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Speaker 1: You were two weeks about drive on your twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation, How are we doing well? That's

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Speaker 2: good us too? Our number two here on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: Can I just tell you guys, every week when I

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Speaker 2: say that our number two on a Friday, it's like

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Speaker 2: a smile in my face. Yeah, can't. I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like Jack, I'm like Heath Ledger, like,

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Speaker 2: let's put a smile on that face with the choker.

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Speaker 2: I just can't stop grinning when I say our number

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Speaker 2: two on a Friday.

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Speaker 3: Let's get chili this weekend or chillier.

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Speaker 2: I will say, how about that big bright ball like

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Speaker 2: yellow looking thing that was up in the sky that yeah,

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Speaker 2: ye yeah, it's a nice development.

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Speaker 3: Snow melted on my driveway without me huh chiseling away

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Speaker 3: at it.

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Speaker 2: I felt, I feel so bad somehow We've still been

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Speaker 2: getting mail every day and I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: How today's first day I got mail a week.

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Speaker 2: My street looks like a bob sled course, like there's

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Speaker 2: like four or five.

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Speaker 3: And I felt for the dude I'd like gotten to

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Speaker 3: know my mailman and I was taking the garbage out

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Speaker 3: as he was delivering like this much stuff and putting

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Speaker 3: into my garage and they didn't fit in my mailbox.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, so you must have the worst days, Like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's horrendous.

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Speaker 2: My wife I was like, we should like I was like,

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Speaker 2: we should put like a little like a note, like

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Speaker 2: a thank you, and maybe like a fifteen dollars dunkin

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Speaker 2: gift card or something right in there. And my wife

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Speaker 2: was like, I gave him a gift card at Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I know, baby, this has to suck.

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Speaker 4: This.

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Speaker 3: I'm terrible, right. He gave me like close to the

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Speaker 3: mailbox and there's so much I mean, it was a

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Speaker 3: whole week's worth. There's no way it's fitting in that mailbox.

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Speaker 2: No chance.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, and it's funny because I was about

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Speaker 3: to start a podcast, like it's five minutes to noon

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Speaker 3: and noon I was doing a podcast whatever, Like I

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Speaker 3: should have fight him in for a cup of cocoa

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Speaker 3: or something. Poor guy.

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Speaker 2: It's like when the carrollers come around the neighborhood, You're like,

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Speaker 2: can I get you some more? Do you eat coffee?

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Speaker 2: Do you need hot coco? Matt The Steelers need wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: That's one thing that we know for sure. So let's

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Speaker 2: continue that conversation that we started at the back half

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Speaker 2: of the first hour. If you might have missed it,

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Speaker 2: you can you can go get that wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcasts on YouTube as well, and just some other

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Speaker 2: free agency conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson is an intriguing one to me, is a

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Speaker 3: Now you'll hear this come up a lot in the

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Speaker 3: off season, and it doesn't mean it's a no blano

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Speaker 3: on these types, but they're true slot Welker Edelman, Wandell

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Speaker 3: Robinson type guys have been less and less useful and

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Speaker 3: less and less successful in today's modern NFL. And the

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Speaker 3: biggest problem is they don't block anybody. You know, if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be that close to the line of scrimmage, Yes,

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Speaker 3: and teams can live in dime and nickel and you

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Speaker 3: don't make them pay for it with physicality. It's not

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Speaker 3: that he can't get open, and he's been like the

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Speaker 3: ultimate slot machine because his average depth of target is

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Speaker 3: super low. Get it out quick. But he had a

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Speaker 3: really good year. The problem with signing him first off

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Speaker 3: I don't want any more little guys. I mean, so

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Speaker 3: that's strike number one. Sure, But the fact that free

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Speaker 3: agencies before the draft, if you get a Dabbs, you

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Speaker 3: could go any direction in the draft at the next receiver. Okay,

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Speaker 3: this guy is a little smaller, but he can fly.

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Speaker 3: Oh he looks like George Pickens. Great, you know, but

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Speaker 3: if you get Robinson, now there's thirty percent of what

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at. I'm not interested anymore, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then you're I don't know if pigeonholing yourself is

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Speaker 2: the right term, because that might be a little too extreme.

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Speaker 3: But you're just you're taking I don't want to limit

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Speaker 2: You're limiting it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, right before the draft even shows up.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to put it. Let's

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Speaker 2: see any other wide receivers that we haven't mentioned. Christian

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Speaker 2: Kerr the.

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Speaker 3: Right price, but he's a Samuel not what he used

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Speaker 2: The guys are all thirty now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what like those kind of guys I'd have

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Speaker 3: and they're still sitting around there ten days after free

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Speaker 3: agency opened that Tuesday. You're gonna sign a one year deal,

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Speaker 3: show up here in camp and see what you got left,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna draft on the first round. Maye. You

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Speaker 2: How about someone like someone from one of these teams

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Speaker 2: that is pretty loaded on wide receiver and might be

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Speaker 2: a Diamie Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fours, yeah, you know, like the and the

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Speaker 3: something on special teams. Oh absolutely, and they don't really.

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Speaker 3: At Well's too small for my liking to Brown's fine,

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Speaker 3: he just signed a one year deal for ten million

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Speaker 3: and wasn't worth it. You know again, these are late

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Speaker 3: in the process, dudes. Yeah, the deal has to be right.

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Speaker 3: One year deal, get you through the year type guys. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: And some of them might even be after the draft

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Speaker 3: if you don't get the guy you like move, you know, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that we know there's always those second, third,

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Speaker 3: Now with the cap going up, more and more free

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Speaker 3: And even if you look at like pickings at the top.

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Speaker 3: He'sn't even hit free agency, you know, I mean, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, I mean, he's very small chance he's going to

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Speaker 3: Like if if anyone pulls up a top fifty list

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Speaker 3: going to hit the market. Now there will be cap

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Speaker 3: casualties though, I mean, so that's kind of interesting too,

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Speaker 2: Or as we've talked about guys that could be on

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Speaker 2: the trading block, the aj Browns of the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Thomas, juniors.

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Speaker 3: Of the world. That's like very interesting, right.

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Speaker 2: And then that becomes obviously a new conversation.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'll bring this up a bunch before

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Speaker 3: free agency. But the cap casualties don't hurt your comp

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Speaker 2: That's the best part. That's wonderful, right, That's that's if

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Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers last year, you know, when they get

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Speaker 3: Right, So free agency is a tougher way to live

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Speaker 3: because these guys have so much cap space that they

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Speaker 3: can keep their own. But I wanted to double check this.

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Speaker 3: The most free agency money spent last offseason was one

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Speaker 3: the Patriots, Remember they went a total spending spree.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Milton Williams, Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Bunch of Diggs Moses starters. And the Seahawks were four

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Speaker 3: interesting Arnold, I mean one of it's a quarterback still,

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Speaker 3: but still, you know, I mean Lawrence the defensive end.

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Speaker 3: So there's more way. There's always skin a cat. It's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, the two Super Bowl teams were in the

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Speaker 3: top four in free agent spending last year.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, yeah, let's go spend some money.

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Speaker 2: Here's just some quick numbers that spot track is predicting

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Speaker 2: for some of those guys. We talked about Juwan Jennings

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Speaker 2: around twenty two and a half million per year. Alec

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Speaker 2: Pierce little over twenty million per year.

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Speaker 3: You're just going to get more than Jennings.

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Speaker 2: I think. I think so.

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Speaker 3: He's younger too, he's more dynamic, he's a better player.

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Speaker 2: And he's like three years younger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson a little under eighteen million per year. Rashid

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Speaker 2: Shaheed fourteen million per year.

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Speaker 3: I bet that's higher than that.

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Speaker 2: I would think that number will be a little bit higher,

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Speaker 2: especially him coming off a Super Bowl appearance. Yeah, Deebo,

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Speaker 2: Samuel thirteen, Romeo Dobbs twelve.

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Speaker 3: If you get Dobbs for twelve, if I doing a hard.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that seem I would.

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Speaker 3: Say fifteen ish for him. Seems reasonable.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen ish, And that's quite often. Listen, this is what

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Speaker 3: The market value is Yeah, yeah, two teams start competing.

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Speaker 2: We know how this works. Yeah, if a house's market

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Speaker 2: value is five hundred thousand dollars, but you've got six

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Speaker 2: people who want it, might for five sixty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these seem these seem low. People are probably getting

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Speaker 2: I think people are getting People are getting a little

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Speaker 2: excited about that, certainly. But that's kind of a primer.

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Speaker 2: Just again, that's just free agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with trades or potential cut candidates

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Speaker 3: He's not well, he's not gonna be a Steeler and

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Speaker 2: Gonna not gonna make it that far. Matt, you want

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Speaker 2: to spend a few minutes on free agency at large.

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Speaker 2: A few names that I sure want to run by you.

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Speaker 2: What happens to I know we mentioned him yesterday when

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Speaker 2: we were doing our AFC North kind of off season

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Speaker 2: outlook what happens with Trey Drickson.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals are such a weird organization that they hate

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Speaker 3: giving letting someone walk out the door for nothing. I

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Speaker 3: wonder if they franchise them, and if they do, he'll

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Speaker 3: lose his mind. So yeah, right, and I understand this frustration.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be a beanngal though inevitably.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be a Lion or a Bill or

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Speaker 3: some one good, you know, two year deal, big money.

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Speaker 2: That's what it sounds. I mean, he's thirty one, so

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Speaker 2: he's not he's not old old, but he's not a

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 2: I mean just a year ago, like this time last year,

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Speaker 2: he was coming off leading the NFL in sacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he he.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs could use him, The Chiefs could use Lions

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Speaker 3: could I bet he's on a good team.

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Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. He might

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Speaker 2: even take a little bit of a discount. I wif him, right,

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Speaker 2: George Pickens, we've talked about, Yeah, Tyler Linderbaum, we mentioned

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Speaker 2: back in Baltimore. Does that depend on how Minter wants

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Speaker 2: to do things. I mean that's a real I could.

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Speaker 3: See him follow Harbor to the Giants. Yeah, there are

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Speaker 3: a couple. There are quite a few Ravens assistants out

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Speaker 3: there in prominent spots. Now, I bet he's not back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I wouldn't be lost, right, wouldn't hate.

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Speaker 3: That because their guards aren't very good either, Interier, the

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Speaker 3: air line would be decimated.

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Speaker 2: U quarterbacks Matt Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: The talent, and he came out of a tiny, tiny universe.

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Speaker 2: He'll be twenty seven next season. Still for a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: He's got a lot ahead of them. Completed over eighty

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Speaker 2: right now, Malik Willis is the Steelers starter. We go

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Speaker 3: I probably go Fish. Yeah, yeah, but Rogers retires, like

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Speaker 2: That you're not going to pay him fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right, Matt, a couple quick hitters for you before we

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they're gonna be a lot

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I bet he hits the open market and makes good money.

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Speaker 2: He's one of those guys I think would could end

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, though, it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: We're just about a month away from free agency really

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, let's sticking with this free agency conversation here.

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Speaker 2: There are two big I mean, listen, the Steelers have

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Speaker 3: I would throw Pierre and or Samuel in there, just

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Speaker 2: Very, very impressed with what with what Pierre did down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's hard to entirely just jump into and

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Speaker 2: What, unless he decides that he wants to sail off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I couldn't. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: But he is a quality starting guard and not many

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Speaker 2: But say all of a sudden, he'd be right jack

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell, he's an interesting one. Gonna be twenty seven

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Speaker 2: by the time. Yeah, next year, Starts made just about

440
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Speaker 2: one point eight million dollars in base salary last year.

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Speaker 3: Go up a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna go up a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Are the Steelers going to be the team to give

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Speaker 2: it to him? Is there gonna be some other team

446
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Speaker 2: that overpays a little bit and he's like, this is

447
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Speaker 2: my chance to cash in.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a good feel for this one.

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Speaker 2: I don't really either, Yeah, because so much of it.

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Speaker 2: I think, listen, there's the Caleb Johnson factor two? Right,

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Speaker 2: does does the new coaches staff think? Does the new

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Speaker 2: coaching staff look at Caleb Johnson and go, not our problem,

453
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Speaker 2: not our guy, see you?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 2: Or do they? But do they look at him and

456
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Speaker 2: they go, Hey, he's just a third round pick a

457
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Speaker 2: year ago? I think there's something there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we know he's're being camped.

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Speaker 2: Rookie season didn't go Rookie season didn't go his way.

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Speaker 2: But that's all right. That happens to plenty of guys

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Speaker 2: who figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Andy draft a fourth round way I in game, well

463
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Speaker 3: is not in the mix? Is that a they've been

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Speaker 3: hes been hesitant over the years to give Warren a

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Speaker 3: massive work? Is that because he can't handle it? Is

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Speaker 3: that because Tomlin and his staff didn't think he could

467
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Speaker 3: handle it? Now, let's all forget the front office is

468
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Speaker 3: still there, so they still have their same opinions on

469
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Speaker 3: all these guys, you know, but that doesn't mean the

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Speaker 3: coaches have will agree he wants to get their hands

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Speaker 3: on them. Game was tough for me. It wouldn't shock

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Speaker 3: me if he's like their top priority they give him

473
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Speaker 3: a two year, fifteen sixteen million over two years type

474
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Speaker 3: of deal. I don't know if he'll hit ten, but

475
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Speaker 3: he is a good receiver and he could help a

476
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Speaker 3: lot of teams. He doesn't have a ton of wear

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Speaker 3: and tear on his tires, offen tires. They have cap space.

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Speaker 3: But running backs aren't that hard to find. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: can get I guess I want on it like to

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Speaker 3: no end.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the debate with running Yeah, unless you've

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Speaker 2: got the Sayquan or the Bejon Robinson where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're not letting this guy go anywhere. It's always a

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Speaker 2: tricky question.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times, how this plays out, and

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Speaker 3: if I were to put a chip down of how

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Speaker 3: it plays out, is we like you, you like us,

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Speaker 3: test the market and get back to us, you know,

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Speaker 3: And he might go three or four days in free

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Speaker 3: agency and gets a call here and there, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't go the way and you know, you're not as

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Speaker 3: desirable as skill set that's hard to find that everyone's after.

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Speaker 3: And you'll say, how about sixteen million over two years

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Speaker 3: and we're all happy. They give him a sixty percent

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Speaker 3: chance of returning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a little over half m hmm, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think listen, there's always teams

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Speaker 2: with cap space. Yeah, and there's always teams that are

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Speaker 2: willing to overspend a little bit. That's just that's the

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Speaker 2: reality of the situation. But if that team doesn't come

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Speaker 2: knocking and make him a make him a godfather, make

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Speaker 2: him an offer he can't refuse, I think I think

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Speaker 2: there could be a real interest in both parties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And being a Pittsburgh he was certainly a

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Speaker 3: very pleasant surprise and I'd like to have him back.

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Speaker 3: But the world will keep turning too. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: not the most irreplaceable guy out there there, and he

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Speaker 3: and his agent know that.

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Speaker 2: Last one for you here, Matt, before we go to break,

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Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on Calvin Austin and how that relates

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Speaker 2: to the wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I would not be super excited about it because of

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Speaker 3: the size. He would have to be well into free

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Speaker 3: agency without getting a lot of attention. And I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's a bad player. I just want a different

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Speaker 3: style receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want some bigger bodies body populating that blocking

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Speaker 2: on the edge.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean if he was my fourth or

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Speaker 3: my third, but he definitely not two. But if he's

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Speaker 3: I definitely pretty set with my top two to be

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Speaker 3: real comfortable to pay him as a three more of

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Speaker 3: a four. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last one was we talked about this yesterday. Cole Holcomb

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Speaker 2: is actually a free agent. He does not have one

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Speaker 2: more year, so he'd be an interesting one for me

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Speaker 2: too if the price was right.

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Speaker 3: I don't you probably get him with what he's making

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Speaker 3: now what that was, he didn't add much on tape

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Speaker 3: to increase his values.

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Speaker 2: And three millilliam bucks you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean certainly if you decide to cut Queen,

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Speaker 3: then I definitely then I definitely am and would probably

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Speaker 3: like to use a reasonably high pick on one two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the problem cutting Queen because I don't think Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Will be back same.

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Speaker 3: Holcome's a real nice three.

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Speaker 2: I think Holcomb's a nice three and Peyton Wilson's a

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Speaker 2: nice two. Yeah, you just got to kind of figure

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Speaker 2: out if you're keeping Queen, what's going on there, because

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Speaker 2: I like Wilson and Hulk them in their current roles. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want to have them punching up a

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Speaker 2: weight class all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: And if Okam probably get a one year.

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Speaker 2: Deal, yeah yeah, Yeah, he's twenty nine now, will be

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Speaker 2: thirty during the season next year.

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Speaker 3: So I don't have a problem with them.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like, as you've mentioned, that's one of those

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Speaker 2: positions where there's more of a demand than there is

550
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Speaker 2: a supply in the NFL. Just competent off ball linebackers

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Speaker 2: who could get everybody set up in the right position,

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Speaker 2: don't get picked on, can diagnose an offense, can get

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Speaker 2: the call in, can get their guys lined up.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's still that I do too, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely do, and he would be even another year

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Speaker 2: removed from that that massive leg injury. Like you know,

557
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Speaker 2: maybe he's even feeling a little bit more comfortable heading

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Speaker 2: into this season.

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Speaker 3: I think you said, what's he making now? Like two million?

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Speaker 2: His base salary was two million plus he had like

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Speaker 2: a one point six signing.

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Speaker 3: Bonus on a two year deal or something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wish you had one more year on his deal

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Speaker 3: at that price and you'd have to like give a

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Speaker 3: bonus or whatever, and you can just kind of the

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Speaker 3: bird in the hand.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, that would be an idea of Yeah, yeah, both.

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Speaker 2: That would be great if that was the case.

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Speaker 3: But all in all of the Steeler free agents aren't

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Speaker 3: real menacing in terms of what you're gonna lose. No,

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Speaker 3: like you said, he set up pretty well all those guys.

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Speaker 2: And even if you throw Aaron Rodgers into the conversation, Yeah,

573
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Speaker 2: the world will keep spinning if they It'll be answers

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Speaker 2: if they return or if they don't. The bigger questions

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Speaker 2: are what do you do with the herbigs, What do

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Speaker 2: you do with the Joey Porter juniors? What do you

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Speaker 2: do with those guys that are coming down the line

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Speaker 2: for how much extensions? How much do they want? How

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Speaker 2: much you have to give them right now, how does

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Speaker 2: that work within the structure of an already highly paid

581
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Speaker 2: defense and how Mike McCarthy is obviously going to want

582
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Speaker 2: to have an overhaul of some significant pieces on the offense.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of balance here. But it is still

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Speaker 2: late January, and that picture will get more clear and

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Speaker 2: clear as we roll along. Matt, let's take our last

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Speaker 2: break of the day. When we returned Mike McCarthy on

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Speaker 2: the DV Morning Show. We'll get some tweets as well

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Speaker 2: to close this thing down. Well, Shooler, Matt Williamson, It

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Speaker 2: is the Drive on a Friday, Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Print final segment here on a Friday. What are we

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Speaker 2: gonna do this weekend though? Without any football? Matt?

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Speaker 3: I mean I do. I will watch Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. But yeah, you know what, remember yesterday when

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Speaker 2: we were like, I don't even know when the Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl is? Is it this week.

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Speaker 3: Think it is this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Tuesday?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, was wrong again.

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Speaker 2: TV is looking at us like we're crazy. I'm almost

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Speaker 2: positive it's Tuesday. Let me let me, let me, let

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Speaker 2: me double double check this. Yeah, let's see, it is Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It's weird Tuesday, February third.

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Speaker 3: Is the less competition.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe on a Tuesday you'll get

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Speaker 2: more people to watch than if it were on weekend.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, weird one for the Pro Bowl Senior Bowl

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Speaker 2: this weekend. You know, Matt, maybe that we're thinking this

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Speaker 2: out loud now, maybe there's something they could do to

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Speaker 2: come combine the Senior Bowl and the Pro Bowl. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what what that answer would be, have

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Speaker 2: those Pro Bowl guys involved. I don't know, but that

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Speaker 2: that sounds like a pie in the sky idea now

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Speaker 2: that I'm saying it out loud. But man, Tuesday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. Here we go a long way from the

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Speaker 2: Honolulu days.

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Speaker 3: Pick it Tuesday, break it down.

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Speaker 2: It's the early line. NFC favorite Joe Flacco just got

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Speaker 2: named as an AFC quarterback too, by the way, Yes,

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Speaker 2: his first ever Pro Bowl, which surprised me. But I

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Speaker 2: guess when you considered he played in an a f

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Speaker 2: C with Brady and Manning and Roethlisberg and River, I mean, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess this year.

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Speaker 2: That would have been hilarious. That would almost that would

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Speaker 2: have been fantastic And that's actually I think a way

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Speaker 2: that you would have gotten more people to watch. But

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Speaker 2: Matt Mike McCarthy of course, has been the topic. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say the topic d jore the topic

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Speaker 2: of the day, but he's been the topic of the week, rightfully,

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Speaker 2: so was was you know, the hiring was announced over

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Speaker 2: the weekend and then became officially official on Tuesday with

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Speaker 2: the press conference.

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Speaker 3: It's been a it's been a week known, yes.

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Speaker 2: And Mike McCarthy joining the DVE Morning Show this morning

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Speaker 2: of course with our guy Mike Persuda, Randy Bauman as well,

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Speaker 2: you all know the gambit of the DVE Morning Show

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Speaker 2: on your flagship home of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and just

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Speaker 2: a fun conversation because they do obviously get into some

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Speaker 2: x's and o's and what do you think about quarter

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Speaker 2: football stuff and quarterbacks and what are you gonna do

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Speaker 2: with your coordinators? What are you gonna do with the defense?

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Speaker 2: But they also have some fun, you know, some fun,

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Speaker 2: some fun yinzer conversation. Yeah, growing up in Greenfield and

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Speaker 2: talking about you know, the famous bar that his family

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Speaker 2: owned that he used to clean on Sunday morning before church.

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Speaker 2: So good stuff. Here to close us down for today,

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Speaker 2: it's Mike McCarthy on the DVE Morning Show This morning.

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Speaker 5: Randy Bauman and the DVE Morning Show on your radio

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Speaker 5: home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one or two point five

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Speaker 5: DVE joining us right now, the new head coach of

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers, something that has only been said three

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Speaker 5: times since nineteen sixty nine, Greenfields Own Mike McCarthy, Ladies

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Speaker 5: and jentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Couch, good morning, Hey, good morning. I can't tell you

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Speaker 4: what an honor this is to be.

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Speaker 3: On w DV. My goodness.

660
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Speaker 5: I mean, you of anybody would appreciate that. You know,

661
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: I remember Jim tom Sulla saying, Hey, I'm a DV guy,

662
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: and this has always been This is one.

663
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Speaker 2: Of the things that that I struck me.

664
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Speaker 5: When you were hired as the head coaches, your family

665
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: must have been so excited to not have to buy

666
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: new team gear. Like if you said I'm the new

667
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: coach of the Raiders, they'd be like, oh Jesus, we

668
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: got to go buy this.

669
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: They already they're already festooned with black and gold.

670
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh.

671
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they've been wearing it under their you know, the

672
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: other team's gear for for for decades. So it's good

673
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: that we can opening we're our Steeler gear Nolso No,

674
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: it's it's been awesome. It's been an incredible week.

675
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Speaker 3: Mike. More good news for you.

676
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 6: We haven't changed our playlist since you were pit.

677
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Maybe well I thought I was going on with Yeah.

678
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I thought it was with paulset. They threw me before

679
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: a loop Brandy and Mike, I'm.

680
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Speaker 5: Like, uh, well, you know, in speaking of your family,

681
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 5: your introductory press conference, right, the emotions of that moment

682
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: were felt across Steeler Nation. And when you said Pittsburgh

683
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: is my world, I mean that just got everybody right

684
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: in the gut. And I was thinking it must have

685
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 5: been so fun might not be the right word, but

686
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: gratifying for you when you got to tell your family

687
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 5: before the rest of the world knew. What was it

688
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: like telling your immediate family I'm going to be the.

689
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: New head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

690
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: Oh, it's emotional, I mean to say, at least, and uh,

691
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: you know, and I think clearly you know the press

692
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: conference was was was really you know, it's tough if

693
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: you ever do a press conference in that moment, you

694
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: don't want your you don't want your parents sitting right

695
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: in front of you, you're four feet away, because that

696
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: just I mean, it was hard as I walked on

697
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: the stage. But no, it's I mean, it's it means

698
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: the world to you know, really all of us, because

699
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: you know, they've they've been with me, you know, every

700
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: stepping away throughout my career. And to be able to

701
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: come up back home and and uh, you know, be

702
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean it's

703
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean, this is what you dream about as a kid.

704
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: And you know from the day you know, I got

705
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: into coaching today that I was able to you know,

706
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: be an NFL coach, I mean, it was, I mean,

707
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: this is a pinnacle for us.

708
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: Well.

709
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Speaker 5: Chefter reported at one point, this was the only job

710
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: you were interested in pursuing as a head coach.

711
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: Is that true? Well, once, yeah, once it became available.

712
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, I think you know that the timing of

713
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: it was a little a little later than you know,

714
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: the first two opportunities that I interviewed for. But yeah, definitely,

715
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: I mean it's, uh, like I said, there's there's nothing

716
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: that compares. You know, we we're from Pittsburgh. I mean

717
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: we're like the people from outside of WESN, Pennsylvania. They

718
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: think we're all worked back here. We just think we're normal. So,

719
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean this is so it's just great to come home.

720
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Speaker 5: How much have NFL offense has changed since you first started,

721
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: and how do you think you've evolved with those changes

722
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 5: as an offensive architect.

723
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: I think football, I mean it's I think you have

724
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: to simplify it and I look at it the same.

725
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 4: You know, you have you have two back offense. You know,

726
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: you have one back offense, and you have you know,

727
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: no back offense. And I think just like anything in

728
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: this game, you know you have role changes that may

729
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: affect you know, what schemes are heightened more, you know,

730
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: from year to year. And you know, as as you know,

731
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: I got into the NFL in the nineties, if it's

732
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: primarily two backs, and you know, then as it evolved

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: to one back and two tight ends or one back

734
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: and you know three three receivers, and so you know,

735
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: it's always evolved. You're seeing two back offense come back

736
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: coming back more and more the last couple of years.

737
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 4: So I think it's important to understand what the trends are.

738
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of the day, it's

739
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: about having a system that highlights your players. And that's

740
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: what I've always appreciated with the the West Coast offense.

741
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: It's it's a system of great flexibility and it gives

742
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: you the opportunity to highlight your players.

743
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 6: Mike, I wanted to congratulate you on accomplishing what you

744
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 6: have in life despite spending so much time with de

745
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 6: Rizzo growing.

746
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Speaker 3: Up, a lot of people escape that influence.

747
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: But I also wanted to ask you about something you

748
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 6: said at the press conference. You mentioned defense wins championships,

749
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 6: and you said you've had one top five defense in

750
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: your career and that was the Packers team that beat

751
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: the Steelers into Super Bowl. Why didn't you have more

752
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: top five defenses? And is that something that you can

753
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 6: facilitate here in Pittsburgh.

754
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: Definitely.

755
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: I mean it's not a you know, it's not a

756
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: negative reflection on the other teams. You know, that was

757
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: really the point in the common I just it was

758
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: it's just really how you know your season goes. And

759
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: because we've always tried to highlight defense, and but you know,

760
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: when you play offense at a very high level. You know,

761
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: that's that's an added stress to your defense too. You

762
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: learned that as a head coach. You know, I think

763
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: like all of us as offensive coaches, you know, starting

764
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: with quarterback, you know, quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator, you're

765
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: trying to score as many points as possible, you know,

766
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: play with your hair on fire. But you know, as

767
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: you learn in the league, especially as a head coach,

768
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: the component of compromentary football, you know, put you in

769
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: position to win, to win more games, and especially the

770
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: games that count the most, and those are the playoff

771
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: games because you know every year, I mean you look

772
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: at it, there's only been one victory in playoff football

773
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: this year. That's that was you know, was significant. That

774
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: every one of these games comes down to the last series.

775
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: I mean, the momentum changes in the fourth quarter have

776
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: been at a historic rate, so that that that's the.

777
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: Reality of it.

778
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: So if you're going to play that way in January

779
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: and February to win the Super Bowl, will you probably

780
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: have to train your team starting that way. You know,

781
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: when you hit La Trobe, you know in July, do.

782
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: You have an appreciation you're talking about the ones the

783
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: games that are important to win, being the playoff games?

784
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: Do you have an appreciation for that as an imperative

785
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: here in Pittsburgh?

786
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's you know, you grow up here, you know,

787
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: you don't leave until college. And and I can remember

788
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: when you meet people they said, boy, it snows all

789
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: the time with Pittsburgh, and You're like, what you're talking about?

790
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's four.

791
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: Seasons because all I knew was the Steelers won in

792
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: the playoff games snow, and and I think it's always

793
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: resonated with me of you know, how you you know

794
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: how you need to play and how you need to

795
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: train your team, and and it's different.

796
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: Trust me.

797
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: I coached the team in Green Bay, you know that

798
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: played outdoors, and I coached the team in Dallas that

799
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: plays in indoors. And you know it's uh, you know,

800
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: it's your training about environment, your your home field environment

801
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: is part of who you are. And and I think

802
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: you know this, this this team, this town has always

803
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: been built for.

804
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: Championship football, all right to that end, coach, don't you

805
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 5: think it would be a crime if the NFL moved

806
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: the conference championship games to a neutral site indoors?

807
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I missed that narrative. I've been a

808
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: little busy, So.

809
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the going.

810
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, Florio had it and everyone's been weighing in

811
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: on it, and it seemed like, oh, no, is this

812
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 5: one of those things the league is floating a balloon

813
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: that that's where it's headed because of people thinking that

814
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: that AFC Championship game was adversely affected by the weather.

815
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: To me, that is postseason football.

816
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely in Denver played their asses off all year to

817
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 4: earn that opportunity to play at home.

818
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: Too.

819
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 4: No, obviously they didn't end in their favor, but right,

820
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think they would have wanted to

821
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: played that game anywhere else. I mean for sure, you know,

822
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: obviously no one's shown, So yeah, I'm not a fan

823
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 4: of it, but you know, hey, I spent five years

824
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: with Jerry Jones that I clearly have an understanding. If

825
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: there's a financial component to what's out there, that it's

826
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: probably gonna they're gonna probably take a hard look at it.

827
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: But no, I totally would. I'd be opposed to it.

828
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 4: But hey, coaches don't carry any weight on the big decisions.

829
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 5: How different is it going to be working for Art

830
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: Rooney as compared to Jerry Jones, they don't strike me

831
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 5: as similar.

832
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: Fellas well.

833
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: I've been obviously beyond blessed with, you know, with the

834
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: three opportunities as a head coach, and and all three

835
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 4: of them are you know, diversely different. So and that's

836
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: that's that's the reality of it. You know, artists, you

837
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: know every day right here. You know, Jerry's you know,

838
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: there's there's a little more going on, but yeah, it's.

839
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: A little more going on.

840
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well he's he's uh, I mean, he's he's he's

841
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: a remarkable, remarkable businessman. I mean, I have great respect

842
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 4: for him and his family and what they've accomplished. And

843
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: you know they treated us McCarthy's very well in our

844
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: five years there. So but I'm I'm obviously, you know,

845
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: just thrilled to death will be here and uh to

846
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: be part of the pittsmag E Steelers.

847
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: Mike.

848
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 6: You also talked about the value of running the ball

849
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 6: the other day, and I'm wondering, as a play caller,

850
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: when you're when you have a good quarterback and you're

851
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 6: having successful with a quarterback and you're playing with your

852
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 6: hair on fire and scoring points. Is it a challenge

853
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: to for you to run the ball enough or to

854
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 6: sell running the ball enough to you guys?

855
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: And how much is running the ball enough? You know?

856
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: To me, it's it's it's about touches, you know, because

857
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: you know, I think if you just look at you know,

858
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: just the pure statistical breakdown of you know, run attempts

859
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: for as fast attempts, you know that that that that's

860
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: you know that that combination has been scooed a little

861
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 4: bit with you you know, the RPOs, the run pass options,

862
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: because you know the most important thing about the run

863
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: game is to make sure that run blocking units, you know,

864
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: they got white knuckles and they're coming off the ball

865
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: and they're you know, they're getting after it. And the

866
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: quarterbacks able to throw the ball out there too, you know,

867
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: on a on a pass option and gain seven yards.

868
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you definitely want to take advantage of that

869
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: opportunity where the defensive plays are run. So it's it's

870
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 4: really about you know, those run attempts in the first

871
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: and second done particularly because I think that's important because

872
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: not only running the ball or attempting to run it,

873
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: uh your half of your passing game and normal d

874
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 4: and d comes off of that with the actual pass.

875
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Speaker 5: Go ahead, coach, you're the offensive mastermind. You're gonna be

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Speaker 5: calling the plays. You've already said. So what is it

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Speaker 5: exactly that you're looking for in an offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: Because I always wonder about this.

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Speaker 5: When there's a head coach who has expertise on one

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Speaker 5: side of the ball and they still have the coordinator

881
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Speaker 5: comes in come into, you know, coordinat what does that

882
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Speaker 5: coordination involve if you're the guy the brains behind that

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Speaker 5: side of the team.

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Speaker 4: Well, to be honest with you, when you get into

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Speaker 4: the seventh day week of a regular season, coordinating is

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Speaker 4: the hardest job on the coaching staff. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: he has a tremendous amount of responsibility. Will the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 4: defensive coinator, and then the special teams coordinator. So you

889
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Speaker 4: know the responsibility of that individual is huge as far

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Speaker 4: as how how you you know, progress as an offense.

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Speaker 4: So when I'm putting together a staff, you know, you're

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Speaker 4: you're you're looking at the level experience. You know, you're

893
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Speaker 4: looking for the dynamics of you know, youth and and

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Speaker 4: and experience, And it really comes for me comes down

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Speaker 4: to fit. I'm just trying to fit it all together.

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Speaker 4: I'm still I guess old fashioned, and the fact that

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Speaker 4: you know, we write out every job description right out

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Speaker 4: the job responsibilities and just make sure the staff fits

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Speaker 4: together properly. Because with that the efficiency and the workload

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Speaker 4: capacity is you know, those are the goals we're trying

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Speaker 4: to hit each and every year. So uh so that

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Speaker 4: this will come down to what's the best best fit

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Speaker 4: for for our offensive staff.

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Speaker 6: Mike, we're all kind of expecting Anon Rodgers to come back.

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Speaker 6: You know him better than anybody, are you Do you

906
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Speaker 6: have a suspicion either way?

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Speaker 4: I don't, but I'll say this, this is this is

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Speaker 4: normal for him this time of year. And this has

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Speaker 4: been my experience with Aaron and something that I always

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Speaker 4: encouraged him to do, uh even in his younger years.

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Speaker 4: Uh in Green Bay. I mean it's important for really

912
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Speaker 4: all these all these guys to get away. There's definitely

913
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Speaker 4: a decompressing component of you know, playing a season, competing

914
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Speaker 4: through a season. You know, the super Bowl is really

915
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Speaker 4: kind of Monday afterwards is just I think emotionally for

916
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Speaker 4: all of us, is when the page truly gets turned

917
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Speaker 4: onto the onto the new year. So I think Aaron's

918
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Speaker 4: just going through his process and you know, evalue, waiting,

919
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Speaker 4: you know, what he wants to do moving forward. But

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm right there with you, Mike. I hope,

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Speaker 4: I hope he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, it seems like you're assembling a coaching staff that

924
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Speaker 5: he would be comfortable with coming back.

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Speaker 2: It's it's almost like you're.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're putting cheese under a box and then you're

927
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Speaker 5: gonna pull the stick when he comes back to say.

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Speaker 4: That's funny, that's good, that's earlier.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 5: I think that a lot of people were proven wrong

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Speaker 5: about what he had left in the tank last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: I think you know, when you when you look at

934
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Speaker 4: you know, you know, the way he's still able to play.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, he'll be able to throw the

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Speaker 4: football at he's seven years old. I mean, he's remarkably

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Speaker 4: gifted in his ball placement. Just having a chance to watch,

938
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Speaker 4: you know, watch most of the games, you know, I

939
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Speaker 4: just was just so impressed with how he still still

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Speaker 4: throws it and just you know, having a chance to

941
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Speaker 4: look at some practice tape, he's still he's still still

942
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Speaker 4: doing it every day. But you know, I think being comfortable,

943
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Speaker 4: you know, with the offensive players, especially your premier guys.

944
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Speaker 4: I mean, we have a chance to be you know,

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Speaker 4: a year improved on what on what was established this

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Speaker 4: past year. I mean the offensive line. I tell you,

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Speaker 4: one thing I was really impressed with is the way

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Speaker 4: they handled his Cadence right away. You didn't see really

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Speaker 4: any issues from my observation, and and and how they

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Speaker 4: were able to you know, because he is Cadence is

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Speaker 4: a weapon. I mean it's truly a weapon. And for

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Speaker 4: those guys to be on the same page early as

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Speaker 4: a real credit to that whole offensive.

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Speaker 2: Group, the seventeenth head coach in the history of the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, and of course the local guy Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff with him there. Good questions is always from

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Speaker 2: Randy Bauman and Mike Persuda. They know how to get

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Speaker 2: the good football detailed questions. You get some fun personality

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Speaker 2: and some laughs as well too. That's the balance they're

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Speaker 2: always striking on the DVE Morning Show. Thanks to producer

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Speaker 2: Jacob Brect for procuring that audio for us. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 2: to Bob Labriola, the Dean of Doom and the Lord

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Speaker 2: of Living in his fears for joining us today. A

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Speaker 2: big thank you as always to TV mister TV Tyler

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Speaker 2: V for producing on the video side of things for

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm West s Huhler. Take care everybody and

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Speaker 2: have a good weekend. We'll talk to you Monday. You've

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Speaker 2: been listening to the Drive on your twenty four to

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