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Speaker 2: This week's Crunch Time performer, brought to you by McDonald's

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Speaker 2: new Buffalo Ranch Sauce, is Josh Allen best football player

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Speaker 2: in the world, second time in his career. Three passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: three rushing touchdowns in one game. It's like that junior

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Speaker 2: high football player that's got a mustache and nobody else

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Speaker 2: does right. No other player has ever done it once.

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Speaker 2: So Josh's performance was satisfying, just like the first bite

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Speaker 2: of the bakon creamy Buffalo Ma Crispy Ah was good.

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Speaker 2: He's a regular host of the Josh Pates College Football Show.

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Speaker 2: Totally tied into college football West Coast to East. So

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Speaker 2: years ago, I worked in Portland, Oregon for a spell

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Speaker 2: and Mike Belotti was the coach, Jeff Tedford was the coordinator.

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Speaker 2: They finished number two in the nation. One year they

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Speaker 2: got lucky not having to face Miami. They faced Colorado

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Speaker 2: and they matched up really well with Colorado and not

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Speaker 2: with Miami at all. And I think Nebraska played Miami

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Speaker 2: and got you know, there was like ninety eight percent

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Speaker 2: fans of the Rose Bulller Nebraska, but Miami kicked the

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Speaker 2: you know what out of them. So Oregon has used

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Speaker 2: two things to become a power. One was Phil Knight's

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Speaker 2: creativity and money to build facilities. When there used to

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Speaker 2: be the facilities war, right, that would used to be

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Speaker 2: a big deal pre NIL, Like, there was about a

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Speaker 2: ten year period it was an arms race for facilities

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Speaker 2: and Oregon was the forefront. They've actually used three things ingenuity,

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Speaker 2: one hundred different uniforms to impress Southern col kids to

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Speaker 2: be the cool place. USC has one uniform, Penn State's

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Speaker 2: got one. Oregon had a thousand, So they used phil

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Speaker 2: Knight's ingenuity, then phil Knight's money with facilities, and then

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Speaker 2: third phil Knight's money with nil where they are the

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Speaker 2: big bidder on the West coast. Most of my life,

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Speaker 2: when I grew up in the Northwest, you would think

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Speaker 2: you were going to land the number three running back.

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Speaker 2: In southern California, USC would get number one, UCLA two,

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Speaker 2: you'd get three, and then at the last moment he

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Speaker 2: would decide to just go to USC and be a backup.

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Speaker 1: But that changed.

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Speaker 2: Oregon now mostly gets as good as players as anybody

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Speaker 2: in the West Coast. I think this is an awful.

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Speaker 1: Matchup for USC.

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Speaker 2: The teams that beat USC Northwestern actually ran the ball

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Speaker 2: to them. Iowa can run the ball at you Michigan

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Speaker 2: last year. I think Oregon's going to be hard to block.

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Speaker 2: I think Oregon USC's O line young. I think Oregon's

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Speaker 2: gonna run on them. I think Oregon's a big playoffense

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Speaker 2: in USC on the back end. At corners week, if

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Speaker 2: Oregon and there are a nine and a half point

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Speaker 2: favorite wins Josh thirty three twenty one wins by two touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: how do you think we view I know how we

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Speaker 2: view Oregon, that's been established, that's an elite program. How

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Speaker 2: are we going to view USC? Because I think it's

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Speaker 2: a terrible matchup the same way people have been viewing them.

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Speaker 2: I largely see your way.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I would say is, you know, coming

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Speaker 1: talked about Pitt Notre Dame, you know, you could have

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Speaker 1: going to run right through them. I don't really care

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Speaker 1: So with this, like Oregon statistically top three pass defense

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Speaker 1: USC's got the same combo receivers that could come in there.

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Speaker 1: And if USC were to win this game and we

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Speaker 1: just more the same. Colum this probably you were. You

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Speaker 2: I mean I was joking with Lincoln off the air

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Speaker 2: Thing I always go back to, like Pete Carroll takes

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Speaker 2: It's kind of been a one receiver offense for a

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Speaker 2: It it's just it's hard. It's hard to stay to yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's the biggest economy in the country and Baton Rouge isn't.

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Speaker 2: But everybody knows in Baton Rouge, if you have money,

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Speaker 2: In Los Angeles, it's an incredibly distracted market. And more so,

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Speaker 2: remember when Pete Carroll was there, Josh, there was no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was just media either man. So like

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Speaker 2: And the Dodgers weren't the best organization in North America.

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Speaker 2: I think I said today, there's four or five programs

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Speaker 2: That for Oregan wants them. That wasn't the case four

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Speaker 2: They don't want to hear it. I said, USC is

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Speaker 2: do you view USC as an elite?

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Speaker 1: Georgia has always been They've been to my number one

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Speaker 1: But what's changed over the past, just like what's evolving

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Speaker 1: Whoever is about to take the Florida Gator job, they'll

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Speaker 1: Lincoln took the LA job, and it's like, this is great,

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Speaker 2: People are distracted. Tickets cost more, it's hard to commit

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Speaker 2: You know I talked today. I was talking to Joel

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Speaker 1: as well. Not to mention you're just coming off a

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Speaker 1: national championship. So there's that natural propensity to get a

431
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Speaker 1: little complacent, maybe come back to earth a little bit.

432
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Speaker 1: Everyone's gunning for you the next year. The bet I

433
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Speaker 1: don't know if the team overall is better, the defense

434
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: looks better, I don't know how that even happens. Matt

435
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Speaker 1: Patricia came in and here's one of the early warning signs.

436
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Speaker 1: I remember when Ryan Day got elevated there, and I remember,

437
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Speaker 1: you know, Ohio State is Ohio State, so they could

438
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Speaker 1: do a national search if they want to. They can

439
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Speaker 1: go land most any head coach they want. And they said, no,

440
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: the guy we need is already here. And I remember

441
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: some people looked at it and said, that's crazy. They're

442
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: cheating themselves by not doing this. Not do it. And

443
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: I looked at it and I said, they're not stupid.

444
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: They know what they have in the building. Just because

445
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Speaker 1: you don't know who Ryan Day is doesn't mean they don't. Well,

446
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: it's the same way when Ryan Day needed to fill

447
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: that defensive coordinator role. There are guys who would leave

448
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: really good jobs to be the DC at Ohio State.

449
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: And he went and got Matt Patricia. That's not a

450
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Speaker 1: name that would have been on anyone's radar. You take

451
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Speaker 1: the biggest industry insider, give me your top ten. Matt

452
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Speaker 1: Patricia's not on it, and Ryan goes and hires him.

453
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Speaker 1: And you see why like hiring. I mean, it comes

454
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Speaker 1: down the players making plays. But if you can staff

455
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Speaker 1: properly in college football and you have top fifteen talent,

456
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Speaker 1: let alone what they have, you're going to be really

457
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Speaker 1: hard to beat. Now that doesn't make him invincible, but

458
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about is there's going to have to

459
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Speaker 1: be a team if Ohio State gets eliminated that puts

460
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Speaker 1: together such an air tight like tight rope walk performance, precision, poise, accuracy,

461
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: no turnovers. That's what it's gonna take. That's what it

462
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: used to take to beat those Saban teams. It took

463
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Speaker 1: some insane performance. Somebody just plays out of his mind,

464
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Speaker 1: and if that happens, you tip your cat to the

465
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Speaker 1: other side. Short of that happening, Ohio State's gonna win

466
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Speaker 1: the national championship.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is the way to beat Saban

468
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: was Manzell or cam It was generally somebody that could

469
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Speaker 2: go off script that Nick couldn't prepare for. He just

470
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Speaker 2: there'd nothing you could do. I Nick knew you were

471
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Speaker 2: in the pocket. You could go back and look at this.

472
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he lost three times if he knew

473
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Speaker 2: we're going to be That's why I think Ohio State

474
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Speaker 2: beats Indiana because you know where Mendoz is gonna be.

475
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Speaker 2: The way to beat Ohio State or a great defense

476
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Speaker 2: is oh shit, Josh Allen. I mean, never forget what

477
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen did to Belichick when Belichick was in New England.

478
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Speaker 1: Bill couldn't do anything.

479
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Speaker 2: So the only quarterback that Bill's ever faced, even Peyton Manning,

480
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: he gave some trouble to He could do nothing with

481
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen because Josh actually when he was young, about

482
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Speaker 2: sixty percent of his game was off script. That was Manzel,

483
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Speaker 2: that was Camp. Those are the kind of guys that

484
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Speaker 2: just off script guys gave Saban trouble. And Mendoza is

485
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Speaker 2: a classic big arm pocket guy. And the other thing

486
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Speaker 2: is you could beat Nick if you got to lead

487
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: in the second half and his defense had to cheat

488
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Speaker 2: a little or guess right, like if if they could

489
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Speaker 2: dictate terms, Saban squeezed.

490
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Speaker 1: You out like a towel.

491
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Speaker 2: But if you made Nick trailed, Nick now was taking

492
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Speaker 2: some risk defensively, I've got to get the ball back.

493
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Speaker 2: We've got to generate pressure with extra people. I think

494
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Speaker 2: if Ohio State leads in the second half, you're in

495
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: big trouble if you have to throw against that. I

496
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: think you can the way to beat great defensive teams

497
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: in college off script and you force them to take

498
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Speaker 2: risks they normally wouldn't take because you lead.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think another thing that happened, like with Deshaun

500
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Speaker 1: Watson Clemson teams when they played another one. Yeah, it's

501
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: just that was that the I'm not saying it's the

502
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Speaker 1: first time you ever saw anyone run tempo, but it

503
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: was still that early period. Like Malzon comes into this

504
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: to the picture and like, guys are running tempo as

505
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Speaker 1: the foundational aspect of their offense for the first time.

506
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: So the game, like the rules hadn't shortened the game

507
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: yet either with the clock rules. Clemson ran over one

508
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: hundred offensive plays in one of those National Pantheonship games.

509
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Speaker 1: So I'd rarely seen Bama defense on the field. Trevor Lawrence. Yes, yeah, so.

510
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Speaker 2: Ran down the sideline against Alabama. I think it was

511
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Speaker 2: Alabama ran down the side again, Trevor and DeShawn It

512
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: was off script plays that beat Bama, not just the

513
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Speaker 2: pocket stuff.

514
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Speaker 1: That's why like that, Just you don't run that many

515
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Speaker 1: plays anymore. So that's another thing that's taken out of

516
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Speaker 1: the toolbox. See what you're saying is why I'm really

517
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Speaker 1: interested how Marcel Reed would play against them. Marcell, we're

518
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: coming off the worst half of football we'll ever see

519
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: him play in his life, follow him by one of

520
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: the best. So it's a little weird timing. But you know,

521
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: when you talk about matchups, people always misunderstand you intentionally.

522
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: There was, oh, you think A and M is better

523
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: than Ohio State? No one said that, dude. What I

524
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: did say is, out of all the matchups they could

525
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: draw in the postseason, yeah, that's the one that would

526
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: get my attention the most because that's the one that

527
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: would probably keep them up the night at night the longest.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I really feel like that. That's interesting you

529
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: bring that up. Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence, Johnny Manziel. Guys,

530
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Speaker 2: off script, they get a lead, Bama's got to create

531
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Speaker 2: a turnover.

532
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Speaker 1: They take a big risk.

533
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Speaker 2: I think the Ohio State's kind of that level, you know,

534
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Speaker 2: I I said this. I have been very much a

535
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: proponent of the college Football Playoff and il on the

536
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: transfer portal, and I'm a Packed twelve guy. But I

537
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: told friends three years before it disbanded, I said, the

538
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: conference is in big trouble. There's no money here. The

539
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: USC's getting thirty million a year. I said, they can

540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: make that going independent and pick their schedule and have

541
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: a better TV deal. At one point, Fox Sports, I

542
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: think went to USC and asked about buying all their

543
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: home games, buying a TV package. So, and I don't

544
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: want to speak above my pay grade, but I do

545
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: remember hearing a little bit of that in the building.

546
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: USC was grumbling for years about splitting revenue with CAL

547
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: and Washington State. I just didn't like it. So but

548
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: I think we both agree. I'll give you an example

549
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: of why Texas Oklahoma to the SEC and the four

550
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: PAC twelve schools to the Big Ten is great. I've

551
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: watched back to back Iowa games that were thrilling, that

552
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: were thrilling, Iowa Oregon thrilling game. I love seeing big

553
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: traditional schools never play each other, and this is the

554
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: one I remember. And then Iowa goes to LA in

555
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: another sloppy Weather game and plays USC and I'm like,

556
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: I have not watched back to back Iowa games start

557
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: to finish ever, maybe ever, ever ever in my life,

558
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: start to finish back to back Iowa games. I don't,

559
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: and I know I'm not alone on that. I saw

560
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: the ratings for both. So anybody that pushes back on this,

561
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: the convergence of the sec in Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Alabama,

562
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: you can't turn it off.

563
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: No, it's fantastic.

564
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Otherwise you get Oklahoma and Texas Tech.

565
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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit, right they. I mean you,

566
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Speaker 1: you were sitting there looking at a situation Saturday where

567
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: you've got oh you Bama, Texas Georgia sandwiched on top

568
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: of each other. Both of them popped to ten plus rating,

569
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's just like you're, you're you want to look

570
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: at it, and you want to say, I told you

571
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Speaker 1: this last week because I was going to the Texas

572
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Georgia game. I said, can you believe we get this

573
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: in the regular season? Just look at the helmets on

574
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Speaker 1: the field. At the same time, you don't have to

575
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: know a player's name, it's written. The spectacle of that

576
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: is amazing, And I think here's what people struggle with. So,

577
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about plaoff rankings a second ago,

578
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and you're talking about the PAC twelve dissolving as a conference,

579
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: and like there's some romanticism in it, Like there's a

580
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: part of you that hates to see it happen. It's

581
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: like your childhood being ripped away. There's another part of

582
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: you that understands the business side of it, and you

583
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: understand this is the way the college football world's going,

584
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: it's the way that the athletic world's going, the sporting

585
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: world's going. True, So there is still something we try

586
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: and cling to in the playoff model. All the conference

587
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: champs are going to be in there, so you're going

588
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: to have representation at the table. At least you're gonna

589
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: have a G five team in there. And I'm always

590
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: conflicted on this because I know it's not an accident

591
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: that ten plus million people are watching the games they're watching.

592
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Speaker 1: They're watching it because that's where the best football is largely.

593
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: And yet we've also got this construct where we are

594
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: headed towards a mess. On selection Sunday, there's going to

595
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: be this glut of two loss teams and we're gonna

596
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: have to maybe make room for a second Big twelve

597
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: team if Brigham Young's inside that bubble on the Saturday

598
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: before and they lose against Texas Tech, and you got

599
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: that unwritten rule where you can't drop someone out of

600
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: the bubble for losing the conference title game, and you're

601
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: just gonna have You're gonna have Oklahoma knocking on the door.

602
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna have organ or usc maybe knocking on the door.

603
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: You can have Miami knocking on the door. So there's

604
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: that constant back and forth of we just want the

605
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: best TV product for the playoff versus no, we want fair,

606
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: maybe even somewhat equitable rules for the playoff. And I'm

607
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: always torn because I could make either argument. I could

608
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: debate myself on a stage because I can make both

609
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: sets of points so seamlessly. But I think we're very

610
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: much in a transition period on that front right now,

611
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: of we're in an era right now where yeah, we're

612
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna have a G five team that's a three touchdown

613
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: dog in the first round and we're all just supposed

614
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: to pretend one hundred and thirty six teams are playing

615
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: the same sport. Therefore, we have to have representation, and

616
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: everyone knows it's not real, but we're kind of winking

617
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: and nodding. You know, we got to be fair. I

618
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: wonder how long that lasts.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say of all the teams that joined

620
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: the conferences, so Oregon, UCLA, Washington, sc Texas, Oklahoma, you

621
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: could not have convinced me that Oklahoma. I thought Oregon

622
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: would do well. My take was they playing crappy weather already.

623
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Speaker 2: They'll be fine, and they're gonna be able to buy

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: the player. Oregon's gonna be fine. Uscu CLA warmed cold

625
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: weather and it's a little finesse. Washington, I knew you

626
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: didn't have a ton of nil money. I thought Texas

627
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: would be fine. And if you really look at Texas

628
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: since they joined the SEC, take out the Georgia games.

629
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Speaker 2: They're doing just great. It's just Georgia. I am shocked

630
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Speaker 2: at how good Oklahoma's doing. One I didn't know if

631
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Vnables was a head coach. Two, the state doesn't produce

632
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: a lot of players. Three Lincoln Riley left. It's become

633
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: an offensive sport. I look up at Oklahoma and I'm like,

634
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: I've watched them play Bama back to back years. They've

635
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: disassembled them. I'm sorry, Alabama's just mistake prone. Of all

636
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: the teams that join conferences, my bad, Oklahoma looks and

637
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: plays Josh like an SEC team if you didn't know

638
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: where they play. Texas still feels pretty, Texas still doesn't

639
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: like to get punched in the mouth. Oklahoma to me

640
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: feels like LSU. Georgia feels like an SEC team. Like

641
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: if you didn't know, you'd think they've been there for

642
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I think where their position benefits them. A lot of

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Speaker 1: been a hindrance to them because they would have been

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Speaker 1: cut off from a lot of the talent. The world

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Speaker 1: involve private aviation for family to come watch and play,

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Speaker 1: get talent out there. The one thing they had to

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Speaker 1: do is they had to nail the coaching higher. And yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even ready to say that Brenton Vnables is

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Speaker 1: can't say that about every team out there. So in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: two things happen. Okay, the SEC brought him in at

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Speaker 1: his style of ball was not gonna fit nearly as

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Speaker 1: well as the style they're playing right now. Look, they've

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Speaker 1: be making more noise than they currently are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just I missed on Oklahoma. They when

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Speaker 2: I watched Oklahoma SEC games. That's just an old school

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Speaker 2: increasingly always have a Sunday quarterback or he looks like

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a Sunday athlete. Josh, you're selling me

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Speaker 2: on this. Your your latest quick trip experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you travel when you do it,

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