Speaker 1: Well, I invited you. Hear, I thought I made myself
Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guess, Tom. You gotta come
Speaker 1: to me empty And I said, no guests. Your presences
Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how
Speaker 1: did you dare to surbey me?
Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're
Speaker 2: in the backyard. It's absolutely beautiful. The birds are chirping.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow it'll be ninety nine degrees, so we're just enjoying
Speaker 2: the last moment of mild temperatures. I refilled the windshield
Speaker 2: wipe or fluid in my car, just mostly to stop
Speaker 2: the beeping. My entire life is just kind of about
Speaker 2: lowering the amount of beeping going on. And so that's
Speaker 2: nice and I'm able to see through the windshield. Now
Speaker 2: what else is going on? I saw an hour of
Speaker 2: Megalopolis last night. That was enough. And now here we
Speaker 2: are ready to go. I'm so so excited about today's guest.
Speaker 2: It's Elliott Glazer. Elliott hey Man, Welcome to. I said,
Speaker 2: no gifts.
Speaker 3: What is Megalopolis?
Speaker 2: Oh my, are you not familiar with Megalopolis?
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is.
Speaker 2: This is Francis Ford Coppola's new movie that he sold
Speaker 2: his entire wine business, I believe, to finance or his
Speaker 2: half of the wine business, to finance a movie, to
Speaker 2: finance a movie that is is maybe the worst film
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Oh no, yeah, it feels tough.
Speaker 3: Wait, he's he financed by selling his wine company. Yes,
Speaker 3: and his wine company is very profitable and apparently people
Speaker 3: like the wine. Yeah, I've heard it's made more. It
Speaker 3: made him more money than his films.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to make him more money than this
Speaker 2: one will wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's been wanting to make it for decades. Right,
Speaker 2: he had this idea. Maybe he heard the word megalopolis
Speaker 2: and thought someone's got to make that movie, and has
Speaker 2: been trying and trying and failing and finally said, well,
Speaker 2: let's just sell my children's inheritance and make a movie
Speaker 2: out of it. And what better way to spend like
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars than on a movie
Speaker 2: of course, with a limited release.
Speaker 3: Who's in it?
Speaker 2: Adam Driver, Aubrey Plaza, John Voight, Jason Schwartzman. When I
Speaker 2: left the movie, he had had one line.
Speaker 3: Is it so? It's a long one it's about.
Speaker 2: It's not as long as you would think. It's two
Speaker 2: hours and twenty minutes. Okay, but it does. I started
Speaker 2: to feel a little sleepy.
Speaker 3: And you were in it was USA in the theater, yes,
Speaker 3: oh wow.
Speaker 2: And you know I saw people walking out that were
Speaker 2: clearly like, we didn't know what this was. We've got
Speaker 2: to get out of here.
Speaker 3: It was that bad.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh no.
Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Driver can control time or you can
Speaker 2: stop time, but it doesn't really play into the movie.
Speaker 2: Aubrey Plaza plays a character named Wow Platinum, who is
Speaker 2: a news reporter for the money Bunny.
Speaker 3: How does a movie I mean, I know it's cliche
Speaker 3: at this point, but how is it possible that one
Speaker 3: of the greatest filmmakers of the of our era, of
Speaker 3: the of the medium itself could make something so poor
Speaker 3: and not get financed, Like like nothing makes sense.
Speaker 2: I mean I imagine if this script was all that
Speaker 2: people were going on, that would be.
Speaker 3: The answer, right, and that so it speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the whole time I was thinking that
Speaker 2: theme of this movie is very much this is very
Speaker 2: important to your grandfather. I see, just essentially like Grandpa
Speaker 2: wants to make a movie and.
Speaker 3: So well, John Voyd is the first sign. Yeah. I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: he's an amazing actor, but his politics at this point
Speaker 3: supersede his talent. He's such a he's such a coup.
Speaker 2: He's crazy, he's such a coop. I mean they've kind
Speaker 2: of driven his driven Angelina away right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Far away. I mean he's there, No, they're no nowhere
Speaker 3: near each other. I feel like he speaks to her
Speaker 3: through like entertainment tonight. I think that's how they communicate.
Speaker 2: That's the only way to gate to a child. Yeah,
Speaker 2: John Tesh is the middleman.
Speaker 3: John Tesh. I still remember seeing a clip as a kid,
Speaker 3: or maybe I don't know how young I was, but
Speaker 3: of John Tesh, this is maniacal of him. I guess
Speaker 3: backstage at entertainment tonight or maybe on the road touring,
Speaker 3: but either way, he was backstage and he had a
Speaker 3: bowl of syria and he filled it with water instead
Speaker 3: of milk.
Speaker 2: By necessity or because that's what he prefers.
Speaker 3: That's what he prefers. Yeah, crazy, that's just that's psycholog
Speaker 3: that's psychologically deficient.
Speaker 2: When does that begin? I mean, was his mother serving
Speaker 2: him cereal covered in water who knows.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean you mix that with his
Speaker 3: like new age jazz and his religion. You know, wait,
Speaker 3: what's his really?
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware there was a religious aspect.
Speaker 3: I think he's evangelical Christian.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I believe, yeah, like hardcore hardcore.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, I think so unless I made
Speaker 3: that up. I mean, I know he's No, I believe
Speaker 3: that's that's true.
Speaker 2: Wow, all of these et reporters, Mary Heart's real conservative conservative?
Speaker 3: Yeah you want to. I mean all those that that
Speaker 3: line of thinking is already fascinating that somebody like Mary Hart,
Speaker 3: you know, is like aligned with just like celebrity gossip
Speaker 3: and la and then happens turns into like a Trumper.
Speaker 2: I thought these people had integrity.
Speaker 3: It's just so, I don't know. It's like you imagine
Speaker 3: somebody surrounded by, like I'm gonna say it, like gay
Speaker 3: makeup artists, you know, and hairstylists, and then they're like
Speaker 3: at Trump rallies. I don't know if she's is she
Speaker 3: a Trumper? Just because she is? Yeah? I think so too.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think her name would really be
Speaker 2: in the news other.
Speaker 3: No, no, No, it's it's no, it's like her Shazam
Speaker 3: and uh Chachizam. Who is the guy who played Shazam
Speaker 3: just came out for Trump.
Speaker 2: I have no idea who played Shazam.
Speaker 3: His name is Zachary Levi. He was on the RFK cruise.
Speaker 3: There was fundraising cruise out of Marina del Rey with
Speaker 3: dread Matteo Shazam. Sheryl Hines like, how did that not
Speaker 3: end in a mass suicide? That is so crazy? Isn't
Speaker 3: that crazy? And the poster for it was like barely
Speaker 3: done on Canva, like barely canva, like genuinely, like what
Speaker 3: program did you even use?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: But now Zachary Levi or Shazam is like he's going
Speaker 3: to Trump. He's out for Trump because he was an
Speaker 3: RFK stan Wow.
Speaker 2: On these cruises, do you think each of them is
Speaker 2: like everyone's a loser here but me?
Speaker 3: Who for RFK?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for any of these weird cruises. They're like I'm
Speaker 2: sure the rest of them suck and the bus or
Speaker 2: their careers failed. But I'm okay, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's I mean, I mean there's got to be
Speaker 3: a mass illusion going on there anyway, right, there has
Speaker 3: to be right, so you know, of course it takes.
Speaker 3: That's the next level of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cheryl Hines, for me is the most disappointing.
Speaker 3: I think disappointing.
Speaker 2: She plays such a common sense character on Curb and
Speaker 2: you're always like, I'm on Cheryl's.
Speaker 3: Correct, and then you're just like, oh him. I guess
Speaker 3: I think maybe when I thought a Kennedy, you know,
Speaker 3: if i'd learned about it maybe a year or two ago,
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, I guess Kennedy, Sure, but this one,
Speaker 3: this guy, I mean, he's just so bizarre. Are He's
Speaker 3: so he's so bizarre.
Speaker 2: The thing about Kennedy's is I don't associate Kennedy's with
Speaker 2: sun damage.
Speaker 3: No you don't.
Speaker 2: You kind of of course they're out on the beach,
Speaker 2: you know, but I feel like they're always taking care
Speaker 2: of themselves or they have good routine, nighttime routine. Yes,
Speaker 2: he is leather.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like they're they're very like, you know, Cape Cod, Yes,
Speaker 3: and he's very like Boca Modesto. Yeah, forget, forget, forget Boca.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, Tampa Baker's face. He's very Baker's Field. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's rough.
Speaker 2: Is a is a rough go So yeah, this cruise,
Speaker 2: Drea Damas. I mean, it's just interesting. You just watched
Speaker 2: the collision of a person's career falling apart in them
Speaker 2: joining these loser purposes like, oh no, now I've got
Speaker 2: some big ideas and this is the reason my I mean,
Speaker 2: the rest of you are the reason my career failed.
Speaker 2: And I'm a smart one.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I don't know, I don't really understand it,
Speaker 3: but I do. It's just so bizarre to live in
Speaker 3: a time where we've watched social media, you know, becomes
Speaker 3: so all consuming so quickly, but you can look at
Speaker 3: somebody's feed, or you can just look at their sort
Speaker 3: of like their their aesthetic. If you see skulls and crossbones,
Speaker 3: or you see red, white and blue, or you see flags,
Speaker 3: and you're like like you know what's coming, and you know,
Speaker 3: like Instagram, I think, I don't know how I even
Speaker 3: stumble on it. But Drea de Matteo, who I wouldn't
Speaker 3: think about in a million years of but she a
Speaker 3: clip of her floated up in through my algorithm of
Speaker 3: her on Megan Kelly's podcast. But it's just a clip
Speaker 3: where she's saying, I'm She's like, I'm from New York,
Speaker 3: so I've always loved Trump, And it's like, that's as
Speaker 3: a New Yorker. It's like, that's not how that sentence
Speaker 3: ends for anybody else ever, It's just like, I'm from
Speaker 3: New York and Trump was always a joke. And she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm from New York and I've always loved Trump. So
Speaker 3: I've always loved Trump. So but do you mean so
Speaker 3: as a joke? Not as a joke. It makes no
Speaker 3: but it's it's but that's the world we live in.
Speaker 3: Dread Matteo is like stumping for RFK and Trump and.
Speaker 2: And building buzz for her brand, building buzz her brand
Speaker 2: she does only fans like, Okay, it's all but it's all.
Speaker 3: This sort of circuitous. It's just a strange journey that's
Speaker 3: happening right for so many it feels very binary too.
Speaker 3: Oh of course, that's what's bizarre.
Speaker 2: And it feels like, Yeah, as soon as the career
Speaker 2: shows any signs of cracking, it's like, okay, we're rebranding,
Speaker 2: I'm revealing that I can't read right right and moving forward.
Speaker 3: Something there's a new, there's something is new in the narrative. Yeah,
Speaker 3: something is popping.
Speaker 2: Out or something's always been simmering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. That's the thing too. It's like I
Speaker 3: never thought twice about Shazam, you know, but he's said
Speaker 3: a couple of things that have been like questionable, and
Speaker 3: then it's like and then it like you're saying it,
Speaker 3: then it spills, and then it just fully you know,
Speaker 3: it's like he's at c with RFK and now he's
Speaker 3: just full on trump like okay, you know, like it
Speaker 3: it just but you're right, it's just like it's a
Speaker 3: it's sort of it comes out slowly and then it's a.
Speaker 2: Just a torrent a torrent. What Wasuzam before Shazam?
Speaker 3: What was Shazam before Shazam?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But did he was he? I think he was in
Speaker 3: maybe like a sitcom or something. Okay, I think he
Speaker 3: was in like some like two thousand sitcom. I'm not
Speaker 3: really sure he.
Speaker 2: Was in Chuck. He was then he was also like
Speaker 2: the male voice lead Entangled, which is what my brain
Speaker 2: goes to a rough Yeah, okay, interesting, Okay, So now
Speaker 2: I'm also saying a bit of a crossover with James L.
Speaker 2: Wood's playing Hades and Hercules. Oh yeah, so I wonder
Speaker 2: if there's a you know, he's getting need to.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, Like, do you need to know
Speaker 3: Shazam's politics.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I'm not voting until I hear from Shazam.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. Even the whole thing was like Chapel Roane. Oh,
Speaker 3: I love Chapel Roone, but I am not looking to
Speaker 3: her for advice on who to vote for.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are, I mean, And she seems
Speaker 2: to be making a lot of good points and very
Speaker 2: good points. Uh yeah, I'm like basically on her side.
Speaker 2: But it's like she shouldn't have to deal with this
Speaker 2: in any way.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's just like leave her alone. Like
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm sort of baffled by it. Yet, I
Speaker 3: guess to me, is like, Okay, that's the That might
Speaker 3: be one of a handful of people whose I think,
Speaker 3: whose voices are so you know, have such broad appeal
Speaker 3: that they could really affect things.
Speaker 2: Affecting local economies. Yes, exactly, I think that that's the.
Speaker 3: T there's college courses being taught about you somewhere. Yes, absolutely, yes,
Speaker 3: But I mean I don't just like leave her, leave
Speaker 3: Chapel alone, Like, leave her alone. She's great. Yeah, she's
Speaker 3: asked for that she's asked to be left alone.
Speaker 2: Leave her alone to make so, I mean, and for
Speaker 2: that feeling for her to have already started.
Speaker 3: Already it's been like three months, right.
Speaker 2: But this early in her career. Oh, it's not going
Speaker 2: to get any better.
Speaker 3: But I think that's reflective of where we are where.
Speaker 3: It's like her assent has been so quick, genuinely so fast,
Speaker 3: and the sort of parasocial element of social media, and
Speaker 3: like it's just you know, people are so into her
Speaker 3: and they yet so quickly seem to demand answers about
Speaker 3: her politics, and that when they disagree with her, they
Speaker 3: want to like tear her to It's just so weird.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 2: You wonder where these people were three months ago, three
Speaker 2: months what was happening in their brain politically, literally three
Speaker 2: months ready to be activated.
Speaker 3: It's so nuts, it's so nuts. I hope she's well.
Speaker 2: I think she will. I mean, she's at least making
Speaker 2: the moves to be to protect herself. Yes, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in her life that
Speaker 2: are like, stop doing that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure that too of that too. I love her,
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm very happy for her success. Yeah, of
Speaker 3: course she's exciting.
Speaker 2: She's exciting, she's saying whatever she wants.
Speaker 3: She's got a great voice, great voice. People like forget that.
Speaker 3: I think when they get excited about musicians or they
Speaker 3: get they have some sort of they develop that sort
Speaker 3: of parasocial or obsessive relationship the fandom of it all.
Speaker 3: But it's like she has a really unique voice. Like
Speaker 3: I'm a singer and I can recognize in her voice
Speaker 3: that she does like yodels. She has yodeling in her voice.
Speaker 2: Interesting cracks at the top of.
Speaker 3: Her tone when she hits these high notes and there's
Speaker 3: a little yodel at the top, And I'm like, that
Speaker 3: is awesome. We haven't heard that since like Alanis Morris.
Speaker 2: Wow, what an interesting Yeah, Lenea.
Speaker 3: She she can sing at the top of a register
Speaker 3: where it cracks, but she uses it to her benefit.
Speaker 3: It's part of her technique. And I'm like, that is
Speaker 3: so it's so special and new.
Speaker 2: And do you think that's on purpose?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, No, definitely on purpose. It's just her.
Speaker 3: It's just her style of like there's I feel like
Speaker 3: because of in this sort of twee Zoe dationell era
Speaker 3: of it all, like that the sort of like how
Speaker 3: would you describe it, the like whisper saying that like
Speaker 3: sort of like Caucasian Billie Holiday, you.
Speaker 2: Know that sound like a bike corn, what a bike
Speaker 2: horn bike corn?
Speaker 3: But that became like that sort of led into the
Speaker 3: ether a little bit and like became quirky, right, and
Speaker 3: then we've sort of I don't know, there's always been
Speaker 3: like there's always been melisma, which is riffing.
Speaker 2: Oh I've never heard the word melisma.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you know, you know, like Mariah Whitney, Aretha,
Speaker 3: Like there's always been that. But the sort of patterns
Speaker 3: of what is popular in pop music sort of ebbs
Speaker 3: and flows, but that always stays the same or at
Speaker 3: least since like the eighties, I would say, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's been persistent. But with someone like Chapel, she
Speaker 3: has a distinctive vocal technique that.
Speaker 2: I just find so exciting because it's different, right, and
Speaker 2: probably because it's difficult to do it can't become.
Speaker 3: Popular, definitely difficult. Definitely, Well you can do it easily
Speaker 3: and just be like h O T. You know, you
Speaker 3: can just do that. But she's just got a distinct
Speaker 3: technique when she sings like good Luck Babe. It's just
Speaker 3: like that's a hard song to sing, right.
Speaker 2: So hard. I do want to hear that version of
Speaker 2: Hot to Go, which one kind of joddo it sound
Speaker 2: like a like a personal injury jingle.
Speaker 3: There's a guy on Instagram. This is a terrible to say,
Speaker 3: just like on a podcast when I don't even know
Speaker 3: his name. Oh, I shouldn't even say it. There's a
Speaker 3: guy on Instagram who's found a niche in singing pop
Speaker 3: songs like b Arthur, Oh my God, and it's glory.
Speaker 3: It brings me so much joy. It's glorious.
Speaker 2: But see, this actually will probably benefit him because there'll
Speaker 2: be a bunch of listeners being like, it's this guy.
Speaker 2: Then they're going to be lighting up the comments. Oh,
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be getting more buzz. I hope
Speaker 2: building buzz for this guy.
Speaker 3: I mean it's and it's not just like he's doing
Speaker 3: b Arthur. He's doing like Darthy's born a like talk
Speaker 3: singing about it's so it's so like, it's so for me,
Speaker 3: you know, it's.
Speaker 1: So for me.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy about it.
Speaker 2: I saw a Vanity play the other day that said
Speaker 2: D's bornac really it's great, which is great, but also
Speaker 2: a little I'm like, I'm not quite sure what we're
Speaker 2: communicating somebody that I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like such a Golden Girls, you know, fanatic
Speaker 3: that I have b Arthur on my.
Speaker 2: Arm, be on my arm. That's oh wow, that's beautiful
Speaker 2: Arthur there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, she's it's a big part of my life.
Speaker 3: I would say, do.
Speaker 2: You play Connections? Oh yeah, this morning, You've got to
Speaker 2: play this morning?
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh I'm excited.
Speaker 2: There's a real uh I guess maybe a red herring.
Speaker 2: Oh the Golden Girls.
Speaker 3: Okay, so just be prepared. Okay, I'm gonna look out
Speaker 3: because it's gonna it's gonna say Dorothy Blanche.
Speaker 2: That is what I'll say, Okay, and.
Speaker 3: Its lie.
Speaker 2: It can be very, very sneaky.
Speaker 3: They're very sneaky on connection.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like you should be able to make
Speaker 2: your case.
Speaker 3: Yes, you'd be like, well, but.
Speaker 2: This actually does connect, and unfortunately you have to let
Speaker 2: me have it.
Speaker 3: I agree. It's sometimes they're but that's you know, they're
Speaker 3: they're playing close to the vest, extremely close. It's a
Speaker 3: little it's a little rude, but I guess I wouldn't
Speaker 3: expect otherwise from the New York Times. It's a little snooty,
Speaker 3: a little tricky.
Speaker 2: You never quite know where it stands. It might surprise
Speaker 2: you in bad ways.
Speaker 3: What do you feel? How do you feel about the news?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call it? What it's called
Speaker 3: squiggle it's not called squiggles.
Speaker 2: I don't know this one, but I like that could
Speaker 2: be in the next game.
Speaker 3: It's like kind of like word banky oh man, I
Speaker 3: forget wait.
Speaker 2: Is kind of almost like a word search. Yes, I've
Speaker 2: played this one. Anything that comes close to a word search,
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 3: I'm into it. Okay, I'm into it.
Speaker 2: There's a there's that element of just uh, finding a
Speaker 2: word among letters that write bugs men.
Speaker 3: But there's a there's an element in encouraging you to
Speaker 3: make words, and then when you get when you find
Speaker 3: enough words that are actual words, that's a hint to
Speaker 3: help solve the rest of the puzzle, which are thematically
Speaker 3: themed span gram that's what it's called.
Speaker 2: Do you get kind of like coins almost that you
Speaker 2: can use.
Speaker 3: To essentially, Yeah, essentially I could.
Speaker 2: Give it another shot. Yeah, I'm doing connections, I'm doing
Speaker 2: the mini crossword and.
Speaker 3: What's your order? In all four hours, and what do
Speaker 3: you do? Which ones do you do? And what's the order?
Speaker 2: I do connections first. Okay, connections. You really don't know
Speaker 2: how much time it's going to do.
Speaker 3: That's why I do it last.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, I spend almost all of my mental
Speaker 2: energy on connections, gotcha. And then I get into the
Speaker 2: mini crossword, which is essentially like a Highlights magazine level difficulty,
Speaker 2: and try to beat that out as quickly as possible. Sure,
Speaker 2: and then I'm on with my day, which is just
Speaker 2: doing nothing right.
Speaker 3: So you don't touch letterbox or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2: Now letterbox reds the movie review webs.
Speaker 3: Actually I'm forgetting on the red one.
Speaker 2: The red one.
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that one where you like connect
Speaker 3: letters and you have to make a word, but that
Speaker 3: word has to only have one of each essentially one
Speaker 3: of each letter in it.
Speaker 2: Is that like spelling B?
Speaker 3: No a yellow one? I know colors?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's spelling B. Of course they want it
Speaker 2: to be kind of honey. And yes, the red one
Speaker 2: I'm not even familiar with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like kind of like you're kind of a
Speaker 3: connecting it actually is letterboxed letterbox.
Speaker 2: Wow. But what is the app? There is a D,
Speaker 2: but there's no E. It's Letterboxed without the E, and
Speaker 2: New York Times is with an E.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's got to be a suit.
Speaker 2: I'm happy class action. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: There's legally is waiting to be This is an unfurled here.
Speaker 2: You're seeing the effects immediately, of course. Yes, I'm getting
Speaker 2: my games and my reviews by straight men mixed up.
Speaker 2: It's very difficult to keep track up. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: I'll have to look into letterbox I've looked.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I love letterboxed all just guessing words.
Speaker 3: I love Letterboxed. I've never used the app letter Boxed.
Speaker 3: I've never used that app. But I play the game.
Speaker 2: I've browsed the apps and never played the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, play the game. Got to get I don't touch
Speaker 3: the crossword puzzle really, not even the mini. The mini
Speaker 3: I can kind of. It just makes me feel so
Speaker 3: stupid when I don't figure out the mini too quickly.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, the big ones, I'm just like, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I need like letters and colors.
Speaker 2: Well, the big one is a project. It's not a object.
Speaker 2: It is a project. It's hours long, yes, and I
Speaker 2: just don't. I mean, I absolutely have the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and well maybe not the energy, right, but I'm not
Speaker 2: getting into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Well, there is something we should get into that's probably
Speaker 2: a little bit more important and probably equally is confusing.
Speaker 2: And the podcast is called I said no gifts. I
Speaker 2: was naturally looking forward to having you here today. I thought, Ellie,
Speaker 2: it'll come by. He'll bring the dog. I haven't even
Speaker 2: mentioned to the listener yet that your dog most is
Speaker 2: glorious dog. So that's a fun surprise for everybody's They
Speaker 2: probably felt his presence.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I was really excited to have you here, and so
Speaker 2: I was a little bit Yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the word is at this point. I had to
Speaker 2: tamp down some feelings.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I saw you walk into my backyard holding a
Speaker 2: beautiful gift bag that I immediately assumed was for me,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I try not to
Speaker 2: assume too often. Sure, I thought, why would anyone give
Speaker 2: on a Lisa gift? Okay, And so I thought, of course.
Speaker 1: It's for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have anything to say about this?
Speaker 3: Or it is for you? Okay, do you want to
Speaker 3: know what it is?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me to open it? Here
Speaker 2: on the podcast, you can open it. Okay, okay, we're
Speaker 2: getting into the beautiful gift bag.
Speaker 3: I will say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got these little tasteful penguins wearing party hats,
Speaker 2: little party hats. I draw a lot of parts when
Speaker 2: I'm doodling. Anytime I doodle a character, there's like a
Speaker 2: nine out of ten chance that I'm going to draw
Speaker 2: a party hat on top.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Really, it's a little secret to doodlers. Oh interesting, I
Speaker 2: had a unique element to your day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2: It's an easy thing to draw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only draw faces.
Speaker 2: Well, the face can have a party had.
Speaker 3: I'm going to put a party had on a face.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm opening.
Speaker 3: Oh in the ribbon's part of the bagh.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're pulling this out.
Speaker 3: Oh late.
Speaker 2: It's the book Ladies Who Punch The explosive inside story
Speaker 2: of the View. Yes, I will eat this up.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's by Ramen Situta, and it is uh quite
Speaker 3: a read.
Speaker 2: Why did you bring this here today?
Speaker 3: Because it's the it's a great book, and you deserve
Speaker 3: a great book. You need a good read. I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've actually been in the I've been in the
Speaker 2: market for a non fiction easy to read, you know,
Speaker 2: to page Turner.
Speaker 3: An expose and exposed. I love this will do it,
Speaker 3: This will do it. There's a lot of Rosy, which
Speaker 3: is Rosie. Then I think subsequently said that she was
Speaker 3: the biggest mistake of her like like the biggest book.
Speaker 3: Whoopy said nothing because she's not involved. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 3: they watched the show every day, every single day.
Speaker 2: They put on the cover and Whoop is on the cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what could you do? I mean, whoop be,
Speaker 3: Barbara Walters and Rosie are on the cover and who else?
Speaker 2: I mean did they talk to I mean they've talked
Speaker 2: to Liz Hasselback.
Speaker 3: They talked to Liz Hasselback. There's Debbie, Matt Napolis. I think, oh,
Speaker 3: definitely is this I mean Star Jones.
Speaker 2: Of course, does Barbara Walters?
Speaker 3: I God, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Well, if they didn't get Barb I forgot what was
Speaker 2: I think it might have been written after she passed. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think let's say I'm saying quotes from her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if not, then she definitely had some
Speaker 3: you know, had to be part of it right, you
Speaker 3: got it. You know you can't not talk to Barbara.
Speaker 3: But Whoopee certainly Whoodby. I'm a huge you know, view
Speaker 3: fan and like one of the most I think it's
Speaker 3: it's baffling parts of the show is how Whoopee is
Speaker 3: there but seems to hate the job okay, and when
Speaker 3: she's asked about it sort of off the air, like
Speaker 3: in press or whatever, or in interviews, she literally is like,
Speaker 3: it's just my job. I show up and I do
Speaker 3: my job. But she really seems to not just do
Speaker 3: the job but have like but resent the.
Speaker 2: Show, public contempt for this.
Speaker 3: She's so interesting to me, it's so weird.
Speaker 2: Helicopter has been there for a while. I think that
Speaker 2: the criminal is in the backyard and she's probably been there.
Speaker 3: She's been there for very so long. She's been there
Speaker 3: for so long. I think twenty years.
Speaker 2: Is after Barbara Walters. Is she the longest?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: I would what? I is that right? Maybe joy might
Speaker 3: be heavy since I think she was fired briefly, but
Speaker 3: but yeah, who no, No, I think Joey's probably been
Speaker 3: there a little bit longer.
Speaker 2: Do we know the shortest tenure, the.
Speaker 3: Shortest tenure, I would guess would be Abby. Uh, I
Speaker 3: forget her last name, Bobby. She's the daughter of a politician,
Speaker 3: Abby Huntsman.
Speaker 2: Abbie Huntsman. Now, is she the daughter of John Huntsman? Yes,
Speaker 2: the Utah politicians.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: How was that?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: I grew up in Salike and that family's name is
Speaker 2: all over everything.
Speaker 3: She's a Huntsman.
Speaker 2: They donated to all kinds of things, I'm sure, and
Speaker 2: they're Mormon, but I think they were kind. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think, by nature of being ultra wealthy and kind
Speaker 2: of of the world, was probably a little more moderate
Speaker 2: or something maybe.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's very she was very like TV friendly,
Speaker 3: but kind of kind of cold. And they tried to
Speaker 3: make her sort of like the softer antidote to Megan McCain. Okay,
Speaker 3: and it just didn't. She just wasn't particularly interesting, I
Speaker 3: would say, right, you know, she tried to be I
Speaker 3: think a little more moderate, but right, it wasn't really interesting.
Speaker 2: And the view there's not that m for my behavior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although they're Republican now is fantastic.
Speaker 2: What's this person's name?
Speaker 3: Her name is Alissa Alyssa. Oh, Okay, she's great, she's
Speaker 3: like she's a Republican, but she's like very intelligent. She
Speaker 3: worked for Trump, which is wild. She worked in that
Speaker 3: White House and speaks so poorly of it, okay, but
Speaker 3: not in a way where you feel like she's like thirsty.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: She left because of you know, January sixth, right, which
Speaker 3: is in my opinion, a little too late, But okay,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, of course, there's always that underlying
Speaker 3: question of like why were you there? How could you
Speaker 3: be there in the first place if you have like
Speaker 3: functioning brain cells, you know, or like as long as
Speaker 3: you were, But she does seem like a very decent person, okay.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just I like her vibe.
Speaker 2: She's got some skeletons in her closet.
Speaker 3: Maybe, but she's also just like she she has the
Speaker 3: sort of Republican answer to everything in a sort of
Speaker 3: in a in a benefit of the benefit of the
Speaker 3: doubt in her way or not even not even Devil's advocate. Like.
Speaker 3: She tries to be pretty fair minded, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Tries to make you understand how someone could believe these
Speaker 2: I think, so, yes, which I well, I assume is valueable.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but it's also like the reason
Speaker 3: that I'm obsessed with the show, and I've only been
Speaker 3: watched it obsessively since our do you know Michelle Collins?
Speaker 3: Oh course, I love Michelle, Love Michelle, and she when
Speaker 3: she went back on When she went on the show
Speaker 3: is when I started watching.
Speaker 2: Oh this so it's a pretty recent thing. It's not
Speaker 2: like you started watching in middle school.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no, that's pretty recent. But when
Speaker 3: I started watching with Michelle, I was baffled by a
Speaker 3: that her joke, her incredible lightning fast humor was like
Speaker 3: lost on the audience.
Speaker 2: Tough place to be.
Speaker 3: But that's where I got so baffled because it was like,
Speaker 3: how is that happening in New York? Like I just
Speaker 3: didn't get it. And subsequently I realized that the show
Speaker 3: with and without Michelle is like a it's like always always,
Speaker 3: always on the verge of utter chaos, always always in
Speaker 3: the verge of utter chaos, if not fully there.
Speaker 2: That they've been able to keep it on for this
Speaker 2: long I know, And it's interesting.
Speaker 3: It has a really interesting take on politics because they
Speaker 3: they all have different interests, but they're good at like
Speaker 3: digesting politics in a way or dissecting politics in a
Speaker 3: way that is broad. But yet again it's always in
Speaker 3: the verge of chaos because the audience seems completely like
Speaker 3: not there. They're like baffled or clueless. It's so weird,
Speaker 3: that's my question. And the leader of the you know,
Speaker 3: the sort of MC whoopee who is like insistent upon
Speaker 3: being the moderator and like, you know, really hurting the crew,
Speaker 3: I guess you would say, is again, like you said,
Speaker 3: contemptuous for being there and her often her job there
Speaker 3: is breaks the fourth wall.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's speaking to the viewer at home.
Speaker 3: It's not that, it's that she talks about what's going
Speaker 3: on on the production. Oh, while the show is on.
Speaker 3: Who so she like gets mad at the producer for
Speaker 3: telling her to rap. She talks to the control room
Speaker 3: without explaining that she's talking to the control room. She's
Speaker 3: like mad at the teleprompter. It is baffling. It is
Speaker 3: truly like and what's I mean. That's what's so interesting
Speaker 3: is that it's a successful morning show in a world
Speaker 3: where every other like the formula of a morning show
Speaker 3: is that sort of like squeaky, squeaky clean, right, you know,
Speaker 3: shiny happy exactly like a very like contained vibe and
Speaker 3: this show is on the verge of chaos at all
Speaker 3: times times. I don't know, you should watch it.
Speaker 2: Have you seen any big fights?
Speaker 3: It's not even that, that's the thing. It's not even
Speaker 3: the like Megan and Megan would have fights with Joy
Speaker 3: or Megan would have fights with Whoopee. And during COVID
Speaker 3: there's Zoo. The show on Zoom was off the like
Speaker 3: just off the rails, truly off the rails. But back
Speaker 3: in the studio there's not really fights per se. But
Speaker 3: that's what's interesting. When it gets heated, it feels very
Speaker 3: real and awkward, which is like, again, very different from
Speaker 3: any political round table show anything, Right, So that's what
Speaker 3: that it's it sort of has that electric electricity to it.
Speaker 3: And then I genuinely like lose interest when they veer
Speaker 3: into like guests or pop culture. It's like the more
Speaker 3: they talk about politics or themselves, the more interested I am.
Speaker 2: What time does it air.
Speaker 3: The LA It's eleven, Okay, I mean I watch you
Speaker 3: at night? Oh interesting, yeah, yeah, I watch your hour. Yeah,
Speaker 3: certainly after hours. It's actually your former your former guest
Speaker 3: HLN Scott, my dear friend. I'll send him like you know,
Speaker 3: like ten or eleven at night. I'll be like, what
Speaker 3: is what be you talking about? Because he watches too,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is she Because she'll say things.
Speaker 3: She will literally say things in gobblygook word cell that
Speaker 3: refer to things that you don't I don't even know
Speaker 3: what she's talking about, you know, like she's trying to
Speaker 3: make a point but referencing things that we aren't aware
Speaker 3: that she's referencing zero context, zero context, and so it's
Speaker 3: and it gets very like ambiguous. So it's just so confusing.
Speaker 3: When she's like, I have to make a point. She
Speaker 3: gets mad too because she needs she's a moderator, so
Speaker 3: she gives the question or the topic exactly, and she
Speaker 3: gets really mad when they don't get back to her
Speaker 3: in time, which is when she gets indignant with the
Speaker 3: producers in the control room at the camera. So weird.
Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's like, but you're on a live
Speaker 3: TV show and you've been doing this for so long.
Speaker 3: I'm figure it out?
Speaker 2: Have you?
Speaker 3: How have you not figured it out yet? It's so
Speaker 3: and again I only say that knowing that that is
Speaker 3: just her on she was on broad City, right, she
Speaker 3: did a walk on on Broad City and I went
Speaker 3: there on I wasn't on or writing or anything that day,
Speaker 3: but I had to go meet her and she was
Speaker 3: so like. Meeting her was like, oh, this is why
Speaker 3: she's It's not just that she's, you know, a great actress.
Speaker 3: It was like she exudes the kind of charm and
Speaker 3: warmth that like you don't you don't find every day,
Speaker 3: and I didn't I had. I mean, I met her
Speaker 3: so briefly and then I was in here and makeup
Speaker 3: and just saying goodbye to my sister and Abby and
Speaker 3: just you know, leaving and I was like nice and
Speaker 3: Whoopy was there and I was like nice to me,
Speaker 3: and she's like because I gave a Lon and Abby
Speaker 3: hugs as I do, right, And She's like, I don't
Speaker 3: get a hug.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, for a celebrity
Speaker 2: to ask for the hug for whoopee wow.
Speaker 3: Oh whoopy yes wow. No I get a hug. Like
Speaker 3: if we're hugging, I get the hug.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: I get to embrace you like she is. She is,
Speaker 3: that is her where you're just like, oh you are
Speaker 3: her charm and warmth and likability as a person is
Speaker 3: so contagious.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably that can't have not you know,
Speaker 3: attributed to her success.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, that's what's so interesting is like watching
Speaker 3: her on the view, you can see her connect with
Speaker 3: people in that way, but then at the same time
Speaker 3: she seems like she you know, like hell, hath no
Speaker 3: fury or whatever when it comes to her being wrapped.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to go to a break and
Speaker 3: she's like, no, no, I'm going to say this. She
Speaker 3: gets mad when they play the music over her. It's like,
Speaker 3: it's so funny. It's like every day is day one.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Do you have any good things to share from this book,
Speaker 2: any nice little gems about the don't?
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, it's just about it is about like
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hasselback and Barbara Sparring. Oh, that's the most interesting
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 2: I'm, of course on Elizabeth's side in every situation.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you'll be even more so on her
Speaker 3: side when you read What Happened Back?
Speaker 2: Wait, is that actually true? Oh yeah, Oh, I mean
Speaker 2: I'm not on her side in any situation.
Speaker 3: I mean me either, But like when you read the
Speaker 3: book and you see the way that she was sort
Speaker 3: of I don't know the way that I hate to
Speaker 3: say I'm manipulated, but Okay, despite having zero in common
Speaker 3: with her as a person or her politics, I can
Speaker 3: understand why she would be so upset, right and feel
Speaker 3: so maligned when you read the context about what was
Speaker 3: going on, because Barbara was a shark, and like as
Speaker 3: much as she seemed like a you know, she was
Speaker 3: like the real gold standard of journalism, she's also a
Speaker 3: shark and like the producer in her is so real.
Speaker 3: And that's what you'll get from the book.
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 3: So interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I mean, as far as Rosie goes, I feel like
Speaker 2: Rosie history is finally correcting itself about Rosio dom you think, so,
Speaker 2: I feel like she's coming back out on top.
Speaker 3: How so.
Speaker 2: I feel like there were some years in the wilderness
Speaker 2: where people were like, you know, she's difficult, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and now I feel like the public is like, no,
Speaker 2: Rosie's right almost all the time. She says what she wants. Yes,
Speaker 2: and we also loved her in the nineties. I think
Speaker 2: that's correct, and it's nice to see kind of a correction.
Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I think it's like her wisdom
Speaker 3: and her sort of like relatability has returned right on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't use TikTok, but she I see
Speaker 3: stuff she reposts on Instagram. Right, it's very boomer sure,
Speaker 3: not sure how to use technology. But I love her.
Speaker 3: I love her poetry. I loved her blog when she
Speaker 3: had a Paiku blog.
Speaker 2: I didn't know she had a blog.
Speaker 3: She had a Rosie had a Haiku blog. Love that.
Speaker 3: I love her. She grew up a town, a town
Speaker 3: next to me. I'm the Island, So I just it's
Speaker 3: my experience with her as a kid, and watching the
Speaker 3: show pretty religiously was interesting because it felt so close,
Speaker 3: right because of her accent, because it was in New York,
Speaker 3: because this yeah, and it was like, I'm I was
Speaker 3: like a closeted kid who was like into theater, and
Speaker 3: they she had theater on the show. It was just
Speaker 3: all very coated, you know, she wasn't out. But and
Speaker 3: of course I'm like a gay kid, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: she loves Tom Cruise, you know, loves Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2: She loves that guy.
Speaker 3: He's so hot, he's so sexual and hot. He's so sexual,
Speaker 3: exudes sexual. It's like what you know. But I think
Speaker 3: time has has worked on her side. Where you're right,
Speaker 3: there was like a valley and now she's like returning
Speaker 3: to a peece of some kind.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm very happy for her.
Speaker 3: She could be. She could honestly do anything she wants.
Speaker 2: She really could. And she honestly is a great actor,
Speaker 2: great actor, excellent actor.
Speaker 3: She does Howard Stern's show occasionally because they were Howard
Speaker 3: was relentless to her in the nineties, very mean. Oh
Speaker 3: I didn't know this, yeah, and they and so she
Speaker 3: was scared of him m because he was a scary man, right,
Speaker 3: And then I became a huge Howard fan once he
Speaker 3: started doing like psychotherapy and became very, very, very evolved.
Speaker 3: And people don't know that because right, because this reputation proceeds. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: but he's so evolved. He's so a huge advocate for
Speaker 3: queer LGBT, like he's on the right side of things.
Speaker 3: You never know if you didn't listen. But he has
Speaker 3: rose on because they're now friends. She is such an
Speaker 3: interesting guest because she's so smart.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's incredibly intelligent, incredibly intelligent and yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess so is he so smart?
Speaker 2: I mean, whenever he would be on Letterman or at
Speaker 2: least like later years, I'd always be like, oh, these
Speaker 2: are such fast interviews.
Speaker 3: Oh. I mean he's he's a brilliant guy, you know,
Speaker 3: and he can play you know, he can play it
Speaker 3: off as being like, well, I'm into like toilet humor
Speaker 3: and stuff. But he's also an incredible interviewer and the
Speaker 3: show is has levels that levels of depth that I
Speaker 3: can't even describe in words that you can. He can
Speaker 3: do toilet humor, really raunchy toilet sex humor, and then
Speaker 3: in the next breath be interviewing Bruce Springsteen and it's
Speaker 3: like a transcendent interview.
Speaker 2: How long does that show go on each day? Is
Speaker 2: three hours?
Speaker 3: He does three days a week and it's usually four hours.
Speaker 2: Do you listen to the whole thing?
Speaker 3: I have to break it up.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of.
Speaker 3: If I'm like a in a writer's room, like I
Speaker 3: really get behind right of course. But if I'm not
Speaker 3: and I'm like doing my own thing, you know, I
Speaker 3: can I listen. I mean I also listen to like
Speaker 3: repeats and old episodes constantly. I've done the wrap up
Speaker 3: show for stern a Bunch and I just I'm so
Speaker 3: into it. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he used to be five days a week?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: God, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is there a period where people or listening to twenty
Speaker 2: hours of him a week?
Speaker 3: I think probably when he was on terrestrial radio okay,
Speaker 3: when he went to Sirius in the like mid two thousands.
Speaker 3: He I think that's when he switched to three days
Speaker 3: a week. Oh okay, because he could could do whatever
Speaker 3: he wants.
Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, of course he can. I mean, he's why
Speaker 2: do anything exactly, So do whatever you wants.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: Do you have any interest in being in the live
Speaker 2: audience of the view.
Speaker 3: Not particularly. I don't know, I really don't. It's really like, honestly,
Speaker 3: it's like it's better observed from behind the TV screen.
Speaker 3: That being said, Just to sort of dovetail this conversation together,
Speaker 3: there is an amazing clip of that somebody took in
Speaker 3: the audience at the view when Rosie was on, and
Speaker 3: she's she can't help but engage with the audience, like
Speaker 3: standing and talking to them, and she starts talking about
Speaker 3: her nine to eleven conspiracy theories. It's like in a
Speaker 3: commercial break people are like making her up, you know,
Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, faya can't melt steal that
Speaker 3: just can't happen or whatever, you know, metal, whatever the
Speaker 3: conspiracy is. Yeah, she's like, she's she's in deep her
Speaker 3: and of all people in the world. Character actress Christine Ebersol,
Speaker 3: I know that name. She's let me look, she's an actress.
Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe her. She's like
Speaker 3: a you'd know her face. Yeah, I'm pretty sure her actress.
Speaker 3: She's on I think she was on SM only eighties briefly.
Speaker 2: Of course, she's a huge imagine her. I mean I
Speaker 2: can this is one thing I'll say. I can see
Speaker 2: her rapidly clicking a mouse at a computer. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 2: and that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Of course. What kind of computer though, you think a
Speaker 3: laptop or.
Speaker 2: This is a I mean it's not even a flat
Speaker 2: screen coming out exactly.
Speaker 3: It's a massive it's a massive desktop computer.
Speaker 2: And she was looking like this.
Speaker 3: I love it. She doesn't know she's like on FaceTime.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I love it. Boomer boomers and computers are
Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Fascinating combination of worlds.
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed my mom, My mom. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: she got the iPhone sixteen and I'm like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? She has literally ruined
Speaker 3: relationships by texting diatribes that are misspelled and like unwanted.
Speaker 3: She has ruined relationships. And I've said, I'm like, if
Speaker 3: I had one wish, it would be that her iPhone
Speaker 3: every time she touched it turned into a Nokia a
Speaker 3: flip phone. That it was basic, basic, basic, basic, you know, qualities,
Speaker 3: just calls, maybe some T nine but that's it, right, right.
Speaker 2: Was there ever a period when she was signing her
Speaker 2: texts Mom.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was there. You mean yes? My dad
Speaker 3: does that still, which we've said, like, Dad, you don't
Speaker 3: need to do this, and he's like, I know, he
Speaker 3: knows better. I think it's so cute. But he also
Speaker 3: hasn't he doesn't have the same relationship with technology that
Speaker 3: my mom does. For my mom's is like I can
Speaker 3: see her anxiety spilt, you know, spern not spurn spiral
Speaker 3: out right, the way she has many so many apps open,
Speaker 3: She's on so many websites. She has a ton that
Speaker 3: are on her home screen on her phone. Even though
Speaker 3: they're just links to Facebook.
Speaker 2: She opens a new one every time she wants to
Speaker 2: get into.
Speaker 3: Facebook correct and puts on her home screen instead of
Speaker 3: like bookmarking, it's it's it's wild and like, I don't
Speaker 3: Facebook scares the Jesus out of me. It's so scary.
Speaker 3: But I will go on every now and then to
Speaker 3: just make sure that she hasn't posted anything. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all like you know, it's all far left, sure,
Speaker 3: the liberal boomer stuff, but sometimes you just want to.
Speaker 2: Be like, no, not this, not this, this one's wrong,
Speaker 2: not this untrue.
Speaker 3: I think also because of Facebook, she says to us,
Speaker 3: now love you to the moon and back, and my
Speaker 3: sister and I are like, you never said this? Come back?
Speaker 3: Like where did you? She's not she's not a home
Speaker 3: goods you know.
Speaker 2: She saw that on a pillow on Facebook's.
Speaker 3: But that's what I mean. It's like, she's not a
Speaker 3: she doesn't have anything in the house, has like kissed
Speaker 3: the cook or like always kiss me good night. But
Speaker 3: because of Facebook, I think she's seen enough that she's like,
Speaker 3: love you to the moon and back.
Speaker 2: We've got to find out where that came from.
Speaker 3: I I well, I also don't want to know. Part
Speaker 3: of me wants to know, but part of me is like,
Speaker 3: just let that be a mystery.
Speaker 2: Wow, somebody's got to write a book on the beginning
Speaker 2: of love you to the moon and back, because whoever
Speaker 2: that is is a fascinating place.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I still remember a friend of mine
Speaker 3: when we were younger, her parents, her mom had all
Speaker 3: those platitudes or like on like drift fake drift food
Speaker 3: or whatever, and she hung a sign over the toilet
Speaker 3: that said always kiss me good night, and we were like, here, here.
Speaker 2: That's the only place that right, here's the toilet, the toilet,
Speaker 2: get in bed.
Speaker 3: Awful. I those spook me out.
Speaker 2: They're very odd, very odd, meaningless.
Speaker 3: But that's what's so spooky at them is that people
Speaker 3: adopt them as like meaning and they're meaningless. Yes, they're meaningless.
Speaker 3: Oh what is it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: My favorite one that I saw was like in Nana's house,
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 2: We've got to set some boundaries.
Speaker 3: For disaster.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like those are kind of belong
Speaker 2: to boomers, and I think for millennials it's the pink
Speaker 2: neon sign, which is just.
Speaker 4: Like the podcast background now right, wild drugs or whateverage, Right, savager,
Speaker 4: get it, get it, yeah, girl boss so odd.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out if gen Z if there
Speaker 2: are any signs of their future humiliation, and.
Speaker 3: They're like, it's your fault. You're wrong, you're right, you
Speaker 3: are wrong about this, and this is why, this is
Speaker 3: why you're canceled. It's so weird. Yeah, that that that
Speaker 3: you're right, that neon pink sign is petrifying. It's absolutely really,
Speaker 3: you're right. It's like the millennial version of like boomer
Speaker 3: rustic driftwood, inspirational driftwood.
Speaker 2: You want to feel like you're at the ace, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're like eighty years old.
Speaker 3: It's why my first like writing drop that was hard
Speaker 3: comedy was on New Girl. Oh sure, and in my
Speaker 3: office as like a bit, I bought so many of
Speaker 3: those pieces of shitty driftwood and hung them. It was
Speaker 3: I guess you could say it's like art. I hung,
Speaker 3: like no joke, like twenty five of them because I
Speaker 3: think it's so funny that the chaos of all these
Speaker 3: empty platitudes coming together, where it's like they're already meaningless
Speaker 3: on their own, but seeing you know, live, laugh, love,
Speaker 3: you know, dance like no one's watching. Always kiss me
Speaker 3: good night. Seeing that all in one place is like exhausting.
Speaker 2: I imagine they start to fight each other. They do.
Speaker 2: They're like, how can I piece of life together? You
Speaker 2: don't know what?
Speaker 3: How to find a personality from all of this. It's
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 2: It's whiplash, a fractured person. Yes, wow, credible, Well I
Speaker 2: think we should. It's time to play a game. Okay
Speaker 2: today I think it's a gift Master on releas. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm good. I need a number between one and ten from.
Speaker 3: You, Okay, so I can say it. Yes, Okay, I'll
Speaker 3: say six.
Speaker 2: Okay. I need to do some like calculating with your
Speaker 2: number right now to get our game pieces. Okay, so
Speaker 2: you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone.
Speaker 3: I'll be right. Okay, I'm here. The shows that I
Speaker 3: would would be promoting will have happened prior to this airing.
Speaker 3: They will have been in Cleveland, Indianapolis, and Chicago. But
Speaker 3: if you go to my website or my Instagram or
Speaker 3: my link tree, you'll find dates for future shows once
Speaker 3: those are made available. Also here in the backyard today
Speaker 3: is Moses, my dog, who is a perfect boy, the
Speaker 3: perfect boy, and You're also welcome to go to my
Speaker 3: Instagram to see pictures of him and now Bridges back
Speaker 3: on the mic.
Speaker 2: Beautiful Moses was not booked on the podcast, so for
Speaker 2: the promotion here, it's kind of gross.
Speaker 3: He's the best.
Speaker 2: No, we'll have to take a picture with him. Are
Speaker 2: going to be furious.
Speaker 3: I know he's he's honestly, he is. I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 3: It's not good.
Speaker 2: He's beautiful. What kind of dog is he?
Speaker 3: Well, he's a rescue, so I don't know for sure.
Speaker 3: But every animal that every breed that I've looked at
Speaker 3: called low chen. Oh and I've never heard of low chen.
Speaker 3: That is him. Okay, he is a low Chen to
Speaker 3: the max to the max lo Chin to the max
Speaker 3: and uh, not to brag, but he is a volunteer
Speaker 3: at the Children's hospital. Now my heart, he is perfection.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet.
Speaker 3: He's a perfect boy.
Speaker 2: I always feel a twinge of guilt when I ask
Speaker 2: somebody what kind of dog their dog is, because I
Speaker 2: obviously am rescue only. Oh I mean, but I always
Speaker 2: feel like, do they think that I'm I run a
Speaker 2: puppy meal? Like there's a brief second where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna assume that I'm like some sort.
Speaker 3: Of no not although do I have time to tell
Speaker 3: you a little a little anecdote. Of course. I ran
Speaker 3: into a guy who I went out with a couple
Speaker 3: of times. It was two was too many, one was
Speaker 3: too many, and he was like, and I was at
Speaker 3: how his dog was. His dog was named Prada, which
Speaker 3: I should have you know, I should have known, biggest possible,
Speaker 3: should have known. And he said, well, Prada died because vets.
Speaker 3: Prada was a French bulldog. Prada died because vets see
Speaker 3: French bulldogs and they see cash. And he said a
Speaker 3: vet killed the dog and now he's suing the vet.
Speaker 3: What And I felt immense remorse for that. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to say. And then before I could even
Speaker 3: really offer condolences, he said, but my next dog is
Speaker 3: going to be a furry frenchie. And I was like,
Speaker 3: what's a furry frenchie. He's like, they're French bulldogs, but
Speaker 3: they're furry, and he said it's either that or a
Speaker 3: new car. And I had to restrain, I mean genuinely,
Speaker 3: like I had to restrain all my inner like like
Speaker 3: pan sexual. I'm not pan sexual, but like my pan
Speaker 3: sexual vibeness, you know, the sort of pan rescue only,
Speaker 3: adoption only, uh crunchy vibes and just just bite my
Speaker 3: tongue and nod without like choking him. Oh what are
Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? Those dogs can't breathe.
Speaker 2: Man, he's going to get a furry French you name
Speaker 2: it g wagon. Oh, just be prepared world.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Prada?
Speaker 2: Awful?
Speaker 3: Those are your values?
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me sick to my stomach.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I have, like I poured so much over what
Speaker 3: I was going to name Moses, because when you're a
Speaker 3: writer comedian, like, you're gonna want to be very careful,
Speaker 3: and to be very careful, there's you could go too quirky,
Speaker 3: you could go to banal, you get caught up in
Speaker 3: a trend. You can get caught up in a trend.
Speaker 3: And for me, it was either I think it was
Speaker 3: gonna be Figaro, Yeah I love Figaro or fig Tait.
Speaker 3: But he was rescued in Palm Springs, So I say
Speaker 3: he was Moses because he was wandering in the desert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you found him in a basket.
Speaker 3: He's very biblical, very sweet.
Speaker 2: Well, let's play the game. Here, I'm gonna name three celebrities,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna name three gifts, and you're gonna tell
Speaker 2: me which gift you would give which celebrity, and what
Speaker 2: does that make perfect sense?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: The celebrities today are Number one Marissa Tomey okay, who
Speaker 2: I saw friends and Family a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: It was very exciting.
Speaker 3: She's beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Excellent actor too, and they've got her playing Spider Man's aunt.
Speaker 3: I don't get it, just like what fest Okay, the
Speaker 3: world we live in?
Speaker 2: Number two Cynthia Arrivo.
Speaker 3: Oh yes.
Speaker 2: Number three Scarlet Johansson. Okay, we've got an all ladies
Speaker 2: brunch today. The gifts you're giving away our number one
Speaker 2: a job at the mall. It's a nice job, and
Speaker 2: it could be kind of any job at the mall. True,
Speaker 2: they've got all kinds of jobs there. Number two sleepless
Speaker 2: Nights could be turned into a productive gift. And number
Speaker 2: three official merch.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, Well, I mean I feel like the
Speaker 3: natural inclination would be to give Scarlett Johanson official merch
Speaker 3: because she's like a superhero whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, she's part of the Marvel universe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Marissa Tomey is just under the
Speaker 3: radar enough. She's not under the radar, but just left
Speaker 3: of center enough and underappreciated enough that she needs merch.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 1: Like her.
Speaker 2: I can imagine there being bootleg Marissa merchres, which I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want. No, she was selling things with her name
Speaker 2: and face on it. Yeah, do you think it would
Speaker 2: be incredible cool or like, like, how do you think
Speaker 2: her the merch would be tastefully i'd be would I
Speaker 2: think I would want it to be slightly not tasteful enough?
Speaker 3: Yes, I like some mistakes for that's what I think.
Speaker 3: Like the font would be just a little too predictable,
Speaker 3: not comic sands, not curly cues or whatever, but something
Speaker 3: where you're just like, eh, copper played gothic. Come on,
Speaker 3: you know you can do it something a little, you know.
Speaker 2: With a free font pack or something exactly.
Speaker 3: You could have you could have splurged. But so I
Speaker 3: would give official merch to to Mursy tome perfect and
Speaker 3: then a drop of them all on sleepless nights. Honestly,
Speaker 3: like Cynthia or Evo is so she always is like
Speaker 3: so good at fashion, and I know nothing about fashion,
Speaker 3: but I know that she like she serves as as
Speaker 3: they say. Of course it sounds homophobic coming out of
Speaker 3: my mouth. She's serving, But she would thrive in any
Speaker 3: job at any store in the mall. I could see
Speaker 3: her at Talbots, for God's sake, she would.
Speaker 2: She'd just be approached by Cynthia.
Speaker 3: Talbots, what with the nose with the septum ring in
Speaker 3: Point me to the dressing room and I want something
Speaker 3: in a I want something floral in a missy, a duster,
Speaker 3: a floral length duster. And then I guess sleepless nights,
Speaker 3: I would say to Scarlet Johansson. Not because I wish
Speaker 3: ill on her. I don't wish sleepless nights and anybody.
Speaker 3: But I hate to admit it, but I think Colin
Speaker 3: Joe's is so handsome that I would be okay with,
Speaker 3: like just like looking for eight hours.
Speaker 2: Wow, he's a fascinating pick, Colin. Yes, I know, a
Speaker 2: free font packs. I feel like someone for.
Speaker 3: Her, you know, a demo of a man for her. Him,
Speaker 3: But you're saying it's a I mean.
Speaker 2: As a good looking person. I feel like he's the
Speaker 2: demo of a good looking man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know his teeth.
Speaker 2: He's got a great yeah, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: say anything. He's a very just kind of everything's right. Yes,
Speaker 2: everything right can work in certain situations, work against a person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could work against him too. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really get like why he's on TV. And
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't mean that because he's bad. He like,
Speaker 3: she's totally good at what he does.
Speaker 2: He's not actively bad or anything, no, no.
Speaker 3: But I'm just like he's just there. I don't know,
Speaker 3: he's just kind of like there again, I say it
Speaker 3: as in like he is totally good in service, completely completely,
Speaker 3: but he's I think he's so handsome. Guess that's why
Speaker 3: he's on TV. So handsy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like if you were to flipping through the channels,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, of course there's a newscaster.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, just just clean. He's so clean.
Speaker 2: He seems he takes nine showers a day up, yeah,
Speaker 2: cleaned up.
Speaker 3: Maybe a bath.
Speaker 2: I can't see Colin jos in a bathroom getting there,
Speaker 2: no bath for no level of oil. Now you know
Speaker 2: there's a very clean shower. Jel scent that's sharp, yeah,
Speaker 2: not even woodsy.
Speaker 3: You know, it's he's one of these guys who like
Speaker 3: he's from like Staten Island, and that's so analogous to
Speaker 3: he is so analogous to Staten Island that that is
Speaker 3: what fascinates me.
Speaker 2: And I guess I don't know Staten Island enough to
Speaker 2: associate those two together. Doesn't make sense in my mind.
Speaker 3: There is sort of like a I mean, I've encountered
Speaker 3: like a little bit of like waspy like intellectuals on
Speaker 3: Staten Island, but it's such such a small pocket interesting
Speaker 3: that you would never think it.
Speaker 2: No, because for to me, it feels working class and
Speaker 2: very very variable what you assume of New York.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is very removed even though it's there. It's
Speaker 3: like I'm from Long Island. It's the same, the same politics,
Speaker 3: the same like blue collar you know, intellect and anger
Speaker 3: at other people, like right, So it's so intense and
Speaker 3: it does not seem like Colin, you know, would come
Speaker 3: from that ilk.
Speaker 2: He's running from something something. Well that was excellently played.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks beautiful gifts.
Speaker 2: Scarlett's just kind of not even blinking. She's just lying
Speaker 2: in bed staring at.
Speaker 3: I'm like, and I'll do a body swap happily.
Speaker 2: That's a great freaky Friday.
Speaker 3: That's me and Scarlett Johansson.
Speaker 2: She's possessed by a man who can't sleep and is
Speaker 2: obsessed with her husband. Okay, well it's uh. This is
Speaker 2: the final segment of the podcast is called I Said
Speaker 2: No Emails. People write into I Said No Gifts at
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Every one of them has a nearly
Speaker 2: unsolvable problem complement their life, and they finally turning to
Speaker 2: the right source. Yes, we help me answer a question,
Speaker 2: of course, all right, this says hello, Bridger and guest.
Speaker 2: My apartment building has a habit of packages disappearing, and
Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, my neighbors started bringing up packages
Speaker 2: for me anytime they see them and setting them outside
Speaker 2: my door, likely rescuing them from thievery in the process.
Speaker 2: I try to return the favor as often as I can,
Speaker 2: but there is definitely an imbalance. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: moving out in a few months, and I'd like to
Speaker 2: thank them for their good deeds with a gift. There's
Speaker 2: a man, a woman, a child, and two cats in
Speaker 2: their apartment, but I know very little about them other
Speaker 2: than running into the woman once at Target as she
Speaker 2: was looking for Snickers ice cream bars. Please help me properly,
Speaker 2: thank them for being good neighbors. Thanks, And that's from Warren. Okay,
Speaker 2: what we know about Warren is that he has been
Speaker 2: getting the packages delivered him and assuming that no other
Speaker 2: that this neighbor's doing this for everyone else. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: also knows some alarming details about who's living in this apartment. Right,
Speaker 2: maybe he has too much of a role call. I
Speaker 2: would say maybe. And then he just happens to be
Speaker 2: at Target knowing exactly what this woman's buying.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. Tomato, Tomato, you think that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it's bordering on Warren, How
Speaker 2: did you find out about the Snickers?
Speaker 3: Because he probably spoke to her prying. Okay, Okay, there
Speaker 3: could be prying.
Speaker 2: And I mean he barely sees these people. How do
Speaker 2: you even recognize her?
Speaker 3: That's true, Well, you recognize your neighbors every now and then.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It feels like the neighbor's trying
Speaker 2: to keep away from him. They're dropping the gift and
Speaker 2: like avoiding except for oh god, I had to go
Speaker 2: buy Snickers and now I'm running into.
Speaker 3: War and the neighbor could knock on his door and
Speaker 3: deliver the right. But I don't know. I think this
Speaker 3: is like very polite and considerate of the neighbors. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: and Warren.
Speaker 2: And interesting, right, so you're on everyone else's side, but me,
Speaker 2: I mean there's an immediate no.
Speaker 3: I think. I think I'm on the neighbor's side. I
Speaker 3: do think, you know, if Warren could, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the inmbound. I don't really understand
Speaker 3: the imbalance. Okay. Are there times where he chooses not
Speaker 3: to bring their gift to them?
Speaker 2: Like maybe they're not ordering, they're not. That's the other
Speaker 2: thing we're learning here is Warren is deeply materialistic. He's
Speaker 2: ordering things NonStop, right, probably from a problematic retailer.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And these people, meanwhile, I live a very minimal life.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Their packages they get are probably homemade, yes, and probably
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying everything they can to keep their
Speaker 2: footprint as small as possible.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: He's blasting the ac in his apartment alone, definitely, windows
Speaker 2: probably open.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean that's just he's.
Speaker 2: Living this life that's out of control, right, and his
Speaker 2: neighbors are trying to Warren is on the verge. But
Speaker 2: I mean all of this, with all of this in mind,
Speaker 2: what to Sworren get these people?
Speaker 3: Well, my first instinct was to say, a lovely handwritten
Speaker 3: card and a Target gift card. Oh, but when you
Speaker 3: made it so like it was creepy, it changed my
Speaker 3: thoughts about the Target gift card because it's like, this
Speaker 3: is how I know you from Target. Now you're my
Speaker 3: target now exactly, and now that creeping out. With that
Speaker 3: being said, I always think like a gift card to
Speaker 3: a restaurant, and if they have a kid, a gift
Speaker 3: card to a nice kid friendly restaurant. Perhaps a chain
Speaker 3: is a good way to you can't can't hurt to
Speaker 3: get to let people go to outback for one hundred.
Speaker 2: Bucks, you know you can get all kinds of things
Speaker 2: that all kinds of stuffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get a brownie Sunday, get a bloomin onion, a
Speaker 3: bloomin onion. I think that's a nice gesture. Even if
Speaker 3: it was just like fifty dollars. I still think a
Speaker 3: card with a thank you for being so considerate, right
Speaker 3: is the is the real gift there.
Speaker 2: Now I will say about you have to be very
Speaker 2: careful with restaurant amounts on gift cards. If you give
Speaker 2: too little, you now put them in a trap where
Speaker 2: why if they want to go to that restaurant but
Speaker 2: they feel they need to correct and are going to
Speaker 2: be spending more.
Speaker 3: That's right, but it's a family of three.
Speaker 2: Family of three, so assume thirty three dollars for each
Speaker 2: person one hundred I think one hundred dollars. That's a
Speaker 2: nice night out at outpack and listen.
Speaker 3: If they are on the frugal side, they can go twice.
Speaker 2: They could go hundreds of times.
Speaker 3: They could go for five onions and are right, although
Speaker 3: that might then kill them from heart attacks, and then
Speaker 3: it would be Warren's fault.
Speaker 2: But at that point he might be looking for a
Speaker 2: vacant apartment.
Speaker 3: He's moving well, he might be a back. Warren's back.
Speaker 2: Warren's on the merge, warns and.
Speaker 3: Takes their apartment, knocks down the wall he's got.
Speaker 2: He expands, he rips the ceiling out, all in the plans,
Speaker 2: all along. Snickers ice cream bars are delicious.
Speaker 3: No, I'm honest, I'm not a fan of caramel or
Speaker 3: milk chocolate.
Speaker 2: This is a rough place for you to be.
Speaker 3: Love, dark chocolate.
Speaker 2: They should make a dark one, not a n ice cream.
Speaker 2: I don't think they make a dark Snickers.
Speaker 3: Oh I could do that. I just don't like caramel.
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge candy bar person.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then this is not the cream bar for you.
Speaker 3: I'm also like very annoying about ice cream. Oh, how
Speaker 3: so I'm over hard ice cream? I'm over it. I
Speaker 3: just want I just want soft.
Speaker 2: Where are you getting soft ice cream?
Speaker 3: Foster's Freeze?
Speaker 2: Okay? Sure?
Speaker 3: And then ultimately there's literally one place in El Segundo,
Speaker 3: and my friends will tell you I'm a absolute lunatic
Speaker 3: because I will travel quite a distance to get dessert,
Speaker 3: a good dessert. Sure, because it's important to me. Of course,
Speaker 3: there's a place called Dipped ice Cream, Oh el Segundo, Okay,
Speaker 3: where they have delicious soft serve that they dunk in shells.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm very familiar.
Speaker 3: I mean it is. You've been to this place?
Speaker 2: No, I'm familiar with the dip because mister softy dip.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: In you Tah, there's a restaurant chain called Arctic Circle.
Speaker 2: And what they call this product when they dip it
Speaker 2: in chocolate is a brown topper.
Speaker 3: Oh. Which that's not the right they do. Wow, that's
Speaker 3: a very innocent.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's just an interesting fact. I like to from
Speaker 2: outside of Utah.
Speaker 3: Sad whoa brown topper. That's a mistake that they could
Speaker 3: never have seen coming. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow tough.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've changed it, but it's an
Speaker 2: interesting Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, well, dipped ice cream is a huge brown topper.
Speaker 2: And wait, what's theme of the place in El Segundo
Speaker 2: dipped dipped ice cream, kipped cone or something? Have you
Speaker 2: been to heavy Handed? This is also a drive. It's
Speaker 2: in Studio City.
Speaker 3: Heavy Handed.
Speaker 2: Now, it's the best soft service cream I've ever Oh
Speaker 2: my god, tell me everything. They only have three flavors
Speaker 2: I believe, chocolate, vanilla, and actually maybe just swirl. But
Speaker 2: it's so well made. I've never had soft served like
Speaker 2: this before. I'm like this, the care put into this product,
Speaker 2: I mean, it so unnecessary. They'll do a dip, they
Speaker 2: do multiple dips.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is important to me.
Speaker 2: Heavy handed, Yeah, heavy handed, delicious, absolutely wonderful ice cream
Speaker 2: cut that's on my rate are now it feels like
Speaker 2: soft serve is kind of making a swing back.
Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know at what point I just lost interest in hard
Speaker 3: ice cream, but I just did. I just did, and
Speaker 3: I love because you know what it is, quite honestly,
Speaker 3: the ice cream is less about the ice cream and
Speaker 3: more about the dip, the brown topper, or I want, genuinely,
Speaker 3: I want an obscene amount of sprinkles, to the point
Speaker 3: that I can't even see the ice.
Speaker 2: Cream colored sprinkles or chocolate sprinkle colored. Oh I love
Speaker 2: a chocolate sprinkle over an ice cream soft serve.
Speaker 3: Give me both, but I want I don't want to
Speaker 3: see the ice cream. I don't want to see ice cream.
Speaker 3: I want to see sprinkles. And then I want extras
Speaker 3: to dip this, dip the ice cream into as you eat. Yes,
Speaker 3: I love the texture. The texture marriage there.
Speaker 2: You really don't find a texture like sprinkles anywhere else
Speaker 2: in nature.
Speaker 3: No, And you know, at these sort of bespoke places,
Speaker 3: even like Magpies, which is say, it's good, but they
Speaker 3: do that sort of like Whole Foods sprinkles that are
Speaker 3: not bright enough and they just kind of like dirizzaletle
Speaker 3: couple on and it's like no, no, no, this isn't
Speaker 3: a garnish. This is half the meal for me.
Speaker 2: This is a protective shell from the ice This.
Speaker 3: Is a protective shell. Give me the I don't want
Speaker 3: to see the ice cream, but they have those, like
Speaker 3: you know, lay mass sprinkles.
Speaker 2: Right justice the toppings bar. There leaves a lot to
Speaker 2: be desired.
Speaker 3: It's fun, It's like, oh, honeycomb, that's fun. But then
Speaker 3: it's like all right, all right, I get it. I'm
Speaker 3: going to Foster's Freeze, which we don't really have that
Speaker 3: like in New York. Like I feel like mister Softy
Speaker 3: out of the truck, which is perfection, but also like
Speaker 3: comes in exhaust like you comes in exhaust. There used
Speaker 3: to be tcby, which I was obsessed with it as
Speaker 3: a kid, But we don't really like New York, but
Speaker 3: especially like the northeastern region, even like New England. Hard
Speaker 3: ice cream is the stuff.
Speaker 2: That's all you get.
Speaker 3: That's all you get.
Speaker 2: It's excellent made, but.
Speaker 3: You hate it. I don't hate it. I'm just like
Speaker 3: don't like it. I could take it or leave it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I could take it or leave it. Yeah, could take
Speaker 3: it or leave it. Give me I need That's why
Speaker 3: I mean, we never had like dairy what's it called
Speaker 3: dairy Freeze, Dairy Freeze, dairy Queen. We had actually on
Speaker 3: Long Island, we had someone called dairy Barn, which is
Speaker 3: like a drive through.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I like it's so rustic sounding for the least rustic
Speaker 3: place on Earth. But they didn't have like ice cream
Speaker 3: or anything. It was just groceries that someone gave to you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so weird.
Speaker 2: I hope you could at least buy milk.
Speaker 3: You could. That's what kind of what it was for.
Speaker 2: That's what it started with. Unless you were John Tesh
Speaker 2: right by water and Flakes. Well, yeah, you support your
Speaker 2: soft serve journey.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of getting into it now. But I'm
Speaker 2: going to go to DiPT.
Speaker 3: Yes, It's it's worth the trip. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this, and I'm excited. I think
Speaker 2: you've kind of converted me to the View.
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2: This is the exact type of television I'm looking to.
Speaker 3: What if, like in a week, you're like watching the View,
Speaker 3: listening to Howard Stern wearing your clothes. My clothes, by
Speaker 3: the way, I wore my short shorts because Alan h
Speaker 3: Allen my friend was talking about short shorts on this podcast,
Speaker 3: right and decrying them because he likes to wear his
Speaker 3: long sort of Billie Eilish, you know angle length capri, Yeah, Capri,
Speaker 3: pant Janko short shorts, and I wear mine with pride.
Speaker 2: You've got to wear a short short.
Speaker 3: I wear them with pride.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got to get their legs out there.
Speaker 3: I love that guy's show legs now. Oh of course
Speaker 3: the in seems you're getting higher and higher straight guys too,
Speaker 3: and I love it.
Speaker 2: I think it's fight against the basketball short.
Speaker 3: Fight against it. Paul Meskill like lead the.
Speaker 2: Doing an incredible job.
Speaker 3: He's doing a service, short service, all men, all men, Yes,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Everybody put on your short shorts. Watch the view
Speaker 2: that's eat brown topper.
Speaker 3: I think nothing of it, like nothing is more to me,
Speaker 3: like when if I if you were to ask me
Speaker 3: about myself, to describe myself, like I never ever ever
Speaker 3: gave a shit about astrology, sign horoscopes, but the more
Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm in la. All of course, my
Speaker 3: friends people are always into horoscopes. So I understand the
Speaker 3: idea that as a Gemini I have I could have
Speaker 3: two personalities. Oh sure, whatever, it is like just you know,
Speaker 3: twin personalities. And I used to like kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of wave it away as nonsense, and
Speaker 3: then in recent years it's like God, I listened to
Speaker 3: I worship like Howard Stern and like the view like
Speaker 3: this is these are my things that I'm oh, I
Speaker 3: can't miss, and it's like they couldn't be you know, further.
Speaker 2: Apart, you're essentially two face.
Speaker 3: I'm two face, So I guess that's it. I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 3: I'm a double Gemini, owned the Gemini. I'm owning it.
Speaker 2: I support that. I'm a Libra and apparently it's the
Speaker 2: source of almost every one of my problems.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean at this point, I just it's you're
Speaker 3: in la. So what can you do except throw your
Speaker 3: hands up and go, okay, sure got me, you got me.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the book. I'm going to be
Speaker 2: diving into this, maybe reading, then watching and then watching
Speaker 2: and then reading.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very different from the book. The show is
Speaker 3: very different from the book that you're gonna that you're
Speaker 3: gonna read. In the Boo Book, Michelle, you're reading the book,
Speaker 3: but it's still delightful and chaotic, truly, truly late, it's chaotic.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. Well, thank you for being here, thank
Speaker 2: you for having me. I've had a delightful time. And listener,
Speaker 2: the podcast is over. We've heard so many helicopters today,
Speaker 2: and I hope you were keeping count at least seven.
Speaker 2: Well I was obviously wasn't keeping count. But the podcast
Speaker 2: is over. Get moving, do whatever you need to do.
Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an
Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson,
Speaker 2: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't
Speaker 2: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,
Speaker 2: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.
Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said
Speaker 2: no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's
Speaker 2: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures
Speaker 2: of the gifts.
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
Speaker 3: But you're a guess to my home.
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,
Speaker 1: you're own presences, presents enough that I already had too
Speaker 1: much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me?