1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: She refused to believe my service dog was real, so 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: I got her frickingy fired. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: Yeah right, that dog supposed to save your life. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that dog with its little cute vest dog 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: that's not real. 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all those papers you have from your doctor and 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: you know clearly clearly falls afied. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: For sure. I mean I could teach my dog to 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: sit and shake and roll the service dog. Dog, dog, 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: go fetch do me this service I go fetch over here? 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Is that a service dog? No? I work for a 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: smallish company around eighty people, and I have epilepsy, and 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I have a seizure alert dog. This is just like Okay, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: I was I was asking. I was about to ask 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: a question, but that it already has the answer. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: There we go. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, she can detect when I am about to have 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: a seizure, which helps me get somewhere safe. She's alerted 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: when I'm on the stairs, so I not to sit 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: down immediately, or if I'm walking along a busy road, 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I can move off to the side, which is so amazing. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: I mean, like, that's wow, that's wild. That dogs. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: Now you're sounding like the woman. Well, I'm sure, but 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: you know how like dogs. 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: I know it's crazy, Like how does that even work? 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I have no I have no idea, Like, like you 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: know how dogs in like sense like if an earthquake 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: is coming right a couple of minutes before humans do, 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Like I guess like this is like a like a 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: human quake. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: So basically sounds like it's it's that but for epilepsy, 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: which is it's wild dude. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: That's like I wow, dogs are crazy. Dogs. 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: Dogs dogs are the real ones, all right. 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: All right, so like I know we're gonna go into 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: this whole whole story. This person is like obviously like 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the the company is kind of like a dick, but 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: like it's crazy that dogs could do that. Like that 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: baffles me. Why Like the person who has epilepsy, yeah, 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: cannot even tell that they're going to get an epileptic attack, 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: but the dog can tell before they can tell. 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: It's it's absolutely nuts. That's bonkers and. 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: Like hot, Like what what within a dog makes it 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: so it can sense that? Like how how is it 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: even possible? I have no idea, Like I ain't that dog, 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: And we're never going to find out because we're not. 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Going to google it, We're not going too we're not 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: going to check our facts. Maybe we'll Maybe we'll google 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: later in the story. Maybe we will, maybe we'll see 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: maybe won't, maybe won't. We'll keep you on your toes Yo. 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: She's very good at what she does. Usually I get 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: a two or three minute warning and can ask for 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: help or preemptively call someone like my husband. 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: Two or three minutes. 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm amazed. 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: I have to imagine so helpful, like okay, now I 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: can call someone, get to a safe place. 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: Like exactly amazing. 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: Should also find a person and direct them to my 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: medical alert bracelet if I'm unable to tell someone what 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: is happening ahead of time. This dog is fucking smartest 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: frick bro I love this dog. Here's the problem. She's 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: a smaller dog. She's a twenty pound mutt, so she 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: doesn't provide mobility assistance of any kind. She also doesn't 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: wear a full harness like a seeing eye dog would. 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: She walks on a standard collar and leash, though she 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: does have a fabric vest that says service dog in 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: large letters, so if someone does see her when she's 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: looking for assistance, it's pretty obvious that they should follow her. Recently, 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: we hired a new VP of HR. This person says, 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: they do not believe that my dog is a real 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: dog and it's not an emotional support animal. It's just 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: a pet I want to bring to work. Just they 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: say she's too small and she doesn't wear real medical 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: equipment of dog. 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: Leftethoscope there, I'm sorry, my little twenty pound dog doesn't 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: have her defibulator. 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: What are you expecting? Like, what do you expect service? 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: What a lab coat on a fucking dog? 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: Bro? 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: What's that show that? It's like like paw Patrol? Oh yeah, dude, 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: it's like they're expecting paw patrol. 83 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Like I was watching paw Patrol and the dogs that 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: are firefighters had the firefighter hat. 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, where's your dog's firefighter hat? Huh? I paid literal 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars for this dog and her training. 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: She has saved my life with her alerts on more 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: than one occasion. She's also giving me back my freedom 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: I didn't have before because I was unable to go 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: anywhere alone. The VP of HR has had no complaints 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: about her behavior. She walks calmly beside me or rests 92 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: under my desk during the day. She doesn't bark, and 93 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: only and the only time I take her out for 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: a bathroom break is when I'm out on lunch. Nobody 95 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: in the office has said anything I know of, so 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: there's like literally no problems. 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Literally no one's complaining about this dog. But VP mean no, 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: you must get rid of this dog. 99 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: VP's a cat person. 100 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: There we go, Now we figured it out. 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: The person simply says they've never heard of a dog 102 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: that does this type of work. Oh are you suddenly 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: the dog expert? 104 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: You know, I've never heard of it before, so how 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: can it be true? 106 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Say? Why do you freaking google it? Dude? Like a 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: simple Google will return this probably we haven't done the reseeks. 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: We haven't done it, but you should do it. 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and since she hasn't seen it, I've never 110 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: seen a small service dog do this kind of work before. 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I must be lying. I provided paperwork from the training 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: organization and my medical team, and they say you can 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: print papers like that. And then they said you can 114 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: print papers like that off the internet. I mean, how 115 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: much more proof do you want? Just it's just unfaboous. 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: She literally has the documents from her medical team, she 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: got the receipts, and the receipts still ain't outing up 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: for them somehow. I went to the CEO, the VP 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of HR's boss because if I don't have because if 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't have my dog, I can't go to work. 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: And they said this was out of their area of expertise. 122 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: But couldn't I just get a bigger dog? What makes 123 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: you want to get a bigger dog? Like that's like 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: completely illogical, completely like, oh, I'm sorry, your hands are 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: tied on this one. 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: It's like, bruh, her life is tied. She can't get 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: dog in here. 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: And then OP is like, I guess maybe they want that, 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: so it's obvious they are a working dog. I'm not 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: really sure what to do from here other than this 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: particular incident. I love my job and I'd like to 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: keep working here. What should I do? But there is 133 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: an update and it's mostly positive. My meeting with the 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: My meeting with the employment My meeting with the employment 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: lawyer went well. Like everyone agreed this was a fairly 136 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: cut and dry thing where my dog absolutely should be allowed. 137 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: We started by going to the friendly route. My lawyer 138 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: provided the language for me to attempt to address this 139 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: myself in a more official way That went predictably nowhere. 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: The VP of HR doubled down in our stands that 141 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I need to have a real service dog or I 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: could come to the office without my dog. This is 143 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a freaking real service dog. As an aside, I do 144 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: work from home most of the time, and there's no 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: formal requirement that any of us go in the office. 146 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Even before COVID, I supported our national sales team and 147 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: most of us were remote for a significant portion of 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: our jobs. That being said, I do like to go 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: in every once in a while. It's less of an 150 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: issue with the pandemic since we've halted almost all in 151 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: person activities, But once we finally get things under control 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: for real, we do have team outings that I'd like 153 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: to attend. Plus it's nice to get actual face to 154 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: FaceTime with my boss. Anyway, I let my direct supervisor 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: know that HR was continuing to push back on this, 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: and she my boss, attempted to plead my case, thinking 157 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: if it came from a director level employee, maybe it 158 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: would hold more weight. What do you think happened, John. 159 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: I think the boss was like, Hey, you know what, 160 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: we're tripling down. We're suing you for causing a disturbance 161 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: in the workplace. 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Freaking close, and HR shut that down as well, since 163 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: sales directors don't understand the ADA rules like HR does. 164 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: My boss then told me if I didn't already have 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: plans to take a more aggressive approach to my lawyer, 166 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: she would be doing it on my behalf. Because this 167 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Shout out to the boss, Dude like her 168 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: boss sounds awesome, Yeah, vying for her. My lawyer sent 169 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: a late My lawyer sent a letter to my boss, 170 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: HR and the CEO asking for a response in forty 171 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: eight hours before they pushed further. Nobody responded. God, my 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: boss deliberately did not respond. HR and the CEO ignored it, 173 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: didn't notice it. The world will never know, but then 174 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: pushed the letter to the company's board and things then 175 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: happened very quickly from there. Although I'm unfortunately out of 176 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: the loop with the details, what I do know is 177 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: a CEO claimed he misunderstood what I was saying when 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: I asked him, and of course he supported me and 179 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: my dog coming into the office. It wasn't a misunderstanding. 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: It was definitely incompetence. But that's fine. I'm not going 181 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: to fight that battle, and HR quietly underwent restructuring. Our 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: VP left for other opportunities last week with no other comments. 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: We're pretty sure she was just pushed out. Although we 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: are a smaller company, we do hold a sizeable government 185 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: contract and an eighty A lawsuit would go against the 186 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: main service we provide, which is like death because of death. 187 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: That is literally so tragically hilarious. 188 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: Literally their service, the giant contract is in jeopardy because 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: of their own idiocracy of dealing with this. 190 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: I know, like you would think they would know what 191 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: they're doing, but none, Nope, no, no way know. How 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: do they know what we know? The rules? 193 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: It's okay, you're stupid. 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Our board was very interested in making sure we didn't 195 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: do anything to jeopardize that contract. I do wish the 196 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: board and CEO had taken a firmer stance and admitted 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to the error while publicly committing to make sure that 198 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: any and all employees felt welcome, But they did reach 199 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: out and apologize to me personally, so I'll let that 200 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: go too. All in all, terrible HR is gone. My 201 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: boss was supportive as she could be and went to 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: bat for me every single time, and once the office 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: is fully open to my dog, I will be able 204 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to go into the office as needed. Josie, the dog 205 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: in question received lots of pets and loving at the 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: request of the commenters, and continues to be a very 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: good girl. 208 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Whoever this VP is, you suck. 209 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: Get a VP of HR. You are the worst. 210 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: I hope you will never get another job. 211 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Or a dog or a dog. Yeah, you don't deserve it. 212 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: You deserve You do not deserve a dog. You're the 213 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: least deserving a dog of anyone in history. 214 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: That's it, done, done, Donzell, your career is over.