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Speaker 1: this end. Oh Danny mcrage lost mc crae here. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll try and hustle, hustle Danny back here. Free
Speaker 1: agency is obviously the biggest thing going on right now, Craig.
Speaker 1: They they have us by trying. Free agency going here.
Speaker 1: So that's mainly what we're talking about in terms of
Speaker 1: things going on other sports. Everything's kind of been shut
Speaker 1: down here. Um for me in church, I'll ask you
Speaker 1: this out of the gate. What was your in your
Speaker 1: mind the biggest free agent loss for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You and I are singing the same tune right there.
Speaker 1: I love what Quinn was able to do, and it
Speaker 1: was smart signing by the Chicago Bears. And one thing
Speaker 1: I truly believe people forgot is he missed the first
Speaker 1: two games of the year because of the suspension. Who
Speaker 1: knows how many more sacks that he could have gotten,
Speaker 1: especially when you think about those first couple of games.
Speaker 1: It was what the Giants game, and I can't remember
Speaker 1: the second game they played. It was another easy appointed
Speaker 1: opponent as the Cowboys. It was Washington. It was Washington,
Speaker 1: So you know, those those two games, getting when they
Speaker 1: made that trade from Miami. But look, this is a
Speaker 1: part of the game. The Cowboys are gonna have to
Speaker 1: put that money toward the offense. And so Quinn was
Speaker 1: the guy they couldn't lose. All respect of Byron Jones
Speaker 1: and getting that big bat contract for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I think he'll play well in that scheme. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: at the time, the highest fade cornerback for about I
Speaker 1: don't know, seven eight days until Slay was straighted the slave.
Speaker 1: Slay like, I need three dollars Yeah, Slay said, I
Speaker 1: need three dollars more, you know, So he needs to
Speaker 1: be the highest fade guy. So slave becomes the highest
Speaker 1: play guy going to the Eagles, and so Jones I
Speaker 1: think is gonna fit well down in Miami. Good luck
Speaker 1: to him. But I do believe Robert Quinn was the
Speaker 1: biggest free agent loss. I'll say this to me right now.
Speaker 1: The biggest loss for the Dallas Cowboys I believe they
Speaker 1: suffered this offseason the loss of center Travis Frederick. You
Speaker 1: guys know what traps, Yeah, you know what he meanted.
Speaker 1: He retired at twenty nine years old. He came back
Speaker 1: last season after missing twenty eighteen because of the Guiabore syndrome.
Speaker 1: But everything Travis meant as far as being a leader
Speaker 1: in the locker room, being a five time Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: or being a guy who worked so well with the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from Tony Romo and Dak Prescott. It's hard to
Speaker 1: lose someone like that. And so while Robert Quinn is
Speaker 1: gonna be lost on defense, to me, the biggest loss
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys that they've suffered this offseason is Travis Frederick.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts glue to the top of the the line. Point
Speaker 1: now where they gotta go Henlover back of the old line.
Speaker 1: When you need the guy like that, you're definitely gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You're definitely gonna have a big, substantial fall backwards as
Speaker 1: far as offensive line is considered. They may go in
Speaker 1: the draft they make promote the mooning us, we'll see,
Speaker 1: but Chaffers special's approved and all star better shot here
Speaker 1: and losing him is gonna be huge. And I mean
Speaker 1: he was off us because he was one of the
Speaker 1: festive leaders on the team. As soon as he came
Speaker 1: in as a rookie. I mean, he was already getting
Speaker 1: the praise from the veteran players how far he worked
Speaker 1: out how he understood the game, how big of a
Speaker 1: student of the game he was. And he just think
Speaker 1: to me about him was he was able to improve
Speaker 1: each and every year until the illness got him. But
Speaker 1: each and every year he just got better and better.
Speaker 1: It was a Pro Bowl, and it was an All
Speaker 1: Pro and it was Colo Bow All Pro together. I mean,
Speaker 1: good guys, one of the best off the linement I
Speaker 1: that seek to it. And that's the game unbelievable. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a huge, huge lost for as Cowboys offense. Um,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to go a bringing fools now,
Speaker 1: trafispresect is gonna be I'll say this. So he didn't
Speaker 1: even cray back up WiFi. Man, I just I just
Speaker 1: wanted to throw a little bit in Narrol Travis Fridgick.
Speaker 1: I just saw that he got voted for the Air
Speaker 1: Black Courage Award going into retirement. So that just shows
Speaker 1: you what what his teammates and Paris think of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Craig, you faded out a little bit here. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Um, you know, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: like coach Nick Saban and jump on you and make
Speaker 1: you to get out of here. Okay, So so I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do that that that role time mentality, but
Speaker 1: you know, we will continue to work with your hero
Speaker 1: on um. I feel like the Cowboys do not have
Speaker 1: to address the center position in the draft. I think
Speaker 1: they've got any house candidates already. I talked to someone
Speaker 1: about Joe Looney and he told me Joe Looney is
Speaker 1: as good as fifty percent of the starting centers in
Speaker 1: the National Football League right now. So they believe that
Speaker 1: you go with Joe Looney, you're good. Joe Lanny's athletic guy.
Speaker 1: And then Cotter McGovern who started one year at center
Speaker 1: at Penn State. And thing about mcgovernor, I was told
Speaker 1: that he's a real strong guy and once he gets
Speaker 1: a hold of you, it's hard to move here. So
Speaker 1: you've got him, You've got Adam Redman, and then Carter
Speaker 1: Williams has some center flexibility. So I believe the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: with the draft picks they have, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to see them use them more on defense. If if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to draft the offensive line, I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be a center. I think it
Speaker 1: could be a swing tackle because you've lost Cam Fleming
Speaker 1: here and a couple of years ago, they tried to
Speaker 1: do it with Chads Green. Chaz Green didn't work out.
Speaker 1: They spent a third round pick on him. But with
Speaker 1: what we've seen through the past couple of years of
Speaker 1: tirings back and then we saw a little bit of
Speaker 1: injury to Lyle Collins last year, I would think if
Speaker 1: they use an offensive line pick, it would be on
Speaker 1: a swing tackle. I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 1: I think they definitely need having a swing tack or
Speaker 1: somebody who could be personal enough to play you know,
Speaker 1: interior to the line as well to outside because what
Speaker 1: we've seen these a couple of years of injuries happen,
Speaker 1: especially on the hamed the line. I mean, you're getting kid,
Speaker 1: everything will play. We had back problems, you had ankle problems,
Speaker 1: So we know bad for the offid line injuries and
Speaker 1: so I think they should addressed it, maybe in a
Speaker 1: later round. But I'll be able to get him, you know,
Speaker 1: a low costing creagent that will be able to become
Speaker 1: a swing pack or versus officive lineman piece for them.
Speaker 1: But um, I think he's gonna alloyed for Frederick. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the strongest or wasn't the most physical guy,
Speaker 1: but he had a mean his mental aspect for the
Speaker 1: game was just unremarkable. So I think that's who the
Speaker 1: losing move it the most. Not as much as his
Speaker 1: play play making ability and ability the block, but ability
Speaker 1: to get to all the officive lineman and the rights
Speaker 1: plays at the right time. I think that'll be hard
Speaker 1: to to address it house. The interesting things and thing
Speaker 1: is Cowboy fans. Cowboy fans look at this and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, my god. But when
Speaker 1: you start looking at other offensive lines the National Football
Speaker 1: even with the loss of Travis Frederick, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: still one of the best offensive lines going in football.
Speaker 1: So if you got a plug in Joe Lanny Joe,
Speaker 1: or you're bringing kind of government miscover his rookie years,
Speaker 1: you're still gonna be better off than about sixty five
Speaker 1: other teams in the National Football League when it comes
Speaker 1: to how be good to happen, good line to play.
Speaker 1: So I think the Cowboys and the big question to
Speaker 1: me is this new coaching staff, coaches, how they get
Speaker 1: ahead and get in with these guys. And obviously, but
Speaker 1: everything going on with COVID nineteen they're not gonna have
Speaker 1: that a building right now to get things to be
Speaker 1: gin here a give to what they want to do
Speaker 1: if they want. But I just believe that's what I believe.
Speaker 1: That's what the Cowboys have, and I think they will
Speaker 1: continue to have. Even twenty eighteen traps that was a
Speaker 1: playoff team. So I don't want to minimize the loss
Speaker 1: of tracks, but I do below you the Cowboys collective
Speaker 1: elective as they used they still be strong, strong, I
Speaker 1: can I agree with you on that one. What what
Speaker 1: coach in my mind is, are they gonna be able
Speaker 1: in my team without you know, Travis Pretick out there
Speaker 1: calling the shot? Are they're gonna be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball as efficiently as they had in the passo?
Speaker 1: We've known that this team, you know, they drive off
Speaker 1: the run and the pad can kind of be My
Speaker 1: question to you would be, will they be able to
Speaker 1: you know, run the ball and be that physical team
Speaker 1: without their leader at the center if they're healthy. I
Speaker 1: don't see why they can't. I mean to keep in mind,
Speaker 1: you got one of the best or the best running
Speaker 1: back in the National Football League, So you give you know,
Speaker 1: you give Zeke just a little bit he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to take off and blue the rest. And I
Speaker 1: just have this faith that Mike McCarthy's gonna come in
Speaker 1: here that has an offensive play caller and a guy
Speaker 1: who's who's so good and putting up points. I don't
Speaker 1: worry about the Cowboys offense. I think the first three
Speaker 1: to four games you're gonna have a little bit of
Speaker 1: worry because especially depending on how much time they get
Speaker 1: to think with this team, install what they want that.
Speaker 1: But I just believe, you know, over time, this offense
Speaker 1: is gonna be good Berry Mike all right. That that
Speaker 1: is a concern last year, and I know they're making
Speaker 1: some changes. I love the fact they brought in Gerald McCory.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get bigger upfront, Don Terry Poe or
Speaker 1: there's still those conversations that deal have been locked up
Speaker 1: just yet to my knowledge, but I know he's a
Speaker 1: guy they want to bring in here. So if you
Speaker 1: bring in a pole, you bring in a Gerald McCoy,
Speaker 1: you're bigger upfront. One of my concerns is, and when
Speaker 1: I talk to other people across the NFL, they said
Speaker 1: the Cowboys just too small up front. Then Rod Marinelli
Speaker 1: liked those quick guys. But if you could get your
Speaker 1: hands on those quick guys, you could go ahead and
Speaker 1: tear them up. And you just look at how they
Speaker 1: got beat by the Rams in that playoff game in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I was out there. I mean Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley had over one hundred yards. C J. Anderson had
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. Think it was like two hundred
Speaker 1: and almost two hundred and seventy some yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: I mean, they absolutely just ran through the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys were not able to stop the run
Speaker 1: up front, they would get beating a lot of games.
Speaker 1: And I just like the fact that Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: Mike no One already realized and hey, look we're gonna
Speaker 1: get away from these little dudes who are quick. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get some beef up front. If you stop the
Speaker 1: run up front. I think you're gonna help out Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: You're gonna help out Lake Vanderesh, You're gonna help out
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. So get better up front right there in
Speaker 1: the middle, and try and put some pass rush also
Speaker 1: on the other team up front through the center and
Speaker 1: guard position. So I love, I love what they can
Speaker 1: do with those guys, especially, they can get Pole locked up.
Speaker 1: But I love McCoy coming to town pretty much run
Speaker 1: freely to make plays like they did back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight teams. But only concerned about having those
Speaker 1: big guys in the middle is are they going to
Speaker 1: be able to produce the pass rush? Are those guys
Speaker 1: they're they're they're good enough to kind of get that
Speaker 1: interior push, but they're gonna be able to push supporter
Speaker 1: back to get that ball out of his hands quick Um.
Speaker 1: In the past, I think they would have. I mean,
Speaker 1: when they were younger, they were very studs in the
Speaker 1: in the middle, getting back and everything. But these past
Speaker 1: a couple of years, I haven't really seen a lot
Speaker 1: of the numbers from a boy um little Pole. But
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about if they're gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: a significant pass rush or a consistent pass rush. So
Speaker 1: that's what we missed last year with the defensive mind
Speaker 1: seeing we had you know, spotty pass rushers here and there,
Speaker 1: you know, taken advantage the work with the rest of
Speaker 1: the deeper the line. So I soon to see if
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, they're big or run stuff or
Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to generate a pass rush.
Speaker 1: I believe they might be able to it. So that'll
Speaker 1: take a lot of the pressure off of the secondary.
Speaker 1: And we know the secondary need a little bit of
Speaker 1: upgrade as they lost keep, they locked Tyron Jones, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna need a little bit of upgrade. But hopefully
Speaker 1: the deep of the line can get that pass rush
Speaker 1: in there. They kind of make their jobs eve here.
Speaker 1: But we shall see. So I'll stay with you on
Speaker 1: that point there. So I'm thinking of, all right, we
Speaker 1: take Lords at a defensive end and put Tyron Crawford
Speaker 1: back on the defensive end. That Gerald McCoy get down,
Speaker 1: Terry Pole locked up right there. So if those are
Speaker 1: four guys that you've got rolling right there right there,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's upgrade a little bit from what
Speaker 1: we saw last year. And yes, that's say upgrade even
Speaker 1: with Quinn going from the standpoint if you're better from
Speaker 1: the tackles. I mean, look, I mean, look, Quinn coming
Speaker 1: off the edgels. That help. But guys, if we could
Speaker 1: just run through the middle, you know how much did
Speaker 1: that really help me? Sometimes I just think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys overall, we're gonna have an opportunity to be better
Speaker 1: under my older just by being thinker up. And then
Speaker 1: we'll see what other editions they can make. A free
Speaker 1: aid may see and see what they do with the
Speaker 1: draft here. And I know a lot of Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: right now like we're not better than what we were
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, I've heard people say that, and I
Speaker 1: come back and I'll say, yes, some good players were
Speaker 1: from Robert Quinn, Byron Jones. But with all those great players,
Speaker 1: this team didn't go anybody because the team didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoff. So so sometimes it's not so much who
Speaker 1: are the players. I do believe coaching Matt One thing
Speaker 1: I was watching on HBO that that's great documentary on
Speaker 1: Belichick and saveing Belichicks says you cannot overcome back. And
Speaker 1: there are times last year defensively you're watching this game
Speaker 1: and very play wondered what were the Cowboys doing defensively?
Speaker 1: What was the scheme, what was the playing? I just
Speaker 1: believe that they've got better the coaches here overall, from
Speaker 1: the head coach on down, and I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have an opportunity if they can get some more the
Speaker 1: pieces they wan't mind up to be better collectively collective.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think they can be better collectively.
Speaker 1: I think the problem they had last year was they
Speaker 1: were especially in the secondaries. They think they were thinking
Speaker 1: too much robotics. They were thinking too much hard. I
Speaker 1: gotta be twenty yards deep, right on the hash. I
Speaker 1: gotta to say right to the ball thrown. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't think outside the box. That I can't. You know,
Speaker 1: if like we saw Tyron Matthew out there doing the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you know, he would have a guy man and man coverage.
Speaker 1: If he seems them hoping, he let that guy go
Speaker 1: and they'll make a play. But I mean that also
Speaker 1: has to do with, you know, the coaches trusting the
Speaker 1: players and that sort And I don't know if the
Speaker 1: coaches fully trust the players last year because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the time they were just stuck
Speaker 1: on exactly where they have to be, have to be
Speaker 1: at this landmark. If I'm not here, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a minus. And they would let him play going by.
Speaker 1: So I think we have, you know, the Kaka Ditton there.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more opportunist to keep a little
Speaker 1: bit more let me go get this ball, and that's
Speaker 1: what this defense needs, especially the secondary. They need turnover,
Speaker 1: they need takeaways. We just didn't get enough of that
Speaker 1: last year. I think with the additions that we had
Speaker 1: maybe a couple here during the draft or the Resci creator,
Speaker 1: so we might get a couple of ball ball hoops,
Speaker 1: but we need people to go get that ball, and
Speaker 1: we need coaching. Repor did that as well. If they
Speaker 1: if they say them, they say, you know, I don't come,
Speaker 1: I don't play it. Don't don't let up our coach
Speaker 1: and bring you down. Don't out there and make play.
Speaker 1: You know, we tell you to be here at this point.
Speaker 1: But if you're want to make an indefensive somewhere real,
Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna get at ninetus for that.
Speaker 1: So I think we just need a little bit more
Speaker 1: that and hopefully just coaches, staff and the players that
Speaker 1: we brought it and uh, you know, do that for us.
Speaker 1: Asking around about the Cowboys situation for defensively differ and
Speaker 1: I was told by someone by someone that the problem
Speaker 1: the problem of watching Marion Elli and Christie Shard and
Speaker 1: try to work together. They were trying to marry true
Speaker 1: different thoughts defensively. What Chris thought about defense and what
Speaker 1: he wanted to run was different than RHY, so they
Speaker 1: tried to marry it together and it didn't work. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it did not work that they needed to go with
Speaker 1: either one, either go with Marion Ellie's philosophy or Chris's philosophy.
Speaker 1: But they tried to marry two the philosophies and it
Speaker 1: just didn't work. Didn't work. Mike Nolan's going to be
Speaker 1: able to do exactly what he wants to do. So
Speaker 1: if he comes in with his message and he wants
Speaker 1: to get it done to get I think that right.
Speaker 1: They are marry just to try to what you were
Speaker 1: talking about. The guys might be able to play a
Speaker 1: little bit more freely, especially on the defensive here to
Speaker 1: just make him dog on plays Haha. Clinton Dixon, I
Speaker 1: was happy to see him come in here. I for one,
Speaker 1: hated the loss of Jeff He. I feel that Jeff
Speaker 1: he did a very good job considering what he was
Speaker 1: asked to do. I think there are times where you
Speaker 1: were fans needed to blame the organization more so than
Speaker 1: to play. I mean, Jeff was a backup player where
Speaker 1: they were asking to start. I think jeffs as a
Speaker 1: backup player is going to help the Raiders out. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a guy that needs to be a starter,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that could come in here and
Speaker 1: help me out, especially all special teams. So I think, haha,
Speaker 1: Clinton Dick's back there will help them out. I do
Speaker 1: believe that they're going to address the position in the draft,
Speaker 1: and I don't know about a first round pick, but
Speaker 1: I do believe safety will be addressed. And I just
Speaker 1: at this point in time that they're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to go and get themselves a first round corner. And
Speaker 1: I just think he's having one, you know, one philosophy
Speaker 1: versus trying to marry to marry that alone should help
Speaker 1: make the Cowboys out one quarter one twenty twur I
Speaker 1: got I agree with you one hundred. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never had you, never had got to play you organization
Speaker 1: where you had two basically different philosophy trying to marry
Speaker 1: into one, like you know with Marion Ellie system and
Speaker 1: when I played in and he was a type of
Speaker 1: guy that had you know, you gotta be here, you
Speaker 1: gotta be twenty yards deep here at the hash or
Speaker 1: you gotta go to the top of your landmark when
Speaker 1: you're here. And I've never got to play potisial Shard,
Speaker 1: but from what I hear, he's kind of more roofly,
Speaker 1: you know, do the techniques that fit your scheme and
Speaker 1: fits how you want to play and how you make plays.
Speaker 1: So those are two, you know, things that are condicted themselves.
Speaker 1: And when you're a player out there and you're thinking
Speaker 1: about all, I gotta do it how marry Marion Ellie wants,
Speaker 1: but I can make a play how fish for Shard wants.
Speaker 1: It just slows you down altogether when you're thinking too
Speaker 1: much on the field. So hopefully, you know, when Michael
Speaker 1: Nolan system comes in here, it's a little bit more
Speaker 1: slim down and these guys can just go off there
Speaker 1: and play fast and make plays and I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about thinking too much or thinking if I'm
Speaker 1: on this landmarker, if I'm gonna get a minus here.
Speaker 1: And that's what you have when you have two defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators on the same team trying to trying to marry
Speaker 1: two different philosophies. They think it was a good fit,
Speaker 1: and it ended up not working for the Capital last year.
Speaker 1: So Marinelli moved on to the Raiders stuff. He got
Speaker 1: picked up John Grew and brought him in here. John
Speaker 1: Gruden and Marionelli works together, and so Marionelli, Barnell and
Speaker 1: right now cut shards. He's not working anywhere at all. Right,
Speaker 1: got I'm surprised and nobody not in the NFL picked
Speaker 1: up for Charda, for Sharon at all. Yeah, he surprised
Speaker 1: out there too. I mean, I saw you had some
Speaker 1: head coaching um interviews more in the off season. But
Speaker 1: I'm surprised and mean, hen he was a successful coach
Speaker 1: to Seattle. He came here and kind of brought that
Speaker 1: fired intensity. It just didn't work out the way, you know,
Speaker 1: we we wanted it for worldout pick. I feel like
Speaker 1: he's a good coach and kind of got the attention
Speaker 1: of his players, especially the young terys. I feel like
Speaker 1: he was able to relate to a lot of the
Speaker 1: players out there. And I'm surprised, just like you, that
Speaker 1: nobody has seemed to pick him up about the more
Speaker 1: for the team. But you know, maybe he wanted to
Speaker 1: be a coming head coach, so he's waiting for a
Speaker 1: head coaching opportunity. I'm not quite sure. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: this one more time. Was a tough part of the
Speaker 1: National Football you know, everybody wants to touch when you're
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs and people thinking cold product. Everybody
Speaker 1: who's runs away because you think about it, the year
Speaker 1: before when the Cowboys making the playoffs, you're doing it.
Speaker 1: It didn't after no interviewing in Miami, and the next
Speaker 1: year Cowboys don't make the playoffs. Bully, you know, he
Speaker 1: fell off the map. So that's that's the cold part.
Speaker 1: Man trying to try to get through the dCas how
Speaker 1: you stay hot and how you doing them right? You don't,
Speaker 1: but I think Chris. I think Chris will be fine.
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunately because when you when you lose like
Speaker 1: this man, nobody wants to touch everyone with. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: had the head coaching offer from the Oakland Raiders after
Speaker 1: one year with the Cowboys, and he turned out the
Speaker 1: jo offer from how Davis. Jerry Jones gave him a
Speaker 1: million bucks to come back, and then the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: getting to make the playoffs the next year. Nobody called
Speaker 1: s okay. Sean Cline sniffed. They go back to the
Speaker 1: playoffs the next year after that, and then he interviewed.
Speaker 1: Sean interviewed in Green Bay. He really wanted the packer's job.
Speaker 1: Back with to Mike McCarthy, did Sean got the job in?
Speaker 1: That's how the thing goes, man. That's why so many times,
Speaker 1: as a coach and even a player, if you got
Speaker 1: the opportunity to jump on something, you better get it
Speaker 1: because everybody will quickly forget any year how hurt you
Speaker 1: were and not always understand what happened, what's the circumstances,
Speaker 1: stances happened from you to hear year. But you know,
Speaker 1: you set like you forgot how to coach, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's just how it is, man, how it is man,
Speaker 1: And you're right, and that's exactly how it is. It's
Speaker 1: just the NFL means, you know, not for long or
Speaker 1: if it's yes, so yeah, have you done for me lately?
Speaker 1: Type league? So like you said, you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you go seven or nine one year, nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: be knocking at your door, even if you're a safe
Speaker 1: or a player. And if you get you know, no
Speaker 1: interceptions and your team was terrible, nobody's gonna come knocking
Speaker 1: at your door until maybe an injury happened or something
Speaker 1: like that. So it's always you know, what have you
Speaker 1: done for me lately? You could have made the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl and All Pro in two thousand and eighteen. Two
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen, you had a slow year. Man, if
Speaker 1: you're creating two thousand and twenty, you might not see
Speaker 1: anything until the way through the season. So it's always
Speaker 1: about what you can do for me lately, and you
Speaker 1: always got to set up your game that craze your game.
Speaker 1: And there's always gonna be somebody out there trying to look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we can look at Robert Quinn. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's a guy that the Cowboys, guy from Miami. I
Speaker 1: forgot about him. It came up to the Cowboys ended
Speaker 1: up with eleven Sackson next year. We got paid real well.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's an example of the people and
Speaker 1: what have you done when the leading the thoughts processes.
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Speaker 1: dot Com Radio on new Scrugs, joined by Fourer Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy players, Danny McCrae and Barry Church. All Right, the
Speaker 1: FL Draft is going to go on and schedule. Roger
Speaker 1: Goodell sent a memo memo out to team. So April
Speaker 1: twenty three through the twenty fifth is when we will
Speaker 1: see the draft. So first round is on April twenty third,
Speaker 1: Rounds two and three the next night. Then they finish
Speaker 1: off rounds four through seven on the twenty fifth. All Right,
Speaker 1: Danny mccraig, your thoughts on the NFL, saying, Hey, despite
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world right now dealing with
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, the show will go on. Okay, So still
Speaker 1: still still trash right there, Still we were problematic, problematical.
Speaker 1: I'll pick it up from here. From here, Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right now, we got Danny matt Okay,
Speaker 1: Fanny pick it up. Yeah, yeah, So hello, can you
Speaker 1: hear me? We got you? We got you? Yeah. So no,
Speaker 1: So I'm saying I think it's very smart. I think
Speaker 1: he was correcting his uh in a statement and saying
Speaker 1: that we don't know where we're going to be at
Speaker 1: in the next few months, and we're even gonna be
Speaker 1: able to read schedule and have the event like we
Speaker 1: really want to have it. So it really doesn't make
Speaker 1: much sense to bet on that. So go ahead and
Speaker 1: give America and some people uh some things to watch
Speaker 1: and something to look forward to, and go ahead and
Speaker 1: get this thing rolling. So I like the idea. Church
Speaker 1: Church Pro Day was a big deal for you coming
Speaker 1: out of not having pro days right now where Scotts
Speaker 1: have come out there, I'm out there and go see
Speaker 1: players live. You had the same You were able to
Speaker 1: be a part of the pro days. They were looking
Speaker 1: at other players and then band they got to see.
Speaker 1: So Church, if you're a player out there right now,
Speaker 1: then get to the combine combine what would you do
Speaker 1: in order to try and get your tapers and filling
Speaker 1: yourself out here to the scot well after you know,
Speaker 1: being mad and being picked off that I couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything like that, I would. I would try to do
Speaker 1: my own type of thing where I'd have maybe you know,
Speaker 1: my trainer and maybe you know a couple of players
Speaker 1: that we were training with, just film or our own
Speaker 1: prod they just film a forty yard dash, you know,
Speaker 1: their shuttle, all that stuff, have all the times recorded
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and then at the end of it,
Speaker 1: you know, try harder to send it into these teams,
Speaker 1: send it into these teams to try to try to
Speaker 1: get a look at us. If you know, we weren't
Speaker 1: one of those premier players that they were taking a
Speaker 1: look at to begin with, maybe we'll you know, throw
Speaker 1: the tap in there and maybe don't invite us to camp,
Speaker 1: or maybe don't invite us to an obam. It's just really,
Speaker 1: you know, bad that these you know, these kids that
Speaker 1: aren't the you know, the high profile picks of the
Speaker 1: gays that are gonna be slotted in the first round draft,
Speaker 1: that they're not able to improve their draft rating or
Speaker 1: even get on the draft board at all without a
Speaker 1: pro there. So it just sucks for them. But they
Speaker 1: what they can do if they can make up their
Speaker 1: own type of pro day where they can have their
Speaker 1: trainer and a couple of players that they work with
Speaker 1: kind of film on trying to film how they you know,
Speaker 1: do their short shuttle forty yard and send it in.
Speaker 1: That's the best that they have because you know, if
Speaker 1: if the ProTeam weren't looking at you to begin with.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to look at you when
Speaker 1: you know, if there's no pro day out there, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do some type of tapes. She's just
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a chance, send it in and
Speaker 1: hopefully they take a look at it. And that just
Speaker 1: kind of went to the side. But we'll see, you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL has you know, they always kind tend to
Speaker 1: find talent, and so we'll see what happens. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I think this is uh where agents really
Speaker 1: get a chance to make their money, right. They need
Speaker 1: to lean on those relationships that they have with some
Speaker 1: of these these scouts and these gems, and they should
Speaker 1: be able to get a look at some of these tapes.
Speaker 1: They should be able to get your taping some of
Speaker 1: these guys faces, especially under the circumstances. So I think
Speaker 1: having one of those prominent agents or those agents with
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships is big under these circumstances. Right now,
Speaker 1: All right, Tom Brady was taking his talent to the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and basically came down between the Chargers
Speaker 1: and the bus and I had a source tell me
Speaker 1: that what one and older for Tampa Bay was the coaching.
Speaker 1: He felt there was a better coaching staff for guys
Speaker 1: who could coach him him. Bruce Arians, tom Ward, Clyde,
Speaker 1: Christians and Byron left to what they had over with
Speaker 1: the charge you charge and season tickets are being sold
Speaker 1: at a fast rate back to the Bucking years have
Speaker 1: raised prices already. What do you guys think about Brady
Speaker 1: leaving New England after twenty seasons now taking the show
Speaker 1: to your NFC and the Tampa Bay Bucks. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you not played Tampa Bay in twenty I
Speaker 1: think it was a great move. I mean for Tom,
Speaker 1: I mean I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we just kind of realized that, you know, my time
Speaker 1: in New England was out of his twenty years, there's
Speaker 1: six Super Bowl wins, you know, nine appearances. I did
Speaker 1: all I can for New England. Let me try to
Speaker 1: take my talent down stop and see what I can
Speaker 1: do down there, and see if I can do it
Speaker 1: by myself. Because everybody pretty much kind of linked him
Speaker 1: and Build Belichick together rightfully, So maybe they've they've been
Speaker 1: together so long, they've want so much together that everybody
Speaker 1: kind of linked them together, But I think Brad just
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to do it on his own. And
Speaker 1: I think he chose Hampa Bay because, you know, they
Speaker 1: kept the Chargers have a similar skill set on the
Speaker 1: officer side of the ball. But Tampa Bay, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got two thousand YARBC was on the outside. You
Speaker 1: got a huge, big time tight end and Howard and
Speaker 1: you got Cameron Braid out there, who's not a stop
Speaker 1: either at the tight end. I mean, they got a
Speaker 1: good offensive lions and their defensive and improvement. So I
Speaker 1: think he looked at it this thing, you know, they
Speaker 1: give me the best opportunity to opportunity to win and
Speaker 1: kind of get to that next level and that too
Speaker 1: the Bowl once again. So I think that's what made
Speaker 1: him decide. Because over there the Charges they don't have
Speaker 1: a shabby coaching staff. I mean, maybe he has more
Speaker 1: to do with you know, Bruce Arians and Byn Let's
Speaker 1: put you know boys, But I just think he looked
Speaker 1: at it more of the offensive skill setting the team
Speaker 1: that could take him to the Super Bowl next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I feel I talked to a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that used to play for Bruce Arians. They call him
Speaker 1: bea and they said, he's a he's a player's coach.
Speaker 1: They love playing for him. He's one of those guys who,
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to bring up LSU, but he's
Speaker 1: like one of those ed, those and run guys Like
Speaker 1: his players are run through the wall for him. So
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady meeting him and getting to being
Speaker 1: able to talk to him and listen to him, I
Speaker 1: think Bruce Arians sold him on something that was great,
Speaker 1: and he, like in Church said he looked at all
Speaker 1: that talent, and he looked at Jameis Winston thirty for
Speaker 1: thirty and he automatically assumed he could at least go
Speaker 1: fifty for ten. So so I think you just if
Speaker 1: you're looking at it and he's comparing himself to Jamison,
Speaker 1: he says, I can do this much better, and I
Speaker 1: can take this team this much further as a great
Speaker 1: coaching staff. This guy already won me over. I think
Speaker 1: it was just all positives for him and a change
Speaker 1: from from Bill Belichick, who we already knew that they
Speaker 1: had a little riff growing in their relationship over the
Speaker 1: last few years. I think it was just tim and
Speaker 1: I think Bruce Arians won him over all. Right. Danny
Speaker 1: State State let me ask you a question finally, all right,
Speaker 1: all right? In your opinion, do you think Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was tired of Belichick or do you think it was
Speaker 1: the other way around, or do you think it was
Speaker 1: just like a mutual mutual break up In your opinion,
Speaker 1: I think I think think about twenty in my twenty
Speaker 1: l twenty years within years with anyone over time time.
Speaker 1: I think that guy wanted soon in some concessions. Hey
Speaker 1: maybe I've earned a little pass here today, and Belichick
Speaker 1: was a chick gonna change. And I think that that
Speaker 1: tom also wanted the contract to contracted by That's what
Speaker 1: Chris Landry work for, to work for Bill Belichick put
Speaker 1: out on his podcast, and Belichick wanted to be born
Speaker 1: to here. So I think that Tommy feel like he
Speaker 1: was talking like he was shod for twenty for twenty
Speaker 1: rings and nine and nine and now I runs signed
Speaker 1: to do the super Bowl game, but a gain deserted
Speaker 1: a little bit more respect. I just think there's no
Speaker 1: blame nobla. I think Bill is gonna do things a
Speaker 1: way he wants, team has way he wants way, and
Speaker 1: I think it's great for Tom. For Tom, I think
Speaker 1: this is great for Bill. I think the relationship relates
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady. Brady has with Patton Manning also led
Speaker 1: into Tampa Bay because Bruce arians was with with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: Tom was the Patans and Pats of coaching cat respect.
Speaker 1: I don't really blame anybody. I think about twenty years,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. What Bill is not going
Speaker 1: to change change, you know, it's like Nick, say, Nick
Speaker 1: not going to change. Certain guy Tom land I remember
Speaker 1: reading about beating about Roger stab I a tour in
Speaker 1: when he was making his decision to retire, that he
Speaker 1: really wanted to call the player play. Ask Tom Landry,
Speaker 1: Hey can I call the play to Land? No, Roger.
Speaker 1: Some of these countries, man, Tad, these coaches are gonna
Speaker 1: do what they do and they're not going to change.
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's there's stay blame at all.
Speaker 1: So how about this going on that Tampa So we
Speaker 1: all know Tom Brady t V twelve, that's his whole brand,
Speaker 1: number twelve, number twelve. Chris Godwin, the excellent young white
Speaker 1: receiver at Tampa. It's number twelve or twelve, and he
Speaker 1: recently said in a radio number he entered, Hey I'm
Speaker 1: born twelve or my whole career. I'm married to this number.
Speaker 1: This is my number. So if you're Tom Brady, you
Speaker 1: guys both know because from former Cowboys players and didn't
Speaker 1: bury you with Adda Jackson. What is a number work?
Speaker 1: If Tom Brady wants to get the twelve from godwin
Speaker 1: from God, what do you think he has? I think
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coming, Brady, may be, come with all all
Speaker 1: to give me all that your wife making forty meals.
Speaker 1: I gotta come with the bread. Now, you gotta give
Speaker 1: me at least the meal for the number. I know
Speaker 1: he can afford it. I gotta get it, though, I
Speaker 1: got Yeah, I'm putting my agent in on these negotiations. Man,
Speaker 1: this is gonna cost Tom a lot like Chris. Chris
Speaker 1: God would have made his made his name and that
Speaker 1: number twelve, just like Tom Brady did, and he'll be
Speaker 1: making his name long after Tom Brady has retired. So
Speaker 1: that twelve is gonna cost Tom some money. Or maybe
Speaker 1: Tom says, hey, man, this is a new star for me,
Speaker 1: and uh and I just go ahead and steup to
Speaker 1: know the number. And I'm just going to be a
Speaker 1: team player. So what is a nine star? So if
Speaker 1: Tom comes with twenty five k is that a non starter?
Speaker 1: For the twelve where where not even close start not
Speaker 1: even not even close. It starts after half, it starts
Speaker 1: after half a Neil, I need at least five hundred
Speaker 1: on the table to begin talking. Cash really really can
Speaker 1: give me cash help me. I could be if it
Speaker 1: was if it was a guy coming in, you know,
Speaker 1: asking for the number, who didn't you know, make it
Speaker 1: much more like a came in there talking to guy
Speaker 1: when they let me get that number twoever or whatever,
Speaker 1: I could bring the price down. But when you got Brady,
Speaker 1: who's been making all this money for twenty years, his
Speaker 1: wife's making forty kicking affords the dropping bread or that
Speaker 1: number if he wants to buy a number. So so
Speaker 1: I half the bidding starts at a half billion dollars
Speaker 1: more to Okay, So so tell me this. When you
Speaker 1: guys from the Cowboys, the cow were their numbers bought
Speaker 1: and traded four eighty four? Uh, I'm trying to not
Speaker 1: that I know of yeah, not that I know, not
Speaker 1: that I'm uh no, it wasn't even know that were
Speaker 1: boughten traded, not that I know. Nah. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So I'm Brady, I'm gonna need that Bible at least
Speaker 1: look at snow. Doubt Chris Gott would have plated in
Speaker 1: a position, but I heard the nat get like, hey man,
Speaker 1: he's the goat, and you know, I'm just happy to
Speaker 1: have him here. You know, I wanted him to have twelve.
Speaker 1: He talked about how he was married through the twelve,
Speaker 1: and I said, this young man is very smart. He's
Speaker 1: a young man's putting it into position that it's gonna
Speaker 1: cost you condom. You and Tom apparently trademarked TV in
Speaker 1: T and B, so maybe he tried a different number.
Speaker 1: I know he won't number ten year Michigan. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be very interested exactly what happened with that number twelve,
Speaker 1: number twelve. So let's move for number twelfth and number four.
Speaker 1: Talking about Dak Prescott, Calvin Watkins to the Warning News
Speaker 1: and several other reporters. Clarence will start telegram and murder
Speaker 1: as we're saying that the Cowboys re open reopened up
Speaker 1: negotiation with Dak Prescott. Here we know he's going to
Speaker 1: be with the Cowboys in twenty twenty. Fellas, you give
Speaker 1: me your opinions on what you think could possibly get done.
Speaker 1: With dak on that franchise exclusive tack. McCree, I'll start
Speaker 1: her him, start with you. Oh man, they have teams fifteenth,
Speaker 1: he will be he will have more than Golf and
Speaker 1: more than Russell, and then my home is a takeover.
Speaker 1: But I think he gets that bill done before before
Speaker 1: the deadline and he has a long term deal before
Speaker 1: the season starts. For me, free agency is all about time, man.
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen players come into the free agencies
Speaker 1: who we know aren't worth the bill that they ended
Speaker 1: up getting, or worth to either money they ended up getting.
Speaker 1: But it's all about timing and when you're free. And
Speaker 1: right now he has franchise tag on him, But if
Speaker 1: he didn't, he'd be a free agent and he would be,
Speaker 1: you know, up to be slated at the highest pay
Speaker 1: guy in the league. And I think he'll end up
Speaker 1: getting that, you know, I think he'll go back to
Speaker 1: the contract negotiations. I believe July fifteet, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: is the deadline. If you don't have a long term
Speaker 1: contract by then, you have to be you have to
Speaker 1: play under the franchise attack. So I think he'll get
Speaker 1: it done before July fifteen. I just think it all
Speaker 1: comes down to gart will be guaranteed money, not just
Speaker 1: you know what you see going across the ticker at
Speaker 1: the bottom of Yes. Then I think it comes down
Speaker 1: to what you're fully guaranteed, Like when when Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: signed his contract, he was fully guaranteed eighty four million um.
Speaker 1: I believe when the quarterback of the Titan he fully
Speaker 1: guaranteed sixty two millions. So I think it comes down
Speaker 1: to the fully guarantees, and I think that will end up,
Speaker 1: you know, eclipsing you know, Russell Wilson, and then like
Speaker 1: mcraize said, I think my homes will come in and
Speaker 1: take it over from there. But it's all about timing
Speaker 1: and this is his time and he needs to be
Speaker 1: the highest pay. He's gone there improved that he's won
Speaker 1: it each you know, each year he's improved. So I
Speaker 1: think it's about tipping them making the highest stay guy
Speaker 1: Church Church and New he tells, tell me this dollars
Speaker 1: million dollars. I'm sorry, I couldn't hear the last part.
Speaker 1: I said. Kirk Cuttins recently got myself at two dollars
Speaker 1: two years, sixty million dollarllion dollars extension so he didn't
Speaker 1: getting paid here, I have a Kurts find. I mean
Speaker 1: the reson is light, but the law law I ain't mad,
Speaker 1: good old, good old country curt Man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He went from three straight franchises at the
Speaker 1: eighty four mile and did not get extended. I mean
Speaker 1: that dude. He did it right, man, he did it right,
Speaker 1: which is why I last hood cowboys with me were
Speaker 1: mad Dad. You know he stopping. But here's my thing,
Speaker 1: my thing on where did this contract on? He's going
Speaker 1: to going to go? And you guys have a you
Speaker 1: all understand the agent can because game Pop were dealing
Speaker 1: with dealing with the cowboys sat up there at the
Speaker 1: party at Oxtar, California, and I was there and I said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to set the market at the market.
Speaker 1: We want that we here we walked into the lesson.
Speaker 1: We can pay everybody that we're not going to set
Speaker 1: the market at the What happened with Zekiel They set
Speaker 1: the market made in the high state. Body. But Mark,
Speaker 1: you set the market at the market. What did you
Speaker 1: do and you had Travis French? You set the market first?
Speaker 1: What did you with Travis? You rentric at the dark
Speaker 1: You set the market at the market. What did you
Speaker 1: do with take horse? If it fits it in, you
Speaker 1: set the market. So how in the world do you
Speaker 1: think you can set the market all these spots to say,
Speaker 1: hey Dad, ain't no no, no market for you. You know,
Speaker 1: Todd Francs coming in. If Todd Francs agent does not
Speaker 1: set the market, he will get rolled by other They've
Speaker 1: been setting the market since Tony Romo. True, you got
Speaker 1: Romo t Smith set the market the market. Yeah, They've
Speaker 1: been setting the market since since I've been a cowboy.
Speaker 1: So I mean there's no reason to believe that when
Speaker 1: they said the market will be set. So I think
Speaker 1: you're on point Church. He's he's gonna fast Russell Church
Speaker 1: or Rogers. Yeah, I think he'll pass Russell Um. You know.
Speaker 1: I also think it comes down to how much the
Speaker 1: cowboys believe in it. I mean, like we've seen when
Speaker 1: Romo was up, he became the highest pay you know,
Speaker 1: the markets. Lawrence became the highest pay Like he just
Speaker 1: rattled off all the names that became the highest pay
Speaker 1: when it was their time they show up. So I
Speaker 1: think it just all comes down then how much the
Speaker 1: boys believe that he can be that franchise quarterback for
Speaker 1: the future. I believe he can be. Every year he's
Speaker 1: come in here, he's won, so I believe he could
Speaker 1: be that guy. But it just goes down to how
Speaker 1: much the Cowboys are willing to spend and have that
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And I think they'll make him the highest.
Speaker 1: I mean, if the smart move and it's just his
Speaker 1: time right now. Well, I'm a little sad. I'm a
Speaker 1: little sad that I won't be able to see. Huh,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a little sad that I won't be
Speaker 1: able to see if that was going to show up
Speaker 1: to these old tags or not with this franchise tag
Speaker 1: that has changed due to the coronavirus. But I was
Speaker 1: I was very interested to see if he was gonna
Speaker 1: show up and be the team player or he was
Speaker 1: gonna not show up and tell him pay me my
Speaker 1: money before I walk on this field. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you think he has that? Do you think he
Speaker 1: had that mentality where he's like, you know what, if
Speaker 1: don't give me this money, I'm not showing up, no money,
Speaker 1: no service. Do you think he asked that pay of mentality? Yes,
Speaker 1: money changes us all true? Well, Well, I mean go
Speaker 1: back and just spok. I mean, why why wouldn't one?
Speaker 1: And you've got ahead COVID who wants to put in
Speaker 1: one system? That's what you know, because this is now
Speaker 1: about applying Creussure from pressure. And so if you've got
Speaker 1: you know, you got Cooper rush taken and look take once,
Speaker 1: you know, you think that's what Jerry Jones WANs to
Speaker 1: look out there and see, and Mike McCarthy wants to
Speaker 1: look rush taken once. The staffing, the ones no, So
Speaker 1: this is one purely where where he'll go back to
Speaker 1: Jerry mc guire's not show Friends and show business. A
Speaker 1: Bob shoot was stopping. So I fully think that if
Speaker 1: we've team anything, Dak Prescott and his ex time friends
Speaker 1: have more than willing to sit around here and say
Speaker 1: let's bet on ourselves. So yeah, I don't think that
Speaker 1: that he you know, I think that he wouldn't set
Speaker 1: those old teams if you know, we didn't deal with
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen right now, and that's that's what you have
Speaker 1: to do, all right. We've got our last break to
Speaker 1: take here. Want to get back into a couple of
Speaker 1: three inches signs and I think are really importantly they're
Speaker 1: flying under the brain are You may not know their
Speaker 1: names and what they can do, but I really thought
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Speaker 1: All players Loud Layer on a Friday on the States,
Speaker 1: joined by Form Downward, Danny mccraiz, very change, very weird,
Speaker 1: live lives on first time here. Thanks to everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: and they're working on better, better for you. But we
Speaker 1: really knew that you you he was. He was free
Speaker 1: instance that I really like the cowboys that are going
Speaker 1: under the r under the radar. I love the fact
Speaker 1: that they brought and they brought in Marcus Market candidate.
Speaker 1: Here's the kid who who was the corn the corn.
Speaker 1: But he's a big big battle team Blake, Blake, better
Speaker 1: bring him over. Ringing can't the blocking example of battle teams?
Speaker 1: Guy Berry on it. I started off he was the
Speaker 1: cowgoys making that was mainly with you get from the
Speaker 1: cowboys like guys got and just get you back because
Speaker 1: cowboys la risk coms, categories, categories, they take got that
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Yeah, they got to improve on that, you know,
Speaker 1: they gotta got to be one of the biggest improvements
Speaker 1: they got to make. I mean, there's no way, um,
Speaker 1: their special teams should be should be costing you a game.
Speaker 1: And if we look at it that New England game
Speaker 1: up in New England, it kind of actually cost him
Speaker 1: the game and they had a black punt and that
Speaker 1: was the only touchdown result of the game. So your
Speaker 1: special teams should never cost you a game. So I
Speaker 1: definitely think this is one of the areas that they
Speaker 1: need to make improvements on. Uh, they had TJ Goodwin
Speaker 1: out there, who was on the show early on, but
Speaker 1: he was one of the top special teams guys, So
Speaker 1: I like, just bring it back like they did. They
Speaker 1: they did, They brought him back. They brought it back.
Speaker 1: Okay cool, ye okay great. So they tried him back
Speaker 1: and then you got you have Blake Bell like you said,
Speaker 1: and I forget the other name you said, but those
Speaker 1: guys are all kind of that team nourris candidate. Those
Speaker 1: are three core special teams guys that you gotta had
Speaker 1: that can get those other guys, you know, get the
Speaker 1: special teams guys going get to motivated. Like for us,
Speaker 1: it was Danny and he was out there, you know,
Speaker 1: motivating all the guys to get rolling. And we had
Speaker 1: one of the top secial teams unit at while we
Speaker 1: were there with the doll count. But you gotta have
Speaker 1: that one bell count, that one figurehead other special teams
Speaker 1: that get everything rolling. Hopefully one of these guys could
Speaker 1: beat that guy and it could turn the special team
Speaker 1: unit around because the last year it was downright terrible.
Speaker 1: And they need a new philosophy and a new type
Speaker 1: of scheme to get going on special teams. And I
Speaker 1: think they have that with the new coach and bringing
Speaker 1: in these core special teams guys. Yeah. I love the move.
Speaker 1: We've been calling for this for a couple of years
Speaker 1: now for them to bring guys in similar to the Patriots.
Speaker 1: You know three or four guys that come in and
Speaker 1: they are just known for doing special teams. When they
Speaker 1: are practice, all they have to think about the special
Speaker 1: teams and the same in the game. And they have
Speaker 1: three now, So they got they have a tight end.
Speaker 1: They got candidate, and they have a good one and
Speaker 1: then hopefully in the draft or with one of these
Speaker 1: free agent rookies, they'll find the fourth and I think
Speaker 1: they'll be set the goal. I think this is a
Speaker 1: great move. They're going in the right direction. And you
Speaker 1: know me as a supposed to be player, I'm excited
Speaker 1: for the guys that they brought in a play special
Speaker 1: teams dar Area and the dying another guy, another guy
Speaker 1: who went the spot one of them sucking teams tacklers
Speaker 1: last years, the Cowboys leaving me that category coming back
Speaker 1: as well, bringing it but bringing it own spot at
Speaker 1: the special teams code. You play, se replay Queen Quinn,
Speaker 1: you've got you got your guy here. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Bring it the guys bringing the guy like Gards one
Speaker 1: of the guards, one of the best special cucial game coaches.
Speaker 1: Don't give it to get to play and play. Give
Speaker 1: it the guys who we ever wanted to be out
Speaker 1: there any good at least slightly like a lot and
Speaker 1: they're trying what they're trying to do, and so while
Speaker 1: looking me for looking to create the thing, and they're
Speaker 1: looking at the big Thames to the Cowboys sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: a lot of guysctively just hilarious different areas because it
Speaker 1: pulled your football from Cowboys and Cowboys your team about believe.
Speaker 1: I believe that the one to one and you get
Speaker 1: to you this year that it's been afit better time
Speaker 1: one time because they were going in and going again
Speaker 1: to get when they were they were gonna be going
Speaker 1: three things every single every single week. Yes on some
Speaker 1: one on bonehead mistakes like I can't get over this
Speaker 1: table on Austin fair catch thing that was absolutely nuts
Speaker 1: and and that's just something that we just got we
Speaker 1: just got to get out of our head and I
Speaker 1: just can't. It's just it's just bad. And like Barry
Speaker 1: brought up earlier, the block pump for for New England,
Speaker 1: it's like these these things can't happen, and you can't
Speaker 1: go in limping in on special teams. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be the game changer in a positive way. If you
Speaker 1: don't mention special teams, you're good. If you mention them,
Speaker 1: you only want to mention them in a good way.
Speaker 1: When you mentioned in a bad way, it's horrible for
Speaker 1: the coaches, the players, and most of the time you
Speaker 1: lose the game when you make one of those crucial
Speaker 1: errors on special teams. Well, I think we y'all think
Speaker 1: we all agree, and I know that I knew they
Speaker 1: would wait for Ryde, which you're and they and they
Speaker 1: ask them some early early WHI but the take on
Speaker 1: came on office now it was not good at all,
Speaker 1: but you know that that that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: Exactly where they end up in some fixing. Priticular return
Speaker 1: of the area there to go was not what they're
Speaker 1: working there, all right, So since we're having to stay
Speaker 1: inside a whole lot here, as you just said to
Speaker 1: behind me, I got a bunk. I'm a big I'm
Speaker 1: a big reader. Here here's the book I got in
Speaker 1: that I got in here I called album things by
Speaker 1: Paper on Muhammad on Muhammad Alike biography and and I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I'll say this or a fan of Alia
Speaker 1: this book of his book. I'm a big fan, big
Speaker 1: than to be dying. I died biography when you just
Speaker 1: really go, really go vallew a social lifestone. I read
Speaker 1: that really want to like I'm rolling laid Money and
Speaker 1: the Lives of will Relate Co wrote with Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: I tell you I got your You've got time right now,
Speaker 1: Si safel fat, I have to take you take your
Speaker 1: definitely have the e the grad have that book on.
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm huge into side far reading. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I just gotta love Side far
Speaker 1: reading as well as Stephen King books. But I'm a
Speaker 1: book I'm all right now. It's called The expanse Um.
Speaker 1: It's like a I think it's an eighth book series
Speaker 1: and it's about you know, they basically the Earth and
Speaker 1: making our colonies on the moon and all Jupiter's moons
Speaker 1: and battling for the stars and got like gal like too.
Speaker 1: So if you like stuff like that, the experience and
Speaker 1: the huge franchise you need to get into. It's also
Speaker 1: a show on Amazon Prime now. But if you like
Speaker 1: reading instead, that's it's huge you that you need to
Speaker 1: copy or to get going if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: sci fi reader like myself, So the expanse and then
Speaker 1: check it out to get a chance. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna love to y'all. I'm I'm a big TV watcher,
Speaker 1: so all the stuff that y'all read, I'll just go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'll just watch it, right, So zero zero zero on
Speaker 1: Amazon Amazing, and then of course season three of Ozarks
Speaker 1: back out, so that's taking all my reading time. But
Speaker 1: NEWI I love a LEI. I've watched every documentary that
Speaker 1: they had, so that might be one of the books
Speaker 1: that I pick up and go check out. I tell
Speaker 1: you what it is. It is and unlike him like this,
Speaker 1: dis than any of the doctor either. That's why I
Speaker 1: read that I recommended here. It goes back to the name,
Speaker 1: the name of Clay. His riginal name is Cassius Clay.
Speaker 1: They go back to how they were descended, that there
Speaker 1: were slaves and descendants of Henry Clay, who was a big,
Speaker 1: big time politician out of Kentucky. So um, it's it's
Speaker 1: really really good and just dives into a relationship with
Speaker 1: his father that I did not know about here, and
Speaker 1: how his father was abusive, how the police had come
Speaker 1: over there when they were being raised, his boys, he
Speaker 1: and his brother, and how the relationship that he had
Speaker 1: with his mom. And he was really fascinating to learn
Speaker 1: some of these things about the atmosphere and the home
Speaker 1: life that that Ali came from. So I cannot recommend
Speaker 1: this book enough because he just I've just learned him
Speaker 1: so many more things that I just didn't know about
Speaker 1: the young man and us back. That's why they're long.
Speaker 1: I tell people they're long. And if you could do
Speaker 1: twenty I say, do twenty five pages a day or
Speaker 1: a chapter and you're gonna find out in the whole month,
Speaker 1: you're gonna knock out a book. But when people look
Speaker 1: at these big books like this, it's it's five hundred
Speaker 1: pages and he's like, man, I can't I can't possibly
Speaker 1: read it. Well, you don't have to read it all
Speaker 1: in one setting, but that's what you do. And when
Speaker 1: it's that book, that book is that big um that
Speaker 1: great play that Lynn Manuel Marana uh the Lennon Manuel
Speaker 1: Miranda did um Hamilton he read. He read the big
Speaker 1: thick biography of Alexander Hamilton. If that's where he got
Speaker 1: the inspiration from the play. So I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: if you invest in something like this and a little
Speaker 1: bit of time over a month, man, you're gonna find
Speaker 1: yourself smarter. But also you're just gonna find how much
Speaker 1: you really know about someone. And you just say, man,
Speaker 1: I mean as great as Ali was. I mean, one
Speaker 1: of the things I found out early on when he
Speaker 1: was training, he was really the first person to take
Speaker 1: a T took a white T shirt and in read
Speaker 1: letters he put Ali on the front. He kind of
Speaker 1: started self promotion for boxing. You know, he was the
Speaker 1: first guy to do that. Yeah, Yeah, And how I
Speaker 1: did not know that he was dex lexing. They talked
Speaker 1: about that how he had so many problems in school
Speaker 1: and that he technically was about to not get his
Speaker 1: high school diploma, that he spent most of his junior
Speaker 1: senior years missing class at high school and rule Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And when it came time down of graduation, there were
Speaker 1: teachers who did not want to pass him, like he
Speaker 1: does not deserve to pass. His grades aren't any good,
Speaker 1: he hadn't been here. And the principal came in there
Speaker 1: and said, no, we think Cassius Clay could end up
Speaker 1: being a very famous boxer, so we're going to get
Speaker 1: him a degree because it's going to make the school
Speaker 1: look good. So he overruled his teachers and Cassius Clay
Speaker 1: getting his high school diploma. And it was a certificate
Speaker 1: of attendance, so it was the lowest one you could get.
Speaker 1: But they barely passed the guy. But the principle was
Speaker 1: right because a year and a half later, the guy
Speaker 1: goes to Rome and ends up winning a go all metals.
Speaker 1: So you graduating fifty nine in the nineteen sixty becomes
Speaker 1: the Olympic champion. So so they were right. About that
Speaker 1: in terms. The principal was he was smart. But it's
Speaker 1: stuff like that and reading the book that I was
Speaker 1: sitting here like, man, okay, this is pretty cool as
Speaker 1: we look at really one of the great one of
Speaker 1: the great heavyweight champions of all time, a great, great sportsman.
Speaker 1: I mean you just think about, you know, personalities, and
Speaker 1: then how you line up Jack Johnson and Muhammad Ali
Speaker 1: and how much he related to Jack Johnson, a former heavyweight,
Speaker 1: first ever black heavyweight champion who's from Easton. So it's
Speaker 1: a good book, man. I can't recommend it enough. And
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm really about a quarter page through.
Speaker 1: I read one one chapter about him in the bicycle
Speaker 1: how he got started boxing. Of my daughter, she was
Speaker 1: really into it. So now she's this big Muhammad Alif fan.
Speaker 1: I know. You guys got you know, I know, Beary,
Speaker 1: you've got young kids. But you get to a point
Speaker 1: in time, I mean, that's what you do, man. You
Speaker 1: start just kind of reading things like this to them
Speaker 1: so you can kind of tell them about history so
Speaker 1: they can have a better understanding of, you know, what's
Speaker 1: going on around it. But my kids, my eight year
Speaker 1: was a big Ali fan. That's pretty cool right there. Now,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. One quick question, know, so if the
Speaker 1: NFL does end up having the draft coming up, like
Speaker 1: they I think the twenty third or twenty fifth or
Speaker 1: something like that, how do you think they do that?
Speaker 1: Do you think they do it where it's just kind
Speaker 1: of like over TV A, you know how like they
Speaker 1: do the round four though six of a just stay
Speaker 1: a name and they don't really have anybody come walking
Speaker 1: on the stage or anything like that. How do you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do that? Well, the device challenge, guys,
Speaker 1: you can get but you know what, somehow I'm up
Speaker 1: here doing this, So they're gonna Yeah, so the age,
Speaker 1: the smart agents are gonna find a way to make
Speaker 1: sure that their guys are you know, doing doing what
Speaker 1: we're doing here on a device somewhere where people can
Speaker 1: talk to them. And Plus, man, these young guys, these
Speaker 1: these young kids in college. Man, they're already doing this
Speaker 1: FaceTime stuff already. So I think we're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff like that. You're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of remote cameras in places. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I'm doing over the Channel five here is it can
Speaker 1: take we got it now where we can just have
Speaker 1: somebody walk outside. They don't have to touch anything at all.
Speaker 1: We just set up the camera. They can be six
Speaker 1: feet away and we could do interviews like that. So
Speaker 1: I've been doing that this week with several folks. So
Speaker 1: there's gonna be ways that the NFL can make some
Speaker 1: adjustments that they can still have on the war rooms,
Speaker 1: that they could have gems and head coaches interview and
Speaker 1: players as well. And he has to be an NFL network.
Speaker 1: There's some recent ways that they could get created and
Speaker 1: still have a makeshift draft and guess what, it's National
Speaker 1: Football League. So they're gonna get an audience no matter what.
Speaker 1: It may not be what we've seen in the past
Speaker 1: and dialed up, but you know what, right now, the
Speaker 1: ways to Sports World is going. We're gonna watch because
Speaker 1: there ain't nothing else to watch. Hey, did we sign
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown? Say again, mc craig, again, did we signed
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown? I believe I saw that on Twitter this morning,
Speaker 1: right before we got on the show. I can't check
Speaker 1: it now, but I believe I saw that we signed
Speaker 1: him to like a three year, fifteen million dollars deal
Speaker 1: something like that. Anthony Brown. Yeah, abe at cornerback. Yeah
Speaker 1: it fifteen. Yeah, so we got we got one of
Speaker 1: the corner positions taking care of our see. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: they got look at seventeen to found the Cowboys. Right now,
Speaker 1: right now, they don't make any other movie. I'm taking
Speaker 1: a corner at the corner, Mike Nolan if he has
Speaker 1: one good If no one has one good cornerback, he
Speaker 1: can work with the other. I talked to someone who
Speaker 1: used to work with him and coach with him, and
Speaker 1: he told me that that's he said. They just need
Speaker 1: to make sure they get one solid guy. And his
Speaker 1: first also told me he thought that Cheeto Whosi it
Speaker 1: probably would be better used as a safety more so
Speaker 1: than a corner. So interested to see how that goes.
Speaker 1: I don't through this Byron Jones experiment again, man, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, this is what this person told me. Well,
Speaker 1: right now, they're gonna leave in the corner because they
Speaker 1: ain't got no that's what they're gonna do. So but
Speaker 1: it was just something that somebody had had had run
Speaker 1: past me. But obviously Cheeto and Jordan Bell are going
Speaker 1: to be up after the season, so I expect the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to be heavily into the defensive back market between
Speaker 1: corners and safeties in this drast I just think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a defensive draft all day long. And
Speaker 1: if they go offense, the only thing you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: go for is a a a swing tackle here. But
Speaker 1: I really expect to see a lot of defense from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when the drafting starts April twenty third. To
Speaker 1: the tourrent bit, we had Randy to agree with you did?
Speaker 1: We had Randy Gregory as a as another pass rusher.
Speaker 1: He's reinstated. If reinstated, I expect him on this team
Speaker 1: and he can provide some debt and with the way
Speaker 1: things have gone, with the way things have gone around here,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to replace Quinn, you know, if you
Speaker 1: patch it together with you know, Tylan Crawford coming back
Speaker 1: healthy and Randy Gregory there and maybe what else you
Speaker 1: get in the draft, you know, you piece meal together.
Speaker 1: You know you can do it that way. Look, it's
Speaker 1: I just think overall this team is going to have
Speaker 1: a better are coaching staff started for the head coach
Speaker 1: on down and I just believe that if if they
Speaker 1: are what we think they are, they not knowing has
Speaker 1: been in the past and what Mike McCarthy has been
Speaker 1: in the past the Cowboys, they'll be fine if they
Speaker 1: improved the special team. If there's a lot of ways
Speaker 1: that this team lost some games here, I believe it
Speaker 1: was straight upon coach. I thought Garrett got out coached
Speaker 1: a lot during his ten years with the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: I just believe having Mike McCarthy and if these guys
Speaker 1: could get enough time together, they should they should be
Speaker 1: an improved team. They should be an improved team, and
Speaker 1: they should be able to win two more games than
Speaker 1: they won last year. I agree with I think from
Speaker 1: what you said the coach at that this year, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a lot stronger than it was last year.
Speaker 1: And if you look back, I mean, look at that
Speaker 1: Minnesota game where I mean some of the playing call
Speaker 1: in tours the end of that game to the car,
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk the New England game with Cecil teams.
Speaker 1: So I think we'll get at least one or two
Speaker 1: more victories just on coaching alone, and hopefully that will
Speaker 1: be enough to get it to the playoff this year.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yeah, I think it would be fine.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry's expecting more than one or two more wins,
Speaker 1: but he'll be happy as long as run the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Hey look, if you can't, you know, you see where
Speaker 1: you're in here will take it to the Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: about trying to win the division with the Giants Avenue
Speaker 1: head coach. Washington's got a new head coach. Philadelphia has
Speaker 1: got to maybe a little bit of advantage since they
Speaker 1: they're gonna return, you know their coaching staff and guys
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. But I just think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they still have a lot of good players
Speaker 1: here that you still have a window gets opened right now.
Speaker 1: And if Dak Prescott gets better coaching, which I think
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy heck of a better head coach than Jason Garret,
Speaker 1: I think we'll see see dat Prescott be a better player,
Speaker 1: and I think it's sell Elliot will be a new
Speaker 1: schol So I think we're making a bigger deal out
Speaker 1: of who's not here, but people should really be a
Speaker 1: little bit more impressed and how good of a head
Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy is. I know everybody loves Sean Payton
Speaker 1: because they obviously know Sean pat from his time with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys here, but Mike McCarthy is just as good
Speaker 1: as Sean Payton is in terms of winning percentage, having
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Uh, it's damn good coach. I something
Speaker 1: people talking about enough because I know I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, some way, Sean's been more affable in the media,
Speaker 1: but McCarthy's McCarthy's touching good man that they got them
Speaker 1: Sally good coaching. All right, it's it's it's an hour,
Speaker 1: it's flown by already. It's good to have a players
Speaker 1: lash together here here now that we know how to
Speaker 1: do this will improve on working from home a little bit.
Speaker 1: And maybe since we're getting closer, goes to the draft
Speaker 1: and then we can do more than just one show
Speaker 1: on a Friday, So maybe we mix in a couple
Speaker 1: of shows during the week here because I like this.
Speaker 1: I like sitting in my house just doing this from here.
Speaker 1: So you know, and and and Danny, if I can
Speaker 1: get you away from you possibly not not eating too
Speaker 1: much with you with the miss is here who's pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know, I want you to gain that weight like
Speaker 1: I did. Man, I got I am, I am on
Speaker 1: my way to the trail right now. I'm going to run. Look,
Speaker 1: I got my look I look, I got I got
Speaker 1: my uniform. I'm on now, ma, I got my tights
Speaker 1: and everything. I'm going to run, all right. Good stuff,
Speaker 1: good stuff. Danny mccraig, Barry Church, Nui Scruggs. This is
Speaker 1: the players last. Thank you so much for taking time
Speaker 1: to plug us in. And we will be back on Friday,
Speaker 1: and you know, and maybe back early next week too.
Speaker 1: Here we'll keep you plugged in, all right, everybody appreciate it.
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