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Speaker 1: that the commissioner and CEO of the Asian Tour UM.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the fallouts between all the stuff

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Speaker 1: between the PGA Tour and Live UM, the DP World Tour,

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Speaker 1: the European Tour UM, they've had to change things and

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Speaker 1: the Asian Tour is definitely now. I think the Asian

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Speaker 1: you're gonna to see more players. UM look at Asia

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Speaker 1: as as a legit option. They've got their international series

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Speaker 1: which are kind of their version of elevated events. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cho talks a lot about Tom Kim is

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Speaker 1: a product of the Asian Tour, and I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to see more players come out of that um,

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get straight to the interview with

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Speaker 1: the Asian Tour CEO and commissioner. Show men. Thank all right,

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Speaker 1: um Joe, if someone had told you man, I've said,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of players as well. The golf landscape,

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Speaker 1: the tour landscape has really really changed. I know, the

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Speaker 1: Asian Tour has always been a huge part of the

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Speaker 1: kind of the runway and the future that that you

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Speaker 1: think that you are Guys as a tour can provide

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Speaker 1: to golfers around the world. Well, I mean, first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: we're just delighted to be in this position. I mean,

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Speaker 1: two years ago, we couldn't play golf because in Asia

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Speaker 1: the borders were shut. Um, there was no telling when

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Speaker 1: this position, having restarted our tour in November of last

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Speaker 1: year with nineteen months of no golf is remarkable. I mean,

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Speaker 1: up until now, we've played nineteen events. We're going to

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Speaker 1: The PGA Tour was one of the first professional sports

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Speaker 1: I mean it was tough. It was really tough for

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Speaker 1: They didn't have a job for two years. Um. And

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Speaker 1: So I mean, even today you have Hong Kong and

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's it was tough, but we're out of

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Speaker 1: what role do you think the Asian Tour has played

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody in the US wants to play in America,

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Speaker 1: But where and how did you all get to where

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Speaker 1: One of the main misconceptions about the Asian Tour is

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Speaker 1: the Asian Tour as a pathway to the European Tour

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Speaker 1: and I mean it's it's I mean quite easy to

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Speaker 1: that coming from Australia, the pathway wasn't always if you

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Speaker 1: get players to the actual Asian Tour. I mean absolutely,

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Speaker 1: playing for thirty five spots. I mean outside of that,

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Speaker 1: So we decided to put on the Development Tour strictly

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Speaker 1: not not for profit. We're not making money off those events, UM,

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Speaker 1: so many players right now playing on the Live Tour.

430
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Speaker 1: There are so many players playing on the DP World

431
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Speaker 1: Tour in Asia. Um, how is the current relationship that

432
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Speaker 1: the Asian Tour has with the PGA Tour. Um, Look,

433
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Speaker 1: I'd like to think it was. It's still a professional

434
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Speaker 1: relationship that we have. UM. I mean, even though there's

435
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: only one w g C left on the calendar, was

436
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: still part of the World Golf Championships and hopefully HSBC

437
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: in Shanghai comes back. Um, we're still counterparts on the

438
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Speaker 1: World Golf Ranking Committee and we still have to deal

439
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Speaker 1: with day to day to A related issues. So from

440
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Speaker 1: that perspective, I think we still have a professional relationship.

441
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Speaker 1: But day to day UH, tour to tour, there's no

442
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Speaker 1: progression from the Asian Tour to the PGA Tour. Arguably

443
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: that never was. Um, we don't co sanction with them anymore,

444
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: but arguably, you know, after the C I and B Classics, stopped.

445
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: We haven't done so anyways. I guess the biggest change

446
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: for US is we used to co sanction and be

447
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: alliance partners with the European Tour. Now the DP World

448
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Tour um we don't have any co sanctions with them anymore.

449
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: And it was a successful model for twenty five years,

450
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: and there were I mean there were a lot. I

451
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: don't think the average golfers realizes how many of the

452
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: tournaments outside the United States were co sanctioned. They just

453
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Speaker 1: see somebody playing here, they see, you know, Justin Rose

454
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: would always at the end of the year go over

455
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: and play on the Asian Tour, right and as soon

456
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Speaker 1: as And that's the other thing I wanted you to

457
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Speaker 1: talk about because I think a lot of people listening

458
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: don't have a real understanding there this this big talk

459
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: right now about live getting trying to get world ranking points.

460
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: The PGA Tour obviously is where you're going to have

461
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Speaker 1: the most world ranking points. But talk to me about

462
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Speaker 1: the fact that regardless of before Live, if three or

463
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Speaker 1: four of the top players from the PGA Tour, you know,

464
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: let's take Live out of the equation and let's just

465
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: say everybody was still playing on the PGA Tour. If

466
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Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, Brooks kept go, Bryceon, d Shambo and Cam

467
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Smith currently, given where their world rankings were before they

468
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Speaker 1: went to live and before they had the opportunity to

469
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Speaker 1: get world ranking points, that tournament immediately gets elevated from

470
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Speaker 1: a world ranking standpoint. Yeah, look the way the world

471
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Speaker 1: rankings used to be. If you had strong players from

472
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Speaker 1: inside the top ten, the top twenty five, a top

473
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Speaker 1: fifty in the world, if three or four of them

474
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Speaker 1: got together and came to an Asian Tour event or

475
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: wherever they wanted to play, that would immediately bring the

476
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: strength of field up. Um. There's been a slight change

477
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: to the World Golf rankings recently as of August of

478
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Speaker 1: this year, where the formula for calculation of strength of

479
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: field is is very different. And you see the PGA

480
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Speaker 1: to have massive strengths of fields every single week, weekend,

481
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Speaker 1: week out, and there's no denying that the best players

482
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Speaker 1: are playing there at the moment. But it's certainly distancing

483
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: all the smaller tours from the PGA Tour as well

484
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Speaker 1: as the European Tour. I mean, they're not immune from

485
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: this distancing because you're seeing a tournament in America where

486
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Speaker 1: the winner gets forty five to fifty points for winning.

487
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: In Europe it could be as low as ten or eleven.

488
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: And in Asia. One of our fully sanctioned events in

489
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: Taiwan a couple of weeks ago, Um, we only received

490
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Speaker 1: two point two points for the winner. And I mean

491
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Speaker 1: that's disappointing to say. I mean for a guy like

492
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Speaker 1: Tom Kim to come through Asian Development Tour, Asian Tour,

493
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Korean Tour, work his way into the top hundred in

494
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Speaker 1: the world, get into majors, get into the top fifties

495
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, I mean that that's probably not

496
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: going to happen again, based on how the world ranking

497
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: is right now. One of the other things that obviously

498
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Speaker 1: with Live coming on board this this this constant talk

499
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Speaker 1: about money, money, money agreed from the players. How much

500
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: is enough? Um, you and I both know that a

501
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: lot of the people listening this podcast and the golf

502
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: fans don't know how the sausage and the hot dogs

503
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: are made. Um. If you are one of the best

504
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: players in the world on the PGA Tour, if you

505
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: are going to leave the United States and go play

506
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: somewhere else, you are going to get paid accordingly to

507
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: go and I am I am all for every single

508
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: professional golfer being able to make as much money as

509
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: they possibly can, because you and I both know from

510
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: a professional golf standpoint, golfer standpoint show and from an

511
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: athlete standpoint, the runway is not as long as everyone

512
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: thinks it is. You have a very very small window.

513
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: So when we see now the live people, the live

514
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: tour paying players, everybody's saying, oh, the players agreed. But

515
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: you and I both know that if any player from

516
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods to Greg Norman, to Phil Mickelson, to Nick

517
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: foul to Rory McRoy, we can just go down the list.

518
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Speaker 1: If you are a great player. One of the things

519
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: that that allows you to do as a great player

520
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: is be able to shop yourself around the world and

521
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: be able to make money off the golf course by

522
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: going to a tour in Asia, tour wherever. I mean,

523
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: that was very much what we built the back end

524
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: of the Asian Tour season on. It was the Singapore Open,

525
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: the Hong Kong Open Malaysia. Adam Scott has one multiple

526
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: time in the else is one there. Patrick Reid's come

527
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: to um Hong Kong, Justin Rose has come to Hong

528
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Kong and Indonesia. It was very common to see those

529
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Speaker 1: guys come out and play two or three times at

530
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Speaker 1: the end of the season, and that was just the

531
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: norm for us. I mean that that's very common. And

532
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: it's like you're saying, it's professional sports, not just golf.

533
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the transfer market in football.

534
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: You look at football in general. You have top players

535
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: playing in Spain, you have them in the Premier League,

536
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: You've got them in the Bundesliga. And France name I've

537
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: plays in flats France, Ronaldo plays in the Premier League. Um,

538
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, they go where the money is at. And

539
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: if you also look at basketball in America, I mean

540
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, you would never envision as many

541
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: international players coming from leagues in Europe. But again, the

542
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Holy Grail. If you are a basketball player in Europe,

543
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: you are going to beg, borrow, and steal to do

544
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Speaker 1: anything you could possibly do to try and get to

545
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Speaker 1: the NBA. And I think it's it's interesting to me

546
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Speaker 1: that I find that it's almost like this utopian Truman

547
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Show type. We want golf to kind of be like

548
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: it was in the sixties and seventies. I mean in two,

549
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: if Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer and Gary Player, the big

550
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: three were playing golf at the height of their powers

551
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: in two they would be making millions of dollars to

552
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: go play somewhere else. I mean, it's it's crazy to

553
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: me that golf seems to be this only entity that

554
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: people think that the players shouldn't be financially rewarded for

555
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: their stature and their position in the game. Well. Absolutely,

556
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: and look I'm gonna take it right down to Asian

557
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: two and a d T level. You look at the

558
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: money that our guys are playing for. Right, if you

559
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: keep your card on the Asian Tour and you come

560
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: sixtieth on the order of merit, you're only making a

561
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and fifty of that goes to expense exactly,

562
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: So you're struggling to break even when you get make

563
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: it to the big leagues. What's wrong with making money?

564
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: It's a grind on the Asian Tour, it's a grind

565
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: on the A d T. As we've mentioned multiple times.

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Speaker 1: But once you get up there, I mean, like you said,

567
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Speaker 1: your careers fifteen years well that was the thing, you know,

568
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: when I was working on the European Tour. Um, it

569
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: was very similar to the Asian Tour. We all stayed

570
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: in the same hotels, we all traveled together. It was

571
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: like a traveling circus. It felt like a family. And

572
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: then you get to the PGA Tour where you get

573
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Speaker 1: a courtesy car every week, you get free dry cleaning

574
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: every week. Um, the golf balls. Which golf ball do

575
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: you play? Which golf ball do you want? I mean,

576
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: the golf courses are better, the conditions are better. Um.

577
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: That was the aspiration to make it to the PGA Tour.

578
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: And do you think that there will be so where

579
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Speaker 1: do you see all of this playing out? I mean

580
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: where do you see the Asian Tours role in professional

581
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: golf in the next two years, in the next five years,

582
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: and and the next ten years. What is the goal

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: of the Asian Tour moving forward? Well, I feel like

584
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: the Asian Tour was lagging behind, Like over the past

585
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: two decades, we've kind of hovered around the same prize money,

586
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: we visit the same places, we have the same sponsors.

587
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: But the injection that we've received from Live is just

588
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: rejuvenation of the Asian Tour. I mean outside of live.

589
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: We have a relationship with Golf Saudi. They provide us

590
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: with the Saudi International, which we sanction in February. That's

591
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the start of our year, five million dollar event stop

592
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: players from all over the world coming to play with

593
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: forty odd Asian Tour players. That's a crack over of

594
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: a tournament to start our tour. And then I mean

595
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: we go into twelve fifteen events which are over one

596
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: five million dollars on the Asian Tour um. Then you

597
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: have a few which or seven fifty, a few that

598
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: are five hundred, but I mean it's a collection of

599
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: two to twenty five events where you're making good money

600
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: now and kids are watching wanting to get involved in golf,

601
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: wanting to choose golf as a career, which is important

602
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: in in Asia where mom and dad always wants you

603
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: to be an accountant or a doctor or go to

604
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: Stanford or to so I mean we're not trying to

605
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: deter kids from going to school, but they see sports

606
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: or golf in particular as a proper career where it

607
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: wasn't before. It was a hobby before you mentioned Asia,

608
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: and and it's a place where players can kind of

609
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: further their lives and their careers. Obviously the women's game

610
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: on the LPGA tour UM. I was at the Women's

611
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: U S Open and there are so many players from Asia,

612
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: from Korea, from Thailand, from China, UM the I think

613
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: it is enriched the the LPGA UM. There's there's talk

614
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Speaker 1: about UM. A couple of weeks ago when the President's

615
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Speaker 1: Cup was on, there were guys saying, listen, the President's

616
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Cup is dying because the emerits keeping. There are so

617
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: many great players internationally around the world, from the from

618
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the ladies game that could play. Maybe we get them involved.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the the Asian Tour moving forward with

620
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: the International series with UM, the alliance and the partnership

621
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Speaker 1: with Live having an opportunity to build Asian Tour players

622
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: not only wherever they play. I mean, I'm I'm noticing now.

623
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the current UM International

624
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: President's Cup UM team that just had Trevor implement on

625
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: my podcast Good Friend UM, the Koreans played a huge,

626
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: huge part of that. Are you excited that you when

627
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: you look at a PGA tour UM event, when you

628
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: go to tournaments, that you're seeing more players from Asia

629
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Speaker 1: playing on the PGA Tour. Sure. I mean we were

630
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: really excited to see four Koreans on the President's Cup team.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever happened before. Even though not

632
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: every one of those Korean players had played on the

633
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Asian Tour before they all started out in Korea. Um,

634
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: they started on the Korean Tour and then moved their

635
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: way up to the PGA Tour. So I mean, it's

636
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: great to see those guys get the recognition they deserve.

637
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: And what's exciting is we're seeing a whole bunch of

638
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: them come through the Asian Tour, and like I said,

639
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Qualifying School is fully subscribed. I think we've got a

640
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five Korean kids coming to Qualifying School.

641
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: So they're wanting to come out of Korea and apply

642
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: their trade in Asia. Um. Another exciting thing for us

643
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: is a fifteen year old amateur winning on the Asian

644
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Tour this year. UM playing six seven times already on

645
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: the Asian Tour and missing only one cut and finishing

646
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: in the top ten three times. I mean, that's incredible

647
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: for a fifteen year old. What what what were we doing

648
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: at fifteen? What a great story. And I saw him

649
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: yesterday on the putting room. He was one of the

650
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: alternates here. Um. He was here all day as an alternate,

651
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: and Pat perez Um walked past him and said, you

652
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: know you've been here all day and he said, now

653
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: I had to go back to the hotel and take

654
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: chemistry test. I mean that story alone, You know, a

655
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: young kid from Asia who's doing those type of things.

656
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel like a kid like Tom

657
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Kim now who basically is a product of the Asian Tour? Right?

658
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot of people now that

659
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: that given this whole kind of you know, current battle

660
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: between the PGA Tour and Live but Tom Kim is

661
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: a product of the Asian Tour. Do you see him

662
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: as someone like a from an Asian standpoint, someone like

663
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: a Rory McElroy to where this younger generation can grow

664
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: up and if you look at how many kids you

665
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: look at just to Thomas and the you know, the

666
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: amazing friendship and relationship he now has with Tiger Woods.

667
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: Justin Thomas grew up idolizing Tiger Woods. He was to

668
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: go right, Yes, Jack, Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, the ones that

669
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: came before him. But this younger generation of golfers under

670
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: the age of thirty five, Tiger was there. Michael Jordan's right,

671
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: he was the benchmark. Do you you feel like a

672
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: young player? And again we're throwing all this at Tom Kim.

673
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: The kids only still nineteen, but there are kids that

674
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: are ten, eleven, twelve that are into golf that are

675
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: now going to look at a kid like Tom Kim

676
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: and said, listen, I can go play in Asia. And

677
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Tom Kidd got to the PGA Tour about time, who

678
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: was nineteen. I mean that is a that is a

679
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: huge calling card for the Asian Tour. Well. I think

680
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: Tom Kim is a very unique individual because he has

681
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: so many touch points with so many different countries. His

682
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: dad was a teaching professional in Australia, um so he

683
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: lived in Australia. Then he traveled to the Philippines and

684
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: played club golf in the Philippines. Then he based himself

685
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: in Thailand, played on the Asian Tour whilst being based

686
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: in Thailand, went back to Korea. He never lived in

687
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Korea till the pandemic, went back home to where his

688
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: parents are from and lived in Korea. Now he's in America.

689
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different countries that claim a

690
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: little bit of connection to Tom Kim that it's incredible

691
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: and all of those countries or in Asia, yeah, factively well,

692
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: and they contributed to his career. The club that he

693
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: played at in the Philippines puts out a newsletter every

694
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: week mentioning Tom numerous times. Australia, Thailand. I mean, up

695
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: until a few months ago he was wearing the Singer logo,

696
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: which is the number one supporter of golf in Thailand.

697
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: So he was receiving support from a Thai company whilst

698
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: being a foreigner in Thailand, helping him with his expenses.

699
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: So he's touched a lot of people in such a

700
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: short amount of time. Oh, I mean, he's a great

701
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: ambassador for us. Lastly, um through the Asian Tour. I

702
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that predominantly the tournaments have been held

703
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: in Asia. But I look at what's happened, you know.

704
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: I look at Camp Smith, I look at Adam Scott,

705
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I look at all of the great players that have

706
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: come from Australia and and to me, it it's like

707
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Australia just gets overlooked from a tour standpoint. Would there

708
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: ever be a time to where the the Asian Tour

709
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: would look at maybe hosting an event, an international series

710
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: in Australia. I think the fan base down there for

711
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: golf is starving to see some of the best players

712
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: in the world play down there. Would you all, as

713
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: as as the Asian Tour, ever think about hosting an

714
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: Asian Tour event in Australia. Um, I guess it's very

715
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: close to home because it was my home for twenty years.

716
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I grew up in Australia. Um, from the age of four. UM,

717
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: I've played a lot of golf in Australia and watched

718
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot of golf in Australia growing up. And UM,

719
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: what's lacking is that huge Uh you know, the summer

720
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: of golf that they used to have. They used to

721
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: have three, four or five events consecutively that brought top

722
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: players to Australia and unfortunately that doesn't happen right now.

723
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: But this literally holding it back up. And I think

724
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: the Asian Tour can collaborate with the Australian PGA and

725
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: work together on doing something down there. Geographically, it's it

726
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. We have twenty five Australian members on the

727
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Asian Tour as well, so it's just very logical to

728
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: do well. I think you guys are doing a great job.

729
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: And and and I know you guys are doing a

730
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: good job when I have junior golfers, high school golfers,

731
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: and college golfers saying now, listen, I've just graduated from college. Um,

732
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at going to Asia as my

733
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: pathway as opposed to saying Okay, I'm gonna go try

734
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: and qualify for the corn Ferry. I'm going to try

735
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: and qualify for the PGA to our Latin America PGA

736
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Tour Canada. So I think you guys are doing amazing job.

737
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I think, um, the fact that Tom Kim is is

738
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: such a huge, huge part of your story moving forward. Um,

739
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: and I think you guys are going to continue to

740
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: do well. So congrats on everything you're doing. And thanks

741
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: for talking to me. Thanks. And what's really exciting for

742
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: us is going to new destinations as well. As you know.

743
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: Next month we're going to Morocco, a place which is

744
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: very dear to Yah and Egypt, so you know, expanding

745
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: our horizons. So looking forward to it. Keep up the

746
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: good work. Thanks that so another really good interview there,

747
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: showman that Um, listen, I think all the tours right

748
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: now are trying to figure out how they positioned themselves

749
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: in the crazy professional golf world of two And like

750
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: I said at the top of the show, I think

751
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: the Asian Tour, Um, you're gonna start to see more

752
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: players look at that as a viable way to kind

753
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: of further their careers, and um, you know it's it's

754
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: got some really really good things happening on the Asian Tour.

755
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: And want to thank Choe for talking to us, so, um, yeah,

756
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean Brooks kept back in the winner circle, Ricky

757
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: Fowler had a chance to win last week at Zozo,

758
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: and I want to take wanted to talk about those

759
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: two things. I mean I started working with Brooks again

760
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: about a month a little over a month and a

761
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: half ago, and my dad started working with Ricky Fowler

762
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: about a month ago. And listen, I think it's really

763
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: easy in the professional game. Um. I'm on the coaching side,

764
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm not on the player's side, so it's just going

765
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: to be my opinion. Um, but I do think one

766
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: of the negative things of what Tiger Woods has done

767
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: over his career is that, um he has changed his

768
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: golf swing so many times and had huge success doing it. Um,

769
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: My dad was part of a massive swing overhaul of

770
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods from his amateur days to his professional days,

771
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: and they had a lot of success. And then he

772
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: made the choice Tiger to completely throw everything that helped

773
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: him win eight majors and become the best player in

774
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the world and worked with Hank Kaney, completely revamped his

775
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: golf swing, had an unbelievable win record. UM, one more majors,

776
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: was dominant. UM then worked Shawn Foley, then worked with

777
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Chris Como, and I think a lot of players, I

778
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: think that they have to make all of these massive

779
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: changes in their golf swings. And UM, using you know,

780
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Ricky and and Brooks's examples. I worked for Brooks Kapa

781
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: for eight years. UM, haven't worked with him in two years,

782
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: and UM we started working together at the live event

783
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: at Bedminster and UM he's back in the winner circle again.

784
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: And listen a lot of this stuff. I've had a

785
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: lot of questions on social people asking me what we

786
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: were working on. We basically just kind of went back

787
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: to the things that helped him be the greatest player

788
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: in the world, to be dominant in the major's, win

789
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: four majors in a very very short period of time,

790
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: get to number one in the world and just you know,

791
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: play golf that we just haven't seen in the major championships.

792
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler, my dad and I worked with Ricky. Uh,

793
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: we were both let go um at the end of

794
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: nineteen and um, you know, Ricky's now back working with

795
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: my dad, and you know they're working on a lot

796
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: of the same things that they were working on in

797
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: the past. I think players players have DNA's right, players

798
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: have UM signatures in their golf swing. And when you

799
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: do work with a player at a very high level

800
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: for an extended period of time and they have a

801
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of success, and then they decided to go

802
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: in a different direction and do something else. If it works, great,

803
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: but if it doesn't work. Um. I think one of

804
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: the things that that I've been able to do with

805
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Brooks in in in working with Brooks again is to

806
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: just simplify things, to just go back to the basics

807
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: of Hey, listen, we we had a pretty good blueprint

808
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: in the eight years that we worked together. Um, we

809
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Um, you got to number

810
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: one in the world and I said to Brooks, listen,

811
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to doing some of the same

812
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: things that you used to do. And it was interesting

813
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: that a lot of the things I think that Brooks

814
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: was trying to do UM over the last couple of years. UM,

815
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: he was trying to work on some of the things

816
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: that we worked on in the past. But one of

817
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: our main job abs his golf instructors, but certainly as

818
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: coaches UM at the tour level, is we're a second

819
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: set of eyes. And I think Brooks was trying to

820
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: work on some of the things that we had worked

821
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: on in the past, but his set up, the things

822
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: that he was doing before he even hit a golf

823
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: ball just weren't allowing him to do some of the

824
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: things that he was able to do before. So really

825
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: in the last month and a half, we've done a

826
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: lot of basic work on posture, alignment, ball position, all

827
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: of the things that Brooks does before he hits a

828
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: golf ball. And as a result of those things starting

829
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit more normal like they used to. UM,

830
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: he's been able to swing the golf club the way

831
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: that UM he wants to and the way that we

832
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: want to. UM. So I think you should if you

833
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: are trying to make massive changes in your golf swing,

834
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: you have to kind of think about, you know, what

835
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, why you're trying to do it,

836
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: and what direct should you're going to go, and you know,

837
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: sometimes those changes don't work. I mean, my dad's been

838
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: working with Ricky Fowler. UM. He's played three tournaments this year,

839
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: and I think he's come close to accumulating in three

840
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: tournaments the same amount of FedEx Cup points that he

841
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: achieved in the entire season last year. And three events,

842
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and again going back to some of the things that

843
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: made him a great player, going back to the things

844
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: the formula that that you know, my dad knows works

845
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: with Ricky. UM, I've gone back to working on the

846
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: same things with Brooks um that I know made him

847
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: the number one player in the world. UM. And so

848
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: it's been interesting. UM. I think it was a really

849
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: important win for for Brooks. I think it was a

850
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: really important win for Ricky Fowler, even though he didn't

851
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: get back into the winner circle. Because professional golfers are

852
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: just like everybody that's listening, they play a lot on

853
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: confidence and and all of you know that are listening

854
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: that if you're hitting a lot of fairways, if you're

855
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: hitting a lot of greens, the game seems easier regardless

856
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: of what your handicapped level is. But if you're a

857
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: bad driver of the golf ball and you're a fifteen

858
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: handicapper and driving is one of the weak parts of

859
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: your game, if you have a round of golf where

860
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: you hit ten eleven fairways, your confidence is going to

861
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: go through the roof. And I guarantee your iron game

862
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: gets better as a result. Um, if you're you know,

863
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: a streaky putter and you're not putting great, and all

864
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get on a run to where

865
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: you're making a lot of puts, it trickles down to

866
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: every other part of your game. So tour players in

867
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: general play so much on confidence. And I think that

868
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: you're seeing that in two players, um that have that

869
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: have struggled over the last you know, two to three years,

870
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: and Brooks and Ricky, and I think in going back

871
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: to some of the things that are familiar and some

872
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: of the things that UM, the people working with them,

873
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: my dad and myself, we know the things that we're

874
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: working on, UM myself with Brooks, and I know my

875
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: dad looks at the stuff he's working on with Ricky.

876
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: I worked with Ricky for a number of years. I

877
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: look at the stuff they're working on and in my opinion,

878
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: it's what is going to help Ricky get back into

879
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: the winner circle. It's what's going to help Ricky get

880
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: back inside the top fifty. It's what's going to get

881
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: Ricky to have opportunities to win golf. All you want

882
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: as a tour player, um, regardless of where you're playing,

883
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: is to have an opportunity on Sunday. And I think

884
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: it's huge for Ricky Fowler's confidence to take a lead

885
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: into the final round and maybe not have his best stuff,

886
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: but to to have an opportunity to finish where he

887
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: finished given where he's been, has been a huge, huge

888
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: plus for Ricky and I would expect Ricky continues to

889
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: play well this week. Um, Brooks listen, whether you're a

890
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: fan of Live, whether you're not a fan, whether you

891
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: think it's an exhibition, whether whatever whatever side you fall on.

892
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Brooks Kepta is playing golf.

893
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: He is playing the same golf courses everybody else, and

894
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: he shut the lowest score and won the tournament and

895
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: that is going to be huge for his confidence moving forward.

896
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: That is going to be huge for his game moving forward,

897
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: and confidence is a huge, huge part of tournament golf.

898
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: So UM really really happy to see Ricky Fowler, UM

899
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: have a chance to win again. UM. I love Ricky

900
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: and UM I root for him. And as someone that's

901
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: working with Brooks, UM, I've never seen the guy work harder.

902
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people listening you're gonna go, oh,

903
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: this is the guy that says he does in practice

904
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: and everything. He said that comment three years ago, and

905
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: somewhat that comment, that comment was taken out of context. UM,

906
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you as someone that works with him, UM,

907
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen him work harder than he's worked in

908
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: the last month and a half. And I've never seen

909
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: him want to win more than I've seen him want

910
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: to win in the last month and a half. And

911
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he did it. And UM, I'm excited

912
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: to see what the future holds, not only for Brooks

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Speaker 1: but also for Ricky Fowler. So if to everyone for listening,

914
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: UM excited. Got some good guests in the pipeline. Tough

915
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: to get everybody's schedule. It's not easy to kind of

916
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: schedule everybody. Everybody's got kind of real world stuff going,

917
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: but we are going to have some really good guests

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Speaker 1: for you in the coming weeks and the coming months.

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Speaker 1: Son of a Buch comes to you every Wednesday. We

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00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: will see everyone next week