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Speaker 1: So we're talking separating lights from darks. We're talking types

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Speaker 2: My name is Patrick Richardson and people call me the

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Speaker 2: laundry Guy. Welcome to laundry camp. My laundry camps are

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Speaker 1: He wrote a book called Laundry Love, Finding Joy in

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Speaker 1: a Common Chorea. Seems like a good guy to talk to.

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Speaker 1: So I tried to go in kind of chronological order

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Speaker 2: You absolutely should separate your clothes. You should do it

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Speaker 2: Front loader is going to be better than top loader

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Speaker 2: Cleaning a washing machine is super easy. You dump in

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Speaker 1: And you've always done this.

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Speaker 4: I think both. I used to.

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Speaker 5: I feel like everybody growing up you wash based on

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Speaker 1: Patrick, this is a kind of a shocking answer. Just

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Speaker 2: I never used hot water or cold water. I only

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Speaker 2: use warm. There Again, in the seventies, you needed hot

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Speaker 2: Cold water there's this whole thing about cold water wash.

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Speaker 2: What the industry doesn't tell you is they consider cold

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Speaker 2: water sixty five degrees. Unless you live in San Antonio, Texas.

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Speaker 2: than that. You're not actually activating the detergent like you should.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is warm water isn't as warm as

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Speaker 2: Can happen with either. If you use the express cycle,

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Speaker 2: you don't really have that that's you got another reason

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Speaker 2: It's really the manipulation that causes shrinking. So two hours

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Speaker 5: That man is crazy Cashmere, I mean he's the laundry

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to test it. What do y'all

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Speaker 3: And I didn't know that the water needs to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the determine that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: If I'm just doing a spot washing, I would be

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Speaker 2: I always hang them to dry or laym flat to dry.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is the biggest mistake everyone makes with their laundry,

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Speaker 2: The reality is for a full load. So a full load,

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Speaker 2: it's about seventy five two percent full. A full load

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Speaker 2: When the load starts getting smaller, you start cutting it back.

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Speaker 2: And I know that people have this idea that more

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Speaker 2: You go to wash your hands, You put a squirt

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Speaker 2: That's what happens to your laundry when you're using too

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Speaker 3: It makes sense too, because when I do my laundry,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then you look at it and it's like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm like, well, who's who's counting?

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Speaker 1: And also, to be frank, I'm loading that machine up

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Speaker 1: get because the clothes aren't even moving in there. So

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Speaker 4: Squeeze into.

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Speaker 1: Draw like two drops of water.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that blew my mind.

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Speaker 4: Do we do we talk about detergent versus.

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Speaker 1: Typods' that's literally next.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't even thought of this. I use so

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Speaker 1: big Deterreentah, It's like they're not going to clarify this.

441
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny.

442
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes they like try to be like,

443
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 5: our detergent is better because it's more concentrated, so you

444
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 5: can use less, but no one actually does it.

445
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: And so it was like, use the cap, but the

446
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: markers on how many loads you need to do is

447
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: the same color as the cap. Yeah, so I'm like,

448
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: all right, I'll fill the ship right up to next step.

449
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: We had question about using tide pods versus liquid detergent

450
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: versus powder. I asked what Patrick's ranking is, and if

451
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: there's much of a difference, okay.

452
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: Liquid or powder, I'm gonna call them even. There's enough

453
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: detergent in most pods to do five loads of laundry.

454
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: So since I told you to use less laundry, you

455
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: can imagine that pods aren't gonna be my first pick.

456
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: They're easy again.

457
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: Yes, they're necessary, yeah, yeah, okay, And it's about the

458
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: same for liquid and powder.

459
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: Just a matter of yeah, two tables then, like, if

460
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: you're going to the laundromat, just put you know, I mean,

461
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: I don't want to carry that big box either, so

462
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: just put some out into like a ziploc bag or

463
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: into a little container and just take the amount you need.

464
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: Could you only need two tablespoons per load? So for

465
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: five loads, you know you're not even using a cup.

466
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 5: That's fascinating change my life because I've been a tie

467
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: pod guy since college. Wow, it's just like you said,

468
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 5: it's easy. Yeah, of course, you just throw the pods

469
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 5: in the in the bag. And I used to be

470
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 5: a multi I just recently I'm like, why am I

471
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 5: using more than one? I used to put more than one,

472
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 5: and that I used to put two three the same

473
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 5: same pot like a fabric. No, no, no, just like, okay,

474
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 5: this is a big, big load on me, two three

475
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: of them.

476
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

477
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: And recently I said, if I just put one for.

478
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Speaker 3: Everything, try it out.

479
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I didn't notice it.

480
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: And it sounds like, if anything, your clothes are cleaner now.

481
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 5: So now I feel like maybe I should graduate to

482
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 5: actually liquid because I'm running low right now on tide

483
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 5: Pole is about to reorder them.

484
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Speaker 4: Try Maybe I'll do the link try it out. Maybe

485
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: I'll do the liquid and put even less.

486
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was shocking to me. I mean now

487
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: I might try out powder even Yeah, it seems it

488
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: does seem easier, especially if I do do what he's

489
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: saying or buy a big thing and to just transfer

490
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: a little bit into like a toper. Yeah.

491
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Speaker 3: You know, Tie did a great job branding tide pods then,

492
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: because it makes you think you need one for one load.

493
00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

494
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: And it and it's like so small and concentrated, doesn't

495
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: look like that much, but yeah, fascinating.

496
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: And obviously is much more convenient. Yeah, storage and anything else,

497
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: so wild good good on them.

498
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut them up.

499
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should make smaller ones.

501
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Hey that's a third of a pot over there.

502
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: If they get smaller than people will really start eating

503
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Speaker 3: them probably.

504
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

505
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 1: They look like handling stains. Yes, And and also there

507
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: is a question about you know, are there things that

508
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: you would do that would like seal a stain in

509
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: so then it's like there's no touch, like if it's

510
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: gone through the dry or something like that. People are

511
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: concerned that then like.

512
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: You're not going back. Yeah, I guess if it's like

513
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 3: if I spill Coca cola on me or something, I'll

514
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: do like a little tide pen thing. But for ketchup,

515
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Speaker 3: I'm like, i'd be.

516
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: More about ketchup. Coke.

517
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, they just always come out. I've

518
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 3: never had a coke much lighter.

519
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: Than actually when it's poured on something.

520
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, trust me, a lot of coke. But in the

521
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: in the event of like wanting to wear it, keep

522
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Speaker 3: wearing it.

523
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: So what what are you pre treating? Okay, coke?

524
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm not nothing. I'm not pre treating coke. I don't

525
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: pretreat anything.

526
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: You're just throwing the hamper.

527
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 5: If you still oil on yourself or something, you're not

528
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 5: pretreating it like olive oil.

529
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't pre treat anything. And I've never had

530
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: an issue either. I mean, it always just comes out.

531
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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

532
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe the Turgan's been, you know, doing great things,

533
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: and you're over here throwing five toidepods in your line

534
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Speaker 3: coming out launch.

535
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's find out what the experts is

536
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: on that same tip tied to go and can you

537
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: explain kind of how those work and like when best

538
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: to use them or when you should avoid them if

539
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: there's maybe certain stains that they're just not gonna help

540
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: with or make worse.

541
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: They're just a stain remover, you know, the way you

542
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: see them work on TV as somebody colors the stain

543
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: and it completely disappears. That doesn't really happen. There are

544
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: lots of those little travel stain removers. There's another one

545
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: I like better called Amdex. But what you do is

546
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: you put them on and they're just like a little

547
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: stain remover, like a little spot stain remover, And the

548
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: best way to do it is to put it on

549
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: and then like take a towel, you know. I do

550
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: this in my hotel sometimes, put a towel behind the

551
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: stain and then blot through with another wet towel with

552
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: a wet washcloth and just basically you're just washing that spot.

553
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. But because it's a pen, I

554
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: like put the put the detergent on there and then

555
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: just try to scratch it out. Yeah, yeah, just that

556
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: nothing doesn't work.

557
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 5: No, Just sometimes after using O'SE I was like, oh,

558
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: I should have just left the stain.

559
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: And then washed it.

560
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: Normally it looks weir around with this wet ass.

561
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: So they don't seem to dry for the rest of

562
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: the day.

563
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's working. Here's a good one.

564
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: People asked about if fabric softener is a scam.

565
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: M hmmm. I gave up on fabri softener a long

566
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 4: time ago.

567
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: He did, Yeah, just no results.

568
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: I was just like, why am I already?

569
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: Guy?

570
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm already putting ten typods in at

571
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 4: a time.

572
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've only I've thrown it in. Like if I

573
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: don't really don't even know what scenarios. If I'm staying

574
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: in an airbnb or something in there, it's there. I'm

575
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: like like a little treat.

576
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Fabric softener and dryer sheets and sand boosters. The way

577
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: they work is they coat the fabric. It's kind of waxy,

578
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: and it melts onto the fabric or it's fixed to

579
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: the fabric and it leaves this fake texture. One of

580
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: the problems with that is often they contain thallatees like

581
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: a thalate ester, and thalate esters are indo crend disruptors,

582
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: so they do a lot of things. None of them

583
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: are you know, are things I want? Yeah, I think

584
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 2: if you used lesser target are naturally soft cotton is

585
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: naturally soft. When your cotton feels crunchy or when it's

586
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: itchy or sticky, that's because there's too much detergent. Just

587
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: get that out and your clothes are soft. They don't

588
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: need anything else.

589
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 4: Wow, indicate it.

590
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't use it.

591
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: It's funny that it doesn't eat. It doesn't even actually

592
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: make your clothes leaves like.

593
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: It's like a very cosmetic effect, basically cover up. Yeah,

594
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: so stay safe out there for your health. The next

595
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: one was about dryer balls and dryer sheets.

596
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: Dryer sheets are no go. Dryer balls I love. Yeah,

597
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: those are good like wool dryer ball. I love them,

598
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 2: and they speed up your drying time. It will actually

599
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: shorten it. They also keep your clothes moving around the

600
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: edge of the dryer, so they're actually a little bit softer.

601
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: I think they're great, So use.

602
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: The dryer balls, not the dryer sheets.

603
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't think I have.

604
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: Someone who pays for their dry time.

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah you notice this. It's good to know, because yeah,

606
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: i'd pay for my dry time.

607
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: Too, because the normal when I would just do it

608
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: like similar to you, I do big loads. So when

609
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: I would do it before, if I did not put

610
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 5: more time on.

611
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: It, yeah, with the dryer balls.

612
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick some.

613
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

614
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Someone asked how to save T shirt collars in the wash?

615
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, any any tips.

616
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: A shorter cycle will do it, because that they stretch

617
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: out from those really long cycles. Okay, so a shorter cycle.

618
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, if that is something that

619
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: happens to you, like it happens to me because I

620
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: have a really big head, don't put them in the dryer,

621
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 2: and they tend to They tend to return to their

622
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: original shape a little bit better.

623
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: How often should we be washing clothes?

624
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I try to wash my things as infrequently as possible.

625
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: I wear my jeans nine or ten times before I

626
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: wash them. Yeah, and you know, I'm a germophobe. I

627
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: wear my shirts about three times. If I can, I

628
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: usually spill on them. I can't always make it three,

629
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: but I try. I wear my shirts about three times.

630
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: Things that go immediately next to your skin, like underwear, socks,

631
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: you should wash that every time you wear it, you know. Yeah,

632
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: things that are your like I'm gonna call it the

633
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: first layer. You need to wash more often. If you

634
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: wear shirts and you don't wear a T shirt and

635
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: you're very sweaty, you're gonna have to wash them more often.

636
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: Bacteria does live there. You know, if you go commando

637
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: in your jeans, you can't wear them as long.

638
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So where do you guys stand on these jeans?

639
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: And I really never wash It's like a need to

640
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: basis most pants, honestly, but especially jeans.

641
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: Like the only pants I wash some more frequently their sweatpants.

642
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

643
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: Longer. Yeah, any athletic where Yeah. Yeah. I like the.

644
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: Concept of the first line, yes, which means, as you

645
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: guys know, I most like to wear my hoodies with

646
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: without any T shirt under it, So you should be.

647
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: I got start washing those more often often if.

648
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: You don't really sweat that often.

649
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's true, you're not.

650
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Really sweaty guy. Yeah, I could never do. That's the

651
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: reason I would never not wear a shirt under a

652
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 5: hit like.

653
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: Because of the sweat.

654
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: Raw just my raw. But I want to wear a

655
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: sweat I want.

656
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: To preserve the sweatshirt.

657
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I'm putting that on raw. It's gonna

658
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: have to go and wash. Yeah.

659
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 5: The jeans, I don't even know how many times I want.

660
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: He knows that, he said ten times.

661
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: I don't. It's when God tells me there's not.

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Speaker 3: A I don't wash it for jeans.

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Speaker 4: And they're going right back in the pile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to be weir yea. My only absolute one use

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Speaker 1: is underwear and really yeah, and then like yeah, Jim.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes like yeah, you know, but yeah, I always

667
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Speaker 3: wear new socks if I leave the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll redo, I'll reado a software depending on what's

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Speaker 1: going on. Someone asked about any tricks to get the

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Speaker 1: mildew smell out of clothes that you've washed but forgot

671
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Speaker 1: to put in the dry or without rewashing them all

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Speaker 1: over again.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you this. I don't know this.

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Speaker 5: This is crazy because when we put out this ask,

675
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Speaker 5: the amount of responses that I got of like, I'll

676
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Speaker 5: wash my clothes, Oh, I forgot to put him in

677
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Speaker 5: the dryer. How do I get the smell out? How

678
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Speaker 5: often are people doing this? Like it's happened to me,

679
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Speaker 5: I've been that person. But it sounds like this is happening.

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Speaker 1: For that long that it would. Yes, yeah, so this is.

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Speaker 5: It seems like a big issue for people that they

682
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Speaker 5: wash their clothes and then just leave it for a

683
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Speaker 5: day or two.

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Speaker 1: Is another one.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't be me because my clothes will be on the

686
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Speaker 5: damn ground, but I'll be arrested.

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Speaker 2: I just run them through an express cycle with a

688
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Speaker 2: cup of vinegar. I wouldn't put more detergent in. Okay,

689
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Speaker 2: I'm just throwing a cup of vinegar and run them

690
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Speaker 2: back through. Like you could even do just the rents

691
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Speaker 2: if you want it, just the rent cycle, but just

692
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Speaker 2: a quick cycle. I mean, yes, there are other things

693
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Speaker 2: you could do, but honestly, it's not worth it. I mean,

694
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Speaker 2: this is the fastest way. Just run them through an

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Speaker 2: express cycle with some vinegar.

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Speaker 1: Former guest Walt Hickey Okay, Franchise Movies episode from July

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Speaker 1: that people sh listen to. He asked about that they

698
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Speaker 1: heard that we shouldn't dry clean suits and we should

699
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Speaker 1: get them steamed and pressed instead. Is this true?

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Speaker 2: I have one hundred percent for that. Okay, suits are

701
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Speaker 2: usually wool, They naturally repel dirt. Most of the time

702
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: people want to dry clean things. It's just because they

703
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: they're wrinkled, and you know you can steam them if

704
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: you invest in a steamer, and you can save yourself

705
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Speaker 2: so much money.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what what drag cleaners actually do?

707
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Speaker 2: Yeah, drag cleaners, it's it's kind of a dry cleaning

708
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Speaker 2: is dry because it's not water. It's still a liquid.

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Speaker 2: There are a few depending on what drag cleaners you

710
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Speaker 2: go to, there's a couple of are more common. They

711
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Speaker 2: run it through a liquid and it's sort of like

712
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Speaker 2: a wash. It's just a liquid that isn't water. Right.

713
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Speaker 2: The one thing dry cleaners do that's tough for a

714
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Speaker 2: lot of people at home is they have the really

715
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Speaker 2: great irons. Okay, you know, they can do the great

716
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Speaker 2: job at pressing that you can't really as easily achieve

717
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Speaker 2: at home. You know, if you buy a good iron

718
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Speaker 2: and you get a spray bottle so that you can

719
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Speaker 2: build up some extra water, you know, some mist to

720
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Speaker 2: create extra steam, you can do a pretty good job

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Speaker 2: at home. I mean, I washed my suits in the

722
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Speaker 2: washing machine, but I have a great iron, so I

723
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Speaker 2: can stand, you know, I can iron them back and

724
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Speaker 2: I recommend that. Like if somebody is like, oh, I

725
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: wear a suit every day, I'm like, you need to

726
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 2: buy a really good steam generating iron because you will

727
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Speaker 2: save money.

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Speaker 3: That is fascinating. I'm so a little confused. It's it's

729
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Speaker 3: called dry cleaning because it's not water, but it is liquid.

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Speaker 3: So it's not really dry cleaning.

731
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Speaker 1: It's chemicals. Yeah, but I think they're doing a mixture

732
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Speaker 1: of overall clean and I'm sure they do a spot

733
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Speaker 1: clean yea. I imagine lots of people are because.

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Speaker 3: So will you wash the washer suits?

735
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Speaker 1: And that's scary.

736
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Speaker 3: That's a little scary.

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Speaker 1: I think if I think if I was if I

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Speaker 1: had to wear a suit every day for work, yeah,

739
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Speaker 1: like when I get my promotion at A P. Morgan,

740
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Speaker 1: then I'll do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then I would watch it like then, but like I.

742
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Speaker 1: Wear a bulk wash them about three times a year, yeah,

743
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Speaker 1: liberally yeah, yeah, so for me, I can drag lean

744
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Speaker 1: your wedding.

745
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Speaker 3: Was the only time I wore a suit this year?

746
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Speaker 1: I think that was maybe one of two times I ever

747
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Speaker 1: won one, and the other time was another one.

748
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Speaker 5: But sometimes see something like that, right, I got wear

749
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Speaker 5: exactly and it'll be like, okay, like this is not

750
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Speaker 5: really dirty, yeah exactly. I want to the next time

751
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Speaker 5: I wear it for it to be like look fresh. Yeah,

752
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Speaker 5: which is like he's saying, it's mostly just like an

753
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Speaker 5: ironing situation.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I guess between why wears, you know, I'll

756
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Speaker 5: just iron it.

757
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially Yeah.

758
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Speaker 1: There's nothing major happening now. We just have a few

759
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Speaker 1: more shorter ones. He mentioned he has, you know, a

760
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Speaker 1: Culture Club T shirt he bought back in the day

761
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: that he really loves. I asked, what's the best way

762
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Speaker 1: to maintain a printed graph on a T shirt?

763
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lip it inside out. Never use fabric softer

764
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Speaker 2: because it will actually cause the print to separate from

765
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Speaker 2: the garment. And do not put those in the dryer.

766
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: So I mean thing about it. They're set with heat,

767
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Speaker 2: so if you put them in with heat, it's going

768
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Speaker 2: to set them just like it's set them.

769
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Speaker 1: I asked, just what are the most common mistakes or

770
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Speaker 1: misconceptions people have when it comes to washing clothes class

771
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Speaker 1: In case you missed anything, Yeah, in this list of

772
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Speaker 1: thirty questions.

773
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: It's the idea of too much, too long of a cycle,

774
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: too much detergent in both cases less as more or

775
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: shorter cycles moless detergent and you're better off.

776
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: And then lastly, he left us off with two tips.

777
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Speaker 2: Number one is for things that you put in the

778
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Speaker 2: dryer that will get static. I'm thinking I live in Minnesota,

779
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: so polar fleece, you know, or fleece is a big

780
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: one for me. You can use a ball made of

781
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: aluminum foil. Take a one yard piece of aluminum foil,

782
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: make a ball the size of a softball, and throw

783
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: it in the dryer. You can use it as many

784
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: times as you can until it gets the size of

785
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: a wallet. But it will remove static better than anything

786
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: you've ever used. That's another way you can ditch dryer sheets,

787
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: because that's the reason people like them. The other one

788
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: that's really funny, and it depends on who you are.

789
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: But if let's say you're standing with a group of smokers,

790
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: or you go to a restaurant and you leave and

791
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: you smell like the restaurant. The shirt's clean, but it

792
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: has some sort of odor, or your coat in January

793
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: smells kind of stale because it's the middle of winter

794
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: and you don't want to clean it. Everything else is clean,

795
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: it just the odors off. You can spray it with

796
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: really cheap vodka. Vodka will remove the odor from anything,

797
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 2: and when vodka drives the unique characteristic to it, it's

798
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: odorless and colorless. So you can spray it on and

799
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: then it's dry and it's over. There's no washing, So

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: if you smell like cigarette smoke, spray it with vodka,

801
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: let it hang for twenty minutes and then the odor's gone

802
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: and you can put it back in your closet.

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00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: This is something we needed growing up, you know, in

804
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: an East African household. Food the food I would get

805
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: my ass fried at school every day. It's just like

806
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: the garlic and the stews, like it really sticks onto

807
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: the clothes. It doesn't matter how much you wash them.

808
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: But now and I know, I could just break viegar.

809
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: Next time you stumble home, you know, late from the bar,

810
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: to tell your wife, you know, cleaning.

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00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly is that is that.

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00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: My clothes are really clean? What you think? So let's

813
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: do some takeaways. What's the the biggest thing you learned

814
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: from this?

815
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 4: All right?

816
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: Is this going to change your habits?

817
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: Now?

818
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: Well, someone who pays someone to come pick up my laundry, what.

819
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: He's doing you're doing?

820
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: You should maybe shoutow them once and be like, I

821
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: do want to see what's going on back there?

822
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: Now, I kind of I'm I think I'm gonna separate.

823
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: Next week, I'm gonna separate. I'm gonna wash.

824
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: While separating is tough, separating because everything else I'm I'm

825
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: good to its separating.

826
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: Issue with separating is then my load sizes are all exactly.

827
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: I will separate if it works, or it's.

828
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Speaker 1: Like, okay, maybe I have to do a white week

829
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: and then a colored week.

830
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Speaker 4: I do do.

831
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 5: I do do white weeks, brock white weeks with my

832
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: sheets because I have pairs of white sheets. Saw wait

833
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: two weeks to do all of the white sheets at once,

834
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 5: and then I'll put any other whites with them, socks

835
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Speaker 5: and shirts. So I'm washing on warm, warm warm next Monday,

836
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 5: my washday, I'm gonna wash on warm.

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00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna amount of detergent was a huge.

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00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: That's my big yeah, which is great.

839
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna ditch the tide pods. I think

840
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do powder to try powder next because I

841
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: already said I always already do my baking soda, so

842
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 5: I can just add my detergent to that. I have

843
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: my baggage that I use, so I'll do each two

844
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 5: baggage for my two loads. I already do it upstairs.

845
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna do two baggies with my bake and soda,

846
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 5: and then I'm just gonna put in my detergent in

847
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Speaker 5: there and a lot less than.

848
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Speaker 4: Yeah, go along with Yeah, I'm gonna have that deterreeent forever.

849
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some dryer.

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00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: Balls probably have to last so much longer. I'm gonna

851
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: play this episode for the guy who.

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00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Does my laundry.

853
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: Hey, have a you might want to hear some of this. Hey,

854
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: before you take this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Give me your phone. So I hope we answered all

856
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: your questions. If there's anything we missed, please shoot us

857
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: an email or a voicemail and we will try to

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00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: get an answer for you to the best of our ability.

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00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: We'll put a video of what dry cleanings actually do

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Speaker 1: on our substeck. You can just tell people to google it.

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00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, go for a video.

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Speaker 3: Actually, do Google Google.

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00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: Check out this website called YouTube dot com.

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Speaker 4: We should win a Nobel Peace Prize for this poet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're handing those two fucking anybody.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Such thing as a production of Kaleidoscope content. Our executive

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: producers are Kate Osborne and Mangeshkur. The show is created

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Speaker 1: by Manny Fidel, Noah Friedman, and Devin Joseph. Themeon credits

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Speaker 1: song by Manny Fidel, mixing by our boy Steve bone

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Speaker 1: big thanks to Patrick richardson our wonderful guest Is It

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