WEBVTT - Becerra's Bizarre Interview (09/30)

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk with Julie Watts from CBS, California.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a story that we're going to play in

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes. You heard last week there was a.

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<v Speaker 1>There were headlines about how the inspector general for high

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<v Speaker 1>speed rail found that about six hundred thousand dollars were

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<v Speaker 1>spent on consultants.

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<v Speaker 2>The consultants in turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent money on renting premium rideshare trips. And they were

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<v Speaker 1>going out to nightclubs, cigar lounges, sushi restaurants, an escape room.

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<v Speaker 1>It was our money, our tax money, our high-speed rail money.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was published by the inspector general. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bill which requires him to publish reports but also

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<v Speaker 1>lets him withhold certain details. And Julie Watts is going

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<v Speaker 1>to explain this. Julie, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. It's a little confusing. What does the law

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<v Speaker 1>allow and not allow? I'm actually not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you're saying that my report was confusing, huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully folks will watch it and you can kind of

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<v Speaker 4>see it side by side.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to play it in a few minutes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just warning people so that they pay close attention here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so pay close attention here. So there was actually

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<v Speaker 4>four parts of this bill, but we're going to focus

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<v Speaker 4>on this sort of accountability portion of it. So right now,

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<v Speaker 4>or prior to this law being passed, there was nothing

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<v Speaker 4>in state law that required the High Speed Rail Inspector

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<v Speaker 4>General to publish his full reports. He could just publish

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<v Speaker 4>an annual summary once a year with a few lines saying,

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<v Speaker 4>here's my recommendations, here's where they stand. So you and

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't get the details of everything that he found. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>there's an important side note. The current inspector general used

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<v Speaker 4>to work at the state auditor's office. So this is

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<v Speaker 4>a lifelong auditor. And as you know, the auditor publishes

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<v Speaker 4>very in-depth reports. A lot of the investigations that happen

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<v Speaker 4>on a federal level and a state level stem from

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<v Speaker 4>those reports. So this is a man who, he's all

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<v Speaker 4>about transparency. He wanted to be able to publish the

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<v Speaker 4>full reports. So he started doing it voluntarily, but he

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<v Speaker 4>also realized there was nothing in the law that necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>authorized him to do it. So technically the Newsom administration

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<v Speaker 4>could have stopped him and said, nope, just a summary.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't tell everybody what's actually happening. He didn't want that

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. And two, he will tell you, to the

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<v Speaker 4>Newsom administration's credit, they never said that. They allowed him

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<v Speaker 4>to publish his full reports, but the next guy might

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<v Speaker 4>not or the next administration might not allow that. And

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<v Speaker 4>so he wanted to sort of codify that in law.

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<v Speaker 4>So he said, hey, let's create a law that requires me,

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<v Speaker 4>just like the auditor, to publish my full report. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>the problem, though. If you do that, the law now

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<v Speaker 4>requires him to publish it. You've also got to give

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<v Speaker 4>him some exceptions, like if there is some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>security weakness or fraud weakness. I use an example in

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<v Speaker 4>my story with this most recent investigation. Let's say that

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<v Speaker 4>he found that high-speed rail couldn't detect fraudulent travel expenses. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not going to report that because all the other

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<v Speaker 4>contractors are going to go out and spend a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of money and exploit that until it's fixed. So he

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<v Speaker 4>needs the ability to withhold certain details. So they wrote

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<v Speaker 4>that under a lot, a very common clause for inspector

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<v Speaker 4>generals across the state. But of course, critics said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to use that to hide things from us. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you can hide things. And so he,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he obviously was all about transparency. But then

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<v Speaker 4>when the First Amendment Coalition, who he is sort of

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<v Speaker 4>aligned with, because they're also about transparency, came back and said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this could be abused. He sat down, they

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<v Speaker 4>rewrote it, and they added these exemptions to it. And

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<v Speaker 4>so now if an inspector general does want to withhold anything,

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<v Speaker 4>They have to, number one, tell us they're withholding something.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, release everything else. And number three, reveal to

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<v Speaker 4>some state oversight entity. It doesn't specify which one, and

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<v Speaker 4>this is one the Republicans have a problem with. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>get to that in a second. But they've got to

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<v Speaker 4>reveal to somebody what they're withholding. And then number four,

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<v Speaker 4>they have to tell us every 120 days, update us

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<v Speaker 4>on why they're still withholding it and when they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to release it. And then ultimately, once the security risk

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<v Speaker 4>is fixed, they must release it. There is no law.

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<v Speaker 4>in the country that is that specific, that says if

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<v Speaker 4>you do withhold something, even for a valid reason, you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to jump through these hoops. Now, the Republicans were concerned,

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<v Speaker 4>and I say in my story, this is sort of

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<v Speaker 4>a valid point. The way the law is written, it

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<v Speaker 4>says he must tell the governor's office or high-speed rail

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<v Speaker 4>or the transportation committee chairs, reveal what it is he's withholding. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, California is a supermajority Democratic legislature, which

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<v Speaker 4>means the chairs are almost always Democrats, which means if

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't tell the vice chair, the Republicans aren't going

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<v Speaker 4>to know. And so they raised a red flag saying, well,

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<v Speaker 4>why does it say chair? I also asked this question.

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<v Speaker 4>The inspector general said, listen, I didn't add that line.

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<v Speaker 4>But the transportation chair who authored the bill, she explained

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<v Speaker 4>that I guess in California, I mean, not I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>it's true, but I don't think most people realize it's

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<v Speaker 4>in California, the Republican co-chairs of committees were They don't

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<v Speaker 4>really have any power.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no point.

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<v Speaker 4>Telling them because they can't do anything. So she's like, listen, it's,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and he doesn't even have to tell the chair.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was really the main sticking point. Republicans are like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we're being left out. He doesn't have to tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>And the more you dig into it, the more you

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<v Speaker 4>realize it's really sort of a side note because nobody

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<v Speaker 4>tells them anything anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I mean, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time here, but there's a lot of secrecy going on

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of boondoggle projects. in Sacramento, like that

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<v Speaker 1>new Capitol annex building that they've spent or are spending

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars on, and they won't release any details

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<v Speaker 1>on where that money went. And certainly with the high-speed

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<v Speaker 1>rail boondoggle, there's a lot of money that's disappeared, the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless money that disappeared, the unemployment money that disappeared from COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no explanations, you know, for the last

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<v Speaker 1>10 years' worth of fraud. One more quick thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to take a commercial break, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to play your report. In the next segment, there

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<v Speaker 1>was another there was another bill that Newsom is threatening

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<v Speaker 1>to veto, which the inspector general says is essential.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this was the other half of the bill.

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<v Speaker 4>So the inspector general said, hey, there's two things I need. One,

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<v Speaker 4>I need you to make sure that I have to

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<v Speaker 4>publish these reports. Two, I need more freedom to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to hire my own staff and to buy my

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<v Speaker 4>own software. And I've got a budget, so within my budget,

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<v Speaker 4>I need you to let me spend my money without

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<v Speaker 4>having to get approval from other state agencies. Because keep

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<v Speaker 4>in mind, there are things he may not want other

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<v Speaker 4>state agencies to know because he's investigating high-speed rail. And

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<v Speaker 4>these investigations need to be quiet. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>tip off high-speed rail to what he's looking into. And

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<v Speaker 4>the administration, it actually– let's see, today's the deadline. So

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<v Speaker 4>we should know by the end of the day whether

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<v Speaker 4>or not he vetoed or signed that bill. But bottom line,

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<v Speaker 4>the inspector general says it is crucial that he gets

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<v Speaker 4>these things. He gets these sort of freedoms to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to do his job and hold high-speed rail accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>And at last check– The administration would not. They were, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to give him the money and the

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<v Speaker 1>staff to investigate whether money is being wasted.

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<v Speaker 2>On high-speed rail.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not asking for more money at all. He's just

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<v Speaker 4>asking to use his money the way he sees fit

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<v Speaker 4>without having to jump through hoops and take three years

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<v Speaker 4>to get crucial software into his job.

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<v Speaker 2>I see. But he doesn't have the staff that he needs.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he doesn't. He's only half staffed. And to their credit,

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<v Speaker 4>they got out this great investigation last week, even half staffed.

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<v Speaker 2>So does he need money to hire more staff?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no. He just needs the ability to hire the staff.

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<v Speaker 2>That he needs. Right now he's got to jump through hoops.

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<v Speaker 2>I see. I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good, Julie. Thank you. And we'll play a report next.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts, CBS News up in Sacramento. and we'll play

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<v Speaker 1>you that report coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up after 4.30, we're going to play you some clips.

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Becerra getting interviewed by Sofia Garo from the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco Standard. I've been telling you, Javier Becerra is a dud.

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<v Speaker 1>There is very little brain activity. If you did a

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<v Speaker 1>brain scan or tried to pick up electrical signals from inside,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd probably get a flat line. Talk to a strange

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<v Speaker 1>reporter from the San Francisco Standard called Sophia Garrow. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play you little clips and you could see. It

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<v Speaker 1>was strange. And he hardly ever talks to any reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very odd that this was one that he chose

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<v Speaker 1>because he's basically in isolation. You would think that he's–

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think this was COVID. And he's running a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>similar to Joe Biden. And look how that turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>When they don't want to campaign, there's a reason they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to campaign. They don't want you to find

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<v Speaker 1>out just how empty their heads are. Anyway, we just

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<v Speaker 1>had Julie Watson from CBS San Francisco, or CBS... California,

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<v Speaker 1>up in Northern California. And there is, and you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>this here, kind of a wrestling match going on that

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<v Speaker 1>High Speed Rail, what they're doing ought to be exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>but people don't want to expose everything. And listen to

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<v Speaker 1>how much effort is being made by legislators and people

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<v Speaker 1>with high-speed rail to control how much information comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you listen to this for a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you forget that they haven't produced any track or

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<v Speaker 1>any trains for 18 years. But they're very concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>what we find out and how much detail is in

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<v Speaker 1>these investigations. So play this from Julie Watts.

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<v Speaker 6>Late night and luxury rides to nightclubs, a tiki bar,

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<v Speaker 6>escape room, a cigar lounge in Washington, D.C., paid for.

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<v Speaker 3>By California taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 6>You see, this recent report from the high-speed rail inspector

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<v Speaker 6>general found hundreds of thousands of dollars in wasteful and

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<v Speaker 6>unallowable travel expenses for contractors for high-speed rail, in some

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<v Speaker 6>cases approved by the high-speed rail CEO.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality is.

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<v Speaker 6>We might not know any of this if not for

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<v Speaker 6>a controversial new California law that now requires the high-speed

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<v Speaker 6>rail inspector general publish his full reports. But it also

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<v Speaker 6>allows him to withhold some details.

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<v Speaker 3>At least temporarily.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why the California Republicans dubbed it the.

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<v Speaker 3>Anti-transparency bill. To keep secrets on high-speed rail. I get

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<v Speaker 3>a little riled up, a little chafed when people call

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<v Speaker 3>it an anti-transparency bill, because I immediately say, compared to what?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the best-in-class model.

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<v Speaker 6>That's High-Speed Rail Inspector General Ben Belknap. He and his

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<v Speaker 6>staff are the people behind the recent report and the

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<v Speaker 6>controversial new law. Now, to understand why he's so frustrated,

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<v Speaker 6>you have to understand how passionate this man is about

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<v Speaker 6>transparency and auditing.

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<v Speaker 7>To answer a question, you get to spin again.

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<v Speaker 6>For instance, this is a board game he made to

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<v Speaker 6>help train staff when he worked at the California State

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<v Speaker 6>Auditor's Office for two decades.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a whole complicated game on how to.

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<v Speaker 4>Audit.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the best things I ever created, yeah. So

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<v Speaker 3>I framed it and brought it over with me.

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<v Speaker 6>He also brought over some of his longtime staff to

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<v Speaker 6>help launch California's first Office of the Inspector General for

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<v Speaker 6>High-Speed Rail. The team quickly realized they were missing a

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<v Speaker 6>few things they had over at the auditor's office.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really authorized by anything in state law to

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<v Speaker 3>produce the reports I have been publishing.

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<v Speaker 6>State law only requires that he publish an annual summary

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<v Speaker 6>of his reports with a short summary of his recommendation

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<v Speaker 6>and status. Now, Belknap started voluntarily publishing his full reports,

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<v Speaker 6>but the next IG might not, and technically the administration

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<v Speaker 6>could have stopped him.

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<v Speaker 3>To the credit of the Newsom administration, they've not called

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<v Speaker 3>me on that.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead, they added a provision to the fine print in

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<v Speaker 6>the governor's budget trailer bill, fast-tracking it into law, so

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<v Speaker 6>now the IG is required to publish his full report publicly.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, before, this 29-page report could have been reduced to

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<v Speaker 6>just a few lines in the annual summary and we

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't get it until a year from now, which, incidentally,

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<v Speaker 6>is when high-speed rail is expected to run out of money.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the controversy.

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<v Speaker 6>Because the high-speed rail inspector general is now required to

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<v Speaker 6>publish his full reports, the law also allows him to

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<v Speaker 6>withhold certain portions that may reveal a weakness until the

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<v Speaker 6>weakness is fixed. Things like security gaps or fraud detection problems.

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<v Speaker 6>But weakness, that's a broad term.

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<v Speaker 1>This legislation is nothing more than an effort to protect

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<v Speaker 1>a failing project.

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<v Speaker 8>From public and legislative scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 6>Republicans in the legislature worry an IG could use that

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<v Speaker 6>to hide problems with the project, and they weren't alone.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest, at first when we saw the language

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<v Speaker 4>of the bill, we had some concerns.

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<v Speaker 6>That is the First Amendment Coalition's Jenny LaRue, and her

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<v Speaker 6>concerns concern the inspector general.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of weighed on me that we're both for transparency.

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<v Speaker 6>So he invited LaRue to help make the bill stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>She was giving me scenarios of what it.

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<v Speaker 7>what it could mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, oh, I don't intend that at all.

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<v Speaker 6>He says he also worked with a Republican lawmaker who

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<v Speaker 6>he declined to name to protect her politically.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate her. I know she's going to see this interview.

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<v Speaker 7>Shout out to her.

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<v Speaker 3>She played a key role in that.

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<v Speaker 6>Together with Transportation Chair Lori Wilson, who authored the bill,

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<v Speaker 6>they added what is now being called the gold standard

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<v Speaker 6>of transparency. If an inspector general decides to withhold something,

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<v Speaker 6>he has to publicly tell us he's doing it, publicly

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<v Speaker 6>release everything else, deliver the confidential part to state officials,

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<v Speaker 6>give us an update every quarter, and publicly release the

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<v Speaker 6>withheld portion as soon as the risk is resolved.

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<v Speaker 4>We think it more properly balances the people's right to

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<v Speaker 4>know with legitimate confidentiality needs.

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<v Speaker 3>For instance.

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<v Speaker 6>Hypothetically, with this latest report, if the inspector general found

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<v Speaker 6>that high-speed rail couldn't identify, say, fraudulent travel charges, well,

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<v Speaker 6>he might not immediately report that until it's fixed because

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<v Speaker 6>he wouldn't want other contractors to exploit that. But in

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<v Speaker 6>this case, the inspector general says that high-speed rail can

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<v Speaker 6>and did identify those noncompliant charges. And according to the report,

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<v Speaker 6>in some cases, managers were told they had to approve

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<v Speaker 6>them at the request of the CEO. Now, we're still

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<v Speaker 6>waiting for a response and more records from High Speed Rail.

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<v Speaker 8>Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Julie Watts from CBS, California. They spend all their

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<v Speaker 1>time up there debating how many secrets should be released

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<v Speaker 1>and how many secrets ought to be covered up. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're not spending any time saying, hey. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>get the tracks laid down and buy the trains?

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<v Speaker 2>There's no momentum for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just an endless internal fight over how much are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to cover up or how truthful are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? A little bit truthful, not too much.

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<v Speaker 1>them back on Friday. All right, let's get to this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a debate you can watch on CNN at

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<v Speaker 1>6 o'clock. It's Javier Becerra, Javier Baccaria. And Steve Hilton.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hilton is running a very energetic, very detailed campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sarah is in hiding. He's practically in the witness

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<v Speaker 1>protection program. He doesn't speak to the public, to reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>Very few interviews. No press conferences. No public appearances. Because

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks, hey, California is going to vote 60% Democratic.

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<v Speaker 2>Why should I open my mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>And expose myself, people are going to realize there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>going on in my head, because there is nothing going

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<v Speaker 1>on in his head. We're going to play you some clips.

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<v Speaker 1>He did an interview with the San Francisco Standard. Sophia Garrow,

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<v Speaker 1>very strange woman. I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Is she a regular reporter? I don't know, but it

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<v Speaker 9>was almost as if it was a satire interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. That's what I was wondering. Is she some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of comedian? Anyway, listen to this clip. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>start with cut number five here. Garrow asked Becerra about

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<v Speaker 1>his relationship with the San Francisco mayor because apparently Becerra

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what. Daniel Lurie's first name is? There's some

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<v Speaker 1>confusion here. Play the clip.

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<v Speaker 10>According to your website, you're endorsed by Mayor David Lurie.

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<v Speaker 10>What's your relationship like with David?

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<v Speaker 7>Growing. Growing. He's done a number of important things, amazing things.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you think David's been good for San Francisco?

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<v Speaker 7>I think San Francisco would say, on the whole, he has.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's not pulling a prank on him.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but Sarah has the wrong name on his website,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes along with it. And I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that the guy's name is Daniel Lurie. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just going along with like, yeah, it's David Lurie. And

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<v Speaker 1>he gives such generic answers like, oh, it's growing. It's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got another problem with his website.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. Cut number four.

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<v Speaker 10>You're currently leading in the polls by a wide margin.

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<v Speaker 10>Some people have accused you of assuming that you have

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<v Speaker 10>it in the bag. Have you taken your foot off

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<v Speaker 10>the gas or is the pedal to the metal?

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<v Speaker 7>Pedal to metal is... A little reckless. Certainly not foot

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<v Speaker 7>off the gas. I'm going to work hard to win.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>But foot is on the gas.

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<v Speaker 7>Most definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>Most definitely.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay. Because your website does still list Tom Steyer, who's

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<v Speaker 10>been out of the race since July, as your main opponent.

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<v Speaker 8>Is that strategic?

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<v Speaker 7>No, but I'll check the website.

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<v Speaker 8>Check the website. Well, you don't have to. I have

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<v Speaker 8>it right here for you.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a lot of Tom Steyers on there.

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<v Speaker 7>You know how much Tom Steyer came at me? You

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<v Speaker 7>still have Tom Steyer in your brain, too.

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<v Speaker 8>What's hard to get him out, huh? Seems as if

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<v Speaker 8>your website has not been updated since the primaries.

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<v Speaker 7>That could be. We were out of money.

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<v Speaker 10>Money. issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>And you're outspent 21.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out of money?

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't change the pages on Steyer to some

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<v Speaker 1>information about Steve Hilton?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not very quick, and there isn't much energy there. Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we were out of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>The Democratic Party can't give? What would it take to

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<v Speaker 1>hire a guy for an hour to take down the

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<v Speaker 1>Steyer pages and put up some Hilton stuff? You want

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<v Speaker 1>this guy as governor, huh? Yeah, this looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>really good idea. Here in cut number six... Sophia Garrow

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<v Speaker 1>is asking Bakaria about what kind of companies he would

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<v Speaker 1>take campaign money from.

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<v Speaker 10>You've received substantial corporate funding, including from oil companies like Chevron.

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<v Speaker 10>Are there any companies you would not accept money from?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Such as?

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<v Speaker 4>Nixon.

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<v Speaker 8>Palantir?

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<v Speaker 7>No, probably not.

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<v Speaker 8>Lockheed Martin? Yeah. Purdue Pharma?

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<v Speaker 7>I sued them.

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<v Speaker 8>But would you accept money from them?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if it's a legitimate business and they're doing

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<v Speaker 7>business in a way that isn't destroying lives.

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<v Speaker 8>But they sparked the opioid crisis.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's why I sued them.

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<v Speaker 8>Right. But now they're fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, again, we.

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<v Speaker 11>That's why you go to jail. If you commit a

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<v Speaker 11>crime and you serve your time, you get to come out.

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<v Speaker 11>That doesn't mean for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 8>So you believe in second chances for corporations.

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<v Speaker 7>Redemption.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you there's nothing there. How long was that pause?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we time that pause? Play the part again right

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<v Speaker 2>before the pause.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure.

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<v Speaker 8>Such as? Nixon. Palantir?

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<v Speaker 7>No, probably not.

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<v Speaker 8>Lockheed Martin?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, stop. 10 seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't think of a company that he wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>money from. He was the attorney general. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>this new idiot we have, Rob Bonta.

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<v Speaker 2>They just spent their time suing. What was he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I see? What was he doing? Just staring? Smiling?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he was just kind of looking at her, just

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<v Speaker 9>kind of awkwardly, like waiting for a follow-up question like,

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<v Speaker 9>what companies?

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to suggest any himself. Okay. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been telling you that he lost track of 330,000 illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Immigrant children while he was running the Department of Health

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<v Speaker 1>and Human Services during the border stampede. She asks about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut seven.

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<v Speaker 10>One of the biggest criticisms against you is that you

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<v Speaker 10>lost 85,000 migrant children during your time as secretary of HHS.

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<v Speaker 10>Your former chief of staff was also recently caught stealing

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<v Speaker 10>$ 225, 000 from your account without you noticing.

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<v Speaker 8>Would you say you're bad at keeping track of things?

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you ever tried just using air tags to keep

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<v Speaker 8>track of yourself?

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<v Speaker 10>No. Nope.

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<v Speaker 8>Very handy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Although she's got a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>She should have put an air tag on each one

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<v Speaker 1>of those migrant kids. And then we'd know which meatpacking

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<v Speaker 1>plant that they're working at now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. I've got more of these. Coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we're going to find out if Javier Becerra

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<v Speaker 1>has ever been over to Gavin Newsom's house, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're dying to know. She's weird, but this works

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<v Speaker 1>because it exposes him.

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<v Speaker 12>What's he going to say tonight during the debate?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What's weird is Hilton could probably completely annihilate him and

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<v Speaker 1>more than half of the state is still going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for him. Because they hate Trump. That's apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>reason from everything I'm reading. All the analysts say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody hates Trump. Trump's got nothing to do with like $ 6.

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<v Speaker 2>40 gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Because in Indiana, they're paying $ 3.

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<v Speaker 2>83. That's on Newsom's policies.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one thing Becerra's made clear is he's not

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<v Speaker 1>changing any.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Newsom's policies. This is even below the Biden level.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 2>John Kobelt's show. And let's see, coming up after 5 o'clock.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the appearance, the joint appearance by Nithya

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<v Speaker 1>Raman and Karen Bass at the Skirball Center last night

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<v Speaker 1>for a Jewish organization called We have some clips to play.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a debate. They took the stage separately with

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<v Speaker 1>a questioner. And the whole thing seemed to devolve over

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza and the Israelis. And I know that's of great

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<v Speaker 1>importance to people in the audience there. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what they have any control over, their opinions on what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the Middle East. It has no relevance

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<v Speaker 1>to the Middle East and really no relevance to what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through here. We've got such enormous issues that

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<v Speaker 1>neither one of them have made better. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them are the architects of why we have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the trouble in the city. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>very bizarre to see all the headlines about Gaza today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what? You know how far we are from Gaza? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really care what Nithya Raman thinks about the Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really interested in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a homeless guy with a machete running around

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. All right, more now from this strange

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Sofia Garo from the San Francisco Standard and

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Becerra. And he seems, he literally has nothing to say. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>her questions are a little off kilter, but still, I,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just, he just doesn't respond. It's almost, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to smack him, see if he's still breathing, hold a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to his mouth. Javier Baccaria. I thought he had

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<v Speaker 2>a stroke in one of the clips. Here's a weird question.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked, she asked Becerra if he ever went to

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom's house.

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<v Speaker 8>You've been endorsed by Gavin Newsom. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 8>to his mansion? Obviously not.

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<v Speaker 10>No.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you ever been invited?

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 8>Does that upset you?

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you hope to be invited?

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<v Speaker 7>If he wants.

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<v Speaker 8>If you get elected, do you think you'll be invited?

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<v Speaker 7>I can invite him to mine. I won't have a mansion.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, he's not going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>All the crap going on in California. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the world anymore. Let's see. All right, now we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Baccaria's take on Steve Hilton.

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<v Speaker 10>What would make sharing a meal with Steve Hilton more difficult,

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<v Speaker 10>his political views or the fact that he gets his

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<v Speaker 10>authentic street tacos from Del Taco?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, that's, it's a ladder without a doubt. I can't

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<v Speaker 7>eat with a guy who doesn't know what a street

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<v Speaker 7>taco is.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think someone that eats hard shell tacos should

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<v Speaker 10>be trusted with the fourth largest economy in the world?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what?

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<v Speaker 11>I wouldn't trust him with my tamales because he'd probably

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<v Speaker 11>eat the tamales with the husk still on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>That kind of wrecks the fourth largest economy. Yeah, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 10>You talk a lot about the California dream in your campaign.

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<v Speaker 10>Which of these feels more like the California dream? Having

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<v Speaker 10>an unlimited supply of tacos or having an unlimited supply

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<v Speaker 10>of shrooms?

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<v Speaker 11>Esto lo voy a contestar en español para que sepas

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<v Speaker 11>que la respuesta es tacos.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Got it?

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<v Speaker 3>You got it.

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<v Speaker 8>I got it. Shrooms. It was shrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, did I hit my head right now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lying on the floor and I'm having some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hallucination?

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<v Speaker 12>Don't we have bigger issues to talk about here in California?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 12>We're talking about tacos and shrooms?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one interview he's decided to do? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got one more here. Oh, Baccaria on how he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring costs down in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's a good one. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 10>Having affordable health care or getting hit by a Waymo

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<v Speaker 10>and receiving a life-changing insurance payout?

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<v Speaker 11>Getting health care because I don't need to have 40

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<v Speaker 11>million people hit by Waymo.

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<v Speaker 10>Your biggest priority as governor will be getting the cost

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<v Speaker 10>of living down. What's your plan for doing that and

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<v Speaker 10>what specific things will be cheaper?

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<v Speaker 11>We will bring down the cost of health care, the

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<v Speaker 11>electricity you use in your home, energy you need for

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<v Speaker 11>your vehicle. Hopefully it'll become an electric vehicle. President Trump

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<v Speaker 11>is imposing illegal tariffs. He's starting wars, illegal wars in

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<v Speaker 11>places like Iran, things that we have a chance to

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<v Speaker 11>steer here in California, we will reduce the price.

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<v Speaker 7>Housing, the faster we can get these.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it?

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<v Speaker 12>Electric vehicles again? We don't have the infrastructure to support that.

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<v Speaker 4>No!

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<v Speaker 1>No, if everybody got an electric vehicle and plugged it in,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd need twice the energy supply that we have. So

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is producing the energy, we've got to double. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to double the number of natural gas plants, nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>reactor plants, all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't go electric.

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<v Speaker 3>It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no grid.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no electric charging stations. There are some, but nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>near enough. What is anybody talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. Nothing makes sense. Is it me? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to question my sanity here.

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<v Speaker 12>No, it's not you.

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<v Speaker 2>You sure?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm positive because then it would be me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we both hit our heads.

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<v Speaker 12>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>We could both be lying on the floor hallucinating.

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<v Speaker 12>Good point.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be governor. I feel like we need

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<v Speaker 2>a moment of silence.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night was another comedy show. Bass and Ramen over

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<v Speaker 1>at the Skirball Center. And Huma David Hamadi, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor and he's also a political commentator. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on Channel 7 last night talking about his reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>their show. to their forum. It wasn't a debate. They

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<v Speaker 1>both were interviewed separately on stage. And we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of clips to play. They covered slightly more weightier

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<v Speaker 1>issues than Javier Baccaria and that Sofia Garo woman. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play that, too, when we come back. Deborah Mark

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