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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club morning,

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Speaker 1: everybody is DJ Envy and Jula Yee, Charlemagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 1: in the building, the bad guy Academics. One of those weeks. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's my week. God damn, I say everything and you

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Speaker 1: just pissed off everybody. You know. The funny part about

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Speaker 1: it is, let me tell this, it's really when they

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Speaker 1: select a nigga every single time where it's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: we all attacking him. You know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: an internet And by the way, just one of those weeks,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not my first time, so I'm handling a

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Speaker 1: little bit better so I know, like you know, after

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Speaker 1: this tough week gets a little bit better. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I ain't choosing. I've always by the way, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I always every opinion I'm giving where every opinion that's

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Speaker 1: pissing everybody off. It's not like I'm just shooting out

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Speaker 1: hot takes. If I'm just shooting out hot takes or

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Speaker 1: shit to like be like shocking, I'd be like damn,

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Speaker 1: and I'm tweaking. But a lot of these things are

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Speaker 1: like you know again, um and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you want to just jump into like go. Essentially, people

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Speaker 1: are taking a thirty or forty or sixty second clip

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Speaker 1: out of me streaming for five hours, and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about all type of things. I'm breaking things down. I'm

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Speaker 1: having full in depth conversation, fullward context. And obviously, if

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Speaker 1: you gotta be you guys do radio. I mean I

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Speaker 1: think so, I think. But even like when when you

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Speaker 1: have to talk to a crowd or talk to any

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Speaker 1: audience line for four or five hours and you got

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Speaker 1: to be arenttaining. You got some jokes in there, you

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Speaker 1: got some tongue in cheek comments, and those are the ship.

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Speaker 1: They're only folks, and nobody wants to talk about nothing

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Speaker 1: actually solid like yo, he said, he said, he said

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Speaker 1: all the ogs are broken, Dusty, I say that. And

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Speaker 1: also that wasn't even context. You did say that. I

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Speaker 1: didn't say, oh you are I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about that because you said something. You said you didn't

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Speaker 1: choose this, but you did. Because whenever you choose to

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Speaker 1: having a pace union on something, you're making a choice

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Speaker 1: to talk about somebody, and you know you might depend

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Speaker 1: not disagree when I said I didn't choose like this

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Speaker 1: timing is that if anyone knows aaron a culture, what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is that it they could pick me in

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Speaker 1: any week because I'm giving the same takes every week.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not like I'm I'm like toning it

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Speaker 1: down like everybody before, yes, opinions. So it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where like it's like cancelation and like people

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Speaker 1: lot of times like they when they want to go

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Speaker 1: at you it's new. It's not like they're like, oh oh,

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Speaker 1: so for everyone that's seen it for the first time,

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Speaker 1: they like, oh, he's tweaking this week. People call me

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Speaker 1: to like, yo, you should tone it down, like nigga,

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Speaker 1: this is what I've been saving for the last three years.

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Speaker 1: So let's get some structures. I would want to start

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Speaker 1: with the DJ academics. That's what I seen it first.

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Speaker 1: People was like, is he a DJO? That's the craziest thing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I thought he answered that before. No. No,

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Speaker 1: But but you know what's so funny about that conversation,

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Speaker 1: the mere fact we're still talking about you know, even

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Speaker 1: that like you know, it's trending. But I think only

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Speaker 1: a certain subset of the population still has this very

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Speaker 1: like how you know, even now, people have this rigid

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Speaker 1: definition of what it means to be a journalist, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, thinking about this, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of new media platforms owned by entrepreneurs. They have

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Speaker 1: the editorial control over things that you could could see

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Speaker 1: his journalism or they journalist. Like, a lot of things

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Speaker 1: are being blurred now. Number one. Let's let's even also,

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Speaker 1: you're new to a lot of people. Even though you've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for like thirteen years, some people might

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Speaker 1: have just found out about you this year. Over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, I gonna lie a lot of

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Speaker 1: the guys who, by the way I looked up to

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Speaker 1: most of them that responded, and by the way, I

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Speaker 1: There was five percent that worth though, ain't gonna lie,

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Speaker 1: But the ninety five cent of them, those guys, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: the context I was talking about passing on game, I

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Speaker 1: was talking about educating the next generation rather than criticizing them.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, sometimes you don't understand why they

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Speaker 1: you you kind of get into in this game. You

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Speaker 1: never passed it on. You never passed that knowledge. So

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Speaker 1: now when now you're not a DJ, academic doesn't DJ

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Speaker 1: anymore DJ when you're in college. I still consider myself

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Speaker 1: he does DJ every morning I go in that room

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Speaker 1: so you still DJ? No? No, Well, I don't DJ

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Speaker 1: professionally anymore. I started out DJ and then I got

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Speaker 1: at first, you know what I mean? So I like

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Speaker 1: people be hemmed up over the DJ name. I'm academics regardless.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to call me DJA, a big

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Speaker 1: I'm still me. When the last time you was up

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Speaker 1: here with ten years ago, twenty two thirteen. First, so

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Speaker 1: your first, your first interview ever was with me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your first, my first, my first interview outside of like

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Speaker 1: so twenty thirteen. Um, you know, I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: still bad a networking because even though I'm I'm quote

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Speaker 1: could live completely off a niche. I've always thought I

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Speaker 1: But I'm anyway back then. I'm just trying to get

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Speaker 1: Me and Charlomagne I used to always listen to Breakfast something.

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Speaker 1: always wanted to study the greats. So I've studied his

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Speaker 1: I used to try to challenge him, like, nah, you

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Speaker 1: And you know that's how I kind of got my start,

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Speaker 1: Like I think a lot of people would have just

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Speaker 1: And that was me asking for mentorship. Basically say I'm

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Speaker 1: but at night, I don't know now how night i'm

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Speaker 1: powered up, whatever the case is. No, I didn't want

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Speaker 1: hey you could do it better here, just kind of

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Speaker 1: give me mentorship. It's very important for anybody who's coming

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's it seems very naturally

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Speaker 1: it is very disrespectful, so you immediately disrespectful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if I call him nigga broken dusty, it like

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Speaker 1: But but I wasn't told about everybody. It was a

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Speaker 1: four our conversation basically saying, you feel that a lot

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Speaker 1: outside of older artists, older DJs should look out for

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Speaker 1: Ella responded, and I want to sleut to Lla. I

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Speaker 1: think you know, um, everything he said was right, So

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Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me put that out on

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Speaker 1: the table. I agree one percent with everything he said. However,

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of what he said wasn't focused on what

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Speaker 1: I was saying because he got off center. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: you're equating money to contribution and like like respect and

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Speaker 1: all that. That's not what I was saying. That's not

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Speaker 1: I'm never like questioning the contribution or you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not appreciating the contribution of anyone who came before me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm never saying that money is the only thing

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Speaker 1: that validates that contribution. I was more so and again

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Speaker 1: you know the way I used my platform. I try

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Speaker 1: to be very transparent. That's what gets me in trouble too.

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Speaker 1: I'm mad transparent, Like I let people know what's really

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Speaker 1: going on behind these industry doors as the best that

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Speaker 1: I know, the best everything I hear and see, so

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Speaker 1: I could educate somebody else. Because I was a super fan.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting at home listening to the Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: every fucking morning, wondering is that real? Is this? Like?

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Speaker 1: What's the real ship going on? So like, once I

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Speaker 1: day left right up down. I'm gay this week. I'm

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00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 1: not gay this week. Me and Charlota made's dating this week.

422
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't care. But don't don't bring me in this.

423
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm bringing you be gay on okay. But when it

424
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: comes to outside of that, somebody might think it's a joke.

425
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: Even with Jesus and Merrill, they thought it was a joke.

426
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 1: I didn't play with my Wife's different what I'm saying

427
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: that's different. I would you consider your wife is a

428
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: public figure? You could because you want we wrote a book.

429
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: Well at that time she was, she was not a

430
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: public figure. Don't think so. If I'm talking about one

431
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,959
Speaker 1: of Charlotmagne kids who nobody knows. And by the way,

432
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 1: I'm getting they're probably like under eighteen. It's different than

433
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 1: you have a relative like for example, I even example, right,

434
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 1: my mom. I just retired her UM and she told me,

435
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: she said, well, Son, you know I'm a Jamaican mom.

436
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: I gotta keep busy. I know you're gonna give me money,

437
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: this and third, but I need to do something. So

438
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: she told me, she said, I want to do a

439
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. And I'm talking her out of it. Hell no,

440
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: I said, hell, you know what I mean, unless you

441
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 1: can handle that, Unless you can handle it the slander

442
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: that your mom is gonna get because of you. But

443
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: it depends on what the channel. No no, no, she's

444
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: cooking cooking channel. No no, no, don't matter. They're they're

445
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna know it's my mom trust me. And

446
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: that's what the conversation is. I'm trying to say, Mom,

447
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: I've shielded my entire family from all the hate and

448
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: vitriol I get online because I signed up for this.

449
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: I would rather you not get into that life because

450
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: just off proximity to me, you're gonna have to deal

451
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: with some hate ridicule, And honestly, if you want to

452
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: be a public figure by now getting into this life,

453
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: it's fair game. So you know how I can control it,

454
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: my nah, Let's try and figure out something else. Because

455
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: the moment she started, she starts doing that. She's a

456
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: public figure, especially when you're sharing your life. So so

457
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: what dad said, you know, you wouldn't want somebody to

458
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: talk about your mom the way you might talk about

459
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: somebody other people. Right. No, it's not that I wouldn't

460
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: want them to talk about it, right, because that's not

461
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: the thing. It's just like, well, could you handle that though?

462
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: You heard somebody calling your mom to be work, Well,

463
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: if my mom is a public figure, I would absolutely

464
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: have to handle it. Yeah, absolutely, if she is a

465
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: public figure, yes, say my mom gets an argument, Say

466
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: my mom is becomes a public figure, and she's on

467
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: with these housewives shows. She loves those little shows, right,

468
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: and now she does something and whatever the air in

469
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: the chatter is is that they're calling my mom to

470
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: be word. By the nature of knowing what this comes

471
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: with it, we're all monetizing off our lives, our brands. Shit,

472
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: that's public. We're monetizing for the clicks. We're monetizing for

473
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: the conversation. Let's not be hypocrites to say you could

474
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: only control the conversation. You gotta keep it nice with

475
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: my mom's No, my mom gotta be able to handle

476
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: the number one. And by the way, it's much more

477
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: than me. Handler's my mom. I've had ten years of

478
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: training people, people coming about my weight all the time.

479
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm numb to it. I'm numb to it. At first,

480
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: I was in my feelings for real, of course, not

481
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: because they're excessive. Like all my people, they be all this.

482
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: It should be funny though, act and when I go

483
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: to your page, be funny and ship. But not for

484
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: black man, the black Man. You gotta lot some weight.

485
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: Stop drinking so much. Bro, you go no, no, not

486
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: not with a drinking. But you're definitely hard drinking. And

487
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: wait you got you got no. No the drinking. I

488
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: think it's decent the way what you mean blacking out?

489
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: Sometimes I keeps out on the screen. That's not because liquor.

490
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: Though I'm tired. Yo, I told you I sleep four

491
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: hours four hours a night, and I'll sleep two to

492
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: three in the middle of the day. That's why I

493
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: don't stream a nice. No more like my audience wants

494
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: me to streaming nice like even when when I slept,

495
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: I fell asleep. I fell asleep while I listened to

496
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: the Drake album You Not Drake hit Me and he said, yo,

497
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Drake hit me and say yo, act oh, please listen

498
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: to this one private. Least it don't go a stream

499
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: and do the first listen. But no, no, it was

500
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: it was a Little Boy Okay. I listened to it

501
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: once and on my stream we played again, so it

502
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: was the second listen and I fell asleep album. That

503
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: album was delayed. Bro, it's three forty five in the morning.

504
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: I were listening to music. That's nothing I would like

505
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: about me, Yo, three forty five in the morning. I

506
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: know I catered to super fans, but like, Bro, that's

507
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: why I'm tired, man, And like you know, you have

508
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: to be energetic the whole time. I'm like, man, I'm tired,

509
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: so I'm listening to the music so it's passive. I'm

510
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: not talking. There's no adrenaline kicking, and I'm like, I

511
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm sleeping. Sorry, right, let's go

512
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: back to the women think because me and you had

513
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: this convo a couple of years ago. I think it

514
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: was around the Chrissy teguing thing, and we was on

515
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: the phone talking and I was like, you know, and

516
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: I hate to see people making the same mistakes that

517
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, So I was telling you, like, yo, you

518
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: cannot be disrespecting these these women like you gotta go

519
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: easy with the bitches and the holes and this and that.

520
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: By the way, the Chrissy tigueing thing was, I believe,

521
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I think, very different than this. You know, I don't

522
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: even remember what it was well exactly that was aimed

523
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: at her, and that was definitely very like you know

524
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: you called too right, Yeah, it was hateful too, you

525
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that's the thing because

526
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: let's think about all these cloth kill worlds we use, right,

527
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: somebody might just be on some holistic ships to say,

528
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, should stop say nigga, but you could you

529
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: could use nigga an all type of different contexts, right,

530
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: same with the word bitch. It's a lot of people

531
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: who use bitch in a positive way, in a negative way.

532
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: When I used it for her, and that's why I

533
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: did apologize, it was very hateful, and it was because

534
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: I felt she slighted me. At one point, and at

535
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: that time I was just like super upset. How so um,

536
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, I hate to even

537
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: explain it. These are one of these things where like

538
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: I treat it almost like DV in a way. I

539
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: know I'm getting a little deep, but like, it don't

540
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: matter if short he hits you, you can't do nothing back.

541
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: You just gotta take it anyway. A couple of years before, um,

542
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: she says something to me, Oh, six nine just went

543
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: to jail. That's what happened. Just when a jail everybody's

544
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: getting their jokes in She throws up on her on

545
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: her on a Twitter a meme with me and six

546
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: nine looking sexual and basically putting out it like we

547
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: gay or something. Shit feel me not granted, I'm Jamaican,

548
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: I was born in Jamaican. I mean, that's not some

549
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: shit we you know, especially if it's not true. You know,

550
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: we have none against you know, people from the LGBTQ community.

551
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: But that was not true. And you also trying to

552
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: make a joke of you know somebody, I know that

553
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: when in jail, and also you're trying to you know,

554
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: put this out about me like whatever. She did it

555
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: like twice. I ain't saying nothing in the moment because

556
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: really and everybody roasting six nights, but it happened. But

557
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: I held it, and I held that until it all

558
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: came out that one night of the stream when I

559
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: saw John Legend flop and I'm seeing her tweet every

560
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: two days trying to cancel another motherfucker, and I'm like,

561
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: why don't you promote your man album, just like how

562
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you be on Twitter doing a whole lot of bullshit.

563
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: But obviously that's when those words came out. Now, granted,

564
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: and this is why I said. There was some growth,

565
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you. We we had a great

566
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: talk about that. There was some growth in the sense

567
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: of I know when when you know she was being

568
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: canceled as well, and I remember that everybody started circle

569
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: back around coming to me, but like, yo, what do

570
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: you feel about it? And I said, you know, having

571
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: being that person who that was another bad week, I

572
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: understood what she was going went through, you know what

573
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I understood like a lot of people were

574
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: laughing when she said, well, you know, I'm depressed, like

575
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: I have to turn my phone off, but I'm depressed

576
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: without it. And I felt bad for her more than

577
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, UM, thinking that, oh, you know what, finally

578
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: she's getting what you know I felt at that moment,

579
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: so you know, UM, in that sense, I was super

580
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: hateful with it. And that's the only reason why I

581
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: say it's different. Um. I think they're taking this one

582
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: a little bit out of context, just because yes, I

583
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: did use the word, which, by the way, it was

584
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: interesting when people did get mad at me. At first

585
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: some people were like, oh, it's because you were used

586
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: were bitch, and then everybody got everybody just saying bitch

587
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: all over the place, because it does matter the context.

588
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: It definitely does, right, and we can't all be like, oh, Aq,

589
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you said the word bitch. Let's just erase bitch. Because

590
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: here's the thing I'm down for. Any rules, is everybody

591
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna stop saying it? We should, well, all the rappers

592
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: stop rapping, and and and because by the way, here's

593
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: the thing, and I didn't want to flip it to

594
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: this angle. Neither the reason why I already said this

595
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: about the word nigga. I was born in Jamaica Spanish time, Jamaica.

596
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: The first time, the first time I cognizantly ever heard

597
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: the word nigga was in the United States of America,

598
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: and that ship has been littered in my vocabulary through

599
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: learning it socially, through music and other methods that you

600
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: get indoctrinated to it. Same with I won't say the

601
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: word bit soho, but but like no, I think we

602
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: also got to think about the cultural influences to why

603
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: when we're talking, why do we just constantly sprinkle these things?

604
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: They're like condiments to our conversation, to our theatrics. So granted,

605
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: I'll take certain blames, but if we are, we're gonna

606
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: have a bigger discussion about the words. Because a lot

607
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: of the times I heard that word being said, I

608
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: heard have been saying to my favorite Wayne Verse the

609
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: question have you spoke to Chrissy since then? Or are

610
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: youstion with toy? Because obviously she's upset and I'm sure

611
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: she would love to have a conversation with you. I

612
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: would love that conversation. I would love to have a

613
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: conversation with Chrissy. Well, well, I never talk to kids

614
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: about it, and I would love to have a conversation

615
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: with um um toya. And you didn't mean no, you

616
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: apologize to you calling her daughter bitch? Oh of course not.

617
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm cracking. I'm cracking some lighthearted jokes. I think she's

618
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: a I think she's a brilliant, fine young woman. I

619
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: don't think she's like she's this. I'm not trying to

620
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: be hateful. Have you apologized her yet? Though, I mean

621
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: in the sense of saying I'm sorry I use the

622
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: word at all. Yes, I mean, I'll apologize, and of

623
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: course I'm sorry, now the great there's no time like

624
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: the president, no no, if if she's taken it in

625
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: that sense offensively, I do apologize, But I do have

626
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: to say because I don't want to apologize for something

627
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't want the next time I

628
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: hear me say the word bitch, because it's used in

629
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: mad different contexts, I'm like, didn't you just apologize? I'll

630
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: be a hypocrite, so I'm not trying to hurt her feeling.

631
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: So that's the apology I'll give. I apologize if my

632
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: usage of that word, even though I try to attract it,

633
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: made you feeling type of way that was, and vice versa.

634
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: The people who are offended at act using that word,

635
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: especially the rappers, they should think about that too. Next

636
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: time they're in the studio and they write nay rhymes.

637
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: They don't want to have that conversation, but we should.

638
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I think now if I think neither times, I can't

639
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: push y'all got ya ya ya gotta wanna be t

640
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: Wards say yeah with the biggest platform. Hey, y'all start

641
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: that conversation. Let's see, because y'all could bring some of

642
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: these guys who don't respect me. They don't. They're rather just.

643
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna say with with Toya,

644
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I would love to, you know, have a conversation with her.

645
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: And I think I'm really having a conversation. I won't

646
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: say with her, but I think through a conduit. I

647
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: think that's why TI is stepping in. You get what

648
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean. But I've always been open a conversation with anyone.

649
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: They could check my track record. Usually it's people who say, oh,

650
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna talk to you. We'll put up a post,

651
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: but we won't. We don't want to, like, we don't

652
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: even want to engage in a conversation. Funk Flex and

653
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Slew the Flex. I don't if I'll be but but

654
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: Slot the Flex Flex call me. Had a whole conversation

655
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: with him. Pull me on text with a bunch of people,

656
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: it's like he's like, I want to bridge someone understanding.

657
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: And he also made a post on Instagram saying, Yo,

658
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to bridge some under standing through conversations. And

659
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what, the majority of people said, why the

660
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: fuck would you talk to that clown? What could you

661
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: at that point? What could you do? So if that's

662
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: how they see that, it puts me in a weird spot.

663
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Y'all are focused on what I say. Y'all care about

664
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: what I say. But if I and I always I

665
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: was telling my brother yesterday because he's like, yo, damn, YO,

666
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: you said something else, and I had to tell him.

667
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I do about maybe fifty hours fifty

668
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: to sixty hours of live audio or audio, you know,

669
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: whether it's YouTube, podcast, you know my news updates per week.

670
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: Extrapolate that to a year. I'm gonna say some shit that,

671
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, maybe I thought it was a joke.

672
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: People didn't think it was a joke. And I hope

673
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: to just deal with it as it goes. But there

674
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: is no way I could just not offend anyone in

675
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: this world, not now. I think. I think another thing

676
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: that's missing too, is like as rappers are just us

677
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: in hip hop have gotten older. You know when you

678
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: when you know better, you do better. You know, you

679
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: get older. We got kids, we get wiser. But the

680
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: problem is we haven't held ourselves accountable for the things

681
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: that we used to do or used to say that

682
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: may be influencing a thirty year old person like yourself.

683
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: But also that's why when we had the conversation on that,

684
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard it, the first thing

685
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I said was we need to talk to him. Let's

686
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: let's call him up and bring him up here and

687
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: have that conversation, because that's what I did, Remember I

688
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: told you, But I did the same thing because I

689
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: felt the same way. I was upset about something and

690
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I used it. So I'm never upset with somebody. I

691
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: always want to know why, huh. Now. I used to

692
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: call it when me and Flex and everybody was gonna

693
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: I used to call him old in that and Kickapre

694
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: pulled up on me and was like, bro, we all

695
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: have ages. We all get to a point. You never

696
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: want to box somebody else. We all a birthday, we

697
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: all got a birthday. It stuck with me and I

698
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: was like, you're right, I'll never say that again. You know,

699
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I'll go at anybody well, but I'll never use that

700
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: age again, call them dusty or whatever it may be,

701
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: because you can't be mad at somebody for not having

702
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: the knowledge, because it's got to be confusing when rappers

703
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: start telling rappers start coming at you for using the

704
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: B word because then you're like, well, when did the

705
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: memo go out there? We're not using the B word

706
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: no more in hip hop? Correct? You know? So I

707
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: want to go back to also meek mil why don't

708
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: you meet meal get along? Where did that start? I

709
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: made me cool? Y'are good? Now? We're good? Now? No,

710
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: I believe we're good. You never know, so a wise

711
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: man told me. Man, listen, you don't ever know if

712
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: you're really good with someone to you see them in person.

713
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But didn't talk watch that

714
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: everything that you had. Yeah, so I want to think

715
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: and these are people, you know. I hope to do

716
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: this for other people too. You know, some people think

717
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm an agitator, but you know, in the last year

718
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: when I've been able to try to bridge gaps or

719
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: like you know, put two people on the phone or whatever,

720
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: like I try. You know, I mean, shit, I did

721
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: it with you know lad at least trap of which

722
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: random beef, Like I try to help men that I

723
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: was trying to help this you know, NBA young boy

724
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: in UM not Dirk, but the NBA young boy in

725
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: UM Kodak situation. UM, because like, especially when you're playing

726
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: phone tag almost one saying this one saying that, I'm like, yo, listen,

727
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: is there a way we could put it together? So

728
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I've always kind of been been that time of person.

729
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: UM twenty one Savage did something. I thought it was

730
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: very dope, and he gave me this explanation. He said, Yo,

731
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: I think it was getting to a point. He's like

732
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: when two friends are going at it, if it goes

733
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: far enough, you got to pick a side. And he

734
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: basically said it was going it was going to a

735
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: point where he was going to be forced to like, yore,

736
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: you're really rocking with this nigga accord or you're rocking

737
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: over here, you know what I mean. And he put

738
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: us on the phone, and I got a slew to

739
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: Meek as well, because I don't think a younger Meek

740
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Mill would have been on the phone with me, and

741
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: I think Meek has shown a little bit of growth

742
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: so I was down to have a conversation with him.

743
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: For like four or five years, you know what I mean,

744
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: Like we've been on dms, but it's never been like

745
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: a real conversation. We did have a real conversation, and

746
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: it was one of like, you know, um, let's stop

747
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: the petty bullshit to each other and let's if if

748
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be going all the way with it,

749
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: let's try to mend and build towards something that could

750
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: be like amicable. And don't mean that we're going to

751
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: be best friends in the club popping bottles, but we

752
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: shouldn't be at each other's next, especially when you know,

753
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: not necessarily, like our paths have to intertwine, you know

754
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. So again I thought I was a

755
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: grown man discussion and I enjoyed it, and I appreciate

756
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: twenty one Savage for facilitating. But did somebody come to

757
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: your house and leave a note in your mailbox? Yeah?

758
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: That bumass singer Rory Man. So all right, so you're

759
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Rory of Beef and he came to your house. We

760
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: were beef. What's beef though? I mean, somebody come to

761
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: your house is beef? Okay? Somebody coming to thank you,

762
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. Come to the house. Okay, not only is

763
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: the dog coming out? Yeah, I'm letting everything out. That

764
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: dog is coming. I'm letting So what happened in that? Yeah?

765
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: So no so to me. And that's another thing I've realized.

766
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: This is strength of Like when I'm on live stream,

767
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: I treat it like eventually I was telling shows. I

768
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: was like, one day, I want to get up on

769
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: stage because sometimes I'll be watching my own streams back.

770
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm funny as fuck, you know what I mean. So

771
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm on there, I'm roasting everybody, and sometimes people have

772
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: a disagreement. But I don't want you to die or

773
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill you. I don't want to

774
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: thrink your life. But I got some jokes maybe, like

775
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I want to just cloud your

776
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: beard or your chain or whatever the cases. So I'm

777
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: clowning these guys, right. It was ruing this other dude

778
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: name me Lym on whatever there was Joe Bunn's employees,

779
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: and the jokes were staying so crazy, and I the

780
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: whole time, I'm thinking, what if they feel that offense,

781
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna respond this mad things to cloud me about

782
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: like come on, like, if you can't clown me, it's

783
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: just not creative. Didn't respond over a while, so I'm

784
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: over here. I'm just having a good time. I'll showed

785
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: one time to my mailbox, see a Hallmark card and

786
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: it had like some very interesting notation, was like hey,

787
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: happy boss today. And I was calding these dudes workers

788
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: and stooges for a long time. They signed the thing

789
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: and says, oh, sincerely a stooge or whatever the case is.

790
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: This time, me and Meeker going at the tour and

791
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: there's other rappers. Because I'm always like, you know, respond

792
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: to some rappers. I have no idea who this is.

793
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Who did this? Right, even though there was some kind

794
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: of hints like damn, who did this? I look at

795
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: my security cameras. Thank god, that's the first one I

796
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: bought my house, the first thing I did. I got

797
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: the best security cameras, absolutely alive. Anyway, I see a

798
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: fucking Kia pull into my cul de sac, a Kia,

799
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: fucking Kia, my nigga, like a Kia Sorrento or something

800
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: like that. Nigga. The only thing, the only thing that

801
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: was a little weird. I'm like, yo, the maids usually

802
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: don't show up on this day. I'm like, this, ain't

803
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the postman, you know what I mean? Like this, So

804
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the Kia drives up and it drives right by my mailbox,

805
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: so there's a long driveway down right, so it's not

806
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: like he's knocking on my door. It actually doesn't even

807
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: enter the property. But like FedEx or whoever, it could

808
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: just drop up of shit in the mailbox. They the

809
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: door swings open. I see fucking ginger headed dude just

810
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of pop out and he reaches in, opens the mailbox,

811
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: puts the thing in, and then the car tries to

812
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: speed off, but it's a kya so it's taking a

813
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: while to spool up. But I'm like, oh, that's the

814
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: dude still doesn't say anything because I'm trying to figure

815
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: out how should I handle it, you know what I mean.

816
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of things, by the way, you know,

817
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't bring everything to the internet as much as

818
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: people think I do. There's been people who have. There's

819
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: been a lot of threats or situations that I'm just

820
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: not gonna run on line, like let me just show

821
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: you what's going on. You gotta handle the situation personally.

822
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: And probably first I guess he was trying to threaten me.

823
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: So one day he tweeted at me and I get

824
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: back to roast in him, and he started doing the

825
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: weirdest shit, which he's just self snitched on himself. He

826
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: tweeted out my zip code in five tweets with the

827
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: first number of the tweet being one number of where

828
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I live, basically been go I know you live at

829
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: and also the Stews actually even signed the lyric steoge.

830
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: So at that point, I just, you know, all the

831
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: best are off. You know, um gangsters man. Not mean

832
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't show up to your house. I'm trying to

833
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: kill you. That's what I'm saying. Like, God, that's how

834
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: I would have to take it. If you pull up

835
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: to my house. I have to think it's a threat.

836
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: That's why when did with your arms or whatever you did,

837
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: I gotta think it's a threat, an active threat. And

838
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: then when I talk to them dudes, and it was

839
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: just this was just the most It's the most, even

840
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: though I got to call it the most pussy thing

841
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, because he was like, you know, I'm

842
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: going hard at him still, you know, um, there's some

843
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: other stuff that happened. Apparently you know, he was like engaged.

844
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, his side chick happen to

845
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: come over to the crib one time. You know what

846
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean, My man's piped his side. It was a

847
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. His relationship got broken up.

848
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff anyway, I guess you know

849
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. He wanted to like try to resolve it,

850
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: and we were talking through a few mutual people because

851
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: he wanted to talk to me. That's what I heard.

852
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: Um directly. I just wasn't withining them. You can't show

853
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: to my house and like then you're like, let's talk

854
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: if I drop a pipe bomb on the steps to

855
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: your house and then you happily or luckily like, don't

856
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: refuse it. I can't hit your playing like your envy.

857
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, bro. No, so Um I said,

858
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't have conversations with a man who's

859
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: doing these type of thing. You don't even know who

860
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: lives at my house. Say my MoMA lived there, Say

861
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: like an older relative, say there's kids there. You're playing

862
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: a dangerous game. He's gonna he's gonna tell a person. Yo.

863
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't me that did it. It was really my girl.

864
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: My girl got guying these killers who want acts head

865
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: all type of dumb shit, and just a matter of

866
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: fact that not acknowledging that it's you and blaming on

867
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: your girl, I just realized its just some weak shit man.

868
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: So you know, Um that didn't make you think about

869
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: how you move differently though, because you know, if it's

870
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: that easy for somebody to find out where you live

871
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: and pull up on you, of course I think about

872
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: that every day. Um shit, shit happens all the time.

873
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: You know. My usually my people around me, like my family,

874
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: they'll be more spooped. But you know, I just try

875
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: to just move a little bit better. And you know, again,

876
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: we are making conscious decisions for this life. That's that's

877
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: one thing. You know. I learned that from you, because

878
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, again, I could have also just ran to

879
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere and just lived in a bunker.

880
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: But um shit, I like a couple of nice cars. Shit,

881
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: I bought some jurry Like nigga, you're gonna have to

882
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: deal with some consequences or you're gonna have to adjust

883
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're okay now. Joe Button also

884
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: criticized you releasing the PMB interview yeah, a couple of

885
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: days after his passing. Yeah, what were your thoughts on that?

886
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: Joe's my man, And I think I think Joe primarily

887
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: did that because he just got an Adam twenty two.

888
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: I think Adam dropped like a video like someone died

889
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: and he put like a video with the guy who

890
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: like meet the guy who killed blah blah blah. Right,

891
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: and I thought I think Joe was saying that was

892
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: tasteless among other things when dealing with death. Um, I

893
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: think this was completely different. So PM b Rock, you know,

894
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: tragically and unfortunately, you know, passed away in lad Yeah,

895
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: when somebody try to like, you know, rob him. The

896
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: same week, we do an interview where he's talking about

897
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: a similar situation that almost happened. I remember asking, I said,

898
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: so damn, why do you think that happened like that?

899
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: He's like, man, I don't know the timing of it.

900
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I think number one, it was newsworthy, So so it's different.

901
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't like when people are just trying to monetize

902
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: off death, but I think that's newsworthy. That's adds to

903
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: what's going on, because maybe this just isn't random. Oh

904
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean it's it's not even it's

905
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: not even a hip hop thing. Every media outlet does this.

906
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's CNN, NBC, ABC. When somebody

907
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: passes away, they got their mintages and packages and old

908
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: videos and pictures and old interviews. Everybody does it. I

909
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: think I think in hip hop media, um, I like

910
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: to say new and independent media is treats. It's differently

911
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: because Revolt could run you know what I mean, the

912
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: oldest interview or freestyle they have of P and B Rocking.

913
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of like they're paying homage, you know what

914
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're showing love. If you do the same,

915
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: they're thinking, oh, you're making man money off of him,

916
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: like you just exploiting. So I do think there's a

917
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: new state of the TV networks. What do you think

918
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: advertising advertisings are When they do these specials where they

919
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: played the funeral back or they send for Queen Elizabeth,

920
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: they sent all their journalists over to the UK, like

921
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: it's the same thing what we do, or like what

922
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm successful they're doing. And I like to call it

923
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I want to Draymond Graem myself on some new media ship.

924
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: But I do think these new platforms are becoming so popular.

925
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Like some people are looking at certain podcasts or just

926
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: certain blogs or certain you know, certain YouTube channels as oh,

927
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: these are like they're almost as loud, you know, at

928
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: least within certain aspects of the culture like a revolt,

929
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: And I think people are extra critical of them because

930
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you also can see a face to it, you know,

931
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, even though the d he is kind of

932
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: face revolt, it still a whole corporation. You don't even

933
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: think about some of the stuff that you think about.

934
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: When act post is it right posts? You're like, oh shit,

935
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: so you mean the act just made this decision. And

936
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: also for whatever reason, people feel like it's wrong that

937
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: people in new media make money. I don't know what

938
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: it is, you know what I mean. So it's like again,

939
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: I try, I try to understand it from their point

940
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: of view. Like for me, I would never exploit in

941
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: the sense of, um, there's where you could be you

942
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: could exploit, like you know what I mean. For example,

943
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: if I if I had a moment or a negative

944
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: moment of that said artist, and if we're passing it,

945
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna show remembrance. And I'm just throwing that back

946
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: up just to get some clicks because now everybody want

947
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: to get I think that's exploited. I wouldn't. I looked

948
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: at it from a different perspective too. It's like, you know,

949
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: God bless the brother PN b Rock. But you know,

950
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: at the time, musically he wasn't like popping, but you

951
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: still sat down with him and you still had a

952
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: conversation with him. I didn't see nobody else doing that.

953
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's another thing. And this is why you know,

954
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: I was left kind of um. I was torn on

955
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: that because you know, there's so many people who or

956
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: who were fake when it comes to that shit. Yo.

957
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I sat on the phone with P and B like

958
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: they just got off Atlantic Atlantic dropping mad people. They

959
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: just got off Atlantic, like bare bones, completely independent. You know,

960
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: we set this interview up for months. We've been talking

961
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: through like Yo, he's like, Yo, he's playing this comeback,

962
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Nobody's fucking with him, Artists

963
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: who used to be popping bottles in a club where

964
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: they ain't fucking when they tell him, literally, you ain't

965
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: hot right now, you know what I mean? Nobody wants

966
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: to be associated with him. If you watch the whole interview,

967
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: he's like you'll act. One thing I do like about you.

968
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: You just always supporting me. Twenty and eighteen, when I

969
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: dropped my album when everybody was like, oh this ain't

970
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: this ain't the best shit, and I didn't do that

971
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: well you want everyday struggle. At the end of the year,

972
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: Recap told hm, not this one of the hardest albums.

973
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: This shit is fire. I'm you support me legit legitimately.

974
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: Right once he dies, everybody's now like, you know, like

975
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: like they were caring about PNB Rock mad pretentious, you

976
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, but I don't want that

977
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: to be the subject of the conversation because it is

978
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: really you know, a young black man lost his life.

979
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: That's the most important thing. But there's a lot of

980
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: people who are really pretentious with that, you know what

981
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're acting like I just hold a

982
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: P and b Rock interview out of my ass from

983
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: when he was popping and no none, no platform. He

984
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: was telling me these things on the phone. Oh yeah,

985
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean I was supposed I was supposed to do

986
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: interviews with them. They said, now, not at the right time.

987
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so send me the music. I'm

988
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: changing the shit out. It's like, damn, what the features are.

989
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: It's like, damn that nigga. He used to give me

990
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: back a feature back in the day. Now they talked

991
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: about some loud amount of money because they don't do

992
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: swap store more. Um, yeah, people switched up on him,

993
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I see all those people

994
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: still throw up the picture of R and P. Everything's cool,

995
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Then just just let it go.

996
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: Let's go back to Let's go back to some of

997
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: the stuff from last week. Like, because the one thing

998
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: I saw people keep saying is you know what his

999
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: academics done for the culture? How would you answer that question? Um,

1000
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a hard question for me to

1001
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: answer because I don't know if they value what what

1002
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: I know I've done. You know, so what is it?

1003
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I've provided a platform? I think music these days has changed.

1004
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: The mere fact that people in artists like NBA Young Boy,

1005
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: the mere fact that drill is even gone to the

1006
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: places is gone the UK, Toronto, New York. It's like

1007
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: one of the biggest and most recognized, recognizable genres and

1008
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: most infectious genres in the world. There was a time

1009
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: that there was no media outlet really pushing it and

1010
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: really kind of like showing these stories and really telling

1011
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: you know people what was really going on with not

1012
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: only the popular arts, but these other artists as well.

1013
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: That's where my platform always got this, you know, um um,

1014
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: I always always got my come up. I realized y'all,

1015
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: y'all talk about Drake, y'all talked about Kanye. Y'all got

1016
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: a bigger platform at least at that time. So I'm like, yo,

1017
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: I can't compete with y'all, So what could I do

1018
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: to be unique? Look for the place in the market

1019
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: that nobody was talking about. You rappers like Little Ouzy,

1020
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: little Yati Man, I was covering their lives daily. I'm going,

1021
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: let's let's put these guys up. I remember everyone said, yo,

1022
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: SoundCloud rapper, that would be a fad. I'm covering the

1023
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: Cardis of the world. Cardies just closed Rolling Aloud yesterday.

1024
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: UZI was at in one of the biggest you know,

1025
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: um sets at Rolling Aloud. Like they're the biggest artists

1026
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: in this culture. And that's why they fuck with you

1027
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: the way that they do because you supported them from

1028
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: day one, which which is what I always said about actors,

1029
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: like you can go back and look at acts page

1030
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: ten years ago, eleven years ago. I've been following them

1031
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: that long. These guys didn't have dreads, they didn't have tattoos,

1032
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: but not someone big in the world would say, well,

1033
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: how do you give back to the culture? Right, So

1034
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: how would you answer that? Well, I mean it's not

1035
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: it's not providing a platform for dudes who are trying

1036
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: to get out of certain situations and trying to further themselves,

1037
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: um in their career to help their family giving back,

1038
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: Like what sense of giving back is it is? It

1039
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: is just because but don't I didn't make a sizeable

1040
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: donation to anybody, like sizable donation. But like you said

1041
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: about you know, some of the as you put it,

1042
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: dusty old old rappers, and that they don't necessarily give

1043
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: back to the other people who are coming up to

1044
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: explain in the breakdown the business. Oh yeah, that's that's

1045
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: about a third or what I do. I remember sitting

1046
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: back and wondering, yea, these niggas talking about their record contract,

1047
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: But how that look Like I created a rap parody

1048
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: um thing called a little act that I could actually

1049
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: go get signed, that I could actually like I got

1050
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: a JV to make sure because I don't want to

1051
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: be I remember back in the day when Ryan Clark

1052
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: looked at like skip baylists or like he was Steven A.

1053
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Smith and basically said, y'all, I think he's never played

1054
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: no ball, like how it was j Yeah, yeah, I

1055
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: think he's never played no ball. Like how are we

1056
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: going to listen to the nigga who's just the guy

1057
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: in the stands? So I tried my best to understand

1058
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: the game. And if you ask a lot of these

1059
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: new artists, who who is that just interview recently, I

1060
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Boy Rich or somebody else,

1061
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: but they were like, yo, you helped, you broke down

1062
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: the game for me and gave me a blueprinted understanding

1063
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: the ship when that seems so foreign and just far fetched.

1064
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: So like, that's I think what my contribution is. For example, recently,

1065
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: like the whole future selling as masters shit, you know

1066
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, young um not masters publishing. Young Boy

1067
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: just signed some deal that that's kind of has some

1068
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: of the same same elements. And I'm explaining to these

1069
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: people why. I know we all preach ownership, ownership shit, right,

1070
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: but there are smart moves that people do in the industry,

1071
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: and I explained to how it makes sense. That's that's

1072
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: what I think. Music education. I don't think there's nobody

1073
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: else who and especially I'm not an artist. I've given

1074
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: more music and business education than I can't. Is it

1075
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: legitimate though, Like everything I'm saying is legit. I'm not

1076
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: just capping. Every artist calls me on it. They call

1077
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: me first of all, I'm getting when you get information

1078
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: from most of these artists and executives. These these executives,

1079
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: they'll tell me, no one wants to ruin that situation.

1080
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: No one wants to, you know, because they don't get

1081
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: paid for talking. I do. So I get on the

1082
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: phone with these executives. I had to you know, many

1083
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: people I talked about when I had to figure out

1084
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: what's going to Atlantic? Why is meat milling out signed?

1085
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: There no more? Why is cod that Black about to

1086
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: be a free agent? Why did P and b Rock

1087
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: get dropped? PM? B Rock was not originally on Empire.

1088
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to say, oh, Empire is getting artist. No,

1089
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: he's an Atlantic artist, NBA young boy? Why did they

1090
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: tell that, young man? And I'm getting from the source

1091
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: like the guys I'm talking even sometimes your lawyers. Why

1092
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: why did Atlantic basically tell Young Boy listen after twenty

1093
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: two albums that you dropped in in a time period

1094
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 1: where we only contracted you to do five. Hey, we'll

1095
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: negotiate and give you this amount of money, but we

1096
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: didn't give you a motherfucking party of master's back. These

1097
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: are real things. What does that mean? When young Boy started,

1098
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: he's seventeen, he's twenty two. Now you want to say,

1099
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: what the fun going on? He's just putting out music.

1100
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: It took a team to be around him now. He

1101
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: just started. And that's why he loves Burdman so much.

1102
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: Even though you know you can say whatever about Burman.

1103
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Burnman helped him understanding and his team as well. Bro,

1104
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: you know you just satisfy you theoretic who you satisfied

1105
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: contract four times? They're eating crazy off of you. Look

1106
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: how they own your YouTube money, They own this this.

1107
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: These are things that to a seventeen year old coming

1108
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: in the game, that was like when he got in

1109
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: the games, um NBA. Young Boy was an artist who

1110
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: got a suspended ten years sentence for being in a

1111
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: drive by. He not thinking about well, this is what

1112
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: a music contract looks like. This is how I should

1113
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: do it. No, he's just you fucking I'm hid here.

1114
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: He signs to a label and the label is seeing

1115
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: ten times what they even bargained from from him. Forget

1116
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,959
Speaker 1: the negotiation power. He doesn't even know what it means.

1117
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm talking about when it comes to

1118
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: music education, like we should, we should, we should. I remember,

1119
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: for the longest I was confused about the difference between

1120
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: masters and publishing. You get me, Okay, how do you

1121
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: gets paid from Spotify? Break all these ship down? Do

1122
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: you think that the things you've done to quote unquote

1123
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: offend people, overshadow the lane you've called it for yourself? No,

1124
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: And I was close to saying yes, but I would

1125
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: say no just off the fact of I think it's

1126
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: because of how I came in the game and what

1127
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, how I came in the game. It wasn't traditional. Um,

1128
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: it still feels outside of ish to the majority of

1129
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: people who whom would would voice the descent of the paion.

1130
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, I feel what he's saying. If you come

1131
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: up in a certain space like radio, it's like a

1132
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: validation that comes with that. Yeah, like your authority exactly,

1133
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So they still look at me,

1134
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: and I remember even shit, even with media, there's some

1135
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: of the biggest hip hop stories that I broke and

1136
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: people would be like, well, well, they'll report the same

1137
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: thing later. But we ain't gonna believe him because he

1138
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: ain't TMC, or we ain't gonna believe him because he

1139
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: not you know, double Cell, And why is that the case?

1140
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I have like, there's nobody

1141
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: double Cell with more reached to artists than me. I'm

1142
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: talking to these actual people I'm putting in the work.

1143
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: It just it looks different though the optics are very

1144
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: different when I say it, than them. So you know

1145
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're talking about krizzy tigue and slighting

1146
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: you earlier. Do you have any animosity towards just the industry?

1147
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: Because you might, you might feel like so many of

1148
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: these people did front on you. Yo, I told you

1149
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: this one day though. I told Sharman, I said, listen,

1150
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: like I use these things as motivation. I needed it,

1151
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: fused me like it for the moments I want to

1152
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: sleep eight hours now, I'm sleeping forward just because I

1153
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: remember that motherfucker trying to slip me. I'm glad it happened,

1154
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: But I use this feeling motivation now. Granted I am petty,

1155
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: so don't think ten years later we're being like, oh okay,

1156
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: he's just no. But I think we all do it

1157
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: if somebody like you know, didn't you know? And one

1158
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: thing's like it's an honest mistake, right, Like say a

1159
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: great artist emails you a record like every play the

1160
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: shit you you overlooked or you didn't see it like

1161
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: you probably a million emails, right, and then later that

1162
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: artist brings it up to you. Oh should I don't

1163
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: see it? Cool. It's different than you're like, man, this

1164
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: niggas whack, right, and then he pops off. He's always

1165
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna remember that you called him whack and if and

1166
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: if he wants to like I don't know, say you're

1167
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: doing a party or whatever you want, you want to

1168
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: book him, it's like nigga's double the price. Remember you

1169
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: want this whack ass artist, And I understand it. You

1170
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: gotta understand it. So of course I do. I use

1171
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: all those things as motivation and m but you gotta

1172
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: understand the pettinesses on the other side too, because you

1173
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: got the microphone and you could say something I'm but

1174
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: you said the breakfast Club is gonna be over. No

1175
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: see he said something like that. You didn't say something

1176
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: about the No no no no no no no. I

1177
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: didn't say somebody, but I'll repeat it. So I said this,

1178
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: I said, Um, I was commented when Angela said that

1179
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: the well she said it's over as you know it,

1180
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: And I said, listen. Radio is a dying format, and

1181
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: even as I sit here, I'll still maintain that point

1182
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: of dying format. I said, this is the last legendary

1183
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: radio show. There will be none after this. Like this

1184
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: is everybody. It will be happening in different mediums. It's

1185
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: happening now. Look at drink Champs COmON. I's worth the game, right, Um?

1186
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I said, if I was on radio, I would leave.

1187
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: So not because I'm calling the platform that's dying, not

1188
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: because I'm calling a platform dying. I didn't say none

1189
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: of y'all should have left, you know what I mean.

1190
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, if i'm you, I'm ryning's been to

1191
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: the wheel fall off? So are you? Y'all put in

1192
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: a lot of sweat and equity and blood equity into

1193
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm sticking with this. However, these days, culturally,

1194
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: if we're talking about justin content. The majority of of

1195
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: of um relevant talking points or content pieces comes from

1196
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of other places. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, listen,

1197
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: the radio still has the most reach. We cover ninety

1198
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: eight percent of the country, but I will say I

1199
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: feel like it has the least impact. Yeah, and I

1200
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: think what radios, what radio's places, and this and this aratically,

1201
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: we'll talk too, Definitely talk, definitely talk because like he

1202
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: said about, you know a lot of us using clips

1203
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: from other platforms. A lot of platforms use our clips

1204
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah. Yeah, but that's We're an exception. But

1205
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: that's what that's the point. The point is now. The

1206
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: point is now. I think that radio is really the

1207
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: ultimate amplifier. It's the compliment to everything that's going on now.

1208
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: Like when it comes to personalities, podcasts will leading that,

1209
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to music, screaming services, leading that, when

1210
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: it comes to shows, festivals of leading that, you know

1211
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, when it comes to breaking news, social media.

1212
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: The only thing radio can do is be the ultimate

1213
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: compliment and amplify to all those things. Correct, Yeah, yeah,

1214
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I didn't say I was over there.

1215
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: Don't try to put me in the mall box, like

1216
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: I know you'll try to use as no I mean,

1217
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean I heard him say that before too. And

1218
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, the funny thing is, is you think you petty.

1219
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: I think there's nobody petty than me, Like we probably

1220
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: we probably the same petty party. Charlomagne knows that. But

1221
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, my whole thing is, if you think something

1222
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: is over, don't call and say I want to get

1223
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: on that platform that I think it's whack or you

1224
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I just honestly don't. But I

1225
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: like the SPA. I mean, I like to compete, but

1226
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I also like to

1227
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: have conversations. I like to see brothers doing well. I

1228
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: like to see brothers getting money, and I like to

1229
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: help if I can help, Like you know, that's why

1230
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: I do the real estate so much. I figured it out.

1231
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: I do great in real estate. So if I can

1232
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: help somebody and show them to wait and I don't

1233
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't have to charge you. I just want to

1234
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: see you win. That's why I'm able to do it.

1235
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: That's why I asked about what are you doing outside

1236
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: of forget the financial donations, but explaining breaking it down?

1237
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: Question that me and him didn't get like nobody taught us.

1238
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: We have to figure it out, bump out heads a

1239
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: couple of times, and then I did. I did have people.

1240
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: I did have people you know that helped me definitely

1241
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: on the way up though, and gamey game, I can

1242
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: say that. But by the way, also like not only

1243
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: with music, right because again remember I'm not a musician,

1244
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: but like even in media, like shit, I see a

1245
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: bunch of people trying to figure it out themselves too.

1246
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: And I understood just like when you know, Charlomanne was

1247
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: at that place of telling a young me like whatever whatever,

1248
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: like this this is dude, right, this is dude. Like

1249
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: everybody was like yo, this is like this is the

1250
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: carbon copy of academics. And you know maybe at a

1251
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: different time and everyone they couldn't wait from to speak

1252
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: on they're like, yo, you gotta just like yeah, they're

1253
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: like they just wanted me to just like this this

1254
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: guy that they could be like ah, yes, we were

1255
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: rocking with And I remember there was a time Charlomayne

1256
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: call me and you say, your bro, I'm listening to

1257
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: your content. See you're getting better to sent third but

1258
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm I ain't gonna lie a lot of times. Sometimes

1259
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: when I hear you doing certain ship sound like me,

1260
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: you gotta find Joe Lane, And I was it was

1261
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: confused for a second, but I took it as positive,

1262
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, constructive, you know, criticism, And I was like,

1263
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out me. So this this guy who's

1264
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: coming up, I know he's gonna find himself right now.

1265
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: We signed at a little bit like me and I

1266
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: remember there was a quote from like Quincy Jones was like, yo,

1267
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: a lot of great musicians, like you know, they they play, uh,

1268
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: they copied someone else before they find himself or something

1269
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: like that. I can't remember. It was really really dope

1270
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: quote books and um, I'm allowing him to grow, you know,

1271
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: Um it's gonna happen. So the same way with I

1272
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: used the same echo as Clue, Like he was the

1273
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: person that was from Queens or lived across the street

1274
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: from me. He was the one that as a DJ,

1275
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to be. So you wound up following that,

1276
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: not knowing that you're following it because you're just happy

1277
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh shit, I started using his echo,

1278
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: his his mannerisms, and then you realize, no, I gotta

1279
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: find mysel what fun? What fuck? The rant though, Like

1280
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: when you did make the comments about the old the

1281
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: Pioneer is like, did you meet someone that made you

1282
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: think that? Like what's part that? Um, I don't remember

1283
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: exactly who it was that kind of have an idea.

1284
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: But I don't even want to call him out because

1285
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: not even be like, oh, you're just calling this one

1286
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: guy broken dusty, okay, because it wasn't. It wasn't like

1287
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: I was trying to sum everybody up. It was it

1288
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: was at match two definitely one. I'm looking at this guy.

1289
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, this broke dusty motherfucker. He came up to

1290
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: you like yo, no, no, no, no, I'm consuming content.

1291
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of these dudes now they

1292
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: alloy I love it. I love it. I love that

1293
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: former rappers or even current rappers get all these platforms

1294
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: and talk like I love it, And um, it was

1295
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: just an older guy. It was just just all hate

1296
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: towards like what the newer guys were doing and mad

1297
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: criticizing like yo, why would he do this? And I'm like,

1298
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: so I'm looking up this dude. I'm looking up his

1299
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: time in the music business and what people were saying

1300
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: about him. You got fucking all yo deals. But now

1301
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: you see the new guy. He might be making mistakes,

1302
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: not saying not, but you never you never sat them

1303
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: down to be like yo, listen, this is how they

1304
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: got me. How about you do these things differently. You're

1305
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: criticizing the sound of me, you're criticizing everything around it.

1306
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: You think that new young kid go listen to you.

1307
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: He's looking at you like, man, it's broke. That's he.

1308
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: Dude right here, who never ever taught me is now

1309
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: trying to scold me. I get what you're saying. It

1310
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: goes back to that Muhammad I leave quote myhum when

1311
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali says, you know, if if I don't have

1312
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: the rolls Royce and I don't have the jewelry, he

1313
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: might not listen to me the same. I get what

1314
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: you're saying. But I've always told you, man, you can't

1315
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: put too much stock in money in youth because you're

1316
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: not gonna always be the youngest person. Agree, Oh you're

1317
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: not thirty one. Yeah, to an eighteen year old, you're

1318
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: old hit, but you're not always gonna be the richest.

1319
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, I don't think

1320
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm lychou at all ever, you got all the money.

1321
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: I see them cars really shit. That's one thing I

1322
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: had to accept, Like I want to say, like four

1323
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: or five years ago, and I just want to age

1324
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: gracefully though, like I just kind of, you know, whatever,

1325
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: I kind of get into, you know, sometimes sometimes I

1326
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: want to get him a little political bag. And even

1327
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 1: though you know, I think right now I'm a little

1328
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: bit immature with my political commentary, but I sprinkle that

1329
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: in and I watched my audience, but also, like it comes,

1330
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna get back what you've been putting out.

1331
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean? So once you get older, it's

1332
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna be some young boy kicking your back in calling

1333
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: you no no, the old and Dusty two. But I

1334
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: won't be stepping on their toes. I'm not gonna I'm

1335
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: not gonna see the guy, like say, the guy who

1336
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: when I say people comparing to me. I'm not gonna

1337
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: see him get to a point in his career where

1338
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: he can make a big move or whatever. And maybe

1339
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: the same type of forking the road that I was at.

1340
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: And if I never put my hand around him and

1341
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: gave him some game, if you make it the same

1342
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: mistake I made or say like you did a Christy

1343
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: team and they be like, man, you're stupid motherfucker. I'm

1344
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: not gonna do that because I'm gonna understand that, Like, bro,

1345
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: you made those mistakes. You gotta allow him to make

1346
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: his right. So I don't want to ever be the

1347
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: old dude, right Broke, Dusty or Rich just pointing at

1348
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: the young dude was criticizing them when you never you

1349
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: never try to school them, You never passed down no game,

1350
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: and now you're just looking like you're on the porch

1351
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: criticizing them to look at you. I hear, gang bang,

1352
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: it used to be doing the same shit, would just

1353
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: call something different, you know what I mean. So that's

1354
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: my point. Do you think it's a ceiling on what

1355
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: you do? Because I said, everybody got a birthday and

1356
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: at some point you all gonna be the old guy

1357
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: in hip hop. If you think there's a ceiling, um, No,

1358
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: Because what I believe I do and what people think

1359
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: I do and what I want to do or three

1360
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: different things. What do you believe you do? So I

1361
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: believe I'm a broadcaster and a platform owner. People believe

1362
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm just a twitch nigga. What I want to do

1363
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: is I want to develop a platform, and that's much

1364
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: more important than it won't be forever people are hearing

1365
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: my voice. It might be it might be another person

1366
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: just coming to my network. You want your own choice,

1367
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: want your own and and and that's where I feel

1368
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: like you know me right now as a personality. I'll

1369
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: say this. I always wanted to be on the Breakfast Club.

1370
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: Like when I was coming, I was like, damn, I wish.

1371
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: But I was like, damn, it's them three they ain't.

1372
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: I had no fourth, and damn you probably not in

1373
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: a long line of people. You ain't never internal radio,

1374
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: never did all these things which you're traditionally how are

1375
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: you kind of get in the space. So I was like, yo, damn,

1376
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: how do I get on? And I always tell rappers this,

1377
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: if I made my own platform when I couldn't find

1378
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: a platform to go on, like if I got hired

1379
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: on these stations, I'm not me. And once I made

1380
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: my platform, I remember, I remember que from World Star

1381
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: came to me. It was like, yo, Ac, Yo, we'll

1382
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: pay you this amount of money, just come work for us.

1383
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: You do world Star News. And I saw enough value

1384
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: in me having my platform. I said, Noah, I ain't

1385
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna do that. But that's how I came up with

1386
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: the idea of having a platform. So I look at

1387
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: myself as platform first, even though I'm the face of it.

1388
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: My face is driving it. But at some at some time,

1389
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: the platform is supposed to live on. And you know,

1390
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: even now as I'm you know, like shit out, we

1391
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: own a few studios like in you know, Jersey City,

1392
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to build out you know, some podcasts

1393
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: and stuff, probably either network or not, maybe just not

1394
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: even the podcast network, just a digital digital network. Now

1395
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: it's to the point where I'm like, okay, cool, your

1396
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: face is driven your platform so much that all these

1397
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: new young media niggas, they all look at you like

1398
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: how you looked up to Charlottagne. They all look at

1399
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: you like, bro, we watched this of yours. This is

1400
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: why I've taken a grown up approach, because I used

1401
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: to go at people who was similar to me. I'm like, nigga,

1402
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: you copy my ship. Now I'm like, let me, let

1403
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: me put my arm around you and trying to invite

1404
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: you out to the fold. That's that's yeah, And hopefully

1405
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: I can empower them too, like let me empower y'all

1406
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: rather than kind of like be like, oh, I'm the

1407
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: only one through the door, Come sit next to me.

1408
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: That's why I created the Black Effect podcast network, or

1409
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: even with the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club, I want

1410
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: to be a format that outlives all of us. You know,

1411
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: Ye's going to do her own thing. If NV ever

1412
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: decides he wants to move on, I ever decide I

1413
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: want to move on, at least that name can still

1414
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: be here with new players. Yeah, you say you talk

1415
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: to a lot of different orders and try to mend

1416
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: beef and try to talk to them. Do you ever

1417
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: have conversations with six nine? Yeah? How did those conversations

1418
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: turn out? Man? Frustrating? Frustrating because he's one of those

1419
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: people who, Yeah, you're not pettiting him every No, you're not.

1420
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: Anytime I try to appeal to his humanity anytime, I

1421
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: try to be like yo, bro, And we've gotten the

1422
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: arguments where like like you know, just as friends like men,

1423
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with you right now at all? Nice

1424
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: cause I'm not like this. It's one thing I always

1425
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: suggest like, oh, don't do that, can't control you. But

1426
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: at times I'm like this is too much. Um, and

1427
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: oftentimes this is this is how we act. Like For example,

1428
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: P and b Rock just passed away, you know, and

1429
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: he had a negative comment. You know, I used to

1430
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: repost those. I told him, I said, that's a dub.

1431
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 1: I can't like it feels like I'm almost passively amplifying that.

1432
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not gonna sit there and delete

1433
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: every one of your comments. You could be in a

1434
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: conversation like every every random fan, but I'm not reposting

1435
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: that at all. But even when he when he posts

1436
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: a negative comment, man, I'll call Layer Bro you serious,

1437
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: ain't nobody always says he always has one of those

1438
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: yo act. This is why I hate when you do this.

1439
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: When P and b Rock was alive and was saying

1440
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: he can't wait for the day I die, you reposted

1441
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: him saying that. But now he passed away, I'm supposed

1442
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: to just why can't I Why can't I now keep

1443
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: the same energy? And that's really his type of that's

1444
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: his reaction to most of these things. But you can't

1445
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: be mad at that because a lot of these people

1446
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: said they hope he dies. They hate him. He's a snitch,

1447
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: he's a rat, talk about him. Gave him middle fingers

1448
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: fucked that fucked at me other So now when something happens, he's,

1449
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, not to say it's right, but for him,

1450
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't give a fuck if you alive

1451
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: or dead, I don't fuck with you. That's how he

1452
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: felt that shit. That's why the whole King Vaughan thing.

1453
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: I remember having a yeah. Me and him ain't talked

1454
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: for a while after the King Valan thing, like yeah,

1455
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: and he was just like, and I give him credit

1456
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: in the sense of, you know, as a friend, he

1457
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: had maybe say, oh, I know you're really upset, let's

1458
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: talk about it. And I just sat there and I

1459
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: was just like, this is more than y'all issues. And

1460
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: he was quoting twenty things that King Vaughan said to him.

1461
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: He's like King wid wrapped in a lyric. This he's

1462
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: saying this about me. They all can't wait till I die?

1463
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Why can't I? And I remember saying to him, I'm like, what,

1464
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: people are hurt? A lot of people are hurt. And

1465
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: even sometimes when these artists who I have someone of

1466
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: a connection with, I'm hurt. I'm hurt of they're passing.

1467
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: And then I control a platform that you're used in

1468
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: or trying to use to disrespect those same artists, so

1469
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: you're trying to amplify my my hurt. So it's like,

1470
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's very difficult, but um, you know, I

1471
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: think for him there got to be someplace where you

1472
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: find some inner peace. But I also feel like if

1473
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: we have beef when you're alive, it doesn't end when

1474
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: you die, like and that's that's whoever has beef like

1475
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: And I always look at it like fifty. You know,

1476
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: fifty is my brother. If one of those people that

1477
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: have beef with fifty die, he's not gonna stop, all right,

1478
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: But that's a man that got shot nine times. It

1479
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: wasn't neither one of y'all are wrong, but neither one

1480
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: of y'all a wrong. But you just gotta understand you

1481
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: gotta deal with to consequences that come with that. Correct.

1482
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna shoot on somebody who passed away,

1483
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: know that that person has people who love them, Know

1484
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: that that person has people who ride for them, and

1485
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: when they see you, it's gonna be some its gonna

1486
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: be some consequences to recussions. I think he's accepted that

1487
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: thing exactly. But but here's the thing too right. I

1488
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: do know in the course of hip hop conversation. And

1489
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: I remember one time when he told me he was like, yo,

1490
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: he did something. Forgot what it was was some like

1491
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: he was like he with the Nipsey mural shit, and

1492
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: he was just like, yo, they said I couldn't come here,

1493
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: I went there. Like if anybody else, if they said

1494
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: anybody else couldn't go somewhere and they went there, they

1495
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: would call them tough. But they all just mad at me.

1496
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: Told him by I'm disrespectful, nobody. Why an't I called

1497
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: me tough? What you called the other guy tough? And

1498
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: you know I always I always have this one thing.

1499
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm like listening Sometimes it's better to be liked than

1500
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: to be right, because you're arguing such technicalities. At the

1501
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: same point you're saying, well, if they're saying that about

1502
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: when he dies, why can't he keep the same energy? Well,

1503
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: nobody likes six nine except like me, right, So like

1504
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: truth be told, they're having a parade if he dies.

1505
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: You know this, right they're having and there would be

1506
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: nobody on social media saying stop it, guys, it's gonna

1507
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: be everybody's pot. That's what I'm trying to say that's

1508
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna be like Queen Elizabeth times a hundred, except I

1509
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: don't know where they had fun with Elizabeth. That's how thousand.

1510
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: But like like see, but like six nine does stuff

1511
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with beef. Right, he's in

1512
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: Russia right now performing. Yeah, he sticks up his middle

1513
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: finger and says, fuck Britney grinder. Yeah, but the Britney Brittany.

1514
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: You can't. He can't pull up a Britney ground and

1515
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: rap that says he said anything about him? No, I agree,

1516
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: I agree, and by the Heay did say it was drum.

1517
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: But still like, I don't be here defending him because

1518
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: I do think he just has a he just loves

1519
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: that beef ship man. You know, do you ever look

1520
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: back at your drunken ranch and say I went too far?

1521
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that is because of watching

1522
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: people around you who have had to deal with those consequences,

1523
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: whether it was six or nine going to jail, whether

1524
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: it was you know XXX, God blessed the day, you know,

1525
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: getting murdered, all the other rappers that you name that

1526
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: you had a relationship with, is it worth it um

1527
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: if I ever say something or I speak out of turn,

1528
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: or if I say something that didn't mean or maybe

1529
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: I mishnorest to something that reacted to it. In one

1530
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: of those rants, I usually address it. I'm always I

1531
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: try to hold myself account. I let the people home

1532
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: accountble too. You know, there's been times I think I've

1533
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: been all the way right and people like nah, especially

1534
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: like you know, you could get a read from like

1535
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, the temperature of everybody. M One thing I

1536
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: try not to do is allow myself to be bullied.

1537
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,879
Speaker 1: But also sometimes again I'm gonna keep saying this, sometimes

1538
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: this is more important to be liked than to be right.

1539
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: For example, I remember people saying whatever, like okay, I

1540
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: commented about Freddy Gibbs, right man, nobody and fifty has

1541
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: said used to say this too. Nobody remembers the action

1542
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: that caused a reaction. Freddy Gibbs was putting them memes

1543
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: with me photoshopp in a casket and him spitting on it.

1544
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: Nobody cared about that, right, I comment, like, I make

1545
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: two jokes about him getting beat up. Oh my god,

1546
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: look at his bitch ass. That's what I'm saying. So

1547
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: people only see one side, so you know, like they

1548
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: like Freddy Gibbs, especially on Twitter. They're like him more

1549
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: than me. So if if I trip and fall, it's like, yes,

1550
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: if something happens as really as a result of his

1551
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: own actions, they're like yo, wait wait you can't you

1552
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: can't laugh at that. So again, you know what I mean.

1553
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be like um, like um, one sided

1554
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I've understood that through the media,

1555
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: like the media create favorites and like, for example, everything

1556
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: you've seen popping off with me, where is it emanating

1557
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: from Shade Room? About it? I love you know, I

1558
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: love Angie, So it's not her. It's just that platform

1559
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: and the demographic there. Don't really fuck with me. They

1560
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: should know emanate from really rap blogs, you know what

1561
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean Again, I mean, granted it's a bigger blog,

1562
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: but like that audience don't really fuck with me. If

1563
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: they liked me, it would be very different. There are

1564
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: certain artists I see make mistakes that people like it.

1565
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, he ain't mean it like that.

1566
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: But when they'll like you, oh hell now, he definitely

1567
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 1: meant to that fact. Have you had time to really

1568
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: reflect on your comments in regards to the old the

1569
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: Pioneers and hip hop like, have you had time to

1570
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: reflect on it and say, Okay, maybe I shouldn't have

1571
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: said the word dusty, or maybe, you know, maybe maybe

1572
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: I should have just said, hey, financially, how come they

1573
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: aren't doing as good as they should be because they

1574
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: invented hip hop? I mean yes, And again, first of all,

1575
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: I knew this point the bigger context was never gonna

1576
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: be taken seriously. If I knew it was gonna be

1577
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: even amplified to that, to that reach, yes I would

1578
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: have not said that to hopefully let's have the conversation.

1579
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: But granted we just all agreed they don't want to

1580
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: talk about it, but you know how you can make

1581
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: them have the conversation. Apologize for calling them Jesse and say,

1582
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I used the bad choice of words.

1583
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: Hold on, But but here's the thing. I can't apologize

1584
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: or something I didn't do, like I didn't call all

1585
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: of them? Does it? Everybody who was responded you said

1586
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: what I said earlier. I agree with LLL one hundred percent,

1587
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: except eighty percent of when he was talking about wasn't

1588
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: to me because I say it. I never said that

1589
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: your UM money could be equatable to your hip hop

1590
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: contributions in the past were you were you left it

1591
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: broad because you didn't name a name. So mean you

1592
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: didn't name a name, you can only think you're generalizing. Well,

1593
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: that's what I represent because usually I love calling names.

1594
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: I should have just called that dude name, but I

1595
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't think my olders was even gonna to do so.

1596
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: But now everybody don't responded. I don't want to now

1597
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: go back and point Blake, I was talking to that

1598
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: nigga right there. Body didn't due responded to the one

1599
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: person you was talking about. Wow, interest interested? So I mean,

1600
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: that is a bigger conversation. By the way, when he responded,

1601
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: he kind of almost agreed that he was let me

1602
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: just keep it going. But the bigger conversation is how

1603
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: can we help you know the founding fathers? And I

1604
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: think people just people just want you to respect the

1605
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: culture that you eat off. Okay, that's a good one.

1606
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: What legitimately besides that comment, do people believe that shows

1607
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: lack of respect of the culture or even historically um

1608
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: rappers who came before, Like that's what I'm trying to say,

1609
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: Like they're using two words to kind of you paint

1610
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: a large brush on everything I've done, you know what

1611
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean? Well, if you but if if they if

1612
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: they have, if they haven't been paying attention to the

1613
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: whole totality of you and all the different things you

1614
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: might have done or have done, then they only see

1615
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: that one thing. Who is this? You know? And that's

1616
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: and that's where it comes down to this, right, So like, um,

1617
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, but they're not gonna give you a chance

1618
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: because it's already we're in mob cultures, cancer culture. So

1619
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: or is anybody gonna look up? Does he have other

1620
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: comments disrespecting all of the old rappers? What has he

1621
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: said about them before? What has he said about you know,

1622
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: the pioneers? What has he said about people who were

1623
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: popping in the eighties and nineties? Okay, he grew up

1624
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: on most of these niggas into two thousands. What has

1625
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: he said about all these people? Is he one of

1626
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: the dudes who are just ignorant, who only likes the

1627
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: under twenty five year old rap music and thinks everybody

1628
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: else is trash? Has he only judged rappers because of money?

1629
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: Did anybody go to look that up? Or was it

1630
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: a good way to galvanize? And actually that's the only

1631
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: thing I was proud about. I think everybody was on

1632
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: the same page, even though it was against me. And

1633
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: sometimes if you think about back in history and by

1634
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: the maybe I shouldn't even sa this, but I was

1635
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: not saying I was just like in history, the worst

1636
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: events that bring people together are usually scapegolden one one particular,

1637
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: one particular subset of people, or one person. Everybody would

1638
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: get on board. Oh that's the bad guy. Get that motherfucker.

1639
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: So again, I was like, I was happy when I

1640
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: seen everybody. Everybody was chiming in. Certain people I thought

1641
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: should should have set it set it out though, like

1642
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: Russell should have set it out like he was. Come on,

1643
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: so you're down to have the conversation with the lls,

1644
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: the TI I mean, I think after thing, people don't understand, like,

1645
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: you're not a bad guy. You know, I've been knowing

1646
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 1: you for a long time. You actually a student of

1647
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: the game, you know what I mean. And I think,

1648
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: just like any of us, you can get caught up

1649
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: in the performance of it all sometime, you know what

1650
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, But you got it. You gotta deal with

1651
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: the consequences those actions, Like I always tell you, it's

1652
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: going to come at some point, we've all gotten punched

1653
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: in the face. You know what I mean, I don't

1654
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: think it's worth it in the long run. I don't no, no, no, no, no,

1655
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: of course it's never worth it. Right. What I mean

1656
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: worth it is like this is just hip hop, and

1657
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: the same way everybody running arond saying it's the most

1658
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: dangerous job in the world, which it's not, but still

1659
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: everybody running around saying that if you believe that, you

1660
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: you must know when you pick up a mic, you're

1661
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: you might die. Right. So so so here's the thing.

1662
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: When I also pick up a mic to give my comments,

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Speaker 1: I understand it might get that serious too. You gotta

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Speaker 1: take that. If we're calling it a most dangerous job

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Speaker 1: in history, right, it could go any way at any time,

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Speaker 1: based based off how you choose to communicate. Because the

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Speaker 1: way we're communicating, now that's not being that communicate all

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Speaker 1: the time, but you don't communicate it. You don't sound

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Speaker 1: like it's on twitch. Yeah, because I'm giving a soliloquy,

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Speaker 1: and a soliloquy like if I was talking Montone, I'm

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Speaker 1: falseive too, that's falsey what I'm talking. So I'm a

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Speaker 1: performative on everything, not what I mean performative is that

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Speaker 1: I'm theatrical when I'm when I'm talking, I'm you're entertaining.

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Speaker 1: And also, what I've realized in hip hop, people think

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Speaker 1: that speaking with confidence means you're aggressive. Like I'll be

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Speaker 1: speaking about a point that I am very confident about

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Speaker 1: making it be like, Yo, why are you talking tough

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Speaker 1: like this? Like what do you say this in person?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, now I'm having a conversation with you,

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Speaker 1: and if we're inside, I'm talking to millions of people

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Speaker 1: through a mic in the screen. Who knows who the

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Speaker 1: fuck is listening right now? If I'm talking to you,

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Speaker 1: why would I need to shout right here? And also

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you that you could be

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Speaker 1: able to listen and then be able to understand and

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Speaker 1: respond and vice versa. I guess what my thing is like,

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Speaker 1: I like all of these conversations, but let's not make

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01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: them about one individual. Let's make them about coaches. Let's

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Speaker 1: get them up here, because I think sometimes when you

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Speaker 1: hear somebody's side and what they're talking about, it opens

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Speaker 1: it up. And I guarantee from this interview, people are

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Speaker 1: like you more because they're not hearing the clips that

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Speaker 1: they're hearing on the blog sites and the clips that

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Speaker 1: they're hearing on these sites that only a thirty second clip,

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Speaker 1: and you had a seven hour conversation, And how do

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Speaker 1: we know this? This this in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: this is the hate that hate produces. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you the Frankenstein monster of a of a

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Speaker 1: lot of hip hop. Because if I come at you

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Speaker 1: for you know, why you call this woman a b

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Speaker 1: words like I gotta turn the mirror on myself too,

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Speaker 1: why I've been doing it for so long? If I

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01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: come at you because you know you called rappers old

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: and dusty, it's like, damn, when I was young, I

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Speaker 1: was disrespecting the old, older generation too. But also more importantly,

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Speaker 1: what can we do for the founding fathers of hip hop?

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Speaker 1: You know, so they aren't like that. What can we

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Speaker 1: do to where more people are respecting women? When when

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Speaker 1: when we have these conversations. By the way, I kind

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Speaker 1: of also, you know, to sum it up, I feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, hip hop always needs a villain. And I

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Speaker 1: think because you know, six nine is where he used

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Speaker 1: to be in this career. It's kind of like CNN

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, Donal Trump not an office no more.

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan the bad guy, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm in line to be one of those guys,

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Speaker 1: and you know I could. You know, I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: telling my brother yesterday. I was just like I could

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Speaker 1: watch every word I'm saying. If they want to take

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Speaker 1: something out of context, absolute, they went back ten years

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Speaker 1: to show them something randomly, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: they went back ten years. So trust me, I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: come on, you know he goes you know, I know

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Speaker 1: he knows. Yeah, we appreciate you for stopping through. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna make it up here. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thought I wanted to answer you to be here

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Speaker 1: before before she went to the final days of the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club as you know it. So you got in

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Speaker 1: before the transition, Yo. Could I be one of the

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Speaker 1: new hosts though, Yeah, we can. We're rotating guests next year.

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Speaker 1: At least swinging I mean instead of Sharlotte me t

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Speaker 1: go security they God, damn right, nobody's swinging on. Nobody

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Speaker 1: have going on a long time as you should. I

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Speaker 1: think you crazed if you weren't all right, Well, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joined us. Is academic DJ Academics, it's the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,