people to actually believe

623
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: in me as a writer. It was like nigga, no

624
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna write this record with you, Like you know, I.

625
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: Did write where Harold Lily we we. I didn't write

626
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: wh him we told. I told stories to him because.

627
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: He was talk Yeah, yeah, you want to know about

628
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: come on, We're.

629
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Gonna get back to Harold.

630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: That's my nigga.

631
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: That's my nigga. But yeah, that that that second album

632
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: Miami we recorded, Like you know, this was like Scott Storch, like.

633
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: You recording in Miami?

634
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: You feel me? Yeah? Yeah, there was so much inspiration was.

635
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: Manson was he had, Scott would have it.

636
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: He had to party famous anyone, party anyone.

637
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: It was like it was crazy, you know what I'm

638
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: saying it was it was crazy.

639
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: And we were in Miami recording and you never knew

640
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: what the was gonna come out of the day.

641
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Working with scottis you never knew what absolutely not, because

642
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: he could work under within so much.

643
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: It was so much going on, but still so much

644
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: greatness happened. At the same time.

645
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm just like five hundred pair of sunglasses. Bro Listen,

646
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm like no, no, no, no, because obviously that was his thing, right, sunglasses.

647
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: Some random sunglass nigga comes in in the studio, session.

648
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I've seen a lot of shit. I've

649
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: never seen a sunglass nigga come to the studio and

650
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: he was like yeah, and he laid out like twenty

651
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: of them at first, right, he just laid them all

652
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: eye and he is like he's selling joints five hundred

653
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: is he like, I'm here with Scott's stores.

654
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know what, they don't make those those

655
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: are one thousand dollars.

656
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: It's like watches sunglasses cars. So the nigga, Scott says.

657
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: Scott just gets frustrated at this point. He's like, yeah,

658
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: he tries on about five of them.

659
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: Give me all of them?

660
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: He said, what else do you got?

661
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: He's like a box in the car.

662
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the nigga had five hundred pair of shades. The niggas,

663
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Scott said, give me all all of them.

664
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: Man, got that Scott, That was Scott bro Scott.

665
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: This nigga just spend fifty thousand glasses real quick.

666
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: We had a shoe convention much for your whole table.

667
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: But I was I know, yeah, I know how it

668
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: was that.

669
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was it was fun, you

670
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I would say, like we had

671
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 4: we had a lot of fun. You eighteen at this point,

672
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm like seventeen. By the turn eighteen,

673
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: that's fucking crazy.

674
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: And George Mansion imagine.

675
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: I mean we got hit records already, got hit records already,

676
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: so everything was circulating, All the energy was circulated.

677
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean the girls were certainly and less certainly.

678
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: I mean I see all the girls that back then

679
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: that you might have thought was like the bat like

680
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: the joints, that's like still some of today's they still.

681
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was in there while we recorded. He's like,

682
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: you know, so it's like, you know who has like that?

683
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: And that was I would think that was the first

684
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: time me experiencing like rock and roll.

685
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: The industry, like something like this ship is like this,

686
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: And but then you had cash money in Miami. It

687
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: was a lot of energy in Miami that I was.

688
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, because I was with Scott, I was seeing

689
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: all of it at that time. It was like a

690
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: lot going on.

691
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: They were all pulling up. It was crazy.

692
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: So in the midst of all of that, we're creating

693
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: great R and B Right were already working for like

694
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: a good couple of weeks. Scott flies and Neo. Neil

695
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: come in. He had him and like my person, and

696
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: he had a little bad joint with him that he brought.

697
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: He was on the other side. There was another house

698
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 4: and Nel was recording there like across the street, and

699
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: I think Scott sent him a packer went through a

700
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: pack of beats, if I can remember correctly, Scott. Don't

701
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: he always like you're sucking up the story.

702
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: If I fun up the story, Scott, forgive me. I just.

703
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, So he's pack of beats and Neo

704
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: just does what he does. Man just going over there writing.

705
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying in his own world. He

706
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: brings back let Me Love You track. There's another writer

707
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: producer by the name of Cam that was a part

708
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: of it at this time. One day will be me

709
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: writing with Sts writing, and the other day would be

710
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: me just cutting records that you know, people were. Neil

711
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: brought in let Me Love You in a couple of heat.

712
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: There's another record that I cut. We cut let Me

713
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: Love You that night. I didn't think anything of it.

714
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 4: I'm just cutting records. I'm just like, Okay, it's another

715
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: great song. I'm just gonna do what I'm great at

716
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: it's just like making my own. We cut the record,

717
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: we'll come back the next day, and the files for

718
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: whatever reason, had completely deleted to that record. So we're like, yo,

719
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: we gotta cut this record again again like before we

720
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: like play it for label play. We cut it again,

721
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: but this time I was already living with it, you know,

722
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: took the record. I was in a different space with

723
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: the record, right, and I just remember cutting it and

724
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: just doing like passes because I'd already you know, got

725
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 4: used to We just it passes and incomptent or whatever,

726
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: we go back play the record. I remember sitting at

727
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: clive desks and with Clive like, you couldn't just like

728
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: play a record. You had to bring the lyric sheet. Yes,

729
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: you had to, like you know what I'm saying, You

730
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 4: had to bring the whole So we go in the

731
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: studio with him. It's me, Troy, I think Larry Jackson

732
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: was there, Peter Clive, and we're playing the record and

733
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: everybody's like, yeah, this record is a smash. At the time,

734
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't know

735
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: what it was. I knew it was special, I knew

736
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: it felt good. I knew it was original and it

737
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: felt new, but I was studying everything else was going on.

738
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, ill sure it just came out with Yeah,

739
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: confessions just came out. I'm like, nah, I need something sexier,

740
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 4: I need something more. But then we were just going

741
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: back and forth, but they knew what it was. I

742
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: can't even lie. I knew it was special, but I

743
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: didn't know it was that hit and put the record up.

744
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: Clive had a couple of changes he wanted to make,

745
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: but other than that, it was just it was out

746
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: of here. It was out of here.

747
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

748
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give you all my experience with that record.

749
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: So obviously I have the second single on that album.

750
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: Right, we've been told we have the first single.

751
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: Wow, you know I didn't even get Yeah. We'll segue yeah, yeah,

752
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: we'll get to the segue with how that how that

753
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: all transpired. But you know, the music business from a

754
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: writer producer side, you have those conversations with the n

755
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: R with the label and they're like yo, yo, So

756
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: this record is gonna be visited, and at this point,

757
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: the underdogs, we're on fire crazy, So.

758
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: If you're coming there, we're getting the first single.

759
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of how it goes right, but nobody even

760
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: knows you're From our standpoint, we don't even know you

761
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: have been in Miami doing records with Scott Storage. Wow,

762
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: because you know it's it's it's not like, oh, well,

763
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: who else, And it's just like, yo, you come in

764
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: to get a Underdog record's gonna probably.

765
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: And he's on SIS here after plund and he's.

766
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: On Jay Records, which was Underdog Records for a minute

767
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: for sure.

768
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: So I'm in San Francisco. I never forget this ship.

769
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: And Neo isn't like I think, I want to say

770
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: he's new at this.

771
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: Point, he's not even and he's just talking about your record.

772
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't heard it yet. And he's saying, I

773
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: wrote Mario's record.

774
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: So one of my No. No.

775
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: One of my niggas, big Vin, big Vin calls me.

776
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: He's like, didn't you write Mario's first single? And I'm

777
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: like yeah.

778
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: He like, it's some new nigga. Man, he got like

779
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: the matrix name. Nigga says name Neo right, because he

780
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: don't really.

781
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Know who he is, and he like and this nigga

782
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: saying he wrote the record. I'm like, maybe he wrote

783
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: another record. But from my understanding, he was like, yeah,

784
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: you write this word call let me love you?

785
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like no. He' like that shit is smash crazy.

786
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, we don't have.

787
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: The first single.

788
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

789
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: This is how I find out. I'm at home, Nigga.

790
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: I go up to the radio station. They play the records.

791
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, and this is what I

792
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: said to I think I might either call Damon or

793
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: I called Harvey and I said.

794
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: They might not never get to how could you?

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Wow?

796
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: They was a word I said, Nigga, his first single.

797
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: It's about to be playing for the next year. I

798
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: don't know when. How could you?

799
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: It's going to go crazy.

800
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

801
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: That's first time I heard it. One time.

802
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, this record, there's nothing wrong with it. Everything's

803
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: right vocally, lyrically, the movement of the song.

804
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, bro, what the fuck? I

805
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: was pissed. I was like, that's my dog, and I'm

806
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: happy you got another one. He about to get cracking again.

807
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm pissed though, because I also knew what how could

808
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: You was, and I wrote it about some personal ship too,

809
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: so it's.

810
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: Like, oh man, that's crazy. Honestly speaking, I didn't know

811
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: until later that you actually wrote that record.

812
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 3: I thought back Dawkins wrote.

813
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: It what Eric worded with us, right like, so no, no, no, no,

814
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: no, no no, So this is this is okay the backstory

815
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: to that record. I mean Eric and myself both told

816
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: the story together and separately, and we tell the same

817
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: exact story.

818
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: We both had situations that we drew from.

819
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: Mine was literally a very immature high school situation and

820
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: his was his grown right, And that's how we merged

821
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: the record, and that's where the title came from. And

822
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: really the whole ghetto conversation Ship was just me being stupid, right, literally,

823
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: like just me being in the studio being stupid. And

824
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: at the time, the girl I was dating was really

825
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: on some like have you heard about this karma suture stuff?

826
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: And it's trying to like, you know, you know, girls

827
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: always want to introduce you to something like have you

828
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: heard some reading this? And I'm like, some people just

829
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: they're just in a lock for eight hours.

830
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: This is what this man, This ship sounds stupid right

831
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 3: right right.

832
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: So but I'm starting to read about it and I'm like, okay,

833
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: soon as freaking ship, Okay, let's get into it.

834
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: They always asked me, what is the ghetto karma suture?

835
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I tell my own story about it. But

836
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 4: here you go from the word get the hood version.

837
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: It is just the hood version.

838
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: It's like just the exactly this.

839
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: Is the beauty of what we do.

840
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Man, you can be like some people can be a

841
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: part of your journey of greatness and you might not

842
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: even know. You know what I'm saying. We are like

843
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: a part of each other's story growth and and ship.

844
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. This crazy is a full

845
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: circle moment.

846
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: Man.

847
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: Before we made.

848
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: History, yeah no, absolutely.

849
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: When we his you finally got to the record, it

850
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: still became a hit record, let Me Love You.

851
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: It was like let Me Love You was the rocket

852
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: ship that stayed in the air.

853
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was just like still a history, history

854
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: making record.

855
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody that was a part of that.

856
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: But how could you? How could you? Is the record

857
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: that upset me? Yeah yeah, because because the.

858
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: The other part was where were you that you should

859
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: I don't know where it was you were supposed to

860
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: be a part.

861
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Of that was all there.

862
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: This is at this point, we're all so named all

863
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: under that we were at this point, you got to

864
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: the underdogs when we were literally.

865
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: When I came to it was it was a revolver.

866
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: It was a machine at this point. Bro.

867
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 4: When I walked in the studio that day, they had

868
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: some just chocolate beautiful girl working and you always had some.

869
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: Vibes over there by.

870
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: You always had theirs.

871
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, She's one of the reasons why

872
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: I saw so good on that record.

873
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: She was older than me.

874
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: She came in the studio while I was singing it

875
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: and literally sat in the room the whole time I

876
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: sang the fucking record. I know who she is, but

877
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm not about to give her that fucking.

878
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Shout out right now. Fired up.

879
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: I know, I don't know it like that, but I know, yeah,

880
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about it.

881
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: But it was just the energy over there was was

882
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: very R and B. You know that definitely was the

883
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: difference from working with other people. Is when you walked

884
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: into Emmons building and there was another building too, but

885
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: that was the one I recorded, and you knew you

886
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 4: was getting some real R and B and everybody in

887
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: there was about that, and you knew you had to

888
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: deliver because everybody could sing everybody was vocalist and everything

889
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: with Harvey vocal producing it. It was just like.

890
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: You delivered on that record, like you delivered like a

891
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: grown ass man on that record. Yes, And I felt

892
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: like she was. I wasn't out of I was on

893
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: the bench, you know what I'm saying at the time,

894
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: and I couldn't put no records out. I was just

895
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: right at that time. And I felt like I felt

896
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: like you were tampering with, you know, with my nuance,

897
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: and you was cooking and I was like, this motherfucker's crazy,

898
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: And where was I to not get on this at least?

899
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Like that right there substantiated you for me as a

900
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: grown man? How could you did that for me? I

901
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: thought you could. You should let me love you. It

902
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: was a great, great monstrous record, right, not taking anything

903
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: from that, but I felt like that edge that is

904
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Mario and lyricism.

905
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: And livery we were talking about it.

906
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: I felt like you was in there singing like this

907
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: for sure. I felt like you was. You had to

908
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: face on when you were singing that. I said, because a.

909
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate you, because I remember even when you

910
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: needed that conversation came up.

911
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, we gotta play him? How could you? Right?

912
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: When when niggas, I was like, because I'm sure you

913
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: at least five records to play. But I'm like, is

914
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: he grown? This was my thought. I was like, is

915
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: he grown enough for that? Because that record was a

916
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: very like like I'm.

917
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: Saying, I wrote it from a mental set of time

918
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: where I was younger, but I wrote it as a

919
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: grown man too, and we were having grown man conversation

920
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: in that studio, myself, Damon Harvey in my life.

921
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: Right, little did y'all know my life?

922
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: That's the thing I don't know yet.

923
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: All I know everything was fast forward.

924
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: I know, brave my head, I know, you know what

925
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, that's what that's four years prior. Though

926
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: a lot can happen in four years walking you're still eighteen,

927
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: only twenty two, twenty three.

928
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: Them niggas thirty, right, that's facts.

929
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: They super grown, you know what I'm saying. Niggas got

930
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: kids already. I ain't had nothing yet, but like the

931
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: whole bill, niggas got kids.

932
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: Niggas got mortgages, right, So it's like, oh, yeah, he cold,

933
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 3: but you think you're gonna pull it off vocally? Right?

934
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: And if you hear, and I'm sure you know it.

935
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: Eric Dawkins demo to.

936
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: That record, it's fucking crazy.

937
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

938
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: But you came after that and saying that record, like

939
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: you said, made it your own, which and literally was

940
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: the topic of the conversation in that building for a

941
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: good week or two before.

942
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: Obviously before the song ever came out with Niggas was like, yo, man,

943
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: they broke and that's right, we just did this new

944
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: one with this kid. Whatever.

945
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate the whole journey, you know what I'm saying.

946
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: All of that shit is important to me, all of

947
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: the knowledge, all every every single step of it, because

948
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: it's still a long way to go? Are you thirty seven?

949
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: Wow?

950
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Young still twenty five years almost in the game?

951
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: Yeah thirty seven, yes, young man, Yes, sir, if I

952
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: could be thirty seven, it's.

953
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: Crazy with the hot grease.

954
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: Oh you clown.

955
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: Got at you.

956
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: Take said that you're gonna make some of the best

957
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: music we ever made.

958
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he said, yeah, he's saying.

959
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: He said, I got ideas for the young Chap. Absolutely, Mario,

960
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: you've been doing this for quite sometime. My Brady Moms

961
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: Mini moves. You've shared many stages over the decades. Some

962
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: of this music that you've been listening to that has

963
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: helped shape them. The world that is Mario, the music

964
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: that is Mario, the style.

965
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: That is Mario.

966
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: Do people want to get into your money? They want

967
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: to know, sorry taking so long with Niche. They want

968
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: to know for the Murrios. Top five?

969
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, your top five? Come on, come on with f

970
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: your top five. I be leasing.

971
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Worrying me songs. We are not doing it from Aunton

972
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: bang got.

973
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Soul, Go and go to your top.

974
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

975
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: Top five is crazy. Okay, my top five, yourself, my

976
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: top five I had.

977
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: You know, I've been thinking about this.

978
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Mario, your top and B singers.

979
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm just right now away from them to get to

980
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 3: number two, number two.

981
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: Top five, Army singers, No Order, No Good or live

982
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: you know your world.

983
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, Yeah, come on, come on, come to Stevie Wonder. Yeah,

984
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye, although not one person, the whole group, but

985
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: boister men, it's got to be come on now. The

986
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: last person I left ambiguous for the day because I

987
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: don't it's it's such a a.

988
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: Tough pick, but I'm gonna pick this person.

989
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: Because damn, this is the last one's tough. I'll say

990
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston, and I picked the people that

991
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: made me feel something very just spiritually through the way

992
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: that they, you know, delivered songs and or their presence,

993
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: like the presence you were speaking about earlier that doesn't

994
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: have anything to do with music. Each one of those people,

995
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: I feel like they just they're just special, like just

996
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: special beings that just happen to have this gift. So

997
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: those are definitely my top five for.

998
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: Sure, solid top five R and B songs.

999
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: Mm hmm alaun B song, Okay Baby Be Mine Michael

1000
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: Jackson mm hmm on Bended Knee Voice the Man I

1001
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: have nothing hm hmm with in Houston.

1002
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: The songs go down. I get it standards, all.

1003
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: The things Joe, Joe and I got one more. But

1004
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: the reason I say all the things come on a

1005
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: lot of people be like, yo, man, let me love you.

1006
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 4: That's that's a crazy like take your take, your take

1007
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: your girl's song, take another niggad girl song. Like no

1008
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: Joe started this ship. He said all the things your

1009
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: man won't to do, but he did it in a

1010
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: way that was like so like you can't be mad

1011
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 4: at it because we already felt that way before about something.

1012
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: He said, why are all the good girls taking? Every time?

1013
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: Why are the good girls taking?

1014
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: Why do I keep falling in love with someone Else's done?

1015
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: Talking about Dirty Man Ship Joe. The last song.

1016
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: I would have to say my personal favorite one of

1017
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: them Stevie Wonder Overjoyed Just yeah, Stevie.

1018
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: Wonder Castle Blood Yeah.

1019
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: The imagination he put into his lyricsism, I feel like

1020
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: it's a lost art. I think imagination is a lost

1021
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: art in creativity, like in terms of you know, mainstream music.

1022
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: We got to get back to that space where we

1023
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: were seeing things that we never seen before. The missis

1024
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: rhymes the hearing things, seeing like the whole you know

1025
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like the whole thing.

1026
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Nobody's eveing close to making no ship like that.

1027
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: Nah, it's crazy musically, it's crazy, nigga, But.

1028
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: We have we also have to be adventurous enough and

1029
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: bold enough to do it and you're into and to

1030
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: let the world decide if they're going to love it

1031
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: or not, and for us not to feel like, well, damn,

1032
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm not giving them what they know.

1033
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: I'm giving them what I feel like they need.

1034
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, because we get caught up in that

1035
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: and that's the other side of having real power and

1036
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: real ownership in yourself because you can make those decisions

1037
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: now because you can't.

1038
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: You know, Listen, fifteen twenty years ago, you could have said,

1039
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: oh well they said I had to right. No, for sure,

1040
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: we all know.

1041
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: But I think I think new citizens, yeah, for sure,

1042
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: can make them record size he feels to make.

1043
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 4: But I think I think it's a way to do

1044
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: it and to because part of our job is to

1045
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 4: get people excited about being a part of what we're doing,

1046
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: absolutely creating, and I think there's a way to get

1047
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: people excited again about making art that you know, every

1048
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 4: label wants a artist is going to be performing at

1049
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 4: award shows or on artist that's going to be considered

1050
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: in these because it helps to push the narrative for

1051
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: it helps the streams, it helps everything.

1052
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: Is like.

1053
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: Finding a space where you can be authentic is very hard, right,

1054
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: But I feel like if you do it right and

1055
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: you have the right creatives involved with you, then I

1056
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: feel like you can have a good chance at doing

1057
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: it on a major stage, you know what I'm saying.

1058
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 4: And I feel like you also have to have the

1059
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: talent as well as the catalog to do it. And

1060
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in that space. So that's why

1061
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 4: I said the responsibility of being great is you have

1062
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: to consider all of these things when you're about to release,

1063
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, going to a project cycle

1064
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 4: and that's like it's one of my main my main

1065
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 4: things right now is make sure I stay true to that,

1066
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: like don't get lost in the oh. Just of course

1067
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: this record it sounds like a hit, No, like like

1068
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: create what is going to be the next standard? It's

1069
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 4: a responsibility.

1070
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: We won't do your Vultron. We're gonna make with R

1071
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: and B artists. We want to know who you're going

1072
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: to get the vocal from, the performance style, from the styling,

1073
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: from the passion of the artist.

1074
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: The heart of the artists come from James Brown.

1075
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna start to what you're gonna get? You

1076
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: want to start. Passion comes from James Brown, who's one

1077
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: of the baddest motherfuckers ever.

1078
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: The passion comes from James even.

1079
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: The way he talks it sound who feel.

1080
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 3: It's all right? It's all orders, it's all orders. It's

1081
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: very sergeant.

1082
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: Who are you getting the vocal from?

1083
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 4: There's so many ways to go with this because it's

1084
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: just like you know, it's it's so many amazing ones.

1085
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the vocal from. Can it be a

1086
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 4: mixture of two people.

1087
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: It has to be submissive, ultra ultimate vocal.

1088
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: It's a mixture between Whitney and.

1089
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 4: All right, take it away, sorry Whitney and lovey. Mixture

1090
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: between Stevie and Michael. Vocal wise, yeah, because with Michael

1091
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 4: you get the the Tomming, the texture I'm sorry, the Tomming,

1092
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: the conviction, the.

1093
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: Where he can go with his voice. With Stevie.

1094
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: You get the colors, you get everything in between. I

1095
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 4: would mix those two.

1096
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: I think Stevie is the classic portion of your vocal,

1097
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: whereas Michael was that early, right, but then Michael graduated

1098
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: into a stylist that Yeah, that set him that at

1099
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: any point, if you do anything remotely close to whim,

1100
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: it's him. Oh you're trying to be.

1101
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: Like my signature. I studied Michael.

1102
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 4: I don't lie, I study, but I study. I study.

1103
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: So I think my.

1104
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: Voice is a mixture between Michael, Stephen, and Marvin. If

1105
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: I was to put my voice together with three people,

1106
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: that Joe and.

1107
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: There to.

1108
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: Joe all of that conversation. Get it.

1109
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: Michael Linham too. Hell yeah, Charlie.

1110
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say, Joe, Charlie, Wow, that makes sense.

1111
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: And I gotta find you a false settle. Yeah, who

1112
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: had a fault? Who had a false?

1113
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: Like Maxwell?

1114
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: Maxwell had a crazy force.

1115
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: I love Max.

1116
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

1117
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Max has a nice floating false you have. You have

1118
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: ship in your false like I come from the false world.

1119
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: That's got a nasty false.

1120
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah clean, He does have a clean fuss.

1121
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: I put all three of those together and that's like, now.

1122
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: He has a clean fuss.

1123
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: You're in that space you because you have an honesty.

1124
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: It's like you said, you have a conviction and an honesty,

1125
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: and it's sincerity in your voice, which is why, like

1126
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: those heartfelt records always like you can do anything. Let's

1127
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: get that out the way. But nigga, when you when

1128
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: you when you look into a woman's eyes and say

1129
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: some real ship to her, nigga, she fucking believes you

1130
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: God for sure. Performance style? Whose performance style?

1131
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: Performance style a mixture between Bobby Brown and Michael mm hmm.

1132
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: You want to hump the stage and moon walk.

1133
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: But Michael was clean like Michael Michas Brown CB Yo,

1134
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: god c B.

1135
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: I even got a picture people style of.

1136
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: C B, but c B mixed with more uh like

1137
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: like like yeah c B c B.

1138
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: I would say more like more clean mic but not

1139
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 4: but see.

1140
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: You do that.

1141
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Micha was able to do another thing and dance that

1142
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: he was able to do infocals created signature that at

1143
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: this point for un avoidable. Yeah you want to dance,

1144
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit something, Mike, It's avoidable.

1145
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: Crazy, bro, Yeah, it's crazy.

1146
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: Because it was geometry. Michael was geometry. Hell yeah, you

1147
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. It's all gam tree I was.

1148
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy because I was watching this thing.

1149
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: The other day. What was it?

1150
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: Snake in the grass where.

1151
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: It comes from?

1152
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this ship is all.

1153
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1154
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: People don't even.

1155
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, all of it, even down

1156
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: to the outfit.

1157
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: And and and the metaphors in his conversation, Yeah yeah

1158
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: about it. It's like music. Michael was very spiritual in

1159
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: his music. Music was very mystical.

1160
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: Press was also going to be in my top five artists.

1161
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, my and my vulture on

1162
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 4: because he played every instrument he performed he was unpredictable

1163
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: for sure. So he's definitely in my vulture for sure.

1164
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1165
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: I seen that clip when he told uh, he ran

1166
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 2: into the homie at the club that he had fell

1167
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: out with andreamon. He said, they said, how did you

1168
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: How did you work it out when you see me

1169
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: say something?

1170
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: Come get this hit, don't get it? Come get this hit?

1171
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 3: He said.

1172
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 4: Then he said, wait, you're.

1173
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: Gonna go tomorrow at twelve. Yeah, And I'm like, this

1174
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: is fucking Prince Bro, Like, who runs up on you?

1175
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: Y'all got y'all got full b y'all not with each

1176
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: other at all, but you know you the magic man. Yeah,

1177
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: come get this hit. Come holler at me crazy. We

1178
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 3: don't like who does that? Now you gotta start running on.

1179
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: Nobody, but come get this hit.

1180
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: It's a couple of niggas. Might be still mad at

1181
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: you about drink champs, but you might have to. He

1182
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: was honest stuff. Hey, listen, this is a new world.

1183
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: Everybody can't handle that honesty.

1184
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: Everybody can handle. Real ship means no harm.

1185
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Styling of the artists.

1186
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: Hmmm, the drip. I think the drip who had crazy Drip?

1187
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, uh, because then you're just thinking about genre.

1188
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: You think about error, right, because there's so many different errors.

1189
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: Got this, who's the flies? Flies?

1190
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: I got close the artists, but naked.

1191
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: The backstage Right now we're figuring it out.

1192
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: We got a horse stand by.

1193
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: There ain't no wardrobe, got putist. You can't just put

1194
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: my artist in anything. You know, they have to be styled.

1195
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 4: I mean I think if someone who takes their wardrobe seriously,

1196
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: I would say that the mindset of Stalin, of Beyonce,

1197
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 4: the mindset yeah yeah. The reason why I say that

1198
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: is because whether it be a male Voltron or a

1199
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: female Votron, her her mindset of how she put our

1200
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 4: shows together and how serious she takes it.

1201
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, unmatched, so that you're not running to the mall

1202
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: find those clothes.

1203
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: Everything is it's custom, custom made, superstart.

1204
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: What we're doing right now, danswers everybody every day everything

1205
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: this is. This is not just a sonic experience.

1206
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: And you see somebody run to it, Oh you look

1207
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: like right, and everybody dressing.

1208
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: Everybody I had all shipped with silver on it.

1209
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 4: Yeah that's Vigo fashion, man, you gotta love it. It's

1210
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: like everything needs to be an experience, right, We get

1211
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: back to that though. We get back to that, by

1212
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: the way. So yeah, this this, this is this album,

1213
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: what we're creating right now, you know, this new era

1214
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 4: of Mario. I think that my fans deserve it. Music

1215
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: deserves it. I deserve it. The people that I'm working

1216
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 4: with deserve it. I mean excited about the conversations we've

1217
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: been having and just really creating it. We already have

1218
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 4: the name of the tour. I already have everything. It's

1219
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: already happening for me. When I go to sleep at night,

1220
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: I'm already on stage singing the new songs.

1221
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: You know that feeling, you know that feeling I drive

1222
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: in silence doing everything. That's feeling is that it's going

1223
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: to happen. That's that's exactly what you're talking about, that feeling. Yeah.

1224
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've come. Oh we've come.

1225
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying no saying no name, saying what you need.

1226
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, we've come to this day important, specially

1227
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: going on the show. Hey man, this is you know,

1228
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: this is serious, ship man serious. So right now we're

1229
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: at the segment of the show it's called I ain't

1230
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: saying no names.

1231
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 4: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying that I

1232
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 4: ain't saying no name, no no no names, saying we.

1233
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Said some names, we shout some people out. But now

1234
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: it's time to tell your story funny or fucked up?

1235
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: Are funny and fucked up?

1236
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a few of them.

1237
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: You're doing, you are, Mario, so you can tell us

1238
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: all of them if you would like. Okay, let's see

1239
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: so real quick right now, right now.

1240
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: The only rule to the game. I ain't saying that

1241
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: you can't do it.

1242
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: Say no.

1243
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 4: I've never been a name dropping I know that about me.

1244
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: You'll know I ain't the nigga to be.

1245
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: This ain't it.

1246
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't even like games like this. You like it?

1247
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 4: You like you like if the games is moving silad noah,

1248
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: But okay, I had it to a it headed to

1249
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 4: a private event, private jet.

1250
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: Like oh the jet too, oh, private event on a

1251
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: private private event on a private jet.

1252
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 4: It's me one of my representations. There's a lady, beautiful lady,

1253
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: a little bit older than me at the time that

1254
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: I'm like twenty two. Maybe a couple other people see.

1255
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if I should tell this story, because ladies,

1256
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 4: listen when I tell you this story. This ain't no

1257
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 4: kissing and telling type shit. This is just like you

1258
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, This ain't I don't do this,

1259
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 4: but it's funny. It's the first thing that came to

1260
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: my mind while I think about all this shit to tell.

1261
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 4: Were on the jet, anybody going to sleep? Just me

1262
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 4: and a young lady up were sipping. But it's like,

1263
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's a bed in the back, everybody else

1264
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 4: sleeping on the outside. Man, I passed up on an

1265
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: experience because I was I wasn't like I was shy

1266
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 4: ish at the moment, and it was just it was

1267
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 4: a lot of people around, but it was sleep and

1268
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: this young ladies like you were older lady. But the

1269
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 4: young lady she's like, yo, let's go to the back.

1270
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 4: But I was also a fan, and I'm like, this

1271
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: is not this is really about to happen right now

1272
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: like this, and so we get you know what I'm saying.

1273
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 4: She get up, she goes to the back. She basically

1274
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: invited me to the back of the plane with jet joint.

1275
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, fucking, I'm about to go. I'm about to

1276
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: do this. Take a little sip, get to the back,

1277
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: close the door. We start to ride for a minute,

1278
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 4: just then fucking crazy turbulentce stuff.

1279
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: No, I swear God when I tell you, when.

1280
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 4: I tell you, the turbulence got everybody woke up, create everybody.

1281
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: So we're up. And if I tell you who it is,

1282
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna be like, oh.

1283
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: My, but this is like, this is like when a

1284
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: thing popping right now and the Lord.

1285
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: Bro. And it never the moment never really presented, you know,

1286
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: the moment, it never really presented itself.

1287
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: Again, We've all been there.

1288
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1289
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: It was like, damn God, what did I do to

1290
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 3: what I did? I did something what I do to

1291
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: deserve that? It was crazy, it was.

1292
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 4: It was about to be crazy. But yeah, you want

1293
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 4: to run that back for to run that back, but

1294
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 4: it was like already you know it's crazy. God, you

1295
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: could have run that back.

1296
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: Gave me one.

1297
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of them. It was.

1298
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 4: It was one of them. You know what I'm saying.

1299
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: It was it was.

1300
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: It would have been an upper upper echelon. Yeah, it

1301
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: was crazy. See, I mean yeah, I got a few stories. Okay,

1302
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 4: exclusive man, this might owe me publishing on a record

1303
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 4: they owed you. They owe me because of an opportunity

1304
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 4: that was fought for for them. And then they renegged

1305
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: on the whole ship. I had an agreement, agreement, I'm

1306
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 4: gonna do this for you because it seemed like the

1307
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: right thing to do, but I'm gonna need this. But

1308
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 4: to this day, that's always argued that, Nah, that ain't

1309
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 4: the way the story went, you know, And sometimes in

1310
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 4: the game you think like, damn, this is my big bro,

1311
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 4: this is this yeah, and it happened, and it's like damn,

1312
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 4: you know it was. It was a hard lesson to

1313
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: learn that I can't really undo because this is already done.

1314
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 4: Can't you know what I'm saying, thought about it, argued

1315
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: about it, you know what I'm saying. But it's like

1316
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 4: crazy because it's like it's one of the things where

1317
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 4: I probably I don't know if I'm gonna work with

1318
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: the person again because of that, and we could probably

1319
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: make an amazing music. But it's like that's crazy, you

1320
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I don't know if y'all been

1321
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 4: in that situation before, but it's fucked up. It's a

1322
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: fucked up feeling when it's like damn, it's like it's

1323
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 4: like taking advantage of the opportunity, you know, and it's

1324
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 4: not even worth it, right, we all getting money.

1325
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: Like, there's so much of it, it's like a lot.

1326
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: There's no reason to ruin.

1327
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think for me personally, I've always

1328
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: took the stance of I'll just go ahead second. We

1329
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: figured that out, you know what I'm saying, Like players

1330
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: don't keep scoring. I look at life, you know what

1331
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean. I believe that our gifts mm hmm are

1332
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: more valuable than anything else.

1333
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: For sure.

1334
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: You know that the opportunity to the work again, or

1335
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: just the opportunity to just feel good in that same

1336
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: room with somebody like person man, even if even if

1337
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: I had to be the one to give them the extra,

1338
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: it's still like, you know what, We're good, brot.

1339
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: It's all good. So I understand it.

1340
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, get your take split sheets to the sessions.

1341
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure you cannot. You can sue based on hearsay,

1342
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: but it's a very expensive process to win. Yeah, get

1343
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: the split sits, y'all.

1344
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like it's like a weird thing in the studio.

1345
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: It depends though.

1346
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 4: I think motherfuckers who like really love this ship and

1347
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: who really like respect the art and really respect what's

1348
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 4: going on, Like it's No, there's no real problem with

1349
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 4: saying like yo, even if not especially it's text message

1350
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: group text like yo, you're gonna and if you trust

1351
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 4: them then you do that then.

1352
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: But like, but it's just like what happens is is

1353
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: that we are just humans, and as humans we are unpredictable.

1354
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: Our situation and circumstances can become unpredictable and lead all

1355
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: of us individuals into some different places to where that

1356
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: conversation that was happening then I felt good. I felt

1357
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 1: great about it then.

1358
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: Or the record and the opportunity itself turns into something

1359
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: bigger and everybody like.

1360
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: Oh.

1361
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: See what I normally get. You know, I don't even

1362
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: normally really do.

1363
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: I think the other part too, And this is something

1364
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: that I would say to all writers. Be honest with

1365
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: yourself about your participation. And I think a lot of

1366
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: times people aren't honest that sometimes you were just in

1367
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: the room.

1368
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just put the play together.

1369
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: Be like I'm gonna need such and such percentage on

1370
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: this publishing from just putting a play together last minute

1371
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: or it won't happen type ship. There's so many ways

1372
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 4: that people play with this ship. You know what I'm

1373
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 4: saying list, and to me, I'm cool with it as

1374
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 4: long as it makes sense.

1375
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: As long as it's articulated.

1376
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but as long as it makes sense, Bro, he's

1377
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: not gonna bully me off some ship.

1378
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: Let's have a conversation, that's yeah for sure. Let's have

1379
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: a real conversation and really write this ship down.

1380
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1381
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, whatever is agreed upon, it's a great We

1382
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: don't even have to rehashit it no more. Look at

1383
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: this paper man that I that I email to my

1384
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: to all of our lawyers. Yeah, it shouldn't be uncomfortable

1385
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: handling that type of business. Shouldn't be uncomfortable. It should

1386
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: just be honest. Like us we get in the room,

1387
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: we just nigga who always in here with us, travel up.

1388
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: But we also want to make sure that you know

1389
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: we're official too. Nigga, you run a business.

1390
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: Man for sure.

1391
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: It ain't I didn't have them sometimes it's I don't

1392
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 3: do sessions like that no more.

1393
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: Though.

1394
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: Like it's like, if you're in the room, you're a contributor. Yeah,

1395
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if you the homie, you just popping through something.

1396
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 4: But like, I'm so energetically sensitive. My energy is very

1397
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 4: sensitive to things. That's why I don't always, you know,

1398
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 4: I always so use like Nigga, come to do it.

1399
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, we're gonna do it at the right timing.

1400
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm happy that this is happening right

1401
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: now because I do think it's the time is person figure.

1402
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: I love this new space that and the energy is

1403
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,520
Speaker 4: amazing here. We definitely gonna come here and make some shit. Absolutely,

1404
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 4: you know, make some hiss, but like you know, everything

1405
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 4: is like we had a space now, it's not we

1406
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 4: don't have time to waste energy. It's purposeful. It's got

1407
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 4: to be that, you know. I take it that serious,

1408
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I love where R and

1409
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 4: B is at right now. I love where we are,

1410
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 4: and I love the platforms we got and I think

1411
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: people are wanting that again. People are. You said something

1412
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: in the drink Tramps in an interview. You were like,

1413
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 4: it's the love that they're afraid of our love, right,

1414
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 4: And that can come in so many different forms, but

1415
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 4: typically love is honest, right. It's if it's ugly, it's ugly.

1416
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: If it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

1417
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: Let the art be what it is.

1418
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: Every art piece is not the same, but let artists

1419
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 4: be the most perfected version of what it is that

1420
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 4: they are, and let's give that to the world. If

1421
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 4: it wins, it wins, if it doesn't. What you did,

1422
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: you just gave an artist another reason to keep going great.

1423
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 4: When Quincy and Michael was doing do you think they

1424
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 4: knew exactly what Thriller was gonna be? I just think

1425
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 4: they did exactly what the fuck They felt like it

1426
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: was great to them at the highest level, and the

1427
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 4: world was like, oh, ship embraced. We got to get

1428
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 4: back to that. That's what New Citizen is. Baby, You're

1429
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 4: about to get to.

1430
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: Look producers, you're gonna get your credits and your publisher.

1431
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: God Mario, we are, we are, we are shoot man.

1432
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: We're fans of your brother.

1433
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 4: Man, I'm a fan of Thank you, bro, speak one

1434
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 4: and we have appreciate.

1435
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: Nothing but love and admiration for you. We have nothing but.

1436
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: Support, appreciate you.

1437
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, If if if if they

1438
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: asked us about you to call this nigga live, appreciate

1439
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: just how we run it.

1440
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep pushing the little man and getting back

1441
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 4: in the gym, you know what I'm saying.

1442
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: And we thank you for being here.

1443
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 3: Man. You know you.

1444
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: You know your time is precious money baby, and people

1445
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: people are looking for you all here when coming up.

1446
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 3: Cool? I like that y'all enjoyed it. Man.

1447
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: That y'all you know we gave you everything that you're

1448
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 4: wanting to hear.

1449
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1450
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: I know y'all working on some big things for the

1451
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 4: Army Money Podcast. He told me some stuff behind the scenes.

1452
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: I love it. Man.

1453
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: Listen, bro, you can come and sit in time. Even

1454
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: if you do an episode where we just kicked the

1455
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: ship talk music.

1456
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: For sure for s to do that, be a resident. Yes,

1457
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1458
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

1459
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 3: My name is Tank Valentine. You ain't gonna let me

1460
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 3: do my ship. I can come on. Hold on, hey man, man,

1461
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm starting.

1462
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: Let me start up.

1463
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: Here.

1464
01:15:54,439 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: You go with your ship, went to starting ship.

1465
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: Gave me a past this, nigga, Just reo my past

1466
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 3: that easy. This is the ship. Be niggas be still.

1467
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: Let them start over.

1468
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 4: This Maria.

1469
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 3: Because you want to singing ship, I'm selling.

1470
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Time. My name is Tan all the time. See your

1471
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: nigga ship, I can't, Mario.

1472
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: And then we get it up.

1473
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: And listen to the Army Money Podcast. The authority of

1474
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: all things R and B man. And it has been

1475
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: our loved one, this has been our brother brother, This

1476
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: is this is this is an R and B mother

1477
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: fucking sagon man.

1478
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: Appreciate Yeah Ye money. I.

1479
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,760
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01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,560
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