WEBVTT - Ep. 30: Chattering Teeth at the Power Line Hole 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:03.840 You won't be able to find a bottle of cocoa 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.240 butter from the Olympic Peninsula of Portland after this. Dude, 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.280 I'm not messing with power lines, like, not even for 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.680 a horse leather swim bait. I'm not doing that. Yeah, 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.240 obviously it didn't pay too much attention because it hasn't 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.920 worked out too wealthy now with the thrift shop equipment right, 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.440 it appears they're like a shipload of casual fish dabblers 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.120 in Vegas apparently, and the vast majority of them cannot 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:31.800 cast Good Morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome to Ben the 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.920 Fishing podcast that cannot eat at Cheat Cheese without pretending 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.680 it's someone's birthday so we can get another sombrero. I'm 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.000 Joe Surmelli a Miles Nulty, and I have never once 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.280 in my life eaten the cheat cheese, but I did 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:50.680 just I saw you put this in and I was like, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:52.960 I never did that, but I did. I did. Just 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.560 now do a Google search so I could know what 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.160 the hell we're talking about. And cheat cheese has not 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.400 existed in this country for fifteen years now. I don't 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.320 know if you know that, so it looks like I 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.560 never will get to eat it one. I also have 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:10.240 no idea where it is you're going with this cheechee thing. Wait, 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.319 they're all gone, Like they've been gone around where I 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:14.920 live for a long time. But they're all gone. There's 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.039 no cheechee left in the in the United States, bankrupt 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.280 gone in two thousand four, though apparently you can still 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.720 find them in Austria, the United Arab Emirates, and Quait 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.600 if you're really needing to fix I can't believe it 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.559 was two thousand four. Was the last time I hated 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.040 a cheechee? Man? That's depressing that. You also just kind 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.520 of messed up my whole plan, like throwing this this 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.800 bummer news about chee cheese. Um, like the very loose 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.160 theme I was going forward. This episode is frivolous celebration, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.200 you know, like like some of us used to do 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:50.600 that a crappy Mexican restaurant chains. Um. Because it's not spring, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.520 so we're clear, but it is now at least officially March. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.600 And that's at least a step in the right direction 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.320 for me. The end of February is worth celebrating eating 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.120 uh in my opinion. And this episode it's like, um, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.200 the lame office party you get like right before you 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:07.800 get married, you know what I mean. Like it's kind 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.720 of awkward and everyone encircles you in the common area 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.200 and you toast with a plastic cup of champagne and 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.360 really really bad. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's it's strange, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.639 but it gets you away from from reality for a minute. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.440 But you do still have like TPS reports to finish 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.919 before you dip for two weeks and have the real party. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.360 So like that's where we are in terms of the 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.120 show today, as well as like spring, like it's March, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.160 like it's not spring. We're getting there, um and look 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.160 for the record, right listen. We love ice fishing. Ice 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.760 fishing is awesome. In fact, late march ice is some 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.160 of the best ice. We know this. But I'm just 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.560 tired of talking about it. And i want my open water. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.440 That's what I want. Yep, yep, no, that's fair. I'm 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.799 I'm also sick, like I do have some open water, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.080 but I'm sick of of when I go find it, 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.519 having to dodge arrant chunks of shelf ice that always 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.080 drift just below the surface and you can't really see them, 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:05.960 and they're always threatening to take you out at the knees, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.400 or at least that's that's my experience. So uh, in 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.760 honor of of the impending reality that we hope will 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:22.680 be spring, Yes, that's right, yes, right, ghost of Rick James, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.120 and we are ringing in the almost kind of soon 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.240 to be spring, we all hope by giving one of 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.040 you some really cool ship to throw. That's right. You 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.520 need to listen up, you need to pay attention right now, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.320 do not fast forward. Uh you know how we've been 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.080 monitoring those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on the 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.680 Graham right, So for exactly one week, there's gonna be 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.440 more up for grabs than stickers for using those. Okay, 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:54.880 our buddy Brent Hashimoto of Hashimoto Concepts has graciously donated 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.600 four packs of his amazing handboard soft plastic swim baits 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.200 plus one of his h C four hard swim baits, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.520 to be given to the hashtagger of our choosing. So sweet, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.520 you guys are also lucky, That's what I'm gonna say. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.200 And and that alone is cool, but even better, the 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.920 winner gets to have the paint job on the hard 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.800 bait done to speck. So if you want a blue gill, 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.799 that looks like it just snooted a cloud cheeto dust. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.599 You got it. You can have that, or maybe you 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.680 can I don't know. Maybe you prefer a swim bait 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:43.000 somehow themed around the four classic movie Break into Electric Boogaloo. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:45.880 What that actually was my favorite movie when I was 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.839 five years older and uh yeah, yeah, I competed in 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.680 the first grade talent show as a breakdanswer. But whatever 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.000 your fetish happens to be, whatever you're into, Brent will 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.960 turn it into a lure just for you. Oh man, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.159 I want you to win. We can do a Boogaloo laure. Um. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.680 You've got between right now on March five and when 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.480 the next episode of Bent drops on Friday, March twelve. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.279 To qualify, though, the shot with the tag or tags 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.520 has to be posted in that time frame, and we'll 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.680 be monitoring the Degenerate Angler and Bent podcast tags and 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.320 we'll post a winner on our Instagram accounts the morning 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.840 of Saturday. So impress us with a fish, make us laugh, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.080 make us gasp, show us something ridiculous in your garage. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.760 Anything goes kind of almost almost almost if you if you, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.640 if you regularly listen to the show, you know what 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.159 We don't want to see, but do surprise us. That's 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.880 always good. And I just want to say huge thanks 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.960 again to Brent for offering his talents. Uh. If you 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.960 want to scope out his work, and I really do 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.640 recommend that you do that, check him out at at 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.920 Hashimoto Concepts. This stuff is super fishy, but also it's 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.279 just it's just pretty well made. It's just nice to 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.240 look at. You know, it's gorgeous. And and perhaps you're 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.119 one of those people who doesn't really fish lures. That's cool, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.520 that's fine. Maybe maybe don't take anything this week. If 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.560 that's you, I disagree, I disagree with me. You can 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.200 still appreciate one of those beautiful lures even if you 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.039 are one of those live bait disciples. And and you 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.640 just have every intention of rolling right on through hard 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.960 water into open water with your bucket of minnows. No 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.960 judgment here. We have you covered two in this week's 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.440 installment of Finn Clips, where we tell you everything about 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.360 a fish you never knew you cared about. Joe is 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.600 going to shine some light on the fat head minnow. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.599 And sure we've all probably stabbed, decapitated, jig trolled, and 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:42.560 suffocated dozens, if not hundreds of them, But what do 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.839 you really know about him? Have you really taken the 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:51.200 time to appreciate this ubiquitous bait fish. How much thought 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.359 do you give to the bait in your bucket? Probably 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.440 not much, right, I mean, you can't wait to throw 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.320 a shot of that football yellow perch on Instagram dropping 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.200 yet another comment about the Gorgeah city of the vibrant 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.000 golds and oranges. You change your profile picture to you 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.400 holding a slab croppy, but never is there social media 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.080 thanks and praise given to the live bait that may 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.480 have caught it. So today I'm shining the spotlight on 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.960 the fat head minnows swimming in your flow troll. And 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.320 even though you won't treat the next dozen you buy 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.520 any differently, you're gonna look at them differently while you're 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.679 impelling them on a hook. Fat Head minnows are members 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.400 of the Suprnidae family. Sound familiar, of course not, you 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.000 don't know Latin, but you are familiar with other members 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.080 of this family, like the common carp and perhaps the barball. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.800 This family also includes true minnows and seeing many people 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.760 just refer to any tiny bait fish as a minnow, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.080 but that's not accurate. Mud minnows, as an example, aren't 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.600 minnows at all. They're killie fish. Glass minnows aren't minnows either, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.800 that's just to catch all term for anchovies and silver sides. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.080 But fat heads are the real deal. Directly related to 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.680 the monstrous Colorado pike minnow, the largest true minnow that 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.680 swims in US water. The fat heads natural range is 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.360 pretty massive, stretching from Chihuahua, Mexico, as far north as 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.000 Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territories. It also extends 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.920 all the way east to the U. S Coast and 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.640 Canadian Maritimes. Of course, these days, fat headed minnows are everywhere, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.920 including Pacific Coast bodies of water and drainages from transportation. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.720 Thanks to their popularity as a bait fish, but also 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.240 because they are some extremely tough little bastards. Fat headed 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.319 minnows can pretty much handle any curveball Mother Nature throws 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.360 at them. They can survive in water with extremely low 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.240 oxygen levels. They can thrive in extremely dirty or turbid water. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.400 They can withstand high levels of acidity, and all this toughness, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.800 of course makes them a great bait fish, because if 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.439 your bubbler dies while you're enjoying the moon's over Miami 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.200 at Denny's, or you're looking for action in that sewage 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.600 filled pond behind that Denny's. These little swimmers are gonna 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.520 go strong and perform well. But that toughness actually has 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.760 greater value than just helping you secure fish fry fodder. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.560 The fat head minnow is used by biologists as an 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.880 indicator species. Think of it as an aquatic canary in 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.240 the coal mine. Essentially, fat heads can handle so much 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.080 more chemical exposure than other species that if the fat 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.040 head population is getting distressed in a particular waterway known 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.680 to have any sort of toxicity issues, it's a signed 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.600 to biologists that things are getting really bad. In fact, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.520 the e p A Guidelines outline the use of fat 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.800 heads for the evaluation of acute and chronic toxicity of 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:36.319 samples or chemical species invertebrate animals. And speaking of chemicals, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.840 how about this. Fat heads also have something called epidermal 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.400 club cells that secrete an alarm substance. Anytime those shallow 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.280 lying cells are damaged, such as when a predator species 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.679 bites or eats a fat head, that alarm juice flows, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.560 signaling all the other fat heads in the immediate area 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.760 to swim away or hide. Furthermore, let's say there's a 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.240 I don't know pickerel that just muched a bunch of 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.280 fat heads. That pickerel is now coated with that alarm 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.959 substance too, So now the fat heads will recognize that 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.920 particular fish as a threat, hopefully before it gets the 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.000 chance to eat any more of them. Most good bait 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.520 shops sell fat head minnows these days. But what if 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.760 you don't have a good bait shop close to home. Well, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.840 perhaps you have a pet smart You know those little 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.280 pinkish orange fish they call rosie reds that they sell 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:28.199 his feeders super cheap. Those are fat head minnows genetically 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.480 identical to the bait shop variety. Now, while that coloration 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.960 trait can occur naturally, it was actually an Arkansas bait 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.840 fish farm that figured out how to make it dominant, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.120 sending billions of bright orange fat heads off to death 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.480 by aquarium cyclid across the country. Now, it's worth noting 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.480 that before using Rosie's, check your local bait regulations. While 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.319 unlike goldfish, Rosie's are fair game in most places, some 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.959 states are even specific counties outlaw them same time. I've 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.720 also been in many bait shops that sell bright rosie's 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.440 right alongside the natural color fat heads. And I've even 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.160 known a few croppy and stocker trout fellers that swore 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.440 them orange ones out fish them natural ones tend to one. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.880 It's also worth noting that pet shop rosies aren't usually 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.720 as hardy as bait shop fat heads, mainly because good 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.920 bait shops actually care about their bait and keep their 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.079 minnows and chilled water, whereas pet store rosies tend to 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.760 swim in room temperature or even heated water. Now, both 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.040 those water temperatures hot and cold are perfectly acceptable to 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.480 the fat heads. But don't be shocked if you take 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.959 pet store roses out to the pond in winter, only 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.840 for them to be shocked to death when you send 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.840 them down thereby not dancing around on that hook long 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.440 enough for you to achieve instant glory or to produce 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.280 anything to dredge through that house. Ultry seafood breader burning 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:46.920 a hole in the pantry back at the ranch. Who 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.160 knew that the tiny little little fat heads that you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.480 see in every in every aerated bait shop were so 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.959 environmentally significant I'd say that I didn't know, and dude, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.400 that that alarm response. That's fascinating. It's fascinating. It's also 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.400 if you think about it too much, they'll If you 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.319 overthink about it, it's kind of depressing because, like, imagine 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.360 two fat heads rigged up and dangling close together, and 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.040 and one one just catches a whiff of the other 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.880 one's alarm juice is like, oh no, I should, I 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.440 should really get the hell out of here. But I 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.120 got this. I got this hook stuck in my face, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.640 So I guess. I guess I'm just gonna get eaten too. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:29.439 I'm done. That's morbid, and that would suck. I will 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.880 admit that I got I got kind of lost research 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.240 in that one. And we we don't give enough thought 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.760 to our live baits, like it's good to take a 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.400 deep dive and what's in your bait bucket? You're that 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.280 You're right, that is true in general, but in this 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.640 particular episode, right now, this week, that is not true, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.559 because you're bringing in the bait fish by the bucket 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.760 for this one. If I'm not mistaken. You recently attended 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.959 the the annual Bunker Symposium and Chili cook Off in 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.600 Atlantic City. Did you not? Didn't that happen? I didn't 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.000 think I did. Yes, and we'll go from tiny sweetwater 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.840 bait fish to foot long salty bait fish. In fact, 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.160 in other good news, uh, striper season just open in 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.640 Jersey March one, so this is good timing anyway. Yeah. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.880 Every year, the greatest serf chunkers in Jersey meet at 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.800 the Atlantic City Marriott, or to be more specific, the 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.480 loading dock behind the Atlantic City Mariott to discuss the 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.760 state of man Haden, or what we call bunker around here. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.760 And it's a it's a really great event and usually 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.120 runs until ten ten thirty or whenever security kicks everyone 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.880 off the property. Um. Anyway, it would take me forever 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.760 to go through all the meeting minutes, but I did 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.520 get a chance to sit down in person with frequent 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:42.440 Bent contributor and surfcasting legend Bob the Garbage Man Britana 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.200 on a newski. I want the minutes please. I think 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.320 whatever the hell those were would be highly entertaining. But 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:52.839 you know, since you're not gonna give us those, I 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.280 can only imagine that that. I'm sure Bob waxed eloquently 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.560 on on. I don't know, Bunker Biomass concert Asian efforts 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.320 or something. Didn't he No, no, not at all. He 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.120 refused to discuss anything related to that on record, but 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.000 I did get him to commit to recording a trivia 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.199 segment with me. You gotta be highly skilled for these shows. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.080 You understand that. If I under are you well versed? 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:20.040 They are? You very smart man. All right, Today on Trivia, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.720 we have an incredibly special guest. I am actually sitting 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.280 face to face special. You broke out all this Mickey 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.080 Mouse equipment from the thrift shop for me. You don't 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.320 like the equipment, This is garbage. I've seen better ship 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.640 of karaoke night. Okay, As I was saying, I am 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.160 sitting face to face in Atlantic City, New Jersey with 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.520 legendary striper chunk and expert Bob Brittana Ananuski, who is 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.480 better known up and down the entire striper coast as 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.120 Bob the garbage Man. And it is such an honor 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.840 to have you here. I feel very much like I'm 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.640 sitting in the presence of pure greatness. Well, yeah, but 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.400 I wish I could tell you the same. You don't 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.880 look like you fished a day in your life. A Okay, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.120 that's that's not accurate. But for for what it is worth, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:08.400 having grown up surfishing in New Jersey, I still, despite 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.760 that comment, Bob would say that you were one of 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.840 my childhood idols. Yeah. Obviously it didn't pay too much 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.080 attention because it hasn't worked out too wealthy and now 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.080 with your thrift shop equipment right right, anyway, for better 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.240 or worse, you have been catching trophy stripers up and 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.760 down the entire coast, and you have shared the beaches 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:32.200 with many legendary surfcasters over the years. That correct, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:33.760 if you want to call them that, But most of 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.560 those guys, you know it was complete bums. Okay, regardless, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.280 I've got a question for you today that sort of 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.160 ties into that vast network of notable anglers that you 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.880 fish with. Hold on a second, just to reiterate whether 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.280 I get your question right or wrong. You're still giving 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.640 me a ride over to the bus depot like you promised, right, Yeah, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.320 that's the deal. That the bus is leaving in forty minutes. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.200 I will honor that deal, and I understand your time 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.240 is in then let's get on with it. Yeah, okay, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:09.680 that's what I'm saying. Here's your question. In September Night two, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:16.920 al McReynolds, Jesus Christ, Yeah, go ahead. Al McReynolds caught 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.200 us seventy eight point eight pounds striped bass off the 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.520 Jetty Vermont Avenue right here in Atlantic City, New Jersey. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.520 That stood as the all tackle world record for almost 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.480 thirty years. Please tell me. The question is do I 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.320 think he really called it? That is not the question 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.400 when I was actually gonna because he didn't. What I 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.960 was actually gonna ask is who held the record before McReynolds. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.600 And I've got some multiple choice for you. Was it 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.080 a Tony Stets Jeff the Janita, But before him it 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.600 was actually stand the Bookkeeper, and before that Hobby of 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.560 the Russian and gas station Billy broke it twice each 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.560 in the same night. All right, that's not not according 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.680 to my research. And I'll also add two nights after 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.280 Alan Reynolds didn't catch that bass, my friend Audi Meldoff 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.840 caught a seventy nine in the exact same place. Huh. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.159 I mean, I'm I'm kind of basing. I was kind 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.600 of based in my choices off the official I g 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.200 F record, And that's fine. But the bus is leaving 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:25.680 in forty minutes. Are we done here? And just like that, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:31.320 strayper fishing history has been rewritten. Did you uh? Did 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.399 you get him to the bus station on time? At least? No? 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.240 He changed his mind. He decided he'd rather me give 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.000 him a ride to a board it up nail salon 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.159 in a completely abandoned shopping center. It just left him 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.479 there and didn't ask any questions. You know, that's just 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:52.399 that's just generally wise. You probably don't want to know 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.439 the answers. But uh, you know what we're gonna We're 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.000 gonna move on from that and hopefully we managed to 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.200 cobble together some answers that you do want to hear. 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.040 Two questions you hadn't thought about, because it's time for 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:12.679 fish news. Fish news. That escalated quickly, all right. I 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.320 positively have to give a shout out at the top 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.920 here to listener Ryan Motley. Now you may recall, uh 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.320 that I said not long ago it was my belief 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.520 that getting lucky the night before a fishing trip in 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:30.359 the bedroom was good luck. You're pleasuring yourself the night 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.320 before a fishing trip was bad luck. Yeah, that was 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:38.119 your contribution to our fishing Superstitions episode do you have Well, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.600 I might have some good news for you guys. Okay, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.040 to see, Ryan has been trying to catch himself his 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.040 first wild Oregon steelhead, and when he heard my theory, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.400 he decided to put it to the test. And according 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.199 to him, he even got his fiance on board with this, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.600 like he would give her notice in the days ahead 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.639 of a steelhead pursuit, and she was game, like, she 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.280 was down, like let's see if the works right. But yeah, 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.359 but he just he just kept scratching like it was 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.760 not it was not working despite his and her efforts. 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.080 So then his fiancee goes out of town he wants 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.399 to fish. So, as he put it, he had a 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.240 date with his right hand in the name of science, 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.720 and next day, bang, wild steelhead. That's his first one. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.159 So it turns out you're wrong. Basically, this is a 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.199 correction that you're not giving us right here. It is 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.840 not because to me, it's very obvious what's happening here. Okay, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.840 all Ryan has really proven is that my my theory 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.440 is reversed on the west coast. It's like a flip. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.320 So my way works on the east side, his way 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.639 works on the west and I mean considering we're talking 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.720 wild steel here, which we all know isn't easy to 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.879 catch anymore. Every Walgreens and Oregan is selling out a 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.400 cocoa butter today. You know it. You won't be able 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.320 to find a bottle of cocoa butter from the Olympic 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:57.359 Peninsula in Portland after this. And I also have Ryan, 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.360 I mean thanks. However, I also have to say kind 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.760 of like shame on you, because dude, if your fiance 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.199 was willing to get busy every time you wanted to 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.840 go fishing, why why would you ruin that? Like? Why 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.720 why would you why would you make that? Why would 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.960 you say all this and ruin that? I think I 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.560 think he's making a questionable choice there. I agree with 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.639 because to make it worse, he even wrote in the email, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.040 and I'm quoting here, now that I've discovered my new 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:27.199 found luck, I'm questioning whether the wedding even needs to happen. Dude, No, no, no, no, 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.360 I appreciate no, No, that's it best. The one thing 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.399 we agree on is disagreeing with that. So best to 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.520 luck to you, Ryan. But but thanks for that, Thanks 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.360 for doing that in the name of science. We all 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.400 we all appreciate it. I think more science, more, more 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.919 research is needed on this particular topic. I don't I 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.439 don't buy Joe's conclusion that it's a left coast right 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:52.000 coast polarity thing. I think that's just Joe's unwillingness to 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.240 admit when he's wrong. But I, on the other hand, 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.119 and am totally capable of admitting my faults. And when 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:01.119 I'm wrong, I smell a correction. Yeah, the one's dumb too. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:06.359 I uh So last week I talked about the the 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.840 coal mining situation over there up there in Canada, and uh, 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.000 I think I got most of the information, Like the 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:17.600 hard stuff I got right, but the easy stuff I 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.800 screwed up. So I completely mispronounced the name of the 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.160 town around which all of this is circling. It's it's more. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:25.639 I know it's called left Bridge, but I called it 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.200 Lethridge for some reason that I don't know. And and 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.399 some of are very pit some of are very polite. 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.040 Neighbors from the north wrote in very nicely correcting me. 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.800 I mean if I had if I had done that 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.800 work like something in Jersey, I would have got hate mail. 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.800 But but no, they're like, thanks so much. It was 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.239 really great. You know, it's actually so thank you for that. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.520 And I apologized for screwing up the basics, but hopefully 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.800 I didn't mess up any of the big stuff. With 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.479 that out of the way, the housekeeping done, we are 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.280 now going to move on to fish news. And you 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.879 will remember that this is a competition. Neither Joe or 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.640 myself know what the other one is bringing the table, 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.320 and we were trying to compete for the heart and 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:10.200