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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. It's me German, m G. Marcus Grant,

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Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. I'm gonna go back outside. Got a great

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Speaker 1: show for you today. We have our old friend Michael F.

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Speaker 1: Florio joining us because I want to have a conversation

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Speaker 1: about something that started kind of as a Twitter conversation.

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Speaker 1: But it's also a thing that you know, if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the show, you follow me, you know that

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Speaker 1: I sort of rant about every summer. So it feels

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Speaker 1: like this is about the time to kind of start

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Speaker 1: this rant again. So we'll talk to Florio about that.

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Speaker 1: I'll also get his thoughts, just some general draft strategy,

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Speaker 1: look at some running backs and wide receivers, all that

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. Should be a good time. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to Florio, I want to bring in, and

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Speaker 1: I have been remiss in doing this, we have a

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Speaker 1: new producer, our pal, Steve Is. He is still around.

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Speaker 1: Uh he is, you know, he he was tasked with

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Speaker 1: their things before he joined us. He has gone back

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Speaker 1: to those other things. He's definitely a numbers analytics guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh so he's going to spend more of his time

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Speaker 1: on that. So in his place. We have Justin Graver,

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Speaker 1: who is now producing the NFL Fantasy Football Show. And Justin,

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Speaker 1: you've been here for a couple of weeks. Now, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being on. Welcome to the show officially, I

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Speaker 1: guess for everybody out there, Uh, tell the folks about

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Speaker 1: yourself a little bit. Well, thanks, Marcus. Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: we had to make sure that I could do this

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. You know what, it introduced

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Speaker 1: me and then have to unintroduced me or something. Now.

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Speaker 1: I have a background covering the Tennessee Titans on Twitter

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Speaker 1: mostly and for some local Nashville blogs like Broadway Sports Media,

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Speaker 1: but I have stepped away from that to produce for

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Speaker 1: the NFL Media department, and I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 1: So thank you. Yeah, dude, We're glad to have you.

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Speaker 1: I see you are sporting a Mavericks basketball tea shirt today,

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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming you are a MAVs fan, since you know,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee does not have they don't have a professional basketball team,

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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing you're a Mavericks fan. Huh. Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, but there is the Memphis Grizzlies. But there's

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Speaker 1: a big Nashville Memphis rivalry thing, so yeah, we support

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Speaker 1: the MAVs. You just just skip over Memphis. You're like, whatever, man,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're go to Dallas. I'm gonna check

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Speaker 1: that out. So I did, I forgot it. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe I forgot it. You know why. You know why

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Speaker 1: I forgot about the Grizzlies because they eliminated the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: So I just I just erased it from it totally

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Speaker 1: from my mind. John Morant no longer exists because you

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Speaker 1: sent step home for the season. So that well, justin

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Speaker 1: We're glad to have you. H It's been It's been

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Speaker 1: great the first couple of weeks having you around here.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we have not scared you off and look forward

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Speaker 1: to just kind of working with you over the next

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Speaker 1: however long this is gonna be. Yeah, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: helping people win their fantasy leagues. However we can awesome, fantastic,

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Speaker 1: all right, So we will now bring in our old

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Speaker 1: Palt Michael fle Florida go to the bullpen and getting

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Speaker 1: one of our most reliable arms to come out and

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Speaker 1: and help us out. Florio, good to see you. As always.

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Speaker 1: I have to start with a huge hearty. Congratulations on

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Speaker 1: the wedding. You and the mrs looked great. Uh so

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Speaker 1: congratulations man. How are how are you feeling now that

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Speaker 1: you are remarried? Man? Thank you, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for that. I to steal something from a good friend

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Speaker 1: of yours, Matt Harmon, I'm domesticated now, right, like I know,

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Speaker 1: I know he always says that. So yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: in the future, and you know, FaceTime and lots of

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Speaker 1: people were sending us stuff. So it was just a

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Speaker 1: great couple of days the last few days. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I know that there has been in the works for

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Speaker 1: big congratulations to you for that. Um, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: let's saw some fantasy football here, because that's what we do.

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Speaker 1: The reason I wanted to get you on is because

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Speaker 1: We had other people sort of chime in and jumping in.

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Speaker 1: It started about quarterbacks. Uh, and used to talking about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You like quarterbacks? Maybe you are avoiding UM, And it's

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Speaker 1: spawned a much larger, bigger conversation, which I will sort

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Speaker 1: we're talking about quarterbacks, UM, do you have a preferred

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Speaker 1: quarterback drafting strategy and what what would that be? UM?

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Speaker 1: For last year? Now for this year, it seems to

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Speaker 1: never gonna have Patrick Mahomes because of it. And I

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Speaker 1: love Patrick Mahomes. I I have his like Funko Pop.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big supporter of his, but he goes so

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Speaker 1: early that I'd rather get an elite tight end or

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Speaker 1: like I love Josh Allen. I'm a Bills fan. I

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that going like the sixth seventh round someth times,

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Speaker 1: like the Dak Prescott's the UH justin Herbert's you could

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Speaker 1: are now going rounds earlier, because I think all of

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Speaker 1: those quarterbacks have the same maybe not the same ceiling

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Speaker 1: as a Patrick Mahomes, but they can be the QB one.

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Speaker 1: I think if things break right like it will it

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Speaker 1: be any Will anyone be surprised that Dak Prescott is

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Speaker 1: you could get him rounds later and enterprise where you're

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Speaker 1: not sacrificing a top player at another position to get

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. I mean, I I completely agree. And you

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Speaker 1: know it was I think it was two summers ago

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Speaker 1: who was UH. I'd say he's renowned for being the

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Speaker 1: late round quarterback draft that is his Twitter handle, Late

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Speaker 1: And so I'm just gonna I'm gonna read your your

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Speaker 1: different reasons, I don't anticipate having much of Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Homes is the QB one, But I'd rather grab an

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Speaker 1: more about you know why you wouldn't you know, draft

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Speaker 1: Rogers or Brady Brady. I certainly understand. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: So it definitely makes it at some point father time

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Speaker 1: So that when I get even the Aaron Rodgers the

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote experts and the sharps, and it really

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Speaker 1: I think even one of the responses to your tweet

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Speaker 1: which I mean, I know it's it was an exaggeration.

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Speaker 1: a point where early round quarterbacks are a thing? I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, Marcus, you've been leading this like like

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Speaker 1: whoever got the number one pick would take Patrick Mahomes, No,

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Speaker 1: questions acts, but I'm here in fantasy saying in the

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Speaker 1: So it shouldn't be in some leagues, you know, a

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Speaker 1: To me, it's almost a direct negative of a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna have to be rule changes. I said

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Speaker 1: it on Twitter. It's probably gonna have to be someone

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Speaker 1: I've been toying with lately is like, can we see

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Speaker 1: PPR and maybe even points per completion change to the

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Speaker 1: it's worth more points because I know the big knock

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Speaker 1: think also if you told people like your casual fantasy

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Speaker 1: per completion league, and I was with you that that

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Speaker 1: attention downfield, I think there's gonna be a lot of

427
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Speaker 1: dump off opportunities to Mike Davis. So I think it'll

428
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Speaker 1: be volatile week to week, But for me, I have

429
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: him as a low end rby two. I mean I

430
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: think that's that's about right. I mean it's funny too,

431
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: because you remember after Christian McCaffrey got hurt and Mike

432
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: Davis came in and early on he had a couple

433
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Speaker 1: of nice games, and you know, there was like it

434
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Speaker 1: was it was definitely I think hyperbole. The people are like, hey,

435
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: well maybe they don't need Christian McCaffrey anymore, Like I don't.

436
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't think we really believed that, but it was

437
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: kind of a fun talking point for a little bit.

438
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Speaker 1: But he sort of faded as the season went on.

439
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 1: He sort of ran out of steam. And for all

440
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: the excitement we had and all the good feelings we

441
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Speaker 1: had about Mike Davis, I went back and look and

442
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: he had maybe five really usable weeks last year. Um, yeah,

443
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: I think five double digit weeks. Everything else was sort

444
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: of anywhere between four and eight maybe nine points, which

445
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really do a whole lot for you. Um,

446
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: so you know, understanding that this is he's also not

447
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: a young guy. Um, you know, this isn't like, this

448
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: isn't like a guy who's in his second or third

449
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: year where you're like, hey, you know what, there's a

450
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Speaker 1: chance for him to maybe make the leap. At this

451
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Speaker 1: point in his career. We sort of know who Mike

452
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Speaker 1: Davis is, um, so I'm just I'm sort of just

453
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Speaker 1: assuming that this was just all a fun goof uh

454
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Speaker 1: and everybody just had had a good time about it. Which,

455
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: by the way, speaking of what, there's another I don't

456
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: know if you saw there's another A J. Dillon in

457
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Speaker 1: shorts uh photo that went out earlier today the Packers

458
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: put out another one. So the quad Squad as I

459
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: think he I think it's villain that tweeted that quad

460
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: Squad last week or two weeks ago. Uh, it is

461
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Speaker 1: in full effect. So I don't know if we're gonna

462
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Speaker 1: get another round of a J. Dylan hype. Who knows.

463
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Speaker 1: My one question real quick on the Falcons is like

464
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Speaker 1: which veteran running back are they gonna sign? Right? Like?

465
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Speaker 1: Are they gonna bring in Todd Gurley again Lean Bell?

466
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Speaker 1: Like they can't go into with just Mike Davis and Quadrialison?

467
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Speaker 1: Can they know? Although you know, Hawkins to everyone loves

468
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: people try to make this case for Javian Hawkins right now. Um,

469
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Speaker 1: now they're signing somebody, and I wouldn't be surprised if

470
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Speaker 1: they reunite with Todd Gurley, you know, for for one

471
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Speaker 1: more year and see if they can make it work,

472
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, and and and that, which might honestly be

473
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Speaker 1: terrible for us, because you know that you're having Girly

474
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Speaker 1: in for like a down, you're having Davison for a

475
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Speaker 1: down or two. Then they try to work in whether

476
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Speaker 1: it's Ollison or or Hawkins or somebody like that. Like,

477
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Speaker 1: I think that potentially is the worst case scenario because

478
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Speaker 1: then you have so many guys fighting for a limited

479
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Speaker 1: number of touches. So so maybe we maybe we don't

480
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Speaker 1: want that. I don't know. Um. As always this time

481
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Speaker 1: of year we start doing drafts, the topic of zero

482
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: RB comes up. I think I feel like litigating it

483
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: is probably kind of a dead issue because it's just

484
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: I think people are short of kind of dug in. Um.

485
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Speaker 1: I think it's sort of depends on the year now, um,

486
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Speaker 1: and I think it depends on the format. Like I

487
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: think in Best Ball, you can always make a case

488
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Speaker 1: for zero RB because you can just you can find

489
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: guys who will have good weeks for you, regardless of

490
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Speaker 1: the situation, but in in redraft leagues and just under

491
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Speaker 1: standard redraft leagues, could you make a case for doing

492
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Speaker 1: it this year or is it still something that you're

493
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Speaker 1: not maybe thinking about. I'm not thinking about and I'm

494
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Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the train. Actually I'm going

495
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Speaker 1: zero wide receiver if I'm going zero at any position,

496
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Speaker 1: because I think zero RB worked when one. It depends

497
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: on the year, like you said, Marcus, But like last year,

498
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Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty terrible year for zero

499
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Speaker 1: RB drafters. And I know people were like, oh, there

500
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: was a lot of weeks where there was a replacement

501
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: on the waiver wire, and I was like, great, unless

502
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 1: you're burning through your fab right away, or you know

503
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you're you're having a high waiver pick, which probably means

504
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Speaker 1: you're not having a great record. Like I, I didn't

505
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Speaker 1: see it as a great I I had a league

506
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Speaker 1: last year Marcus where I lost s Kwon Barkley right away,

507
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: and then Chris Carson missed, missed a bunch of time,

508
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: and I was going on the waiver wire and this

509
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: is just a twelve team league, and I was starting

510
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: guys like Wayne Gallman for a stretch, he was alright,

511
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: but then like le Michael p Ryan some weeks and

512
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm like Jordan Wilkins, and it was gross. And I

513
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: I finished like five hundred that in that league. And

514
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: I just had so much better success in the leagues

515
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: where I dressed running backs. And of course I have

516
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, but I addressed it early, and to me,

517
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: that is going to be my approach again, especially because

518
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: like we're routinely now seeing first rounds where nine, ten,

519
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: sometimes eleven of the picks are running backs, and then

520
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: the second round is completely littered with running backs as well.

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Speaker 1: So if you're waiting there, I mean, especially if you're

522
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Speaker 1: like towards the end of the first round where maybe

523
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: you get two elite receivers, your RB one is gonna

524
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Speaker 1: be someone like like maybe like Kareem Hunt or Miles

525
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: Gaskin And and to me, I do not feel comfortable

526
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Speaker 1: with that at all. And I think that's I think

527
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: that's sort of the the the thing with zero RB.

528
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: It's just your level of comfort with the guys you're

529
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Speaker 1: going to end up with. And I think, uh, you know,

530
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: the folks who do it, um, I I honestly respect

531
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: and admired because I don't know that I have the

532
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Speaker 1: the fortitude to go and do it, because I look

533
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: at the running backs that are left and I'm like,

534
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: I don't love this and like I just don't feel

535
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: great about it. But um, you know, I know that

536
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: there are people that are still die hard with it,

537
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: who still live by it. Um. I you know, I

538
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: am certainly past the point. I do remember, you know,

539
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: when it first sort of hit and became the thing,

540
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: I looked at it like a lot of people like,

541
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: this is crazy, why would you do this? Um? Having

542
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: dug into it and read about it, I understand and

543
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: it I can appreciate it. I just don't have the

544
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: stones to do it. Um. And I just and I'm

545
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: with you though, I feel like I have to get

546
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: at least one solid running back uh in the first

547
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: two rounds before I can feel comfortable. Um. But you know, hey,

548
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock anybody who tries it, because I

549
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: think it takes a level of what It takes a

550
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: level of study. You really have to kind of know

551
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: who your guys are that you're targeting. But it also

552
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: takes just sort of that commitment to it. It's one

553
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: thing to say you're going to do it. It's another

554
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: thing to be on the clock and that clock is

555
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: running down. Uh, and to not pull the trigger on

556
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: one of those top running backs early to believe it. Yeah,

557
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I look at it as like live running backs, like

558
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: like like Gaskin, maybe even like Miles Sanders falls late

559
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: third who I'm not a big fan of Josh Jacobs.

560
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Like I'd much rather have like Terry McLaurin and Ceedee

561
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Lamb in rounds three four than than those running backs

562
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: and have like Stefon Diggs and someone in the first

563
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: two rounds or something like that. Like receivers just so

564
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: much deeper and it's so much more upside once you

565
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: get past the top fifteen or twenty at the position. Yeah,

566
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I I tend to go running backs early,

567
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a tight end if it's if it's

568
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: in the right spot, a bunch of wide receivers in

569
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: the middle, and then I can get back to some

570
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: running backs, uh, sort of in the later rounds there.

571
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: That's just me. Um. You talked about picking kind of

572
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: in that late part of the first round. Um, And

573
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking if you were somewhere, let's say between

574
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: eight and eleven. Right the twelve, you have the turn.

575
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you can sort of do some things

576
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: there when you're on the turn. But at eight to

577
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: eleven were uh. I think in that first round you

578
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: have some really hard choices to make. If you find

579
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: yourself in one of those slots. Who are the guys

580
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: you're looking at? Is it a running back? Is it

581
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's a wide receiver, But who are you looking at? There?

582
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: It's almost exclusively a running back for me. I will

583
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: say I did a best ball I'm in a slow

584
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: best ball draft, and I had the six pick, and

585
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: there I took Travis Kelsey. Um, but you know he

586
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: usually goes around the middle of the first round. I'm

587
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: looking Austin in that range. I mean I am. I'm

588
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: super high on Austin Ekeler. I put out yesterday on

589
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Twitter a big long thread about him. You could go

590
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: and read why I love Austin Ekeler so much this year.

591
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: But Marcus, I have so many drafts that I have

592
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: started back end of the first with some combination of

593
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler and Cam Akers like those are my guys

594
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: this year. Um, So if I could get one of them,

595
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm completely comfortable doing. So. Some other names there would

596
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: be like Aaron Jones and Zekiel Elliott. Um, I will

597
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: say this too. As much as everyone loves Nick Chubb,

598
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm not really looking to take him that early because

599
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't catch a whole lot of passes. So in PPR,

600
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I think the April he's just behind the eight ball

601
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: there because it's so hard. It's why I don't love

602
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: like J. K. Dobbins as much as others, because if

603
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: you're not catching passes, you have to just run for

604
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: so many yards, and specifically you need at least double

605
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns probably in the teens and touchdowns to really

606
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: finish as a high end RB one. Uh So those

607
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: are like Eckler, Acres, Jones, Elliott, those would be the

608
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: names I'm looking at target in that range. The Eckler

609
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: one is the one that really popped in mind for

610
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: me because it's funny. Um. Sometimes I know that we

611
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: all sort of get accused of group think in this industry,

612
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna call the Echler love group think

613
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: because I think we all look at it. We see

614
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: a genuine opportunity for him to be successful and really

615
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: productive now in this new offense there in in Los Angeles.

616
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: But man, the Echler love I feel like has been

617
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: offset charts for the last couple of weeks. Um, I

618
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: don't think I can log into Twitter without seeing somebody

619
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: or other talk about how they think Austin Necklar is

620
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: going to be great this year. Um, I'm hoping that

621
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: you know what normally happens when you know, when we

622
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: all love somebody, what normally happens that it goes sideways.

623
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of hoping that we don't jinx this

624
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: because I do think we all love Austin Ekeler. Which

625
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: feels part of the Twitter though, is that we all

626
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: love him that he's still going late first round, so

627
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it hasn't really I think amounted to a huge boost

628
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: in his ADP, which is weird debate. I have him

629
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: as in PPR, I have him as my RB five, um,

630
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: and like someone asked me, when would you the earliest

631
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: he would take him, and I said middle of the

632
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: first round, But luckily I don't have to. Sometimes you

633
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: even get him in the second round. But I think

634
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those players that just gets

635
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: pulled up and up and up draft boards and it's

636
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: funny because this year everyone loves Austin Ekeler. Last year

637
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: there was some love for him, but there was a

638
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: lot of people that were anti Ekeler and team Josh Kelly.

639
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: And how quickly that has changed. I mean, it was

640
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: funny because you know, that was Josh Kelly is coming

641
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: to to to eat his lunch. It was like, you know,

642
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: and I think I said after because that first week

643
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Josh Kelly had a really big first game, and I

644
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: think I said afterwards it like, hey, look, maybe maybe

645
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't everybody just moving up or wrong on the ladder.

646
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't Austin Eckler graduating to the Melvin Gordon

647
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: role and Kelly taking the role. I was like, maybe

648
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: they brought in Josh Kelly to be the new Melvin Gordon. Um.

649
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Obviously that was not the case because the rest of

650
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: the season was not great and Kelly became an afterthought

651
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, but early on it

652
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: did look like he was gonna kind of take over

653
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: that whole thing. Um, after about the first twelve of

654
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: running backs, there's a whole group of guys in there

655
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: that are just sort of like, I mean, I think

656
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: that's when you're talking about that third, fourth round where

657
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: maybe we're all pivoting to wide receivers at this point

658
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of the running backs don't necessarily excite you,

659
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: at least not at that draft spot. So I picked

660
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: out three of them, DeAndre Swift, Josh Jacobs, Clyde Edwards,

661
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: de Laire. If you're staring at all three of those,

662
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: which one would you rather have? Uh? Josh Jacobs is

663
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: the clear third for me, Like, I don't anticipate really

664
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: having much of him because again, pass catching is huge,

665
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: especially in PPR leagues, which is you know, NFL dot

666
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Com leagues are PPR leagues. Um so, and now he's

667
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake there too, who's going to take some touches away?

668
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I go back and forth, like I

669
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: have after my top twelve, Marcus, I have a group

670
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: of five running backs that if you ask me on

671
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: any day, they might be in a different order, because

672
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: I just I can't like I have DeAndre Swift right now,

673
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: this is the order I have him in, Swift, Gibson, Harris, Carson,

674
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 1: c h. To me, those five five are after the

675
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: top twelve. I think those are the next five running

676
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: backs that should be taken and and I don't. If

677
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: you want to put them in any order, I won't. Again,

678
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm mixing them up myselfs uh so I don't. I

679
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: don't really won't knock anyone for having them in any order.

680
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Right now, I would go Swift. But I'm starting to

681
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: think that c. E. H Is getting overlooked because we

682
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: put such lofty expectations on him last year and he

683
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: failed to deliver. But everything that we loved about him

684
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: last year is the same this year. Like he has

685
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and and a better cheats Olan this year

686
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: than last year. You can make the case he still

687
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: has you know, Kelsey and Hill there that are gonna

688
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: take all the defensive attention away from him. There there's

689
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: no Damian Williams Now, he doesn't really have a direct

690
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: competition for all that work. So I'm starting to think

691
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: c H is being overlooked. I love DeAndre Swift's talent.

692
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a great pass catcher. I think that

693
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: he is their best running back between the tackles. But

694
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not worried about the offensive around him because

695
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I think he can overcome that. My biggest fear is

696
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Jamal Williams for years would limit Aaron jones

697
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: is upside and Aaron Jones would have high TV numbers

698
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: that would make up for the fact that he was

699
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: taken off the field of the time. Is DeAndre Swift

700
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get, you know, the twelve ten,

701
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen touchdowns like Aaron Jones has gone with Green

702
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: Bay on the on Detroit, I'm not so sure he can.

703
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: So that to me is the bigger concern rather than

704
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: Jared goffrom the offensive around him. I mean, I think

705
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I think the touchdown upside is capped just by virtue

706
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 1: of being in that Detroit offense, I mean versus if

707
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: you're making that Aaron Jones comparison, the Packer offense is

708
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: set up to score a whole lot more than the

709
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Lions were are are, So that I think puts a

710
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: cap on DeAndre Swift. And I just think that Jamal

711
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Williams factor is real, whether or not you know, however

712
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: you're defining, you know, him being the a back that

713
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, you know, made the comment about um. Whether

714
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: you think that means he is the starter and the

715
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: lead back or if it just means that they're going

716
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: to use him in a certain way or whatever it means. Means, um,

717
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: he is going to get the ball a lot. And

718
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: it's I think what's interesting is that we talk a

719
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: lot about how the Eagles don't seem to love Miles

720
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Sanders as a workhorse. I'm getting the same vibe from

721
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Detroit when it comes to DeAndre Swift that they don't

722
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: feel kind of that way about him either, that they're

723
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: willing to bring in more guys to kind of put

724
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: around him, uh and give the ball to. So maybe,

725
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, some of our love that we had for

726
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, maybe we should back off of that a

727
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: little bit. Um. And I do think the c EH

728
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: maybe getting overlooked because as you mentioned, there's really nobody

729
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: else there that I'm super concerned about. I mean, I

730
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: guess Jerick McKinnon. Uh, you know, he has obviously struggled

731
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: to stay healthy throughout his career, um, but he seems

732
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: like the only real threat at the moment to maybe

733
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: get any work there consistently behind Edwards Hilaires. Maybe we

734
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: are We're overlooking him a little bit. And I think

735
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I think he was brought in to be because I

736
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: know a lot of the times fantasy players like to

737
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: look at the death chart and be like, well, Darryl

738
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: Williams is next in line. I think the Chiefs real

739
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: is if c H goes down, we don't have another

740
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Like Darryn Williams isn't like c H in the passing game,

741
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: whereas McKinnon is a good pass catching back. So I

742
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: think he like kind of like Justin Jefferson in uh,

743
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson in in the with the Chargers, Like if

744
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Eckler goes down, he's not gonna suddenly get you know,

745
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: twenty touches a game, but he's going to get a

746
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: lot of the past catching opportunities like that. You know,

747
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs could also be one of those teams in

748
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: line to sign one of those veteran free agent you know.

749
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Bring up Altho Lef sid I mean I Lef said

750
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: he went to to Kansas City because like he felt

751
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: like they were going to use him a lot, like

752
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: he just wanted to kind of chill. Uh. I guess

753
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: the barbecue or something. I don't know. Um uh. Week one,

754
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is catching passes from who who? Um? My

755
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: answer is hopefully not Justin Herbert I'm gonna I'm gonna

756
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: say it's it won't be Dallas, I'll tell you that much.

757
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really I've been struggling with this.

758
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: I've been going back and forth, Like like Justin said, Tannehill,

759
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: it Titans would be a really good spot for him

760
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: for real life purposes, for fantasy purposes, but it would

761
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: hurt A J. Brown for sure. I just don't want

762
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: to be the Chargers because then it hurts Eckler, Keenan Allen,

763
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, who have been drafting a bunch of investment. Yeah.

764
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that signs seemed to be pointing

765
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: towards the Titans, which could be interesting. I think it does.

766
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I think it does a ton for Tannehill. We talked

767
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: about him and and you know the kind of the

768
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: feeling people have about him, the stigma I guess against him.

769
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: If he gets Julio Jones, I think that he races

770
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that, and I think you see Tannehill's

771
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: adp go up. It does definitely take a lot away

772
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: from A J. Brown potentially, but it does a lot

773
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: for that Titans offense. I have seen that he also

774
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: has interests in the Patriots, UM, which could be interesting

775
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: if we get a sense of, you know, who their

776
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks going to be. UM. I saw some some talk

777
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: this morning that, uh, the Patriots could go with kind

778
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: of a two quarterback system, similar to what we saw

779
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees and and Taysom Hill last year. That

780
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: it could be it could be Mac Jones sort of

781
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: between the twenties and Cam when they get kind of

782
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: in the red zone down near the goal line. Um,

783
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: Cam is Cam is going to be Jacobi percent. I

784
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: think even if he's not the starter, like, they'll just

785
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: bring him in and be like running in and line,

786
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: which does no good for anybody, at least not for us,

787
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: because you can't. That means neither quarterback is really usable. Um.

788
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: And on top of it, it's gonna kill you know,

789
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: any of their running backs down there the goal line. Yeah.

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: That that's worst cases that that's that's sort of doomsday

791
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: scenario if that were really to happen in Uh. I

792
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: saw a great tweet. I forget who who put it out,

793
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: but it was just like Julio Jones opening the end zone.

794
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: Oh no, there goes Cam Newton running in. By the way,

795
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is still good at football, right, because I

796
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like there have been a lot

797
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: of discussions on Julio Jones and his ability and like this,

798
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: there's just this undercurrent trying to suggest that he's still

799
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: not that he's not good at football anymore. And I don't.

800
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the Julio from like when you

801
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: know the Falcons up. But I still think like he's

802
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a very very good wade receiver. You would be very

803
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: lucky to have him on any NFL roster. Yeah, Justin

804
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: makes a good point. This is from Evan Silva. Julio

805
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: Jones thirty two years old, miss seven games last year,

806
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: but he stayed efficient number four among wide receivers in

807
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: yards per route run, career high catch rate, career high

808
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: yards per target last sixteen games, a hundred catches, one thousand,

809
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty three yards. That was per Evan Silva,

810
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: the Great Evan Silva. So Julio Jones is still very

811
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: very good at football. He's he's letting it be known

812
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: to He was like Matt Ryan lost a little bit

813
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: of zip on his long ball, so like it's not me. Yeah,

814
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I think it was also frustrated He's like, look, I'm

815
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: just telling people how it is. So uh, Aaron Rodgers leaves,

816
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: how much of a hit does Davante Adams take a

817
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: pretty big one? Um, we know with Aaron Rodgers that

818
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: he is going to absolutely pepper Davante Adams with targets.

819
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: But the bigger thing is, I don't think people realize

820
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: how many like one yard touchdowns Aaron Rodgers throws. Like

821
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: last year he had nine touchdowns. I believe it was

822
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: that we're two yards or less and they're all going

823
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: to Devontae Adams. Like that is how Aaron Rodgers padded

824
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: his touchdown numbers last year. Like Aaron Rodgers was awesome.

825
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: But in most offenses, you get the ball on the

826
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: one or the two first and goal, you're probably gonna

827
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: give it off to Aaron Jones. But there they were like, Nope,

828
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna just throw it to Devontae Adams and keep

829
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: us racking up these touchdowns. So I think that would

830
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: change a lot because you have to trust your quarterback

831
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: to not turn the ball over. And are they going

832
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: to trust Blake Bortles or Jordan's Love to not turn

833
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: the ball over in those situations? I do not think so,

834
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna take a pretty big hit.

835
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Like for me, he would definitely move behind Stefon Diggs,

836
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, A J. Brown, and d Hop which right

837
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: now with Devontae Adams is my like elite wide receiver

838
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: one tier. I think Calvin really enters that if Julio

839
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Jones gets traded, then it's like, do you want to

840
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: put him in the same tears Keenan Allen, Justin Jefferson,

841
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. I think that is the grouping that a

842
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Devantae Adams without Aaron Rodgers would belong, And maybe you

843
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: put him behind him, but I'm not thinking anything more

844
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: than a mid to low end wide receiver one. Anything

845
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: other than that would seem kind of reactionary to me.

846
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Just to stay in your top ten. Yeah, yeah, because

847
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I have right now my wide receiver ten is Terry McLaurin.

848
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: And as much as I love Terry McLaurin, I would

849
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to take to take him over Davantae Adams. Yeah,

850
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I just think the talent is

851
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: too great. Um, this is a far cry from the

852
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: rookie Davantae Adams who dropped passes and everybody was like,

853
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a bust, and now we're

854
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: talking about him is arguably the best receiver in the

855
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: National Football League. So maybe be patient with guys. I

856
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: think that's the moral of the story, right There a

857
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: couple of guys who were disappointing as rookies that were

858
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: hoping for better things. For in one, Henry Ruggs or

859
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor, which guy is most likely to to rebound

860
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: in in this season. I'll go with Henry Ruggs. Um,

861
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: they're kind of similar style players me where they're both

862
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: they excels downfield threats. But you look at Oaka almost

863
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: at Oakland Vegas and Waller is their clear cut number

864
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: one target. But after that everything's up for grabs, right

865
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Like John Brown, we both like John Brown Marcus, but

866
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: if Henry Ruggs is what Henry Ruggs was drafted to be,

867
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna beat out John Brown. I think, Um, Jalen Reagor,

868
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: on the other hand, one I don't. He's unproven quarterback

869
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts, like Derek Carr, isn't great, but we

870
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: at least know that Derek Carr can make fantasy relevant

871
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Jalen Hurts, the Jerry is still out. Plus,

872
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I think Reagor at best is the third target in

873
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: this offense, behind Dallas Goddard and Devonte Smith. Like I

874
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: think they drafted Smith and he I think he is

875
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: the best case of seeing like a target share of

876
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: the rookies this year. I love Jamaar Chase, but he

877
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: has a lot of competition there as well, Whereas I

878
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: think Devonte Smith is gonna come in and show everyone like, yeah,

879
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm better than Jalen Reagor, I'm better than Greg Board

880
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: and all these other guys you have here. I think

881
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: I think Smith walks into Philly and immediately is the

882
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. I feel like that's not I mean,

883
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: unless unless Jalen Reagor does spectacular things this offseason. In

884
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: terms of progression, I think DeVante Smith is the number one.

885
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: I think the number one wide receiver job in Vegas

886
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: is still sort of up for debate now that Nelson

887
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Aghilor is not there. I mean, Darren Wall was the

888
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: number one target, but in terms of the number one

889
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: wide receiver, I think there's still some some question there.

890
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: And and Hayden winks over Underdog Fantasy kind of wrote

891
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: an interesting defense of hitting of Henry Ruggs. That's that's

892
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: out this morning. You can go check that out, but

893
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: sort of saying that maybe some of it, some of

894
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: it was Ruggs, certainly some of it was just the

895
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: way the Raiders used him. Uh, and maybe if those

896
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: things can sort of get back together, uh, that maybe

897
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: there's a path for Rugs to be a little bit

898
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: more productive. Nonetheless, um, his ADP is still gonna be good,

899
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: So I think he's he's he's coming off the board

900
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: in a spot where you're not risking a lot of

901
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: capital in your draft to get him, uh, in the

902
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: hopes that maybe he really does blossom into something um

903
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: in his second year in the league. Al Right, before

904
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: I let you go, I got a couple of rapid

905
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: fire questions for you. UM, let's start with more likely

906
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: to make their respective roster as they tied end, Kelvin

907
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: Benjamin or Tim Tebow. It's got to be Kelvin Benjamin, right,

908
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: like receiver to tight end is a and he was

909
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: a Popeye's biscuit away from being That's such an easy

910
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: adjustment from failed quarterback, failed minor league tight end. Yeah,

911
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean that that that that whole like stint of

912
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: being a mediocre outfielder or whatever it was for a

913
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: few years. I feel like that that changes the game

914
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Um So I'm with you. I think

915
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin, if either of these guys is to make

916
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: their respective rosters, I feel like Benjamin had a better shot.

917
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Although you know, I don't think the Benjamin Gettleman bond

918
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: is as strong as the Tebow Urban Meyer bond, So

919
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if that if that plays a part

920
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: in here at all. This is off topic, but I

921
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: have no doubts that there was. It was like seventeen

922
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: or eighteen. Tebow was hitting like two hundred in the minors.

923
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: The Mets were well out of it. Come September he

924
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: got hurt. I have no doubt that if he was healthy,

925
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: they would have called him up just as something. Whynot, man,

926
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if it could work with the with

927
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: the White Sox and Michael Jordan's, it could work with

928
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: the Mets and Tim Tebow. I totally believe that uh

929
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: better J Cole album ko D or the off season.

930
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I loved ko D. It was one of my favorite albums.

931
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with the off season since since

932
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: it's come out a little over a week ago, it's

933
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: really all I've listened to. I love the fact that

934
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: that they it dropped. I mean within an hour. There

935
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: were takes galore on Twitter and line. I mean, I

936
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: get it. It's I think the album's like forty minutes, right,

937
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: so you can easily listen to it within the space

938
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: of an hour in form an opinion. But man, I

939
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: mean it had barely been out and people just had takes, um,

940
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: it's hot. I can I cannot do that. Like if

941
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I listened to an album once, I'm like, what was

942
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: it about? Like I have to listen on the type

943
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: of person, and I have to listen to it repeatedly

944
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: before I could formulate opinions. Yeah, no, I'm with you,

945
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: Like I need to listen to it a few times

946
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: through UM and just kind of take it in like

947
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: in layers sort of before I can form an opinion.

948
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: But many people had had thoughts. Uh literally, Uh no,

949
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I think it's hot, and like I don't, like, I don't.

950
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't profess to know all of of J Cole's catalog,

951
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: but I was a fan, um, and I've sort of been.

952
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to it straight like you just on

953
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: repeat on loop. So I'll listen to it, I'll go away,

954
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: i'll do something else, and I'll come back and I'll

955
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: listen to it again. Um, but I think the fact

956
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to listen to it again

957
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: speaks a lot to how I feel about it. If

958
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: I didn't love it, I probably would have just listened

959
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: to it and you know been on the way. Uh

960
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: So that is my official take on that album. Um,

961
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: last one, what would you rather have the Mets win

962
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: the World Series or the Knicks win the NBA Finals. Look,

963
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: and I'm loving this Nick season, but I'm wearing the

964
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: Mets jersey because I saw the question that the Mets

965
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: are the team that are most near and dear to

966
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: my heart. I grew up one highway exit away from

967
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Schase Stadium. It was the first sporting event I've ever

968
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: been to. I've been to a good amount of Nick games,

969
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: but like not even anywhere close to the amount of

970
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: Met games I used to be. I used to get

971
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: in for free with a coke can markets like the

972
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: time it would be the Mets winning the World Series.

973
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: That playoff run is still my favorite time in my

974
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: life as a sportsman. Yeah, I know that it's been

975
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: a while for It's been a while for both what

976
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: the Mets and the Knicks, not in my lifetime, in

977
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: my lifetime since the next one championships. So it has

978
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: been a while, uh for for those two New York

979
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: franchises since they have won championships. But uh, look, I

980
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: know there's excitement. Man. There's the playoff basketball in the garden,

981
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: and I know in New York is going nuts over it.

982
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Even if you know Trey Young, you know you punched

983
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: you guys in the gut. He's so good. He's better haircut,

984
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: but he's pretty good. Uh, Florida is always I appreciate

985
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: you coming on. It's always good to talk to you. Uh.

986
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: You know, there's still a decent amount of the off seasons.

987
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: We will talk to you again. But looking forward to

988
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: getting you back on here on a on a more

989
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: regular basis. Dude, I can't wait. I'm looking forward to it. Cool.

990
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate it all right for us, that is it.

991
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the

992
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football show. You know, the drill Tell two

993
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: friends to tell two friends, rate review, and remember, if

994
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: love was really blind, Lingree wouldn't be nearly as popular.

995
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: He said. To take care of yourselves, get vaccinated, and

996
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. Wow. Um w w, I'm coming.

997
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm col and the boy long Coming blad