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Speaker 1: not sick. Sickly, which is probably worse. Sickly is kind

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Speaker 1: college football. Wall to wall Q and A. You guys

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Speaker 1: have flooded the inbox. We talk about pretty much whatever

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Speaker 1: dot com. Also on Twitter at late kick. Josh, you

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Speaker 1: to do that. And here's what's most important, word of mouth.

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Speaker 1: As you can tell, we don't have an advertising budget

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Speaker 1: and it's wearing orange and expletive white. You make me

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Speaker 1: Understand who your audience is. If you've listened to this

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Speaker 1: podcast or watched Late Kick Live for any length of time,

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Speaker 1: you and I are essentially sitting at a lunch table.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking at you. I'm not using some different

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Speaker 1: Why would it be any different. Why would it be

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Speaker 1: whether Texas A and M is going to cover Saturday.

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Speaker 1: This is fun stuff, it's not serious. So understand who

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Speaker 1: with them, they'll be loyal to the ends of the earth.

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Speaker 1: If you have those things, they're valued far more than

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Speaker 1: any piece of paper that says you sat in classrooms

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Speaker 1: for four years, because that stuff's teachable. People in positions

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Speaker 1: that aren't teachable. They want you to have talent, they

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Speaker 2: Go.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you asked about Florida's defense. I mean

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Speaker 1: a lot of you, Like I think I had twenty

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Speaker 1: or so of you ask questions about Florida's defense. So

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Speaker 1: here is your collective answer. It's not good. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they were going to play LSU Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know which defensive coordinator was looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that less but that's on pause right now. I think

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Speaker 1: that the problem that Florida has, and what bothers you

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Speaker 1: the most if you're a Florida fan, is the same

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Speaker 1: thing that's bothering out the Obama fans right now. If

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Speaker 1: you had, for example, let's say a safety or let's

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Speaker 1: say a corners, say one of your corners kept getting

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Speaker 1: burned and that was really what was costing you anordinate

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Speaker 1: amount of yardage and inordinate amount of being burned on

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Speaker 1: third downs. But if that were the case, but your

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Speaker 1: pass rush was still there, and your run defense will

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Speaker 1: still pretty rock solid on the interior, and your linebackers

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Speaker 1: were gap sound, and all of these things were in place,

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Speaker 1: it was just you were you had a liability at corner.

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Speaker 1: You'd be okay with that, not in a sense that

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Speaker 1: you love to watch your guy get burned, but you

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Speaker 1: would know, all right, that's one piece. It's very easily identifiable.

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Speaker 1: But that's not the case with Florida and Alabama. What

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Speaker 1: you've seen so far is the problem start right there

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Speaker 1: in the middle. I'm watching Florida, I'm watching Alabama. They're

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Speaker 1: not consistently harassing quarterbacks, but yet they also can't stop

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Speaker 1: the run on a consistent basis, so you figure to

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Speaker 1: have one or the other. And the problem there is

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Speaker 1: that's not a one man deal. At corner. You could

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Speaker 1: just say, let's get a transfer in here, or you know,

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Speaker 1: let's just bring one of our younger guys off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we have there. It could be that

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Speaker 1: that problem is that easily rectified. When you can't stop

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Speaker 1: the run or when you cannot get pressure on a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's a much bigger issue. That's the issue we've seen,

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Speaker 1: albeit smaller sample size, but that's what we've seen so

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Speaker 1: far from Florida, that's what we've seen so far from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested in this. Normally you would think you

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Speaker 1: just are who you are. I'm really interested because some

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Speaker 1: of these programs previously have been known for defense. So

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if we're going to see some common themes,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if we're going to hear some feedback

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Speaker 1: that explains a lot of this, because right now, what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing in some ways defies explanation. So to be

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Speaker 1: continued with Florida, Harry up next, What is up? With

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Speaker 1: the latest AP rankings, I personally don't get how Ohio

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Speaker 1: State is sixth. Let's be real here, Ohio State would

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Speaker 1: be a double digit favor against Notre Dame in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Why are they ranked ahead of the Buckeyes. Is it

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Speaker 1: because Ohio State hasn't played a game? If so, why

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Speaker 1: I rank them at all? Harry? All of these questions

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Speaker 1: are excellent, All these points are excellent. It's why I

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Speaker 1: have not looked at the AP this year until this week.

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Speaker 1: I kid you not. Every Sunday when I walk in

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Speaker 1: the studio, Colin is there put in the show together

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Speaker 1: for Late Cake Live, and he has a comment about

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Speaker 1: the AP. Did you see where this team was ranked?

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Speaker 1: A Tennessee fell to this spot this week? And it's

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Speaker 1: always news to me because I have not cared about

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Speaker 1: the AP for a long time. I care about where

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Speaker 1: I have teams power rated, And you know, if I

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Speaker 1: have another buddy, like if Bud Elliott were to talk

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Speaker 1: to me about where he has North Carolina power rated,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to compare my rankings to his. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: and the reasons I think are obvious. The reasons, many

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Speaker 1: of which you pointed out, are obvious. So when you

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Speaker 1: me by surprise because I didn't even know that this

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Speaker 1: ahead of Ohio State. That's the god's honest truth. I

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Speaker 1: did not know that. So yet sounds pretty ridiculous because

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Speaker 1: you asked the good question, like what do you do

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Speaker 1: with Ohio State? They're either one of the top two

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Speaker 1: or three teams or they're just not ranked. You get

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Speaker 1: them ranked sixth? What in the world is that? And

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Speaker 1: the other part of that is you're dead on the money, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's how I power rate teams, because you're right.

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Speaker 1: If I would have a team, if I would have

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Speaker 1: a team favored over another team, then the favorite team's

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Speaker 1: going to be higher in the power ratings. I'm not

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Speaker 1: always saying that's the way playoffs should work. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that, but there's a difference between ranking, I guess

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Speaker 1: and power rating these days, I would venture to guess

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Speaker 1: as soon as they start the Big Ten season, this

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Speaker 1: is going to change, all right. Next up is that's

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Speaker 1: a little pop there I'm sure Jordan will love that

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Speaker 1: in post production. Chris is next up. Chris said, have

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Speaker 1: you heard anything from your sources on if Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: is letting Todd Munkin do his thing? Todd Mounkin is

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Speaker 1: the new offensive coordinator Georgia. I asked this because it

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Speaker 1: almost seems like during the games you see some of

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Speaker 1: Kirby's style offense mixed in with Monk and stuff. I

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the offseason reading a

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Speaker 1: lot about Todd Monkin's style and system, and he was

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Speaker 1: more of a pass first guy at all the stops.

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Speaker 1: I have no data to back this up, but it

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Speaker 1: seems like Georgia is a run first team and that

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Speaker 1: kind of leads me to believe Kirby is still handcuffing

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Speaker 1: the offense. I wouldn't say he's handcuffing the offense, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I just say the offense is being run under his

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Speaker 1: team philosophy, and I think it would be very foolish

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Speaker 1: to do anything otherwise. Not to mention, even if they

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Speaker 1: did intend to air raid everything, which I don't think

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Speaker 1: was ever the case, but even if they did have

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Speaker 1: those intentions, those went out the window once quarterbacks started

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Speaker 1: going out the window. Right now, you are working with

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Speaker 1: a guy. Let me put this in playing of terms

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Speaker 1: as I can put it in. They are working with

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Speaker 1: a guy at quarterback right now that a month and

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Speaker 1: a half ago they did not think had a spot

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Speaker 1: on their team as a quarterback. They told him that.

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Speaker 1: That is what was told to Stetson Bennett. He is

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Speaker 1: now starting at quarterback for them. So look at the

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Speaker 1: strengths of your team. What would you do? How would

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Speaker 1: you run things? I don't think it's handcuffing anyone at all.

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Speaker 1: I just think this is the style. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Todd Monkin was brought in under any illusions that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be one way and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden the rug got pulled out from under him.

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Speaker 1: Think he understands the deal. I think Kirby smart Ones

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Speaker 1: understands the deal. And let me tell.

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Speaker 2: You you can you can call it handcuffing if you

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Speaker 2: want to, But I will say this, if I had

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Speaker 2: that defense, I do things in the same way, especially

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Speaker 2: as I'm trying to eat stets and Bennett into things

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to buy time and soil.

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Speaker 1: Maybe JT. Daniels is ready which gives me a lot

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Speaker 1: better arm talent at the quarterback spot. It opens up

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Speaker 1: a lot more of maybe a vertical passing threat. But

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Speaker 1: until then, I just have echoes of that South Carolina

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Speaker 1: game in the back of my mind. Think about Stetson Bennett.

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Speaker 1: Watch this on Saturday with Alabama. Stetson Bennett is not

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Speaker 1: very tall now so far, that hasn't mattered at all.

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Speaker 1: He's very good extending plays on third down like he

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Speaker 1: can do a lot of good things. Here's all it takes, though.

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Speaker 1: All it takes is you deciding you're going to pass

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more. And all it takes

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Speaker 1: is five foot eight, five foot nine whatever he is,

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Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett trying to throw over a line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: battle in front of him, and defensive linemen getting their

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Speaker 1: hands up a couple of times, and balls getting batted

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Speaker 1: in the air a couple of times and falling into

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Speaker 1: the wrong hands a couple of times, and you all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, being minus two turnovers and that being

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Speaker 1: the difference in a game. Then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: guess what people are saying. What people are saying is

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Speaker 1: why are we even taking that risk? We got the defense.

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Speaker 1: We have look at the fact that we lost the

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Speaker 1: turnover battle, and we only lost the game by seven.

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Speaker 1: If we had the turnover battle even we would have won. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that fans can afford to

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Speaker 1: say after a game. That's the kind of thing you

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Speaker 1: have to think of before a game proactively. If you're

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Speaker 1: a head coach. Irish Politico is next up. Would urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer have any interest in Texas? Of course he would, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he would. I don't speak with any firsthand knowledge of this.

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Speaker 1: I just speak with comm sense. Absolutely, he would. Now,

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Speaker 1: some of you also asked do you have any information

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Speaker 1: on this, like do you think anything's happening. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: contact has been made, but understand how contact works in

623
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Speaker 1: college football. No one ever just speaks directly to anyone.

624
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: It's all done via back channel. This obviously grants you

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Speaker 1: plausible deniability. It lets you sit there and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to anyone directly, and also it buys

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Speaker 1: you the opportunity if nothing is going to get done

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Speaker 1: concrete style, it buys you the opportunity for the person

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Speaker 1: you represent and your client to be able to say

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Speaker 1: there was never anything to that. I never even had

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Speaker 1: discussions with them, So if it doesn't work out, you

632
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Speaker 1: can just rid yourself of any rumor. But I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there is. But this is a very, very layered, detailed,

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Speaker 1: intricate process. This is not like you asking, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you want to sign up for PTA? Sign here? Do

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Speaker 1: you want to buy Girl Scout cookies? It's just a

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Speaker 1: yes or no. You either sign or I'm moving on

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Speaker 1: to the next door. I'm casting a spell on your

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Speaker 1: for a year when they stopped by. But Urban Meyer's

642
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Speaker 1: not in the Girl Scouts? So what am I doing?

643
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Speaker 1: So I would venture to think, yes, knowing Texas and

644
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Speaker 1: knowing how they operate, Yes, I'm sure that people who

645
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: have sway at Texas have reached out to people who

646
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Speaker 1: are in the urban Meyer camp, if you will, And

647
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Speaker 1: that's how that works. And basically it's just, hey, would

648
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Speaker 1: he entertain it? What do you think he'd want? What

649
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: do you think he'd need? What would his biggest concerns be,

650
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: what would his feedback be, what would need to change?

651
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Speaker 1: What's his impression of the job, So that we can

652
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Speaker 1: take these things back to Texas HQ and we can

653
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Speaker 1: talk about it amongst ourselves, see what we can put together,

654
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk again next Tuesday. That's the kind

655
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Speaker 1: of stuff I would imagine is probably going on. But

656
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm sure there are other candidates they're

657
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: doing that with too. And also, let's keep in mind

658
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: there's still a head coach at Texas who's got a contract.

659
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: His name is Tom Herman. So for about fifteen different reasons,

660
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: got to be very careful with that. But yeah, I

661
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: think he'd be interested, Certainly, I do. I talked to

662
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer for about twenty five minutes back in the spring,

663
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Speaker 1: and we put a lot of it up on YouTube.

664
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Speaker 1: I didn't get the sense that the passion had left

665
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Speaker 1: that guy. I did not get the impression that his

666
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: football days were behind him. Do you watch him when

667
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: he does studio work for Fox. Do you watch him

668
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and think to yourself, well, there's a guy who's entered

669
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Speaker 1: into the next chapter, next phase of his life. Because

670
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Speaker 1: I don't, I really view it as temporary. I really

671
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Speaker 1: think that he's got football left in him. We've got

672
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: a really good question from Brandon. It's about one team

673
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: but it could just as soon be about ten or

674
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Speaker 1: fifteen different teams, and that is is it time to

675
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: panic yet? I'm going to answer that question about Brandon's program,

676
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and I may just answer it about yours too. Right

677
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Speaker 1: after this, so Brandon asked how worried should I be

678
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Speaker 1: about Auburn's future given what I saw Saturday? And what

679
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: he saw was them lose to Arkansas but still be

680
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: the winner on the scoreboard. A lot of you have

681
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: argued about that with me. If you didn't see the

682
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: ending of that game, it was wild. I think Arkansas

683
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: was screwed out of a win. But at the very least,

684
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Speaker 1: even if you consider that Auburn or Arkansas didn't get screwed,

685
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Auburn should have won. It was a very narrow win

686
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: as a double digit favorite in a game that is

687
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: one of few in the preseason that you looked at

688
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: and said, all right, there's one we can chalk up

689
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Speaker 1: as a win. So now they go to South Carolina,

690
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Speaker 1: for instance, this Saturday, they are about a field goal

691
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Speaker 1: favorite three to three and a half point favorite. I mean,

692
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: that's a tight line on a game that you probably

693
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Speaker 1: thought you would be favored by double digit style of preseason.

694
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Speaker 1: I don't ever know if that was the case, but

695
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Speaker 1: maybe you thought that Brandon, I'd be worried. I'd be

696
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Speaker 1: concerned only because I just don't know what the direction

697
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: is Auburn's headed. I don't know. And here's the other

698
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: somewhat troubling aspect. Defense was not going to carry them forever.

699
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Speaker 1: One of the wildest things about Auburn, it's so detached

700
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Speaker 1: from what reality normally is. One of the wildest things

701
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: about Auburn for a while is that the identity of

702
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: the program has not reflected the identity of the head coach.

703
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: Malson's an offensive guy. They've been winning with defense, and

704
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Speaker 1: that's after they exploded on everyone in twenty thirteen and

705
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and ever since then, you've had this sort

706
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Speaker 1: of offensive production regression. You've had the inability to develop

707
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback in house, and as a result, Kevin Steel

708
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: comes along and has been the most underrated, not undercompensated,

709
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Speaker 1: but underrated higher at the coordinator spot of any of

710
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Speaker 1: the major teams over the last several years. Kevin Steele

711
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: has carried the water for Auburn in many situations where

712
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: their offense couldn't get it done. They've been a contender

713
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: in the SEC, largely because of defense. But now you

714
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Speaker 1: lose guys like Marlon Davidson, Derek Brown, and they've lost

715
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Speaker 1: kJ Britt, who is their quarterback of the defense for

716
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Speaker 1: the season. Now, a lot of attrition there all of

717
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: a sudden. Auburn's not elite defensively anymore. And there's no

718
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Speaker 1: reason to look at their offense and think that there's

719
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Speaker 1: anything about to click there. They're just kind of a

720
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: faceless team right now. They're kind of an identityless team.

721
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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, it's not the second year

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Speaker 1: under Malson. There's not a whole lot of staff overturn

723
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: and staff churned there. I mean, you got a new coordinator,

724
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: but the bottom line is the infrastructure just remains in place.

725
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be something you're saying about a program that

726
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: is seven or eight years or whatever it is into

727
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: a head coach's ten year. So I'd be mildly concerned

728
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Speaker 1: if I were you, Brandon, I don't think that's radical

729
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: to say at all. Go Blue twelve said, when you

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Speaker 1: talk about Jack Cohne, you reference him feeling like a

731
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Speaker 1: seventh year starter. Really, he's only been starting fairly recently.

732
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: Do you just feel like he's maxed out his potential?

733
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Speaker 1: So we're talking about Wisconsin's quarterback here, who has since

734
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: been ruled out for I think it's the year at

735
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: the very least, it's the beginning and Graham Mertz is

736
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Speaker 1: going to start there for Wisconsin. Yeah, it's funny how

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Speaker 1: that works. I don't know if you guys have this,

738
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: but sometimes there are guys like Tua Tongue of Iloa,

739
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: who I feel like he was at Alabama fifteen minutes,

740
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: and then Jack Cone, I feel like he's been at

741
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Wisconsin forever. But you're right, he's not a four year

742
00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: starter or anything like that. I don't know how that works.

743
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: Blue Sea, the hit blockbuster Deep Blue Sea ice Cube

744
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: explained in his own unique way, the theory of relativity.

745
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: It's just the theory of college football relativity. Some guys

746
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: feel like they've been around forever. Some guys feel like

747
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: they just walked in the door and they walked out. Well,

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Jack Cone kind of feels like that to me. But yes,

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Speaker 1: to answer your question, he's a guy. When I've watched him,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like he is who he

751
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: is and who he is is a good solid quarterback now,

752
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: don't complain when you have that. A lot of programs

753
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: out there would love to have that in lieu of

754
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: what they currently have. You don't think Auburn, since we

755
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: just talked about the Tigers, you don't think they would

756
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: settle for good solid quarterback play right now instead of

757
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: wildly inconsistent play. You don't think Tennessee would love some

758
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: good solid quarterback play. A lot of places love it

759
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: instead of the inconsistency. But when I say he is

760
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: who he is, it all depends on what your standard

761
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: for Wisconsin is like. If you're looking to break through

762
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: the next level and there's only about one or two

763
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: more levels to break through for them, I just don't

764
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Speaker 1: know if Cones that guy that gets you there. I

765
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: don't know that Graham Mertz is either. But when I

766
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: know that, or I think I know that a program's

767
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: already kind of scratched the ceiling, I'm interested to invest

768
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: my attention into the unknown. Maybe a little bit higher risk,

769
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: but also maybe a little bit higher reward there with

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Speaker 1: Graham Mertz, champ is next up. You've mentioned Tennessee building

771
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: in an old school way, while teams like Alabama have

772
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: shifted away from that. Is that the style that could

773
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: be successful or could this just be a path that

774
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: eventually leads Tennessee to what Alabama is doing? Now, this

775
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. This is a different twist on this question.

776
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anyone ask So what he's saying is,

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: you Prewitt came up at Alabama, but that's when they

778
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: did things in an old school way, and now Nick Saban's

779
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: totally altered his offensive philosophy and therefore his overall team philosophy,

780
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Speaker 1: while Jeremy Prewitt is installing something at Tennessee that looks

781
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot more like Alabama did a decade ago. Now,

782
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: I think that's the way Prewit has done it by design. Obviously,

783
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: it's not an accident they're building that way. But what

784
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Champ asked is they be going through the same progression

785
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Speaker 1: that Saban at Alabama did. Let's build it this way,

786
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Let's build a rock solid foundation, and then we'll tweak

787
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: things philosophically once we have that rock solid foundation, and

788
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: eventually we'll overhaul our offense into something that's a lot

789
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: more modernized, a lot more cutting edge. Champ, I don't

790
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: think that's the worst theory in the world. But I

791
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: also don't know where Jeremy Prewitt stands on that. It's

792
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: my personal feeling that Prewitz looked around and he said,

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Speaker 1: I can go one of two ways. I can try

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00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: and catch up to programs I'm already years behind on

795
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: and try and build an offense and therefore build an

796
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: overall team like they have. Or I can look around

797
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: and I can try and give myself an edge by

798
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: doing something different than what everyone else is doing now.

799
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Speaker 1: In the SEC A generation ago, that used to mean

800
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: running a bunch of wide open, spread concepts, but now

801
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: everyone does it. So now what's radical is doing things

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00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: the way that they used to do it, but hardly

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: anyone does it anymore. I think that's what Prewit has

804
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: thought to himself gives himself the best chance of success

805
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. Now, whether it does or not, I think

806
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: that will impact going forward if he either feels like

807
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: he needs to make radical offensive changes, or if he

808
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: is told you better make radical offensive changes or else

809
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: we'll get someone else in here. I think we're a

810
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: long way from that either way. All right, good solid

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Speaker 1: forty minutes this morning. I remember late Kick Live comes

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00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: and every Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday night. We'll be talking

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00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: about obviously a lot more on the Bama and Georgia stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do some more game previews. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of game previews left to do tonight, so

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Speaker 1: great weekend for Jordan and Tani on the podcast side

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Speaker 1: of things. On the editing side of things, I'm Josh paid.

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Speaker 1: All they make me do is talk and then send

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Speaker 1: it off. And so I've talked, I'm gonna send it off. Now.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, guys, God bless