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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're

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Speaker 2: in the backyard. It's absolutely beautiful. The birds are chirping.

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Speaker 2: what else is going on? I saw an hour of

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Speaker 2: Megalopolis last night. That was enough. And now here we

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Speaker 2: are ready to go. I'm so so excited about today's guest.

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Speaker 2: It's Elliott Glazer. Elliott hey Man, Welcome to. I said,

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Speaker 2: no gifts.

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Speaker 3: What is Megalopolis?

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Speaker 2: Oh my, are you not familiar with Megalopolis?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what this is.

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Speaker 2: This is Francis Ford Coppola's new movie that he sold

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Speaker 2: his entire wine business, I believe, to finance or his

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Speaker 2: half of the wine business, to finance a movie, to

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Speaker 3: Wait, he's he financed by selling his wine company. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to make him more money than this

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Speaker 2: I think he's been wanting to make it for decades. Right,

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Speaker 3: Who's in it?

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Speaker 2: Adam Driver, Aubrey Plaza, John Voight, Jason Schwartzman. When I

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Speaker 3: Is it so? It's a long one it's about.

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Speaker 2: It's not as long as you would think. It's two

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Speaker 3: And you were in it was USA in the theater, yes,

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Speaker 2: And you know I saw people walking out that were

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Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Driver can control time or you can

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Speaker 3: But now Zachary Levi or Shazam is like he's going

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Speaker 2: On these cruises, do you think each of them is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for any of these weird cruises. They're like I'm

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Speaker 2: Out or something's always been simmering.

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Speaker 3: What was Shazam before Shazam?

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Speaker 2: You never quite know where it stands. It might surprise

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Speaker 3: What do you feel? How do you feel about the news?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you call it? What it's called

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Speaker 2: I don't know this one, but I like that could

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Speaker 3: What's your order? In all four hours, and what do

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Speaker 2: I do connections first. Okay, connections. You really don't know

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Speaker 3: So you don't touch letterbox or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 3: There's legally is waiting to be This is an unfurled here.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing the effects immediately, of course. Yes, I'm getting

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult to keep track up. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 3: I can kind of. It just makes me feel so

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00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: stupid when I don't figure out the mini too quickly.

439
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 3: Oh okay, the big ones, I'm just like, I'm an idiot.

440
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I need like letters and colors.

441
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, the big one is a project. It's not a object.

442
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: It is a project. It's hours long, yes, and I

443
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: just don't. I mean, I absolutely have the time. Yeah,

444
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: and well maybe not the energy, right, but I'm not

445
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: getting into that.

446
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.

447
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: Well, there is something we should get into that's probably

448
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: a little bit more important and probably equally is confusing.

449
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: And the podcast is called I said no gifts. I

450
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 2: was naturally looking forward to having you here today. I thought, Ellie,

451
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: it'll come by. He'll bring the dog. I haven't even

452
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: mentioned to the listener yet that your dog most is

453
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: glorious dog. So that's a fun surprise for everybody's They

454
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: probably felt his presence.

455
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.

456
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: I was really excited to have you here, and so

457
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: I was a little bit Yeah, I don't even know

458
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: what the word is at this point. I had to

459
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 2: tamp down some feelings.

460
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

461
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: When I saw you walk into my backyard holding a

462
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: beautiful gift bag that I immediately assumed was for me,

463
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I try not to

464
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: assume too often. Sure, I thought, why would anyone give

465
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: on a Lisa gift? Okay, And so I thought, of course.

466
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: It's for me.

467
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have anything to say about this?

468
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: Or it is for you? Okay, do you want to

469
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: know what it is?

470
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me to open it? Here

471
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: on the podcast, you can open it. Okay, okay, we're

472
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: getting into the beautiful gift bag.

473
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: I will say.

474
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got these little tasteful penguins wearing party hats,

475
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: little party hats. I draw a lot of parts when

476
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm doodling. Anytime I doodle a character, there's like a

477
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: nine out of ten chance that I'm going to draw

478
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: a party hat on top.

479
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: Oh.

480
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: Really, it's a little secret to doodlers. Oh interesting, I

481
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: had a unique element to your day.

482
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.

483
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: It's an easy thing to draw.

484
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only draw faces.

485
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Well, the face can have a party had.

486
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to put a party had on a face.

487
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm opening.

488
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh in the ribbon's part of the bagh.

489
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: Okay, we're pulling this out.

490
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: Oh late.

491
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: It's the book Ladies Who Punch The explosive inside story

492
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: of the View. Yes, I will eat this up.

493
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 3: Yes, it's by Ramen Situta, and it is uh quite

494
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: a read.

495
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: Why did you bring this here today?

496
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: Because it's the it's a great book, and you deserve

497
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: a great book. You need a good read. I'm assuming.

498
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: Oh, I've actually been in the I've been in the

499
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: market for a non fiction easy to read, you know,

500
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: to page Turner.

501
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: An expose and exposed. I love this will do it,

502
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: This will do it. There's a lot of Rosy, which

503
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: is Rosie. Then I think subsequently said that she was

504
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: the biggest mistake of her like like the biggest book.

505
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Whoopy said nothing because she's not involved. Oh yeah, because

506
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: they watched the show every day, every single day.

507
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: They put on the cover and Whoop is on the cover.

508
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what could you do? I mean, whoop be,

509
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: Barbara Walters and Rosie are on the cover and who else?

510
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: I mean did they talk to I mean they've talked

511
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: to Liz Hasselback.

512
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: They talked to Liz Hasselback. There's Debbie, Matt Napolis. I think, oh,

513
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: definitely is this I mean Star Jones.

514
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 2: Of course, does Barbara Walters?

515
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: I God, I don't remember.

516
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, if they didn't get Barb I forgot what was

517
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: I think it might have been written after she passed. Okay,

518
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: I think let's say I'm saying quotes from her.

519
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if not, then she definitely had some

520
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: you know, had to be part of it right, you

521
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: got it. You know you can't not talk to Barbara.

522
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: But Whoopee certainly Whoodby. I'm a huge you know, view

523
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: fan and like one of the most I think it's

524
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: it's baffling parts of the show is how Whoopee is

525
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: there but seems to hate the job okay, and when

526
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: she's asked about it sort of off the air, like

527
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: in press or whatever, or in interviews, she literally is like,

528
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: it's just my job. I show up and I do

529
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: my job. But she really seems to not just do

530
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: the job but have like but resent the.

531
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: Show, public contempt for this.

532
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: She's so interesting to me, it's so weird.

533
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: Helicopter has been there for a while. I think that

534
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: the criminal is in the backyard and she's probably been there.

535
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: She's been there for very so long. She's been there

536
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: for so long. I think twenty years.

537
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: Is after Barbara Walters. Is she the longest?

538
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: Oh?

539
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: I would what? I is that right? Maybe joy might

540
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: be heavy since I think she was fired briefly, but

541
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 3: but yeah, who no, No, I think Joey's probably been

542
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: there a little bit longer.

543
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: Do we know the shortest tenure, the.

544
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: Shortest tenure, I would guess would be Abby. Uh, I

545
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: forget her last name, Bobby. She's the daughter of a politician,

546
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: Abby Huntsman.

547
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Abbie Huntsman. Now, is she the daughter of John Huntsman? Yes,

548
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: the Utah politicians.

549
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

550
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: How was that?

551
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: That's right?

552
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: I grew up in Salike and that family's name is

553
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 2: all over everything.

554
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: She's a Huntsman.

555
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: They donated to all kinds of things, I'm sure, and

556
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: they're Mormon, but I think they were kind. I mean,

557
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: I think, by nature of being ultra wealthy and kind

558
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: of of the world, was probably a little more moderate

559
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: or something maybe.

560
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's very she was very like TV friendly,

561
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: but kind of kind of cold. And they tried to

562
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: make her sort of like the softer antidote to Megan McCain. Okay,

563
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: and it just didn't. She just wasn't particularly interesting, I

564
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: would say, right, you know, she tried to be I

565
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: think a little more moderate, but right, it wasn't really interesting.

566
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: And the view there's not that m for my behavior.

567
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, although they're Republican now is fantastic.

568
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: What's this person's name?

569
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: Her name is Alissa Alyssa. Oh, Okay, she's great, she's

570
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: like she's a Republican, but she's like very intelligent. She

571
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: worked for Trump, which is wild. She worked in that

572
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: White House and speaks so poorly of it, okay, but

573
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: not in a way where you feel like she's like thirsty.

574
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: Interesting.

575
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: She left because of you know, January sixth, right, which

576
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: is in my opinion, a little too late, But okay,

577
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, of course, there's always that underlying

578
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: question of like why were you there? How could you

579
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: be there in the first place if you have like

580
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 3: functioning brain cells, you know, or like as long as

581
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: you were, But she does seem like a very decent person, okay.

582
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just I like her vibe.

583
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: She's got some skeletons in her closet.

584
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Maybe, but she's also just like she she has the

585
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: sort of Republican answer to everything in a sort of

586
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: in a in a benefit of the benefit of the

587
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: doubt in her way or not even not even Devil's advocate. Like.

588
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: She tries to be pretty fair minded, and I appreciate it.

589
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Tries to make you understand how someone could believe these

590
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: I think, so, yes, which I well, I assume is valueable.

591
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but it's also like the reason

592
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: that I'm obsessed with the show, and I've only been

593
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: watched it obsessively since our do you know Michelle Collins?

594
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: Oh course, I love Michelle, Love Michelle, and she when

595
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: she went back on When she went on the show

596
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: is when I started watching.

597
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: Oh this so it's a pretty recent thing. It's not

598
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: like you started watching in middle school.

599
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no, that's pretty recent. But when

600
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: I started watching with Michelle, I was baffled by a

601
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: that her joke, her incredible lightning fast humor was like

602
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: lost on the audience.

603
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: Tough place to be.

604
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: But that's where I got so baffled because it was like,

605
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: how is that happening in New York? Like I just

606
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: didn't get it. And subsequently I realized that the show

607
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: with and without Michelle is like a it's like always always,

608
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: always on the verge of utter chaos, always always in

609
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: the verge of utter chaos, if not fully there.

610
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: That they've been able to keep it on for this

611
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: long I know, And it's interesting.

612
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: It has a really interesting take on politics because they

613
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: they all have different interests, but they're good at like

614
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: digesting politics in a way or dissecting politics in a

615
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: way that is broad. But yet again it's always in

616
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: the verge of chaos because the audience seems completely like

617
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: not there. They're like baffled or clueless. It's so weird,

618
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: that's my question. And the leader of the you know,

619
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: the sort of MC whoopee who is like insistent upon

620
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: being the moderator and like, you know, really hurting the crew,

621
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I guess you would say, is again, like you said,

622
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: contemptuous for being there and her often her job there

623
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: is breaks the fourth wall.

624
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Oh, she's speaking to the viewer at home.

625
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: It's not that, it's that she talks about what's going

626
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: on on the production. Oh, while the show is on.

627
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: Who so she like gets mad at the producer for

628
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: telling her to rap. She talks to the control room

629
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: without explaining that she's talking to the control room. She's

630
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: like mad at the teleprompter. It is baffling. It is

631
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: truly like and what's I mean. That's what's so interesting

632
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: is that it's a successful morning show in a world

633
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: where every other like the formula of a morning show

634
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: is that sort of like squeaky, squeaky clean, right, you know,

635
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: shiny happy exactly like a very like contained vibe and

636
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: this show is on the verge of chaos at all

637
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: times times. I don't know, you should watch it.

638
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Have you seen any big fights?

639
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: It's not even that, that's the thing. It's not even

640
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: the like Megan and Megan would have fights with Joy

641
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: or Megan would have fights with Whoopee. And during COVID

642
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: there's Zoo. The show on Zoom was off the like

643
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: just off the rails, truly off the rails. But back

644
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: in the studio there's not really fights per se. But

645
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: that's what's interesting. When it gets heated, it feels very

646
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: real and awkward, which is like, again, very different from

647
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: any political round table show anything, Right, So that's what

648
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: that it's it sort of has that electric electricity to it.

649
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: And then I genuinely like lose interest when they veer

650
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: into like guests or pop culture. It's like the more

651
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: they talk about politics or themselves, the more interested I am.

652
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: What time does it air.

653
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: The LA It's eleven, Okay, I mean I watch you

654
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: at night? Oh interesting, yeah, yeah, I watch your hour. Yeah,

655
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: certainly after hours. It's actually your former your former guest

656
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: HLN Scott, my dear friend. I'll send him like you know,

657
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: like ten or eleven at night. I'll be like, what

658
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: is what be you talking about? Because he watches too,

659
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is she Because she'll say things.

660
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: She will literally say things in gobblygook word cell that

661
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: refer to things that you don't I don't even know

662
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: what she's talking about, you know, like she's trying to

663
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: make a point but referencing things that we aren't aware

664
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: that she's referencing zero context, zero context, and so it's

665
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: and it gets very like ambiguous. So it's just so confusing.

666
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: When she's like, I have to make a point. She

667
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: gets mad too because she needs she's a moderator, so

668
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: she gives the question or the topic exactly, and she

669
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: gets really mad when they don't get back to her

670
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: in time, which is when she gets indignant with the

671
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: producers in the control room at the camera. So weird.

672
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's like, but you're on a live

673
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: TV show and you've been doing this for so long.

674
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm figure it out?

675
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Have you?

676
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: How have you not figured it out yet? It's so

677
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: and again I only say that knowing that that is

678
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: just her on she was on broad City, right, she

679
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: did a walk on on Broad City and I went

680
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: there on I wasn't on or writing or anything that day,

681
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: but I had to go meet her and she was

682
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: so like. Meeting her was like, oh, this is why

683
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 3: she's It's not just that she's, you know, a great actress.

684
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: It was like she exudes the kind of charm and

685
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: warmth that like you don't you don't find every day,

686
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: and I didn't I had. I mean, I met her

687
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: so briefly and then I was in here and makeup

688
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: and just saying goodbye to my sister and Abby and

689
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: just you know, leaving and I was like nice and

690
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: Whoopy was there and I was like nice to me,

691
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: and she's like because I gave a Lon and Abby

692
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: hugs as I do, right, And She's like, I don't

693
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: get a hug.

694
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, for a celebrity

695
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: to ask for the hug for whoopee wow.

696
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh whoopy yes wow. No I get a hug. Like

697
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: if we're hugging, I get the hug.

698
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: Of course.

699
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: I get to embrace you like she is. She is,

700
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 3: that is her where you're just like, oh you are

701
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: her charm and warmth and likability as a person is

702
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: so contagious.

703
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: That.

704
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: I think that's probably that can't have not you know,

705
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: attributed to her success.

706
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: You know.

707
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, that's what's so interesting is like watching

708
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: her on the view, you can see her connect with

709
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: people in that way, but then at the same time

710
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: she seems like she you know, like hell, hath no

711
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: fury or whatever when it comes to her being wrapped.

712
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to go to a break and

713
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: she's like, no, no, I'm going to say this. She

714
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: gets mad when they play the music over her. It's like,

715
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: it's so funny. It's like every day is day one.

716
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.

717
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: Do you have any good things to share from this book,

718
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: any nice little gems about the don't?

719
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, it's just about it is about like

720
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hasselback and Barbara Sparring. Oh, that's the most interesting

721
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: part of it.

722
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm, of course on Elizabeth's side in every situation.

723
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: Well, I think you'll be even more so on her

724
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: side when you read What Happened Back?

725
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: Wait, is that actually true? Oh yeah, Oh, I mean

726
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm not on her side in any situation.

727
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean me either, But like when you read the

728
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: book and you see the way that she was sort

729
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: of I don't know the way that I hate to

730
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: say I'm manipulated, but Okay, despite having zero in common

731
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: with her as a person or her politics, I can

732
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: understand why she would be so upset, right and feel

733
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: so maligned when you read the context about what was

734
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: going on, because Barbara was a shark, and like as

735
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: much as she seemed like a you know, she was

736
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: like the real gold standard of journalism, she's also a

737
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: shark and like the producer in her is so real.

738
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: And that's what you'll get from the book.

739
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.

740
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: So interesting.

741
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very excited.

742
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.

743
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean, as far as Rosie goes, I feel like

744
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Rosie history is finally correcting itself about Rosio dom you think, so,

745
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: I feel like she's coming back out on top.

746
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: How so.

747
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: I feel like there were some years in the wilderness

748
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: where people were like, you know, she's difficult, blah blah blah,

749
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: and now I feel like the public is like, no,

750
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: Rosie's right almost all the time. She says what she wants. Yes,

751
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: and we also loved her in the nineties. I think

752
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: that's correct, and it's nice to see kind of a correction.

753
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I think it's like her wisdom

754
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: and her sort of like relatability has returned right on TikTok.

755
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't use TikTok, but she I see

756
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: stuff she reposts on Instagram. Right, it's very boomer sure,

757
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: not sure how to use technology. But I love her.

758
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: I love her poetry. I loved her blog when she

759
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: had a Paiku blog.

760
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know she had a blog.

761
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: She had a Rosie had a Haiku blog. Love that.

762
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: I love her. She grew up a town, a town

763
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: next to me. I'm the Island, So I just it's

764
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: my experience with her as a kid, and watching the

765
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: show pretty religiously was interesting because it felt so close,

766
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: right because of her accent, because it was in New York,

767
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: because this yeah, and it was like, I'm I was

768
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: like a closeted kid who was like into theater, and

769
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: they she had theater on the show. It was just

770
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: all very coated, you know, she wasn't out. But and

771
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: of course I'm like a gay kid, and I'm like, yeah,

772
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: she loves Tom Cruise, you know, loves Tom Cruise.

773
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: She loves that guy.

774
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: He's so hot, he's so sexual and hot. He's so sexual,

775
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: exudes sexual. It's like what you know. But I think

776
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: time has has worked on her side. Where you're right,

777
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: there was like a valley and now she's like returning

778
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: to a peece of some kind.

779
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Right, I'm very happy for her.

780
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: She could be. She could honestly do anything she wants.

781
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: She really could. And she honestly is a great actor,

782
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: great actor, excellent actor.

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: She does Howard Stern's show occasionally because they were Howard

784
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: was relentless to her in the nineties, very mean. Oh

785
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know this, yeah, and they and so she

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: was scared of him m because he was a scary man, right,

787
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: And then I became a huge Howard fan once he

788
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: started doing like psychotherapy and became very, very, very evolved.

789
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: And people don't know that because right, because this reputation proceeds. Yes, absolutely,

790
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: but he's so evolved. He's so a huge advocate for

791
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: queer LGBT, like he's on the right side of things.

792
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: You never know if you didn't listen. But he has

793
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: rose on because they're now friends. She is such an

794
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: interesting guest because she's so smart.

795
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh, she's incredibly intelligent, incredibly intelligent and yeah.

796
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: I guess so is he so smart?

797
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: I mean, whenever he would be on Letterman or at

798
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: least like later years, I'd always be like, oh, these

799
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: are such fast interviews.

800
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: Oh. I mean he's he's a brilliant guy, you know,

801
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: and he can play you know, he can play it

802
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: off as being like, well, I'm into like toilet humor

803
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: and stuff. But he's also an incredible interviewer and the

804
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: show is has levels that levels of depth that I

805
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: can't even describe in words that you can. He can

806
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: do toilet humor, really raunchy toilet sex humor, and then

807
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: in the next breath be interviewing Bruce Springsteen and it's

808
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: like a transcendent interview.

809
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: How long does that show go on each day? Is

810
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 2: three hours?

811
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: He does three days a week and it's usually four hours.

812
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Do you listen to the whole thing?

813
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: I have to break it up.

814
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: That's a lot of.

815
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: If I'm like a in a writer's room, like I

816
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: really get behind right of course. But if I'm not

817
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like doing my own thing, you know, I

818
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: can I listen. I mean I also listen to like

819
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: repeats and old episodes constantly. I've done the wrap up

820
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: show for stern a Bunch and I just I'm so

821
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: into it. Wow.

822
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he used to be five days a week?

823
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: Is that true?

824
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: God, I don't know.

825
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: Is there a period where people or listening to twenty

826
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: hours of him a week?

827
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 3: I think probably when he was on terrestrial radio okay,

828
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: when he went to Sirius in the like mid two thousands.

829
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: He I think that's when he switched to three days

830
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: a week. Oh okay, because he could could do whatever

831
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 3: he wants.

832
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, of course he can. I mean, he's why

833
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: do anything exactly, So do whatever you wants.

834
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: Of course.

835
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: Do you have any interest in being in the live

836
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: audience of the view.

837
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: Not particularly. I don't know, I really don't. It's really like, honestly,

838
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: it's like it's better observed from behind the TV screen.

839
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: That being said, Just to sort of dovetail this conversation together,

840
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: there is an amazing clip of that somebody took in

841
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: the audience at the view when Rosie was on, and

842
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: she's she can't help but engage with the audience, like

843
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: standing and talking to them, and she starts talking about

844
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: her nine to eleven conspiracy theories. It's like in a

845
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: commercial break people are like making her up, you know,

846
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, faya can't melt steal that

847
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: just can't happen or whatever, you know, metal, whatever the

848
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: conspiracy is. Yeah, she's like, she's she's in deep her

849
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: and of all people in the world. Character actress Christine Ebersol,

850
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: I know that name. She's let me look, she's an actress.

851
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe her. She's like

852
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: a you'd know her face. Yeah, I'm pretty sure her actress.

853
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: She's on I think she was on SM only eighties briefly.

854
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Of course, she's a huge imagine her. I mean I

855
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: can this is one thing I'll say. I can see

856
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: her rapidly clicking a mouse at a computer. Yes, exactly,

857
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: and that makes sense.

858
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: Of course. What kind of computer though, you think a

859
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: laptop or.

860
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: This is a I mean it's not even a flat

861
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: screen coming out exactly.

862
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: It's a massive it's a massive desktop computer.

863
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: And she was looking like this.

864
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: I love it. She doesn't know she's like on FaceTime.

865
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I love it. Boomer boomers and computers are

866
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing in the world.

867
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: Fascinating combination of worlds.

868
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed my mom, My mom. I'm like, I'm like,

869
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: she got the iPhone sixteen and I'm like, what are

870
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? She has literally ruined

871
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: relationships by texting diatribes that are misspelled and like unwanted.

872
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: She has ruined relationships. And I've said, I'm like, if

873
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: I had one wish, it would be that her iPhone

874
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: every time she touched it turned into a Nokia a

875
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: flip phone. That it was basic, basic, basic, basic, you know, qualities,

876
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: just calls, maybe some T nine but that's it, right, right.

877
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: Was there ever a period when she was signing her

878
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: texts Mom.

879
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was there. You mean yes? My dad

880
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: does that still, which we've said, like, Dad, you don't

881
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: need to do this, and he's like, I know, he

882
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: knows better. I think it's so cute. But he also

883
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: hasn't he doesn't have the same relationship with technology that

884
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: my mom does. For my mom's is like I can

885
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: see her anxiety spilt, you know, spern not spurn spiral

886
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 3: out right, the way she has many so many apps open,

887
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: She's on so many websites. She has a ton that

888
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: are on her home screen on her phone. Even though

889
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: they're just links to Facebook.

890
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: She opens a new one every time she wants to

891
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: get into.

892
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: Facebook correct and puts on her home screen instead of

893
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: like bookmarking, it's it's it's wild and like, I don't

894
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: Facebook scares the Jesus out of me. It's so scary.

895
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: But I will go on every now and then to

896
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: just make sure that she hasn't posted anything. You know,

897
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: it's all like you know, it's all far left, sure,

898
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: the liberal boomer stuff, but sometimes you just want to.

899
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: Be like, no, not this, not this, this one's wrong,

900
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: not this untrue.

901
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: I think also because of Facebook, she says to us,

902
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: now love you to the moon and back, and my

903
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: sister and I are like, you never said this? Come back?

904
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: Like where did you? She's not she's not a home

905
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: goods you know.

906
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: She saw that on a pillow on Facebook's.

907
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: But that's what I mean. It's like, she's not a

908
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: she doesn't have anything in the house, has like kissed

909
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: the cook or like always kiss me good night. But

910
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: because of Facebook, I think she's seen enough that she's like,

911
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: love you to the moon and back.

912
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: We've got to find out where that came from.

913
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: I I well, I also don't want to know. Part

914
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: of me wants to know, but part of me is like,

915
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: just let that be a mystery.

916
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Wow, somebody's got to write a book on the beginning

917
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: of love you to the moon and back, because whoever

918
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: that is is a fascinating place.

919
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I still remember a friend of mine

920
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: when we were younger, her parents, her mom had all

921
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: those platitudes or like on like drift fake drift food

922
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: or whatever, and she hung a sign over the toilet

923
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: that said always kiss me good night, and we were like, here, here.

924
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: That's the only place that right, here's the toilet, the toilet,

925
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: get in bed.

926
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Awful. I those spook me out.

927
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: They're very odd, very odd, meaningless.

928
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: But that's what's so spooky at them is that people

929
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: adopt them as like meaning and they're meaningless. Yes, they're meaningless.

930
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh what is it?

931
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: Oh?

932
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: My favorite one that I saw was like in Nana's house,

933
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: you can.

934
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: We've got to set some boundaries.

935
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: For disaster.

936
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like those are kind of belong

937
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: to boomers, and I think for millennials it's the pink

938
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: neon sign, which is just.

939
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: Like the podcast background now right, wild drugs or whateverage, Right, savager,

940
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: get it, get it, yeah, girl boss so odd.

941
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out if gen Z if there

942
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: are any signs of their future humiliation, and.

943
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: They're like, it's your fault. You're wrong, you're right, you

944
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: are wrong about this, and this is why, this is

945
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: why you're canceled. It's so weird. Yeah, that that that

946
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: you're right, that neon pink sign is petrifying. It's absolutely really,

947
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: you're right. It's like the millennial version of like boomer

948
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: rustic driftwood, inspirational driftwood.

949
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: You want to feel like you're at the ace, you know,

950
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: when you're like eighty years old.

951
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: It's why my first like writing drop that was hard

952
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: comedy was on New Girl. Oh sure, and in my

953
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: office as like a bit, I bought so many of

954
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: those pieces of shitty driftwood and hung them. It was

955
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: I guess you could say it's like art. I hung,

956
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: like no joke, like twenty five of them because I

957
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: think it's so funny that the chaos of all these

958
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: empty platitudes coming together, where it's like they're already meaningless

959
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: on their own, but seeing you know, live, laugh, love,

960
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: you know, dance like no one's watching. Always kiss me

961
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: good night. Seeing that all in one place is like exhausting.

962
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: I imagine they start to fight each other. They do.

963
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: They're like, how can I piece of life together? You

964
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: don't know what?

965
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: How to find a personality from all of this. It's

966
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: too much.

967
00:45:54,680 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: It's whiplash, a fractured person. Yes, wow, credible, Well I

968
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: think we should. It's time to play a game. Okay

969
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: today I think it's a gift Master on releas. Oh,

970
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm good. I need a number between one and ten from.

971
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: You, Okay, so I can say it. Yes, Okay, I'll

972
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: say six.

973
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay. I need to do some like calculating with your

974
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: number right now to get our game pieces. Okay, so

975
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone.

976
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: I'll be right. Okay, I'm here. The shows that I

977
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: would would be promoting will have happened prior to this airing.

978
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: They will have been in Cleveland, Indianapolis, and Chicago. But

979
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: if you go to my website or my Instagram or

980
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: my link tree, you'll find dates for future shows once

981
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: those are made available. Also here in the backyard today

982
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: is Moses, my dog, who is a perfect boy, the

983
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: perfect boy, and You're also welcome to go to my

984
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: Instagram to see pictures of him and now Bridges back

985
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: on the mic.

986
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Beautiful Moses was not booked on the podcast, so for

987
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: the promotion here, it's kind of gross.

988
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: He's the best.

989
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: No, we'll have to take a picture with him. Are

990
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: going to be furious.

991
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: I know he's he's honestly, he is. I'm obsessed with him.

992
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 3: It's not good.

993
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: He's beautiful. What kind of dog is he?

994
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Well, he's a rescue, so I don't know for sure.

995
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: But every animal that every breed that I've looked at

996
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: called low chen. Oh and I've never heard of low chen.

997
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: That is him. Okay, he is a low Chen to

998
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: the max to the max lo Chin to the max

999
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: and uh, not to brag, but he is a volunteer

1000
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: at the Children's hospital. Now my heart, he is perfection.

1001
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet.

1002
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: He's a perfect boy.

1003
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: I always feel a twinge of guilt when I ask

1004
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: somebody what kind of dog their dog is, because I

1005
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: obviously am rescue only. Oh I mean, but I always

1006
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: feel like, do they think that I'm I run a

1007
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: puppy meal? Like there's a brief second where I'm like, oh,

1008
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna assume that I'm like some sort.

1009
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: Of no not although do I have time to tell

1010
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: you a little a little anecdote. Of course. I ran

1011
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: into a guy who I went out with a couple

1012
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: of times. It was two was too many, one was

1013
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: too many, and he was like, and I was at

1014
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: how his dog was. His dog was named Prada, which

1015
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 3: I should have you know, I should have known, biggest possible,

1016
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: should have known. And he said, well, Prada died because vets.

1017
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: Prada was a French bulldog. Prada died because vets see

1018
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: French bulldogs and they see cash. And he said a

1019
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 3: vet killed the dog and now he's suing the vet.

1020
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: What And I felt immense remorse for that. I don't

1021
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: know what to say. And then before I could even

1022
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: really offer condolences, he said, but my next dog is

1023
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: going to be a furry frenchie. And I was like,

1024
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: what's a furry frenchie. He's like, they're French bulldogs, but

1025
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: they're furry, and he said it's either that or a

1026
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: new car. And I had to restrain, I mean genuinely,

1027
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: like I had to restrain all my inner like like

1028
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: pan sexual. I'm not pan sexual, but like my pan

1029
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: sexual vibeness, you know, the sort of pan rescue only,

1030
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: adoption only, uh crunchy vibes and just just bite my

1031
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: tongue and nod without like choking him. Oh what are

1032
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? Those dogs can't breathe.

1033
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: Man, he's going to get a furry French you name

1034
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: it g wagon. Oh, just be prepared world.

1035
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Prada?

1036
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: Awful?

1037
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: Those are your values?

1038
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me sick to my stomach.

1039
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I have, like I poured so much over what

1040
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: I was going to name Moses, because when you're a

1041
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: writer comedian, like, you're gonna want to be very careful,

1042
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: and to be very careful, there's you could go too quirky,

1043
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: you could go to banal, you get caught up in

1044
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: a trend. You can get caught up in a trend.

1045
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: And for me, it was either I think it was

1046
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: gonna be Figaro, Yeah I love Figaro or fig Tait.

1047
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: But he was rescued in Palm Springs, So I say

1048
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 3: he was Moses because he was wandering in the desert.

1049
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you found him in a basket.

1050
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: He's very biblical, very sweet.

1051
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: Well, let's play the game. Here, I'm gonna name three celebrities,

1052
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna name three gifts, and you're gonna tell

1053
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: me which gift you would give which celebrity, and what

1054
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: does that make perfect sense?

1055
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

1056
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: The celebrities today are Number one Marissa Tomey okay, who

1057
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: I saw friends and Family a couple of years ago.

1058
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: It was very exciting.

1059
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: She's beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous.

1060
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: Excellent actor too, and they've got her playing Spider Man's aunt.

1061
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't get it, just like what fest Okay, the

1062
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: world we live in?

1063
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: Number two Cynthia Arrivo.

1064
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh yes.

1065
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: Number three Scarlet Johansson. Okay, we've got an all ladies

1066
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: brunch today. The gifts you're giving away our number one

1067
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: a job at the mall. It's a nice job, and

1068
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: it could be kind of any job at the mall. True,

1069
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: they've got all kinds of jobs there. Number two sleepless

1070
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: Nights could be turned into a productive gift. And number

1071
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: three official merch.

1072
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, Well, I mean I feel like the

1073
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: natural inclination would be to give Scarlett Johanson official merch

1074
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: because she's like a superhero whatever.

1075
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, she's part of the Marvel universe.

1076
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Marissa Tomey is just under the

1077
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 3: radar enough. She's not under the radar, but just left

1078
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: of center enough and underappreciated enough that she needs merch.

1079
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 3: I would.

1080
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Like her.

1081
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: I can imagine there being bootleg Marissa merchres, which I

1082
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't want. No, she was selling things with her name

1083
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 2: and face on it. Yeah, do you think it would

1084
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: be incredible cool or like, like, how do you think

1085
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: her the merch would be tastefully i'd be would I

1086
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: think I would want it to be slightly not tasteful enough?

1087
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I like some mistakes for that's what I think.

1088
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: Like the font would be just a little too predictable,

1089
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: not comic sands, not curly cues or whatever, but something

1090
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: where you're just like, eh, copper played gothic. Come on,

1091
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: you know you can do it something a little, you know.

1092
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: With a free font pack or something exactly.

1093
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: You could have you could have splurged. But so I

1094
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: would give official merch to to Mursy tome perfect and

1095
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: then a drop of them all on sleepless nights. Honestly,

1096
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: like Cynthia or Evo is so she always is like

1097
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: so good at fashion, and I know nothing about fashion,

1098
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: but I know that she like she serves as as

1099
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: they say. Of course it sounds homophobic coming out of

1100
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: my mouth. She's serving, But she would thrive in any

1101
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: job at any store in the mall. I could see

1102
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 3: her at Talbots, for God's sake, she would.

1103
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: She'd just be approached by Cynthia.

1104
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 3: Talbots, what with the nose with the septum ring in

1105
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: Point me to the dressing room and I want something

1106
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: in a I want something floral in a missy, a duster,

1107
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: a floral length duster. And then I guess sleepless nights,

1108
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: I would say to Scarlet Johansson. Not because I wish

1109
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: ill on her. I don't wish sleepless nights and anybody.

1110
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: But I hate to admit it, but I think Colin

1111
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Joe's is so handsome that I would be okay with,

1112
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: like just like looking for eight hours.

1113
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: Wow, he's a fascinating pick, Colin. Yes, I know, a

1114
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: free font packs. I feel like someone for.

1115
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: Her, you know, a demo of a man for her. Him,

1116
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: But you're saying it's a I mean.

1117
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: As a good looking person. I feel like he's the

1118
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: demo of a good looking man.

1119
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know his teeth.

1120
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: He's got a great yeah, and I don't want to

1121
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: say anything. He's a very just kind of everything's right. Yes,

1122
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: everything right can work in certain situations, work against a person.

1123
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could work against him too. I don't.

1124
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't really get like why he's on TV. And

1125
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't mean that because he's bad. He like,

1126
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: she's totally good at what he does.

1127
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: He's not actively bad or anything, no, no.

1128
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: But I'm just like he's just there. I don't know,

1129
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: he's just kind of like there again, I say it

1130
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: as in like he is totally good in service, completely completely,

1131
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: but he's I think he's so handsome. Guess that's why

1132
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: he's on TV. So handsy.

1133
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like if you were to flipping through the channels,

1134
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: you'd be like, of course there's a newscaster.

1135
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: Yes, right, just just clean. He's so clean.

1136
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: He seems he takes nine showers a day up, yeah,

1137
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: cleaned up.

1138
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: Maybe a bath.

1139
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: I can't see Colin jos in a bathroom getting there,

1140
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: no bath for no level of oil. Now you know

1141
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: there's a very clean shower. Jel scent that's sharp, yeah,

1142
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: not even woodsy.

1143
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's he's one of these guys who like

1144
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: he's from like Staten Island, and that's so analogous to

1145
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: he is so analogous to Staten Island that that is

1146
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: what fascinates me.

1147
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: And I guess I don't know Staten Island enough to

1148
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: associate those two together. Doesn't make sense in my mind.

1149
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: There is sort of like a I mean, I've encountered

1150
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: like a little bit of like waspy like intellectuals on

1151
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: Staten Island, but it's such such a small pocket interesting

1152
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: that you would never think it.

1153
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: No, because for to me, it feels working class and

1154
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: very very variable what you assume of New York.

1155
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it is very removed even though it's there. It's

1156
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: like I'm from Long Island. It's the same, the same politics,

1157
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 3: the same like blue collar you know, intellect and anger

1158
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: at other people, like right, So it's so intense and

1159
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: it does not seem like Colin, you know, would come

1160
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: from that ilk.

1161
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 2: He's running from something something. Well that was excellently played.

1162
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks beautiful gifts.

1163
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: Scarlett's just kind of not even blinking. She's just lying

1164
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: in bed staring at.

1165
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, and I'll do a body swap happily.

1166
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: That's a great freaky Friday.

1167
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: That's me and Scarlett Johansson.

1168
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: She's possessed by a man who can't sleep and is

1169
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: obsessed with her husband. Okay, well it's uh. This is

1170
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: the final segment of the podcast is called I Said

1171
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: No Emails. People write into I Said No Gifts at

1172
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Every one of them has a nearly

1173
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: unsolvable problem complement their life, and they finally turning to

1174
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: the right source. Yes, we help me answer a question,

1175
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: of course, all right, this says hello, Bridger and guest.

1176
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: My apartment building has a habit of packages disappearing, and

1177
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, my neighbors started bringing up packages

1178
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: for me anytime they see them and setting them outside

1179
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: my door, likely rescuing them from thievery in the process.

1180
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: I try to return the favor as often as I can,

1181
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: but there is definitely an imbalance. I'm going to be

1182
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: moving out in a few months, and I'd like to

1183
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: thank them for their good deeds with a gift. There's

1184
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: a man, a woman, a child, and two cats in

1185
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: their apartment, but I know very little about them other

1186
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: than running into the woman once at Target as she

1187
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: was looking for Snickers ice cream bars. Please help me properly,

1188
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: thank them for being good neighbors. Thanks, And that's from Warren. Okay,

1189
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: what we know about Warren is that he has been

1190
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: getting the packages delivered him and assuming that no other

1191
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: that this neighbor's doing this for everyone else. Yeah, he

1192
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: also knows some alarming details about who's living in this apartment. Right,

1193
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: maybe he has too much of a role call. I

1194
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: would say maybe. And then he just happens to be

1195
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: at Target knowing exactly what this woman's buying.

1196
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. Tomato, Tomato, you think that's crazy.

1197
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it's bordering on Warren, How

1198
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: did you find out about the Snickers?

1199
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: Because he probably spoke to her prying. Okay, Okay, there

1200
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: could be prying.

1201
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: And I mean he barely sees these people. How do

1202
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: you even recognize her?

1203
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: That's true, Well, you recognize your neighbors every now and then.

1204
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It feels like the neighbor's trying

1205
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: to keep away from him. They're dropping the gift and

1206
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: like avoiding except for oh god, I had to go

1207
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: buy Snickers and now I'm running into.

1208
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: War and the neighbor could knock on his door and

1209
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: deliver the right. But I don't know. I think this

1210
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: is like very polite and considerate of the neighbors. Okay, Okay,

1211
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: and Warren.

1212
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: And interesting, right, so you're on everyone else's side, but me,

1213
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean there's an immediate no.

1214
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 3: I think. I think I'm on the neighbor's side. I

1215
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: do think, you know, if Warren could, I don't know.

1216
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what the inmbound. I don't really understand

1217
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: the imbalance. Okay. Are there times where he chooses not

1218
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: to bring their gift to them?

1219
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Like maybe they're not ordering, they're not. That's the other

1220
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: thing we're learning here is Warren is deeply materialistic. He's

1221
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: ordering things NonStop, right, probably from a problematic retailer.

1222
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1223
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: And these people, meanwhile, I live a very minimal life.

1224
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: Right.

1225
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Their packages they get are probably homemade, yes, and probably

1226
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying everything they can to keep their

1227
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: footprint as small as possible.

1228
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: That's true.

1229
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: He's blasting the ac in his apartment alone, definitely, windows

1230
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: probably open.

1231
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean that's just he's.

1232
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: Living this life that's out of control, right, and his

1233
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: neighbors are trying to Warren is on the verge. But

1234
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean all of this, with all of this in mind,

1235
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: what to Sworren get these people?

1236
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: Well, my first instinct was to say, a lovely handwritten

1237
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: card and a Target gift card. Oh, but when you

1238
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: made it so like it was creepy, it changed my

1239
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: thoughts about the Target gift card because it's like, this

1240
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: is how I know you from Target. Now you're my

1241
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: target now exactly, and now that creeping out. With that

1242
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: being said, I always think like a gift card to

1243
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: a restaurant, and if they have a kid, a gift

1244
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: card to a nice kid friendly restaurant. Perhaps a chain

1245
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: is a good way to you can't can't hurt to

1246
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: get to let people go to outback for one hundred.

1247
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: Bucks, you know you can get all kinds of things

1248
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: that all kinds of stuffs.

1249
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, get a brownie Sunday, get a bloomin onion, a

1250
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: bloomin onion. I think that's a nice gesture. Even if

1251
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: it was just like fifty dollars. I still think a

1252
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 3: card with a thank you for being so considerate, right

1253
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: is the is the real gift there.

1254
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: Now I will say about you have to be very

1255
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: careful with restaurant amounts on gift cards. If you give

1256
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: too little, you now put them in a trap where

1257
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: why if they want to go to that restaurant but

1258
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: they feel they need to correct and are going to

1259
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: be spending more.

1260
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: That's right, but it's a family of three.

1261
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: Family of three, so assume thirty three dollars for each

1262
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: person one hundred I think one hundred dollars. That's a

1263
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: nice night out at outpack and listen.

1264
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: If they are on the frugal side, they can go twice.

1265
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: They could go hundreds of times.

1266
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: They could go for five onions and are right, although

1267
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: that might then kill them from heart attacks, and then

1268
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: it would be Warren's fault.

1269
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: But at that point he might be looking for a

1270
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: vacant apartment.

1271
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 3: He's moving well, he might be a back. Warren's back.

1272
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: Warren's on the merge, warns and.

1273
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: Takes their apartment, knocks down the wall he's got.

1274
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: He expands, he rips the ceiling out, all in the plans,

1275
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: all along. Snickers ice cream bars are delicious.

1276
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm honest, I'm not a fan of caramel or

1277
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: milk chocolate.

1278
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: This is a rough place for you to be.

1279
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: Love, dark chocolate.

1280
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: They should make a dark one, not a n ice cream.

1281
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't think they make a dark Snickers.

1282
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: Oh I could do that. I just don't like caramel.

1283
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge candy bar person.

1284
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then this is not the cream bar for you.

1285
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm also like very annoying about ice cream. Oh, how

1286
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: so I'm over hard ice cream? I'm over it. I

1287
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 3: just want I just want soft.

1288
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: Where are you getting soft ice cream?

1289
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: Foster's Freeze?

1290
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 2: Okay? Sure?

1291
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: And then ultimately there's literally one place in El Segundo,

1292
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: and my friends will tell you I'm a absolute lunatic

1293
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: because I will travel quite a distance to get dessert,

1294
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 3: a good dessert. Sure, because it's important to me. Of course,

1295
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: there's a place called Dipped ice Cream, Oh el Segundo, Okay,

1296
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 3: where they have delicious soft serve that they dunk in shells.

1297
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm very familiar.

1298
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean it is. You've been to this place?

1299
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm familiar with the dip because mister softy dip.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: In you Tah, there's a restaurant chain called Arctic Circle.

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Speaker 2: And what they call this product when they dip it

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Speaker 2: in chocolate is a brown topper.

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Speaker 3: Oh. Which that's not the right they do. Wow, that's

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01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: a very innocent.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's just an interesting fact. I like to from

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Speaker 2: outside of Utah.

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Speaker 3: Sad whoa brown topper. That's a mistake that they could

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: never have seen coming. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: Wow tough.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they've changed it, but it's an

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Speaker 2: interesting Uh.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, dipped ice cream is a huge brown topper.

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Speaker 2: And wait, what's theme of the place in El Segundo

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: dipped dipped ice cream, kipped cone or something? Have you

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: been to heavy Handed? This is also a drive. It's

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Speaker 2: in Studio City.

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Speaker 3: Heavy Handed.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's the best soft service cream I've ever Oh

1322
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: my god, tell me everything. They only have three flavors

1323
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: I believe, chocolate, vanilla, and actually maybe just swirl. But

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: it's so well made. I've never had soft served like

1325
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: this before. I'm like this, the care put into this product,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it so unnecessary. They'll do a dip, they

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Speaker 2: do multiple dips.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is important to me.

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01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: Heavy handed, Yeah, heavy handed, delicious, absolutely wonderful ice cream

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01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: cut that's on my rate are now it feels like

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: soft serve is kind of making a swing back.

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I don't know. I don't

1333
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: know at what point I just lost interest in hard

1334
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: ice cream, but I just did. I just did, and

1335
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: I love because you know what it is, quite honestly,

1336
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: the ice cream is less about the ice cream and

1337
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: more about the dip, the brown topper, or I want, genuinely,

1338
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: I want an obscene amount of sprinkles, to the point

1339
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: that I can't even see the ice.

1340
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: Cream colored sprinkles or chocolate sprinkle colored. Oh I love

1341
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: a chocolate sprinkle over an ice cream soft serve.

1342
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: Give me both, but I want I don't want to

1343
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: see the ice cream. I don't want to see ice cream.

1344
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: I want to see sprinkles. And then I want extras

1345
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: to dip this, dip the ice cream into as you eat. Yes,

1346
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: I love the texture. The texture marriage there.

1347
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: You really don't find a texture like sprinkles anywhere else

1348
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: in nature.

1349
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 3: No, And you know, at these sort of bespoke places,

1350
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: even like Magpies, which is say, it's good, but they

1351
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: do that sort of like Whole Foods sprinkles that are

1352
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: not bright enough and they just kind of like dirizzaletle

1353
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: couple on and it's like no, no, no, this isn't

1354
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: a garnish. This is half the meal for me.

1355
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: This is a protective shell from the ice This.

1356
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: Is a protective shell. Give me the I don't want

1357
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: to see the ice cream, but they have those, like

1358
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, lay mass sprinkles.

1359
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: Right justice the toppings bar. There leaves a lot to

1360
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: be desired.

1361
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: It's fun, It's like, oh, honeycomb, that's fun. But then

1362
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: it's like all right, all right, I get it. I'm

1363
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: going to Foster's Freeze, which we don't really have that

1364
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: like in New York. Like I feel like mister Softy

1365
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: out of the truck, which is perfection, but also like

1366
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 3: comes in exhaust like you comes in exhaust. There used

1367
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: to be tcby, which I was obsessed with it as

1368
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: a kid, But we don't really like New York, but

1369
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: especially like the northeastern region, even like New England. Hard

1370
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: ice cream is the stuff.

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: That's all you get.

1372
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 3: That's all you get.

1373
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: It's excellent made, but.

1374
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: You hate it. I don't hate it. I'm just like

1375
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: don't like it. I could take it or leave it. Yeah,

1376
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: I could take it or leave it. Yeah, could take

1377
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: it or leave it. Give me I need That's why

1378
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we never had like dairy what's it called

1379
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: dairy Freeze, Dairy Freeze, dairy Queen. We had actually on

1380
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: Long Island, we had someone called dairy Barn, which is

1381
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: like a drive through.

1382
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh.

1383
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: I like it's so rustic sounding for the least rustic

1384
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: place on Earth. But they didn't have like ice cream

1385
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: or anything. It was just groceries that someone gave to you. Yeah,

1386
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 3: it's so weird.

1387
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: I hope you could at least buy milk.

1388
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: You could. That's what kind of what it was for.

1389
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: That's what it started with. Unless you were John Tesh

1390
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: right by water and Flakes. Well, yeah, you support your

1391
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: soft serve journey.

1392
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1393
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of getting into it now. But I'm

1394
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: going to go to DiPT.

1395
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: Yes, It's it's worth the trip. I'm a big fan.

1396
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this, and I'm excited. I think

1397
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: you've kind of converted me to the View.

1398
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna like it.

1399
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: This is the exact type of television I'm looking to.

1400
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: What if, like in a week, you're like watching the View,

1401
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 3: listening to Howard Stern wearing your clothes. My clothes, by

1402
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: the way, I wore my short shorts because Alan h

1403
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: Allen my friend was talking about short shorts on this podcast,

1404
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: right and decrying them because he likes to wear his

1405
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: long sort of Billie Eilish, you know angle length capri, Yeah, Capri,

1406
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 3: pant Janko short shorts, and I wear mine with pride.

1407
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: You've got to wear a short short.

1408
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: I wear them with pride.

1409
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's got to get their legs out there.

1410
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: I love that guy's show legs now. Oh of course

1411
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 3: the in seems you're getting higher and higher straight guys too,

1412
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: and I love it.

1413
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: I think it's fight against the basketball short.

1414
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: Fight against it. Paul Meskill like lead the.

1415
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: Doing an incredible job.

1416
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: He's doing a service, short service, all men, all men, Yes,

1417
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: I love it.

1418
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Everybody put on your short shorts. Watch the view

1419
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: that's eat brown topper.

1420
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: I think nothing of it, like nothing is more to me,

1421
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: like when if I if you were to ask me

1422
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: about myself, to describe myself, like I never ever ever

1423
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: gave a shit about astrology, sign horoscopes, but the more

1424
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm in la. All of course, my

1425
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 3: friends people are always into horoscopes. So I understand the

1426
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: idea that as a Gemini I have I could have

1427
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: two personalities. Oh sure, whatever, it is like just you know,

1428
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: twin personalities. And I used to like kind of like,

1429
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: you know, sort of wave it away as nonsense, and

1430
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: then in recent years it's like God, I listened to

1431
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: I worship like Howard Stern and like the view like

1432
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 3: this is these are my things that I'm oh, I

1433
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: can't miss, and it's like they couldn't be you know, further.

1434
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 2: Apart, you're essentially two face.

1435
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: I'm two face, So I guess that's it. I'm a Gemini.

1436
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm a double Gemini, owned the Gemini. I'm owning it.

1437
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: I support that. I'm a Libra and apparently it's the

1438
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: source of almost every one of my problems.

1439
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean at this point, I just it's you're

1440
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: in la. So what can you do except throw your

1441
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: hands up and go, okay, sure got me, you got me.

1442
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the book. I'm going to be

1443
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: diving into this, maybe reading, then watching and then watching

1444
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: and then reading.

1445
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very different from the book. The show is

1446
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: very different from the book that you're gonna that you're

1447
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 3: gonna read. In the Boo Book, Michelle, you're reading the book,

1448
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: but it's still delightful and chaotic, truly, truly late, it's chaotic.

1449
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. Well, thank you for being here, thank

1450
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: you for having me. I've had a delightful time. And listener,

1451
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: the podcast is over. We've heard so many helicopters today,

1452
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: and I hope you were keeping count at least seven.

1453
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,919
Speaker 2: Well I was obviously wasn't keeping count. But the podcast

1454
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: is over. Get moving, do whatever you need to do.

1455
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an

1456
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson,

1457
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't

1458
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,

1459
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.

1460
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said

1461
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's

1462
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous

1463
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures

1464
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: of the gifts.

1465
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1466
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: But you're a guess to my home.

1467
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,

1468
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: you're own presences, presents enough that I already had too

1469
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me?