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Speaker 1: we're fresh off our tour and we're back chatting with

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Speaker 1: you about premiere of season four. It feels like it's

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Speaker 1: been a minute since we don't know yes, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: So it's the same deep Water as you. Air date

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Speaker 1: September thousand six. The synopsis is the aftermath of the

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Speaker 1: post wedding car accident unfolds. While Hayley is deeply affected

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Speaker 1: pressured by the fact that someone might know he killed

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Speaker 1: his brother Dan assault step Oh good to know he

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Speaker 1: had a reason. I was about to say, what a

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Speaker 1: terrible write up. I don't know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: a justification there? Who did this? Right? Up? Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: some tried and true themes here. Okay, one tree Hill

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Speaker 1: every single month in every' here here, Like but this

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. And then she know, she gets

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00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: in with Lucas and a lot of those old feelings resurface,

427
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: but it was it seemed like they were actually it

428
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: was just a deeper level of the same feeling. So

429
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: she had sort of eradicated this like top layer of

430
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: um easy to access feelings and issues with guys like Felix,

431
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: and then with Lucas that was like the really deep

432
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, those are the roots of the

433
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: things that actually keep growing up and creating problems. And

434
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: so it was like an opportunity for her to really

435
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: dig down and like pop that root out. For those

436
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: of you at home, you can't see I'm shoveling my

437
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: minding a shop that we're we're talking about digging up

438
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 1: bulls here. I like him talking in that scene because

439
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: because Okay, Brooke has had this conversation with Lucas how

440
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: many times now, like a half a dozen times at least,

441
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: if not a dozen, And by Chad having that voice

442
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: over in that scene to me as the viewer and

443
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: informed me that every single time Brooke has given him

444
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: one of these speeches, he's got his own voice in

445
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: his head and he's not listening to her. He's just like,

446
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: how do I get out of this? It seems like

447
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: a lot. Why can't she just be cool? Like, oh no,

448
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: I've messed up again? Brow Um, I think, but I

449
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: think that's how boys work. I know, like that's how

450
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: my kid works, that's how my husband works. It's just like,

451
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: are you hearing what I'm saying? We're not going to

452
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: buy any more Amazon packages, Like I'm not gonna have

453
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: to deal with this again. Yes, And they say. It's

454
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: like Lucas at the end, like I'm sorry. It's the

455
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: only thing they can just say, I'm sorry. And you

456
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: know they don't hear us. Maybe you don't hear us, okay,

457
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: which is that's I think I think Lucas did. I

458
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: think that's you're right. That's what was nice about that

459
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: voice over, because he did hear her at the end.

460
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, I hear what you're saying. What

461
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: you've been saying this whole time, and I guess you're right.

462
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: It finally clicked that he was like, Okay, I guess

463
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing else for me to stay here. I can't

464
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: keep fighting the same battle. Yeah. Well, have you ever

465
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: liked someone and then they've they've had to tell you like, hey,

466
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I know you think you like me? Um, you don't

467
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: like that's a weird interaction. Yeah. Yeah. Well, And by

468
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: the way, we've talked about this, like as kids being

469
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: so isolated. You know, Hillary you said in one of

470
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: our episodes when you were like where everybody was kissing

471
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: each other whatever, Like we joke about it, but there

472
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: is a real reality that when you grow up in

473
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: a small town or when you spend ten years in

474
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: a really small town like we all did together. You're

475
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: only around this small handful of people that you're around.

476
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: So it's why it's like, you know, you hear people

477
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: on Facebook talking about like, oh, well, you know, so

478
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: and so wound up married to that guy. But you

479
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: remember in high school she dated this guy and he

480
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: was with her sister, but they he's married to. Like

481
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: it's a very common thing in a small place. You

482
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: just have this tiny pool and so what what what

483
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: strikes me now is looking at Brooke and Lucas in

484
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: this breakup, because she's standing up for herself and her worth,

485
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: but also saying like you just don't care about me

486
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: in the way you think you do and I deserve better,

487
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: and like I'm not even gonna blame you for it.

488
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm just going to be done. What I think is

489
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: interesting about it is it it kind of like models

490
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: how to have a healthy interaction when you kind of

491
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: fall in love with one of your best friends and

492
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: you try to date and then you go, you know what,

493
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: I love you so much. We're better as friends and

494
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: it's cool, like people do that and because who else

495
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: are you going to try? And Dave, I know, but

496
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: like truly, I you know, and obviously, look it's a

497
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: teen drama. There's going to be drama that comes in

498
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: the coming episodes. But it is nice when we get

499
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: to model like decent human interaction and just be like,

500
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: it's cool. You know, when you love somebody, sometimes you

501
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: give it a try and if it doesn't work out,

502
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: move on and be nice to each other. Like how lovely.

503
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Such a nice interaction for high schoolers when when there

504
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: is usually so much drama. I mean high schoolers, people

505
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: in their twenties. My god, don't we have friends going

506
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: through Even Still, I can see why Lucas is attracted

507
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: to Brooke, particularly because of this frankness, because we see

508
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: the exact same um personality in his mother, who has

509
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: to have this very awkward interaction with Dan, who handles

510
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: it clearly and with grace, and she's like, I do

511
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: not want to have coffee with you because I am

512
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: giving up coffee in my pregnancy. And I do not

513
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: want to see a movie with you because I do

514
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: not want to spend time with you. And I'm not

515
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: going to be a bit I'm not going to kick

516
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: and scream. I'm just going to say it clearly to

517
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: your face. You can absorb it however you want. And

518
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: to see the parallel between Brooke and Karen is great.

519
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: Karen was so clear and so it was you know

520
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: Dan looking It was just it was so easy to

521
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: see through him looking for friendship in her. And I

522
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: love that she saw straight through it. Yeah, because he

523
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: goes to strangle his wife five minutes later. Yeah, she

524
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: knows who he is. And what I really love is

525
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: that she sees through him in this moment of vulnerability

526
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: where any of us would excuse her leaning on him

527
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: first port not knowing what he's doing to dib you know,

528
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: like you if they did that storyline, you'd get it.

529
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: But she stands up and says, no, thank you, I

530
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: know you. And then at the end of the episode

531
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 1: is so vulnerable with Lucas. I don't I didn't remember

532
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: hearing that when he said, how did you get over

533
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: it that he didn't love you? And she said, I'll

534
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: let you know when I do. MU like that took

535
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: my breath away to be able to be so frank

536
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: about how a heartbreak of that nature, like a betrayal

537
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: that deep, is something you don't get over. It changes you.

538
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: And then there's the before in the after, and and

539
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: it's continually thrown in her face. That's the thing. I mean,

540
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: it might be easier to get over if you could

541
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: really walk away and never see the person again and

542
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: move on with your life and have any experiences. But

543
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: it's just thrown in her face every single day. And

544
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: even though she knows it's not her, it's he's a psychopath,

545
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: it's still there's just something about not being acknowledged, not

546
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: being told like, hey, good job, Hey I appreciate you, Hey,

547
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm here to help all of those things. I mean, yeah,

548
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: that's it's hard to just get over, Like, how do

549
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: you just get over it? You can't. And when it's

550
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: continually thrown in her face, when it's continually brought up,

551
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: when it's when it's shoved at her all the time

552
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: for twenty years, and no matter how she reacts to it,

553
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: people tell her she's reacting wrong. It's a it's a

554
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: wild thing to put on somebody. And you know what else,

555
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: when you're the type of person that continually gives people

556
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. I because I'm one of

557
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: those people, and I M hmm, it's it can be

558
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: exhausting when dealing with people who I know are going

559
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: to uh let me down as the wrong word because

560
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, the concept of expectations and relationships is big,

561
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: but who I know. The choice they're gonna make, they

562
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: always make the same choice. It's always going to be

563
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. And yet I'm still I'm still surprised

564
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: when it happens, because because you can't just let it go,

565
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: you still are like maybe this time. Well, the thing

566
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: is you can't let something go that is continually coming

567
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: for you, that is forcing you to engage with it,

568
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: even when you say I don't want to engage with

569
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: this anymore, and it continues to happen. What I think

570
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: is frustrating. And I know we all have personal experience

571
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: with this is Look, we're frank, we're blunt, We've learned lessons,

572
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: we share about them. We have a podcast like that,

573
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: this is what we do. Hello, that's why we're here.

574
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: But then when you when you continually get engaged with

575
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: on a subject that you want to move on from,

576
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: and then every time you try to, well, I'll tell

577
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: a joke about out it, or maybe I'll offer a

578
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: nugget of wisdom, or maybe you know, I'll say, like

579
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: why are you really talking about this? And no matter

580
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: what they tell you, the answer is wrong. That's hard.

581
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: And so what I think is really cool about this

582
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: is you get to see it with Karen. So often

583
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: it's her having to deal with Dan, and it's she

584
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: has to react to him, she has to put him

585
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: in his place, she has to rebut his advances. But

586
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: that's why I think that this scene with her and

587
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Lucas is so cool. Because Dan's not there, Lucas actually

588
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: gets to be the safe space for her to say,

589
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: oh no, that changed me forever, and and and the

590
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: unsaid thing. But that is in Moira's performance because she's

591
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: such a good actress. Is I will not like, yes,

592
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: it hurt me, but like I've drawn a boundary and

593
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: it's so yeah, I'm not trying to fix it anymore.

594
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: Go yeah, it's cool. Hard things to do. Do you

595
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: wonder if there were years when Lucas was like three

596
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: four years old, were thought maybe she could still fix it,

597
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? We don't pick up

598
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: in the story until the kids are what sixteen years old,

599
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: and so there's there's a lot inferred in that statement

600
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: because it's not like he ditched her at eighteen and

601
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: she never cared again, you know, like, yeah, it requires

602
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of vulnerability to live in that space of

603
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: just letting a problem exist and continue to exist. You

604
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: know what's wild about what you're saying. And I've never

605
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: thought about this before, but we're kind of being offered

606
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: a version of that, Like, look back at what it

607
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: might have felt like for Karen at seventeen to have

608
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: this happened to her. With how Rachel feels with Cooper,

609
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you see the seventeen year old girl. Anything I can

610
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: do to keep you? Isn't there anything any thing I

611
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: can't live without you? Like, oh my god. Yeah. I

612
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about Daniel too in this because she

613
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: had finally she's finally been given some like real meat

614
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: on the bones in this show, whereas she's been expected

615
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: to do a lot of standing around and being pretty

616
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: and snarky and you know, having a few meaningful sincere conversations,

617
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: but she's never been given the challenge of just really

618
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: coming undone beautiful. It is. It is, and she's so

619
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: because we've we've praised her for all of her skill

620
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: in those other areas, and it's just so nice to

621
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: see the full roundedness of her abilities and in the

622
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: vulnerability and in this performance, I mean, her breakdown is

623
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: so beautiful and that that like raw heartache. To be

624
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: vulnerable like that with someone, it's such a special thing

625
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: to watch. And yeah, it's it's so gorgeous, and she

626
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: feels more like an actual teenager then she's ever felt

627
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: like you see the reveal, you see why Cooper believed

628
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: that she was twenty six, and you see it, she's

629
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: just seventeen, little girl. Anything is supposed to illustrate why

630
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: teenagers should not be dating grown ups. It is this

631
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: like it is because you are not your brain isn't

632
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: in the same place. Because for her, it is apocalyptic

633
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: to be dune and he is so you know, you

634
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: get older and you realize that all the things you

635
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: thought we're gonna kill you aren't gonna kill you anymore.

636
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: And so for him, he's like a breakup. Okay, like

637
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: we're good, um, And yeah, this is don't date grown ups. Kids,

638
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: don't do that because it's so messy and you will

639
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: be sad, you will, it's gonna go sideways. Yeah, what

640
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I love is as messy as that is, and as

641
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: as beautifully as she played that with him. I love

642
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: that the the parallels of these breakups that they're going

643
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: through or what finally let the Brachel of it. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: that's where I was going Nextel I love it storming

645
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: into the room and talking about how horrible the hospital

646
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: gowns there. We're gonna fix everything, and here's your keys,

647
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: and I got you some clothes, and I was like, oh,

648
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: I missed this. These two are so fun together. You know.

649
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: Rachel asked a question to Brook in that room that

650
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting. Do you think people can

651
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: really change? And I don't know. I thought we should

652
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: talk about that because I do. But I guess we

653
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: have to define change. I mean, I think some people

654
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: can just the same way to change, mean though, like

655
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: just changing your behavior is it? Like? But I mean,

656
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: you're always gonna if you're good at math, you're always

657
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: going to be good at math. It's not like, like,

658
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: what are the things the fundamental things that people are

659
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: referring to when they say change. Well, you know who

660
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: I think really answers that question beautifully as mouth because

661
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: here's what we know. Look, we were alive at a

662
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: time where we've got you know, this this generation of

663
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: all this incredible research and mental health data, and we

664
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: understand trauma and even how it can be passed down

665
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: in our d n A. You know, like we now

666
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: have proof of a lot of the things people have

667
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: felt and mouth says it. He says, you can only change,

668
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: but by facing what you've done. You really have to

669
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: look at the things you carry shame about or the

670
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: people that you've hurt, and you have to be willing

671
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: to go back into those actions, back into the behaviors

672
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: that you want to change in yourself and own. But

673
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: by the way, not only how you might have heard

674
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: other people or let yourself down, you also have to

675
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: forgive yourself. Like it's a it's a total kind of

676
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: excavation that's required. And when you go back and you

677
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: unravel the hauntings, when you go back and you see

678
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: why you were trying to be validated in the way

679
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: you were because you had a pain point. When you

680
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: go back and you really untangled or not, you can

681
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: move forward and have different reactions, not be triggered, not

682
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: use the same crutches. You know. It's it's like it's

683
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: like for people who get sober, it requires a lot

684
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: of untangling and then you can live differently and I

685
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: I love that Mouth is like our little oracle in

686
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: this episode, because Brooke has told Lucas what she needs different,

687
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: what she needs to be different in their relationship, and

688
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: he hasn't changed. So she's speaking from her own pain

689
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: point of like, yeah, I kind of thought you could,

690
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: but I don't think so, And she doesn't quite know

691
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: what Rachel is asking. She doesn't know Rachel's asking can

692
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: I change? Can I be better? And Mouth it seems

693
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: to me, really sees through it and says like, look,

694
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: you either do the work and then you can do

695
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want, or you don't and you'll repeat your

696
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: mistakes forever. Yeah. Yeah, because he was saying you can change,

697
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: it's just that most people don't. Most people aren't willing

698
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: to do the work. They run from the work. And

699
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: he says, don't don't run. Its rippling. I mean, it

700
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: is crippling that work. It's so scary, it's terrifying. It's

701
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: no joke. But if you're going to like actually make

702
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: a dent in character flaws that are rooted from childhood,

703
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: by scary, but you really you have to be willing

704
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: to look at the ways you haven't measured up to

705
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: your goals. Or standards. You have to be willing, you know, listen,

706
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Like we talked about this as women and what we

707
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: went through, like when when women have to go, how

708
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: how did I in my own actions? You know, how

709
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: have we collectively? How have we upheld patriarchy? Like how

710
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: have we as women upheld the systems that hurt us

711
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: as women? And how do we excuse them? Like that's

712
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: not easy. It's why so many people continue to say no, no, no,

713
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: This thing that I do is the solution. This you know,

714
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: this institution that I'm a part of is the fixer.

715
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: It's like, so in a way, we have to do this.

716
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: We have to do that work you're talking about on

717
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: a personal level, and we have to be willing to

718
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: understand the way that our personal behavior and the behavior

719
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: of our communities has to do it on a systemic level.

720
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: And like that is a challenge when people are tired

721
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: and just trying to figure out, like how to pay

722
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: the rent and put food on the table, Like it's

723
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: a lot the change comes from from has to come

724
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: from a sincere desire and it's not just because somebody

725
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: tells you to do it. And I think you nailed

726
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: it with having to forgive yourself too, and you know,

727
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: being able to look back and that's a that's a

728
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: big bite to take. Yeah, this is why I still

729
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: am on team Senator Marvin McFadden. You know, you know

730
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: he's always known things. I like that we saw more

731
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: of the boys in this episode. You can see that

732
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: they're going to populate our world more with the River

733
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: Cork guys. His mouth is here, Skills is now asking

734
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: to be on the basketball team. We've got junk with

735
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: the shaved head. What what the hell was another job?

736
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: What job did Colin have over the summer two thousand six?

737
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Colin Moss? Someone tells us what he was up to.

738
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: I like that they're doing that. You know, so many

739
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: of our problems have been so adult and when we're

740
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: all together as kids, like we know that we only

741
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: have what two seasons of it left of like being kids.

742
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Was Skills not at the wedding? Was he not there?

743
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Because he comes in and talk to Lucas and it's

744
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: all like heard through Bevan, heard through Bevan. Oh yeah,

745
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: why wasn't he at the wedding? I don't know. Antoine

746
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: might have been working on something too. Sometimes it's just

747
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: scheduling stuff you know, Yeah, I wonder if he had

748
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: a job at the end of season three. Also, I'm

749
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: so excited that we're going to get skills more in

750
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: our school world and see him on the two Finally,

751
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: Like my theory of things, Junk is in community college,

752
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? I don't think goes

753
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: to school with us. I think he graduated like three

754
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: years ago and was the kid that bought everybody beer

755
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: as a maybe what I'm saying, well, especially if the

756
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: boys all grew up playing together, it's like, it's not

757
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: real life that kids in a neighborhood are all in

758
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: the same grade. Literally never hung out with kids in

759
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: my grade. So you know, yeah, that's my that's my theory.

760
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to it. Yeah, And I like that, you know,

761
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: if that's sort of the lens we're looking at this through.

762
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: I also like that Else talks about how he wants

763
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to get on the team because he wants a scholarship,

764
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: like he wants he wants to be able to go

765
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: to college. You know. I like the reminder that not

766
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: all of these kids are affluent. Well, and that's so

767
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: that was a big conversation this episode. Haley got into Stanford,

768
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: like Lucas has gotten into what U n C, but

769
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: he wants to go to school close by so he

770
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: can help his mom with her baby. Like, these are

771
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: all the conversations that kids legitimately have that are scary.

772
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: It's even scarier when you don't have a grown up

773
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: that is really guiding you and you're just kind of

774
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: having to bring it for yourself. Yeah, what is what

775
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: is is Peyton going to college? Do we have? Was

776
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: there a moment where we try to figure that out?

777
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: I was always so confused about that because it was

778
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: a little miss like like when I was in high school,

779
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: I was in every single club ever because I was like,

780
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: I am getting the out of Virginia. I am going

781
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: to New York City. I'm gonna apply to every school

782
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: in the city and just go to the one that

783
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: gives me the most money. And that's what I did. Yeah,

784
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: the idea that Peyton is just like I don't know, man,

785
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might end up in l A,

786
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I might stay here. I don't have a job, Like

787
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: has Peyton never had a job? I don't know? Like

788
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, that actually is a great point, Hillary that

789
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: it's never occurred to me. But it does seem really

790
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: out of character for Peyton not to be incredibly driven

791
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: and have a like she's like floating around. Well she

792
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: she looks she opened up a club, she did, like,

793
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: she does have this vision with music. So that's okay,

794
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. That's a really big deal. Actually,

795
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: so I guess that's her job. I mean, do you

796
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: think maybe the I wonder if there's a little bit

797
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: of that that naturally comes out of a writer's room,

798
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: because everybody who works in our industry got degrees doing

799
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: things that have nothing to do with the jobs they get. Yeah,

800
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, And so I wonder if if

801
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's less top of mind. But then they're talking

802
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: so much about it for the other kids. I don't know.

803
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: It's a really it is really weird. Peyton should have

804
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: joined Peace Corps, you know what I mean, Like my

805
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: best friend joined Peace Corps and went to Morocco for

806
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: a while. That would track like far off land trying

807
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: to help people that would have landed. Um, And like

808
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: no one did anyone join the military? Did anyone? I'm

809
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: just trying to think of with the kids that I

810
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: grew up with actually did And I don't know your

811
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: brother was right, Derek, not Derek, the real Derek, not Psycho. Yeah,

812
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: he was a marine, that's right. Yeah, it's a weird

813
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: it's a weird deal that Peyton was like absolutely directionless,

814
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: given she's raised herself essentially that her father is so

815
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: work work, work, yes, but also so involved, like when

816
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: he gives you advice, he's he seems that education seems

817
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: like one of the one of the core dad things

818
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: to communicate. Yeah, that feels like Larry energy. It's weird.

819
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: I could see like Peyton going to vocational school, right,

820
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Like if Peyton had gone to learn how to run

821
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: a soundboard or like, like you know, we had VOTECH

822
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, and it was all how

823
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: to run a camera and there was the beautician school

824
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: and there was like electrician school. Payton could have gone

825
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: to votech that would have been cool. What would she

826
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: have done? What would you want to paint to do?

827
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, there were the kids that

828
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: would leave school halfway through the day to go to

829
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: votech and they learned how to run camera equipment and

830
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: soundboards and like like do film for the local cable

831
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: access station. And I thought that was the coolest ever

832
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: like cable Access TV, you know, run in this webcam.

833
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: She should absolutely be going and getting a you know,

834
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: a vocational degree somewhere. It is weird, but I like

835
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: hearing the different levels of college interests from our our kids,

836
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: like Hailey shooting for the Moon with Stanford and she

837
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: did it. It's awesome. Lucas is going on the merit

838
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: of his academics and then skills is just like, no, listen,

839
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: I will go to any school there is, but I

840
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: just I want to get out. I want to I

841
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: want to try my hand at this um. That felt accurate.

842
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Does Brooke talk about college? What did Brooke do? I

843
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: don't think she does. I mean she's so focused on

844
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: design that UM I think you like F I T

845
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: or something. I don't remember because we senior year the

846
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: thing we skip college, so I don't remember. If she

847
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: says she's going somewhere, I feel like she just goes

848
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: to New York and does her her line. That's all

849
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: anybody was talking about senior year, besides who was sleeping

850
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: with each other was where are you going to college?

851
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: What you know? What school are you trying to get into?

852
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: That's really funny that we never it just is barely

853
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: on our all of our radar except for the Guidance

854
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: Counselor episode. We did have one in entire episode dedicated

855
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: to seriousness Councilor. Peyton did talk about college once she

856
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: was looking at the school in Savannah, so had she

857
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: stayed with really makes sense with Jake, I mean, now

858
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Which boy am I going

859
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: to follow? Now? Um? Nathan? Let's talk about Nathan for

860
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: a second, because he's clearly dealing with some serious PTSD

861
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: and I think we're all a little unclear like what

862
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: this bad dream means. But it has been literally bubbling

863
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: up for two episodes, pun bubbling s What I did there? Um?

864
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: What the is going on? I don't know. I feel

865
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: like I missed something. It's very tricky because obviously, like

866
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: nearly drowning and nearly losing family members in an accident

867
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: like that would of course be traumatic. What I think

868
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: smells a little fishy to me is that he's having

869
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: these flashbacks that are like mysterious and unexplained. But it

870
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: seems like the device is everyone's telling him is he's

871
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: a hero, and he doesn't think he is. He is

872
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: beginning to communicate that he was drowning and scared, and

873
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: then you see Cooper open his eyes, and it's like,

874
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: did Cooper actually rescue everyone? And even if that's true,

875
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: why would we shame a teenage boy about that? Like,

876
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm just confused. I don't know. I just think, like,

877
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: what are what are they getting at? Like what are

878
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: they going to reveal? And and and why why does

879
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: he seem to recoil at You're a hero and then

880
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: flashback to being trapped, Like I'm just like, what's going

881
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: on here? Like this was scary and horrible. It wasn't

882
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: just flashbacks. He had had visions of this before the

883
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: wedding even happened. Wait he did. Yeah, that's right, that's

884
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: right that the dream was having. So this is it's

885
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: been going on for a while, guys, and he's just

886
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: he's realizing he's psychic. He's got water trauma, and I

887
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: don't understand the water trauma. Um, you know, I think

888
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: it's reasonable to say that Nathan's got PTSD and that

889
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: teenage boys who experienced trauma are not treated you know,

890
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: they're rewarded for being real tough about it, but they're

891
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: not treated as like vulnerable little animals. Um, but I don't. Yeah,

892
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: I just don't understand the water device, and they keep

893
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: coming back to it over and over and it's like

894
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: the only thing they're giving James to do. So maybe

895
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: that's why it feels weird to me. I'm just like,

896
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: what is going on here? What you're going to find out?

897
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: I bet they'll tell us San, I mean maybe, or

898
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: it could disappear into the miss it we don't get,

899
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, don't get your hope. I was gonna say,

900
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: last question, Uh, Peyton finds out she has a long

901
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: lost sibling. M if you were to find out that

902
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: you had a long lost sibling, who would you hope

903
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: it would be? Uh? Oh gosh, oh man, No, like

904
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: you mean it has to your you need like a

905
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: you want like a celebrity name, or like a like

906
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: a sports figure, like some kind of about someone we

907
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: don't know. But then I'm just gonna have like way

908
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: more questions. You're gonna be like, it's this chick Sally.

909
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: You guys don't know it. But I really wanted to

910
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: be my sister. Sorry my barista, let me tell you.

911
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: I love it. Who would be cool to haven't I

912
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of wanted an older brother I guess I feel

913
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: like I always wanted an older brother. I feel like

914
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: that would have solved a lot of my problems with

915
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: men if I had an older brother. I feel that

916
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: strongly as well, Like, yeah, I see Guss with George

917
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that looks cool, like that that seems

918
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: like a nice relationship. Yeah, it's funny. I um. The

919
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: person who immediately popped in my head made me laugh

920
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, man, Like, you know, it's

921
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: November one, We're eight days from the midterm elections concluding.

922
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm obviously very stressed about it. And I was like, oh,

923
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: this is hilarious. Like the first person who popped in

924
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: my mind was Adam Kinsinger, and I'm like, what I

925
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: would give to have like a dope older brother who's

926
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: like leading the charge for democracy and like fighting back,

927
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: but who technically comes from the other side of the aisle,

928
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: Like wouldn't that be so healing? And he would have

929
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: someone you would have a buddy, you guys would just

930
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: be on the courtyard. No. I just admire him so much,

931
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: and like as a dad and as a veteran and

932
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: as as you know, somebody who's done what he's done

933
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: on the committee, um, you know, for for January six,

934
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: Like he just shows up and he's like, what are

935
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: we doing about America? And I'm like that's exactly how

936
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I feel, so yeah, and it's like that would just

937
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: be so cool. And then as soon as I like

938
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: I saw his face and you asked the question, I

939
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: started laughing at myself. I was like, oh my god,

940
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: I need to rest. I think I had a first

941
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: reaction too, but I didn't say it. I kind of

942
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: have a huge girl crush on Cape Middleton and I

943
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: would love you know, she's a huge, one true fan.

944
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: That's what we were told. I don't need someone to

945
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: validate that. You don't remember just like I love her

946
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: so much, I will I just like I look at

947
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: her fashion, Like I scroll on Instagram and I'm like,

948
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: look how great. She's such a great dresser, she's such

949
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: a good speaker. It's like it's like the girl and me,

950
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: the Jersey kid that always felt scrappy and like, I'll

951
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: meet you in and Ali and Terry Len from one

952
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: and I could like, you know, I can like clean

953
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: up and get in the dirt. And then I look

954
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: at a woman like that and I'm like wouldn't it

955
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: be so nice to be elegant? God, that's so lovely.

956
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: What if she is a nightmare in her own little castle, Like,

957
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: what if that is all just spoken mirrors and she

958
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: is sweatpants city Joy. That's the version I want to

959
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: I bet she is. We can send a j suit.

960
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I bet she would listen. All I was saying is

961
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: I can't remember who told us back in the day,

962
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: but like we did get the word when we were

963
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: doing the show that she was a big fan. So

964
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: Joy had to reach for you. Hey, call me up, Kate, Hillary,

965
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: who's your who's your person? Um? When I was young,

966
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: I really wanted RuPaul to like be my older brother.

967
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: I was really like, I just I just thought about,

968
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: like all the holidays you have to do with your

969
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: family and all of the I felt like moving and

970
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: like hard things, like there's a hard you have to

971
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: do with your family, And I just thought, what would

972
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: make all of these experiences better? And it Okay, I

973
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: didn't grow up with but what I can say is that,

974
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, growing up in l A where I did,

975
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: and like all the all the creative folks I got

976
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: to work with at my dad's studio, I have not

977
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: like an actual uncle, but you know a dear family

978
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: friend of my parents who has been my uncle Jeff

979
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: for my whole life. It's just like fabulous makeup artist

980
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: was like always doing shoots with my dad and so

981
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'd go, oh man, all of them, and

982
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: I would like go visited the studio after school and

983
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: like go say hi to everybody. And I was always

984
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: so excited to see Uncle Jeff and he'd be like,

985
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: don't tell your parents would put some eyeline around you

986
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: and I was like yes, yes. And Jeff's partner Winston,

987
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean, god, they've been together for like forty years now.

988
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Winston did drag every weekend as Diana Ross just this

989
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: like stunningly beautiful black man who would do the full

990
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean the wigs and the glitter, like the outfits.

991
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: And it made everything more fun, right, my god, fun,

992
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: So like I didn't grow up with RuPaul, but I

993
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: did grow up with a drag queen. And let me

994
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: tell you what, everything was so much more fun great,

995
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: like so much more fun. Thank you for validating that

996
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: inner gut feeling that I've had. You know, I would

997
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: make this better drag. It makes everything that way. You guys,

998
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: I had to go. I had to go to a

999
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: memorial the other day and I passed a drag bar.

1000
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: Why are there not drag queens running moving companies except

1001
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: baby Drag? Hello, seriously the funnest moves of your life,

1002
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: or or just like like rent a date so I

1003
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: can take you to functions with me. I had to

1004
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: go to a memorial the other day and I was

1005
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: really really really upset about it. And Jeff and I

1006
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: got out of the car a few blocks away and

1007
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: we're walking to the venue and we passed this drag

1008
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: bar and it was just joy out on the sidewalk.

1009
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: It was everyone was singing together, everyone was dancing. There

1010
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: were so many feather boas. It was glamoraly ever and

1011
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: it puts such a huge smile on my face and

1012
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is the energy I want everywhere.

1013
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: More drag please, more drag please? Can we get Rupaula

1014
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: on the show? Can we speak that into existence? I

1015
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: think he let's talk about is an honorary drama please? Absolutely.

1016
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: I just got sweaty at that signest. Okay, guys, for

1017
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: our listeners at home, any of you who work on

1018
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: Drag Race and or have friends who work on drag Race.

1019
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: Please d mu hi. It's Bethany Frankel. My time on

1020
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: The Wheelhousewives of New York is a few years behind me,

1021
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: and now I'm ready to put the wheel back into

1022
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: the reel Housewives. That's where my new podcast Rewives comes in.

1023
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: Isn't your typical rewatch podcast. I'm watching only the most

1024
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: iconic episodes from all cities. I'm sharing never before heard

1025
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: stories of what happened behind the scenes, and I'm not

1026
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: just pulling in cast members for postgame analysis. I'm doing

1027
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: something a little bit more interesting. If you've ever seen

1028
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: an episode of The wheelhouse Wives, you know the drill.

1029
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: But beyond throwing drinks and legs, there are lessons about marriage, divorce, friendship, money, parenting,

1030
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: and faith. If you have the right minds, analyze and

1031
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: dig deeper. So I'm bringing on unexpected thought leaders and

1032
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: celebrities to get their take on the chaos this season.

1033
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: I sit down with Elizabeth Moss, Kevin Neal and Susie Orman,

1034
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: Griffin Johnson and more. You think that there isn't much

1035
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: to learn from flipping tables and yanking wigs, but that's

1036
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: where you're wrong. Listen to rewives with Bethany Frankel on

1037
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

1038
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: get your favorite podcasts. We have a fan question. Okay,

1039
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: hey Lenia, She says, do you feel like Lucas and

1040
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: Peyton's kiss after she was shot betrayed? Bro Um, No,

1041
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: she thought she was gonna die. I don't even think

1042
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: she thought she was going to die. I think it's

1043
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: just it's, uh, it's trauma bonding, right, It's like, I'm scared.

1044
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm so, so so scared right now. I would kiss

1045
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: anybody literally if I thought, you know, yeah, I guess

1046
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: I probably would. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Sophie is like, no,

1047
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: that's because you know what I was gonna say. I

1048
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I think there's levels of how we

1049
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: judge and like, yeah, look, I think Bass, you shouldn't

1050
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: kiss your best friend's boyfriend. I think that's true. I

1051
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: also think about the circumstance. I also think about the

1052
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: need for drama on a TV show, because if all

1053
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: the characters are happy all the time and never have conflict,

1054
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: you're going to do three episodes and get canceled. So

1055
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: it's like there's a bunch of that and I and

1056
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: I think I think this kind of relates to what

1057
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: we were saying before about how you really have to

1058
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Speaker 1: look in and do the work. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: would hope for our patent that she could go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't my best moment. And also, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give myself a ton of grace. I thought I was

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Speaker 1: going to die, Like I can apologize and also not

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Speaker 1: move through my life carrying that guilt, and both of

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Speaker 1: those things can be true. And my fear is that we,

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Speaker 1: you know, so much of our life happens in two

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Speaker 1: D now, like everything's on a screen. Everything's a flat

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Speaker 1: picture everything. We want everything to be black and white,

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Speaker 1: and nothing is. And so it's like, I think we

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: need to ask questions like this, but I think we

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: need to give ourselves permission and to not be so

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01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: reductive to just have like a yes or no answer.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to realize that if we want

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: to grow, a whole bunch of things can be true.

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01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: At the same time, she can be sorry and not

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: deserve to be punished and be forgiven. And that's that's

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: a different conversation that feels like he's also, my characters

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01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: on our show are so bad A further explanations like yes,

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01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: you hear the word kiss and it's like, you guys

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: made out for seven hours. You hooked. Literally it was

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: like the shortest, driest peck kiss on the through tears,

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: like it wasn't sexy, it was. She was in Brooks mind.

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Speaker 1: She said, you guys kissed, your tongue is touched. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Um Our characters are not good at follow up questions,

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01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: because it's all it was the same thing when like

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Speaker 1: Haley and um Chris Keller kissed, Like in Nathan's mind,

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Speaker 1: he's like, you guys kissed, and then we see it

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Speaker 1: and we're like, y, open your mouth the name of

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01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: this episode. Open your mouth, open your mouth. Disgusting you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're getting into We're getting into after

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: hours talks. We should spend a wheel. We gotta out here.

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Speaker 1: There's not there's not even out all involved in this one. Today.

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Speaker 1: It's morning. It's morning. It's morning, Okay. Who is most

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Speaker 1: likely to completely lose it on a roller coaster? Does

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Speaker 1: that mean lose it with glee or terror or barf?

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01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: Like it's terror and barfing? Uh yeah, so who Who's

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Who's the chicken? Of the bunch. I feel like Skills

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: has some surprising fears. I feel like I can see

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01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: him getting really nauseous, but he reves just to get

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01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: like Bevan's attention, Like he's like, act scared so she'll

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Speaker 1: protect me. Um, it's Dan the loss of control. Yeah,

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: that I mean, like when I think about sensations, I

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: don't like an amusement parks that Hollywood Tower of Terror.

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't like the feeling of falling and yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so I can see Dan like a person like Dan

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Speaker 1: being like I don't want to be in this chair.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be in this chair. Give me

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Speaker 1: out of this chair. That makes sense. Yeah, but wait,

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Speaker 1: does that mean it's me in real life? No, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm cool. I don't freak out. I'm fine. I swearing.

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Speaker 1: Don't look at me. Who was the last roller coaster

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Speaker 1: you went on? I don't really go So I did

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Speaker 1: the Cyclone of Coney Island when I was nineteen, and

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: that thinks like eight thousand years old, and really it's

1114
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: like super rickety and I was in the last part

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01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: of it that constantly feels like it's going to go

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Speaker 1: off the tracks, and it could be different in the

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Speaker 1: twenty years since I've done that, But um, I I'm

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Speaker 1: not convinced that roller coasters are well cared for and

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Speaker 1: I that's not how I want to go. Guys. I

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Speaker 1: had a phase where I just like really loved them,

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Speaker 1: and I think being a kid in southern California, it

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01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: was like so easy to go to Universal or six Flags,

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Speaker 1: like everything's close, and I don't know, remember years ago

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Speaker 1: there was like some amusement park I think on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast and that lady got decapitated. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm good. I don't think I'm done. Literally,

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Speaker 1: my business partner Liz produced the documentary class Action Parts,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, or when they get stuck upside down?

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Speaker 1: Something clicked for me where I'm like, when you do

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Speaker 1: something that is considered to be more dangerous than just

1131
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: like walking through the world on a daily basis, and

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Speaker 1: you've done it so many times, like you've got maybe

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Speaker 1: even like a little addicted to the adrenaline and you

1134
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: were fine so many times, like maybe you're good. You

1135
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: were jumping out of airplanes and Sophia I was real

1136
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: frustrated with that. I was like, why is she tempting fate?

1137
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I like if I was stressed, I'd be like, you

1138
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna drive an

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: hour and jump out of an airplane because something happens

1140
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: when you do that, and everything like clicks back into place.

1141
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: And then I was like I could go for like

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Speaker 1: a hike or meditate, like in the safety of my

1143
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: own home. I just I did it so many times

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: that I was like, I'm not going to push my

1145
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: luck anymore. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, there's something about tempting fate.

1146
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a I had a boyfriend

1147
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: get really upset with me once because he had planned

1148
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: a sunrise hot air balloon ride past Mexico in New Mexico.

1149
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: It was going to be gorgeous, but I was like,

1150
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: I can't, Like I'm a single mom. I'm like I'm

1151
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Speaker 1: the only one, Like I can't. I can't, like I

1152
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 1: can't die. You don't understand that I actually can't die

1153
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Speaker 1: right now. I grew up in the house that was

1154
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: like everything's going to kill you. If everything's gonna kill you,

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01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: including roller coasters, including hot air balloons and jumping out

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: of an airplane, don't be ridiculous. Read a book so

1157
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: don't ridiculous read a book is what I want in

1158
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: the book fair at my eventual children's school to be

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: called to it. All right, Well, now we'll triggered some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot that's going on next week, next week, guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know what to expect with this title,

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01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Season four, Episode two Things I Forgot at Birth. We

1163
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: really do have a scheme of having to go back

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: and examine our So I guess we're in for a

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Speaker 1: ride and we'll see you guys. Uh, we'll see you there,

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Speaker 1: but see if by Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget

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