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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay, Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got some major breaking news right out

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Speaker 2: of the jump here, Clay Travis buck Sexton appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. A lot of drama

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Speaker 2: right now in Delaware surrounding the Hunter Biden plea deal

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Speaker 2: and whether it should or should not be accepted. We're

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Speaker 2: going to give you the absolute latest. This is legitimate

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Speaker 2: breaking news as we are coming on with you will

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Speaker 2: play audio. Honestly, it's one of those stories where you

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Speaker 2: almost have to click refresh on your Twitter feed. Chris

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Speaker 2: Christy is going to join us at one point thirty.

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Speaker 2: He is the only guest, so let me fill you

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Speaker 2: in on what is occurring. We've been discussing on this

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Speaker 2: program for several weeks, ever since the Hunter Biden plea

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Speaker 2: deal was announced that a Trump appointed judge on this

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Speaker 2: day had to sign off on this plea agree and

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of fireworks that have emerged as

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Speaker 2: the court is now in recess and there are major

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Speaker 2: questions about whether this judge is going to accept this

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Speaker 2: plea deal. The two sides are talking right now and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to play for you a couple of clips

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Speaker 2: here that we have put together from CNN and MSNBC

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Speaker 2: of breaking news. But I just want to say this buck.

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Speaker 2: You know that I've been saying that she should reject

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Speaker 2: this deal until that is one hundred percent dead. I

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Speaker 2: am always apprehensive that something behind the scenes is gonna

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Speaker 2: But she is at least not rubber stamping this, and

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Speaker 2: CNN and MSNBC have already come out and reported this

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Speaker 2: deal is dead.

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Speaker 1: We got to be cautious here about what the real

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Speaker 1: takeaway is now. First off, we've been talking about it

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Speaker 1: for weeks. You've been saying she should rejected. I've been

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Speaker 1: thinking the fix is in, and this would have been

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Speaker 1: in so many ways. I think the obvious destruction of

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Speaker 1: the judicial system before our very eyes for politics, Like

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Speaker 1: there's no other way to see this. Hunter Biden is

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Speaker 1: as guilty as guilty gets of multiple felonies, but he's

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Speaker 1: daddy's son, and his daddy's the vice president, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry the president, and so now he's going to

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Speaker 1: get away with it. But we gotta be careful because

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Speaker 1: this could always turn into you know, oh, the deal,

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Speaker 1: the deal, and now we need to come back to

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Speaker 1: court in a week. You know, justice isn't dead. And

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Speaker 1: then to your point, Clay, they do some variation of

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Speaker 1: this right, so we don't know the outcome. They're throwing

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Speaker 1: static up right now about it? You want to play

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Speaker 1: that cut? Let's play it, yeah, CNN cut twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen.

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Speaker 3: She was pressing a prosecution on this investigation and the

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Speaker 3: four corners of this plea agreement. One of the prosecutors

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Speaker 3: said that the investment was very much ongoing, and that

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Speaker 3: she asked him, well, what is not covered in the

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Speaker 3: sleek even if you are leaving the possibility for the

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Speaker 3: reading other future charges. So then the judge said, would

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Speaker 3: this include a possible FARA charge that's not registering as

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Speaker 3: a foreign agent. The prosecutor said, no, the deal would

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Speaker 3: not include that. It was at that point that she

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Speaker 3: if you can charge that, then what does this mean?

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Speaker 3: And the prosecutors, since she asked hunter Biden's attorneys about that,

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Speaker 3: that the plea agreement as far as they anders said,

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Speaker 3: it was now null and void. They were moving ahead

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Speaker 3: he has been charged with those two misdemeanor tax evasion charges.

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Speaker 3: But one thing we learned is that this investigation is

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Buck trying to unpack a little bit what

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Speaker 2: we heard there from that CNN report, And again this

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Speaker 1: So I am.

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Speaker 2: Until we see Hunter Biden have to walk out of

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Speaker 1: A rule is if you are.

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Speaker 2: Basically lobbying for a foreign interest, you have to file.

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Speaker 1: So here's the problem they run into PHARA is the

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Speaker 1: If they figured out that you weren't registered, they would say, oh,

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Speaker 1: So they establish this precedent that this is used, and

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden has his play. He is one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: How can the Biden Justice Department charge Paul Manifort and others.

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Speaker 1: you can't have a federal plea agreement that's supposed to

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Speaker 1: investigation going on. Effectively, he could sign this plea deal

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Speaker 1: We all know why.

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Speaker 2: I give credit to the judge for as asking these

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Speaker 2: a judge who's examining this plea agreement. I also want

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Speaker 2: make sure buck that we were playing not only you know,

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Speaker 4: Listen, we haven't been able to see these court documents today,

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Speaker 4: but apparently as part of the pre trial diversion agreement,

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Speaker 4: so the gun charge that Hunter Biden faces, there are

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Speaker 4: additional tax charges that are covered in that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Biden said no, your honor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's cocky, buck, but this is important because

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Speaker 2: the prosecutor here, Weiss, if I'm not mistaken, names all

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden investigation remains ongoing, and there's been this conflict

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Speaker 2: this clears the deck. Our guy is clean. There is

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Speaker 2: nothing else outstanding that could put him in legal peril

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Speaker 2: or jeopardy. Which is why, to be fair, Buck, if

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Speaker 2: I'm putting on my Hunter Biden lawyer hat, the reason

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Speaker 1: Now, you don't get blanket immunity.

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Speaker 2: Right If Hunter Biden walked out, got drunk, drove in

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Speaker 2: to be involved detail associated with this. In other words,

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Speaker 2: it would be a future act. What they're dealing with

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Speaker 2: here is the prosecutors, maybe because of the pressure this

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Speaker 2: the sum total of all the penalties that Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: could face under all of these investigations. The judge specifically

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Speaker 2: questioning about the Foreign Regulation Act there and whether or

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Speaker 2: the moment, this entire plea deal has fallen apart. Now

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Speaker 2: of this Delaware courtroom right now, I'd be saying, Buck, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what's the significance if the Plea deal falls apart? Well,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election season and probably end up Hunter

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Speaker 1: There should have been a special council appointed at the

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Speaker 1: just google you know, MSNBC Hunter Biden and see what

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Speaker 1: Because let's be clear, there are massive well you know,

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Speaker 1: now I start to think, okay, how does this affect everything,

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Speaker 1: including the twenty twenty four election, because if Hunter Biden, now,

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Speaker 1: if I can just say this, I think that they're

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Speaker 1: That's still my inclination that they'll plead, you know, I

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Speaker 1: maybe they even get Hunter to go into a halfway

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Speaker 1: a little bit more Clay's. Clay's looking at this. This

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Speaker 1: From the front lines of freedom and truth, Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. All right, welcome back, everybody. We are

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Speaker 1: The deal is off. The deal is on. The deal

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Following the bat ball, here the chaos that has unspooled

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Speaker 1: a long time. When it came to Trump world, five

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Speaker 1: years Clay on the Pharah charge alone. Yeah, Now this

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Speaker 1: is where I say they're just not going to charge

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Speaker 1: him with it. I mean, this is what you're just

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Speaker 1: not gonna see it happen. In my opinion, right now.

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Speaker 2: But theoretically I have to go and see what would

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Speaker 2: the as a statute five limitations. I don't know when

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Speaker 2: the statute of limitations on it would be either, that's

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Speaker 2: the next question to ask, and maybe I mean, basically.

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Speaker 1: If you have a Republican president who comes in and

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Speaker 1: there are crimes and they can point to Look, the

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Speaker 1: other part of this is, was there anything going on

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Speaker 1: with Hunter and Joe while Joe's been president, which we

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Speaker 1: don't really talk about at all, looks at the old stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's I wouldn't put that beyond the realm.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking up right now on what it is for Pharah.

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Speaker 2: I remember you said they charged them with conspiracy to

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Speaker 2: violate Parah, So you may be able to also use

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Speaker 2: the conspiracy statute, depending on how exactly that's defined.

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Speaker 1: FARA statute is five years, so that means even if

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Speaker 1: you get a Republican in twenty twenty four, no dice.

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Speaker 2: The amazing thing about this is it's possible that this

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Speaker 2: plea agreement. According to the Hunter Biden team when they negotiated,

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Speaker 2: it was freeing Hunter Biden free and clear from all

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Speaker 2: future prosecutions too. Because remember Weiss has said this investigation

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Speaker 2: is ongoing. I don't even know what that means. And

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Speaker 2: also he has to have the authority to bring charges.

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Speaker 2: They already let the statute of limitations expire on was

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Speaker 2: it twenty fourteen? In twenty fifteen unpaid taxes. So think

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Speaker 2: about this for a minute. Your federal government just said

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Speaker 2: to Hunter Biden, oh, that's okay, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: pay your taxes for twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. And

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Speaker 2: there are no real consequences for that failure. That's what

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Speaker 2: they said. They would never say that to you or me.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the Wall Street Journal has an editorial today

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Speaker 2: Buck that says, and I don't have the headline in

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Speaker 2: front of me right now, but it basically says, if

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Speaker 2: you were Hunter Biden, you would be in prison.

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Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent true for anyone listening to

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Speaker 1: this right now. Unless another member of the Biden family

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Speaker 1: happens to be listening to this, you would be in prison. Clay,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like, Okay, now it looks like it's done,

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Speaker 1: sign sealed, delivered, the deal went through. Does it feel

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Speaker 1: like though they's officially gone through yet? Because there were

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Speaker 1: talks that they're going through. I got to hit refresh

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Speaker 1: or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I still say this judge, while she did force

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Speaker 2: potentially in some way an adjustment of the plea agreement,

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Speaker 2: did not do her job as a member of the

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Speaker 2: federal judiciary. I would have refused to accept this plea

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Speaker 2: agreement that is fully within her authority. And I think again,

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Speaker 2: this just provides further evidence that the fix is in

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to Hunter Biden and not having to

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Speaker 2: take any consequences for his behavior now.

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Speaker 1: And this is because he's going to be the Democrat

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Speaker 1: presidential nominee or his dad as I mean, and he's

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Speaker 1: running for office again, and the entire system will be

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Speaker 1: corrupted to the absolute maximum. I know everyone's sitting there

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Speaker 1: right now, and this is going to run through their

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Speaker 1: heads a lot, because it's running through mine a lot.

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Speaker 1: Look at what the system just did for Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 1: and look at what the system is about to do

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Speaker 1: and already has done against Donald Trump and his associates

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Speaker 1: and people around him, right. I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we forget about how hard they went after I mean,

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Speaker 1: they completely ambushed and lied and defamed and tried to

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Speaker 1: destroy General Flynn. They did, you know, they locked up

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Speaker 1: Manifort for for many, many years, for basically the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: Here's a here's a fun question, everybody, What is so

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Speaker 1: different about what Paul Manifort was convicted for versus what

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden isn't even being touched for, same stuff, taking

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Speaker 1: money from people abroad, not paying taxes on it, wired

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Speaker 1: the same stuff. So well, you know, we off to

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Speaker 1: sit here and say we've seen this. We've seen exactly

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Speaker 1: how corrupt this system really is.

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Speaker 2: Look, the Democrats will use power in the Justice Department

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Speaker 2: in a way that has never occurred in the history

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Speaker 2: of the United States. And the part to me that

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Speaker 2: they were that they would be willing to do so

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Speaker 2: is a huge story.

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Speaker 1: To me. An even bigger story.

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Speaker 2: Is that the media that claims they care about democracy

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Speaker 2: dying in darkness and all the news that fit to

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Speaker 2: print is not covering what is such a rank double

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Speaker 2: standard the treatment of Hunter Biden compared to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and also larger scale, the treatment of Joe Biden compared

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Speaker 2: to the way that the media treated Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump. I want to keep hammering this home

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Speaker 2: because I think it's very important. Nixon, Clinton and Trump

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Speaker 2: are nowhere near as credibly accused during their presidency of

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Speaker 2: high crimes and misdemeanors as Joe Biden has been Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's behavior, you can even argue Buck from a truly

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Speaker 2: constitutional perspective, because disagree with me if you think I'm

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Speaker 2: one of the mean Bill Clinton had definely committed a

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Speaker 2: felony by lying under oath.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's you know, okay, it's not as

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Speaker 1: not as big a deal as bribery, though I get

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, Yeah, bribery.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing that most of us would care

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Speaker 2: about as voters is are our elected officials being paid

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Speaker 2: to alter their behavior by foreign interest, not even national interest,

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Speaker 2: which is scary, foreign interest in a way that delegitimizes

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Speaker 2: their ruling authority.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to escalate that to foreign adversaries. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. China and Ukraine. I mean the

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Speaker 1: corruption and the the usage of US power for individual,

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Speaker 1: olive gark interest in that country. We're dragged into, We're

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Speaker 1: dragged into supporting a war there right now. I mean

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Speaker 1: the high stakes. As we've been saying all along.

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Speaker 2: I think you can argue that what Nixon was accused of,

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Speaker 2: what Bill Clinton was accused of, and what Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: was accused of, I'm incredibly accused of, right like actual

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Speaker 2: people under legitimately saying I'm not talking about the Steele dossier,

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Speaker 2: credible under oath. Joe Biden, by himself is credibly accused

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Speaker 2: of more significant issues than all three of those presidents

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Speaker 2: were combined. Because really, when you break down what was

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this over the course of what

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Speaker 2: was Watergate a stupid break in of a Democrat Party headquarters.

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Speaker 2: It was the cover up of Watergate, but the actual

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Speaker 2: crime itself was so slipshot and stupid it didn't actually

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Speaker 2: impact anything. Bill Clinton got impeached for a sexual liaison

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Speaker 2: and lyeing about it. But again, was that anywhere near

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Speaker 2: taking millions of dollars in payments from foreign adversaries like

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Trump. Everything was totally manufactured against Trump.

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Speaker 2: Biden isn't just worse than each of those three buck,

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Speaker 2: I think you can make a strong argument that Biden

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Speaker 2: is worse than all three of those combined in terms

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Speaker 2: of the credible allegations that would justify impeachment for him.

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Speaker 2: Compared to the other three presidents that have been impeached

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Speaker 2: in our lifetimes and look.

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Speaker 1: What the Department of Justice just did for his son. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we have. I know it's it's upsetting, but Fix

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Speaker 1: has been an all along play.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. We'll take your calls eight hundred

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Speaker 2: be talking to Chris Christy, who has been in some

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Speaker 2: of these courtrooms for plea agreements. I'm curious how he

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Speaker 1: tem welcome back, and I just want to let you

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Speaker 1: know we are in the next hour going to be

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Speaker 1: talking a bit here about uh well, we got Chris

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Speaker 1: Christy joining, who's former federal prosecutor in New Jersey. We'll

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Speaker 1: ask him about this Hunter Biden just mess today with

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Speaker 1: the PLEA agreement. Looks like it's all sign sealed and

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Speaker 1: delivered the system protecting Hunter, which is not a surprise. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Also, the UFO hearing. There is

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Speaker 1: a UFO hearing, and there's some pretty interesting stuff that

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Speaker 1: is being said. I by nature am skeptical a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were calling in yesterday to say that they

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Speaker 1: are not skeptical of extraterrestrial life having visited the planet

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Speaker 1: before Clay, what was the you put out a poll,

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Speaker 1: what was the final tally on it? Can you let

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Speaker 1: us know?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so twenty six thousand people voted. Let me pull

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Speaker 2: up the absolute latest on that. Because we were having

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Speaker 2: this discussion yesterday as we knew that this was going

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Speaker 2: to be taking place, and I asked, essentially if you

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Speaker 2: believed that a UFO piloted by you know, some sort

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Speaker 2: of some sort of out of this world had ever

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Speaker 2: the final tally ended up being. I was checking it

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Speaker 2: last night and there's lots of lots of clips. Here's

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Speaker 2: the question, do you believe UFOs piloted with alien technology

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Speaker 2: have ever visited Earth? There's thirty eight minutes left. If

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Speaker 2: anybody wants to vote, I'll retweet this right now. But

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Speaker 2: thirty one thousand votes fifty four percent yes, forty six

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Speaker 2: percent no. So I mean close to what is a

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Speaker 2: really I think fun discussion point when fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: you know, half of you out there in theory listening

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Speaker 2: to us think this is a crazy idea. The other

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Speaker 2: half think it's happened. That's a topic that makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of that here coming up in

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Speaker 1: a few minutes, as we said, and in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: we are calls coming in also VIP emails. You want

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Speaker 1: to be a VIP, go to Clayandbuck dot com. That's

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Speaker 1: Clayandbuck dot com. Please sign up there and you can

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Speaker 1: get access to the VIP inbox. We have VIP John

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Speaker 1: from San Antone, San Antonio, Texas. What's up, John? We

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Speaker 1: don't Oh, I thought we had. Oh, I'm sorry, Here

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Speaker 1: we go. It's an email. I thought it was VIP

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Speaker 1: John calling the phones my bat. Does this set a

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Speaker 1: legal precedent for the Biden defense for others in the future, John,

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Speaker 1: The answer is not really. I can just tell you

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Speaker 1: because if they're ignoring what they've already ignored, they'll just

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Speaker 1: ignore other stuff too, Meaning the double standard defense is

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Speaker 1: never a good one, never a good one to put

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Speaker 1: out there, right. I think that the what was it

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Speaker 1: the young National Guard guy who was sharing classified stuff

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Speaker 1: with his video game buddies online and then some of

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Speaker 1: it leaked out from one of them, not from him.

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Speaker 1: He is not a whistleblower. That was an incorrect assessment

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Speaker 1: by some people. He was reckless with classified information. It's

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Speaker 1: a bad idea, but there I think he was saying, Clay, Well,

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Speaker 1: look what Joe Bier, his defense team said, look with

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden or even mar A Lago the documents, and

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Speaker 1: they're like, no, that's not gonna fly. Yeah. So the

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Speaker 1: double standard defense. If you're doing the double standard defense,

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Speaker 1: the you're gonna be probably pleading guilty. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you probably can't afford Hunter's legal team.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, you're probably not the son of the President of

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Speaker 2: the United States, which is ultimately what Hunter got. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you really wanted to argue that, you know, privilege

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Speaker 2: was a thing. Hunter Biden's probably the most privileged criminal

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Speaker 2: defendant in maybe modern American history. James at Davenport, Iowa,

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Speaker 2: I believe is out there wants to weigh in, James,

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Speaker 2: what you got.

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Speaker 5: I think that this is the clon Travis, the theater

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Speaker 5: of the absurd. I think that this whole deal that

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Speaker 5: was made was showcasing the incompetence of our justice system.

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Speaker 5: It's not a double standard so much as it people

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Speaker 5: assuming that mister Teflon Hunter Biden would be able to

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Speaker 5: get away with this. And it's a case where the

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Speaker 5: slap on the risk is just a kind of a

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Speaker 5: show place kind of compromise. And I agree with you

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Speaker 5: guys that this is not only a sweetheart for him,

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Speaker 5: but this is something that Trump is not going to

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Speaker 5: look forward to next year when he has his his

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Speaker 5: dad court.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, thank you, James, I say, Claik. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine if in the Marlago documents case they came

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Speaker 1: up with, you know, some kind of failure to procedurally

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Speaker 1: request whatever, whatever, no jail time, no misde you know, nothing,

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Speaker 1: and they offered him something where it's effectively a speeding

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Speaker 1: ticket or you know, or less.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be for drugs and you get two misdemeanors.

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Speaker 2: Democrats would lose their mind if that were the same

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Speaker 2: offer amp for Donald Trump going forward.

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Speaker 1: No, Look, this is a.

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Speaker 2: Rig job, and it's a rig job that I think

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Speaker 2: was so embarrassing that even left wingers took note of it,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's why we've seen the chaos in

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Speaker 2: the courtroom so far. We'll continue to discuss all this

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Speaker 2: in Mortant.

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Speaker 1: Keep hanging