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Speaker 1: and long awaited guest Nicholas John Bosa, the reigning Defensive

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Speaker 1: It's great to see you always, and this is my

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Speaker 1: feel pretty special having me out I feel. I feel

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Speaker 1: it deep in my heart, and I appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 1: If I'm doing it for anybody, it's you, buddy. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that. I love you, man, and I'm so

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Speaker 1: proud of you. And I'm so you got the Defensive

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, your rookie year, and we knew

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Speaker 1: I mean you you were on fire for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think you went ten straight. Um, well, you know

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Speaker 1: how seasons go. It's just that that constant grind. You

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Speaker 1: gotta be really fun. Yeah, definitely. I mean, obviously his

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Speaker 1: and he's getting after it already. He's kind of at

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Speaker 1: He didn't have that season where he's back home, let's relaxed,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I'm not gonna hold it back then,

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Speaker 1: but no, he's ready to roll. I'm kind of like

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Speaker 1: holding myself back, like, all right, I gotta give myself

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Speaker 1: off do it today. I've known you since you weren't

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Speaker 1: saying anything. You were just I mean, you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: this has been awesome, man. I really appreciate you. I'll

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