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Speaker 3: Welcome back our next guest, former NFL offensive lineman. He's

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Speaker 3: got a lot of connections to the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: so obviously he wanted them to get Breese Hall from

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Speaker 3: Mike Jets. He also played at Oregon. Welcome in Jeff

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Speaker 3: Schwartz from the Bear Bets Podcast. Jeff obviously wearing his

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Speaker 3: Oregon Ducks year very excited. Hey, how nervous are you

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Speaker 3: for that that Iowa game? You can't just walk in

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Speaker 3: Iowa and expect to get a w Jeff.

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Speaker 4: That's what I've heard. I've heard for days now. Can't

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Speaker 4: get win in Iowa. It's too hard it win in Iowa.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun game, it's gonna be physical,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a battle between two teams that they

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Speaker 4: want to do the same thing, both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Or can get passed the ball a little bit better,

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Speaker 4: but they've struggled against the better defense to pass the football.

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Speaker 4: What I'm looking for from organ side is I want

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Speaker 4: to see some aggressiveness on offense. I felt like the

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Speaker 4: Indiana game, we play a little too passively, right, we

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Speaker 4: let Indiana bring it to us. And maybe it's the

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Speaker 4: wrong idea to let to to you know, to do

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Speaker 4: that to Iowa. But I want to see some aggressiveness

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Speaker 4: for our passing. The weather might be bads, we'll see

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Speaker 4: if that affects that. But I like our defense. I

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Speaker 4: like that matchup against Iowa's offensive defense is really good.

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Speaker 4: Iowa can't throw the ball. We have not struggled against

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Speaker 4: offenses like this in the past. The offensive struggle against

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Speaker 4: Ohio State, the Washington's, the Indians. We throw the ball

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Speaker 4: a little bit more. So I'm looking forward. The game

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Speaker 4: is gonna be little scoring, man Like, It's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be easy. It's gonna be a grind. Can we avoid mistakes? Right?

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Speaker 4: I was so good on special teams? Can you avoid

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Speaker 4: some sort of special teams error? So look what Iowa

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Speaker 4: does so well, It's very hard to do in this sport.

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Speaker 4: If they just don't make mistakes, right. They let other

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Speaker 4: teams make the mistakes for them. And if you can

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Speaker 4: avoid that's the best path to winning.

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Speaker 3: This Saturday, I took the six just a little nibble,

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Speaker 3: a little action play.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you about Dante Moore.

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Speaker 3: I had a Devin Gardner, a college football announcer who

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Speaker 3: knows Dante Moore well.

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Speaker 5: I had him on my podcast.

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Speaker 3: He is of the belief that Dante Moore probably stays

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Speaker 3: in school.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: Dante Moore was a early in the season. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: this guy's lights out. Then came the Indiana game and

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Speaker 3: everybody's pulled back a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Where are you on the Oregon quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he stays one more year. I don't

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Speaker 4: have any inside information, but look this stabs in building

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Speaker 4: for twenty twenty six. If you look at the recruits

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Speaker 4: that they have, the transferporter players, the roster, they have

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Speaker 4: the young at running back, nung get wide receiver, the

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Speaker 4: young and the secondary. They got a lot of young

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Speaker 4: defensive lineman. They're gonna be you know, young linebacker next season,

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Speaker 4: like they sort of been building for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: And you can make the case that with nil now

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Speaker 4: players staying sometimes. We saw Ohio State do it last year, right,

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Speaker 4: everyone comes back. We saw Washington twenty twenty three, they

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Speaker 4: had like eight draft picks come back to try to

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Speaker 4: win a championship. They were a couple drives short against

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Speaker 4: maybe convinced one of the offensive linement or two to

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Speaker 4: plan is for next season when everyone's a little bit

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Speaker 3: While we're on college football, any glaring omission screw ups

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Speaker 3: by the College Football Committee seem like a relatively clean

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Speaker 3: and peaceful first offering your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interesting because this is the first year

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Speaker 4: we've heard early on that they're going eye test and film.

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Speaker 4: We've never heard that before, and I've always thought that

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Speaker 4: are humans watching the games, So I'm glad they're actually

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Speaker 4: they're actually acknowledging that. I'm telling you guys right now,

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Speaker 4: the team that is going to be disruptor, and you

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Speaker 4: have to accept this is Texas if they beat Georgia.

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Speaker 4: If Texas beats Georgia, they're going to be in the

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Speaker 4: top seven probably most likely. Whereas why you was dropping out.

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Speaker 4: If Oregon loses, they're out right like they're gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Georgia will If they lose to Texas, they're out of

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Speaker 4: the top seven, and then Texas might be the first,

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Speaker 4: you know, three loss non conference champion to be in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. If they beat Georgia, they go to top seven.

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Speaker 4: They lose to A and M the end of the season,

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Speaker 4: They're not dropping out of the top ten losing to

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Speaker 4: the number three team in the country in a close game.

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Speaker 4: Let's say so to me, it's Texas, man. I think Texas.

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Speaker 4: They're playing slightly better every week, which is important. They

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Speaker 4: Texas the playoff team. I only when people are taking

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Speaker 5: It's weird.

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Speaker 3: You know, they suffer the early loss to Ohio State

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Speaker 3: and then they beat Oklahoma. I mean Matier just coming

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Speaker 3: off the injury, like I just look at the resume.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, the win over Vandy's is swell, But

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Speaker 3: I mean it was Vanderbilt. Who were, you know, smoking

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Speaker 3: mirrors all season.

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Speaker 5: I'm not buying.

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Speaker 3: The Texas side. Do you think they can actually win

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Speaker 3: it Georgia. I haven't seen a line for that game yet,

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Speaker 3: I would get yes, it's probably north of seven for Georgia.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably about seven. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: that the teams are going to are going to rate these,

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Speaker 4: you know, closer to Georgia has been itching for a loss. Man. Look,

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Speaker 4: the best thing they've done this season, and I get

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Speaker 4: Kirby credit, is you know they have been hard to kill,

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Speaker 4: right he said that to us on the bare bets

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Speaker 4: Pockets had him on last week. But they've played enough

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Speaker 4: close games now where one of them is not going

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Speaker 4: to be in their direction. We know how this goes

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Speaker 4: with these close games, right. They've had multiple comebacks this series.

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Speaker 4: They've done a great job. They've won the games that

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Speaker 4: is important to win the football game. But I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying Texas gonna win that game. I'm just saying they

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Speaker 4: and maybe it goes the other direction and Texas ends

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Speaker 4: to your point, I don't if I trust Texas to

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Speaker 4: win that game. But I just want people to understand that,

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Speaker 4: like I think we've ignored Texas because the way they

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Speaker 4: started the season, they're very much in the hunt to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's pivot to the NFL and another

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Speaker 3: green team had a monster, monster day yesterday.

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Speaker 5: That's my New York Jets. You could go ahead and

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Speaker 3: The Sauce deal felt like a bit of a heist

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Speaker 3: for a desperate team, and the Quinn Williams deal is

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Speaker 3: laughable from Jerry's perspective, another bad deal by a bad owner.

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Speaker 3: So the Jets are they winning the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 3: twenty eight or twenty nine?

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Speaker 4: Look, I think you give yourself the best option now

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Speaker 4: to be aggressive finding the quarterback right, Because look, I

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Speaker 4: understand trading away core players on defense that are good.

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Speaker 4: Something Sauce is good. You know, changing the team might

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Speaker 4: be helpful for him. I certainly Williams can play better.

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Speaker 4: I think you get dragged out. I've been on bad

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Speaker 4: weight of losing. And now you're playing, especially sauce right

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Speaker 4: probably pick your play up a little bit, but you're

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Speaker 4: trading away those players knowing that you cannot win without

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Speaker 4: this draft or the next draft, to get the guy

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Speaker 4: in the future. You cannot win if you're on a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: So I like what the Jets did. I thought if

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Speaker 4: a static. The Colts took a big gamble. I think

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones and Dallas just he needs chaos in his life.

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Speaker 4: He needs like to always do something and feel something,

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Speaker 4: so he makes these trades and trade makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: But I just did a really good job here of

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Speaker 4: just giving themselves a lot of options come this spring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna look elsewhere in the league. Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: You know a lot of teams reactionary, and I know

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Speaker 3: they didn't look sharp against the Bills and Isaiah Pacheco

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Speaker 3: did not play. There's some issues with the run game.

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Speaker 3: I saw some defensive breakdowns the Bills. Jeff played with

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Speaker 3: six defensive backs almost the entire game and dared the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs to run the football on him, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: Now, I know they were down some offensive linemen, but

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Speaker 5: are you surprised.

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Speaker 3: They didn't go out and make a move and overpay

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Speaker 3: if you will, for Breese Hall. Apparently they were offering

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Speaker 3: the hell out of Dodge.

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Speaker 5: But did the Chiefs need a running back?

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Speaker 4: But they don't have a lot of draft picks next season,

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Speaker 4: Chiefs fans want him to play running back. You have

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Speaker 4: to be able to pass protect and a lot of

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Speaker 4: times young guys don't play early because they're not ready

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Speaker 4: has not played a lot of running back in his

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Speaker 4: pass protection, he could be your answer. He's a he's

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Speaker 4: Mac with the game plan against Buffalo. You mentioned it, right,

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Speaker 4: all the defense tackles, hurts, just run the football like

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Speaker 4: they just sometimes I feel like have their own worst

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Speaker 4: know what that game plan was. They have games where

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Speaker 4: they don't commit to it. And so look, give Buffalo credit,

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Speaker 4: they played really well. They were the better team. But

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Speaker 4: I'm the Chiefs just game plan wise, I didn't love it.

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Speaker 4: And now you have a tough stretch, right, you have

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Speaker 4: the Broncos off of Buy, like you're in there now.

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Speaker 4: It's almost a must win if you want to win

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Speaker 4: the division, like coming off the buy and playing Denver.

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Speaker 3: Now, I know I'm a Chiefs hater. Blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: let's be real. Patrick Mahomes went pressured three of sixteen

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Speaker 3: against Buffalo. That's a staggering number. He was He seemed

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Speaker 3: reluctant to run. Mahomes, I mean, this was one of

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Speaker 3: this was one of the worst games of his career.

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Speaker 3: He genuinely looked confused, Jeff. And again, I'm not bashing him.

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Speaker 5: But I don't care. I'm just looking at that game.

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Speaker 3: Any bits any account this weekend on the NFL front,

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Speaker 5: Anything jump out to you or if you hit anything

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Speaker 4: If someone asked me to win an NFL side and

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Speaker 5: But going back I have.

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Speaker 4: I have not won NFL side in a long time,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I haven't want a waiter at a long time,

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Speaker 4: love to hear that to cover against Northwestern. So the NFL,

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Speaker 3: The numbers gone up though I see four and a

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Speaker 5: Ers defense has been sneaky bad.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's up and sneaky it's been bad because they

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Speaker 4: But the Niners defense is a problem because you don't

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Speaker 5: It'll be a good one.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz Bear Bets Podcast. I would say good luck

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Speaker 3: to your ducks, but I'm on the Hawkkeys small plus six.

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Speaker 5: Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 4: You can cover.

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Speaker 5: There you go, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 8: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, buddy, Thank you every buddy. All right,

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Speaker 3: good stuff from Jeff Schwartz. I wonder if Rachel and

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Speaker 3: Jeff had a bet on Oregon Northwestern. I don't even

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Speaker 8: All right, no respect for Northwestern on today's show, all.

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Speaker 3: Ry, I haven't looked at the college basketball team seasons underway,

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Speaker 8: It's just it's brutal out here.

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's go to Rachel with the news. No, no, no,

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 9: That Cowboys trade. We've mentioned just a few times on

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Speaker 9: the show. All types of reactions, but here's one from

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Speaker 9: quarterback Dak Prescott. Dak told the media he was bleeping pumped.

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Speaker 8: For Quentin and Williams to join the team.

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Speaker 9: Head coach Brian Schottenheimer added, quote, good os to Jerry,

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Speaker 9: Does that convince you that this was a brilliant move

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Speaker 3: I would be so concerned if Dak was like, what

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Speaker 3: the hell are we doing already?

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Speaker 5: You're out of your mind.

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Speaker 3: It just I don't see how you move off Micah

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Speaker 3: into Quinn Wims and I know it's for next year.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, da'x had a rich injury history

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Speaker 3: What are we doing with Pickens in the offseason? Like,

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Speaker 3: just still a lot of questions. We have a Cowboys

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Speaker 3: reporter coming up in about twelve minutes who hopefully can

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Speaker 3: address some stuff. But hey, I will say this about Dak.

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Speaker 3: The more he talks, the more I like him.

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Speaker 9: Look, I knew how down you were on this trade,

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Speaker 9: so I thought I would look up some other trade

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Speaker 9: grades from other sources.

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Speaker 8: Our own Fox Sports website.

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Speaker 9: Gave this a C minus for Dallas. For Dallas, The

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Speaker 9: Athletic gave it a B minus. CBS gave it a

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Speaker 9: So you know, I think most people agree with you

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott is my point.

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Speaker 5: Good stuff there.

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Speaker 8: You go, all right to hardwood.

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Speaker 9: Desmond Baine got two further pray someone here last night, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Fowel and then what was that about?

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Speaker 8: Right? Oh? In The point is because he fells and

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Speaker 5: Broh, that is greenery easy? And then he points it

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Speaker 5: is that a capella or oh no, it's a congo.

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Speaker 9: We felled, he got a flagrant, he got a tech.

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Speaker 9: He said after the game, he was surprised. He was ejected.

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Speaker 5: Why'd not thrown me out?

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Speaker 8: I just expected a regular foul.

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Speaker 9: He finished two for six from the floor three turnovers

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Speaker 9: before he did hit the showers. That is, Do you

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Speaker 9: agree with the officials or with Bane? Should he have

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Speaker 5: So a quick backup.

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Speaker 3: So he was supposed to be like a big pickup

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Speaker 3: just frustrated with how things are going. I know there's

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Speaker 3: some analytic tension. They're actually better with being off the

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Speaker 9: I mean, look, they were picked though for getting to

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Speaker 5: You're like, whoa, what's that about? Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: they're not going to suspend him, do you think, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, he has a history of some of these heated insights.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the league office is going to get involved,

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's when they get involved.

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Speaker 9: In this kind of thing, it's because oh well, repetitive.

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Speaker 3: It's less about it's more than they like.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's fifteen yards and maybe an eject college.

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Speaker 5: Football, they're tossing you target out.

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Speaker 8: I'm surprised he was ejected. Wow, there you go. All right,

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Speaker 9: After Kyler Murray was listed as inactive on Monday night,

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Speaker 9: there was speculation about his future in Arizona. Speculation is

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Speaker 9: only growing as head coach Jonathan Gannon announced Jacoby Brissette

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Speaker 9: now new timelines are being reported for Murray's.

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Speaker 9: ESPN reporting it could be another month or two. No,

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Speaker 3: You're skeptical about medical report last week on Friday, I

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I did ask this.

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Speaker 3: In the morning meeting and I got, you know, a

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Speaker 3: four years from now, is Kyler Murray in the NFL

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's playing major league baseball.

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Speaker 5: Those are around baseball.

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Speaker 8: It's been a wild though.

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Speaker 3: Just the attitude I've seen from him in the last

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Speaker 9: I mean, come on, well, look if you look at

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Speaker 9: The third down conversion rate is near fifty percent. If

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Speaker 9: you look at their results, this is a crazy number.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 9: So they're three and five now, but if they had

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Speaker 8: That's a that is a big spread.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's saying Brissett's a franchise quarterback, right, I don't think

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Speaker 3: I would love it if somebody found me a legit

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Speaker 3: landing spot for Kyler. I keep hearing Saints and Raiders, right,

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Speaker 3: why would they do that?

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Speaker 8: I mean there's usually someone.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's dumb enough to be like, I can fix this guy.

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Speaker 9: Well, We've seen a lot of guys fixed recently, right,

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Speaker 9: we have. So I think people now are like, oh,

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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones is doing pretty well in Indianapolis, like that

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Speaker 9: sort of thing, and Sam Darnold's doing well in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: And check back out in December on DJ Is it

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Speaker 3: Danny Lou's change?

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Speaker 5: Is it Indiana Jones?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean Indiana Jones's good.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 8: It's good. You can't blame him for you know, digging

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Speaker 8: that one.

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Speaker 3: And listen, Danie Jones has been great, that's undeniable. I

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Speaker 3: just when you see the Kyler interviews, I mean there

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Speaker 3: was a question about him about the new facility in

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Speaker 3: practice Field. He's like if I'm here, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's not funny bro No.

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Speaker 9: And the coaches know that if he comes back in

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Speaker 9: and if the status of them losing more games than

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Speaker 9: winning from when he was playing, their jobs are dating.

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Speaker 3: And they got McBride and Harrison and they had Connor.

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Speaker 3: That's a good team. I'm a little surprised.

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Speaker 9: But hun, forty eight weeks maybe on that foot injury.

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Speaker 9: We don't even know what the foot injury is, but

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Speaker 9: not no specifics, but this the tweet from chapter was

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Speaker 9: forty eight weeks because if he comes back too soon,

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Speaker 9: it could do more long term.

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Speaker 5: What is this a Jones fracture? We know NBA injuries.

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Speaker 3: We need to drill down. Are they are they skirting

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Speaker 3: the rules here? The Ravens got fined for that Lamar thing,

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Speaker 3: hunder k.

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Speaker 8: It could also be totally legitimate and we don't know.

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Speaker 5: It could be Yeah, all right, Rachel Nichols with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 3: All right, we are going live to Dallas for the

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Speaker 3: Vibe on the Ground, Boots on the ground after the

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Speaker 3: big quinnin Williams trade. That's next here on the Herd.

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Speaker 6: And right.

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Speaker 9: Start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable Second Rate Hoo's

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Speaker 9: your's all eyes, including Jason's. By the way, on Fernando

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Speaker 9: Mendoza as he reads Indiana and continues.

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Speaker 8: His Heisman campaign against Penn State. It all starts with

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Speaker 8: Big Noon kickoff at ten am Eastern. Then it's Indiana.

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Speaker 9: Penn State Big Noon Saturday only on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good one. Klat talked about that game earlier.

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Speaker 3: All right, quickly, I don't know if you missed it earlier.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones talked about this Quinn Williams trade and listen

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Speaker 3: to him trying to really sell the fan base on

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Speaker 3: acquiring the Jets defensive tackle.

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Speaker 6: I don't have time personally to have a bad time.

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Speaker 6: It's not on my schedule, and so I have a

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Speaker 6: natural urgency because of my age, and so my tomorrow's

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Speaker 6: the immediate tomorrow a big thing to me. And I

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Speaker 6: also have enough disciplined not to get in trouble for

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Speaker 6: years to come, all right.

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Speaker 3: So to make sense of it, let's bring in John Machoda,

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Speaker 3: covers the Cowboys for the Athletic.

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Speaker 5: He's been covering Cowboys football forever.

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Speaker 3: John, another day in Paradise for you, just your big picture.

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Speaker 3: The move to get Quinn Williams on the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Was it for this year? Next year?

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Speaker 3: Was it well calculated? Was it an irrational decision off

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Speaker 3: the Arizona loss?

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Speaker 5: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 11: So most of us believe that their chances of making

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Speaker 11: the playoffs are done, and they were ended with that

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Speaker 11: loss on Monday Night to the Cardinals. But Jerry Jones

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Speaker 11: is the eternal optimist, and so he will say it's

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Speaker 11: about this year. You'll talk about how much Quinn can

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Speaker 11: help him. This season, they did more five down linemen

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Speaker 11: looks against the Cardinals and that's the plan going forward.

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Speaker 7: But realistically speaking, this.

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Speaker 11: Deal doesn't get done if the future isn't the big

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Speaker 11: part of it. If Williams is an under contract beyond

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Speaker 11: the season, they're not making this move. And so Jerry

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Speaker 11: can say it's about this season and that he still

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Speaker 11: has hopes and he wants fans to continue to tune

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Speaker 11: in and attend games at AT and T Stadium, but in

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Speaker 11: all reality, it is about next season and beyond. And

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Speaker 11: as bad as the Cowboys defense has been this season,

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Speaker 11: and it has been bad, it's been about as bad

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Speaker 11: as it's ever been in franchise history. A move like

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Speaker 11: this and there are a few other things they can

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Speaker 11: do in the offseason where it wouldn't be that hard

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Speaker 11: for me to sell to you that they could be

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Speaker 11: a legitimate contender next season.

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Speaker 7: This season, though, I'm not going to try and sell

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Speaker 7: it to you.

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Speaker 3: Wow, legitimate contender, that's a quantum leap.

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Speaker 5: Let me get so.

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Speaker 3: The linebackers are one of the worst groups in the league.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at their grades. Again, it's just football focus,

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Speaker 3: but they're all orange like bottom of the barrel.

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Speaker 5: Secondary stinks.

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Speaker 3: Listen, two years ago with McCarthy, they had the number

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Speaker 3: three rated defense, Mike McCarthy at the helm, Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: off the edge.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're getting back there even with you.

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Speaker 5: It should have Logan Wilson and Quinn Williams, do you.

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Speaker 11: I don't think they are this season. I really I don't.

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Speaker 11: I mean, there's just too many issues they've had defensively

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Speaker 11: for me to think that a player too is going

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Speaker 11: to fix all of those. But like I said, if

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Speaker 11: you talk about in the offseason, you got Demarvion Overstown's

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Speaker 11: coming back, who might be their best playmaker on defense,

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Speaker 11: who's coming.

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Speaker 7: Back from a major knee injury. Now he has to stay.

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Speaker 11: Healthy, but you have him with Quinn Williams, Osa Diggi Zua,

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Speaker 11: Donovan Azeraku who has been a young pass rusher that's

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Speaker 11: ascending for them. You can you're going to have two

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Speaker 11: first round picks the next year's draft. You could fix

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Speaker 11: this defense pretty quickly and offensively. They don't feel like

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Speaker 11: they're that far off as it is right now, and

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Speaker 11: so that's why, yeah, right now, you should not be

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Speaker 11: holding out hope that the Cowboys are going to make

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Speaker 11: this deep playoff run.

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Speaker 7: That's unlikely to happen.

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Speaker 11: But beyond this season, No, there's certainly something there where

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Speaker 11: they could turn this thing around quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to the offense at a secon but

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Speaker 3: quick question on the defense. So Bland is not delivering

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Speaker 3: like a ninety two million dollar man should. He got

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Speaker 3: roasted on Monday Night football. And then there's the mystery

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Speaker 3: of Trayvon Diggs, who I mean, as a rookie was

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Speaker 3: supposed to be the second coming of like frigging Dion

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Speaker 3: Sanders or something, and now he's got this mystery concussion

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Speaker 3: that he suffered at home that we don't have an

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Speaker 3: explanation on, and it sounds like he's going to be

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Speaker 3: shipped at the end of He's not going to be

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Speaker 3: here next year. What's going on with with Diggs in

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Speaker 3: the secondary?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's unlikely he will be on the team next season.

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Speaker 11: It just there obviously is a disconnect between him and

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Speaker 11: the team in terms of the concussion. You know, he's

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Speaker 11: been in the locker room since then. Now when he

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Speaker 11: was in concussion protocol, we couldn't talk to him, But

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Speaker 11: now he's on IR and he hasn't said anything about

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Speaker 11: any details about how the concussion happened and the way

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys have talked about it. It doesn't sound like

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Speaker 11: it's anything of you know, where there was any type

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Speaker 11: of a legal issue or anything where you know the

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Speaker 11: police would be involved. So they've kind of just put

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Speaker 11: him on ir and said that he's rehabbing from another

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Speaker 11: new knee injury and then obviously because of the concussion,

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Speaker 11: and so it's kind of like they're moving on with

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Speaker 11: new players and they probably want to get a look

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Speaker 11: at some of their younger corners. Savon Ravel, who they

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Speaker 11: drafted in the third round this year. He's come off

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Speaker 11: of a knee injury and so he's supposed to return

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Speaker 11: after the bye week, and I think that that's the

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Speaker 11: plan for them, And so it's not a great secondary

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Speaker 11: with them having the two first round picks and next

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Speaker 11: year's draft, I would bet a lot of money that

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Speaker 11: one of those two will be on a corner. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: the idea of having Digs and Bland out there and

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Speaker 11: Kyrie Elam like was their plan going into the season

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Speaker 11: has clearly been a disaster.

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Speaker 5: So okay, so next season, you know, the optimism, it's

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Speaker 5: always next year.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Jets fan, but I need to ask you

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Speaker 3: the offense has made a quite a leap this season,

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Speaker 3: largely thanks to mister Pickens. He's also in a contract year.

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Speaker 3: Jerry has not signed him yet.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that would.

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Speaker 3: Probably be a little early, John. I got to ask you,

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Speaker 3: are they retaining Pickens? I know Jerry loves to string

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Speaker 3: these things out for the reality TV show that is

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys, But your best guess is Pickens on this

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Speaker 3: team next year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, And I understand there is a small caveat people

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Speaker 11: will say whatever I'm about to say now, people will say, well,

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Speaker 11: you could say this about Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 7: So let me just let me add in there that

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Speaker 7: as long.

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Speaker 11: As George Pickens doesn't lie on a training table during

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Speaker 11: a preseason game and do some of the things that

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Speaker 11: you know, aggravated the Cowboys front office, you know, in

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Speaker 11: the two or three months leading up to when he

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Speaker 11: got traded, I anticipate that they will franchise tag George Pickens,

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Speaker 11: try and get him signed to a long term deal.

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Speaker 11: If it has not happened, then I can see them

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Speaker 11: having him play next year under that franchise tag. Now

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Speaker 11: that's around twenty eight million for a wide receiver, and

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Speaker 11: you're already paying Ceedee lamb over thirty million. But those

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Speaker 11: two have clicked too much for me to.

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Speaker 7: Think that Jerry will go in another direction.

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Speaker 11: Jerry loves his wide receivers, he loves his offensive playmakers,

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Speaker 11: he loves his offensive players. That's where he spends all

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Speaker 11: and so I just don't see a world where he

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Speaker 11: lets s George Piggins out of the building.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Can we ask Pickens how he feels about the

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Speaker 3: franchise tag. He's playing like a top ten twelve receiver

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Speaker 3: in the league. You know t Higgins didn't love the

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Speaker 3: franchise tag situation in Cincy. I'm sure Pickens is looking

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Speaker 3: around the league saying, hey, look what I did to

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Speaker 3: our offense.

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Speaker 5: You guys think it's shoddy. No, no, it's me.

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Speaker 3: And that's why Dak is looking like a potential you.

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Speaker 5: Know, MVP guy.

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Speaker 3: Pickins only twenty four turning twenty five. We know how

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Speaker 3: things went for him in Pittsburgh when it started to

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Speaker 3: go sideways. If he's not going to get paid, do

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Speaker 3: you think we see a little unhappy there?

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Speaker 7: Could be for sure.

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Speaker 11: Now I wasn't in Pittsburgh, and I can only go

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Speaker 11: off what.

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Speaker 7: I've seen from him.

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Speaker 11: In Dallas and I will say his the friendship he

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Speaker 11: has with Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 7: I highly doubt he had one.

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Speaker 11: Of those in Pittsburgh, and he certainly didn't have the

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Speaker 11: quarterback he has now in Pittsburgh. And Piggins and Dak

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Speaker 11: had become close as well. And so there's just a

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Speaker 11: part with the Cowboys where players can sometimes unite together

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Speaker 11: and keep each other in good spirits while Jerry's stirring

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Speaker 11: things up, and so I think that I think that

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Speaker 11: they can make it work. But yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 11: he would be thrilled to be playing under the franchise

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Speaker 11: tag by no means, especially with the season he's having

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Speaker 11: right now. And he does have the same agent as

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Speaker 11: Michael Parsons. So there's no shortage of drama in Dallas,

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Speaker 11: and they will not stop anytime soon either. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 11: if I had to predict right now, when they open

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Speaker 11: the season next year, week one, George Pickens is still

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Speaker 11: wearing the number three for the Dallas Cowboys, All.

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Speaker 5: Right, last one?

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Speaker 3: Real quick, Brian Schottenheimer, we are eight or nine games

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Speaker 3: in for the Cowboys. How would you grade him so

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Speaker 3: far at the midway point through the season.

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Speaker 7: I'd say he's probably c plus.

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Speaker 11: I think he does everything behind the scenes, and in

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Speaker 11: terms of dealing with Jerry Jones, that's not an easy task.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of other things that come with being

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys coach. I think he does a good job navigating.

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Speaker 11: You know, coming into work on a Friday morning, in

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Speaker 11: your finalizing your game planning, you find out that you're

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Speaker 11: not going to have your starting corner because he suffered

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Speaker 11: a concussion at his home the night before. You know,

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Speaker 11: things like that that a lot of other organizations you

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Speaker 11: have to deal with. I think Brian is well suited

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Speaker 11: for that, but you can't really give him any higher

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Speaker 11: grade than that because the wins just haven't been there

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Speaker 11: on the field. I mean, to go into the bye

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Speaker 11: week with only three wins and the hardest part of

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Speaker 11: their schedules coming up. I mean, I think he has

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Speaker 11: a chance to turn it around and have them finish strong.

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Speaker 11: But you know, to not even have consecutive wins through

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Speaker 11: the midway point of the seasons obviously not great. But

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Speaker 11: he's not going anywhere. Jerry loves him. He'll be here

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Speaker 11: for at least another season beyond this one.

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Speaker 5: It's weird.

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Speaker 3: They play up to their competition, right Eagles, Packers and

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Speaker 3: then down Caleb Williams loss, Bryce Young loss like eh,

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Speaker 3: all right. John Machoda covers the Cowboys for the Athletic

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Speaker 3: Great stuff, John, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy the Jerry scene.

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Speaker 7: I will, I will, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, good stuff Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Never adult moment. You know that's a job. When I

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Speaker 3: was a young guy, I wanted my job. I wanted

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Speaker 3: to cover the Lakers. I'm not kidding. And John is

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Speaker 3: probably basically covering the Lakers just in the NFL crazy

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Speaker 3: never a dull moment.

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Speaker 5: All right, great show.

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Speaker 3: First things first is next Coward's likely back tomorrow. He's

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Speaker 3: listed as probable on the injury report.

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