1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Faiths and Traders. Welcome into another episode of by order 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: of the Faithful's survivor addition Wells Adams alongside Dolores Catana. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: This is part two of our recap of episode two, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and we are joined once again by survivor legend Stephen Fishback. 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Let's get into episode two. I mean we pick up 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: at Kyle being evacuated on day four. Sucks that you 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: have to go out that way. Nice to see that 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: people really cared about him and were upset. But or 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: do you think that that is gameplay of Like I 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: want people to think that, Like I have a heart 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: and I really love these people. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: I think that's genuine. I mean, I've been on a 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: season when someone actually both of my seasons, someone was 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: pulled from the game, the first time for medical reasons. 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: In the second time he had to go home for 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: a family emergency. And you really, you know, your heart 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: goes out to these people because you know that they 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: are suffering as much as you are. You know, you 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: know that they also just to get here, They've put 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: themselves through so much, you know, going through the casting 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: process and putting their lives on hold, and like their families, 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: you know, creating space in their families to like for 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: you to go on this adventure, so for that to 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: just be over by some freak occurrence. You know, how 25 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: can you not empathize with these people and especially like 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: especially too when you are like literally a shivering together 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: at night when you are all starving. You know, you 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: just like have so much empathy. I think for the 29 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: most part, people have so much empathy. There are some 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: sociopaths out there, but for those part, we all have 31 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: so much empathy, you know, for someone going through it 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: and then to see them pull just like you feel 33 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: awful for them. 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. In the challenge, it's taking place in the middle 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: of the ocean. This is a I thought was a 36 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: really cool challenge. Two tribes will have a chance to 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: win camp improvement Kit, which everyone seems like they need. 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: This early in the game, everyone finds out that Kyle 39 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: was pulled from the game Camilla, who was his closest 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: ally in season forty eight. She gets emotional and before 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: the challenge, Coach and Azsie go at it with one another. 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I loved this fight between Coach and Auzy. I'm wondering 43 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: if someone from a survivor, what did you think. 44 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: I totally agree, And that's so much what I love 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: about this season Surviber fifty, where there's so much history. 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: You know, you're bringing these contestants back who was it 47 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: truly was like fifteen years ago or even maybe more 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: that they were competing against each other and the fact 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: that that bad blood feeds into this rivalry that they have. 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: And what I love about it too is that there's 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: still this question of like behaving honorably, you know, and 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: like what a strange idea in this world of reality TV, 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: you know, for there's still be people who are out 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: there saying I behaved honorably, Like, no, you didn't behave honorably, 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: the idea that that would be a part of their 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: even in. 57 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: Their vocabulary, the word honorable. You're lying, you're cheating, you're 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 3: stealing your you're doing everything dishonorable to win, and it's 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: it's okay, So what is honorable there? It's a whole 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: different meaning. 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. You know, it's like the audience 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: expects you to act dishonorably, you know, that's what you're 63 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: there for, that's what they want. And the fact that 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: they're still clinging to this idea of like I'm noble, 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm a warrior, I'm honorable. It's just like so wonderful 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: what I love about bringing back some of these old 67 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: school players. The other great thing about that moment was 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: literally to your point, Whells, it was on the heels 69 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: of everybody like weeping about the end, and you can 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: see Jeff Probes kind of winding them up, you know, 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: like Ozzie, what do you think? Oh, Kush, you were 72 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: there too. 73 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: See, that's when my type of reality show kicks in, 74 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: when the old shade from fifteen years ago comes back 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: to play. When you think it's gone, you've shook hands 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: over it, you've been to events and talked over the years, 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: but it didn't go away. So you can never trust 78 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: anybody that you screwed over one time in a game. 79 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: How much of that is like you like, to some degree, 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: you're kind of the fact that the cameras are there 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: like makes you feel it more intensely. Right, I'm not 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: saying you guys are playing it up, but like just 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: the very fact that it's on camera like brings these 84 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: feelings to the surface in some way. 85 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: No, we're talking about women's Stephen, they do not let 86 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: things go brudges are in our DNA and no, I 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: mean maybe for other people, is it like because it's 88 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: front of the cameras, we're. 89 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: Gonna get more mad about it. 90 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: I see that I've met a lot of the housewives 91 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: off camera, and and that holds true off camera as well. 92 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 93 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: The one thing that I learned when I went on 94 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Traders and got away from this bachelor world and was 95 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: around a bunch of housewives was in on my show 96 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: and I and I imagine on Survivor as well, when 97 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: the cameras kind of go down, everyone kind of stops, 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: stops like being crazy, you know, like we're not going 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: to waste their energy on that. I notice that the 100 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: housewives they don't give a crap or down. 101 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 102 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: That might be your next book, Steven. 103 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, Like I mean that's I love that. And 104 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: then there's there's a few Survivor seasons that are like that, 105 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: where like the cast of Survivor Gabone still all like 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: hates each other. 107 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: With a passion. I do know of them. I've heard 108 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: them talk about each other. 109 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: They and that's I love that. That's authentic. I feel 110 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: like that means it's like. 111 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: More real human nature, right, Yeah. 112 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts being a writer, yourself, 113 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Mike White thus far in the game, 114 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: because I've been really impressed with him. 115 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't mean Mike Wade in his 116 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: original season played a fantastic strategic game. Of course, he 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: was already very famous, but his profile of course was 118 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: not then what it is now. But like the fact 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: that he was able to make himself so unobtrusive his 120 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: first season, he really kind of like played this game 121 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: in some ways, that's what similar to how Christian is 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: playing now, kind of like oh stumbling, I'm awkward, like 123 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: what am I doing here? But as a result, he 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: was able to run kind of strategic circles around the 125 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: people that he was playing with. And some people say 126 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: the scuttle but is that he kind of threw the 127 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: end that like Mike would have won that season. But 128 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: he basically said, like, don't give it to me. You 129 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: know I have enough, Like I don't. 130 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just a lot of characters. 131 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he might. Yeah, I mean, but 132 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: like you know then I think afterwards he was like 133 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: why did I do that? 134 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: Like this business manager was like what, Yeah, I. 135 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: Just want him to get a Tan at this point. 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on top of those abs, you know, 137 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: like those games, what I'm saying. 138 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: They would show a lot more. We're impressed with his physique, 139 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: I have to say, so impressed. Where does he find 140 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: the time to have that workout with what he does 141 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: all the time? 142 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: But I feel like Mike White needs to turn into 143 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Mike Tan because it's getting a little Mike White is 144 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: too like him. 145 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: Though I like him, He's. 146 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: Able to seem so vulnerable and even though he's like 147 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: by far the most successful person you know out there, 148 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: by far, the most the riches, powerful, and yet like 149 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: he's there and he kind of has this meek, almost 150 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: like shy attitude, you know where somehow I think that's 151 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: like very endearing and like probably puts a lot of 152 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: these people at ease when they might feel intimidated by him. 153 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Naturally, let's get through this first challenge, you know, uh, 154 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Cela and Callo. When Cela Sela is first and Callo 155 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: is second, I believe interesting moment at Callo and Jonathan's 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: fishing and Coach decides to join him, and then I okay, 157 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: do you remember that Leonardo DiCaprio filmed the beach with 158 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Like the Shark that I was like, oh my god, 159 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: he got bit like something is like very very wrong. 160 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: It just ended up being a crimp. But is that 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: something that happens a lot? I mean, is thereable or 162 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: are you Yeah, that's what I was wondering. 163 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's a great point. Yeah, it's 164 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: like there's just like there is water, but like it's 165 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: typically a walk away from camp. You know, you have 166 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: to make you you have to be purposeful about it. 167 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 2: It's obviously super hot, it's super humid, which dehydrates you faster, 168 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: so you know you yeah, I mean it's just like 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: you have to like always be vigilant about it. And 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: you know your body, which might be you know, a 171 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: totally normal thing to go for a swim. You know, 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: when you're back home in the ocean, you don't even 173 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: recognize that your body like is not totally functioning when 174 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: you go out there and then you cramp up. And 175 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: what I love about Coach is that he's both so 176 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: over to the top or he's like screaming and like 177 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: thrown and you think he's dead, and then he also 178 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: kind of like is able to have that again, that 179 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: vulnerability where he says, Oh, I just I wanted to 180 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: be like the tough guy, but like I don't have 181 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: it anymore. And like the fact that he's able to 182 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: like have kind of both sides of that, I think 183 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: is what makes him such a rich character. 184 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: Does he really believe that though, or is he just 185 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: trying to make people like him play it off? 186 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably something there where. I'm sure that wounded 187 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: his ego, you know, for a guy who's so all 188 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: about honor and integrity, I'm sure that kind of was 189 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: like a little bit of an ego here. 190 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: For I'm coming off with Traders, Steve, and I trust 191 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: no one anymore. 192 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: I think everyone's lying except for Wells, and I'm just 193 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: not buying I'm not buying coaches humbleness. 194 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's probably fair, 195 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: a fair bet. 196 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'll tell you who's also not buying coaches humbleness. 197 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Is Ozzy back at Cela Azzy pitches and alliance with 198 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Devons and Savannah, and he says he wants Joe in 199 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: as well. Joe sees Savannah whispering something to Devon's before 200 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: they get some they get to the water, this causes 201 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: a huge blow. Is this a mountain out of a 202 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: molehill or is this something he actually should be concerned about. 203 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so curious about your guys perspective on this, 204 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: because again, like I'm really good friends with Rake, and 205 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: so like my like inclination is you know, you're watching 206 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: your friend on TV. You're like, obviously I'm on his side. 207 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: But that said, you know, from Joe's perspective, he literally 208 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: is coming off this season where his number one best 209 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: ally or so he thought was, had this secret side 210 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: deal with this younger woman and then like they ended 211 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: up bamboozling him. And you know, of course he feels 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: suspicious of that. If I saw someone whispering with someone 213 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: else right before I walked off for a conversation, I 214 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: would absolutely be curious what that was about. And I 215 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: would also think to myself, like, why are you being 216 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 2: weird about it? 217 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 4: He's a part of it. 218 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has a great point by saying, well, if 219 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm a part of that conversation, why wasn't I privy 220 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: to it? He's not wrong, And he also says, like 221 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: I said before, he's carrying over the baggage from the 222 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: last time he got screwed over in the Last Survivor. 223 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I am totally in agreeance with 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: everything he feels, and not to mention these games breed paranoia, 225 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: but it could be your mom standing there and you're 226 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: going to start to question her. 227 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: So this is He's right. I'm sorry, he's right. If 228 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: he was in on it, they should have told him. 229 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: The only thing I'm thinking is that my guess is 230 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: that what happened is Rick doesn't want to like sign 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: up for an alliance with Joe, Savannah and Ozzy, who 232 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: he knows are the three people who are up for elimination, 233 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: and then when he votes one of them out, and 234 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: you know, I think probably at this point they already 235 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: know it's gonna be Savannah. Then like, Joe, mister honor 236 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: and integrity, is like, you you broke our alliance? Like 237 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: why did you make an alliance with me? And then 238 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: break it literally the next day? Like I think like 239 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: the risk of telling Joe there about the alliance might 240 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: be greater in his and Rick's mind, true, than the 241 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: risk of not telling him. What do you guys think 242 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: it's true? 243 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: But Joe, I'm not saying they were wrong. I'm saying 244 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: Joe had the right to feel that way. That's all. 245 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: It's both I see both sides. 246 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 247 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian's wandering the jungle and talking smack about Joe 248 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: and then he stumbles across an idol. This seems like 249 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: one big giant Easter egg hunt. Are you guys like 250 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: when things like cameras are down or like nothing's going on, 251 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: are you guys just walking around looking for stuff? 252 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 253 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Totally, totally yeah all the time. And I think that's 254 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: what Christian was doing, right. He was sort of like 255 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: just like keeping his eyes peeled. He was like providing 256 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: banter because that is his way, you know. As he 257 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: went he was sort of like give given content. But 258 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: then I mean the fact that it's kind of crazy 259 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: actually that he was giving content that was like both 260 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: related to the episode and stumbled on an idol at 261 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: the same time, Like he might have been like talking 262 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: about a math problem, you know, But it happened to 263 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: me that he was talking about the Joe stuff and 264 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: found the idol at the same time. 265 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: That that was that's crazy. It was, it was, yeah, 266 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: that was crazy. 267 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Do you believe that Billie Eilish is actually a fan 268 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: of this show or do you think they're just using 269 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: her fame in these boomerangs. 270 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: I assumed she was out there hiding them. No, yeah, 271 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm not what's going on? 272 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: He was in the Easter Bunny costume. 273 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: She was jumping exactly. 274 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So. For today's Immunity Challenge, players will retrieve a two 275 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: hundred pounds survivor snake bring it back through a series 276 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: of obstacles. This looks so difficult. Once all three snakes 277 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: were successfully retrieve for their tribe, three players will work 278 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: to maneuver it. This also looked incredibly hard. Maneuver a 279 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: ball across a winding snake track. I okay, this is 280 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: one of my thoughts. Right, so you had to go 281 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: around in like this snake thing, right and you had 282 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: to everyone to pull the right way? Can you cheat 283 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: the system? Because I was like, well, why don't you 284 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: just go to the edge and then it's just a 285 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: straight line down and then over to the end. 286 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Could you do that thing? They usually give you a course, 287 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 2: like there's usually some kind of like place says you 288 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: have to go, you know with this kind of thing 289 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: that's interesting, go around and then over. That's honestly, I 290 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: don't know, they might just not have been thinking about it. Yeah, 291 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: that's smart. 292 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: But the thing in there would it was they really 293 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: had to communicate as a team. 294 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was very telling on how the team 295 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: is going to do better I think moving forward because 296 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: they really weren't communicating too well. 297 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely, And and some of it too is 298 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: just like who's you know, what are the like the 299 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: teams that you're what are the duos that you're sending 300 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: out there? Like it did seem like just some of 301 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: it was just like getting like groups, like getting really 302 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 2: stuck in that, you know with that snake. So do 303 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: you send like a strong person in a week person 304 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: or two people who are about the same like, so 305 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: you know, there's it's always interesting the strategy of like 306 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: who's running when Yeah. 307 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Lot two wins first immunity, Calo wins second Community CILA 308 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: going back to the tribal council once again. Over at CELA, 309 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: they start talking strategy. Okay, this is where this is 310 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: where I want to ask you the behind the scenes, 311 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: because they make it seem like it probably isn't gonna 312 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: be Savannah now you know, it probably is gonna be Joe. 313 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: Now that everyone's gonna go after in that. 314 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: Way because people were pissed at him. 315 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, or it might go to Auzie, you know. So 316 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, my god, who they're gonna choose. And 317 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there being like, it's gonna be Joe. He's 318 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: he's bitching everybody and you know he's God planning. But 319 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: then you know, you get to the end of the 320 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: episode of the Tribal Council and everyone votes for Savannah. 321 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: So was that all just trying to make it seem 322 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: more like the editing? Yeah? 323 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: I think so. My guess is that they pretty were 324 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: pretty decided. I mean people, honestly, the Joe stuff, I 325 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: think if they knew there was gonna be a swap, 326 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: they would have voted out Joe here just because they 327 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: were all tired of working with him. Obviously, you have 328 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: this antagonism that's building there, and like, if you know 329 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a swap, you don't want to go 330 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: into a swap with someone really pissed at you, right, Like, yeah, 331 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Joe swaps to a different tribe and he's like spreading all, 332 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, then suddenly he's with that group, or maybe 333 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: you swap onto a tribe with Joe and he's like, 334 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: f rick, let's get him out of here. But I 335 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: do think after losing two immunity challenges, your number one 336 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: thought is how do we've got to win the next one? 337 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Like we can't come back here, so we can't vote 338 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: out Joe in this spot and then and you know, 339 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: we got to give ourselves a chance. 340 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Why because because he is good at challenges. And yeah, 341 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: but is he that much better than Savannah? Is? 342 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: Yes, very true. But I think, especially in the early 343 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: stages of the game, typically the immunity challenges are like 344 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: more strength based. Honestly, it's only those like first three 345 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: challenges that are strength based really at all, and then 346 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: it becomes like much more like puzzle based or endurance based. 347 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: And because energy left, you're not eating, you're dehydrated, so 348 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: they have to kind of switch up the challenges physically. 349 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Right, I mean exactly it, that's exactly it, Like they 350 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: have to like they have to you only do these 351 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: really intense physical challenges in those early days because by 352 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: you know, once you've like lost all your you know, 353 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: your muscle massy by day fifteen or. 354 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: Exactly, there's nothing left. 355 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: Well, I could tell you I get very brain fog 356 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: when I'm hungry, So yeah, i'd rather Yeah, I don't 357 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: even know. 358 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: What to say. I'm not going to be good at 359 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: this game. Don't ever ask me to do. 360 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Savannah gives a long wind did die a tribe about 361 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: her being vulnerable, and everyone seems to be like, oh, yeah, totally, 362 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I get it, even though I just voted for you. 363 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on her closing arguments there? 364 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I feel like Jeff's like, yeah, like, 365 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: we know you're leaving. We need the juice, you know, 366 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: give us the juice. Give us this like key emotional moment, 367 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: and it's funny. Like before I went back my second time, 368 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: a returning player at Courtney Yates had said, like, watch 369 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: who Jeff asks the first question too, because like that's 370 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: often the person who goes home. Now, I don't know 371 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: if he still does that or if you know, maybe 372 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: they do and it's edited around, but or maybe he 373 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: stopped doing that because it's become a known thing. Yeah, 374 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: but like definitely you could see that at least the 375 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: person who Jeff was focusing the conversation on, like that 376 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: person had a better shot it going home because like 377 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: they've got to get the material, you know, he's got 378 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: as a producer, he's got to get the juice for 379 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: like to justify that person's exit. 380 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we have to talk about this Christian like hiding 381 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: the pouch that had the boomerang in it. Okay, I'm 382 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: not as familiar as Survivors, obviously you are, Stephen. What 383 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: explain to me what the hell they're doing, Like, is 384 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: this going to trick someone into thinking something's happened or 385 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: what's going to happen here? 386 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are so rick and Christian like have 387 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: what basically there's very little on Survivor that is like 388 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: verifiably from production and that you can use to like 389 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: really fool someone. And one of the few things is 390 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: like a piece of parchment, and specifically a parchment from 391 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: an immunity idol, right, because there's no way you can 392 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: replicate that. So in the past people have like made 393 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: these sort of fake idols, and the two uses for 394 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: them are like one to trick somebody else into thinking 395 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: they have a real idol and like both like causing 396 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: them to misplay but also like maybe embarrassing them in 397 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: the process. And then two to kind of like yourself, 398 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: come on it and then use it for leverage. And 399 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: I think that's what Rick and Christian are thinking, is 400 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: if I can when we are at tribal council, maybe 401 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: it's a hot moment, I can find this idol and 402 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: play it up and suddenly I can throw everything into disarray. 403 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: So if I get into trouble down the line, I 404 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: can find this, I can like put it on and 405 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden I can be safe, or 406 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: I can redirect the vote somehow, you know, and really 407 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: in a way that gives me kind of control of 408 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: that moment. And what I love it about it is, 409 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: you know, when you're in the tribal part of this game, right, 410 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: all three groups are on different beaches, so you don't 411 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: know where you're going to be tomorrow. You know, they 412 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: could get swapped, they could move to a different beach 413 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: when they merge, they could go anywhere. So if like 414 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: they just buried this idle like camp, it wouldn't work 415 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: because like they might be at a different camp in 416 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: a day. Tribal council is like the one place that 417 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: is consistent throughout the whole season, you know, regardless of 418 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: whether you swap, regardless whether you merge, you're always going 419 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: back to tribal council. So hiding it at tribal council, 420 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: I think is just so brilliant and inspired because then 421 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: if they're ever in trouble, they know exactly like they've 422 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: got like a you know, a pocket. 423 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that makes a lot of sense. Can 424 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: you not go to the tribal council set just like 425 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: in the day, because I'm like, well, why did you 426 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: get to stage this fall thing? You could have just 427 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: come back tomorrow morning and hit it there. 428 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's what's cool about survivor. Like the 429 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: answer is no, you know, you're you are in the jungle, 430 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: like you have to get like driven or like a boat. 431 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: It might even be a different island. You know, you 432 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: get taken that by boat to like tribal council, so 433 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: you know it's far away and and you have no 434 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: idea too. You guys are I mean, you know, you 435 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: know you're not blacked out. You know they blacked us 436 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: like they guess put us blindfolds. They black out like 437 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: the transport. We don't know where we are, you know. Yeah, 438 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: if one of us, like we literally could not flee 439 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: and like flee the jungle. We were stuck there because 440 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: we have no clue where we are. 441 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: Would you believe Christians fall? 442 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: I think so you just would never even think that, 443 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: you know, again, like you're so in the moment, you 444 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: and like he played it off, you know. 445 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: He's he followed it up with acting dizzy and walking 446 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: to the left. 447 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 3: Remember when they were walking back and he was totally 448 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: and Suri was like, you're you okay, I'll take the 449 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: lead and just stand behind me. 450 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: So he kind of like followed it up like really 451 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: like but nobody saw what he where. 452 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: He hit it so right, that was so great, and 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: he said like, oh I meant to do that, you know, 454 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: and that's sort of like awkward like nerd like, oh, 455 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: like I you know, yeah, obviously he had you know, 456 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: I think like the pants pooping kind of paid off 457 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: here because he's just had this here. 458 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: You poop, your pants are capable of anything. 459 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: Right, He's like, oh, Christian's a mess? Like what's going 460 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: on with Christian these days? 461 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: You know? 462 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: It kind of like sets it up a little bit. 463 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: Or is like Magavellian where like he thought about that 464 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: all and his pants on purpose to because he knew 465 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: he was true. 466 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, that would be Christian, the most strategic pants 467 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: open and survivor history, right, tell me to shit my 468 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: pants so no one everyone believes my fall later. 469 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: Oh my. 470 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: So next week we get a sneak beat the tribes 471 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: will be swamping, which will change the dynamic immensely. What 472 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the super tease of episode three? 473 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean I love a good swap. I mean it's 474 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: something we've missed in past seasons as there haven't been 475 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: a lot of swaps, and I think it really is 476 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: adds a lot of fun. You know, we've kind of 477 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: like gotten to know these tribe dynamics already, and so 478 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: like getting to see it mixed up a little bit, Yeah, 479 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: is really going to be going to be exciting. 480 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: It's definitely shaken up, Yeah, exactly. 481 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: And you know you sort of already know who's kind 482 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: of in control of their group and like who's on 483 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: the outs, and so you know, it's fun to see 484 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: people who are in control suddenly lose power and people 485 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: who are in the outs get an opportunity at a 486 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: second life. 487 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: Steven, who's gonna win? 488 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I mean I gotta like I think Rick's 489 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: doing really good. Although I guess that Joe stuff is 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: not so hot Christian. Let's give it to Christian. You know, 491 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: I think Christian could be you know, he's in a 492 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: great but he's so strategic, but he's also not even 493 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: the biggest threat, and he's alliance. Like I think aligning 494 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: with Suri is brilliant for Christian because as like amazing 495 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: as Sori is, everyone is threatened by her, like you 496 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: can't let Sei get to the end. And I think 497 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: like for Christian when he played his first time, everyone 498 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: was so hyper focused on Christian, like Christian is a 499 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: super strategist. We got to get out Christian and now 500 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: he's got like a kind of a nerd shield, you know, 501 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: sitting next to him. 502 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: But he also has a lot of attention. 503 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is good. 504 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would pick somebody who's more very strategic, sitting 505 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: in the background, staying under the radar until the end. 506 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: That's a good point. Who do you guys like Ziah? 507 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: This theory, and I'm usually right about my theories, is 508 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: that the way the reality TV shows work is the 509 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: people who win are never on the show in the beginning. 510 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: It's all so so you say, Christian, no way he 511 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: shit his pants in episode two. He's gone so fast. 512 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: Coolby's on my TV screens way too much. So I 513 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't know Charlie Davis was on the show. 514 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 515 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know that Chrissy Hofback was on the show. 516 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: I think they're going far because they have not been 517 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: in the first couple episodes. 518 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say Survivor likes to give, like you 519 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: enough of a thread, like some kind of emotional story 520 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: for somebody, so like for me, like Chrissy and Charlie 521 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: too actually, because they're like they're they're so thin. Like 522 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: I think you're right, Like, it's not one of the 523 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: huge characters. It's not going to be You're probably right. 524 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: It's not going to be Christian, it's not going to 525 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: be coach. You know, it's going to be someone who's 526 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: there in the background. 527 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Emily hasn't said one word since. 528 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: Right, but she's there enough. That's interesting enough. 529 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: I've seen her face quite a few times. They pans 530 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: to her face, so you kind of like think she's 531 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: there but never really around or involved in something. So 532 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for her to kind of come out. 533 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: I could be wrong. 534 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Genevieve, is she viable? 535 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: No, she cries too much. I don't like cryers. 536 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other one, I'm surprised Stephanie isn't getting more 537 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: screen time or Yeah, and and so that makes me think, Okay, 538 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: she's gonna go far because they want to use a 539 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of her stuff later. But like I look at 540 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: like the Rizzo's, the Aussies, Joe, I think Genevieve is 541 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: crying a lot. Colby I think has gone Christian coach 542 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, I'm getting so much of you 543 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: in these first couple episodes, and I'm not sure if 544 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a lot of you at the end. 545 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: Right, that's fair, That's very fair. 546 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Steven, thank you so much for coming on by 547 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: order of the Faithful Survivor edition. Before we let you go, 548 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: what do you want to promote? Where can people find 549 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: more about you? And where can people get your book Escape? Yeah? 550 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: I would guess just once again, the book Escape. You 551 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: can buy any bookstore or any of your you know, 552 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: online book ordering platforms. It's available everywhere and on audible listen, 553 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, let me know, let me know. Well, so 554 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: we'll send you an autographed copy of the audiobook out. Yeah, 555 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: thank you guys. This has been so funny, so funny. 556 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: Finally get to really dig into like how people poop 557 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: on Survivor. 558 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: It's been al Yeah, thank you for inquiring. Mind. 559 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some shitty questions. I apologize for that. Steven, 560 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: you rock man. Thank you so much, and please come 561 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: back on anytime you'd like. 562 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it, Thanks so much, guys. 563 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, see you, buddy. I he was awesome. I'm good, 564 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: you know. I feel bad that I had to ask 565 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: that we were asking the poop questions, but no one 566 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: could answer it better than Steven, the guy who Christian 567 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: was referencing with the gasteo intestinal issues in episode two. 568 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: No, no, I think it was right. And people want 569 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: to know. People just starting the show, or even people 570 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: that watch the show, they want to know there are 571 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: things behind the scenes, like it's not normal behavior to 572 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: have to go ship in the ocean and don't tell 573 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: me it doesn't wash back up on charge? 574 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, are the fish eating it? And then 575 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: you're eating the fish. I don't know what's happening, guys. 576 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: It was bad. 577 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: He doesn't know what's happening. I don't want to know. 578 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: What's happening. It's just really bad. 579 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: There is enough purel in the world to keep them 580 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: all clean, I think. 581 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: And they have dirty fingernails. 582 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: They do have dirty fingernails. Everyone out there, thank you 583 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: for listening to By Order of the faithfuls Our Survivor recap. 584 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: If you're not following us on social media, please do. 585 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: We're at by Order. 586 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Of the Faithfuls on instagram DS. Any questions or concerns 587 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: or guess you'd like us to have on and Delores 588 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: and now we'll be back again next week. Recapping episode 589 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: three by Dolores Bye.