WEBVTT - Jeet Heer & Ed Luce 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.600 today's best minds, and a Democrat won the special election 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.280 to fill the seat of assassinated Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Hortman. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.799 We have such a great show for you today in 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.680 the Nation's gene here stops by to talk about Cash 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:27.240 Betel's jaw dropping congressional hearing. Then we'll talk to the 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.960 Financial Times editor Ed Loose about how Trump's immigration war 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.120 is hurting our economy. But first the news. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.200 We got a hotbed of RFK fuckery in our first 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.240 segment today. First off, shout out to doctor Susan Monarez 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.120 for being so good in this testimony, and really shout 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.680 out to her for being a great American, being brave 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.880 and saying what she needed to say in this hearing. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:57.200 Yeah, look, that was really a great hearing. She gave 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.040 a great speech. She talked about in integrity and again 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.920 like this is this question of here are all of 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.480 these billionaires, all of these captains of industry, lawyers, fancy 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.000 people caving and then you have just she's just a 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.759 doctor and she says what I think should be our 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.440 watchword for this moment in American life. She says, I 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.039 would have gone along was what RFK wanted, but then 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.320 I would have given up my integrity. And the only 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.560 reason that I'm doing any of this is because of 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.760 my integrity. It's worth listening. And you know, we had 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.040 Senator John Cassidy. He is the reason we are in 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.080 this nightmare. So I don't have a lot of pity 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.080 for him, but he's understood what he's done. And look, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.440 Democrats were worried that Susan Manair's would not be able 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.480 to stand up to RFK, and she did. She stood 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.920 up to arf Kay. She stood way up to arf 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.800 Kay and Nat I think is really a testament to 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.720 doctor Minera's and if nothing else, like she is a 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.480 brave woman that we should all kind of being off of. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.600 I will go out of the lim and say when 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.200 history is written of this time, what they'll talk about 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.560 is some of the details of how she described the 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.040 fealty he wanted and how she would not push back 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.680 on it. That will be a detail that we will 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.320 see over and over again in these hearings as this 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.280 administration tries to make everyone bow to them. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.240 Yeah, this moment we're in will not last forever. Yeah, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.280 and we will look back on this, and we will 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.400 look back at the people who caved and the people 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.160 who spoke truth to power. There were a lot of 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.480 moments in that hearing it's really worth going back to 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.800 because during that hearing we also saw urf Case had 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.320 a lot of really unhinged stuff to her. He said 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.359 that the CDC vaccine recommendations are based on science. That's 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.000 not true. He just said a lot of things. He 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.000 said the CDC is killing children. Not true. By the way, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.640 measles has killed two children. He really is probably the 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.760 most dangerous member of Trump's cabinet. And again, vaccines are 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.480 an eighty twenty issue. They are an eighty twenty issue. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:09.360 Trump maybe has decided that he thinks that RFK is 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.200 good for him, but I think it's really worth realizing 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.160 that RFK could really be the one of the many 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.440 things that unravels this administration. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.840 Yeah, and now he wants to end mental health screetings 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.400 in schools, which you know, in a mental health crisis, 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.080 where all everybody talks about all day is how our children, us, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.600 every person of any status is not doing the best 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.760 with mental health. This seems like one of the dumber 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.520 ideas coming out of this administration. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.360 I mean, it's so hard to pick this one dumb 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.640 idea to come out of this administry. I don't know 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.400 if you have if you are familiar with how this 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.680 administration works, but there are quite a few dumb ideas 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:53.600 that this crew has. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.600 I wouldn't want to be the person wriking a top 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.160 ten like David Letterban used to do of the top. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.800 Ten dumbest things. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.080 And the other thing I think it's worth realizing about 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.200 Mineras is that doing these here and she and John 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.000 Cassidy are doing these hearings right now because this week 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.640 the group that RFK Junior has put together to make 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:19.080 these new vaccine suggestions are going to make some pretty 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:24.120 I think, probably pretty insane guidance for childhood vaccination, just 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.360 like they did in Florida. So I think that what 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.840 we're going to see, and we're already seeing it, is 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.160 a lot of states blue states are getting together and 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.880 having their own health groups. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:35.640 We see it. 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:39.200 We're seeing insurance companies saying that they will cover these vaccines. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.240 These are not hugely expensive vaccines, but they're going to 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.320 cover them even if the recommendations are changed. Which it 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.039 looks like they will be. What's happening here is we're 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.119 seeing a kind of soft secession, right. We're seeing blue 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.359 states say like, we can't trust the health data we 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.440 are getting from the federal government, so we're not going 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.599 to use it anymore. There becomes a question of like 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.760 large percentage of our tax dollars go to fund what 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.359 is now like rfk's kind of personal fife job. And 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.919 there's a real question about when you go down the 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.479 road of this, where does this end? And I do 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.919 wonder about that, SAMAI. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.000 The Fed cuts rates zero point two five points, and, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.839 reacting to the weak job numbers, tear. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.800 Ups have successfully weaken the economy to the point where 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.360 the Fed is dropping interest rates. Trump wanted the Fed 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.239 to drop interest rates because he thought it would turbo 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.039 charge the public markets. What they're doing is dropping interest 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:41.279 rates because they have to. Again, that works until it doesn't, right, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.520 and you still have inflation as a real thing. So 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.800 in the eight months that Donald Trump has been president, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.400 we have gone from a economy that was the envy 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.159 of the world, a soft landing, to an economy that 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.599 is dabbed by both rising inflation weaker job numbers. And 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.200 labor market. So here we are. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.080 So there's a bunch of handwringing on the different sides 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:11.159 about Luigi Mangioni getting his terrorism charges thrown out, which 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.120 I think is an interesting ruling by Justice Gregory Carroll. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.000 What do you think, Mollie. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.320 Look, there's a lot of wanting to kind of make 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:23.240 everything something, but my sense is that this is not 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.080 a terrorism issue. This is a guy who targeted an 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:36.120 executive because he was unhappy with his healthcare git here 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.280 is a contributor to the nation and the host of 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:39.960 the time of Monsters. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:40.960 Jen here. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.880 Welcome to Fast Politics. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.080 Sali Young Fast thanks for welcoming to Fast Politics. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.880 And from your perch in Canada, the fifty first state. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.120 It turns out that by calling Canada the fifty first state, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.800 he has enraged almost everyone in Canada and not so 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:57.520 easy to do. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:04.880 Yeah, no, absolutely, getting Canadians bad is difficult, but he 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.880 has a tie, great feet. I think even more remarkable 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.880 actually is he got the Danes mad, which is even harder. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.720 I mean, those guys are like frozen icycles. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.040 But we but I digress. Let's talk. So we are 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.680 in the middle of these hearings about these cash Battel 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.000 hearings and Cash. Battal is the head of the FBI 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:30.680 for now. He is a complicated fellow who lives in 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:35.400 Las Vegas, which already is interesting because the FBI is 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.960 in lack Lay, Virginia, so that already is perhaps a question. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:41.600 Uh. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.679 And then he's tasked with basically the two biggest stories 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.320 of the news cycle, Epstein and the political assassination of 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.560 Charlie Kirk. They're basically all anyone's talking about, right at 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.480 least when it comes to law enforcement. And he has 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:02.560 watched both in incredible way that only the Trump administration 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.880 can discuss. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:09.760 Yeah, no, I I mean the Epstein stuff. We saw 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.680 some of this at the sort of like the hearings yesterday. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.120 This guy like does not know what's going on. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:15.320 Now. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.440 I have to say I have like a particular thing 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.200 with Castel, which is that he's a fellow South Asian male, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.200 He's a brother. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:23.720 You know. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.680 I think there's an expression that we have in Punjabi 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.320 called shanda for the gam that is to say, if it's. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.960 Pretty sure that's ours and not yours, but yes, go on, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:36.240 I won't I. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.000 Won't fight over a copyright here, but. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.400 Which is to say that if you see like you know, 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.760 the South Asian you're doing well, you know, winning a 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:52.920 Pulitzer Prize, do you feel proud? And yeah, if it's 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.120 someone like you know, Denise de Susa going to jail 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.560 or Castrattel doing all the clownish stuff that he's been doing, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.920 it fills it with a particular type of it's hard 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.760 to explain, like he's like you feel like, you know, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.640 bad personally yourself, like he has brought shame onto your community. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:10.680 Uh so. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.440 So so this is like a very personal thing for me. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.920 And it is partially because you know, this guy, uh 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.760 his only qualification for being head of the FBI, I 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.440 was writing a children's book praising Tunneald Trump as a king. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.320 So yeah, we were the Epstein hearings. You know, like 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.160 you know, very sort of forceful questions that they busted 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.840 all along terms of you know, like saying what files, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:37.400 offering explanations they can't explain, like very simple questions, and 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.120 he just sort of like blusters and starts yelling and 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.040 he has this kind of weird bud eyed thing, which 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.880 I also, I mean we were talking about like you know, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.079 sort of shame and cringe. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.319 Is it just it does not look good, brother. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.600 But look, let's work on the little public appearance stuff. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:56.280 So the questioning yesterday I thought was important for a 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.840 number of reasons. Democrats have this has been we are 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.200 a party in the wilderness right there is you know, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.920 it has not been a great couple months for Democrats. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.680 So I was really heartened by some of the questioning. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.439 There was questioning that was like bombastic but broke through 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.400 like I'm thinking of Corey Buoker. But then I actually 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.000 think the more effective questioning was the less dramatic questioning 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:28.280 that just drew him out. So the freshman senator from 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.960 Vermont is a guy, Peter Welch. He was a folk musician, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:37.320 as many senators are. And he gets Cash Bettel going 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.760 on the FBI private jet, and he gets him talking 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.880 about how he went to all these sporting events with 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:49.000 Mel Gibson. So he says, you know, mister Patel, I 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.679 see you took the private jet from Virginia to and 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.480 he says, I fly out of Andrews and not out 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.840 of Reagan, which saves the tax bears money. So clearly 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.720 already you see see the guy knows this is not 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.200 a great look. And then he says, well, you know, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:08.400 you flew to Las Vegas to do this fight with 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.240 mel Gibson. And he says, well, I live in Las Vegas, okay. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.960 And he goes, well, you flew to Miami, you flew 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.800 to like and he goes through New York and and 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.000 you know, and and it gets to I think the 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.160 gestault of it, which is that on the day that 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:28.040 they were trying to find the killer of Charlie Kirk, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.240 he was at Rio's with Bo Didle in New York. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.200 You know, I mean, this is uh that there is 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.520 something like kind of amazing that this guy's ahead of 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.160 the FBI, and he's kind of treating that as like, 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.400 you know, of the Behine Hustle podcast that he goes 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.920 into like an iridy or whatever, we only act less 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.439 serious than a podcast, just like a remarkable kind of thing. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.120 I also think, like in terms of his kind of reresponsibility, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.280 I mean, I thought one thing that really struck out 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:03.360 was that been all sorts of stuff circulating on the 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.400 right trying to link the trans roommate with the alleged 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.880 killer of Charlie Kirk, and I saw cash for tail, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.600 like actually tweeting out one of these reports which is 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.120 from a Fox News reporter but on her like Twitter 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.280 account and something that actually, like as far as I 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:21.880 can tell. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.280 Has not actually been verified. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.720 And I was actually like really troubled by that, Like 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.240 the head of the FBI should not be like so circulating, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:34.720 you know, like rumors on Twitter in general only Charlie 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.360 Kirk investigation. I mean I do think, like, you know, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.760 the one thing was, as with the earlier case with 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.680 Luig g you know, the fact that they had a 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:48.240 video and then family and friends recognized. I mean, that 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:49.880 was the thing that turned it. But otherwise he was 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.000 like stumping all over the investigation. They were like saying 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.440 stuff that was not true. Actually, like very early on 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.520 he was saying that we had a subject and thank 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.000 you for all the great work, which is you know, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.480 someone who was Actually they had two people that were 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.680 like totally not involved with the thing at all. One 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.400 was a local crank who was to all political events, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.600 and the other one was actually like former Heritage intern 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.920 who happens to be from the Middle East and had 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.520 a released turned flag on his shirt, which is a 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.200 case of racial profiling, so right, and he was like 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.600 at the time treating us the case is closed so 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.160 this is all like incredibly like like bumbling and shameful. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.760 I mean, the one thing that I think we should 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.160 just segue here is that the Supreme Court has recently 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.959 ruled that racial profiling is okay if it is in 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:44.840 the service of harassing Latinos, a group that had voted 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:45.320 for Trump. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.400 I was gonna that's gonna keep quick, because I'm looking 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.680 at all the pulling of Latinos and there used to 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.720 be like a huge amount of buyer's reverse there. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.719 But imagine why that would be, why you would have 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:00.800 remorse from that? 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.880 Yeah, yeah, you know, like you know, like obviously. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.760 Like you know, like you know, as a principal person 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.839 of the left, I you know, like racial profiling is bad. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:08.839 But I have to say, if you've got to be 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.040 racially profiling minority members of the Heritage Foundation. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.280 You don't know, I mean, it does. You know. So 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.760 much of this administration and so much of the moment 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.240 we're in here is like this inability to learn the 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.560 lessons of the past, And I'm struck by like racial profiling. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.200 I'm old enough to remember after nine to eleven, when people, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.640 you know, when there was a sheikh who was murdered 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.640 because they thought he was you know, like I'm old 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.400 enough to remember the reason we don't do this is 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.760 because it doesn't because it doesn't work, and because it ultimately, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.880 you know, tramples on civil liberties. Now, this administration not 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.800 super big on due process or civil liberties. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:57.760 But still yeah, but but still, I mean, they have 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.080 not learned any lessons. I mean, it's interesting there there 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.400 is a kinder tension a little bit between the more 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:08.000 gun home members of the administration patl and Stephen Miller. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.080 I think, like, you know, in some ways, I mean, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.080 the Trump is almost the moderate of his administration because 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.360 occasionally some I've be were seeing this with the case 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.320 of the car plant in Georgia, where it seems like 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.040 actually like they were, as is often the case, ICE 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.880 was going in to go after Latino employees and they 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.800 saw all these like Koreans and they said, like, you know, we're. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.360 All like legitimate visas and we're there to trade Americans. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.560 And you know, the state of Georgia spent a huge 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.080 amount of effort to try to get the spot brought 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.480 into their state, and southern really it's like this great 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.800 you know, like as with a large patting ally for 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.480 seventy years and now like you know, like basically, you know, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.960 like everything is going down the toilet. Now. I have 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.640 to say, like Trump himself seems to like be thinking, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.880 like wait a minute, this is not actually something we 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.280 should be doing, because he has these rich business friends 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.440 who tell him that. But like as well as like 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.400 you know, like someone like Stephen Miller, this is actually, 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:03.800 this is actually what he wants. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.560 South Korea is an incredible story and I cannot stop 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.760 talking about it for a number of reasons. But one is, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.960 you put the tariffs in place so that people will 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.840 manufacture in America. So all you want is people to 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.440 build plants in Georgia. Georgia's a red state. Donald Trump 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:28.120 Republican governor. He is killing himself to get this investment. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.560 They are training Americans for high paying jobs, right not working, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:37.320 you know, not picking strawberries, but like really, job is. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.120 What everybody wants, is what Democrats were. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:45.120 Let's manufacturing job, good manufacturing jobs. And they arrest the 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.920 people who are training them. They put them in they 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:53.440 disappear them, okay, in a facility. Then they put them 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.800 on a plane. Then they can't decide whether to send 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.400 them back because remember this is always Keystone Pomps. They're 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.320 back and forth whether or not to send them back. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.800 These people just want to go home because they are 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.280 like successful professionals. They go on to South Korea. They 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:12.160 do a media blitz where they have photographs of them 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.399 being mistreated. They have bruises, there's a pregnant woman. I 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.320 mean they are on the news twenty four to seven. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.240 The South Koreans now are talking about that they want 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.320 some kind of like hey go like thing for this, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.320 that this may have been their right. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.040 Violation of like there you would right. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.640 So I wanted us to look at the pictures because 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.879 as far as I can tell, those people actually were 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.680 done perfectly legitimate. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.840 Reason them to be in Jorgia. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.880 Yeah no, I mean I haven't no geophilitical genius. Maybe 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.200 like alienating one of America's closest allies in a region 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.000 where you think it's going to be the sort of 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.120 battleground of the twenty first century where you're gonna try 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.159 to create an online system against China. Maybe that's a 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.199 good policy. I don't know, but maybe there's a like 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.000 five dimensional tails I've seen here. Maybe I should give 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.080 him the benefit of the note. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.480 The other thing is that, And I think that we 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.520 should talk about this in a minute. Tariff's inflationary, right, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.919 Trump gets back into office basically because voters, I mean, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.320 there are a number of other crosswinds, but voters are 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:21.760 mad about inflation. Biden administration says inflation is transitory. The 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:27.360 voters are like that not good enough. Okay, fast forward 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:33.720 here we are, Okay, tariffs are inflationary, groceries going up. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.520 My man is not doing anything about it. And his 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:43.360 I mean, the economist known woke paper. The economist has 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.440 him down negative seventeen. Yeah yeah, and he's finally negative 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.879 in the state of Texas. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:50.800 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:52.880 He goes back to this, I mean, and I think 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.840 that Texas stuff was particularly driven by what we just mentioned, 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.000 which is the Latino vote, which had gone for Trump. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:01.560 It is like an amazing thing. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.360 And this is actually I'm like, you know, you're talking 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.040 about the Democrats being a straight but like I look 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.439 at the polling number and I'm actually thinking, like, like, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.720 I'm actually puzzled by, well, you know, why they aren't 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.399 more aggressively challenging Trump on every front because he is 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:19.600 actually quite weak politically, and I feel like this is 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.360 a uh they're pulling up training like I think he's 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.760 actually lower now than he's ever been, which is kind 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:26.920 of like amazing. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.840 And it goes back. I think I'd love to go 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.680 back for a minute to this idea of Target. So 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:38.640 Target went anti woke and they got you know, they said, 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.280 we're not going to do performative allyship, We're just going 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.359 to do no allyship. They were riding trump Ism, and 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.720 they just did terrible numbers because people just were like, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.879 we're not going to go to you. So here's a 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.640 question for you. It's not popular, right, it's not. It's 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.000 not popular. Yeah, it's getting less popular. It's everything's getting 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.320 more expensive. People are unhappier. This is just going to 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.760 get I mean, if Nixon, if Nixon and the Fed 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.600 is any history which we never learned from, but we 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.800 will repeat and again and again. It looks like Trump 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.920 pressuring the Fed to lower interest rates will likely get 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.040 us very much, you know, into spaculation. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.840 Yeah, no, absolutely, I think that that's kind of where 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.120 we're heading. And again, I I do think that given 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.119 all those things, I actually think like I was a 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.480 bolder strategy against Trump and then more you know, more 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.000 forthright willingness to speak out against it. The thing I think, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.560 like Target and all these other companies is I think 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.000 that they're not driven by like polling or what is 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.240 even popular. They're driven by fear, you know. As for 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.639 Trump has both the ability and has shown the willingness 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.320 to like you know, like Target anyone who sees as 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:53.040 a political fo you know, no pun intended with Target, Yeah, 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.639 and that like HERD companies. So I actually think, like, 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.879 you know, all the stuff we're seeing with all the 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.600 CEOs continuing to sort of butter up Trump, all the 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.320 institutions and continuing now with like you know, the the 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.320 academic institutions, like surrendering to him and providing lists of 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.360 professors as they did in California. 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:12.919 That's like such a short sighted thing. 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.280 They're basically thinking about, you know, what's our like you know, future, 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:20.120 the next two three years. But with your tires off 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.240 with like this guy who's hu's the unpopular and there 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.080 will be a reckoning. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.199 There will be a reckoning, like you know, like. 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.800 Post Trump, and like we were like, uh, we'll remember, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.560 I hope, like all the people that were cowards. 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.720 And I and I also think I think the add 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.080 on here is like the the reason why Trump is 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.080 focused on crime and sending the National Guard into cities, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.680 and the reason why the right all they want to 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.680 talk about is crime is because they know that they're 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.200 losing on everything else. Right, if he were winning on immigration, 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.959