WEBVTT - Are you doing your laundry wrong? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.000 Him, Manny, and this is no such thing. The show 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.400 where we set all our dumb arguments and yours by 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.799 actually doing the research. This week we're doing a mail 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.400 bag episode answering all your questions about laundry. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.760 If you go commando in your jeans, you can't wear 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:14.240 them as long. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:23.119 I No, there's no no such thing, no such Thank touch, thank. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.119 Touch, thank. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:28.280 Touch. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:35.839 Thank This episode was inspired by a Spotify comment on 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.519 our episode about Kanye from Daniel m asking for us 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.360 to do an episode on how to use the washing 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.199 machine without destroying our clothes. We decided to broaden that 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.479 out to all of our questions about laundry. So we 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.760 put a call out and we got plenty of questions, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.920 and luckily we have answers to I think all of them. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:53.519 Wow. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.680 So we're talking separating lights from darks. We're talking types 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:02.960 of detergent to use. We're talking todd dryer balls, water temperature, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.240 yeah yeah, things of that nature. So I called a 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.520 Patrick Richardson, aka the laundry Guy. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.760 My name is Patrick Richardson and people call me the 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.760 laundry Guy. Welcome to laundry camp. My laundry camps are 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.119 the hottest ticket in town. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.240 He wrote a book called Laundry Love, Finding Joy in 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.039 a Common Chorea. Seems like a good guy to talk to. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.680 So I tried to go in kind of chronological order 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:31.240 of washing things. So I started with prep and sorting. Okay, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.200 so this is a big one I had, was do 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:35.760 you have to separate lights from darks? 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.440 Before we get to the answer, yeah, cool, what do 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:40.080 we currently do? 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.640 My wife does and I don't, and at any time 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.240 I don't. I don't notice that anything bad happens to 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.360 the clothes. I'm sure there's some you know, maybe it's 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.080 it's rare, so it's worth not mixing them, But yeah, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.480 I don't. I've never noticed any kind of weirdness happening 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.240 if when I do miss yeah, I never did it. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:01:59.880 And the only time I would really think about it 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:02.080 was if I got like a new if I had 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:07.200 like a new pack of white teas and like a 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.560 really new red T shirt or so like things like 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.079 that where it's like, okay, this is not going to 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.840 go well with fresh items. But all most of my 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.720 stuff it's like, you know, first of all, I'm not 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.840 too concerned if all right, the white loses a little freshness. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.200 I don't wear like slain white teas out that much anyway, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.239 So I think that that's probably been the fact I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.040 don't care if anything fades that much. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.840 We're not franchise. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.400 In my white in my white. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.760 So yeah, I never sorted, and I still don't. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.280 I used to sort, but I also used to wash 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.600 my laundry at different temperatures. I've given up on that. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.720 I'll do everything cold now, so I don't really sort 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.160 unless there'd be times where I'm washing my sheets that 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.800 are white and I'll put some oxie clean in it. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.600 So I'll just do all the whites together. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:58.720 Riveting stuff. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:00.880 Hey, there's a lot, there's gonna be a lot more 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:07.440 of this. So do you have to separate lights from 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.320 darks or when should you? 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.680 You absolutely should separate your clothes. You should do it 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.680 for a couple of reasons. I mean, obviously there's the 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.560 color bleed thing. We actually have tools that will help 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.560 with that. You can buy these great little sheets at 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.600 the grocery store that you throw in that help with 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.200 color bleed. But what it doesn't help with is, believe 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.880 it or not, darker dyes are heavier than lighter dyes, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.480 So like dark T shirts weigh more than light T 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.480 shirts and if you don't separate them, it's beating up 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.800 your clothes. I mean, it's kind of like throwing your 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.720 clothes in the creek and beating them with the rock. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.600 You know, it's very very aggressive. Your white shirts, if 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.120 they go in with your navy blue shirts, it's really 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.080 really hard on them. So beyond the color bleed, there's 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.400 the weight, and you know that's something we should deal with. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.640 So the concern is less the color bleed, which is 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.480 what I Will always thought it was, and more the 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.840 integrity of the yeah, fabrics, the weights. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.160 White T shirt becomes less soft over time because you're 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.119 in there with dark. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.120 I did not even think about it, but think about 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.480 your white shirts in your dark. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.039 He's right, they're light, they are lighter. Yeah. Wow. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.479 And when he when he I asked the clarifying question 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.159 because I didn't quite get what he meant by the 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.600 heavier dies, I thought, just like, yeah, okay, the die 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.720 when you're dying the clothes, it's heavier. I was like, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.640 what do they have to do with I think, okay, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.360 well that's done now, I'm I'm not doing It's not 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:30.719 an easter. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.800 You have a white. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.359 But then he basically said it again, and I was like, oh, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.159 I see, yeah, sure it's actually which is definitely true 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.960 to my loved experience of holding black T shirts. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.880 Ones is certainly important when you're thinking of sheets, so like, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.719 I'll just throw white sheets in with my regular clothes. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.520 The sheets are the thing in your house you probably 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:56.680 want to be the softest. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.920 Someone asked about should we separate clothes based on materials? 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.520 Who's doing that? Yeah? Separating based on materials? What was that? 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.320 I mean, like, oh, these are all my linen shirts. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.960 I think I think that's they didn't go into cotton. Yeah, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 I think they mean just yeah, basically, like. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:11.960 I guess I would have to do like one hundred 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.000 different washes. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:13.680 Yeah, I don't know. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.159 So much of this is just like even if I 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.840 had my own washer dryer. Yeah, there's only so much 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:19.560 time in my life. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.080 The only way just makes sense to me is like 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.200 we're talking about Okay, I'm suburating my bedding. Yeah, so 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.359 that's more. That's more. How I think about it is 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.159 like material would be well some types of things, because 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:31.640 like jeans. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.680 I don't really think that's as necessary as separating by color. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:40.239 The one exception is performance, where like yoga pants, running pants, 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.119 biking shorts, that sort of thing. I think you should 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.520 separate those out. And it's not because of the color 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.880 or the fabric. It's because those fabrics have a characteristic. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.479 They're always polyesterone, they almost always contain lycra and they 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.960 have this characteristic that when you wash them and then 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.760 you put them on ten minutes later, they smell terrible. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.880 And that is because they're hydrophobic. They hate water, and 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.680 they're oleophilic. They love oil, so they love all the 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.159 oil from your skin and all the bacteria that's crapped 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.160 in that oil. So you should kind of separate them 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.960 out so that you can use like an oxygen bleach 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.599 or a color safe bleach to break that down. And 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.640 color safe bleach is not safe for wool or silk, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.040 so people say, well, I don't have wool or silk, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.120 but then they forget that they have smart wool socks 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.919 or they have wool shirts that they wear when they run. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.600 It's not safe. So I think you should separate out 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.039 that active wear, knowing that you're going to add color 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.080 safe bleach every load. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.479 I didn't know hydrophobia existed in this world. Still, Yeah, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.360 people need to you know, rock in the mirror. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:56.560 Yeah, it's a big getting ridiculously enough is enough, one 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.320 of you guys? Tell me what the what the takeaway 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:04.760 from that is basically, the the hydrophobic clothes, it's harder 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:05.480 to break down. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:07.880 Yeah, it's not. It doesn't. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.480 It repels water to some degree, so you got to 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.120 add this color to. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.960 Really get in there. It's not really cleaning it because 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.160 because it's pushing stuff away, and that's the point obviously 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:23.000 when you're un Then I asked about separating towels. A 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.080 lot of people ask about. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.800 Tow Yeah, a lot of people. Did y'all do that 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:26.280 growing up? 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:27.440 No, I've never even heard of this. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:27.720 No. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.880 I also just asked like generally, like it seems like 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:32.840 people have a I don't know if this is a 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.560 towel thing, but people seem to have a hygienic concern. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.200 So like the towels are extra dirty, so I don't 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.600 want them with my clothes. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.360 That I oh, yeah, that's when I was growing up, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:43.560 we separated socks. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.600 Yeah, crazy, So this doesn't This doesn't make sense to 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.040 me because it just seems just the socks. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:53.760 You just socks, it socks, and like just washing rags 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.040 like all the I don't know. I think it was 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.760 actually less about hygiene, Like I remember my my mom 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:05.080 basically feeling like the socks affected the smell of the 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.480 other clothes when they came out, because we were dirty 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.560 ass little kids, like we'd run outside with our socks on, 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.400 like dirty muddy coming back in the house, and shouldn't 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.920 She just wanted not to affect. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:16.640 Yeah. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.080 Ultimately, I think today I'm not running around with my 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.280 socks outside in the streets of because but. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.160 When you go home, is your mom still washing just 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.880 the socks by himself? Do you know how you noticed 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:28.040 they're gone? 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:33.040 I think it's I haven't noticed, which means she probably doesn't. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.079 It was because of the kids. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.880 Yeah, yeah, So I basically asked, is that a thing 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.120 to be worried about, like dirt transfer from another while 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.360 they're being washed with presumably soap, And yeah. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.120 That used to be a much bigger thing. Okay, if 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:47.720 we were having this, I mean, we wouldn't have had 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.640 a podcast in the nineteen seventies, right, we'd be doing 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.160 the Paul Harvey Radio Hour. But in the seventies or 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.600 the eighties that would have mattered. Technology has gotten so 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.000 good with detergent and with washing machines, I don't worry 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.000 about it. I mean, I've throw my towels in with 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.480 my shirts. I mean I'm wearing a shirt right now 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.319 that I washed with my sheets. You know, I don't. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.400 I don't think that's as important now as it used 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.520 to be because of technology. Yeah. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.679 So basically you're saying just the detergents and other things 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.080 have gotten better at actually getting rid of the germs. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.120 Yeah. I mean our detergents and are both detergents and 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.840 washing machines have gotten so good and so efficient that 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.320 our clothes are much cleaner than they used to be. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.560 You know. So because of that, I just don't really 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.960 worry about the towels being sanitary anymore because I know 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.040 everything's going to come out, you know, relatively sanitary now. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.960 So that does help explain though, why people of the 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.120 past would have more been more concerned with that. So 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.640 I was like, okay, people aren't just like macared dermophobes. Yeah, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.800 like you know, it's like, okay, there was more of 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.360 a issue. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.199 And it seems like is passed down just like you 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:02.679 behave your habits. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:10.120 Yeah, good phrasey, just give why do the machines tend 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.240 to have, you know, like symbols and not words, do 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.000 you know, I mean it makes them more universal. Yeah, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.160 you know, as we become more multicultural, they still work. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.160 I mean, clothing labels did the same thing. It used 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.400 to say machine wash cold, machine wash warm, and now 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.680 you just see a little symbol. I actually like the 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.960 little symbols. I think that in a lot of ways, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:37.320 they're simpler. Washing machines used to say colors, whites, bedding, whatever, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.320 and those settings didn't really work, you know, because if 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.200 you're going to wash the bedding with the colors, what 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:43.720 do you do? 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.520 You know, which one do you choose? So I kind 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.960 of like the little symbols. But the truth of the 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.360 matter is I live and die by the express wash. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.839 I think the express wash is the answer to all 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.400 of life's problems. So if I could design my own 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.040 washing machine, it would literally only have one cycle. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.280 There is a question about using a front loading machine 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.760 versus top loading, which apparently is a big discussion. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.560 I've never seen this online. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.240 This is an extremely not in New York. This is 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:11.840 like the rest of the. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.480 Country is. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.520 Front loader is going to be better than top loader 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.640 because of the way that they were. Okay, top loader 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.320 has gotten better. If you had asked this question in 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.800 nineteen ninety, there was no question. Washing machine engineers spend 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.760 a lot of time making washing machines better and better 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.680 and better. But broadloading is always going to be better 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.679 than top loading. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.920 Just because of the action of it. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.160 Yes, just because of the way it works. Because what 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.920 really gets your clothes clean is the water forcing through 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.760 the clothes. So the thing about a front loader, and 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.600 you have to visualize this because it's podcast the clothes 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.400 come up out of the water and fall back in 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:54.920 the water. They come up out of the water and 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.199 fall back in the water. When they fall in the water, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.200 that's the water forcing through them. You can achieve the 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.839 force with a top loader, but it's never going to 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.080 be as dramatic, right, Okay, that makes sense, you know, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:10.480 because the clothes don't really come completely out of the water. Okay, So, yes, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.160 a front loader is still gonna be better, but the 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.600 difference isn't quite as dramatic, So. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:19.319 Don't worry about it. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.760 Yeah, front leader more rigorous clean, But basically this doesn't matter. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.599 Yeah, I asked about how how do you clean a 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:28.840 washing machine in a dryer? 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:29.200 Yes? 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.800 Oh, a lot of conversation. We actually have to clean them. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.760 Cleaning a washing machine is super easy. You dump in 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.760 a pound of borax and a gallon of vinegar and 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.600 you run it. The vinegar breaks down the like detergent 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.600 residue and that sort of thing, because vinegar will write 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.480 down detergent, and then the borax almost acts like your 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:52.880 scrubber because borax is granular and it basically is running 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.280 around the drum sort of breaking everything loose. To clean 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.160 a dryer, the best way to do it is to 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.080 saturate a towel like a saturate a bath towel with 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.720 vinegar and throw it in the dryer and then turn 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.480 it on and let it run. It creates vinegar steam, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.400 but as the towel tumbles, it actually wipes it down. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.480 And then when it's done in both the washer and 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.960 the dryer, just grab a towel and just a spray 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.400 bottle of vinegar and water and just wipe everything down 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.000 one more time. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.640 Now, this is probably one of the biggest toughest questions 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.839 I've had to ask. Oh, breaking down hot water cold water? Yeah, 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:28.240 what do you guys do? 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.000 I just do everything cold because I've had shrinkage, And 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.920 I don't know, I've never thought deeply about it shrink 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.960 not that kind of shrinkage. And I've never you know, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.560 I just I'm afraid of, like any clothes shrinking. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.040 And you've always done this. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.440 Yeah, but I don't know if it's in the if 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.240 it shrinks in the water, or if it shrinks in 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.160 the dryer. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.560 I think both. I used to. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.600 I feel like everybody growing up you wash based on 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.480 the colors. You know, you're white, you would wash hot 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:05.680 hollered in your colored clothes. And I feel like, I 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.280 don't know if it's a marketing thing, but they kept saying, like, 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.320 you know, you can just use cold water, and like 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.000 eventually it worked. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:13.520 Laundry. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:14.480 Yeah, it's different. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.840 Patrick, this is a kind of a shocking answer. Just 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:36.360 gonna prep you after the break. Can you break down 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.880 when we should be using hot water versus cold water. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.400 I never used hot water or cold water. I only 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.080 use warm. There Again, in the seventies, you needed hot 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.960 water because you're denurgent in your your machine wasn't working 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.920 as well, so you needed that hot water to sanitize 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.160 your your towels and sheets. Now you don't really need it. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.560 Cold water there's this whole thing about cold water wash. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.560 What the industry doesn't tell you is they consider cold 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:07.040 water sixty five degrees. Unless you live in San Antonio, Texas. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.680 Your cold water is not sixty five degrees. It's colder 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.960 than that. You're not actually activating the detergent like you should. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.240 So warm water is warm enough to activate the detergent. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.760 But the reality is warm water isn't as warm as 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.280 your bath got it. So, like, if you're somebody who 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.520 takes a bath that's usually one hundred or one hundred 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.560 and five degrees, warm water is going to be somewhere 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.400 between seventy and ninety. To put your hand in it, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.480 it's going to feel tepid. Yeah, so warm water is 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.760 not that warm. I use warm water for everything, including 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.120 I mean, I'm wearing a cashmere cardigan right now, and 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.240 I watch it in the washing machine with warm water. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.200 And then yeah, because my question was, like, when people 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.600 are worried about things shrinking or other bad things happening, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.640 is that from more the washing side or the drying 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.080 side the dryer. I think, yeah, that. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.960 Can happen with either. If you use the express cycle, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.800 you don't really have that that's you got another reason 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.480 that I love head. Okay, I'm a two hours cycle. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.880 It's really the manipulation that causes shrinking. So two hours 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.240 in the washing machine is always going to cause a 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.200 little bit of shrink. Tumbling in the dryer also can 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.080 cause shrink. Really, the best thing to do is usually 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.560 express cycle and hang it out. If you're worried. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.880 That man is crazy Cashmere, I mean he's the laundry 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.880 guy who are better than his expert. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.000 Yeah, I don't want to test it. What do y'all 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:33.520 do it first? 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.320 I mean when he was explaining the temperatures, I was like, oh, yeah, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.280 like we're thinking about it in human temperatures. Yeah, but 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.320 this is just water nature temperatures. Yeah. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.440 And I didn't know that the water needs to be 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:46.760 a certain temperature to act. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.560 Yeah, the determine that makes sense to me. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.600 I did hear that and that, but I thought they 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:51.120 had just. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.080 If I'm just doing a spot washing, I would be 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.760 using warmer water, like yeah, if you're trying to get 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.880 out of stain or something, Yeah, I'm using hot water, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.160 like the hottest water possible. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:16:59.920 You know. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.600 So it makes sense that there's you know, an alchemy 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.760 going on there. You're not going to get from purely cool. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.480 You think about just cleaning your house, right, yeah, I 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.800 mean because you're the bathroom, you're probably not I don't know, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.480 if you're washing your tub with freezing water, you're probably 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.680 not getting in too clean. You get that little steamy then. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.760 Breaks it up quick, yeah, or just doing your dishes. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.680 I asked about when to hang dry and when to 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.840 machine dry, and what should you be careful about. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:32.320 I would always take knits out, so sweaters, sweatshirts, pollos, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.439 you know, thrown across the drying rack, or lay them 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.800 on a towel on the floor. I mean I take 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.880 out my dress shirts and my jeans, not so much 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.240 because of the shrink, but because it shortens their life. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.560 There was a study done in the late eighties that 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.400 a quality garment would survive fifty trips through the washer 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.679 and dryer. If you gave up the dryer, you've got 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.480 one hundred and twenty trips through the washer. So you 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.480 more than double the life of a garment by not 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.919 putting it in the dryer. However, I also know, like 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.560 I don't have a clothesline, so I don't even where 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.760 to dry my sheets, so they have to go in 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.520 the dryer. I'm not going to hang every sock and 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.000 every pair of boxers I so I throw those in 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.320 the dryer. But things I want to hang on to, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.040 I always hang them to dry or laym flat to dry. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:18.560 Yeah. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.120 So obviously hang dry is always gonna be safer, better 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:27.639 for the clothes. So if you really care, do that otherwise. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:32.280 the European way. I asked a few things about detergent questions. Yes, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.840 this answer is mind blownk. I asked about how much 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.800 detergent you actually need, and how to calibrate with load 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.760 size and the different washers and all that. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.760 Okay, this is the biggest mistake everyone makes with their laundry, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.600 is too much detergent. The industry and things that you 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.640 need a quarter to I have a cup of detergent. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.000 The reality is for a full load. So a full load, 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.560 which is in a top loader, it's about seventy eight 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.960 percent we'll say eighty because it's easier. In a front loader, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.400 it's about seventy five two percent full. A full load 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.480 needs two tablespoons of detergent. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:05.399 Wow. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.400 When the load starts getting smaller, you start cutting it back. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.520 So half a load is one tablespoon, And there's a 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:16.080 really good reason. One of the things the detergent does 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.000 is it has this surfactin that floats on the surface 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:20.960 of the water. The dirt comes out of your clothes, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.560 it gets trapped in the surfactin, it becomes heavier than 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.159 the water, and it goes down the drain. If you 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.840 use too much detergent, what happens is that surfact it 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.400 can't rense out, so it settles back into your clothes, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.320 but it brings all the dirt with it. That's why 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.560 you end up with dingy towels or laundry that smells musty, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.960