1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive, Bombs, Dale Lolly here with 4 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. Met it is Mock Draft Time Draft Favorite time, 5 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Mock Draft Monday. We're doing this one this week today 6 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: on Pro Football Focus. You've bet um, the pics are in. 7 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Our pick is on the clock here and we've got 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: a couple of trade offers. But let's let's check check 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: off some of the guys here who are available. Yeah, 10 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of these guys were just on the 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: list that we did. Yeah, OK, I'm sure Trey Von Moorg, 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Gregory Russou who was not on our list, but j C. 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Horn was, Wow, Deevin Jenkins, Elijah Moore, Jalen Phillips, A 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Sante Samuel, Elijah Vera, Tucker, Savan Collins, Darius Tony, Dylan 15 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Radden's White, Davis, Samuel cos Me, Travis E. T I mean, 16 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys here available that we're on 17 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: our list. Let's take a look at the trades. Quick 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: question for you, and I think we just answered this 19 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: when we did our list. You'd take Horn over all 20 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: the tackles that aren't the top three, right, I think so, yeah, 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: I think so Yeah. Horn versus daven Collins would be 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: a night conversation. And I think we both had I 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: think I had horn above them. I think we had 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: horn above them, both of us. Yeah. But again, that's 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: it's not a huge right, right, right, And you can 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: make an argument both ways. Uh. So the Saints are 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: on the phone their next pick is and the Lions 28 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: with pick forty one on the phone. We want to 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: deal with the Saints. There's so many good guys on 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the board. I'd love to go back to. Yeah, we 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: want to we want to talk to the Saints here. 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: So they have eight one oh five, one thirty three. Uh, 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: they're sixty off. I might be thrown. Yeah, so obviously 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna give up twenty four and they're gonna give 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: up twenty eight. Um, we want sixty if we can 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, you wanna try that straight up. They're 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna say no, but we're offering Yeah, Okay, they said no, Okay, okay, 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: give him a fifth. Let's try let's try our throwing 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: in our seven. Okay, if that works, bingo, that was enough. Yeah, Okay, 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: still figure three picks in the top sixty. Absolutely get 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty and sixty, and so we'll resume the draft here. 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: A couple of those guys are gonna go the the picks. 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: They used that pick on Jalen Phillips. That makes some sense. 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I guess they just lost Henderson Murig went to the Jaguars. 45 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: That makes that conversation. Louisier J C. Horn went to 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the Browns, Elijah More to the Ravens. Elijah Mores might 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: be a first round pick. And on twenties, we're back 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: on the clock here. Jenkins still available as Sante Samuel 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tuckers, Aven Collins still available, Dylan Raddon's, Samuel 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: cos Me, Alex Leatherway, Travis A t n See. I 51 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: think this, if we're true to our boards, comes down 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: to Zaven Collins verse running backs, and I think I 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: think we both had Collins rated ahead of the running backs. 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a look here, Well, we got a couple. 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: We've got a couple more trade offers here the Jaguars 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: who have picked thirty three picks thirty three and forty 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: five along with sixty five, one, O six, one thirty 58 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: or on they wanted. They want this pick. The other 59 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: team that wants to pick is Seattle. They have fifty 60 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: pick fifty six. We're not interesting, Midge. But if the 61 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars wann't offer us thirty three for eight and they 62 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: have something around seventy about sixty five for that other 63 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: seven round draft pick, that we have that hard beat. Yeah, 64 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: let's see if they'll I think they said to that, 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: but they said, no, what if you may get a 66 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: fifth six, we go up to sixteen here instead, Let's 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: see if that gets it done. That got it done. 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: So we got We give up twenty eight and to 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: sixteen for thirty three and sixty five. That's a great trade, alright. 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: So now we've the other thing that we've done now 71 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: is we've taken that fifth year option off the board 72 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: because we had the thing. We had the first pick 73 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: of the second round. So everybody that we take this 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: year is gonna get a four year contract. We don't 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about fifty franchise from there, 76 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: but you don't have to deal with the fifth year. Okay, 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: So top two guys available, Tevin Jenkins and Zavin Collins. 78 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I would take Collins. I think we take. I think 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: we both had Collins right at ahead of him. My 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: one problem is, and we're being true to our board, 81 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: but I think we both know deep in the back 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: of our head the pro football focus has the running 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: backs really low that we know. I'm almost positive they'll 84 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: get one in this mock on this software with the 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Steelers second round pick, which we both because I think 86 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: it's cheating. Well, here's the thing. We now have picks 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: thirty three, fifty five, sixty six, and eighty seven. If 88 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: we want to come up and get a guy we could. 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: At this point, none of the running backs have gone, right, 90 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: So well, let's see what happens. Let's let's take what 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Collins is still available, right, I think that's a pig, 92 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: all right, pick his in saving Collins. Now, I expect 93 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: some of his running backs to go. Yes, Travis A 94 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: t n just went, We're back up on the clock. Uh. 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: The picts right ahead of us were Greg Newsom at one, 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Melon Fiwana at fifty two to the Bears, Landon Dickerson 97 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: at fifty three to the Titans, and Tyson Campbell at 98 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: fifty four to the Colts Corners. I would have considered 99 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: in his name the top guys available right now, jebral Cox. 100 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: We don't need him now. We just Tay Gowan, Leam Iikenburg, 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Aaron rob Inson, Peyton Turner, Javonte Williams, Andre Cisco, Ronnie Perkins, 102 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Justin Hilliard. Now, remind you we've got picked sixty and 103 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: sixty five coming up. So I think we have to 104 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: take the running back here, just so we don't cheat 105 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: the system a little bit. Yeah, I think I think 106 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: that they have. They have Javonte Williams rated fifty overall. Yeah, 107 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: they had a t M was like thirty four something 108 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: like that. Harris is gone, said, Harris is rated way 109 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: lower than that. They don't like him as much as 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: they like the other two. We like Harris better. Let's 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: take Carre OFSS. Well, if we're gonna do that, then 112 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: we wait and we don't know that. Well, then it 113 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: comes down to you. Okay, do you do you like? 114 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: We don't get to look at the board of everybody. 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: True enough, you know, if we're sitting in the Steelers 116 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: war room and fifty eight and Harris and Williams are 117 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: there and we both have Harris ahead him on our board, 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: we take Harris, right, Yeah, Okay, take Harrison. We're back 119 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: up again. It's a nice little neighborhood to be And 120 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams still available. Why my dad? The picks in 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: between there were Dbrill, Cox Good, Peyton Turner, Harris Ford, 122 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Davian Nixon. Mhm, none of those break my heart. Board. 123 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: We do have a couple of trade offers to the 124 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Falcons was pick I would be thinking Oline or corner here. 125 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Get the Falcons on the phone was sixty eight. The 126 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Eagles on the phone was seventy. So either way we 127 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't move down a lot or much. And we've got 128 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: picked sixty five coming up between that anyway. So the 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: guys available ta Tay gall in the cornerback at U C. 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: F Leam, Likekenburg, Aaron Robinson, Javonte Williams, Andre Cisco, Ronnie Perkins, 131 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Justin Hilliard, Marvin Wilson, Joseph Acai. Let me see here, 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: um the best offensive tackles Aikenberg, Mayfield, Hudson, Deante Smith, 133 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Robert Hainsey, Robert Jones, Spencer Brownhikenburgie, hard for me to pass. 134 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: On the interior offensive line, Creed Humphrey still available. Say 135 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a better center though, Let's say 136 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey. Yeah, I think you take Creed. He was 137 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: on my he was on my yeah, yeah, no, let's 138 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: just take him. And we're still back up again. Guess what, 139 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: We're up at sixty five and Eikenberg is still on 140 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the board. Neither you take him to take him? Yeah, 141 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: you got pretty deep line now, yeah, actually after signing 142 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Haig and Finny and now we're back up at eighty 143 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: seven again here, and I think you're looking corner interior 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: defensive line. I think those are your two. Those are 145 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: definitely the target spots. Just let me call Corners an 146 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman and into your defensive line. And you've 147 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: got any of them that I love though, togy I 148 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: it's seventy? Is there? Shaquire Brown pursued It doesn't even 149 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: like him, yeah, Benjamin st just okay, Rashod wild Goose, 150 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: that's the name I've seen recently to forget. Yeah, I 151 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: don't love him. Trey Brown available, Kelvin Joseph available. Good 152 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: player were Darius Williams, Ambree, Thomas Sewn Wade, j To 153 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: fell A, Bobby Brown, Trill Williams, Marlin two up, uh 154 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: tak our boy, Trey Brown and carry Vincent. Uh yeah, 155 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: we take t Yeah, but let's take the corner here. 156 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Though he's bigger. He actually came in there. They Live 157 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Everything listed him at five nine. He's almost five. He's 158 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: five ten or five nine and three quarters, so he's 159 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: almost he's almost five ten and he's eighty five pounds, 160 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: so he's a little Yeah. Alright, we're back up again 161 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: here and pick one the Bengals running phone. We don't 162 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: deal with you, Cincinnati, get out of here, all right. 163 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Top guys available. Deante Smith interesting, he's a talented guy. Yeah, 164 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: I mean, but then you're keeping five tackles and you 165 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: get center tackle you don't need were Darius Williams, Pete Werner, 166 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: Baron Browning. Again, that's took one in the first round. 167 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: That's that that inside linebacker depth this ship. And I 168 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: guess that's an argument for not taking calls in the 169 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: first round to Faile, And maybe that's why he drops 170 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: a little bit because there are so many Bobby Brown, 171 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Trill Williams, Richard Leconte, Robert Jones, Spencer Brown. Those first 172 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: two d tackles you mentioned are interesting to me. Um 173 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: and dude Brown, I mean here That is where we 174 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: get into that situation where you're what do you feel 175 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: like you need? Um? The line to me really stands 176 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: defensive line. You have an edge that's interest potentially tight 177 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: end in an edge, and we got three, we got 178 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: three picks left, you got we got one, we got one. 179 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: And what do you think you're gonna get or what's 180 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: going to be available? Because you're probably gonna have all 181 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: those guys rated. Sure, in the real world you probably 182 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: have one or two more veterans signed, and that's more clear. 183 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna call up the defensive end arier, the 184 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: tight ends in the edge, and see what we got 185 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: here in defense of interior edge. And you're looking at 186 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: to feile out of USC. That's pretty interesting to me. 187 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: I think we've ever drafted him. I don't think we 188 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: have either a good player, Bobby Brown, He's one of 189 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: my faves, Chris Chris Rump, Okay, Hunter Long, I don't 190 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: long Patrick Johnson, Milton Williams. I bet some people who 191 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: love the Twyman. Oh, I get a lot of questions 192 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, what about Twyman? Why why don't they 193 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: draft Twyman? Milt Williams is available, Uh, Kobe Whiteside at 194 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: the Missouri. What's our next pick? We have? We have 195 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: this is one, we have another pick. At one fort 196 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: there was like four D tackles that I kind of liked. 197 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: I think there's one tight end. I take Long. Yeah. 198 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Instead of to make a decision between the D tackles 199 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: who probably get one soon, you, let's take Hunter Long. Okay, 200 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: how how long is the pick? And we're back up 201 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: the defensive interiors And now we're down to defensive interior 202 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: and edge and the guys available Bobby Brown, Chris Rump, 203 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Johnson, Jaylen Twyland, Twinman. I should say Milton Williams, 204 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: let's take one of those three. Brown would be my 205 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: pick um, But I'm not standing on the table for him. 206 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Milton Williams is intriguing. He's a super athlete. For people 207 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: who don't know. You can bring him along sort of slowly. 208 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: He's not knows this at all. But I don't know that. 209 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that Twyman or Brown are though either Brown's. 210 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Brown is probably the closest thing to that. But does 211 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: he give you what you want? I like the upside 212 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: of Williams coach him up. Learned from Cam and company. 213 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: We could punt on this. And the Jets are on 214 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: the phone. They want they got one pick, they got 215 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: picked one forty six, and they want to make a trade. 216 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: What number we are now we're at fine, let's get 217 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: a future pick. Okay, Uh, they're offering they got one 218 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: forty six and one fifty four. We've got one. Let's 219 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: get rid of we can get rid of forty five 220 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: and get one six. Let's do that, yeah, without questions. 221 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: And they accepted, and we'll resume the draft. So okay, 222 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: so the picks. Then after that they moved up to 223 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: take Jonathan Adams wide receiver out of actually or somewhere, 224 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: carry Vincent went, kJ Stevenson, Jalen Twyman, Chuba Hubbard, Trull Williams. 225 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: And we are back up again. Bobby Brown is still 226 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: sitting there, and so is Williams. So is Williams your call? 227 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: I've really like I don't have to question his motor No, 228 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean he may even help on special teams, right, No, 229 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: I like him. Let's take him and we get another 230 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: pick coming up. We can get our edge. Now that's 231 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: not a bad spot to be. So the picks are 232 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: rolling off here we're almost up to the spot and 233 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: that Yeah, that one easy. That that's the second pick 234 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: around two. What do you mean the pick six was 235 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: the second selection in around around six, I should say. So, yeah, okay, 236 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: we're back up here with the edge. Let's see what 237 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: we got. Jonathan Cooper out of Ohio State be fine, uh, 238 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: doom Aca out of a Duke turn Jackson out of 239 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina, Raymond Johnson out of Georgia Southern. Yeah, William 240 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: Bradley King at a Baylor. That one's probably my pick 241 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: of those. You want that, Yeah, let's let's take all right, polished, 242 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: polished edge rusher. Would you be in the market for 243 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the veteran there too? Yeah, but I think you can 244 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: get those guys just the body that, hey, you're gonna 245 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: line up and play ten snaps chick a loo or 246 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: better type. Yeah. Let's see what kind of grade they 247 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: gave us. Oh yeah, I forgot. They do grades. They 248 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: do grades. We get some criticism on Twitter, you guys 249 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: trade down too much and it probably is a little unrealistic. 250 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to have four trade downs 251 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: in the course of their draft. But live with it. 252 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: But we learn more names alright, alright, so our trade 253 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: in the first our first trade getting twenty eight and 254 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: sixty four and to fifty four beat They really don't 255 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: give as right, Yeah, the only way you get in 256 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: as if you take a quarter pick. Our trade of 257 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: thirty three and sixty five eight and two sixteen was 258 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: a B one. Uh Zaven Collins was a C plus. Okay, 259 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Nausea Harris C plus. Creed Humphrey C plus. I guess 260 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: they're not tackles and quarterbacks and highly expensive positions. Liam 261 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Likeichenberg was a C plus. Trey Brown take those top four. 262 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: Trey Brown was a B plus. About Hunter Long a 263 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: B plus. He could last that long. I mean there's 264 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: been times where people are like, no way Hunter Long 265 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: last that long. I mean he's not a superstar. No, 266 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: he's a solid number two tight ends. Uh. Milton Williams 267 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: was a C plus. Nice. The trade we made were 268 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: with the Jets was a B minus. That was great trade. 269 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: William Bradley King was a C plus. Overall our grade 270 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: was a B m. It like we got a lot 271 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: of seas there, but fair enough. Final results are the leaderboard. 272 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: They rank everybody's draft. Um we ranked according to them. 273 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Twenty five on the draft. I would gladly take that. 274 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: I would trade every Steeler pick that they own right 275 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: now for those player exactly what we got. Yeah, question, 276 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: But if you look at this, they get the teams 277 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: that they gave. They gave eight A's Jacksonville Jets, the Falcons, 278 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: the Panthers, the Patriots, the quarter they all they're all 279 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: teams that took quarterbacks. That's just the way their their 280 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: brads work. That's fine, It doesn't if we could have 281 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: we probably get an A if we take Kellen Mond 282 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: in the sixth round or whatever, you know, something like that. 283 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: Shane Bouchell, Right. I guess that's just the way their 284 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: software works. And I can understand the argument of hey, 285 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: don't pay Hub for centers and linebackers and running backs. 286 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: We get corners and tackles and whatnot. That's fine, But 287 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: if you don't have one depends on the team these right. Yeah, 288 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: you can't just look at the thing. This doesn't happen 289 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Right. If you can give me Naj 290 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Harris in the fifty neighborhood, I'm gonna take them every day. Yeah, 291 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean I might take two absolutely. I mean, you know, again, 292 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I was torn when I put that list together. Last name, Okay, 293 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: I love Jevonte Williams love him. Which one would I 294 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: take if if both are available at four and the 295 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: rest of those guys are gone, like, probably probably take 296 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: her again. I know what Harris is, more what he is, 297 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: and I've seen him well. I do believe that Williams 298 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: can handle that kind of workload. Oh I do too. 299 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: He hasn't. He just hasn't done it, hasn't done until 300 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: this quite the same degree. Um, not quite as good 301 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: as accomplished receiver. I mean, I need a guy right now. 302 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Not that Williams is a project, but I need a 303 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: dude that I can carry that that might be Rookie 304 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: of the Year and I need to carry the ball 305 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, I went this guy to a 306 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: rack of four. He's done that, and he's done that 307 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: this year. Whereas with Williams, it's, you know, I think 308 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: he can do it. I'm I'm pretty damn sure he 309 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: can do it, but I just haven't seen him do 310 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: it yet. That's that's right question. So you know, six one, 311 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: I would be more than happy with either one of 312 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: those guys without a question. Yeah, and ideally if you 313 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: could get a little sweetener on the trade back and land. 314 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Either one is great, but I mean again, I don't 315 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: know how realistic that is. But boy, they both be 316 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: really good steelers. Yeah, I think so. And I mean 317 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I've warmed up. I mean, I know when the whole 318 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: process started, Um, people were asking, you know, what about 319 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: what about Zavon Collins? Did you take it? And I'm like, 320 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a but they've filled a 321 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: few more needs since that doesn't look as desperate. Yeah, yeah, 322 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean he would be a nice addition, there's no 323 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: question about it. Um. I still am not a d 324 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: percent sure that they can afford that luxury because I 325 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: do think job number one has to be get this 326 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: running game going. But boy, he fits what they need 327 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: and when we mock it up, the other positions are 328 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: pretty available on day two. Yeah, that's good. That's the 329 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: other thing that you know, I actually wrote a piece 330 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: up on that little prep thing that we did today. Um. 331 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: I just said, you know, if I put the US together, 332 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: might as well put it out on the on the website. Um. 333 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I explained there. 334 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Like some you know, if you look at some of 335 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: the the experts out there may have some of these 336 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: guys rated to hire them. Where you know the running 337 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: backs for example, but you have to balance in, you 338 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: have to factor in, Okay, what kind of depth is 339 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: there at this position? Can I get a linebacker for example, 340 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: later than you can tackle center linebacker? The day two 341 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: options look pretty darn solid for the style of And 342 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: we've been saying that all along about that particution that 343 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: position in particular, like, well you can get get those 344 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: guys like I wish I liked Sermon better, or you know, 345 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: one of those round three backs and maybe I'm wrong 346 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: on them, Maybe I need to watch him in particular 347 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more, um because ideally I don't love 348 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: using a first round pick on running backs. But you 349 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: sent me something this weekend too. If you look at 350 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: the thousand yard rushers, and I forget how many years 351 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: are you were referencing, if it goes back to two thousand, 352 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean a high percentage or high picks, which isn't 353 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: totally unexpected, But there's a misnomer that what does pick 354 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: up Priest Holmes is an undrafted free agent and have 355 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: put in the Hall of Fame. Here the stats and 356 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: this was done by four for four dot com before 357 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: we have to go here. Okay, since two thousand, a 358 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: running back is rushed for over a thousand yards in 359 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: a season three eleven times. The breakdown on that guys 360 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: taken in round one have done it a hundred and 361 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: forty two times. That's like half. Guys taken him round 362 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: two have done it sixty three times. So of the 363 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: of the three hundred eleven, sixty six percent of those 364 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: have come in the first two rounds. That's two out 365 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: of every three. Add in the round three guys another 366 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: forty four. Now you're up to eight. It's pretty much 367 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: of the thousand yards seasons have come from guys taken 368 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds fifteen and round four, eight, 369 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: and round five, seven and round six, eight, in round 370 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: seven and twenty four undrafted guys and undrafted is a 371 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: big pool. And that's not just guys who've done that's time. 372 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: That's times it has happened, like Frank Gore counts many times. 373 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Robinson this year is one of those Okay, you did 374 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: it once. Those undrafted guys did it once. Are they 375 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: consistently doing it over and over and over again? Probably not? 376 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a twenty year stretch and if you 377 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: bring how many undrafted guys they bring to camp, it's 378 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: about thirty. Actually, yeah, it's there's a lot more of 379 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: those than seventh round picks in the league. Yeah, I 380 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: mean that number should be kind of high, But that 381 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can you can get one or you will. 382 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: It's just to me, it shows that it's you know, 383 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: when you take of the thousand yard seasons have come 384 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: from guys taken in the first three rounds, tells me 385 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't. Yeah, you can get guys in those later 386 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: rounds that can do it, but a can they do it? 387 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: Can they do it? Year after year? History shows that 388 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, and by it might happen once. But 389 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you've solved your running back problem. Good point. 390 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: Good point. I mean, you've got a guy who who 391 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: had a good season. There's a reason why they played 392 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: sixteen games and didn't get hurt much competition, they've never again. 393 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: That That was kind of when I started looking at 394 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: the Javonte Williams saying, I'm like, okay, that tells me 395 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: that that, yeah, you you can have a guy that hey, 396 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: the first first time he's ever gotten two carries in 397 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: his career. He has a thousand yards season. Can you 398 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: do it again? Can you handle that work? Like? I mean, 399 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: there is that Bellqueu mentality that the Peyton's and Emmetts 400 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: and those guys have when everyone knows and you're closing 401 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: out games, and that's a little different. I'm getting twenty 402 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: times a game every week, seventeen seventeen games now instead 403 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: of sixteen, right, and hopefully playoffs all those things. You 404 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: do know, Harris's Donna, we need to tell a little 405 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: bit we I know, we talked about it a little 406 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: bit um a couple of months ago. When they go 407 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: to seventeen games, you need to get does your why 408 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: does your running back room keep an extra guy? You 409 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: better keep more running backs? They take a beating. You're right, 410 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: maybe you use a a committee mentality a little bit 411 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: more too, But if you really want Snell to play snaps, 412 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: you're playing fifteen or whatever, a little step to be 413 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: a little more judicious with it, because you know, you 414 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: don't you know, a guy average just twenty carries a 415 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 1: game for seventeen games, touches and three and forty carries. 416 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: That's that's way too much too much. Yeah, that's a 417 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: good point. So anyways, that's gonna do it for this show. 418 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: But I thought that that graphic was interesting. It's nice 419 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: to them again. That was off of four for for 420 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: dot com. Uh there's it's a Fantasy of Football site. 421 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: But they put us some good Yeah. So anyways, but 422 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob rect here on 423 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lally. We 424 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive 425 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.