1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Here's the snaps looking tux the ball, timing for the 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: pilot that he's got it. Brazzle tassle, touchdown, the two 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: stands and the Texans go in front. There is no 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: off season for your buston. Texans. Game day is every day. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: We had a lot of energy and we brought a 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: lot of spark for this organization. Five nights a week. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: They hits keep on coming. The Texans say they have it, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and they go no, it's Texans all excess. Yes, it 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: is happy about everybody. In a beautiful day from the 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: city of Houston. We're past the middle of may state, 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: starting to open up, good things hopefully on the horizon. 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access. I am your host from 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: still my domicile, John Harris football and also a salad reporter, 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and I am joined by the voice of the Texans 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: in his location. I still think he is at home. 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: It's Mark Vanimer. Mark, how are you, Jeff? A great weekend? Yeah, 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually uh in Antarctica because it's cooler there now. 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm really not at home and it's wonderful. And I 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: love what Abbott said today. I know we're we're getting there. 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but we're getting there, and uh, 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: maybe we'd never really get all the way there. Who 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: knows what's gonna go now, but this is cool and 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: pro sports are allowed in the state of Texas in 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: some form or fashion in the month of June. So 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: that's great, Johnny. Yeah, you're you're right. And I mean, 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: as we have said many many times on this show 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: and draft show and during a draft and anything we write, 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: it almost feels like you have to couch what all 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: we say with Look, we understand what's going on, we 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: know what's going on. There are a lot of people 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: still suffering from what's going on. So we we get it. 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: We know our we know our place, and we know 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: what we need to be doing. Um, but we're hard 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: to talk about football, talk about the Texans, and that 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: is what we planned to do. But that was that 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: was some some good information. I know there are probably 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: some people saying, did you see this report? You see 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: that report? You know what I've gotten to where I 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: don't even know which report to even listen to read. 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Believe I don't. I don't know where where I really 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: stand on all that, And I just the governor of 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: my state says, hey, you can do this. You can 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: do that, but let's do this. Let's do that, and 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: then obviously apply some common sense to it. I'm all 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: for it, and I'm all about it. Let's do it safely, 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's do let's do things one step at 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: a time safely. We can't do what we're gonna do 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: a month from now today, so let's do whatever we 49 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: can today and keep it safe and keep moving forward. 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that, I mean, I know there's 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: a lot of disagreement about how to approach this. That's 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: my biggest disappointment here is that we don't really you 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: don't really know what the goal line is, right Johnny. 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you're driving across the fifty yard line, 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: but where is the end zone? Is it fifty yards away? 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Is it sixty yards away? Is it thirty yards? Where's 57 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the goal line? And what what's the shape of the 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: goal line? Is it a straight line or is it 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: sort of in amba like bending line that changes for 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: because I really don't know. I mean, based on based 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: on everything we've been told, there is no one can 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: tell me what the real goal is other than complete 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: eradication vaccine that would work. Other than that, I get that, 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: but that's not a that that goal line is not 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: fifty yards away. It's a thousand yards away maybe, and 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever get to it. So 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: let's just hope for the beout. I love that they're 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: making progress. Some companies are making progress with vaccines and everything. Great, 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: whatever we can do to get back. Because we saw 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Buda playing over the weekend, and uh, I watched it, 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, I watched it without fans. I watched some 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: of it. It was very weird, but it was soccer, 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not a big soccer viewer anyway, 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: but it was on and I thought, well, if football 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: were like this, you know, i'd be watching it, so 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, I I I tuned into that for 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: a little while. And I can't remember who scored who. 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I can't remember who yellow team. I just there was 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: the yellow team. I know. My Premier League teams a 80 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: little better than no Boonish league, which my nephew would 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: be very very disappointed with me because he is absolutely 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: completely fluent in German. And he was absolutely completely fluent 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: in German by ninth grade. It was amazing. Uh. He 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: went to Germany, spent a year in college or I 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: mean a semester in college going over to Germany can 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: speak it completely. And so he has Boonish League of teams, 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Premier League teams. But it was just good to see 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: sports again, to seek competition again, and hopefully we are 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: going to get to a point where we can put 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: butts and seats and people can get back in there. 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing as as I 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you know this this weekend is I would kind of 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: float through YouTube or you know, NFL dot com or 94 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: whatever and pull up a game and watch it, and 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: you just it's so interesting to watch it. It's almost 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: like on a different level but somewhat the same when 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: you watch a game and you're like, man, look at 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: all these people. Oh, I know what I did yesterday. 99 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: I got up and for some reason when I got 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: when I got up, I went to just check what 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: was on, I think it was really on. I was like, 102 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: all right on. So I went to NFL dot Com 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: and I have the game pass, and so one of 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: the games that popped up was a replay of our 105 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: wildcard wildcard win over the Bills. So typically, and you know, Mark, 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: I will get the game copy all twenty two and 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: the end Zone view and I'll watch that, and I'll 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: watched the the sped up copy which cuts out all 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the commercials, which I absolutely love. But for some reason, 110 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: I just had the TV copy with no commercials and 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: just watched like from JJ sack on and it was 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: really awesome to watch. It was really cool to watch. 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: But as I'm watching it, I'm like, man, look at 114 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: all those people clustered together. Oh my gosh, look at 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: these guys celebrating. Holy cow. You know, look these guys 116 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: all run up and hugg to Sean. You know, I 117 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: mean so forbidden. Yes, like all these things that over 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of months that we have not been 119 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: able to do. I watched that and go, man, that 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: was that was the beginning of this year. That was 121 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year. Yeah. And then you're 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: watching your game in Germany and soccer and he's the 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: guy scores and it's just like yay, all right, And 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, so it's very different. This is gonna 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: be one gigantic asterisk, maybe assuming we can get back 126 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: to normal at some point soon, and maybe it's day one, 127 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but if it's not Day one. It 128 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be really weird to look back in ten years, 129 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: assuming we're all back together, and see what this era, 130 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: what this mini and I hope it's very many Mini 131 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: era was like in sports, was like in life, of course, 132 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: and the long lasting effects. The sound in the stadium, 133 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: it was echoing. They you know, they had the PA going, 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: they were playing whatever they were playing. I think they 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: played some songs after they scored, things like that or 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: whatever whatever they were doing, but it was it was 137 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: bouncing all over the place. And you know, you and 138 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I talked about this on Friday that you know, I 139 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: really don't want to see Crowddoise pumped into the audio 140 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: of the broadcast. I don't mind it in the stadium, 141 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily Crowddoise, but music and stingers and things like that. 142 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm at the stadium. I just don't want to pumped 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: into into the game audio. And uh, you know, we'll 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: see how that plays out. I mean, I don't know 145 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: if it's gonna come to that. You know, maybe by 146 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: maybe by two and a half months from now, we're thinking, 147 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: all right, we can we can get some fans in here, 148 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, socially distanced or whatever. However it would look 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: like we get some fans in here and get some 150 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: real noise. That'd be cool. Yeah, it would be It 151 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: would be very cool. And we've made a lot of progress. 152 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of progress to be made. But 153 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned you know the goal line moving? 154 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: Is it fifty yards away? Is one hundred yards away? 155 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Where is it? And in all honesty, the best thing 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: you can do is just keep getting first downs, baby, 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do. Well, you know, I 158 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: like that reminds me. That's how I tell people who 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: are searching for a job, you know, and and a 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: lot of people right now of course, or or you know, 161 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: anything in sales or job search where you have to 162 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: get through this massive pile of whatever you want to 163 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: call rock or whatever substance you can metaphorically imagine, and 164 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: you don't know where the other side is, and you 165 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: just keep chipping away and eventually you'll hit your goal. 166 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: You don't know if it's gonna be a hundred yards 167 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: through that thing or if it's gonna be just a 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: foot away, but you gotta keep chipping away. And that's 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: what we have to do here, keep chipping away at 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: this thing. And maybe you know there's a breakthrough, there's 171 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: a vaccine. We wake up one day thaying, oh my gosh, 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: if you if you mix, you know, i'd be profit 173 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: And well, that actually was not a good idea, I 174 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: guess early on, and I that that disappeared. I don't 175 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: know what happened to that information. But you know, if 176 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: you make vitamin C with with dog food, you're good 177 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: to go. I don't know. If people don't want to 178 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: do that, no, I don't know. Maybe they'll they'll find something. 179 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Who knows. What would that brings up a really interesting question? 180 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: What would you be willing to do? What vaccine would 181 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: you not be willing to take? What do you mean? 182 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: Like you said dog food? I'm like, you know, I 183 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: would serve up the furrena if it gets us back 184 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: to work and I only have to take it once. Especially, 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I'll be like, hello, alpo made no not a speca cereal. Everybody, 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go back to work. Get the world 187 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: going again. Oh man, there I want the world going again. 188 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: But man, there might just be some places. I mean 189 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I would have to, I would have to, I could. 190 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I could have thought of something a lot better. I 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I was blanking out shatty dog food came 192 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: to mind. I was like, oh God, no, like, oh 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: what dog food? All right, later in the show, Mark 194 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: and I are going to do gut reaction NFL rules changes. Now, 195 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: this was to be the week that the NFL owners 196 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: were going to meet out in Marina Del Rey, Okay, 197 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, to discuss various rules changes that they couldn't 198 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: discuss at the owners meetings that were going to happen 199 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: in March. I believe this is gonna be all be done. Virtually. 200 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I came up with, let's see eight at least eight 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: rules chan changes, some not changes, some staying the same, 202 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: some different things that I'm gonna throw up Mark and 203 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: get his gut reaction. But Mark, I think to start 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: to show of course, starting to show it. Minutes and 205 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: last night was the finish of the Last Dance. Yeah, 206 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: and it was a it was a tremendous documentary. And 207 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: I know, obviously for some people to be some controversy 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: about Jordan and how you know, Jordan went about his 209 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: way and you know, Jerry Krauss maybe didn't get his 210 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: just due. Maybe they needed to expand upon the Jerry 211 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Krause situation. Maybe give him a little bit more kudos 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: for what he did. And obviously he has passed away, 213 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: so he wasn't there to defend for himself. So anyhow, 214 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: But to me, one of the stories in episodes nine 215 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: to ten was the one of Steve Kurt. Now I 216 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: you know what, spoiler alert, not spoiler alert, This one 217 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: has been out there for a long time. Steve Kerr 218 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: lost his dad. He was assassinated as he was the 219 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: president of America University over in Beirut and lost his 220 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: dad early. And I really didn't put two and two 221 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: together last night until Steve Kerr is being interviewed and 222 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: you can hear the producer, director Jason here asked him, 223 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: did you and Michael ever talk about your father's situations? 224 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my gosh, I totally forgot 225 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: about that. And they spent a lot of time on 226 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, and for good reason, because Kerr ended up 227 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: making a number of big shots, showing up in big moments, 228 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: one of those being nineteen ninety eight Eastern Conference Finals 229 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Game six. He hit some big shots against Indana Pacers 230 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: in a game that Michael only had twenty nine. But 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was a huge part I think he had 232 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: eleven points and he made every big shot imaginable. And 233 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: there was one where they were down three and he 234 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: had a three to tie it, and the Pacers all 235 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: said Reggie Miller talked about it and said, that was 236 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: the one that really that killed it, that killed our 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: spirit because he misses that we go down to go 238 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: up five we win. That the Bulls don't win that championship. 239 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: And it got me thinking, Mark as I watched that, 240 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: they spent some time on Kurr, and I was glad 241 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: they did. That team had Jordan, that team had Pippin. 242 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: They were the stars. We all knew about Rodman, but 243 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was one of the better. He was one 244 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: of the better unsung heroes for championship teams, like a 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: consistent guy that was a was an unsung hero. It's 246 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: like got me thinking, who for Texans teams or championship 247 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: teams would you say falls into this Steve Kurt unsung 248 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: hero class. I came up with a few, but I 249 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: want to hear what you have to say. Well, I've 250 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: got the ultimate one, the ultimate Texans unsung hero. And 251 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, as I say unsung, he sung for a 252 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: big moment. So you can probably already guess who I'm 253 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: talking about, But he was so unsung for so long, 254 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: to the point where it's sort of angered a lot 255 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: of the pundits about why they wouldn't upgrade at his position. 256 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Kevin Walter because Kevin Walter, remember 257 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: Walter leaves and then they draft DeAndre Hopkins, right, and 258 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: you know, so they upgraded there its terms of I mean, 259 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, clearly, you know, no offense to Kevin, he 260 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: would be the first to emit. Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins upgrade 261 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: over me. But Walter was so good at what he 262 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: did as a blocker, as a teammate as I mean, 263 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: how much do you think Bill O'Brien's crew would love 264 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: to have a guy like Kevin and Walter on their team? 265 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he is like the epitome of what they're 266 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: looking for in terms of the locker room and the 267 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: presence and the practice, love to practice, gave it as 268 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: all in practice. And here is a player who knew 269 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: that if he didn't do all those things, you know, 270 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: he's one step to being out of the league. You know, 271 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not like you know, he's a first round draft pick, 272 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: and you know, and he's got He's a talented. Everybody 273 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL's talented, but he doesn't have Andre Johnson 274 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins talent. Okay, he know, he knew he had 275 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: to put it out there every single day he caught. 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 1: I still say it's probably the most important touchdown in 277 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: the history of the franchise. You know, it's it's certainly 278 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: one of it's debatable the one against Cincinnati and the 279 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: playoff clincher or the division clincher in twenty eleven, but 280 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: that was it. I mean, that was the big moment. 281 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: There weren't too many other really huge moments, but he 282 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: was on the field for so many and he was 283 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: a great blocker downfield. Aryan ran for all those yards. 284 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Aaron would probably say really good things about Walter springing 285 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: blocks downfield. And when I say the pundits always wanted 286 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: to upgrade that position, they kind of did because it 287 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: wasn't like there was there were just buckets of catches, 288 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: but he did the little things, and everyone, you know, 289 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: sort of got upset, like, where are those little things? 290 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: We don't see those on the stat sheet. Well, the 291 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: coaches saw them, and he was part of some really 292 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: good teams. I think when it comes to stats. It's 293 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: interesting because I've said I've said this often. If you 294 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: can't quantify it, then people are unable a lot of 295 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: times to discern is it good? Is it bad? And 296 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: they like, well, wait a second, how do I how 297 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: do I determine how good he is as a run blocker? Well, 298 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: you can watch and see. Yeah, yeah, but you can't. 299 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: You can't wantify that, So I can't tell you, well, yeah, 300 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: you have to sit there and watch and see. And 301 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I think Kevin did a lot of those things that 302 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: were not quantifiable and and so that that's a good one, 303 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: the one that I came up with. And I think 304 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are very often underrated or offen on sung heroes. 305 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: But I think for the Texans, because the offensive line 306 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: had not been great for a long time, that when 307 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line became great, it was like, oh my god, 308 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: look at Dwayne Brown is turning into a pro bowler. 309 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: And Eric Winston from the knee injury that he had 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: at university in Miami, he's really turning into a big 311 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: time tackle. I felt like there was one guy that 312 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: didn't really get talked about in that. You know, Chester 313 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: obviously was so good at the media, so he was always, 314 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a darling. But I always feel 315 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: like Mike Brizell never really got the credit for which 316 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: he was due. And I think that offensive line would 317 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: have been good without him, but I think he gave 318 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: it just a little different, a little different flavor to it. 319 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: He was a tough guy that played through some stuff. Man. 320 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: He was to me as unsung as it gets. And 321 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: obviously offensive linemen are always unsung, but I feel like, 322 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, with Wade going to a Pro Bowl, Duane 323 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: went to a Pro Bowl, Chris went to a Pro Bowl, 324 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Winston was very well known. I felt like Mike was 325 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: that guy that just didn't get a lot of credit 326 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: for the value that he that he brought to the team. 327 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: So from a Texas perspective, that was that was one 328 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that that was one that really stood out to me 329 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: as another unsung hero. Okay, you got another one, I'll 330 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: give you one from the current crop. And we do 331 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: talk about him from time to time, but and he 332 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: tends to show, he tends to show up around the football. 333 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Angela Blackson is a player who is on that d 334 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: line and you know, we all know his story. Fourth 335 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: round Raft Joyce from the Tennessee Titans who just didn't 336 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: work out there for him, ends up here, gets that 337 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: can contract here, and you know, he's just one of 338 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: those guys, you know. I think DJ Dunny is kind 339 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: of along those nine. Now Dunny has the Clubhouse DJ title, 340 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: and you know, he's a great interview and all that, 341 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: but in some ways he's unsung. I love players like 342 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: this who you know, he's been on a practice squad 343 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: seven times in his career. Now, I think about that 344 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: for a moment. Seven times he's been on a practice 345 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: squad now sometimes with the same squad the Giants, the 346 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: Texans a couple of times each, you know, but eventually 347 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: catches on as a you know, contributor, you know, relative 348 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: full time. I can't call him a starter full time. 349 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: One year he started ten games, but he's in there 350 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot, and he's back. You know, they made sure 351 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: he's coming back this year. But those guys, you know, 352 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about the middle class, but they 353 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: fall into that unsung category. I think on a championship team, 354 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was obviously a big one. Is there any 355 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: more well known unsung hero then big shot Bob Robert 356 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: or Yeah, But he's so he's so on song that 357 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: he sung that they write songs about him because of 358 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: all the big shots. I mean that was you know, 359 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: in the os big and when I was doing a 360 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of shows on sports Radio six ten. You want 361 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: the phone string and start talking about or Hall of 362 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: Famer or not, you know, Like I always thought, Okay, 363 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: he deserves his own little spot in the Hall of Fame, 364 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: like an exhibit, but not an induction. You know what 365 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He doesn't. He doesn't deserve and shrine mean necessarily, 366 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: but he certainly deserves recognition because there's a difference. I'll 367 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: give you one. And he actually made All Star teams, 368 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know that he ever was really truly 369 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: appreciated for what he did for the Pistons in their 370 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: early o's and I was rip Hamilton. Wow. Now that's 371 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: it's pushing it a little bit because I think he 372 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: did get Allstar, he did get All Star Games Championship team, 373 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: but he was a he was a rare guy in 374 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: that he was overshadowed by Chauncey Bills. He was overshadowed 375 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: by guys that maybe didn't score as much. But we're 376 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: elite at some of the other things. I mean, you 377 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: had Ben Wallace, he had Rashid Wallace. You know, Ben 378 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Wallace was such an elite rebounder, she did pretty much anything. 379 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: And Rip just kind of quietly just scored, but really 380 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: just scored. And he was kind of a rare guy 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: that didn't probably get enough credit for being a as 382 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: tough as he was. And b the amount of times 383 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: he had to score for that team that really couldn't 384 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: That was really not a team with Larry Brown leading 385 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: the way, that scored a ton of points, and Rid 386 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: was the guy that had to do it. Johnny that 387 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: that whole team was unsung. I mean, and Larry Brown 388 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: to me, was the most celebrated personality on that basketball 389 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: or in that basketball organization. Really it's Larry Brown winning 390 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: his title and he's you know, we that debate goes 391 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: on who's the greatest NBA coach. Ever, it's not. Look, 392 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: it's not Larry Brown. But Larry Brown's up there considering 393 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: what he did with so many different teams and the 394 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: way he was able to, yeah, to get teams to 395 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: go beyond what you would think they could do. It's 396 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: funny how all three Pistons Championship teams different eras between 397 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: the first two and the last one, but none of 398 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: them have players that you would say this guy was 399 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time or among the great you know, 400 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Isaiah's among the greatest point guards, and Jordan said in 401 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: the show that he's the second best he's ever seen. Yeah, 402 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to go there, but 403 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's certainly in the conversation for that kind 404 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: of hated. Hey, everybody hated. I couldn't stand I mean, 405 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't stand them. I mean, most unsung Super Bowl 406 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: team as far as that kind of thing goes, is it. 407 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: It's not the Buccaneers because the d line was flashy 408 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: with Warren Sapp. It's not the Ravens the first installment 409 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: with Gilfer definitely. Is it one of those Redskins teams 410 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: like the Rippin Redskins or something like that, or yeah, 411 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you, I'll give you one. I'll give you one. 412 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: Now it's kind of it's kind of stretching the boundaries 413 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. But they did have Drew Brees. But 414 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: that Oh nine Saints team, and I don't know, some 415 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: of that gets lost in history too, because they had 416 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: to hold bounty, the bounty gate and all that that 417 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: went with it. But that you know, there's the first 418 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: thing you gotta do is come up with which team 419 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with Justin Okay quarterback. I'll give 420 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: you one now. He ended he's gonna end up being 421 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: one of the greats and has. In fact, there was 422 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: news about him today because he posted a video and 423 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: that has been Roethlisberger when he was a second year 424 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: quarterback for the two thousand and five Steelers. Yeah, but 425 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: you know what, they went fifteen and won his rookie 426 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: year when he did win the Super Bowl, and so 427 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: you felt like a star is born. And that was 428 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: the second year he's into Super Bowl. You felt like 429 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: a lot of super Bowls are coming and it is 430 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers, Johnny the Eagles, I mean Nick Foles taking 431 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's a very unsung kind of team, you know, 432 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean ten years from now, not too many people 433 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to name too many Eagles from 434 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the REQUA. That's a good The Eagles is a good one, 435 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: maybe less than maybe less than any team in the 436 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: last twenty years. As far as like what is the 437 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: lasting brand name recognition as far as the athletes who 438 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: won this Super Bowl, they're gonna be right in the 439 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: they'll probably lead the way. Yeah, that's true. That's that's 440 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: a good point. Now that oh five Steelers team barely 441 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: made the playoffs, barely, but because in O four they 442 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: were so good and then again they won it oh eight, 443 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: and because the quarterback is Roethlisberger, the long held story 444 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: will be, well, you know, Roethlisberger. No, Roethlisberger actually sort 445 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: of held them back. He had a horrible Super Bowl 446 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks, and of course they got they 447 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a gift in that. But uh, yeah, 448 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: you know what that eiels that's a that's a really 449 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: that's a really good one, especially when Wentz goes down 450 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: and I was watching that the other day. There was 451 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: like a thirty minute I think it was kind of 452 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: the the do your Job Philadelphia Eagles version where they 453 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: talked to the coaches about key plays and key moments 454 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: in the season and things that they did, and it 455 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: was it was really really good. So it was going 456 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: back and reliving all that you forget when Wentz went out, 457 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: they were an underdog the entire rest of the way. 458 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: The entire rest of the way and ended up winning 459 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. So I think it definitely definitely goes 460 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: to your point. Okay, we get back. It's gut reaction. 461 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw some NFL possible, possible NFL rules changes, 462 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: whether I agree with it or not, I'm gonna throw 463 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: at Mark and see what his gut reaction will be 464 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: able to do that extra here in Texas All Access. 465 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: For the most in depth coverage of your favorite team 466 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: and players, check out Houston Texas dot com. Don't miss 467 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: a moment of your Houston Texans three hundred and sixty 468 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: five days a year. Download the Houston Texans Mobile lapp. Yes, 469 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: do it, add that app, Add that app, Put it 470 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: on hughst Texans dot com. Make sure you get the app, 471 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: the app store, whatever app store or whatever, iOS, Windows, 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: whatever you use Android. I don't even know I use 473 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: ioas I use Apple, so I don't even know how 474 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: to speak y'alls language, but h go get it. Just 475 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: go get it and put it on your phone device, 476 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: whatever device you use, and you'll be all set. John 477 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Harris here, Mark Vandimer there, and Mark and I have 478 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: done this segment called gut Reaction for a while. It's 479 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: pretty simple. I just have a statement, I put it 480 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: in front of Marc and I get his reaction to it. Well, 481 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: I thought today as I was as I was having 482 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: my run, I got to thinking about I don't know why, 483 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: I got to thinking about the two minute warning and 484 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: how the NFL has it but the colleges didn't. And 485 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: then I start thinking about different things that the NFL 486 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: has a college doesn't. College has, the NFL doesn't, and 487 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: it's got to go back and forth. Done all that, 488 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I know what I want to 489 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: do tonight. We call it gut reaction NFL rules changes, 490 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: Mark Vanimer, are you ready? I'm ready? Okay, So here's 491 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: number one. Now, this one. I am a staunch, staunch 492 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: believer in your gut reaction to this rule change. Now, 493 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: I will say that not all these have been proposed 494 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: by the by NFL teams. These are that have I 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: have proposed. I think this one solves a lot of issues. 496 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: Offensive fumble goes either to the defense or back to 497 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: the offense at the spot of the fumble. No advancement 498 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: of a fumble by the offense. The offense should not 499 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: benefit from a forward fumble. Likewise, no touch back on 500 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: a fumble through the end zone. The defense must recover 501 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: it to take over your gut reaction to that, all right, 502 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: So but let's say I'm on the five yard line 503 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: and and it's first to go from the five, and 504 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm running in and a fumble at the four and 505 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: it goes out of the back of the end zone. 506 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: Where am I getting the ball? I get the ball 507 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: back at the four at the spot of the fumble, 508 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: at the spot of the fumble. I'll take it. That's 509 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: a good one. But but so I can't advance a fumble. 510 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: It is a weird rule. The back of the end 511 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: of something is weird because you're not allowed to advance 512 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: a fumble, right, so you know, there's no holy roller 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: that Kenny Stable Charger's neck. So people are like, what, 514 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll get you where this I'll tell you where this 515 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: one comes from. I'll tell you where if you people 516 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: don't know where this comes from. My theory on this. 517 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: First of all, I think the fumble through the the 518 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone or the sideline in 519 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: the end zone being a touch back, I think it's ridiculous. 520 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: And I played defense, and I think that rule is 521 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: ridiculous when it comes from his back. In twenty seventeen, 522 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: we were at Seattle and Russell Wilson went back to pass. 523 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: There's a third down play and Clowney hit Russell Wilson's 524 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: arm and when he hit his arm, the ball actually 525 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: came out of his hand and he came out like 526 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: kind of a pseudo spiral. So it hit the ground 527 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: and it bounced forward. Well, everybody saw Wilson's arm go forward, 528 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and all but two players stopped. And it was Andre 529 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Howe and it was Luke Wilson, the tight end. Well, 530 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Wilson ran over and got on top of it. The 531 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: officials initially ruled incomplete pass. They came out to kick 532 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: a field goal. Pete Carroll challenged it and won the 533 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: challenge that it was a fumble, and when Wilson got 534 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: on it, it made it a first down. They scored 535 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown a few plays later. There's no way that 536 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: a fumble should benefit the offense. Yeah, I'm never should 537 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: happen with you. But let's say this though, Johnny. Let's 538 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: say a Texan fell on it. So it's that it 539 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: went forward. You just get it where you recover. You 540 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: get it where you recovered, Okay, get it where you recovered. 541 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: I remember that play because I was and I think 542 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: I talked about because it was a year before. At 543 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: that time, the thrumble from Osmiler and dead bod. I 544 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: was saying, if that was a fumble, how is this 545 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: not one? Right? I don't know. I felt that way 546 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: at the time, and you're right, and I was right, 547 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: and I was right, yeah, because I wanted it to 548 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: be an incomplete pass. But if we had okay, we 549 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: all did. It cost us four points. It cost us 550 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: four points. But under this rule, the Seahawks did recover it, 551 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: so the Seahawks would maintain possession, but it would go 552 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: back to where the ball was fumbled, where the ball 553 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: was initially fumbled, So the Seahawks still at the ball, 554 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: but it would go back to where Russell Wilson was 555 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: initially hit and fumbled. The defense should not lose out 556 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: in y'all, fence should not benefit. So that's my first one. Okay, okay, 557 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: you remember week seventeen, late in a game, Titans I 558 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: think had a seven point lead and it was in 559 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and they were trying to run clocks, 560 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: so they did that garbage thing with Wesley Woodyard where 561 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: he jumped off side purposely and then they ran at 562 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: lay a game and they were able to do it. 563 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: I call that the Rabel slash Belichick rule. Yea, that 564 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: is completely and totally illegal. It's a fifteen yard penalty 565 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: if you are caught because it is a sort of 566 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: what's tamanship. Yeah, it's gainsmanship, but it needs to go away. 567 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: It's completely gone if you're caught doing Its fifteen yeard 568 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: penalty for you. Not the spirit of competition yet. Yes, 569 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for. Did he do it against 570 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots too? And he did it against Patriots? The 571 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Patriots or the first one to do it, and then 572 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Rabel did it against us. He had done it, I 573 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: think the week before, but then he did it against 574 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots and Belichick lost his mind. Was actually within 575 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: the rules. He made Belichick lose his mind. I do 576 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: like that. That was pretty good. Okay, Number four we 577 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: are adding a sky judge. Sky judge has ten seconds 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: to report and egregious foul, no replay. If it's missed 579 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: then and he catches it or she catches it, they 580 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: they rule down. Hey you missed a face mask. It's 581 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty. Boom, there's no review whatever, the 582 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: sky judge says, goes your gut reaction, Wait a minute, though, 583 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: he has ten seconds to stop the game and then 584 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: look at it correct. Nope, you're not. No, you gotta 585 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: make the decision in tense. And this is why I 586 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: say that. This is why I say that because the 587 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: word egregious, because when we have had situations like, first 588 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: of all, go back to the playoff game against the 589 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Colts after the eighteen season, Dashan's face mask. It's so 590 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: evident everybody but somebody in a striped shirt. It was 591 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: so obvious when Deshan got up, he's going. He goes 592 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: over to him, he gives him the signal a face mask. Well, 593 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: in those ten seconds, the sky judge ought to be 594 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: able to figure out, oh yeah, that was a penalty, 595 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: beeps him down, says, yeah, that was a fifteen yard 596 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: face mask. You guys missed it. Okay, let's give him 597 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: the fifteen yard face mask. So no review, no challenge. 598 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: The sky judge has ten seconds to come up with that. 599 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, gut reaction. I think he still needs a 600 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: chance to look at a replay and determine whether he's right, 601 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: because sometimes things look a certain way to the naked eye. 602 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: What if he says, up, agree, just foul, and then 603 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: he looks at it like Ooh, as I look at this, 604 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't quite look as bad as I thought. You 605 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: have to have an escape for him if he actually 606 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: did make a bad call, if he stopped the game 607 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: incorrectly and made a bad call, and look, I hate 608 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: the sky judge for this. I don't want the game 609 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: stopped every other play right because he's gonna feel like 610 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I gotta correct this. I gotta correct that. That's why 611 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I didn't mind the challenge so much, because at least 612 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: it puts the onus on the coaches. They're gonna be 613 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: very conservative with it in all likelihood, and it's not 614 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna stop the game is often now. As it turned out, 615 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: the rule didn't work because with passive afference, because they 616 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: weren't overturning anything. No calls were just not getting overturned 617 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: as we saw. I don't know what the solution is. 618 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm not here to say I have a solution right now. 619 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: I do think a sky judge is a solution, but 620 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you have to limit the amount of times he can 621 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: stop the game, and you have to give him a 622 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: chance to at least look it over, not for a 623 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: long time. Sometimes in the NBA, they're looking at the 624 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: stuff forever if a guy's toe is on the line 625 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: or not in the third quarter and like, oh, by 626 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: the way, that happened five minutes ago, so it's a 627 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: three and not a two. Wait a minute, or two 628 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: and not a three, whatever the case is, like or 629 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: the Rockets protest when what was it, Oh, the hardened 630 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: gold dunk call? Yeah, didn't a dunk go through and 631 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: then come back out and went down and came back 632 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: out something that something? Yeah, And they were like, you know, 633 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: we lost a game because of that. Wait a minute. 634 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, I don't like changing history, okay, and 635 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: I've been vocal about that in the NBA games, But 636 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL, Johnny, I know, I say no to 637 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: that proposal. I need more tweaking to it than that. Sorry, 638 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: don't have all the questions right now. Okay, So here's 639 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: a wild one. Okay, we are taking away the two 640 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: minute warning, but in the final two minutes, the NFL 641 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: will go to college clock rules in that the clock 642 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: will stop for five seconds like it did in the 643 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: XFL for a first down, Well, I like that a lot. 644 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: And I've actually talked to Bill O'Brien about would you 645 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: go for in the final two minutes of a game 646 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: the clock stopping on first down until the changer set right? Yeah, 647 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: he said yes, he would go for that, and I 648 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: think a lot of coaches would because here's the thing. 649 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: If you're trying to kill clock, well you just wait, 650 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, and snamp it. You'll wait till the clock 651 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: fires up, and you know it's not going to hurt 652 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: you from killing the clock. If you're behind and you're 653 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: trying to catch up, it will help you for sure. 654 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Getting rid of the two 655 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: minute warning. The networks will never go for that because 656 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: you need that commercial So you can leave the two 657 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: minute warning in see I always take it back to business, Johnny. 658 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: You leave the two minute warning and you do your 659 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: clock idea anyway, and I'm down with it. I know 660 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: it makes the game a little bit longer, but it 661 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: makes it more exciting. And by the way, are we 662 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: going to talk about the fourth and fifteen or no? Oh, 663 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: it's it's coming up next. You're good, But I have 664 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: a quick one before that. Okay, third quarterback on the 665 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: team is active at all times, suits up, but cannot 666 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: play in the game in any way, form or fashion 667 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: unless there are documented injuries to the first two quarterbacks. 668 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: Doesn't count against your forty six man or whatever it's 669 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: going to be. I know we're eventually gonna go to 670 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: where we have the eighth lineman active. I say we 671 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: do it for quarterbacks. Third quarterback active at all times, 672 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: but only can get on the field and play if 673 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: there are documented injuries to the first two quarterbacks. All right, 674 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: so my third quarterbacks in the game. My first quarterback 675 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: could possibly play if he has a walker. So if 676 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: the third quarterback gets hurt, can the first one come back? 677 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Or is it like baseball where the pitchers are done 678 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: for the tame once you get to the third third, 679 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: once you get to the third quarterback, it's the third quarterback. 680 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Once you put that third quarterback in the game, that 681 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: third quarterbacks playing the rest of the game. Yeah, I'll 682 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: say fine, Look, I think everybody should be active, you 683 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: know how I feel. Yeah, if you have a fifty 684 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: three man roster, let everybody be active. If you have 685 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: a fifty five man roster, everybody's active. What's the problem here, Oh, 686 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: some teams have injuries. Okay, you have injuries. Work it out, 687 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: you know. I would I would prefer a little bit 688 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: more ability with the practice squad. We can bring somebody up, 689 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: a player two for a week, like you know, it's 690 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: an NBA ten day kind of thing. You bring them 691 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: up for a week. Do they still have those in 692 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: the NBA? But you bring them up and then you 693 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: can send them back down. I would prefer a more 694 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: protected practice squad. Not totally protected, but a little bit 695 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: more protection on the practice squad and the ability to 696 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: bring guys up on game day if you need them. 697 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like the way 698 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: you're thinking on that. Okay, last one, you just hit 699 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: it on sidekick alternative fourth and fifteen from your own 700 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. You can use it once, only 701 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: once in the fourth quarter. Surprise on side or planned 702 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: late game on side still exists, but you get one 703 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: opportunity fourth and fifteen from your own twenty five yard line. 704 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: What's your gut reaction. I don't like this. I'm gonna 705 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: lose this battle. I don't like it at all. You 706 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: know they tried it in the Pro Bowl. I think 707 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: it's unfair. It's an unfair advantage for a trailing offense 708 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: and a gas to defense. How many times have you 709 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 1: seen a team up two three touchdowns the other team 710 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: is roaring back in so called garbage time, or maybe 711 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: it's not quite garbage time, but it's starting to reek 712 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, it's getting a little stale. 713 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: But they score touchdown, maybe they get an onside, they 714 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: score another time. You know, all of a sudden, the 715 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: defense is gassed, right, your defense that's worked so hard 716 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: to protect the lead, and now you're gonna give the 717 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: opposing offense a free down on their twenty five after 718 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: they just scored a touchdown to keep things going. I 719 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: got pat my Homes, I got Lamar Jackson. I got 720 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: to Sean Watson if I'm going against him. These guys 721 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: can convert this. It's not a high percentage play. I 722 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: get it. It's a lot higher percentage than an onside kick, 723 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: and I know an onside kick is it's gotten crazy. 724 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Maybe they do it, need to come up with something else, 725 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: but it's it's too much to give them the ball 726 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: for another player. I think I'm shooting it down. Johnny 727 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm going get off my lawn on the fourth and fifteen. 728 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I could see if you were shooting that 729 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: down if your quarterback was Mitch Trubisky. But your quarterback 730 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: is DeShawn Watson. You have an up, you have an opportunity. 731 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: It's exciting. So it's gonna happen. So it's exciting. It's exciting, 732 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: and I know the league wants it. I know a 733 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: lot of people want this. Really yeah, I would be fine. 734 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that. I cannot wait for that. 735 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go around the league. We're gonna 736 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: go bad happens. We're gonna go round the league. Next, 737 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: there is an adaptation to the Rooney rule that Mark 738 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: and I will discuss next. Right here in Texas, All 739 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: Access can't get enough Texans Radio. We've got shows, We've 740 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: got podcasts, we've got interviews. It's all on Houston Texans 741 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Witney Merciless, starting outside linebacker for you 742 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. For the latest on your favorite team in mind, 743 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: go to Houston Texans dot com. Yes, sir, listen to 744 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: the man. Whitney Merciless. Pretty excited about seeing him come 745 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty after signing late in the twenty 746 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: nineteen season and extension to stay with the Texans, I 747 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: believe for the next four years. So looking forward to 748 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: having went back in twenty twenty. John Harris here, Mark 749 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: van Emir there, Mark, don't I don't know about you 750 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: grown up watching NFL today, but the NFL today was 751 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: such a great great shows, the first of its kind, 752 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy the Greek Brand, Musburger earth Cross and Phillis George 753 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: who was part of that crew. And it was interesting 754 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: because growing up I didn't even think anything of it 755 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: at the time. I mean, I was a kid. I 756 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: was just watching this show. I thought she was really good. 757 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: I didn't understand the impact at the time that she 758 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: had being a woman in a man's business. But unfortunately, 759 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: Phillis George passed away. Yester, yeah, Sunday at the age 760 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: of seventy. I don't know how you whether you watch 761 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: NFL today growing up, whether that was part of the viewing, 762 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: but your thoughts about Philis George as the pioneer that 763 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: she was, being one of the first female media types 764 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: in a male dominated business, if you will, Well, it's 765 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: an unfair world for women sports broadcasting. It really is, 766 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: because you have to be extra perfect. For lack of 767 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: a better way of putting it, I mean, seriously, if 768 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: you make a mistake unfortunately and it's not fair, I'm 769 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is I'm not saying it's fair, 770 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: but there's extra scrutiny. It's like, oh, she didn't get 771 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: that right because like what, like how many guys talk 772 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: about this game on a daily basis who never played it? 773 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: Who never played the game, so many, so many experts 774 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: have never played football at any level, might have scraped 775 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: it a little bit in school or whatever, And how 776 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: how does that make you more qualified than Ellis George 777 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: or anybody else who has a real interest follows it, 778 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: studies it and gets into it and loves it. Right, 779 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: So she was a pioneer. Gil Gardner is another one 780 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: here in Houston, Anita Martini, You know, you have so 781 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: many people who who belong in a group of pioneers 782 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: in women's sports broadcasting, and you know, I just think 783 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: it's important that you know it continues. And yes, so 784 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: so many different ways of getting into this business sideline 785 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: reporter or writer or whatever. And you know, I hate 786 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: to say it that way. You know, like we have 787 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: female play by play, we have I don't think we 788 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: have female color yet quite but you know, color commentary 789 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: tends to be guys who played or coached or whatever. 790 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: And I think that's fine. I mean that that does 791 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: make sense to me, that part of it. But she 792 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: was an original and she was great. That was a 793 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: great show, John. I mean that was Brent. You are 794 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: looking live. That was Jimmy the Greek IRV Cross highly 795 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: underrated as well. It's really watchable show. I mean Jimmy 796 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: the Greek talking about point spreads. Think about that Mark 797 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about the nineteen seventies and he's talking about 798 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: point spreads and now it's back, and now you can 799 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: do it again, and now you can now you can 800 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: do it again because you can actually gamble. I just 801 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: was right flem through Twitter during a break and I 802 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: saw Sean Pendergast tweeted up a picture I think it 803 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: was at the Golden Nugget, but the the plexiglass that's 804 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: gone up at blackjack tables in various places, and yeah, 805 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: and I just started thinking about, man that this period 806 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: of time with no live sports, how has Sean made it. 807 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: That's kind of first thing that came to mind, and 808 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: the second one was, Okay, well good, they've they've found 809 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: no way to give people opportunity to do what. I mean, 810 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: just look at the blackjack table. I was like, I'll go, 811 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: I'll do it. I don't care. I guess it'd be 812 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: a plexiglass. I'll do it. Heck, y'all do it. Plenty 813 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: of people are gonna do it. It's not gonna be 814 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: as a man, no doubt, but plenty of people will 815 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: do it. No plexics, plenty of people would do it right. 816 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: The whole thing is just not overtaxing the system, not 817 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: overwhelming the medical system. It is not possible to think 818 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: that no one's going to get this, that there won't 819 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: be some positives throughout all this reopening stuff. But I 820 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: think it's that's nice, that's good. I mean, we need 821 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: as many things to open up as possible safely to 822 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: get us going again, especially those that tap into the 823 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: dark arts in some sense for some people that need it. 824 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: We talked earlier about the virtual owners meetings that will 825 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: take place starting tomorrow, Tomorrow's nineteenth. This from Tom Pella Sorrow. 826 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: He reported Monday that the league will require clubs to 827 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: interview at least two external minority candidates for head coaching 828 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: openings and at least one minority candidate for any coordinator job, 829 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: per sources informed of the decision. These being adaptations to 830 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: the Rooney Rule, which required minority candidates to be interviewed 831 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: for head coaching openings GM openings and also coordinator openings, 832 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: and now they are making adjustments to that. There was 833 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: there was something floating around that the League. I think 834 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: Jim Trotter had said that on Friday at the League 835 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: was presenting two resolutions in these meetings that would include 836 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: draft picks being added. And I saw that market I went, oh, man, 837 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about that aspect. I like more of 838 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: what Tom Pellasaro is saying, and that is, hey, let's 839 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: make sure that teams are interviewing more candidates. But the 840 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: draft picks, I went, oh, man, I don't know that. 841 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I like that aspect of things. 842 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,479 Speaker 1: And a lot of people, you know, people of color, 843 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: have said no, and you know, so that they know 844 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people weighing in on that 845 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: that proposal or that would be proposal. Look, I love 846 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: that you open up your universe, right, you expand the 847 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: amount of people you're talking to. And I can't speak 848 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: for minorities, obviously, but I would think, all right, great, 849 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: at least, you know, even if they have their eyes 850 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: on somebody else who's not a minority. But I get 851 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: an interview, I get my name out there. Maybe I've 852 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: changed somebody's thinking about me my qualifications, right, And at 853 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: least I'm getting you know, I'm getting something here. I'm 854 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: making some progress. I'm getting an interview. Maybe the next 855 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: time the interview is it results in a job. So 856 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: the more you can do, the better. That's how I 857 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: feel about it. Yeah, no question. Eric Enemy is a 858 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: guy that a lot of people talked about from a 859 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: head coaching perspective that is going to have opportunities. He's 860 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: going to get a job. John, he is definitely gonna 861 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: get a job. I'll give you another one time. I'll 862 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: give you another one. Who is just a matter of 863 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: time for getting a job. And look, I hope he's 864 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator here for a very long time. Gosh, 865 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: don't say it, but get mad, all right, that's fine. 866 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: He can get mad at me. He's always mad at me. 867 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: NFL organization looking for a leader of men Anthony Weaver 868 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: is a guy that can lead men that I know 869 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: that I know. Now whether he calls a great defensive 870 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: game or not, we're about to find out. But as 871 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: a leader of men and a guy that I would 872 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: want leading the men under my stead, Anthony Weaver would 873 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: definitely be one of those guys. All Right, Mark, thank 874 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: you so much again for being part of the show. 875 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: We'll get back started. I just started. We just got started. 876 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: But it's the week, it's the week getting started. We'll 877 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. We got plenty tomorrow for you on Tuesday, Mark, 878 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: and I will definitely be here. Appreciate you guys for listening. 879 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so very much. Thank you all for staying 880 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: safe and continuing to be safe. We will see it 881 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow and as always, go Texas. This is Texans Radio 882 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six tens.