WEBVTT - It Just Doesn't Matter! 0:00:01.540 --> 0:00:05.390 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the 0:00:05.430 --> 0:00:07.430 George Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:07.470 --> 0:00:09.690 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:09.850 --> 0:00:11.170 Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:11.390 --> 0:00:25.550 And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Chinese are extremely sensitive 0:00:26.110 --> 0:00:30.150 about these nuances in diplomacy. They've been at it for 0:00:30.150 --> 0:00:33.729 4,000 years. The Chinese, when they get upset, can do 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.560 things like take over an island here or there or 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.400 tear up an agreement or start threatening or do other 0:00:40.460 --> 0:00:42.760 things that could cause a crisis. 0:00:43.940 --> 0:00:48.599 So that's interesting. That's Charles Krauthammer, the late Charles Krauthammer, 0:00:48.659 --> 0:00:52.240 who we were big fans of back in the day, 2016. 0:00:52.830 --> 0:00:57.590 When I suppose who was Trump got elected in 16. 0:00:57.590 --> 0:01:03.100 So it was at the end of Obama. Anyway, Chinese 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.100 care about these little tiny snubs and that sort of stuff. 0:01:07.140 --> 0:01:08.920 So you have to be very, very careful with the 0:01:09.980 --> 0:01:13.980 diplomacy and the showing up at the airport like Trump 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.819 did last night in the red carpet and having the 0:01:15.860 --> 0:01:18.280 right fork in the right place and all that sort 0:01:18.310 --> 0:01:22.920 of stuff, I guess. Whatever. Get over yourselves, is what 0:01:22.940 --> 0:01:26.399 I would say. So, President Xi is in Washington, D.C., 0:01:26.980 --> 0:01:29.360 and they're having their big dinner tonight. And let's get 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.740 a report from Lucas Tomlinson of Fox with what's going on. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.339 The relationship between the United States and China will define 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:38.160 the 21st century. 0:01:38.260 --> 0:01:41.899 Not everyone is thrilled about Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.680 to the White House after reports surfaced that China was 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.380 supplying satellite imagery to help Iran kill American troops in 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.080 recent months. 0:01:49.620 --> 0:01:50.390 Among the critics. 0:01:50.780 --> 0:01:53.310 the Senate Armed Services Committee's top Republican. 0:01:53.690 --> 0:01:58.130 I would have suggested the president not invite Xi Jinping 0:01:58.170 --> 0:02:01.790 to Washington for such a lavish welcome. 0:02:02.070 --> 0:02:04.950 Secretary Rubio reacting to that suggestion today. 0:02:05.090 --> 0:02:07.830 This is the second largest economy in the world and 0:02:07.850 --> 0:02:11.160 a pretty substantial military that's undergoing the most rapid military 0:02:11.190 --> 0:02:12.500 buildup probably in history. 0:02:12.850 --> 0:02:14.940 So I thought that interesting back and forth over the 0:02:14.980 --> 0:02:19.130 last couple of days. was worth noting. I mean, the 0:02:19.270 --> 0:02:22.880 chair of the armed services committee is no, uh, is 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.600 not a nobody. And him thinking is a bad idea 0:02:25.620 --> 0:02:29.260 to have G come. Now I saw, uh, whoa, who's 0:02:29.300 --> 0:02:32.180 that democratic Senator who pretended he was a Vietnam war 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.720 hero and turned out not to be Blumenthal. I can't 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.329 believe that he still gets to be a Senator and 0:02:37.650 --> 0:02:40.750 discuss military matters is a guy who claimed to be 0:02:40.770 --> 0:02:45.390 a big time Vietnam war vet with all these honors 0:02:45.410 --> 0:02:47.510 and everything like that. And he didn't, go at all. 0:02:47.610 --> 0:02:50.850 It just shows you the way politics are. Anyway, I 0:02:50.910 --> 0:02:54.380 couldn't tell if Blumenthal, if this was just partisan, anything 0:02:54.460 --> 0:02:57.880 Trump does is wrong, or if he actually thought we 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.880 shouldn't invite President Xi. I don't know, and I don't 0:03:00.940 --> 0:03:03.000 actually know what is the right answer on this. It 0:03:03.060 --> 0:03:07.620 is pretty weird. President Xi is financing Iran. We're at 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:12.940 war with Iran. President Xi is daily attacking us. We've 0:03:13.020 --> 0:03:15.419 talked about this for years. The FBI opens up, what, 0:03:15.460 --> 0:03:19.669 like 100 new investigations into Chinese hacks per day or 0:03:19.710 --> 0:03:23.250 something like that? And we get together and have dinner 0:03:23.270 --> 0:03:24.810 and smile at each other and act like we're friends. 0:03:24.870 --> 0:03:27.590 I don't know what the point of all that is. Anyway, 0:03:27.889 --> 0:03:28.620 the report rolls on. 0:03:29.190 --> 0:03:32.630 Talks on trade and artificial intelligence are expected to dominate 0:03:32.650 --> 0:03:35.890 the summit in Washington, the leader's first meeting since Xi 0:03:35.970 --> 0:03:39.650 hosted Trump in Beijing in May. President Trump mentioned China 0:03:39.730 --> 0:03:42.910 only one time in his UN address, vowing the US 0:03:43.170 --> 0:03:44.630 must win the AI race. 0:03:44.780 --> 0:03:48.000 I'm not going to stifle growth of something that will. 0:03:47.860 --> 0:03:50.640 Be bigger than the Industrial Revolution, and we will be 0:03:50.700 --> 0:03:51.480 very careful. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.360 After Trump called on Putin to end his war on 0:03:54.460 --> 0:03:58.600 Ukraine at the UN, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thinks she 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.120 can help make that happen. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.500 He is someone who can influence Russia too, more than 0:04:04.820 --> 0:04:07.820 many others can. Yeah, I'm not optimistic about that either. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:14.120 I'm really stuck on this whole UN speeches, fancy meals 0:04:14.300 --> 0:04:18.500 is really close to worthless. The amount of coverage it gets... 0:04:20.110 --> 0:04:23.500 as a ratio to how important it is, is way 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.040 out of, I mean, every television bank I'm looking at 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.289 right now has got some picture of Trump and she, 0:04:29.330 --> 0:04:31.849 and coming on the plane and talking about the speeches 0:04:31.870 --> 0:04:33.980 from yesterday. And I just, I just don't think it 0:04:34.020 --> 0:04:38.190 means anything. Maybe I'm naive, but show me the results 0:04:38.230 --> 0:04:41.370 of previous stuff. A week from now, tell me what 0:04:41.650 --> 0:04:44.909 from these speeches at the UN or this meal we'll 0:04:44.950 --> 0:04:49.270 be talking about as a still ongoing result of this. 0:04:49.790 --> 0:04:54.430 Anything at all? I'm beyond skeptical. I want to hear 0:04:54.470 --> 0:04:57.930 how CBS approached this. Give me 44. This is Nancy Cordes. 0:04:58.330 --> 0:05:02.130 The US and China are at odds over AI, trade, 0:05:02.270 --> 0:05:04.240 and most importantly, Iran. 0:05:04.890 --> 0:05:09.260 Trump, stop fawning over strongmen. Stop calling Xi. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:09.919 A great gentleman. 0:05:10.460 --> 0:05:14.280 Lawmakers from both sides urged Trump to dial back the 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.100 warm welcome. 0:05:15.430 --> 0:05:20.030 His guest is a brutal, unelected, and oppressive dictator. 0:05:21.150 --> 0:05:25.150 OK, so that from Schumer. Now, that was just partisan politics. 0:05:26.100 --> 0:05:30.220 Barack Obama welcomed President Xi also. And at that time, 0:05:30.260 --> 0:05:33.640 we we already knew President Xi was an evil communist 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.240 dictator who had slaves and was hacking into everything he 0:05:37.260 --> 0:05:39.060 could hack in and stealing our technology and all the 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.380 bad things he was doing back then. And he welcomed him. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.320 So let's God, I wish we didn't have to play 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:48.370 these partisan games all the time. Something a little more concrete, 0:05:48.510 --> 0:05:52.500 Scott Bessent, he is the Secretary of the Treasury, was 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:57.420 interviewed yesterday talking about how many meetings they might have. 0:05:58.140 --> 0:06:00.780 This is our second in-person meeting. There's a chance they 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.420 may have a historic four meetings this year, four meetings 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.560 between the most powerful country in the world and the 0:06:08.620 --> 0:06:10.349 second largest economy in the world. 0:06:10.370 --> 0:06:15.070 A visit in Beijing, this visit, a visit to Shenzhen. 0:06:16.220 --> 0:06:19.680 They have for a conference in November and then President 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.990 Xi coming for the G20 in Doral. 0:06:22.950 --> 0:06:29.070 By the way, that G20 meeting in Florida, Trump invited 0:06:29.150 --> 0:06:34.070 Vladimir Putin to that. Now, that one I definitely don't 0:06:34.130 --> 0:06:36.659 think is cool that you have Putin come to the 0:06:36.700 --> 0:06:40.590 United States and eat dinner there. with you and treated 0:06:40.650 --> 0:06:43.610 like an equal on the world stage, like a, like 0:06:43.810 --> 0:06:46.980 any sort of normal actor on the world stage. That 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.280 is just completely out of bounds. I don't know if 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.979 Trump just invited him knowing he won't come or the 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.480 security would not allow it to come or for all 0:06:55.500 --> 0:06:58.080 the different reasons that it shouldn't happen. It won't happen. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.580 And so he just invited him for, I don't know 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.390 the way Trump works people, but the idea of Vladimir 0:07:04.430 --> 0:07:08.430 Putin having dinner at the golf club in Florida and 0:07:08.870 --> 0:07:16.270 while he's bombing children's hospitals in Ukraine. That's just appalling. Anyway, 0:07:16.290 --> 0:07:21.010 this is the News Nation take on the whole AI 0:07:21.170 --> 0:07:24.000 angle on the summit between Trump and Xi today. 0:07:24.530 --> 0:07:26.830 Say the AI race is one of their top priorities 0:07:26.870 --> 0:07:30.830 for this US-China relationship. Do you think this should be 0:07:30.850 --> 0:07:34.210 a focus headed into today, just taking that into consideration? 0:07:34.570 --> 0:07:36.470 Whether or not it should be a focus, it simply 0:07:36.610 --> 0:07:40.950 is a focus. Americans may not associate it directly with 0:07:40.970 --> 0:07:43.530 the China relationship, but of course, it affects all of 0:07:43.610 --> 0:07:45.540 our lives. I have a colleague who likes to say, 0:07:45.630 --> 0:07:48.040 it's like electricity. You don't think about it, but it's 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.600 part of absolutely everything. So of course, it's going into 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.340 this summit, it's going into our daily lives. 0:07:53.860 --> 0:07:58.080 Yeah, I'm not optimistic that China has any interest in 0:07:58.140 --> 0:08:00.120 playing ball on this whole AI thing. I was going 0:08:00.140 --> 0:08:01.660 to throw out a question to those of you... I 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.760 got two questions. So, executive producer Hanson came up with 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:13.110 a good idea today. We need an AI Tim Beloyer. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.070 If you've been fans of this show for years... we 0:08:17.130 --> 0:08:19.150 used to talk about legal stuff and this guy named 0:08:19.210 --> 0:08:21.090 Tim who happened to be a lawyer would call into 0:08:21.110 --> 0:08:23.370 the show and say, Hey, good point about this, or 0:08:23.410 --> 0:08:25.740 you're wrong about this, or here's something you might want 0:08:25.770 --> 0:08:28.040 to know about this thing you were talking about. And 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.900 over time, Tim became a regular guest and they know 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.760 he's fabulously successful and writes books that get national attention 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.359 and all that sort of stuff. But we'd love to 0:08:36.420 --> 0:08:38.800 have an AI, Tim, the lawyer we know because we're 0:08:38.980 --> 0:08:41.760 on in Silicon Valley, we've been on in San Francisco 0:08:41.780 --> 0:08:48.380 for 23 years now. Wow. Um, And all over the 0:08:48.420 --> 0:08:51.560 Bay Area, all over California, around the country. If you 0:08:52.059 --> 0:08:58.120 are some sort of expert around AI and you would 0:08:58.140 --> 0:09:00.699 like to either email us or call in on a 0:09:00.750 --> 0:09:02.390 regular basis or we could just have you as a 0:09:02.420 --> 0:09:05.170 guest whenever we need to, that would be fantastic. And 0:09:05.190 --> 0:09:09.089 here's one of the questions I would ask. People keep 0:09:09.130 --> 0:09:12.670 portraying this race that we've got going on between us 0:09:12.730 --> 0:09:15.890 and China. Well, we can't slow down on AI or 0:09:16.030 --> 0:09:19.150 China will win the race. They'll get ahead of us. 0:09:19.650 --> 0:09:22.570 I've heard multiple reports that China is basically six months 0:09:22.610 --> 0:09:27.880 behind us. Does that framework work? Does that make any sense? 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.140 Is there a getting to the end, like getting there, 0:09:33.940 --> 0:09:39.309 that will give us an advantage of any consequence over... China, 0:09:39.429 --> 0:09:42.569 if they get there, whatever there means, if they get 0:09:42.610 --> 0:09:46.250 there six months later, I'm thinking of the whole nuclear race. Now, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.740 it was important for us getting nuclear weapons before Hitler did. Very, 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.179 very important for obvious reasons to end World War Two 0:09:53.220 --> 0:09:56.570 or before Japan wasn't really working on a nuclear weapon 0:09:56.590 --> 0:10:01.240 or anywhere close. But Germany was and. the Soviet Union 0:10:01.260 --> 0:10:03.439 got one quickly. But, well, I guess that's part of 0:10:03.460 --> 0:10:08.680 my point. So we get there to AGI, Artificial General Intelligence, 0:10:08.740 --> 0:10:11.720 where computers are programming themselves and everything like that. If 0:10:11.780 --> 0:10:15.710 China gets there six months later, have we done anything, 0:10:15.730 --> 0:10:19.990 won anything? Is that part of the whole thing? Conversation 0:10:20.030 --> 0:10:22.510 is important as it's portrayed all the time. We need 0:10:22.530 --> 0:10:26.079 to stay ahead of China. Or what happens would be 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.000 the question I'd ask to whatever AI expert we have 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:34.880 out there. You can text us 415-295-KFTC or email or, 0:10:34.910 --> 0:10:37.170 you know, we'll set up a phone call. Love to 0:10:37.210 --> 0:10:41.370 talk to you about that. Need to talk to you 0:10:41.390 --> 0:10:45.420 about this. A couple of years ago, I had reason 0:10:45.460 --> 0:10:47.880 to do a little research on somebody and I had 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.380 their phone number. And I thought, I wonder what I 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.800 can find out about somebody based on their phone number. 0:10:53.179 --> 0:10:55.660 I had no idea this. I was shocked. I mean, 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.120 I'm naive. I didn't know there are all these websites 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.900 where you can pay like five dollars a month and 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.020 you put in somebody's phone number and you get all 0:11:03.059 --> 0:11:05.540 this information. And there are tons of websites like that. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:06.860 Um. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.400 We got this story. Authorities say a Kentucky officer ran 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.620 the same two license plates 2,000 times. They belong to 0:11:14.660 --> 0:11:17.630 the mother of his child. She had an order of 0:11:17.670 --> 0:11:20.150 protection against him. He didn't hack anything. He just typed 0:11:20.190 --> 0:11:24.130 in the plate. One of 120,000 cameras. The Washington Post 0:11:24.170 --> 0:11:27.120 found at least 50 more. Most were watching women. So 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.439 here is what is happening. You've got logs of your 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.740 license plate and your locations and everything out there. You've 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.400 got all the information that you can get from a 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.550 phone number that I mentioned. It's all out there. They're 0:11:39.590 --> 0:11:43.210 data brokers. They sell this stuff, home addresses, phone numbers, relatives, 0:11:43.690 --> 0:11:48.110 everywhere you've lived. Your habits, you don't want that stuff 0:11:48.170 --> 0:11:50.270 out there for all kinds of safety reasons, all kinds 0:11:50.309 --> 0:11:53.610 of marketing reasons. That's why we use Incogni, I use Incogni. 0:11:53.630 --> 0:11:56.410 It sends removal requests to more than 420 data broker 0:11:56.690 --> 0:11:59.089 and people search sites, then follows up so that you 0:11:59.190 --> 0:12:04.060 don't get relisted. Go to incogni.com slash Armstrong to get 60% off. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.179 That's incogni.com slash Armstrong. They can't harm you if they 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.340 can't find you. I'm a big fan of that. As 0:12:09.380 --> 0:12:11.660 we move into this weird world where all your information 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.900 is floating around there on the web, and pretty soon AI, 0:12:14.100 --> 0:12:15.500 you'll be able to tell, I bet I could do 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.900 this right now. Hey, AI, here's a phone number. Tell 0:12:18.940 --> 0:12:21.040 me everything you can about this person and then do that. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.679 Does AI go out there and scrub all those websites 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.510 and try to get all the information? Horrifying. So Heather Myers, 0:12:29.650 --> 0:12:32.069 who's filling in for Katie Green doing news today, told 0:12:32.110 --> 0:12:34.150 us a story that she's been following a little bit 0:12:34.230 --> 0:12:36.790 earlier about, for the first time ever, a high school 0:12:36.809 --> 0:12:39.770 degree isn't really worth that much less than a college degree. 0:12:39.790 --> 0:12:41.420 We're going to get the details on that coming up. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.160 That's a big story. Stay tuned. 0:12:44.540 --> 0:12:50.559 Armstrong and Getty. 0:12:50.580 --> 0:12:52.940 We did get a text about that Lizzie Borden series 0:12:53.020 --> 0:12:56.590 on Netflix. They said it's really good, but very graphic, 0:12:56.650 --> 0:13:00.300 so beware. Okay, so. If you're the sort of person 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.570 that wants to see a hatcheting, maybe don't watch that. 0:13:03.870 --> 0:13:06.130 Heather Myers is nice enough to fill in for Katie 0:13:06.170 --> 0:13:08.189 Green for a couple of days while Katie is doing 0:13:08.250 --> 0:13:13.310 her anniversary trip. Heather is a longtime TV host and 0:13:13.390 --> 0:13:15.910 a correspondent for Newsmax right now. And what is the 0:13:15.929 --> 0:13:17.870 story you covered the other day that caught my attention? 0:13:18.530 --> 0:13:21.540 This caught my attention too, Jack, because I have a 0:13:21.580 --> 0:13:22.600 high school-aged son. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:23.719 I believe you do too. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.360 So for decades, young Americans have been told that that 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.420 four-year college degree is the immediate ticket to a good job. 0:13:31.940 --> 0:13:34.319 But there's brand new data coming out about our labor 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.760 market that shows that those with a recent college degree, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.260 so a recent college grad, I'm talking between the ages 0:13:40.300 --> 0:13:44.040 of 22 and 26, are having one of the toughest 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:48.690 times ever finding a job. At the same time, those 0:13:48.870 --> 0:13:52.550 without a bachelor's degree and maybe with just a high 0:13:52.590 --> 0:13:55.589 school diploma or partial college education are having one of 0:13:55.630 --> 0:13:58.830 the best job markets that they've experienced in the past 0:13:58.830 --> 0:13:59.449 20 years. 0:14:00.450 --> 0:14:03.790 I knew this was coming. Whenever I would talk about 0:14:03.830 --> 0:14:05.730 the fact like I'm not pushing my kids to go 0:14:05.750 --> 0:14:07.530 to college, I have one that probably won't, one that 0:14:07.550 --> 0:14:10.939 probably will, but I'm definitely not pushing it. Whenever I 0:14:10.980 --> 0:14:13.620 have mentioned that, people have said to me, well, statistically, 0:14:13.700 --> 0:14:16.100 over time, people who graduate college make this much more money. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.780 That has been true always. I don't believe it's going 0:14:18.820 --> 0:14:22.500 to be true anymore. I knew at some point the 0:14:22.540 --> 0:14:25.160 data would catch up to that, and I'm sure that's 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.260 roughly starting now and going forward. There's all kinds of 0:14:28.350 --> 0:14:30.650 reasons for that. I've got a thing from a college 0:14:30.690 --> 0:14:32.230 professor I'm going to read a little bit later in 0:14:32.270 --> 0:14:35.530 the show. Him talking about current students who know nothing, 0:14:35.990 --> 0:14:39.470 learn nothing, come out of college no more qualified than 0:14:39.510 --> 0:14:42.110 when they went in, only poorer. And then you've got 0:14:42.150 --> 0:14:44.490 the whole thing. If I bring on a college graduate, 0:14:44.730 --> 0:14:49.410 what crazy crap do they believe about the employer-employee relationship 0:14:49.830 --> 0:14:53.870 and suing me for this and that? Yeah, who wants that? 0:14:55.190 --> 0:14:57.540 Right, and so this is interesting because the study touched 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.800 on exactly what you just mentioned. A few of the 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.660 other reasons of why we're seeing this trend is that 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:08.710 AI has largely taken over entry-level white-collar jobs. So those 0:15:08.750 --> 0:15:11.230 recent college grads are coming out, and usually you'd start 0:15:11.250 --> 0:15:13.470 kind of at the bottom of the ladder job. Those 0:15:13.510 --> 0:15:15.770 are now being done by AI for a lot of 0:15:15.810 --> 0:15:16.390 these companies. 0:15:16.430 --> 0:15:19.110 Those weren't jobs you needed a college degree for anyway. 0:15:19.130 --> 0:15:19.270 Right. 0:15:19.590 --> 0:15:22.920 They're hiring college graduates to do college graduates are doing 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.340 them because it was all I could find. But that's 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.540 not no, that's not what got them the job. 0:15:27.300 --> 0:15:27.560 Right. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.180 Another reason, simple supply and demand. So older workers in 0:15:31.260 --> 0:15:33.920 skilled trades are starting to retire. So that's creating demand 0:15:33.950 --> 0:15:37.550 for people who can do jobs that require hands-on skills. 0:15:37.610 --> 0:15:41.170 I'm talking about your air conditioning repair person, your plumber, 0:15:41.210 --> 0:15:42.130 your electrician. 0:15:42.490 --> 0:15:44.090 Those trade jobs are still. 0:15:44.470 --> 0:15:45.990 You know, they need to fill a lot of spots 0:15:46.050 --> 0:15:46.410 in those. 0:15:47.580 --> 0:15:49.100 There was something else here. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:49.700 Oh, okay. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.880 So You know when you're talking about something in front 0:15:51.900 --> 0:15:54.160 of your phone and then sooner than later you get 0:15:54.180 --> 0:15:56.100 a video about this exact topic? 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.280 Right, we were discussing this just the other day, yeah. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.960 Yeah, so I'm talking about this subject matter with my 0:16:02.020 --> 0:16:03.780 husband and all of a sudden I get this video 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.600 for a company called Degree Free. And basically what this 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.380 woman and I believe her husband have done is they 0:16:10.420 --> 0:16:14.530 have figured out how to reverse engineer your way into 0:16:14.570 --> 0:16:17.370 the career that you want to go into without getting 0:16:17.410 --> 0:16:21.530 a college degree. So I interviewed her for the same story. 0:16:21.650 --> 0:16:25.790 And she basically said that the most important thing that 0:16:25.850 --> 0:16:29.530 employers are looking for is no longer a bachelor's degree. 0:16:29.630 --> 0:16:31.040 It's work experience. 0:16:31.540 --> 0:16:34.080 So if you don't have any work experience, and it 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.920 could be something as like being a high school waiter 0:16:36.940 --> 0:16:39.220 or waitress at a restaurant or a lifeguard, any of 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.380 those kinds of jobs, employers want that more than anything 0:16:43.450 --> 0:16:44.070 else right now. 0:16:44.990 --> 0:16:50.140 That doesn't surprise me a bit. Uh, It's very easy 0:16:50.220 --> 0:16:53.570 for a lot of young people now to, and part 0:16:53.590 --> 0:16:55.550 of it is we've crafted a society where it's very 0:16:55.570 --> 0:16:57.370 hard to get a job as a teenager now. There's 0:16:57.390 --> 0:16:59.410 all kinds of things that I did that you're not 0:16:59.430 --> 0:17:02.390 allowed to do anymore and Anyway, so you could graduate 0:17:02.430 --> 0:17:05.909 from college with a worthless degree. You're out there. You're 22, 0:17:05.910 --> 0:17:09.270 23 years old. You've never worked a day in your life. 0:17:09.670 --> 0:17:12.560 You've never had a boss. You've never been given a 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.540 task that you had to perform or anything ever. Yeah, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.140 there's a big difference between that person and you hire 0:17:18.180 --> 0:17:19.830 somebody who's had a couple of jobs. And who cares 0:17:19.850 --> 0:17:21.970 about the degree? Because we all know in most cases. 0:17:22.740 --> 0:17:24.940 They're worthless. Yeah. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:25.859 So that was her point. 0:17:25.940 --> 0:17:28.840 She said that for a lot of these employers, these 0:17:28.940 --> 0:17:31.939 recent college grads are coming in with zero work experience 0:17:32.290 --> 0:17:34.659 and then asking for a salary similar to what the 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.940 owner of the company is bringing home every week. 0:17:37.140 --> 0:17:38.810 And it's not the kid's fault. I don't want to 0:17:38.830 --> 0:17:41.730 make it sound like that. It's horrible that we sold 0:17:41.790 --> 0:17:44.950 this line of crap to college kids and parents about 0:17:44.990 --> 0:17:48.409 this for years. All these different kind of gender study 0:17:48.450 --> 0:17:50.570 degrees and everything like that that aren't going to do 0:17:50.970 --> 0:17:53.390 anything for you. Oh, that's horrible. 0:17:53.410 --> 0:17:56.050 Expensive piece of paper. And they have all this debt. 0:17:56.490 --> 0:17:57.949 And then they have to go back and get the 0:17:57.990 --> 0:18:00.490 waiter waitressing job or that entry level job that they 0:18:00.510 --> 0:18:01.790 could have gotten at 18. 0:18:01.790 --> 0:18:02.030 Right. 0:18:02.970 --> 0:18:05.810 Thanks for that story, Heather. Really appreciate that. We'll talk 0:18:05.830 --> 0:18:09.520 to you a little bit later. That is not surprising. 0:18:09.580 --> 0:18:12.080 The data has caught up to what we all thought 0:18:12.100 --> 0:18:14.580 was going to happen anyway. Stay tuned for more. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.020 Armstrong and Getty. 0:18:17.850 --> 0:18:20.190 I'm going to continue this conversation we were just having 0:18:20.210 --> 0:18:22.840 with Gary Dietrich, who joins the Armstrong and Getty Show 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.659 right now. CBS television and iHeartRadio political analyst Gary Dietrich. 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:27.340 How are you today, Gary? 0:18:28.140 --> 0:18:29.060 Hey, I'm doing great, Jack. 0:18:29.100 --> 0:18:31.980 And by the way, I just heard a rumor recently 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.040 that you've been taking some flack for cream in your coffee, buddy. 0:18:35.060 --> 0:18:37.179 But I want you to know, I want you to know. 0:18:37.300 --> 0:18:42.200 Dairy farmers nationwide, 110% behind the little teaspoon or two 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.959 that you use every day. So don't push back on. 0:18:45.940 --> 0:18:46.790 That, Jack. Come on. 0:18:48.410 --> 0:18:48.630 Right. 0:18:48.910 --> 0:18:50.640 I feel less of a man because I put cream 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.340 in my coffee. So we're just having this conversation about 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.970 and then we'll get into politics. But we're just having 0:18:55.990 --> 0:18:58.390 this conversation about for the first time ever, the job 0:18:58.430 --> 0:19:02.460 market is a better. for young people with a high 0:19:02.500 --> 0:19:05.420 school degree than with a college degree for a variety 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.960 of reasons, including the whole everybody's caught on to the 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.700 fact that a lot of these college degrees, you didn't 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:16.140 learn a single thing. And maybe what you learned was 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.960 to be in a pain in the ass employee who's 0:19:17.980 --> 0:19:20.780 going to sue me over something crazy. But anyway, over 0:19:20.820 --> 0:19:22.740 the years, I've given you we've made a lot of 0:19:22.790 --> 0:19:24.830 fun of you going to Harvard, which I'm actually very 0:19:24.869 --> 0:19:27.090 impressed with because you went to Harvard back in the 0:19:27.130 --> 0:19:31.090 day when that meant something. But do you have any 0:19:31.930 --> 0:19:34.959 opinions on this, what college is worth now versus the 0:19:35.060 --> 0:19:38.919 old days? Like, for instance, your alma mater, Harvard, up 0:19:38.980 --> 0:19:42.440 until recently when they tried to change this, the whole 0:19:42.500 --> 0:19:44.419 how many A's they gave out thing that got so 0:19:44.460 --> 0:19:50.139 much attention, if you include A-, minus, 84% of the 0:19:50.220 --> 0:19:53.630 grades given out at Harvard were A's. A's are A minuses. 0:19:53.630 --> 0:19:53.670 84%. 0:19:53.670 --> 0:19:54.310 I mean, that's insane. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.900 Well, given the fact that I got all Ds when 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.740 I got out of there, it does probably speak well, 0:20:03.780 --> 0:20:06.380 just joking. Here's the thing, Jack, it's funny we're having 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.959 this conversation today. Literally, Jack, two days ago, they had 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.070 an online conversation with Harvard's president, who I sat through 0:20:14.090 --> 0:20:16.510 the entire hour of this Zoom call, whatever, just to 0:20:16.530 --> 0:20:17.910 see what he had to say about it. Of course, 0:20:17.950 --> 0:20:20.970 he dealt with federal lawsuits and all, but great inflation, 0:20:21.010 --> 0:20:23.010 believe it or not, was the first topic discussed. 0:20:23.330 --> 0:20:25.370 He addressed. Now, I wanna say one caveat. 0:20:25.450 --> 0:20:27.350 I went to one of the Harvard professional schools, the 0:20:27.369 --> 0:20:29.710 Kennedy School, got my master's degree there. So I can't 0:20:29.770 --> 0:20:33.550 speak to Harvard College as they call the undergrad. But 0:20:33.850 --> 0:20:38.070 more broadly, what's really interesting is that places super expensive 0:20:38.090 --> 0:20:41.470 like Harvard, people are talking about regularly now, Jack, going 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.919 to three-year college degrees rather than four, partially just because 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.800 of what you said. The return on investment, the cost 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.490 of going to any college these days versus the return. 0:20:52.830 --> 0:20:56.190 And it's somewhat sad to say for people who are 0:20:56.230 --> 0:20:58.689