Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hey, no episode. I don't know what
Speaker 1: number we're on, but I'm just so happy that we're
Speaker 1: on six or seven. I think six or seven or
Speaker 1: maybe eight. Well, I've got exciting news about the number
Speaker 1: seven because we got a little hint about what the
Speaker 1: number seven maybe detrimental to your relationship. Dr Oz is
Speaker 1: going to join us later. This guy is the most
Speaker 1: interesting man that you should definitely invite to your next
Speaker 1: dinner party because we've all been vaccinated hopefully or will
Speaker 1: be by the time this airs. Dr Oz is a dream.
Speaker 1: He will be coming up later in this podcast. But
Speaker 1: right now, Aaron and I are are a quest to
Speaker 1: ensure that the viewers are getting what they want. We
Speaker 1: asked questions and you guys answered. We appreciate all of you, Aaron,
Speaker 1: the questions that we asked. We're all about relationships, right Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I got this idea from our good friend Ryan Russelo.
Speaker 1: He just said how much on he would have on
Speaker 1: his show when people would submit emails or questions or
Speaker 1: d m s to him, and he'd I love him
Speaker 1: so much. Even talked about after his arrest, people wanted
Speaker 1: to know if they could he could offer life advice.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 1: steal this from you and we're gonna do it. Do
Speaker 1: you mind? And he said, no, have at it. So
Speaker 1: this week particularly, we asked people for dating if they
Speaker 1: wanted dating advice. I don't know why we became you know,
Speaker 1: the gurus on that, but our first question is do
Speaker 1: nice guys really finished last? What I mean basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: do do you guys have to be dad? Like? What
Speaker 1: do you think? Go? Alright? Alright, right, so let's back
Speaker 1: up here real quickly. Ryan Still, who's like one of
Speaker 1: our well, he is our best guy friend. Ryan right
Speaker 1: now is in an undisclosed location because he's vacationing by himself.
Speaker 1: Because this is what Ryan does. He gets some relationships
Speaker 1: and then he goes on vacation by himself and he
Speaker 1: like those in this full brand. So why this becomes
Speaker 1: hysterical about this question is because Ryan is a really
Speaker 1: nice guy. And for a while I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: could I date Bryan? Because him and I were so No,
Speaker 1: it's not a whoe, these are facts. Him and I
Speaker 1: were so close, like he was like, truly my best
Speaker 1: guy friend, So I'm like, why why am I not
Speaker 1: dating Ryan? Like we're both like single, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: And the reality was like, Brian are too much alike
Speaker 1: would kill each other. But to get back to the question,
Speaker 1: and if Ryan was here and not in an area
Speaker 1: that had no WiFi to loom uh, then he'd be
Speaker 1: able to chime in right now. Nice guys, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: always finished first because I ended up marrying someone that
Speaker 1: is so much nicer than I am, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's so nice. I don't know if I could be
Speaker 1: with him, But ultimately, like I don't want to be
Speaker 1: with a dick, Like I've dated a lot of okay
Speaker 1: and not interested and it's fun for a while, like
Speaker 1: oh you have to chase them and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But now I want somebody that I know it's dependable,
Speaker 1: that I know he's not going to cheat on me,
Speaker 1: and that I know it's like somebody I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: proud to be the father of my children. So yes,
Speaker 1: And I keep waiting for my guy to come downstairs
Speaker 1: as he's headed to the hockey rank Babe, Nope, anyway,
Speaker 1: but I will say that listen, Yeah, it's good to
Speaker 1: have a nice guy. I think my husband's a very
Speaker 1: nice guy. I don't know really anybody that doesn't like him.
Speaker 1: But I will preface that nice guy but knows when
Speaker 1: to be firm when he's dealing with me in terms
Speaker 1: of my attitude being a little pushy because I can't
Speaker 1: date a pushover and or marry one. Apparently, um so
Speaker 1: I appreciate that about him, nice guy, but I need
Speaker 1: a little attitude in there too. It's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. It's like a quarterback. You can't
Speaker 1: just have a nice guy quarterback. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: have a guy with a little lattitude. That's like you
Speaker 1: see that. Look what I just didn't. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it isn't okay, because I'm
Speaker 1: with you. The person has to that we marry has
Speaker 1: to stand up to us because we are very aggressive.
Speaker 1: Jared getting here? Do you think nice guys finished last? Jarrett?
Speaker 1: You do? Wait? The question is Jarrett, hold on, hold on, Jared,
Speaker 1: you won't be able to hear CHRISA. But do you
Speaker 1: think last or WHOA? Do you think nice guys really
Speaker 1: finished last? People say like you would you rather like
Speaker 1: like the guys that are dicks always come out as
Speaker 1: the winners in a relationship. No, you're just confused. You're
Speaker 1: worried about power play and penalty kill. Let's go Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Kings by day. I love you. You You know what
Speaker 1: you gotta know. Love, you have a great You look right,
Speaker 1: you look right? But what was good? He's worried? No, No,
Speaker 1: what does what does Jared say when he remember the
Speaker 1: other day we're on the FaceTime? I was like, Jerry,
Speaker 1: look right. Say my husband is um. He works a
Speaker 1: part of the development of the Los Angeles Kings and
Speaker 1: also does the broadcast. And he loves when you talk
Speaker 1: about his outfit. And I'll say I said to Chris,
Speaker 1: I say that his outfit looks great, and he'll say
Speaker 1: it does right, he loves he loves an outfit. She
Speaker 1: didn't even have to call me. He looked great. So yes,
Speaker 1: nice guys do finish first, not last. Next question, Next question,
Speaker 1: what makes marriage number two a good idea of versus
Speaker 1: keeping it a long term relationship? Well, since I'm the
Speaker 1: only person here that's been married twice, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: marriage number one. Uh, person was I got married when
Speaker 1: I was twenty six, I went to break up with him.
Speaker 1: I was in a lunch date with him and I
Speaker 1: was like really into him, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta break up with him because I'm just starting my career.
Speaker 1: I can't be tied down the whole thing. So I
Speaker 1: went to break up with him, and he goes, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married. We went to Hollywood got ring tattoos,
Speaker 1: which I've since had removed eleven removals later. I got
Speaker 1: married three days later. We're married for four years. He
Speaker 1: wasn't the right guy obviously, So why did marriage number
Speaker 1: to work out better instead of just being, you know,
Speaker 1: just having just dating Kyle Because I am now thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old and I had no reason being married
Speaker 1: at I will say to anyone that's out there, I
Speaker 1: think there's like this whole idea else against me from
Speaker 1: the eye. I thought that I needed to be married
Speaker 1: when I first got into this business because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be single and be interviewing athletes, because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to give athletes the idea that like, oh
Speaker 1: I was single and the whole weirdness because there is
Speaker 1: it's like you have to be a hundred percent. I
Speaker 1: thought that I was more credible being married than I
Speaker 1: was being single. So for me, no, but the but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's by the athletes. I think that's
Speaker 1: by the outside people, which really pisces me off. And
Speaker 1: I see that because they think if you're being nice
Speaker 1: to an athlete or smiling when you're single or even
Speaker 1: when you're married, you just want to hook up, which
Speaker 1: is so wrong. By the way, there's there's so many
Speaker 1: this is it's its own podcast, by the way, which
Speaker 1: maybe we'll make it one. The question was why is
Speaker 1: my second marriage better than my I waited, why what
Speaker 1: makes marriage number two? Yeah? Good idea versus just dating
Speaker 1: Kyle for a long time. I'm older. I got married
Speaker 1: at thirty eight years old, like I believe, and this
Speaker 1: is coming from someone whose parents got married when they
Speaker 1: were eighteen. I am a much different person now than
Speaker 1: I was at twenty six when I got married the
Speaker 1: first time, and that I am a thirty eight I
Speaker 1: am so glad that I lived life. I was with
Speaker 1: the wrong people. I did a lot of bad things
Speaker 1: and now and Kyle will say the sue, live your
Speaker 1: life and then when you finally meet the person you're
Speaker 1: supposed to meet, then you can be like, uh, I
Speaker 1: did it all, so I'm good. So yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: in waiting to marry the right person. All right. I
Speaker 1: think this next question could actually go into the other
Speaker 1: question that follows it, so we'll combine them. Advice for
Speaker 1: single ladies looking for a husband and also how do
Speaker 1: you stay as I when all your friends are getting
Speaker 1: married when you're still single? Like Chris out well, for
Speaker 1: my you know, my only marriage, I was like thirty
Speaker 1: eight thirty nine when I got married, so everybody in
Speaker 1: my life was getting married. I mean I found more
Speaker 1: in my twenties, and maybe because I grew up in
Speaker 1: the South, it was such a big deal that I
Speaker 1: wasn't married then in my thirties. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: There was the pressure of like, shit, am I gonna
Speaker 1: have kids? Or am I gonna be dried up by
Speaker 1: the time I meet this guy? Then start stuff starts
Speaker 1: getting crazy, like you get cervical cancer, you don't even
Speaker 1: know if you can have kids. I mean that throws
Speaker 1: a real rench into it. But I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: It's like Chris has said, you start getting older and
Speaker 1: you start being like, okay, you know what some random
Speaker 1: wedding with eighteen bridesmaids that are wearing like c foam
Speaker 1: green and like, it's not fucking worth it. It's just
Speaker 1: not you want to, you know, meet the right person. Now.
Speaker 1: My husband and I had dated for like five six
Speaker 1: years before we got engaged. Thank god for Terry Bradshaw,
Speaker 1: who was like, is this guy gonna put a ring
Speaker 1: on your finger or what? I mean? This is crazy? Wait?
Speaker 1: Does he the Is he the reason you got married
Speaker 1: to put pressure on you? By the way, for the
Speaker 1: viewers that don't know, are the listeners that don't know
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan introduced you to and now Terry Bradshaw's the
Speaker 1: reason you guys went to the altars? What you're telling us? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well why Apparently Terry was drunk one night
Speaker 1: shocker in the ballroom and like talked to Jarrett at
Speaker 1: some point and was just like, listen, it's not getting
Speaker 1: better than this, but whatever, Um no, I just you
Speaker 1: know what yourself. No, dude, I'm not gonna let you
Speaker 1: keep going. You did the Matcheska at the Jersey accent.
Speaker 1: You got a Terry Bradshaw Oklahoma. Your accent game is
Speaker 1: like second to none. What would Troy say about your engagement, Well, Troy,
Speaker 1: Troy announced my engagement at a Green Bay packers uh meeting.
Speaker 1: Hey do you hear the news e A got engaged?
Speaker 1: Um so, any who. What I was gonna say was
Speaker 1: anybody that is so stressed out about getting just stopped.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help. It's like trying to get pregnant. It
Speaker 1: doesn't help. Just calm down, it's gonna happen. Calm down.
Speaker 1: I met Kyle. I was on a plane to go
Speaker 1: do a Daniel Hunter interview. I had a boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the time, which I knew was the wrong guy for
Speaker 1: a year and a half. I was dating him. Aaron
Speaker 1: can attest this. She never even got to meet the guy.
Speaker 1: That's how weird you come in maybe exactly We're supposed
Speaker 1: to meet at the restaurants. Like I'm not going in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is weird. Anyways, wrong relationship on the
Speaker 1: plane and meet Kyle and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: my husband. And I got the plane and I told
Speaker 1: my makeup arts at the time because I was going
Speaker 1: to meet him. I'm like, sal, I just met my
Speaker 1: Husband's like, don't you have a boyfriend. I'm like, not
Speaker 1: for long? But you were asleep the whole time. That's
Speaker 1: what it actually goes into the next question and pick
Speaker 1: up line. On the plane, I was like, Prisa, you
Speaker 1: were asleep when he was trying to pick him up.
Speaker 1: I was. It was a six am flight to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and luckily Fox had booked the ticket, so my contract
Speaker 1: designated that I was in a first class seat, and
Speaker 1: I was like six am, six am, And because I
Speaker 1: knew that the second I got off the plane with
Speaker 1: the time change, that I was going to have to
Speaker 1: go straight to do the interviews. So my we was
Speaker 1: already in that it was like ponytail, so full we ponytail,
Speaker 1: but no makeup. And I sat down and I remember
Speaker 1: like like discombobulated, five thirty last person on the plane, like,
Speaker 1: what's the flight? What's the seat? Never? And so I
Speaker 1: went to put my bag in the overhead compartment and
Speaker 1: the guy in which I now know is seat right. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but the seat before him seat four. And I only
Speaker 1: know that because now five A and five V, which
Speaker 1: was our seats, it resonates. I also have a tattoo
Speaker 1: of it. The guy four was like, oh, you can
Speaker 1: go in here, and I was like, oh, thanks for
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm, but I'm actually in this seat. So then
Speaker 1: Kyle like started laughing, and so Kyle got and I like,
Speaker 1: I sat at the window designated seat whatever, like the
Speaker 1: window seat, and then we fell asleep. Was a six
Speaker 1: am flight, and so the flight we're on we fell
Speaker 1: asleep too. Yeah, because I turned out you guys slept
Speaker 1: together your first meeting. What wouldn't be the first time?
Speaker 1: Whoa mile high club. We used protection. We had a
Speaker 1: mask on. No, you didn't know his pre COVID when
Speaker 1: we were just animals. So the flights on it just
Speaker 1: said the flight attendant goes, you know, twenty minutes we're
Speaker 1: going to be at our destination. We wake up and
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, isn't your name Sharissa, And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's Corissa, but yeah, and he goes, yeah, you hosted
Speaker 1: this forty under forty sports business general thing I was
Speaker 1: at or whatever. Good to see you, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm good to see you too. And we then talked
Speaker 1: and we were getting off the plane and we ended
Speaker 1: up getting coffee together and I was like, I gotta go,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this interview. And then I text my
Speaker 1: makeup art and I was like, I just met my husband.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't you have a boyfriend. I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not the guy I'm talking to. So anyways, three
Speaker 1: days later, I broke up with my boyfriend over the phone,
Speaker 1: and Kyle and I got engaged three months later. So
Speaker 1: the reality is I had never even set next to
Speaker 1: anyone I was interested in. And there you go. So
Speaker 1: don't worry about if you meet Mr Wright. It should
Speaker 1: be when it's right now. Yeah, let it go. I'll say,
Speaker 1: stop complaining. Hey, by the way, that slept together joke.
Speaker 1: The person who taught me this is a tangent for
Speaker 1: all days. My second job of my career was with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves. I worked with TBS. That's when God
Speaker 1: love him. Skip Carrie was still calling the games with
Speaker 1: Joe Simpson. We flew back somewhere to Atlanta. He was
Speaker 1: in the seat next to me. I was too. We
Speaker 1: both passed out when we woke up. Skip Ghosts. Well
Speaker 1: now I can tell everyone I've slept with Aaron Andrews.
Speaker 1: God love you, Skip Carrie. He was just so fantastic.
Speaker 1: Loved him so much. Any who, Okay, our next question
Speaker 1: is tips for balancing a work schedule, heavy work schedule
Speaker 1: in a relationship doesn't make time to have sex. That's
Speaker 1: what Kevin Hart said. I it's a hard one and
Speaker 1: I think you need all the help you can get.
Speaker 1: My husband's really good about telling me to put my
Speaker 1: damn phone away. Our time is our time. We try
Speaker 1: to make date night. We are, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: have kids, and that's actually gonna put probably a big
Speaker 1: dent in this situation of trying to figure out this relationship.
Speaker 1: But look, I want to work, he wants to work.
Speaker 1: We both love our jobs. We want to get better.
Speaker 1: We're both putting more projects on our plate. But we
Speaker 1: love each other so much that we know in order
Speaker 1: to coexist, we have to be happy work wise and
Speaker 1: we have to be happy with our relationship. So we
Speaker 1: just try to make it a point communication to which
Speaker 1: is that's that's a fun game. Hey, we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: these up. So what we're gonna do. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: a little twist. I love hearing you know what people
Speaker 1: want us to talk about and answering your questions. Next time,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the details via our Camp down
Speaker 1: podcast Instagram. But we're actually gonna have you come on
Speaker 1: the podcast all of you that have questions and submit live,
Speaker 1: which I think that would be so freaking fun. So
Speaker 1: we'll we'll get you guys the details for that. I
Speaker 1: love that Dr Odds is joining us next. He's got
Speaker 1: advice on everything and anything, and stay with us again
Speaker 1: at Calm Down Podcast. Ernan Andrew's, Chris and j Thompson
Speaker 1: subscribe to join all the Things. We'll be back with
Speaker 1: more after this. This guy does not need an introduction.
Speaker 1: Dr Oz. You have so many titles, so many jobs
Speaker 1: written on this sheet of paper. I don't need to
Speaker 1: list them all down. How are you? Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us. I'm doing very Wellsher point out that most
Speaker 1: of that vision board that got me those titles came
Speaker 1: from my wife Lisa, thirty six years than I ever
Speaker 1: did with the What's the Secret thirty seven years I
Speaker 1: met for Chris is at a couple of months with
Speaker 1: four different It's a it's a very important secret. If
Speaker 1: you're scious, I'll tell you have to recognize that men
Speaker 1: married the woman exactly as they want them and then
Speaker 1: you guys want to change because you want to get better,
Speaker 1: and women married the man. We they you know we
Speaker 1: can become and we don't want to change. So from
Speaker 1: the moment we get married or hooked up, we're starting
Speaker 1: to spread away from each other and we got to
Speaker 1: reconnect to Every seven years, you have to make an
Speaker 1: earnest effort to remember you're not the same person you
Speaker 1: were seven years prior to that. You've got to reinvent
Speaker 1: the relationship. And the reason it's seven years is because
Speaker 1: you have hormonal handcuffs on. Initially you fall in love,
Speaker 1: your atos and seratonin, all these hormones surging through your
Speaker 1: body or love. And that's probably why biologically makes sense
Speaker 1: that why you're staying together with the kids are young.
Speaker 1: But you've got to reinvent yourself beyond the biology of love,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna happen because you look for other things. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is why we wanted you on our podcast because
Speaker 1: Aaron and I are not an expert in a lot
Speaker 1: of things. We may be an expert in sports and
Speaker 1: some areas, but we're not an expert in relationships. Were
Speaker 1: not an expert in medicine, but you are all of
Speaker 1: the things. That was incredible and so true. Is that
Speaker 1: why the seven year itches a thing? Oh for sure?
Speaker 1: And again, if you think about it. After seven years,
Speaker 1: the child that has been conceived is sort of able
Speaker 1: to help a little bit. Then they can't go off
Speaker 1: on their own. But you're not changing diapers anymore. Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's it's unfortunate, but it's a reality that the
Speaker 1: initial hormonal tools that are used to glue us together,
Speaker 1: they know, they begin to wear off. You start looking around,
Speaker 1: which is of course the reason that you have to
Speaker 1: find other reasons to love your soul mate, because you
Speaker 1: can't just be physical about it. Physicality is always going
Speaker 1: to be important, and I always encourage people never forget that,
Speaker 1: you know, sex and the marriage is vital. That stated,
Speaker 1: there has to be other things beyond that, and beyond
Speaker 1: just talking about your kids that continue to to glue you.
Speaker 1: My parents said we'd fight about two things in marriage,
Speaker 1: sex and money. So if you don't fight about those
Speaker 1: two things and you've got a good chance to survive.
Speaker 1: They've been married since they were eighteen, they had no money,
Speaker 1: and apparently there had a lot of sex because there's
Speaker 1: three of us. So it is what it is. Wait,
Speaker 1: can I ask about reinventing yourself? Okay, wait, so I
Speaker 1: have I think this will be our that's not a
Speaker 1: good start. Fourth wedding anniversary. So we have three more
Speaker 1: years until we reinvent Where do you start? Where do
Speaker 1: you begin? Where do you look? Oh my, I'm taking notes. Well,
Speaker 1: the first big stumbling block is the guy doesn't really
Speaker 1: know what text going on, and we just because well
Speaker 1: we're hard wired to go after goals. That's what you
Speaker 1: want us to be able to do it. When I say, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the masculine energy, feminine energy. You can
Speaker 1: be any gender you want, but the energy of of
Speaker 1: the masculine player is gonna be aimed for the target.
Speaker 1: Hit the target, go after it again. The word sin,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's actually are a archery term. If
Speaker 1: you hit the target in the middle of the of
Speaker 1: the bull's eye that's hitting your target, you miss it.
Speaker 1: That's a sin. So in order to hit the bulls eye,
Speaker 1: getta know where the bull's eye is, and you have
Speaker 1: to be aiming for it. Guys, know where the bull's
Speaker 1: eye is, the aim for it. You'll get it. But
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the wrong bulls eye. So if you hit
Speaker 1: that bull's eye, you're still wrong because it wasn't what
Speaker 1: you should have been aiming for. And so we're completely
Speaker 1: oblivious the bigger issues you've got to pursue in life.
Speaker 1: I'll just make it personal. So I graduate from I
Speaker 1: played football in college. I loved sports. I got the
Speaker 1: medical school. I wanted to be a doctor. I was
Speaker 1: really passionate about heart surgery, which is my specialty. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a bigger vision than that. I could have
Speaker 1: done that for my entire life, and I probably would
Speaker 1: have been just fine. Lisa, on the other hand, said,
Speaker 1: you come home from work lamenting the fact that so
Speaker 1: many the people you're gonna operate on could have avoided
Speaker 1: the need for you to take a scalpel to their chest,
Speaker 1: a band saw through their chest bone. And so don't
Speaker 1: tell me you're happy. You might think you're happy, but
Speaker 1: if you actually dig deeper, you realize there's a bigger
Speaker 1: play here if you can make it happy. And so
Speaker 1: she was the one who started pushing me. She's remember
Speaker 1: the visine commercials. You guys made me too young, But
Speaker 1: there were these famous commercials with the bloodshot eyes of
Speaker 1: a model. Yes, yes, those are my wife's eyes. Lisa,
Speaker 1: she goes one of those viazine models. She had clear
Speaker 1: vision with you, So she would say because you knew
Speaker 1: a little bit of a show business. You have wasting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to tell people about health, because if you
Speaker 1: give American a message to health, they're listen to it.
Speaker 1: The reason they're not acting healthy is they haven't gotten
Speaker 1: the message. You never gave it to him. So that
Speaker 1: changed my trajectory and made me think more about what
Speaker 1: we need to tell people outside the Ivory Tower. I'm
Speaker 1: at Columbia University and York Presterian Hospital. It's a great
Speaker 1: place to practice. I never would have to leave, but
Speaker 1: all around me in New York City, their health catastrophe
Speaker 1: has taken place. So if she could could get me
Speaker 1: to go beyond the Ivory Tower, I could actually make
Speaker 1: an impact. It's much greater than the number of people
Speaker 1: I do heart surgery on. And that was the beginning
Speaker 1: for me. That's how I met Oprah. It's actually Lisa
Speaker 1: and Oprah conspired to create the Doctorage show and to
Speaker 1: get me to leave medicine as a full time professional.
Speaker 1: I still practiced, but only part time and go and
Speaker 1: start doing interviews like this. That's incredible. So you you
Speaker 1: first debuted on Oprah in two thousand nine, right, I
Speaker 1: met Oprah in two thousand three, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: how it happened because it fascinating story. It's all because
Speaker 1: of Gail King. It was one of the coolest, most
Speaker 1: influential women period in the country. I approached Gail, who
Speaker 1: was an editor at Hurst Magazine, and I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I've got to show that my wife has put together
Speaker 1: called Second Opinion. It's basically me revisiting all the major
Speaker 1: things that rereak havoc in your life. And I need
Speaker 1: to have a big dame guest to launch the show.
Speaker 1: Could you get Oprah come on with me? So she
Speaker 1: called open and said, this guy's got a vision for
Speaker 1: help that I think agrees with what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And Oprah loves teaching that she really, I mean, she
Speaker 1: should have been a teacher, that's what she really likes
Speaker 1: to do. So she agreed one the day when she
Speaker 1: was in New York to come on the show, and
Speaker 1: she did, and she was my first guest, and we
Speaker 1: had a blast, and there were a bunch of articles
Speaker 1: written about it, and her producers saw them and asked
Speaker 1: me if i'd revisit what we had done on my
Speaker 1: show on her show, much bigger platform, obviously, and so
Speaker 1: that was the that was the beginning of it, and
Speaker 1: initially the reason I was in scrubs because people always say,
Speaker 1: you know, curious about how that happened. I was so
Speaker 1: naive about television that I put a nice suit like
Speaker 1: this on. I fly to Chicago from New York when
Speaker 1: I practiced medicine, I bring my organs in an eagle cooler.
Speaker 1: They thought they must have thought I was Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 1: Literally organs in a cooler going through security, and i'd
Speaker 1: I'd end up at her set. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get my suit dirty, so I would change into scrubs,
Speaker 1: fourteen dollar cotton scrubs because they wouldn't, you know, they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Who cares if they smell a little bit from formaldehyde.
Speaker 1: And I go out and do the shows. And what
Speaker 1: turned what initially was at naives almost foolish maneuver, and
Speaker 1: they're becoming really cool because people said, if the Scrubs
Speaker 1: are on, he's gonna show Organs, and that became one
Speaker 1: of the markers of the episodes I would do with her.
Speaker 1: I probably did any plus shows with Oprah over the
Speaker 1: course of those five or six years. Wow, you talked
Speaker 1: about Oprah being a teacher. What do you think she's
Speaker 1: taught you? Like, the biggest lesson she's taught you? Dtr
Speaker 1: eyes the biggest lesson without any question at all. And
Speaker 1: this may resonate with you guys, but it's the deep truth.
Speaker 1: People do not change based on what they know. People
Speaker 1: change based on how they feel. If you get people
Speaker 1: to feel differently about an issue, they'll actually do it.
Speaker 1: It's true for working on sports and becoming a winning team.
Speaker 1: It's true for being a better heart surgeon. If I
Speaker 1: want to get a patient to act differently towards their body,
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I do not operate on smokers, really,
Speaker 1: and the reason I don't operate on people who smoke
Speaker 1: is because by one chance to get them to stop
Speaker 1: is before I take them to surgery. So I would say,
Speaker 1: I care about you too much to rush you into
Speaker 1: the o R. Look around the room with the people
Speaker 1: who brought you here. Those people love you. All I
Speaker 1: want you to do is love yourself as much as
Speaker 1: they love you. And when you appreciate that you're really
Speaker 1: that precious, that you're a you have a divine spark
Speaker 1: in you, and people love you and care about you,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't put that cigarette in your mouth out anymore.
Speaker 1: I've never once failed to get a patient to stop smoking.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they go back to smoke again. I recognize that
Speaker 1: failure rate, but I've never once failed to get a
Speaker 1: patient stopped smoking by using an approach similar to that.
Speaker 1: I found that so interesting though, as you said that
Speaker 1: your wife was actually responsible for you introducing what's her
Speaker 1: and Oprah's relationship. Well, Lisa was the one who went
Speaker 1: to open and said, my husband needs to have a
Speaker 1: presence in your program that people can relate to. So
Speaker 1: make him America's doctor call him. That literally put her
Speaker 1: on the band, the big monitor behind him, and and
Speaker 1: so people can begin to understand what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you actually have to tell people and show
Speaker 1: people and then reinforce the people what you're up to
Speaker 1: and what Opraush sought to do and she she's done
Speaker 1: it before and being after me as well is to
Speaker 1: get people that she trusted to be envoys ambassadors of
Speaker 1: whatever our specialty is, in my case obviously healthcare. And
Speaker 1: then she said, okay, I'll teach you basically it's Oprah University.
Speaker 1: I'll teach you oz how to talk to people about stuff.
Speaker 1: You have to bring interesting ideas and up your game
Speaker 1: so you can connect with people in a way that
Speaker 1: means something. And then working with her team and her
Speaker 1: hood was fantastic. By the way, the whole team at
Speaker 1: Oprah Show was just stellar individuals who understood the subtlety
Speaker 1: of how to make great programs. And then my wife
Speaker 1: was playing a role because she knew me better than
Speaker 1: anybody else. But she also knew health. Her father is
Speaker 1: a heart surgeon, was a pretty well known guy, and
Speaker 1: she had understood where the big gaps, the big connections
Speaker 1: were failing. And so all together we were pulling the
Speaker 1: oars as hard as we could and it got i
Speaker 1: mean so big, so fast, in part because there was
Speaker 1: this voracious appetite for health information, not the kind of
Speaker 1: health information you traditionally got, like, take better care of yourself,
Speaker 1: do the right things, I'll see you back in the
Speaker 1: office in a year. That doesn't mean anything to most people.
Speaker 1: If they were doing the right things, they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: in your office with blood pressure problems, high bood sugar
Speaker 1: or obesi. So a lot of the wisdom around health
Speaker 1: is creating automated lives, lives where you do the right thing,
Speaker 1: because it's easy to do the right thing, and that's
Speaker 1: a mistake that a lot of people make. And so
Speaker 1: if you change your life and make it easier to
Speaker 1: do the right thing by automating your food in the
Speaker 1: morning and figure out what lunch you love. In fact,
Speaker 1: forget about eating food that you think is good for you,
Speaker 1: eat food that tastes good that happens to be good
Speaker 1: for you, and you can stay on that diet program
Speaker 1: your whole existence. Those are the the the deeper realities
Speaker 1: to how you build a healthy lifestyle. Because healthy people,
Speaker 1: I'll say it differently, people overweight look at skinny people
Speaker 1: and think that they're lucky devils, right, And then people
Speaker 1: don't understand heavy people because they somehow never picked up
Speaker 1: those habits. And there's genetic roles and there are other
Speaker 1: issues as well, but primarily it's about lifestyle. That's why
Speaker 1: people are heavy. Then they have heavy pets as well,
Speaker 1: it's probably not genetic at that level. That's crazy. Dr Eys.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it got so crazy so fast in a
Speaker 1: good way with Oprah and her team, and I've seen
Speaker 1: how they've on a first hand basis work over there.
Speaker 1: How did you know this thing was bigger than you expected,
Speaker 1: or maybe did it get bigger than you expected when
Speaker 1: you started with her? It got bigger than I expected
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what it was gonna do. I
Speaker 1: was very naive to the process. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: telling moment. Oprah asked me, has it happened yet? And
Speaker 1: I said, as what happened yet? It says, you know,
Speaker 1: has it happened? I said, no, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I re talking about So when you're walking down the street,
Speaker 1: the people look over, recognize who you are, and then
Speaker 1: begin peppering you with questions, and yes, it had just
Speaker 1: started happening. And I realized at that point that the
Speaker 1: ability to speak to people in a very honest, authentic
Speaker 1: way allows you to become part of their family. That's
Speaker 1: what makes daytime television is so powerful to me. People
Speaker 1: have us on in the background. I was actually just
Speaker 1: you know, it got shopping before this interview, and I
Speaker 1: had a mask on, so people couldn't really tell who
Speaker 1: it was. I said something as soon as the woman
Speaker 1: heard my voice that the count as you knew who
Speaker 1: I was because they don't have to watch daytime television
Speaker 1: half the time. They're just listening to it, but you're
Speaker 1: part of the family, and so they respect that you're
Speaker 1: they're bringing them good information. Because by the way, if
Speaker 1: you didn't, they wouldn't invite you back. Right, You're not
Speaker 1: gonna bite your friend over and they're not bringing you
Speaker 1: worthy stuff. So Oprah's big message was respect the audience.
Speaker 1: Always remember that they're out there looking for things to
Speaker 1: help them, bring them stuff that works for that purpose.
Speaker 1: And if you do that, don't invite you back. Over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And it has been a
Speaker 1: wonderful for me, blessing because I know a lot of people,
Speaker 1: as they think about whether they can control their destiny,
Speaker 1: look back and say, yeah, I can't because I just
Speaker 1: heard it said on oz or Oprah or whoever show
Speaker 1: that they're watching that they trust because if I can
Speaker 1: give you confidence that you can change your future, then
Speaker 1: you'll lose the nihilism that holds you back. And that's
Speaker 1: the real epidemic that we're struggling with in America now
Speaker 1: is people have lost hope. People don't realize that they
Speaker 1: have agency to control their future, that if they're brave,
Speaker 1: they'll be rewarded. That's the big message and health is
Speaker 1: a good place to start because if you can change
Speaker 1: what's happening inside your body, you can change the world
Speaker 1: outside of it. And that's the deeper, fundamental reason why
Speaker 1: health matters. It's the first stepping stone to controlling all
Speaker 1: the things as you want to change in your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and with that comes great responsibility. So I imagine when
Speaker 1: people stop you on the regular but ask you for
Speaker 1: advice or ask you are they mostly asking you for
Speaker 1: help in a medical area or is it now because
Speaker 1: you do so many different things, what is that primary
Speaker 1: question that they're asking you? There has to be one. Well,
Speaker 1: the big question historically was I don't lose weight as
Speaker 1: in public. In private, if you're a you know, a
Speaker 1: place where they get you to themselves. They ask about
Speaker 1: sex because there's a sexual feminine America, and people don't
Speaker 1: realize that they're not alone. They don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Women always blame themselves when their men aren't performing.
Speaker 1: And I keep emphasizing most men who aren't performing or
Speaker 1: having a medical problem or a deeper emotional problem, help
Speaker 1: them with If the machinery works, they don't want to
Speaker 1: use it, So don't blame yourself. It's a problem, not
Speaker 1: a blame issue, not a shame issue. You know, get
Speaker 1: ahead of it. And those are the two things this
Speaker 1: past year. Obviously it's all COVID all the time, because
Speaker 1: there's so much confusion about the rapid fire hose worth
Speaker 1: of data coming into our mouth every day, and it's
Speaker 1: hard to process at all because most there's not enough
Speaker 1: wisdom for the average human being to be able to
Speaker 1: understand all these different moving parts. So a lot of
Speaker 1: what they asked me is break it down. What would
Speaker 1: you do if it was your family, which is how
Speaker 1: I try to do it on the show. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I do for my daughters, my wife, my parents,
Speaker 1: and if I do it for them, you don't at
Speaker 1: least think about that option. What was the rest of
Speaker 1: the medical community's reaction when you became who you are?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I imagine that there were some
Speaker 1: pundits or some people that looked at like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a sellout, or he's this or he's that because you
Speaker 1: became this household name. Did the medical community react positively
Speaker 1: or negatively to your success? Be honest, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. This mixed. You don't have to I
Speaker 1: don't have to be honest. You can read you can
Speaker 1: read people's comments. The the The big message that I
Speaker 1: was trying to deliver is a scary one. It's that
Speaker 1: you can become the old expert in your body and
Speaker 1: you've got to trust your instincts and push for what's yours.
Speaker 1: So if you're not getting the care you think you deserve,
Speaker 1: asked either that person again or ask somebody else. But
Speaker 1: don't take no for an answer. Recognize that there's lots
Speaker 1: of wisdom out there about health that we don't understand
Speaker 1: in the Western world because we haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 1: A lot of the subtle things, the whole remedies, alternative
Speaker 1: medical approaches, this stuff is. Some of it's who never
Speaker 1: gonna work. Some of it's gonna be effective and has
Speaker 1: already been improven effective. So you've got to navigate that
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you have to own your destiny.
Speaker 1: And that's a message that not every medical professional likes
Speaker 1: their patients to hear because it's frustrating. You get a second.
Speaker 1: Guess what I'm telling you. If aout my whole life
Speaker 1: learning this stuff, now you're coming in here and telling
Speaker 1: me that you know bioidentical hormones can help you deal
Speaker 1: with menopause? Who are you to say that? And I'll say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, there are lots of doctors who actually use
Speaker 1: biodetical hormones, for example, for menopause, and the women who
Speaker 1: take those hormones, well, you know, when they're well tested
Speaker 1: and appropriately managed, seemed to do really well, you should
Speaker 1: at least be able to talk about it. And that
Speaker 1: is unsettling. But I gotta say, most of my brethren
Speaker 1: are actually happy because I think I saved them time
Speaker 1: by educating people about the basics of lifestyle management so
Speaker 1: they can avoid chronic illnesses. It saves the need for
Speaker 1: every single doctor seeing every obese slash diabetic, slash hypertensive
Speaker 1: patient that need to have that conversation. But I gotta
Speaker 1: be clear on this. We're not winning this battle right now.
Speaker 1: The reason America got hit so hard by COVID we're
Speaker 1: a quarter of the world's deaths. The reason we got
Speaker 1: hit so hard is we're not, at our heart a
Speaker 1: healthy population. Most of the people, the overwhelming majority of people,
Speaker 1: are people who died had obesity, hypertension, or high blood sugar,
Speaker 1: or some chronic disease related to those and so we're
Speaker 1: not taking charge of our health. And when these types
Speaker 1: of inflammatory viruses hit us, they call those people from
Speaker 1: the herd, and we want to avoid that in the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mentioned the dependence. You have a lot of different
Speaker 1: chapters in the book of your life. A new one is,
Speaker 1: you know, hosting Jeopardy. I was very four in it
Speaker 1: to be close with Alex Trebeck and he was a
Speaker 1: very important person in my life. I was like devastated
Speaker 1: when he passed away, as we all were. You know,
Speaker 1: we welcomed him into our living room. I remember watching
Speaker 1: him with my grandpa growing up. Is how I became, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, infatuated with the individual that said they were
Speaker 1: very difficult shoes to fill. You're not going to fill them.
Speaker 1: You can only hope to, you know, do him the
Speaker 1: honor um with your position. How have you found that
Speaker 1: experience so far to be It was one of the
Speaker 1: most unique experiences of my life to be able to
Speaker 1: host Jeopardy and Alex Reco I was also close to
Speaker 1: and adored. Like you grew up watching him and respecting
Speaker 1: his remarkable talents as a broadcaster. I also respected his
Speaker 1: talents as a human being. I'll give you one story
Speaker 1: real quickly, and then I'll tell you about my personal
Speaker 1: experience there. The last time I was with him, we
Speaker 1: were backstage at Jeopardy and he we were in his
Speaker 1: dressing room, the one that I would ultimately use when
Speaker 1: I guest hosted the show for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and I was about to leave. He said, before you go,
Speaker 1: let me show you some and he walked me out
Speaker 1: down the hallway and there's this long corridor of just
Speaker 1: Emmy awards, all the enemy's they've had on Jeopardy. He
Speaker 1: walked right past those awards, didn't never slowed down. At
Speaker 1: the end of that corridor, there was a big glass
Speaker 1: case with all the notes, quilts, prayer rugs that have
Speaker 1: been sent to him from people wishing him the best.
Speaker 1: And he got very emotional as he began looking at
Speaker 1: the letters and reading some of the bits that he
Speaker 1: obviously looked at before, and realized that the really impact
Speaker 1: he'd had in America was to bring a little bit
Speaker 1: of light into our lives. He lifted a little bit
Speaker 1: of a burden for all of us, and that was
Speaker 1: the love he was getting back. That's the man Alcabec
Speaker 1: represented the culture that he left behind. The Jeopardy is unparalleled.
Speaker 1: Mike Richard's EP. All these guys are superstars and they
Speaker 1: do not cut corners. Every single thing has to be
Speaker 1: done perfectly, and it's not. You do it again, and
Speaker 1: then they put you through boot camp. Imagine this. I've
Speaker 1: been toasting shows. I mean it was a thousands of
Speaker 1: television shows. I mean a lot of time in front
Speaker 1: of a camera. No no, no, no, don't matter. I
Speaker 1: had to go to boot camp. I spied a weekend
Speaker 1: getting rehearsed by the writers who are brilliantly writing these
Speaker 1: questions being guests, and then pretending to mess me up
Speaker 1: like they'd asked the answer it wrong. They give me
Speaker 1: a complicated response that wasn't right. So I had to
Speaker 1: learn how to deal with those those seal problems. Because
Speaker 1: what Alex did so effortlessly that's really really hard to do,
Speaker 1: is he kept the game flowing and from a fire
Speaker 1: hose sixty one questions in twenty some minutes, you've got
Speaker 1: a ton of information. He's got to keep it going
Speaker 1: because if you slow it down, you give the other
Speaker 1: contestants unfair advantages of the ones one first a Jeopardy
Speaker 1: boot camp who knew well I want to know your reaction.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you work very closely with
Speaker 1: the heart. What was the blood pressure like? As you know,
Speaker 1: the lights went on and they were like three two.
Speaker 1: You know, it is just like playing sports. It's great.
Speaker 1: You've got a little bit of anxiety, but a good kind.
Speaker 1: Whenever I was getting ready to play, I always think,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get out there. I worked so hard,
Speaker 1: I earned this right just to be able to give
Speaker 1: it my best, and so I'm gonna I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: get out there. But anxiety as soon as you walk
Speaker 1: out there and you harness it a little bit like
Speaker 1: a puppy dog. You just started to sit up, settle in,
Speaker 1: and it just felt so good. And then you get
Speaker 1: in the zone and the contestants are so smart. My
Speaker 1: only fear the whole time was that I would mess
Speaker 1: up the contestants by saying something or doing something that
Speaker 1: wasn't right for them and throw them off their game.
Speaker 1: I wanted them all to have a fair chance to compete.
Speaker 1: But I I left those shows so impressed by how
Speaker 1: wise these people are at so many different kinds of
Speaker 1: you know, they've got, they've got they know they do
Speaker 1: the equivalent of weightlifting with their brains daily. But not
Speaker 1: everyone lifts the same weight. These guys lift heavyweights with
Speaker 1: their brains. Well, that's high praise coming from a doctor.
Speaker 1: Are you still practicing? Dr? Like? Can? Can somebody get it?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say it wrong. A cardio cardiothoractic
Speaker 1: appointment and what is that? And this I have seven
Speaker 1: thousand questions. My dad actually suffered a big time heart
Speaker 1: attack right before COVID. And so when you know reading
Speaker 1: all about you, what is that surgery? Dr? Oz So?
Speaker 1: My training is in heart surgery, so bypass operations, changing valves,
Speaker 1: doing heart transplants. I helped build the mechanical heart program
Speaker 1: at on my institution. My real claim to fame is
Speaker 1: I helped invent the devices to fix heart vouls from
Speaker 1: the groin without having to stop the heart, without having
Speaker 1: to open the chest. And I did that through much
Speaker 1: of my career. I love tinkering and I love fixing stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry about your dad, Thank you, But I
Speaker 1: tell you that the medical profession has gotten so proficient
Speaker 1: and managing heart disease because we got so much of
Speaker 1: it that hopefully he'll do well. Yeah. No, I was
Speaker 1: actually I mean not to get personal, but it was
Speaker 1: a question I had. You know, my dad was the
Speaker 1: last person when we got the phone call that night
Speaker 1: that we thought this was going to happen to vegetarian
Speaker 1: works out every single day, almost underweight. But what we
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on in our family was
Speaker 1: oh gosh, and now I'm blanking out. What is it?
Speaker 1: Coronary artery disease? We didn't know. And I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you too selfish questions and nothing about sex um.
Speaker 1: But my two questions are as a forty three year
Speaker 1: old and travel on the road all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: when should somebody whose dad just suffered a heart attack
Speaker 1: because of that? Is there anything I can do for myself?
Speaker 1: And then also with my dad being high risk now
Speaker 1: he's had the vaccine, like, is there anything the forty
Speaker 1: two year old daughters should be worried about with my father?
Speaker 1: Moving forward with all of this, well, this for you
Speaker 1: first preventive medicine. So generally speaking, if you're real, if
Speaker 1: you how old your dad. By the way, my dad
Speaker 1: is sixty seven, so any medical problem that happens before
Speaker 1: the age of sixty five and he's close mandates that
Speaker 1: you assume you have a genetic problem. Now, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you have it, and it doesn't mean that if
Speaker 1: you do lifestyle changes ahead of time, you can avoid it.
Speaker 1: But your dad's vegetarian underweight, so he's done most of
Speaker 1: the things correctly. I mean, I remember operating on a
Speaker 1: forty five year old Yogi once lackt of vegetarian not
Speaker 1: like they're just a vegetarian meditating underweight, and he said
Speaker 1: that he felt blessed because every male and his family
Speaker 1: had died a decade earlier than that. And so jeans,
Speaker 1: they you know, they're the cards you're dealt. So you
Speaker 1: have to be thoughtful about your heart history. Because you're
Speaker 1: a female with estrogen, you're protected. Males have testosterone poisoning,
Speaker 1: so we actually get hurt to seize about a decade
Speaker 1: earlier than women. But by the time you're in your
Speaker 1: late forties. Uh, you should be evaluated with either. Right,
Speaker 1: you can do a stress test, but I like to
Speaker 1: do a ultra fast CT just to take a quick
Speaker 1: peek at the arteries to see if there's any plaque
Speaker 1: on them. Okay, this is true for everyone. Want listening
Speaker 1: right now. If you can get an actual picture either
Speaker 1: a crowdo ultrasound or a picture of your heart. It
Speaker 1: tells you whether you're actually making plaque or not. If
Speaker 1: you're not making plaque, the numbers, the cholesterol values, that
Speaker 1: none of that matters then, because if we're using those
Speaker 1: blood tests to estimate your risk of making plaque, but
Speaker 1: we can actually look these days and see if you're
Speaker 1: making plaque. And so if you do that, they'll help
Speaker 1: God whether you need dical therapy or not, because I
Speaker 1: don't want to put you on pills before you need them.
Speaker 1: And if you have no plaque, who cares what your
Speaker 1: cholesterol is as long as you don't have anything else
Speaker 1: going on. With regard to your dad, the most important
Speaker 1: reality is the blood coursing through his vessels was corrosive.
Speaker 1: Something rusted his blood vessels. So no matter what he's eating,
Speaker 1: no matter how he's taking care of himself, he's got
Speaker 1: some genetic issues caused a problem. You've got the air
Speaker 1: and figure that out. And they're very sophisticated tests that
Speaker 1: are done now. They're not garden variety tests. But most
Speaker 1: sixty five year old vegetarians are underweight, don't have heart problems.
Speaker 1: So he's got something unique so you gotta will go
Speaker 1: one step further. There's a test called the Berkeley test,
Speaker 1: and there are others as well that look very carefully
Speaker 1: at these different kinds of cholesterol, and if he's got
Speaker 1: one of the more abnormal profiles, there are different medications
Speaker 1: we put them on. Here's the big secret about medicine
Speaker 1: that's not talked about much. The ailments that plagued us
Speaker 1: the most are the ones that all doctors learn a
Speaker 1: little bit about. But because we learned a little bit
Speaker 1: about them, we think we're world experts on them. So
Speaker 1: everyone's got a cholesterol value. We learned about it the
Speaker 1: first month of medical school and from then on we
Speaker 1: all think we're pretty good at it. But not all
Speaker 1: cholesterol experts are equally good. So find a world class
Speaker 1: cholesterol person to try to find out what went down
Speaker 1: with your dad's arteries, because there's someone who knows that
Speaker 1: answer that who's gonna be able to save his life
Speaker 1: because whatever solutions exist today that we put into his
Speaker 1: heart to get the blood flowing, because the fluid coursing
Speaker 1: through those man made graphs are not as good as
Speaker 1: what he was born with. Who rush those as well,
Speaker 1: So get ahead of it. He also blames the fact
Speaker 1: that the Packers haven't done anything in the off season
Speaker 1: as adding stress for him. So, you know, let's go
Speaker 1: green bag. You know, Dad, that's that's not quite true.
Speaker 1: Because Aaron Rodgers hosting Jeopardy right after me. They are
Speaker 1: doing something. Eron's been Aaron one when he was a
Speaker 1: contestant on Jeopardy. But Dr hoj, you are the world's
Speaker 1: most interesting man. Move over Doseki's because you know about
Speaker 1: a three or four defense. You know questions to UH
Speaker 1: and answers to Jeopardy. You can perform open heart surgery,
Speaker 1: and you know all about sex, which we had more
Speaker 1: time to talk about, which means we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have you on again. Yes, we can't thank you enough
Speaker 1: for your time, really truly, thank you so much. It's
Speaker 1: been a real blessing. You gotta take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: Come to a football game, Come be on the sidelines
Speaker 1: with me when you If you come to an Eagles
Speaker 1: or a Giants game, I'll be there. Done. I'd love
Speaker 1: to have you on. Thank you. By You're the best
Speaker 1: I could talk to him. He's a dream. Yeah, great guy.
Speaker 1: I would like to talk to him over some like
Speaker 1: he mentioned Oprah. I want to be with Oprah with alcohol.
Speaker 1: I want to sit down with Dr Oz with alcohol.
Speaker 1: I just want to what I'm saying, he is my
Speaker 1: last supper. Invite you know those questions that you did
Speaker 1: with like, oh, invite someone living or dead. I'll take
Speaker 1: him because the fact that he started out our conversation
Speaker 1: about how to keep a marriage alive, I mean, as
Speaker 1: someone who's on her second I'm all yours. And what
Speaker 1: he had to say, and the pheromones and the physics
Speaker 1: and the whole thing that came along with it, I
Speaker 1: definitely lee found him to be more impressive than I
Speaker 1: already thought he was. And what I love too is
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's continued to reinvent himself, even his family,
Speaker 1: his daughter's shows, like shows and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and and anybody that has sustained a marriage through the
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows of life. I always and all years
Speaker 1: for us. So I really enjoyed listening to him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I told my friends, Um, because we filmed that while
Speaker 1: we were in Montana. I told my friends about it,
Speaker 1: and they I said, every seven years, that's what he said,
Speaker 1: you should try to talk about it all. Reinvent everything,
Speaker 1: and my friends had been married for ten years, said, well,
Speaker 1: we're about three years too late. Bad for us. They
Speaker 1: have three kids. They're fine. But yeah, no, I I
Speaker 1: loved him. I thought he was phenomenal. He's reminded me
Speaker 1: of Dabo Sweeney, Clemson head coach. You just asked one
Speaker 1: question and you let him go. I mean, he just
Speaker 1: you don't even need to interview the guy. He's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I love that. And also too, when we talked to
Speaker 1: him about the medical field, which let's be honest, like
Speaker 1: put on the lab coat, let's be you know, science
Speaker 1: and mathematical and whatever, and for him to sort of
Speaker 1: go rogue on that and really which he credits his
Speaker 1: wife too, for that introduction to Oprah and going more
Speaker 1: mainstream that he knew maybe something and a little bit
Speaker 1: of some pundits came along with that, But ultimately, what
Speaker 1: he ends up doing is being accessible to that audience
Speaker 1: that's at home that doesn't maybe have the money to
Speaker 1: go to a specialist or or have the access to
Speaker 1: the medicals and not everyone again, of course has insurance
Speaker 1: and can go to a doctor. So I think what
Speaker 1: he's able to do, you know, just being in our
Speaker 1: living rooms on a television is far superior to anything else.
Speaker 1: So I really enjoyed listening to him and definitely could
Speaker 1: talk to him for a long time about all of
Speaker 1: his advice on things. He's a disrupter. People don't like
Speaker 1: it in your field when he kind of shake it
Speaker 1: up and do things a little different. What did you
Speaker 1: take away from the things that he said to you
Speaker 1: about Steve? Oh? Yeah, I think now, just for me,
Speaker 1: it's like the tests I need to get to make
Speaker 1: sure coronary artery disease isn't something that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be dealing with twenty years down the line, but it
Speaker 1: sounds like I will because you know it's hereditary and
Speaker 1: we didn't know that about my father. It's it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something that weighs on my mind. I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask him even more in terms of like corona, my
Speaker 1: dad being high risk and you know he's vaccinated, but
Speaker 1: are we good? But I'm sure that's listen. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're going to talk to him down the road.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, he mentioned the tests I should
Speaker 1: be taking. He mentioned the questions I should be asking
Speaker 1: of my dad's doctors, and I loved it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I had. I guess I had no idea. He worked
Speaker 1: transplants and all that. I love that. Are you good
Speaker 1: about going to a doctor on the regular? Got really
Speaker 1: good about going to the Oh you are, yes, my mom?
Speaker 1: And still that. That's how I found out I had
Speaker 1: cervical cancer. I am. I always go to the dentist
Speaker 1: every six months. I always go to the gynecologist every
Speaker 1: single year. I stay on top of ship. And that's
Speaker 1: why when I was diagnosed with cancer, we were like,
Speaker 1: there's no way. I was just here a year ago,
Speaker 1: Like how could this happen? And then when I came
Speaker 1: out public and I said, you know, I had this
Speaker 1: and I found it from a routine exam, I was
Speaker 1: blown away with how many women said to me, I
Speaker 1: haven't been to the doctor in three to four years.
Speaker 1: I need to go for my annual. I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you fucking crazy? Like this is how I found out
Speaker 1: I had it. Well, that's not good. You need to go.
Speaker 1: You have got to go. So so I I go
Speaker 1: to the dentist every six months. I go to my
Speaker 1: my guy in college is set me up for my
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend. That's weird. That's a different podcast. I am
Speaker 1: routine about that, but I would, you know, when you
Speaker 1: fill out like who's your general practitioner doctor or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't have one. Like I go to my guy
Speaker 1: in college, and so I'm like, I've got this pain
Speaker 1: in my foot, Like he's like my all encompassing doctor,
Speaker 1: which is late, but I should do a better job,
Speaker 1: and and obviously, being as close as we are, I
Speaker 1: should definitely like, you know, take that into consideration, like
Speaker 1: I need to just go and get because I am
Speaker 1: under that like umbrella for a lot of people that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't feel something, So I'm not gonna checked out.
Speaker 1: So I will make a concerted effort to do that
Speaker 1: because it is important, and I think there is a
Speaker 1: little bit of fear in me that's oh if I
Speaker 1: don't know, then I won't worry about it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the worst worst things that I have to make every
Speaker 1: six months is to you know this, I text you
Speaker 1: all the time to the cancer center. I freaking hate
Speaker 1: it my oncologists. It's very attractive. I love him so
Speaker 1: very much, but I think that's how how we have
Speaker 1: to meet every six months. I actually need to check
Speaker 1: to see when my next six month appointment is. He's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's the worst. A couple of months ago, I think,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but it's awful. It's terrible to go to
Speaker 1: the doctor, but you gotta go because again, like my dad,
Speaker 1: nothing was wrong with him and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden this, you know, huge events. So I just gotta
Speaker 1: go get that, get the old blood pressure checked out,
Speaker 1: the vitals. Well. I love you, thank for being open
Speaker 1: and honest about that, because it's important for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And I again and I will yield your
Speaker 1: own advice that even though I go to attention to
Speaker 1: my kind of gog, I need to get a check
Speaker 1: up all things. So for those of you listening or watching,
Speaker 1: let's all make an effort to check up and check
Speaker 1: in often. And uh look at it as a great
Speaker 1: luxury that we have to be able to have somebody
Speaker 1: bring awareness to something that we might not have known
Speaker 1: that will be preventative in the future. So big thing,
Speaker 1: especially right now with COVID. A lot of people put
Speaker 1: their health off because they didn't want to go into
Speaker 1: the doctors. I just went to the dentists and this
Speaker 1: girl's like, I haven't been here in three years. I
Speaker 1: was like Jesus, like, I better have less scraping in
Speaker 1: the old mouth and this broad you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So yes, go to the doctor, wear a mask, go
Speaker 1: to the doctor. Go to the doctor. Doctor Oz, thank
Speaker 1: you for your time and energy and uh for those
Speaker 1: of you that enjoyed that segment with him and want
Speaker 1: to hear more from Dr Oz, make sure that you
Speaker 1: d m us on our Calm Down podcast. Ask all
Speaker 1: the questions you want to ask us. He's incredible and
Speaker 1: incredible resource and we're lucky to have him, so hopefully
Speaker 1: we can have him all with more questions. We will
Speaker 1: be able to tap into his very limited time. And
Speaker 1: thank you guys again for listening. I will now schedule
Speaker 1: all appointments. This has been calmed down podcast. I will
Speaker 1: calm down with my tentativeness to go to the doctor. Um, Aaron,
Speaker 1: love you, love you, See you next week. Care. Calm
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