1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. Let's go. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Let's Giants bubbling, give me some job. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Part of the Giants podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Let's roll. Welcome to another edition of the Giants Suttle Podcast, 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: presented by Citizens, the Official Bank of the Giants. I 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: am John Schmelk. We're joined by one of the men 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: that run and report for Giants Insider, Chris Busy. Not 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh Chris, how are you man? 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Good John? How you doing? 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us in the Hackensack and Britney Health podcast. 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: You'll keep getting better. Uh, Chris. We're kind of at 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: the end of OTAs here, just a level set for everybody. 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: We're recording this on Thursday afternoon, so there's one more 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: OTA on Friday that's not open to the media. This 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: is gonna Aaron Monday. So I figured this would be 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: a good time to kind of wrap up OTAs, and 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: I think I'll start here. I think what people kind 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: of missed about Mini Camp over the years. It's no 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: different than OTA, except that as mandatory. So it's not 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: like the pads go on next week and we're gonna 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: see some like different type of football. So there's basically 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: like two and a half practices left of like passing camp. 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: So what has jumped out to you so far from 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: what you've seen? I think you guys have been here 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: three times, correct, Yeah, so far during spring practices. 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I get to be honest with you, Joinning. What was 27 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: really jumping out at me so far is the intensity 28 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: of OTAs. We saw the fight last week, John, that 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: was a rarity for the OHTA. You never really see 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: guys go at it at OTAs. I love it. But 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, you see slate, you see some guys stay 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: talking about about Hey, yes, you know, and David was 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about the intensity level for OTAs like everybody's buying 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: in this organization. 35 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Attendance has been good, Attendance. 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Has been great. It's a different feel around here, John, 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: this spring from the last few years. But that's the 38 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: one thing that really seems to jump out of me. 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Why do you think the energy is different? 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, there's a new quarterback there. Look, 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: there's a future Hall of Fame quarterback in the building. Okay, 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: the franchise goes out dress Jackson thought, Okay, a new quarterback, 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: a so called franchise quarterback, which obviously they feel he is. 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: It always provides a bull through the building. Okay, I 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: think you have Russell Wilson. It's just a change. I 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: think maybe this organization needed a little bit of a change. 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: They got it, okay, And I think it's just rejuven 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: I think it's given everybody a little extra step. That's 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that jumps out of me, the intensity 50 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: level for OTAs. 51 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: You mentioned a new quarterback, and to a man, everyone 52 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: we've talked to when they've had press conferences and such 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: over the past three weeks have raved about Russell Wilson's 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: energy and his leadership. 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Why do you think that has really struck guys in 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: such a dramatic way? 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know what, this is a guy that's 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: probably going the whole fame John, and he comes in, 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: he talks the third guys third in a depth shot. 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: And you heard Tyrone Tracy talk about it today. 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: He even talked to Pearson, who's running the show today, and 63 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: no one talks to Pearson. 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Right, I don't know who he is. I'm yeah, so yeah, 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: but you know what, this is a. 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Guy that comes in. 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: He's such an accomplished player, super Bowl champion, right, and 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: he's coming in and he's talking everybody. He's making sure 69 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page. And that includes guys that 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: a third in a depth shot. But he's making sure 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the good You know when you see that from this 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: guy like Russell Wilson, where a lot of these young 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: guys grew up watching, right John, and then he's in 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: there talking to you, Hey, listen, we gotta do this 75 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: this week. We'll make sure are you good with this? 76 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: All that stuff. He takes the team, the offense out 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: last week to dinner. Tyroln Tracy talked about that with 78 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: us today, just like that's just like when you see that, 79 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: it's like, man, I gotta go to the extra step 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: because this future Hall of Famer is the first one 81 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: in the building. He's the last one in the building. 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: He's making sure everybody's on the same page. And when 83 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you see that, John, you better make sure you're doing 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: your work. 85 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: The other part of the communication part that both Tyron 86 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: Tracy and Darius Lane talked about today Thursday when we 87 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: did the media availabilities, and I think Wanda Robinson said 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: this too, and we talked to him last week. He 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: tells you exactly what he wants, how he wants it, 90 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: and he does it clearly, so you understand, and I 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: think for receivers and running backs to a lesser extent, 92 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: I guess to understand how the quarterback wants you to 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: run the route, what kind of angle he wants you 94 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: to create, what kind of leverage he wants you to 95 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: do on a certain play. Dario, was he the trace 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: your Slaton pointed out that he's able to anticipate, well, 97 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: what the defense is going to show us before the play, 98 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: is able to say, all right, well on this particular play, 99 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: with this look, I want you to do this. That 100 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: seems to have really struck a chord with a lot 101 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: of the skill position guys on offense. 102 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely, He's even had a little bit of an 103 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: influence on Dable. Look. Dave's talked to thing. We're asking 104 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: him about sevens a little bit more seven drills and 105 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: he's O tas and Table says, yeah, well that basically 106 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: came from Russell. He was talking about, you know, getting 107 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: more seven drills in so seven on seven know what 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, I'm sorry about that seven on sevens 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: and Russell was talking about that with this is he 110 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: wanted more seven on seven drills, And Devil said Yeah, okay, 111 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, so that that's the kind of influence this 112 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: guy has and the leadership. You know what, John, everybody 113 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: we have spoke two this spring, they all mentioned the 114 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: same thing with Russell Wilson. Guess that is what an 115 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: incredible leader he is, you know. And hey, listen, like 116 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I just said, this is a guy that's going to 117 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Canton one day and to have him in this building 118 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: and show his leadership, especially because this is a young team, right, 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: this is and they see that. I think it's been 120 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: a great thing so far. 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it has been too. Of course, none 122 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: of this is gonna matter, and the busiest to play 123 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: well when he gets on the field, right, So it's 124 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: really easy to be hippy and enthusiastic now because this 125 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: is all you can do. They haven't had a chance 126 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: to go out in the field improve it yet. But 127 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: we were talking about this between the press conferences today 128 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: and I have brought this up on Big Bull Kickoff 129 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: many times. Even when you go back to his bad 130 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: years or his quote unquote bad years in Denver, right 131 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: when Sean Payton gets there, he clearly he doesn't didn't 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: want him there anymore, and he couldn't get him out 133 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: the door fast enough, He's still like twenty four touchdowns 134 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: and eight interceptions. Yeah, so this is like a three 135 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: to one touchdown the interception ratio with more than twenty touchdowns. 136 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: The Giants haven't had that since Eli Manning was here exactly. 137 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: And look, Johnny, he played well for the Steels last year. 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: I know it didn't end well for him. 139 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: And it wasn't perfect, but they got him. 140 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: They got him. 141 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: And if you look at and if you look and 142 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: I always say this, sorry for interrupting, if you look 143 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: at the Steelers and their offensive production from the games 144 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: that Justin Field's play and you compare them to the 145 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: games that Russell Wilson's played, they're far superior in the 146 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: games that Russell Wilson played, just in terms of points 147 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: per game. 148 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: And for everybody should be excited about who really came 149 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: to life with Russell to go over last year George Pickens. Correct, 150 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Russell gets the ball down the field. 151 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: That's the other thing Slatin talked about today. 152 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Russell gets the ball and that obviously he's going to 153 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: be very big for guys like Darius Slayton, Elik Neighbors, 154 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: and even guys like Wandel Robinson. 155 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: Guys with the many legs that move really fast. According 156 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: to Darius Slayton, that wasn't me, Wandell, your teammates said that, 157 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: and many legs that move really fast. 158 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: And I know what's impressing me too, John, Yeah, No, 159 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: I like that. 160 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: Guys like that. You know what's impressing me to ja high. 161 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I was just gonna get into jam. 162 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: So I like the way Russell has taken jailing under 163 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: his wing. Okay, he sees a lot of potential with 164 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: this young man. This is year three for jailing now, 165 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: and you see the connection going on on the field, 166 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: and he's OTAs one of his little crosses, you know, 167 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: and Russell's talked about him, Hey, this kid's got a 168 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: ton of potential. We gotta get this kid going, you know. 169 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: So, and he's had a bunch of deep balls too. 170 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: When you guys aren't here watching that scene, he's hit 171 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: him like he hit a deep post just in the 172 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: practice on Tuesday, like a fifty yard bombed out of 173 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: the right right. 174 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: So you know he he loves what Jalen brings it 175 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a table Russell, you know, and I love that too, 176 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: because and then you saw Dable talking today about Hey, 177 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Jalalen's like basically at the hip of Russell Wilson. He's 178 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: taking all his information in from him. So, look, this 179 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: is a big year. Like I just sit for jail 180 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: in the year three. I know a lot of people 181 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: give it up on John be and you have it. 182 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I think I speak for you here. This kid, you know, 183 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: this is like huge for him. In my opinion, I 184 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: think this kid could be a big factor in this 185 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: offensive year with Russell. 186 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: And look, we don't have the exact number on it, 187 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: but Slayton was talking about Hyatt today too and said, 188 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: look he came back. Look like he added fifteen zero 189 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: pounds of muscle. I think they had fifteen pounds of 190 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: muscle over three months. I think is borderline impossible, but 191 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: I'll take Darius's word for it. But you could definitely 192 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: see the upper bodies much thicker with Hyatt just with 193 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: him walking around. And I'll be interested to see if 194 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: the style that Russell Wilson plays at quarterback, and you 195 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: talked about it with his enthusiasm, not just willingness, but 196 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: his enthusiasm for throwing the ball down the field, that 197 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: matches with the way Jalen Hyatt was used at Tennessee 198 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: when he was such an explosive player. So I hope 199 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: that DA can mix. You could figure out a way 200 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: to balance the snaps between Slaton, Robinson, Hyatts. All three 201 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: guys can you know, get a feel for it and 202 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: kind of have their role in the offense on different series. 203 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: So I do think there's a window here if he 204 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: can carry over what's going on in spring. Look, I 205 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: think the real test here, Bus and you talked about 206 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: it in terms of there not being any contact yet 207 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: a pad. How does he do once corners start getting 208 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: physical with him? Right, because that was always something coming 209 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: out of Tennessee one hundred and seventy five pounds, He 210 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: was never pressed at Tennessee. How does he handle this? 211 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: Does this success continue when they're able to put the 212 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: pads on, run press coverage and stuff like that in 213 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: camp and then get in the preseason game when you 214 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: obviously you're going to be very fit, guys are gonna 215 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: get very physical with you. How does it translate that? Yeah? 216 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: Well, see, I think he obviously Jalen realizes that too, 217 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: because he bulked up some moll yep, so he realizes, Hey, 218 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: I gotta get off this line of. 219 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Scrimmage, and it doesn't all he lost any speed. By 220 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: the way, with the no. 221 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: No, he doesn't look, which can't happen. That does happen 222 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to the players sometimes it does, but watching him and 223 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: he's Ota, it doesn't seem like it's happened to Jalen. 224 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: So look, he gets it. Okay, he understands what he 225 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: has to work out in his game. He bulked up 226 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. He understands he has to get off 227 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage better. Howdle up get in here? 228 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the 229 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: middle with at the score? 230 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: Great? How do we make that happen? I don't know? 231 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: But citizens does? It makes sense of your money with 232 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: citizens Official Bank of Eli. 233 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm really looking for He's one of the 234 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: guys I'm going into training camp next month on it. 235 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: It has to be to keep an eye on. I 236 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: have a few guys always. Okay, I'm gonna focus on 237 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: this guy. I'm gonna focus on it. He's obviously one 238 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna focus on. 239 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: And I wonder and by the way, this does not 240 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: mean that you wish he wasn't on the field and 241 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: doing everything. I wonder if this, the fact that Neighbors 242 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: hasn't done anything yet and he's on the side with 243 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: the trainers, if that's been a bit of a blessing 244 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: in disguise, because you know, if Neighbors is healthy, you 245 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: know whose pocket Russell Wilson would be in all the time. Neighbors. 246 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: Obviously he's gonna be his number one wide receiver. Yes, 247 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: and I'll give Neighbors credit. And I've said this in 248 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: my written reports. Even though Neighbors isn't practicing with the team. 249 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: When he's done doing his rehab stuff, he stands behind 250 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage with the quarterbacks, puts his helmet on, 251 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: puts his helmet in the huddle to get the play called. 252 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: Then he retreats, talks to the coaches, talks to the quarterbacks. 253 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: He also seems very very engaged and into this. And look, 254 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna name names, but we've all seen other 255 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: wide receivers when they're hurt and they're or they're not 256 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: doing anything and they're in Springer even summer practices. Yes, 257 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: they're not on the field doing that stuff. They're not. 258 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: So I think it's really good to see a sign 259 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: of maturity from neighbors in the second year being that 260 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: engaged even though he's not physically doing these things in practices. 261 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: But I do wonder if the fact, to go back 262 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: to my original point, that him not being out there 263 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: has given the window for Jayalen Hyatt to thrive because 264 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: he's been able to really take all the snaps at 265 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson with the ones yeah, really make that type 266 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: of connection. 267 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: John, There's no question about him. He's taking advantage of 268 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: the reps he's getting because of Milik is out. And 269 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: you know what, John, I just backtracking back to Milik 270 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: for a second. What you just said. I put that 271 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: on social media. I remember the first Otia I was 272 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: at and I saw Malik do that. I said, oh, man, 273 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: look at Malika. But he came in, like you said, 274 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: he's hamming the kid. He's hamming. I thought that was great. Man. 275 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, year two for this guy and here he is. 276 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's not practicing, but there he is engaged 277 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: right there putting his head listening to the play from Russell, 278 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that is a big sign of maturity. Man. 279 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, Milik names wants to win, John. 280 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: He could ease be standing with the other wide receivers sideline, 281 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: and that's what ninety percent of the guys that are 282 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: hurt to. 283 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Look John, Like you just said, we're not gonna get 284 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: into it, but we've seen some guys over the years 285 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: maybe won't as engagement, it would not practice. 286 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: Didn't even show up in the spring for practicing. Right, 287 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get into that. 288 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: But he's a positive. This kid is a star. We 289 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: know that, and here he is making sure he's involved. Okay, 290 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: and that's great for the Giants in their fans, man, 291 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: because I love to see that. John love to see it, 292 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: and he's been doing it all springing and yeah, Jalen's 293 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: taking advantage of the reps, right, He's getting a lot 294 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: of reps because of the leak, and that's great for him. 295 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: All Right. 296 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: A couple of things on obviously, I think that's where 297 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: you have more of the kind of questions that you 298 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: ever figure out, how do you think they're gonna work 299 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: this running back room? Is it all three guys gonna 300 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: get regular playing time? Is it gonna take a little 301 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: while for Cam to kind of get in the mix. 302 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a lot of tracing Singletary at first. 303 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: Cam hasn't been out there much. So your thoughts on 304 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: how they're gonna kind of figure out how to use 305 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: these guys in that running back. 306 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think it's gonna be Tyrone Devin Singletary 307 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, in camp, and and then Cam's gonna be 308 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: worked in slowly, you know, and then they'll start working 309 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: in I believe as we process bazonging those third down 310 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: type situations and then other situations, you know, short yardage, 311 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: goal line, low red all that type of stuff. Sure, 312 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think they'll move him along slowly. I do. 313 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I think time on, Tracy and Singletary will be the guys, 314 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: and they move came along because obviously you have to 315 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: get him on the field because he is a short 316 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: yardage guy. He's a guy has very you know what, John, 317 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: he has very good hands for running back. Oh yeah, 318 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: he runs routs. You watch him in college and he's 319 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: running routes. 320 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: That's the funny thing about him and Tracy. They're both 321 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: so different stylistically, Yes, but both guys can't actually do everything. 322 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: They can run, they can catch, they can block absolutely. 323 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: Man, you know the way Kim runs routes and how 324 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: about some of it over the show, all the catches 325 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: he was making in college. Kids got very good hands, man, 326 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: very good hands. So they got two backs that they 327 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: could you know, they could scheme up receival a route 328 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: wise out of the backfield, which is always use which 329 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: Davill likes to do. So yeah, it'll come along slowly 330 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: for camp, but it'll be time on. It'll be Devin 331 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Singletary in the beginning, and then they'll get Cam going. 332 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: So the same question for the tight ends, Like, I 333 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: don't know if this is gonna be a group where 334 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna like draft one of these guys on your 335 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: fantasy football team because I feel like Theo's gonna get 336 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: the most snaps. Yeah, but I do feel like they're 337 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: gonna try to mix in all of these guys depending 338 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: on the situation of the game. 339 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I agree. Look, THEO was really starting 340 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: to come on before the injury last year, so he's 341 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. We know that, right, But the 342 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Giants also gonna be in twelve and thirteen personnel. You're 343 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna see Bellinger. Look, Babe was a big fan of 344 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Chris Manno man, he loves Chris big in line blocker. 345 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: He loves what he brings him the table. So you're 346 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna see those type you know, twelve thirteen type packages 347 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: and they'll be on the field. But no, Theo's gonna 348 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: be the number one guy. I don't think there's any 349 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: question about that. But it's a it's a pretty interesting 350 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: group because Daniel could block Bellinger, Manhurst is a good 351 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: in line blocker. Theo could run those seams. So they 352 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: will make it work. You know it's gonna be. And 353 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'm pretty high on the rookie 354 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: John fin don't. 355 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him in Fidoni com the 356 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: one that has to pronounce it with the Italian accent. 357 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: Come and and I think by the way that I 358 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: think they're pretty excited about him too, given that he 359 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: played for a pro system in college and all that stuff. 360 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I think they pretty John. I've spoken to a few 361 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: people in the last month and they feel it kind 362 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: of got of a steal here in the seventh round 363 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: with John Thomas FANDONI. You know, over here in Jersey, 364 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: everybody else talking about Hey John listen man. You know, I, 365 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: like I said, they feel they got to steal in 366 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick with this kid. Look, this is 367 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: this young man was one of the most highly recruited 368 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: guys coming out of high school. 369 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: He was the second second tight end in that recruiting class. 370 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: And then we know what happened to Nebraska. He has 371 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: some injuries, okay, but we get him out. He having 372 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the seventh round. I love the way he's a big boy, man. 373 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: I tell you I saw him U close to the 374 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: first He's a big He's had long arms, you got 375 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: more drawn. 376 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: He could run, very athletic. I'm looking He's one of 377 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: the guys I'm looking forward to. 378 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: Scene is Sommato, I agree, I'm with your Finally, the 379 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: offensive line on the offensive side of the ball, how 380 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: did you see the shaken out? Like how I think 381 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: we all expect that the same five that started last 382 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: year will start the season. I think that's our expectation. Yes, 383 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: could you put like a percentage chance if everyone's healthy, 384 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: that that's not the case, Like, is there a chance 385 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: that a Kubas or an Evan Neil could break into 386 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: the starting lineup or do you think something is going 387 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: to have to happen for that to be the case. 388 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: I would say Neil's gonna compete, but I would think 389 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: something probably going to have to happen. I think it's 390 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Van Roden's job to lose. Neil will be competing, and 391 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: so I expect the same five. Okay, John, I do, 392 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Look, Neil's moving over to God. He 393 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: played God in college, nothing new to him. But you 394 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: know he's going to compete over there, and we'll see 395 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: what he brings in the table. You know. Look, his 396 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: forte is what run blocking right. 397 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: And I think he's a chance to be a good guard. 398 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: I really don't, John, Look I've been reporting that for 399 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: last month. I agree with you one hundred percent. Brother. 400 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: I think he's got a very good chance to. 401 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: Be a He's a little tall, but he's so big 402 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 2: and long and powerful. 403 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I think absolutely. I think he'll 404 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: be fine, and we'll see how he competes this summer. 405 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: But I expect the starting five that we sold last 406 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: year to be out there against Washington in the first 407 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: game of a season. 408 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 409 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're 410 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk 411 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. 412 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to learn about Annliar routine. 413 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your 414 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: money with Citizens Giants on the podcast brought to you 415 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants from Game Day celebrations. 416 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: Your everyday financial needs big move fans and get the 417 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: most out of everyone with Citizens. Learnmore at Citizens bank 418 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: dot com slash Giants. All right, let's go to defense 419 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: real quick. Boy, Let's go secondary first, because we talked 420 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: to Paulson Adbo today. Yes, and he's just such a 421 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: solid guy, just physically and mentally. I think, like cornerback 422 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: play can be very up and down, but I don't 423 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: think he's going to be up and down because of 424 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: what's going on up here. You know, sometimes you might 425 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: not just not play a good game. And look, I 426 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: think the stability that him and Holland are going to 427 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: bring to that group last year that was so young 428 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: and had some bad moments of the course of the year, 429 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: giving up some big plays. I think that was their 430 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: number one thing they wanted to fix this offseason. And 431 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: that's not a surprise. That's where most of their money 432 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: was spent. 433 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, let's not forget what mister Maras said right 434 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. He you know, at 435 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: the end of the day when he said, look, I'm 436 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: sick and tired of seeing offenses go up and down 437 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: the field on our defense, you know. And they had 438 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: addressed the secondary, you know, and Joe did, Joe Shane did. 439 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: He went out. They spend the money. I love a debo, 440 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: I love them New Orleans. Okay, And look, but one 441 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: of the keys to his secondary is going to be 442 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: a watch on Tate Banks in year three. Okay, for sure, 443 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: to rebound, get back to that second half Tate Banks 444 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: his rookie year. I know a lot of people kill 445 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: me on social media. I haven't given up on the kid. 446 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: I got to be honest. 447 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: I haven't give up on anyone that's given up, but 448 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: him is silly. I think he's dedicated now. Now. Not 449 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: giving up doesn't mean that we think he's gonna be 450 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: like a pro bowler this year. That's not what we're saying. 451 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: But you have to give the chance, get a chance 452 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: in the years. Come on. 453 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's had a great, for my understand off season 454 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: for himself getting into shape up here. 455 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Big thing that's that's it. That's it. 456 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So Tay, Look, Tay needs to figure it out 457 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot up here. I think he will. He's a 458 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: young man. Sometimes in this league, it takes a couple 459 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: of years to say, hey, wait a minute, the light 460 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: goes on, Hey I got it shut. You know, I 461 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: think he will this year. I think he's gonna be 462 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: a much better Tay Banks John in year three and 463 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: he look, they need him to be a much better 464 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Tea Banks. 465 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: You need to do. 466 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: This is a number one Jeff pick Man, you know. 467 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you know, John, You've been around a 468 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: long time. It takes guys in this league sometimes a 469 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: few years to figure it out. 470 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: I remember he had two defensive two different defensive coordinators too, 471 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: from year one of the year. 472 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Look, there was some other issues with Tay last year. 473 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: We know, I'm not gonna get into it again, but 474 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: I think you're not gonna see that anymore as far 475 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: as maybe some of that, you know, the men stuff, 476 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: mental stuff. Okay, I'm not getting into the hall. You know, 477 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: everybody knows what happened last year. I think he's gonna 478 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: figure out. I think Tay's gonna rebound well. And I think, 479 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, He's gonna be a nice competent opposite of 480 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: a Deebo on the other side, you know, and I 481 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: looking for that. You know, God, Shane could play a 482 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: lot more that man defense. Bowen could play a lot 483 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: more that man defense with these two guys. 484 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: Excellent transition. How much do you think Shane Bowen is 485 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: going to adjust the way he runs this defense because 486 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: the personnel is different. You mentioned the man's own splits. 487 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: I'll throw in the fact that I think with two safeties. 488 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: You know, Nuban is a second year guy, but he's 489 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: very smart and Jamon Holland, you know, being who he is, 490 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: you know, being able to disguise a lot more doing 491 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: a lot of post more posts that movement and stuff 492 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: like that. How much do you think his playbook get 493 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: gets opened up a little bit because of those editions 494 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: in the on the prepare Yeah. 495 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: No, I think Bone will adjust to his talent, John, 496 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: I really do. He's got you know, Look, he's a 497 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: lot of zone last year with Bowen, right, I think 498 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: he looks at this person, looks at the personnel now 499 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: and says, hey, we could do a lot more different 500 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: things than man covered. You know, a lot of man 501 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: press and all that stuff, because now you have a 502 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: debo who played a lot of man press New Orleans. 503 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: That's that's his thing. He likes to play that man press. 504 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: You you know, even saday the press, I asked him 505 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: about it today. 506 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: How many times he used the word aggressive? 507 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Aggressive? 508 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: And like six times? I tell you what. 509 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 1: I even joked about him after after the press. He's 510 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: a big boy. 511 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: He's built like a safety. 512 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: He's built a safety. 513 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: And if you put him next to Tyler Newman, they 514 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: probably don't look that much different. 515 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: He walked in front of me after the pressent. 516 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: Said Holland for that matter, and I said, well, you 517 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: at this weight New Orleans. 518 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, yeah, sure. I was like, he goes, well, 519 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm a big boy, but yeah, and he is. He's 520 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: a big he's a big solid corners. 521 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually are very built. So you guys, so. 522 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Hey, so this is what you want in this league? 523 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: Two big solid corners. They could play man press. And 524 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what he wants to do, right John. 525 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: He loves underwing. A couple of years ago he played 526 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: a lot more man press. I think take that's what 527 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: he wants to do. A Deebo loves to do that. 528 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: I think Bone will adjust to what he has this year. 529 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: And the front's awesome. I mean, the talent is there, 530 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: and he saw even without the addition of Abdul Carter 531 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: and Chauncey Golston. Oh, I think not enough people are 532 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: talking about it. I think Chauncy Goldten has kind of 533 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: got lost in the Abdul Carter, you know, fractice, which 534 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: I understand. Abdul Quarter's terrific, He's awesome, but I do 535 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: think he's kind of been lost in that a little bit. 536 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you have all the talent in the world. 537 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: If you can just get them some leads, and if 538 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: they can stop to run on first and second down, 539 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: there's no reason that this front should not be a 540 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: very disruptive force. 541 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: Oh, John, absolutely. You know, John, we're reading each other's mind. Say, 542 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I was talking about. 543 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: That makes me very worried about my own mental acute. 544 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: No, that's a very good that's a very positive I'm 545 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: alldern't worry. 546 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: That's very positive. 547 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: So I'm talking to a guy today and so I 548 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: will watch it. Praises and it's exactly what I said. 549 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: I said, you know, it's amazing nobody really talks about 550 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Chauncey Golson. This guy could play football, bros. 551 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: A good player. 552 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you watch him Dallas. Of course you always 553 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: seen to have one of his better games against the Giants. 554 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Sadly that's been the case for a lot of Cowboys players. 555 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: R This is a guy could put a three tech 556 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: to five tech you know, and all that. He's a 557 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: good player. 558 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: Man. 559 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: So that's a great addish by Shane in my opinion. 560 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: But it all comes down to what again, something the 561 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: Giants haven't done the last few years, and that stopped 562 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: the run. Okay, they're gonna have to stop the run 563 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what. With these guys up front, 564 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: they get offenses in third and six is third and five, 565 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: third and sevens. With these guys up front, this could 566 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: be a very effective defense man because obviously guys like 567 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: TIBs Decks, Brian Burns and Abdual Cards of the World 568 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: and even choice he goes he gets his sex. You know, 569 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: they can get to the quarterback a couple more. 570 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: I know some fans are worried about getting all three 571 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: pass rushers on the field. We can't talk about player 572 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: positioning and where they're lined up. That's the rules. But 573 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: I'll just say this with some confidence, I have zero 574 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: concerns about that with the way I've seen them move 575 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: certain players around. With those guys on the field at 576 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: the same. 577 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Time, I have zero concerns. Abdulla will be out there, 578 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: He'll be moved around. Bone will figure it out. These 579 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: three guys are gonna be on the field. Now. I'm 580 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: not saying that dual card is gonna get six he snaps, 581 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, but they'll figure it out. These three guys 582 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: are gonna be on the field, you know. And there's 583 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of one on ones. John, Yeah, 584 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna be someone and it's gonna be fun to 585 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: watch guys in one on ones on his defense because 586 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: you got to count for decks. Brian, you know, TIBs 587 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: and now just kick Carta and guys like TIBs caughta Brian. 588 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna have one on one matchups, man, and they 589 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: could have a very very interesting, very interesting year on 590 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, no question about it. 591 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: We have talked about a lot of the positives, right, oh, oh, 592 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: what are your concerns and the things that you're thinking 593 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: about that you still haven't checked the box on but 594 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: you want to check the box on heading into training camp, well, 595 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: or not heading, but what you want to see in 596 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: training camp in the preseason, ye make you more confident 597 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: about the season. 598 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to see training camp against not not 599 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: against competition. But one of my concerns on the defense 600 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: is still gonna be John is gonna be stopping to 601 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: run as as the process was alone we go into 602 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: the season, because that's been a concern the last few years. Okay, 603 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, that's been a concern. So look 604 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: what I want to see. I want to see t Banks. 605 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: I want to see the progression. That's a concern for 606 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: me still because he's coming off a year. Well, if 607 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: you're not concerned, then you won't watch. And yeah, he 608 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: asked football, giants football. 609 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: And we did. We did X factor players last week 610 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: and he was my number than we were. 611 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Thinking, So me and you were thinking along the same 612 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: lines again he was sadly, So, yeah, Tate Banks is 613 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: a guy you know I'm concerned about. I think, like 614 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: I just said a few minutes ago, I think it 615 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: will be bound. I really don't. I have faith in that. 616 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: But he's obviously right now where we're sitting right now today, 617 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: John and June. He's a concern of mine, you know. 618 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: And look and the offensive line still a little bit 619 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: of a concern for me. What if Andrew goes down 620 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: go forbid again? Yeah, let's last year, Let's face it, 621 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: when Andrew went down, it all came apart, right, That 622 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: can't happen again. I know Shane has addressed that he's 623 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: bringing He's brought in some tackles Hudson for sights, but 624 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: that's still gonna be a certain the mind, a little 625 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: bit offensive line, no question about it. I think all 626 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: five are healthy. It'll be pretty effective like they were 627 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: last season before Andrew got hurt. And uh, but those 628 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: two right there, I'll be watching as we move along 629 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: in the process. 630 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I want to make sure you're doing okay. Tyrone. 631 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: Tracy today mentioned he had Tellamari for the first time 632 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: last week and as one of the goals of the 633 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Manja Cast with. 634 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: With domin Wait, why do I speak to paper about this? 635 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: I know you took that very personally. 636 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh that was incredible. I couldn't believe it. 637 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: I think you have a chance to talk to me 638 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: about it. Yet, if you pulled them aside like you do, 639 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: you have to like take them the car mines in 640 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: the city or something. Well, I might have to take him. 641 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I might have to take him a little lily. I 642 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta confirm a popper about this, and like 643 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: we have a guy. 644 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: On a small Now, I feel like Arthur Avenue is 645 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: is kind of where you have to take him. 646 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think Arthur was bigger than Mulberry Street now, yes, yeah, 647 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's changed over the years. Man. From what 648 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: I used to go do literally is one block. Now 649 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: it's literally one yeah, I mean from when I was 650 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, it's much smaller. But yeah, listen, 651 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, I got to the tyrone, gotta explain something. 652 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: I gotta take him out and then he'll will work 653 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: his way up to the manjic cast for me. 654 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: And Popper and all that stuff. So I do feel 655 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: them on the clams though, and the muscles. I'll eat them, 656 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: but they're if you especially the raw. I'm not a 657 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: big fan of the texture from Brooklyn. You don't like 658 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: cla They're fine. I'll eat them, but I'm not going 659 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: to go out of my way to a lot of people. 660 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: But you'll call him a guy, call him Mai excuse me, 661 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: you're a Brooklyn guy. I know you gotta. 662 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: I know that after a late night little dipping sauce 663 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: and a little. 664 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: Cal and you're getting me hungry right now. 665 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: That'shing wrong with that. Anything that you want to let 666 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: people know about, Chris, No, just. 667 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Follow a look at Giant Insider. You go to and 668 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: please check out on YouTube, Giant Insider, newspaper and podcasts, 669 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: and of course the mangic cast of me and Bob 670 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Poppa the Voice of the Giants. We took a lot 671 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: of food. We got good guests on. So you cook 672 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: for that? No, that's all Papa. Papa's amazing cook. 673 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: Do you cook? 674 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: I cook very little. 675 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,239 Speaker 2: I think maybe cast, maybe maybe you need to pay. 676 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, pap was like, you gotta step up your game. 677 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Christ But you know what, I think we've learned something 678 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: from the Voice of the Giants that people don't know. 679 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: Bob, Like, the dude is a serious cook. Bob, even 680 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: though I'm man, no bab wild, even though I'm looking 681 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: at him. 682 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Like, well man, he's surprised you with that recipe, Like 683 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So Yeah, it's been fun, man, 684 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: it's been fun. I think people have learned another side 685 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: of Bob, you know, this podiccast that they're just so 686 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: used to him and his voice and the Giants and 687 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So it's been a lot of fun. 688 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Then I appreciate it. Thank you, Chris Busy 689 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: Not on the Giants Huddle podcast, brought to you by 690 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Citizens Official Bank of the Giants. We thank you for 691 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: joining us in the Hacken Sackamrity Hell Podcast studio. Keep 692 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: getting better for biz, I'm smell. We'll see you next time.