Speaker 1: Check it down.
Speaker 2: The numbers told the story. They always down. Swando's idiots
Speaker 2: will believe in the analytics.
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Speaker 2: Kelly Bidlin alive from bar Canada at the d down
Speaker 2: Town guessing lines for week number four in the National
Speaker 2: Football League. Kelly, good morning to you, sir. Morning. How
Speaker 2: you doing. Is there anything better than waking up on
Speaker 2: a Monday morning and talking about football? Anything?
Speaker 1: Anything? If my survivor choice was still alive, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be. That could be a little bit better. See
Speaker 1: there's my donation to CIRCA. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Jags, some of us still alive.
Speaker 1: Hit it.
Speaker 2: Oh he's not. He's out on the trigger. See he's
Speaker 2: not where. He's not ready to go.
Speaker 1: It's not ready to go with this.
Speaker 2: Okay, that works.
Speaker 1: We're not yet in mid season four. We'll get there.
Speaker 2: I am alive, I said on Friday, as like some
Speaker 2: combination of the Jags and the Chiefs. I did lose
Speaker 2: one to the Jags. I've lost one each week. I
Speaker 2: started with five, so I've got two left. Two left
Speaker 2: in a week of Survivor carnage. A week of Survivor
Speaker 2: Carnage where Kelly from what was left in the Circus
Speaker 2: Survivor pool of five. So it started out with nine
Speaker 2: thou two hundred and sixty seven. There were five nine
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four left after two weeks, fifty eight
Speaker 2: point one two percent heading into tonight's doubleheader of that
Speaker 2: remaining group got bounced yesterday over forty percent on the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars from the beginning of the pool. From the
Speaker 2: beginning of the pool, A just here's the thing, let me,
Speaker 2: let me do it this, let me do as a
Speaker 2: comparison to last year, so far, out of the nine thousand,
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty seven that started, twenty four hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty one are left. That means that's seventy three
Speaker 2: point two three percent of the beginning Survivor pool have
Speaker 2: been bounced again not yet with week three done, seventy
Speaker 2: three point two three percent.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many? You know what percentage was
Speaker 1: out after week three last year?
Speaker 2: Sixty two seventy four point seventy three percent, so it's
Speaker 2: almost identical. It is almost identical, one point five percent behind,
Speaker 2: and we still have two games to go, almost the
Speaker 2: exact same percentage, which corroborates my point from the beginning
Speaker 2: that all it doesn't matter if you buy fifty survivor entries.
Speaker 2: It's all proportional, it's all. That's why I think there's
Speaker 2: a point of redundancy with survivor entries. You shouldn't be
Speaker 2: buying us. Sorry, Derek Stevens, I apologize for this, but literally, like,
Speaker 2: if you buy fifty of them proportionally, you're still going
Speaker 2: to be down the same amount.
Speaker 1: I love the up the amount just because I think
Speaker 1: the conversation about it's fascinating. It's like, what the what
Speaker 1: the real or the best number, ideal number is to
Speaker 1: play it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's tremidous. So two. I had two
Speaker 2: on Kansas City, I had one on the Jaguars. We'll
Speaker 2: talk obviously about each and every game week number three.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing I can say before we get into
Speaker 2: the games from yesterday. First of all, for those who
Speaker 2: are just tuning in for the first time, we've done
Speaker 2: this for over a decade, Chris Andrews and I have
Speaker 2: done it. And the reason that we do this is
Speaker 2: because the first impression is typically the best. I won't
Speaker 2: say typically, oftentimes most of the time the best. Kelly
Speaker 2: last Monday is a perfect example. Well, we're the three
Speaker 2: games sided. I love the Detroit Lions, I love the
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. I love the Miami Dolphins. Bingo, bengo, bengo.
Speaker 2: I probably should have said bongo on the last one,
Speaker 2: but and now Miami, even Miami on the By the
Speaker 2: end of the week, I was already with I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that pick so much,
Speaker 2: but it shows you the first impression is the right one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: typically that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I think there's also a Wattle injury news right that
Speaker 1: probably made you a little bit more concerned.
Speaker 2: It made me a little bit. Wes Reynolds had a
Speaker 2: good dissertation on Denver on the megapod. It was like
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But man, I mean, by the way,
Speaker 2: let me just say this about Kelly, though, you're what
Speaker 2: in millions.
Speaker 1: Through three weeks eleven and four, bruh, eleven and four,
Speaker 1: Let's go. I don't think it's gonna be good enough
Speaker 1: for the core. But hey man, let's keep it rolling.
Speaker 1: We both had four and ones in millions this week.
Speaker 2: Jack's nine didn't get there. Jack Mine was Washington. On
Speaker 2: this day of atonement, yom kipor, ladies and gentlemen, may
Speaker 2: I atone for the pick of Washington. That was stupid.
Speaker 2: It's always the fifth pick. Do you ever feel like that?
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you get to four, like
Speaker 1: relatively easily, You always got to add one more so
Speaker 1: it makes his contest impossible.
Speaker 2: It really does. It's really amazing. Let's get to it
Speaker 2: because obviously so much talk about the headline, maybe of
Speaker 2: all headlines, being just coaching decision nightmare galore. Let's do
Speaker 2: the Thursday night game. Let's get that out of the way,
Speaker 2: all right. Thursday night we got Lions at Packers. Lions
Speaker 2: at Packers. Again. We go through the game from this
Speaker 2: past week, or the games that apply to the teams
Speaker 2: that are in the matchups this coming week, and we try,
Speaker 2: I don't know the lines I come in with in
Speaker 2: a cocoon, I guess the lines. Kelly will tell us
Speaker 2: the can census actual line, and within that process we
Speaker 2: hope to extract some value first impressions of the upcoming
Speaker 2: week's lines. Obviously still a double header of football tonight,
Speaker 2: Detroit at green Bay. You said, is that? What you said?
Speaker 2: Is that correct? Two in one Lions, two in one
Speaker 2: Packers and NFC Norris Division clashes. Chris Burmer usul to say,
Speaker 2: Detroit beats Atlanta and again some of the easiest handicaps
Speaker 2: thus far in the early season, I feel have been
Speaker 2: the sort of transitive property where I said week two,
Speaker 2: I said, Seattle got crushed by the Rams in Week one,
Speaker 2: and so all of you who thought the Seahawks were
Speaker 2: going to be the fourth best team in the NFC,
Speaker 2: the market seems to have forgotten that. And the Lions
Speaker 2: were big six point favorites against the Seahawks in Week two.
Speaker 2: And the same thing applied here with the Lions, which is,
Speaker 2: how in the world are the Lions only three point
Speaker 2: favorites for the Falcons when a lot of people thought
Speaker 2: they'd be the fourth best team in the NFC after
Speaker 2: they get beat by Seattle. The recency buyas is amazing. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we pick up Detroit Atlanta halftime stats. The score was
Speaker 2: thirteen to three Lions at this point, Desmond Ritter had
Speaker 2: been sacked four times for the Falcons. By the half,
Speaker 2: the Falcons only had six first downs, They were one
Speaker 2: of six on third down. They only had eighty four
Speaker 2: total yards, and by contrast, Jared Goff was fifteen of
Speaker 2: twenty one for one eighty eight with one touchdown, no score.
Speaker 2: It had not been sacked, and yet the Lions were
Speaker 2: only up ten. Despite that statistical mismatch, a third quarter
Speaker 2: to Lions punted young Heyko missed the forty seven yard
Speaker 2: field will try teams traded punts two more times than
Speaker 2: the last play of the third quarter, still a thirteenth
Speaker 2: to three game. Third and fourteen at their own eighteen
Speaker 2: golf was picked by Jesse Bates the third and you figured, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: here it is. Despite the statistical matchup, Atlanta's gonna get
Speaker 2: back in the game. But a four and out for
Speaker 2: Atlanta fourth and fourth of Detroit thirty two failed. Ridder
Speaker 2: incomplete intended for London. Lions then went sixty three yards
Speaker 2: golf in from three out twenty to three Detroit with
Speaker 2: nine to fifty left. They end up winning it twenty
Speaker 2: to six. Kind of a whole football game. Golf finished
Speaker 2: twenty two of thirty three for two forty three, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick. He was not sacked. He did score on
Speaker 2: the ground as well, And I'm on Saint Brown, Amon Ross,
Speaker 2: Saint Brown, pardon me. Nine catches for one hundred two yards.
Speaker 2: Green Bay beats the New Orleans Saints in a game
Speaker 2: where Derek Carr got bounced first of all. New Orleans
Speaker 2: went up to went up seventeen to nothing in this game.
Speaker 2: It was fourth and two at the New Orleans forty
Speaker 2: four in a scoreless game for Green Bay. They went
Speaker 2: for it and failed. It was a halfback play where
Speaker 2: he threw it back to Jordan Love. He threw it
Speaker 2: low Jordan Love split you know, slipped almost to the splits,
Speaker 2: missed a wide open receiver. Saints subsequently went fifty six
Speaker 2: yards car to Jimmy Graham from made out seven to
Speaker 2: nothing New Orleans six forty left in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Teams traded punts, then ten forty seven left in the
Speaker 2: second quarter. Daniel Wielin punted for Green Bay. Rashid Shaheed
Speaker 2: to the house seventy six yards to peytrt fourteen to nothing.
Speaker 2: New Orleans. As I said, it was seventeen to nothing.
Speaker 2: At halftime and then the Saints first possession Kelly in
Speaker 2: the second half, third and nine at midfield, Derek Carr
Speaker 2: sacked by Rashaan Gary, hurt his shoulder, went to the
Speaker 2: locker room, never returned. Jamis in your guy, that's right.
Speaker 2: Teams sweet five yard out to go, first to go.
Speaker 2: Teams traded punts. Fourth quarter, still down seventeen to nothing.
Speaker 2: We're in the fourth quarter, fourth and two at the
Speaker 2: New Orleans thirteen and Matt Lafleur decides, you know what,
Speaker 2: we need three scores. We're not gonna kick the field goal.
Speaker 2: We'll go for it. First play the fourth quarter, Pack
Speaker 2: go for it Love incomplete intended for Patrick Taylor. Still
Speaker 2: still seventeen to nothing. New Orleans three and out. Pack
Speaker 2: matriculate again. This time they do kick a field goal
Speaker 2: Anders Carlson from thirty eight. It's seventeen to three, still
Speaker 2: down two touchdowns now with eleven minutes left. Didn't kick
Speaker 2: the field goal the first time, decided to kick it
Speaker 2: the second time. After a Saints punt, Green Bay goes
Speaker 2: eighty yards Love in from one on fourth and goal,
Speaker 2: down seventeen to nine, down eight add Matt Lafleur to
Speaker 2: the list of coaches down eight in that situation, who
Speaker 2: decided to go for two analytically driven love to Samory Terrey.
Speaker 2: It is converted seventeen to eleven, six fifty five left,
Speaker 2: New Orleans another three and out Green Bay go's eighty
Speaker 2: more love to Jaden Reid the big one, love to
Speaker 2: Romeo domsrom eight out eighteen to seventeen. Green Bay two
Speaker 2: to fifty six left. New Orleans does get it into
Speaker 2: field goal range behind Jamis, but Blake Groupe misses from
Speaker 2: forty six wide right. Once En left ballgame as Green
Speaker 2: Bay kneels it out outscored New Orleans eighteen to nothing
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter alone, erasing the seventeen to nothing deficit.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love twenty two to forty four for two to
Speaker 2: fifty nine, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked once.
Speaker 2: Nine carries for thirty nine yards and a touchdown. He
Speaker 2: was their leading rusher as well. Eleven penalties for ninety
Speaker 2: yards to the Packers. They need to clean that up,
Speaker 2: as they say. Detroit at Green Bay two two and
Speaker 2: one teams vying for the division lead. I said, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I was lazy, but I said A
Speaker 2: pick them what is it?
Speaker 1: This is Detroit one at DraftKings right now? You shop
Speaker 1: around though, this is mainly one and a half two
Speaker 1: in the market for Detroit.
Speaker 2: One and a half two for Detroit. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not gonna go crazy about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I guess I know that they. I mean
Speaker 1: Packers walk away with a win yesterday. I think I've
Speaker 1: got more concerns after a win actually about with that team.
Speaker 2: Do you have an NC North ticket on them?
Speaker 1: Too? No? I do not, Okay, no, it might must
Speaker 1: be Matt Brownd then I've got that NNC North ticket
Speaker 1: on Jordan Love is just still hard to figure out.
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's some there's some downfield throws
Speaker 1: he's missing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of Rock Party, a
Speaker 1: little bit where they're finding some success, but there's just
Speaker 1: some throws he's missing.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you just see points and opportunities left
Speaker 1: out on the field. So there are definitely some questions
Speaker 1: walking away from that game. And you mentioned the running game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a j. Dillon, you know, struggling
Speaker 1: to get things going when everybody has talked about this
Speaker 1: guy like he's gonna be the next big thing up there.
Speaker 1: I think they need that two headed monster running strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I think there is not an outcome
Speaker 2: that would surprise me in this game. I suppose one
Speaker 2: team just blew the other off the field. Maybe it would, yeah,
Speaker 2: but nothing would surprise me in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you, Yeah it would be past. But
Speaker 1: I don't really have any interest. And I think the
Speaker 1: other thing is just going back to that Detroit Atlanta game.
Speaker 1: I got involved with this with this small yesterday, but
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta, will you talk about a team if
Speaker 1: they fall behind, like, I am more than ready to
Speaker 1: live bet the other side because I just don't trust
Speaker 1: Ritard and get them back in these games.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to them when we get to them.
Speaker 2: But one of my things going into this is I'm
Speaker 2: anxious to hear what my guess is juxtaposed against that line,
Speaker 2: because I'm wondering if Atlanta is that team this year
Speaker 2: that constantly gets overrated by the market. Yeah, early on
Speaker 2: it kind of feels that way to me. I defense,
Speaker 2: but what happens when you get behind? That's the Thursday
Speaker 2: night gave no real uh real big thought or no
Speaker 2: real triggering of a bet there. We'll get to Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Kelly Bidlin guessing lines for week four. We get tweets
Speaker 2: at beating the book from this morning. Charlie d USA
Speaker 2: number one survivor Carnage. He says, yes, indeed it was
Speaker 2: Grayson Rossi. It's a shame nothing happened yesterday in football.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Gil's gonna fill time with his
Speaker 2: recaps during guessing lines today. I think we will figure
Speaker 2: it out. Jesse Welch, I'm sure you're getting a ton
Speaker 2: of this, but it looks like maybe Todd wishneb was
Speaker 2: actually correct about going for two first attempt went down
Speaker 2: to score. Surprise. The debate on the first megapot of
Speaker 2: the year was a fezick and wish nev think eighty
Speaker 2: percent of teams get to go for two when they're
Speaker 2: down fourteen and they score to get it to eight,
Speaker 2: and me and Will Hill were like, there's no chance
Speaker 2: at eighty. But there was more of that going on yesterday. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean green Bay did somebody else do it? I thought?
Speaker 2: I thought, I said Nick Kendhammer, so funny finishing last
Speaker 2: week's A ANDNG and Kelly was worried about the Dolphins
Speaker 2: without Waddle, Well, yeah, nould be worried now. My dot
Speaker 2: is zero two over under two and a half. Sports
Speaker 2: Betting Truth Serum references on Guessing lines with Gil today.
Speaker 2: This also from Charlie Devers, is I think Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: may be the only coach that practices the end of
Speaker 2: game scenarios. These guru coaches don't rehearse practice these critical moments.
Speaker 2: Feels like a lack of discipline and not understanding practical experience.
Speaker 2: We will get to all of that obviously. Josh McDaniel's
Speaker 2: coming up on the show. Brand it's Dalley coming up
Speaker 2: on the show. I think it gets back to something
Speaker 2: we've talked about many times on the beating of Book Mega,
Speaker 2: perhaps on a numbers game too, which is Kelly. I
Speaker 2: think these coaches are so x's and o's tunnel visioned right.
Speaker 2: They are all week long myopic with their x's and
Speaker 2: o's that I really feel like we watch actually more
Speaker 2: football than they do, more actual football game than they do.
Speaker 2: They're so wrapped up in their lab that when it
Speaker 2: comes to situational analysis, some of them appear.
Speaker 1: To be clueless, which we'll get to. Yeah, on all
Speaker 1: of these really I hear you. I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: of those one of those things I've said for a
Speaker 1: long time, but it's like the it was. It's like
Speaker 1: when online pokery became a big thing where people became
Speaker 1: so much more knowledgeable when it came to the odds
Speaker 1: and hands because you're playing so many hands versus the
Speaker 1: guy who's just playing live in real life. So we
Speaker 1: always talk about, like hire the kid who's twenty five
Speaker 1: that I know has hundreds of hours of bad and
Speaker 1: under his belt because time score situation, he's seen this
Speaker 1: stuff a thousand times.
Speaker 2: Jay and Jay watering Hole. Is Josh McDaniel your new
Speaker 2: Anthony Lynn on decision making guessing he will need multiple
Speaker 2: segments like he needed multip possessions to cover this buffoon
Speaker 2: this morning. We'll get to Josh VI Daniel. We'll get
Speaker 2: it in time. Let's go to Sunday because we want
Speaker 2: to do this chronologically. Try to extract some value here London.
Speaker 2: Maybe Jacksonville will feel more at home there. Gil Falcons
Speaker 2: Verst the Jags in London. I actually, I actually do
Speaker 2: think those are good games for Jacksonville to be in London.
Speaker 2: They played more London games than anybody. They know the
Speaker 2: routine better than anybody. Atlanta, as we just talked about,
Speaker 2: they are two and one. They lost to Green Bay
Speaker 2: Ridder in the end Desmond Ridder twenty one of thirty
Speaker 2: eight for two a one, no touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked seven times.
Speaker 2: By the Green Bay Packers, one hundred and eighty three
Speaker 2: total yards for the Falcons offense in that loss, and
Speaker 2: as far as Jacksonville, which again survivor carnage, including one
Speaker 2: of mine and Kelly's only survivor play and I guess
Speaker 2: Matt Brown all three of his is what we are
Speaker 2: led to believe. Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot forgot them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he does that.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville loses to Houston, I believe for the tenth time
Speaker 2: in eleven to the Houston Texans. That is there kryptonite.
Speaker 2: After a McManus missed forty eight yard field goal, Texans
Speaker 2: win sixty two yards, most on a Stroud to Tank
Speaker 2: Dell forty six yard game. Two plays later, Damian Pierce
Speaker 2: in from one seven to nothing, Houston seven thirty five left.
Speaker 2: First quarter. All right, no big deal, one score After
Speaker 2: trade Uponts, McManus has a fifty one yard attempt blocked.
Speaker 2: Houston then goes fifty nine yards Stroud to Brevan Johnson
Speaker 2: from four out, fourteen to nothing, Houston seven to twenty
Speaker 2: seven left in the second quarter, and already survivor panic
Speaker 2: sets in for those with Jacksonville entries. After a trade
Speaker 2: of months Jacksonville third and ten at the Houston forty
Speaker 2: five one thirteen laft. Second quarter, Lawrence to Jamal Agnew
Speaker 2: passed the sticks but hit by Eric Murray. He fumbles,
Speaker 2: Blake Cashman recovers, Texans get a twenty eight yard fairburn
Speaker 2: Field goal came he fairburn field goal out of it
Speaker 2: seventeen to nothing Houston at the half. Halftime stats Stroud
Speaker 2: fourteen of twenty one for one sixty two, seven point
Speaker 2: seven yards per attempt, Lawrence ten of sixteen for eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Jags were one of six on third downs. Okay, Jags
Speaker 2: take the opening drive of the quarter sixty seven yards,
Speaker 2: helped by a Texans PI bigsby in from one seventeen
Speaker 2: to seven Houston, and if you have the Jacksonville survivor entry,
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, is a good start. Then then after
Speaker 2: a Houston three and ount McMahon's thirty three yard field
Speaker 2: well cuts the lead to Houston seventeen to ten, four
Speaker 2: thirty six left third quarter, if you've got the Jacksonville
Speaker 2: survivor entries.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, still in a gill, No problem, this
Speaker 1: is happening, especially since what percentage Ben and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this quick yesterday. What percentage of people like
Speaker 1: me were on the Jags and also on the Giants
Speaker 1: the week before? So you were in no sweat town
Speaker 1: right now, No no problem.
Speaker 2: After that week before, Jags have all the momentum ensuing
Speaker 2: kickoff mortar kick, full back Andrew Beck fumbles it, picks
Speaker 2: it up off the turf, goes fifty five yards to
Speaker 2: the hiszy twenty four to ten Houston for eighteen left
Speaker 2: third quarter and at that point you might have said
Speaker 2: to yourself, maybe it's not gonna happen at all.
Speaker 1: Things I shouldn't say on air. But were you not
Speaker 1: watching that return and thinking to yourself, I could.
Speaker 2: Have got that guy reminded who was the new England
Speaker 2: lineman who almost took it to the house the one time? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember, and I don't remember who it was.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I was like, he started breaking
Speaker 1: out to the edge and I'm like, okay, well someonlet's
Speaker 1: get it, get him, And You're like, where is everybody?
Speaker 2: This This led Wishnev late last night into a big
Speaker 2: rabbit hole of how many fullbacks have ever returned a
Speaker 2: punt for a touchdown?
Speaker 1: I believe it was the He's the heaviest man to
Speaker 1: ever return a kick for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I believe is what I heard, Yes, Dar unbelievable. Twenty
Speaker 2: four to ten Houston, four eighteen left third quarter, fifth play,
Speaker 2: following drive Jags third and seven at the Houston thirty
Speaker 2: eight Lawrence picked by Blake Cashman two twenty left third quarter.
Speaker 2: Texans up twenty seven to ten when the Jags get
Speaker 2: it within ten again, twenty seven to seventeen on a
Speaker 2: Lawrence to Kirk twenty six yard touchdown pass with ten
Speaker 2: forty left, But then Houston put the nail on the coffin.
Speaker 2: They go seventy five yards in three plays. Stroud to
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk for sixty eight thirty four to seventeen with
Speaker 2: eight fifty nine left forget about it. Texans would end
Speaker 2: up winning thirty seven to seventeen. Survivor Kart and I
Speaker 2: ash once again. Over two thousand entries in circa gone
Speaker 2: Lawrence twenty seven of forty for two seventy nine, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: one pick was not sacked, minus two and turnovers that
Speaker 2: led to a plus six net Texans points. This is London,
Speaker 2: It's Atlanta at Jacksonville. I will say, I put Jacksonville
Speaker 2: in no man's landa I put them in minus five
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Jags three basically painted across the board.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's my reaction to that, exactly what I
Speaker 2: was saying out before the break. I feel like Atlanta
Speaker 2: might end up being the chronically overvalued team in the
Speaker 2: market every week because I don't know what it is
Speaker 2: about this team that what is it about Desmond Ritter
Speaker 2: in this offense that leads anyone to believe they should
Speaker 2: be this tightly lined at Detroit And then okay, you
Speaker 2: can say, oh, well it's London, it's not Jacksonville. I
Speaker 2: actually think it's a bigger advantage to Jacksonville this travel
Speaker 2: because they're so familiar with it as a franchise. They
Speaker 2: have this streamlined. So I think three is way low.
Speaker 2: I like the Jaguars here.
Speaker 1: I think, without a doubt, you got to get at
Speaker 1: this point like you're you're at this point.
Speaker 2: They've done made this trip so many times.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think you've got a factor
Speaker 1: in a half point or a point home field advantage
Speaker 1: for the Jags in a situation we do. Because I'm
Speaker 1: with you, I don't know that I can get back
Speaker 1: to the Jags this week, not not only after last week,
Speaker 1: but their game against Kansas City too.
Speaker 2: Right, Like they are like they are?
Speaker 1: They have problems in all three phases. The offense hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to put it all together. They're relying on
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley way too much. He might be banged up
Speaker 1: heading into this game. The defense, I mean, how many
Speaker 1: times yesterday there was wide open Texans receivers just why
Speaker 1: you know, running in wide open gaps catching passes. Nobody
Speaker 1: even there. And then the special teams was a freaking
Speaker 1: disaster yesterday. You're talking what a missed field goal? A
Speaker 1: blocked field goal? They'll return kick for a touchdown?
Speaker 2: Yea? Like they are.
Speaker 1: They have problems in all three phases right now?
Speaker 2: And how are you feeling about your Jaguars Division bet?
Speaker 2: Similar to this game? Right?
Speaker 1: If I was more confident in this team, I'd be
Speaker 1: double dipping right now. I'd be laying the three against
Speaker 1: Atlanta because I'm not that high on Atlanta, and I'd
Speaker 1: be getting more involved with a division ticket.
Speaker 2: I'm not super concerned.
Speaker 1: About it yet, Gill, but man, this team's got to
Speaker 1: put some things together. I'll lay the three, You're like three. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like this. I might get there too. It's because
Speaker 1: I'm not very high in Atlanta. And again I think,
Speaker 1: if you can get ten points up on this team,
Speaker 1: it's done. It's over, because I don't believe in Desmond
Speaker 1: Rere leading back to this team from a come from
Speaker 1: behind victory at all.
Speaker 2: They killed Jacksonville killed my teaser of the week. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was four and one in millions to survivor entries
Speaker 2: betting Great Great Sunday in the NFL betting, but the
Speaker 2: teaser got crushed again. Visit Jags couldn't even win. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's not like I think they're
Speaker 2: the greatest team in the world, but I just if
Speaker 2: I'm only laying three, I'll take them here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: When I first saw this line, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: Lily three, Like I thought it was gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of no man's land too, like four, something like that.
Speaker 1: I might get there, but man, this team's got they.
Speaker 2: Got some work to do. Man, for sure, we'll come back.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of games to get to obviously,
Speaker 2: we'll get in catch up mode here. I also want
Speaker 2: to get to the notion of the last undefeated team
Speaker 2: and the last winless team. When my Panthers fifteen to
Speaker 2: one tickets still alive, very pumped about that. Come on,
Speaker 2: Panthers keep losing, and then I don't want to get
Speaker 2: crazy about someone losing their job, but my EVERFLUS ticket,
Speaker 2: which is almost sixteen to one, also, I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: can we can we just end it there in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I won't rejoice because I don't like a guy losing
Speaker 2: his job, but that is a bet as well. We
Speaker 2: shall see more guessing lines week four, right here on
Speaker 2: a numbers game at Visa these Sports Betting Network coming back.
Speaker 2: It's skill, Alexander, It's Kelly Bidlin live at Bark, Canada
Speaker 2: at the d doing some guessing lines. Fezick and I
Speaker 2: are having a childish, childish text exchange. Would you like
Speaker 2: to hear how it goes? It goes like this, he says,
Speaker 2: Fessik goes no way, we can make this line even
Speaker 2: three I predicted, goes down to two and a half,
Speaker 2: even giving Jacksonville one for home field. And then you
Speaker 2: tell me, oh, a two and a half actually popped
Speaker 2: somewhere right, We've already done this game. You tell me
Speaker 2: a two and a half actually popped. I saw one
Speaker 2: this morning, okay, but it popped. So I said to Fesek,
Speaker 2: I go past post. You've already seen a two and
Speaker 2: a half pop. He goes, no, forty dollars mandatory fine
Speaker 2: for a false accusation past post. And then I said
Speaker 2: to him, we saw a two and a half pop.
Speaker 2: Kelly told me eighty dollars fine for accusing someone falsely.
Speaker 2: For accusing someone falsely. Good. So you guys have find
Speaker 2: each children absolute children. We get tweets at beating the book.
Speaker 2: This is from Brandon Webb. I would imagine Green Bay
Speaker 2: gets Aaron Jones back this week. Only reason I keep
Speaker 2: track is because I traded Cooper Cup for him the
Speaker 2: day before his setback. In quotes Ben Handorf, Gilly, what
Speaker 2: are you think about the upcoming slate for survivor? In
Speaker 2: a pool with some work friends north of the border,
Speaker 2: and there's now only forty percent of the twelve hundred remaining. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's actually a pretty stout survivor group, if only for
Speaker 2: if forty percent of remaining, Because circa's down to almost
Speaker 2: twenty five percent. We lost four of eight entries this
Speaker 2: week with Dallas and Jacksonville seriously interested in what you
Speaker 2: think hashtag tough week. Well, I will let you know
Speaker 2: by the end of the show when I have seen
Speaker 2: all the options here and can really digest him. Chris
Speaker 2: Sells fill many preseason talked of having one survivor pick
Speaker 2: just for against Arizona. I think the Bears may be
Speaker 2: the ticket. I can't imagine them winning a game. You're right,
Speaker 2: they may be the new Arizona, because honestly, Arizona could
Speaker 2: be and maybe should be three and zero. That's how
Speaker 2: amazing that is. And then Wegg's pool he said eighty
Speaker 2: five yards. You said fifty five?
Speaker 1: I mean get him?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I mean I must have mistyped
Speaker 2: that into my notes. Eighty five yard punt return for
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans was incredible, incredible, It's just and that
Speaker 2: was the momentum killer for the Jacksonville Jaguars went again.
Speaker 2: Fullback Andrew Beck went eighty five yards to the house
Speaker 2: to win that. All right, let us continue.
Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday, first early window game, Dolphins at Bills.
Speaker 2: Okay, game of now we get to talk the three
Speaker 2: and oh Dolphins at the two and one Bills. The Dolphins.
Speaker 2: As we said, no Jalen Waddell. Third play from scrimmage
Speaker 2: to Tyreek for fifty four yards vance. Joseph and the
Speaker 2: Broncos had Robbie Chosen formerly Robby Anderson in double coverage
Speaker 2: on that play, fifty four yards of the house. Seven
Speaker 2: to nothing Miami one minute and twenty three seconds into
Speaker 2: this ballgame. The play gave Hill twenty nineteen receiving yards
Speaker 2: in a Dolphins uniform. Per ESPN's Jeff Darlington, That's the
Speaker 2: most receiving yards in NFL history by a player in
Speaker 2: his first twenty games with a new team, and that
Speaker 2: was his first catch of the game. Seven and nothing,
Speaker 2: Denver three and out. Miami goes eighty one yards devon
Speaker 2: a chain third round pickout of Texas A and m
Speaker 2: in from eight fourteen to nothing, Miami six thirty one
Speaker 2: left in the first quarter. Then after a Denver seventy
Speaker 2: five yard touchdown drive culminating and a Wilson to Sutton
Speaker 2: Courland Sutton twelve yard touchdown pass, Miami goes seventy five
Speaker 2: again to a shovel pass to eight Jane twenty one
Speaker 2: to seven Miami ten sixteen left. Second quarter, twenty one
Speaker 2: to ten game. Now Miami has fourth and won at
Speaker 2: their own thirty four four point fifty two left.
Speaker 1: In the second quarter.
Speaker 2: They say, hell with it, We're going for it up
Speaker 2: eleven in our own territory. Alec Ingold stuffed for no game,
Speaker 2: Denver bawl down eleven, and you're like, okay, Broncos, they
Speaker 2: could get back in this game, right, Maybe not in
Speaker 2: that voice. I don't know why I put on that voice,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's what you think. That's you think, but
Speaker 2: it wouldn't hurt Miami. Broncos go back seven yards three
Speaker 2: and now Dolphins Dick get then eighty six yards. Most
Speaker 2: are from twenty out twenty eight to ten, Miami one
Speaker 2: forty eight left in the second quarter, and at that
Speaker 2: point you're like, oh wow, that that's the shit in
Speaker 2: the game. From being down eleven, squandering it in plus
Speaker 2: territory and now you're down eighteen set. But then it
Speaker 2: goes from bad to comical, and this is where the
Speaker 2: comedy begins. Down twenty eight to ten. Second play ensuing drive,
Speaker 2: Wilson a sudden hit by Javon Holland fumbles, Andre van
Speaker 2: Ginkel recovers, returns at twenty nine yards. One play later,
Speaker 2: mostered in from three. It's Miami thirty five to ten.
Speaker 2: It's thirty five to thirteen and a half. Wow Tua.
Speaker 2: Halftime stats Kelly sixteen of sixteen for two oh six.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Twelve point nine yards per attempt, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no picks. He wasn't sacked. Tyreek was six for one
Speaker 2: twenty two at a touch At that point, Miami had
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty four total yards of offense at
Speaker 2: the half. At the half, after the Broncos punted to
Speaker 2: start the third quarter, Dolphins matriculate fourth and goal with
Speaker 2: the denver one. We're up twenty two. Field goal, field goal,
Speaker 2: shmeel goal, as my mother used to say, they go
Speaker 2: for it. Most are in from one, forty two to thirteen.
Speaker 2: Seven forty eight left third quarter, another Sutton fumble, Dolphins
Speaker 2: go seventy seven more yards to a demostered mistackle, nineteen
Speaker 2: yards of the house. Forty nine to thirteen Miami. We're
Speaker 2: still in the third quarter. First play, next drive, Wilson
Speaker 2: picked by Emmanuel Lagma. Two plays later, two and a
Speaker 2: eight Chane from ten out fifty six to thirteen. Five
Speaker 2: seconds into the fourth quarter, we have a whole quarter
Speaker 2: to play. It's fifty six to thirteen. Then Mike go
Speaker 2: Wyatt it comes in to replace the two and he
Speaker 2: goes to Robbie chosen the chosen one. Don't even try
Speaker 2: to lift that from us. Robbie sixty eight yards, Marvin
Speaker 2: Mims Junior ninety nine yard kickoff return right after that,
Speaker 2: and then a Devon ah Chine sixty seven yard touchdown
Speaker 2: rud would close out the scoring. Is this real? Seventy
Speaker 2: to twenty Dolphins. By the way, there were eight minutes
Speaker 2: left in the game when it got to seventy to twenty,
Speaker 2: Like it could have been worse. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: There were plenty of records that Dolphins set yesterday at Plony.
Speaker 2: Records they left on the table the most points by
Speaker 2: one team in an NFL game since nineteen hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty and six, the fourth team at NFL history to
Speaker 2: score ten touchdowns in a game that includes playoff games.
Speaker 2: Tua ends up twenty three of twenty six for three
Speaker 2: h nine four touchdowns, no Picksey was not sacked. Eight
Speaker 2: Chane eighteen carries for two hundred three yards. It's like
Speaker 2: a Timmy Smith moment. Two touchdowns, four catches, for thirty
Speaker 2: and two more touchdowns. Most are thirteen for eighty two
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns, seven catches for sixty yards and another touchdown.
Speaker 2: Let me put those together. Eight Chane and Moster together
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns, three hundred and seventy five yards Tyreek Hohom
Speaker 2: nine catches one to fifty seven in a touchdown, the
Speaker 2: seven hundred and twenty six total yards seven hundred and twenty six.
Speaker 2: As that came up on the screen, I said to myself,
Speaker 2: I've been doing guessing lines for over a decade. I've
Speaker 2: never seen that number before. Do you know why, Kelly,
Speaker 2: Because it's the second most in NFL history nineteen fifty
Speaker 2: one ran who could forget it when they had seven
Speaker 2: to thirty five you remember that? Oh yeah, yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: seventy one plays plus three in turnovers. My god, and.
Speaker 1: What the fourth seventy plus point game in NFL history.
Speaker 1: But all the other three were in the forties, so
Speaker 1: you know you gotta go back aways for that.
Speaker 2: Who are they playing it? Oh? At Buffalo? Buffalo is
Speaker 2: really not much to say. They just destroyed Washington. It
Speaker 2: was ten to nothing, Skins had a third and goal
Speaker 2: at the one. They went into shotgun We always love
Speaker 2: that Robinson stuffed for a loss of one fourth and
Speaker 2: goal with the two incomplete pass. This was what eleven
Speaker 2: forty two left in the second quarter. The Bills had
Speaker 2: had a couple more Tyler bass field goals before the
Speaker 2: end of the half, fifty four and thirty two yarders.
Speaker 2: They go up sixteen to nothing, and the last one
Speaker 2: was set up by a howl pick by Micah Hyde
Speaker 2: and Skin's territory. With just over a minute remaining in
Speaker 2: the half. Third quarter, Bills are up sixteen to nothing.
Speaker 2: Howel is picked by Tradavius White in the end zone.
Speaker 2: Then after Allen was picked deep by Kendall Fuller, Washington punts.
Speaker 2: Bills failed to convert on fourth and one at the
Speaker 2: Washington thirty seven with fourteen eighteen left in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: but the first play of the next drive, Howel to
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson. Then he gets hit by Aaron Johnson. He fumbles,
Speaker 2: recovered by Terol Bernard, leads to another Buffalo touchdown drive.
Speaker 2: It's twenty three to zero at that point, and then
Speaker 2: the Coudi Gras third play next drive, Howell tried to
Speaker 2: loop the ball while sprinting to his left over Ajpanessa
Speaker 2: not so much picked picked six thirty to nothing competitive
Speaker 2: portion of the game. Well over, it ends up thirty
Speaker 2: seven to three, and the only reason Washington got a
Speaker 2: three is because they had a audacity to lie to
Speaker 2: line Joey sly Up Joey sly Up for a fifty
Speaker 2: one yard er with under a minute to play, So
Speaker 2: that's the only reason they got points. The Bills d
Speaker 2: had nine sacks and five takeaways. Allen twenty thirty two
Speaker 2: for two eighteen, three carries for forty six yards and
Speaker 2: a touchdown, digs eight for one eleven. They held Washington
Speaker 2: to one of nine on third down, they outgained him
Speaker 2: three eighty six to two thirty and again plus four
Speaker 2: in turnovers that led directly to a net plus seventeen points.
Speaker 1: Gotta be the game of the week.
Speaker 2: I would imagine AFC East showdown at Buffalo. I still
Speaker 2: made it Buffalo minus three.
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo minus two and a half, but it
Speaker 1: is heading that three way.
Speaker 2: I would figure it'd be three.
Speaker 1: It is pretty much two and a half juiced everywhere
Speaker 1: one fifteen one twenty on the two.
Speaker 2: And a half. Okay, so far like Jacksonville best any
Speaker 2: any any thoughts on that one of this game Dolphins Bills, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, Sean Payton memo to Sean Payton, you owen
Speaker 2: three post scab arrogant guy that you are, gosh yeah,
Speaker 2: and don't want to say anything else about Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 2: You want to say anything else about Russell Wilson, anything
Speaker 2: else you gotta.
Speaker 1: Say talks to board trash for the rest of the league.
Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe he should have actually tried to milk
Speaker 2: clock in that game. You know, maybe I'm just thinking, bruh.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be I and Fin's money
Speaker 2: line in this game. I mean, I think that's the
Speaker 2: Bills hole. I think that's the Bill's whole like game, like,
Speaker 2: let's just keep the ball away from the Dolphins, let's
Speaker 2: climb this out. I think three is just sort of
Speaker 2: low as like factory setting for this kind of game.
Speaker 2: I hear you. Yeah, We'll come back a whole bunch
Speaker 2: more to get to Week four guessing lines numbers game
Speaker 2: Vsent the Sports Betting Network. We get tweets at beating
Speaker 2: the book. This is from Trust the Glove. You'll rejoice
Speaker 2: a little bit if Chicago fires. It's coach first just
Speaker 2: don't act happy. I think that's right. Eric b Hey,
Speaker 2: gil broncos over Bears for Survivor Week four that's coming up.
Speaker 2: This is from Blue hen Bill. Never trusting Doug Peterson, Yes,
Speaker 2: he's a dope. In my infinite wisdom, I steered away
Speaker 2: from the Jags save Dallas and Casey then played then
Speaker 2: then played the Ravens. Oh and Casey then played the
Speaker 2: Ravens in my suicide pool. I was brilliant for about
Speaker 2: six minutes, then back to normal. Lol. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: And Kevin Ryan Gil, I can't decide which I hate
Speaker 2: more of my decision to use Jacksonville and all three
Speaker 2: of my Survivor picks or the new Jason Bateman cellular commercial. Well,
Speaker 2: you know what the thing is with Jason Bateman is
Speaker 2: he's the same guy and everything. He's the same guy
Speaker 2: and everything, and he's not that he's not funny, yeah, everything.
Speaker 1: He only plays that guy in like the funny movies,
Speaker 1: who's like the heel or like the annoying guy. But
Speaker 1: Ozark Silver Spoons, he's the same guy.
Speaker 2: He's the same guy. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a comedy or if it's
Speaker 1: a dead serious drama. He's the same guy think about
Speaker 1: think about horrible Bostons. He's just the guy who's agitated
Speaker 1: the entire.
Speaker 2: He's that way in that commercial too. Remaining lone remaining
Speaker 2: unbeaten San Francisco and Miami both three and oh and
Speaker 2: then tonight, if there is a winner, obviously, even there's
Speaker 2: a tie, they'll be unbeaten. Philly and Tampa Bay both
Speaker 2: two and oh uh. And then the remaining winless teams
Speaker 2: Denver oh and three, Minnesota oh and three, Chicago and three,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Carol excuse me, Carolina, oh and three my team,
Speaker 2: my bet, and then Cincinnati is still oh and two
Speaker 2: ready to go? By the way, do you have a
Speaker 2: play in either game tonight? Obviously a double header, which
Speaker 2: again and for those of us who are in fast
Speaker 2: mode today, having football on just that much earlier is
Speaker 2: going to help us through the fast here. Eagles at Bucks.
Speaker 2: Eagles are five point favorites, Rams at Bengals. It does
Speaker 2: not look like Burrow's playing Bengals one and a half
Speaker 2: point favorites. Any play tonight on either game? Nothing for me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: nothing for me. And again, for those who are tuned
Speaker 2: in money, Like, how can you not have any any
Speaker 2: play on the Monday night game. We speak about the
Speaker 2: week's games for a week, we tell you what our
Speaker 2: contest picks are gonna be.
Speaker 1: All of our bets. If it ain't the Monday night games,
Speaker 1: it ain't the Monday night games.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean Rams Bengals.
Speaker 1: I don't unless you're able to get in front of
Speaker 1: whatever movement comes on official news on Burrow. I don't
Speaker 1: really know how you can put a bet in right
Speaker 1: now unless you really like the Rams and and you're
Speaker 1: just going in that direction regardless. In Eagles Bucks I've
Speaker 1: said it since before the season. I got enough respect
Speaker 1: for this Bucks team that it would be Bucks or
Speaker 1: passed for me in that game.
Speaker 2: But I think I'm just staying see, I think the
Speaker 2: end game thing for me is to quickly assess if
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to roll them, you know, but
Speaker 2: we'll see. All right, let's go. We got a lot
Speaker 2: of games to make, Okay, let's start off with the
Speaker 2: second best game of the week, Broncos at Bears. Oh
Speaker 2: my three versus oh and three in that defeat at
Speaker 2: the hands that epic defeat at the hands of the Dolphins, Wilson.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was twenty three of thirty eight for three
Speaker 2: to ZH six. But again, the Broncos gave up seven
Speaker 2: hundred twenty six total yards seventy one plays to the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: They were minus three and turnovers. It's the worst loss
Speaker 2: of Sean Payton's career, fifty points seventy to twenty the
Speaker 2: most points and yards allowed seventy and seven to twenty
Speaker 2: six in Denver Broncos franchise history. Vance Joseph defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: I don't know how he sticks around. I just don't.
Speaker 2: After that yesterday, Chicago, their losing streak now is at
Speaker 2: thirteen after getting bounced by the Chiefs. They've given up
Speaker 2: one hundred and six points in three games. It's the
Speaker 2: second most allowed through three games in team history. And
Speaker 2: not really much to say about this game because after
Speaker 2: the Chiefs punted on their first drive, it went like this.
Speaker 2: Kelly Chicago bunt Kansas City touchdown seven to nothing, Chicago
Speaker 2: bunt Kansas City touchdown fourteen nothing, Chicago punt Kansas City
Speaker 2: touchdown twenty one to nothing. Herbert fumble Kansas City field
Speaker 2: goal twenty four to nothing. Fields picked by Mike Edwards,
Speaker 2: Kansas City touchdown thirty one to nothing. Chicago punt Nigoakuay
Speaker 2: rolls into Mahomes leg he's still Okay, stays in Kansas
Speaker 2: City field goal thirty four to nothing, and oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, that's halftime. So that's all you need to
Speaker 2: know right there. The only good Chicago news of the
Speaker 2: day came when Blaine Gabbard came in for Mahomes. He
Speaker 2: got picked and they actually got a field goal out
Speaker 2: of it. So forty one to ten was the final.
Speaker 2: Fields ended up eleven of twenty two for ninety nine,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times, eleven
Speaker 2: carries for forty seven. They only had eleven first downs
Speaker 2: the Bears. They were out gained four fifty six to
Speaker 2: two oh three. They have allowed twenty five plus points
Speaker 2: in thirteen straight games. Matt Eberflus was hired as from
Speaker 2: the Colts as a He was a defensive coordinator with
Speaker 2: the Colts. Luke gets the as their offensive coordinator. We
Speaker 2: all remember what happened last week with a defensive coordinator leaving, resigning,
Speaker 2: and then that Field's news conference press conference where he's
Speaker 2: like the coaches, I'm too robotic this team has not
Speaker 2: improved at all. Fields has not improved at all either
Speaker 2: gets he's got to go where Everflu's has got to go.
Speaker 2: For my bet, I hope it's ever BLUs. I don't
Speaker 2: want to rejoice again. It's a man losing his job.
Speaker 2: But this is the most moribund team in all of football.
Speaker 2: I agree with that tweet earlier. They're the They're the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep, that everybody thought.
Speaker 1: I mean especially I mean, you're row with three at
Speaker 1: this point, there is I mean, you.
Speaker 2: Have no hope. What is there to believe in? Nothing's
Speaker 2: team right now?
Speaker 1: I mean the the coaching staff is a disaster, Your
Speaker 1: quarterback is a disaster. And taking shots at your coaching staff,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no upside to.
Speaker 2: This team right now.
Speaker 1: In frank, like, I had him tied into one of
Speaker 1: those one of those teasers. The Jags and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: yesterday did a weird like twelve and a half in
Speaker 1: the six half. We also just laid all the points
Speaker 1: with the Bears.
Speaker 2: Denver minus one and a half at Chicago is my
Speaker 2: guess and my way off little bit Denver three and three,
Speaker 2: three and a half in the market, right now after
Speaker 2: every three and a hook, three to the hook, they
Speaker 2: give him three and a three hook of draft kings
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, listen, I think Chicago is terrible, but
Speaker 2: come on, Denver's three and a hook.
Speaker 1: I love that we're going to argue over this game
Speaker 1: because there is no way I could bet the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: There's betting the Denver Broncos in this game.
Speaker 2: If I had to, I'm not touching this. But for
Speaker 2: for that to be the line seems pretty commice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I hear you, hear Ria.
Speaker 1: What's next? All right? Up?
Speaker 2: Ravens at Brown. Oh, that's a great game to two
Speaker 2: and one teams in the in the AFC. North Ravens
Speaker 2: two and one now after they lose to Indianapolis Cleveland
Speaker 2: two and one after they beat Tennessee handily Baltimore. Seven
Speaker 2: starters were out in this game. First time they touched
Speaker 2: the ball though they went eighty yards lamar in from eight.
Speaker 2: They were up seven to nothing. That's a little more
Speaker 2: than midway through the first quarter. Ravens second possession, first
Speaker 2: intend at the Indianapolis forty six Lamar to Kenyon Drake,
Speaker 2: who they had just signed to the practice squad, and
Speaker 2: then called him up twenty four yard game, but Drake
Speaker 2: got the ball poked out by Julius Brientz, who recovered
Speaker 2: it as well. After a trade of Pont's Colts went
Speaker 2: seventy four yards minsheot zac Moss from seventeen down seven
Speaker 2: to seven, six oh seven left. Second quarter, first plan
Speaker 2: suing drive one fumbled again hit by Tavian Bryan Quinny
Speaker 2: Payne recovers. It leads to an Indianapolis thirty one yard
Speaker 2: field goal after substitution chess match between Harbaugh and Steiken
Speaker 2: ten to seven Colts that ends up being the halftime score.
Speaker 1: After a trade punt so ten to seven Colts, then
Speaker 1: Adam Matt.
Speaker 2: Gay fifty four yard field goal to go up thirteen
Speaker 2: to seven with a thirty three left in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: After another trade, u Ponts Ravens then take eighty one
Speaker 2: yards lamar in from ten out Baltimore fourteen thirteen thirteen
Speaker 2: seconds left in the third quarter. Gay then hits a
Speaker 2: fifty three yard field goal to make it sixteen to fourteen.
Speaker 2: Tucker answers with a fifty yard or seventeen to sixteen
Speaker 2: Baltimore seven thirty three left in the ball game. Colts
Speaker 2: then forced upon. Baltimore gets the ball with four to
Speaker 2: forty eight left, third and six at their own twenty five.
Speaker 2: Lamar about to get sacked by Ebu Kam and Zaire Franklin,
Speaker 2: somehow escapes gets the first but the next third down,
Speaker 2: third and five from their own forty nine, Jackson sacked
Speaker 2: by Franklin. Punt pins the Colts at their own two
Speaker 2: down seventeen to sixteen, two fourteen left, third and eleven
Speaker 2: at their own one two oh five left. Minshew steps
Speaker 2: on the boundary in the back of the end zone
Speaker 2: safety nineteen sixteen Baltimore two oh three left. Surely, the
Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna win this football game. Ravens three and out,
Speaker 2: though Colts start at their own thirty eight one forty
Speaker 2: one left, they matriculate. They get a gay fifty three
Speaker 2: yarder nineteen nineteen fifty seven seconds left, and then Tucker
Speaker 2: misses a sixty one yarder dead on but short. We're
Speaker 2: going overtime. Colts win the coin toss three and out.
Speaker 2: Devin Duverney returns the punt thirty one yards. The Ravens
Speaker 2: are set up in plus territory at the indy forty
Speaker 2: seven they're gonna win. Surely the Ravens are but a
Speaker 2: three and out, they have to punt. Colts take over
Speaker 2: seven minutes left in overtime. Min should have Pittman Junior
Speaker 2: for thirty four, But fourth and one at the Baltimore
Speaker 2: forty six, four point fifteen left, Zach Moss stuff for
Speaker 2: no gain. Baltimore takes over again fourth and three at
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis forty seven, three twenty five left. Surely they're
Speaker 2: going to win again. Oh Zey Flowers tackled before the
Speaker 2: ball gets to them. No call, You've gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 2: No flag thrown. Colts take over again three twenty one left,
Speaker 2: and this time Matt Gay, who's already hit from fifty
Speaker 2: three to fifty three and fifty four. A Moss thirteen
Speaker 2: yard run sets him up for a fifty three yard
Speaker 2: or good. Colts win twenty two to nineteen. A whole
Speaker 2: mess of survivor entries go out with that as well.
Speaker 2: Lamar finishes twenty two of thirty one for two toh two,
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no Picksie was sacked four times, fourteenth carries
Speaker 2: for one oh one two touchdowns, one fumble loss. The
Speaker 2: Colts were minus two and turnovers. How they lost I
Speaker 2: have no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that is a fascinating game. I mean, Ravens
Speaker 1: with so many injuries, so many injuries. When you talk
Speaker 1: about this side going into going into this next week.
Speaker 2: And then Cleveland beats Tennessee, they do. So it was
Speaker 2: a tight There were statistically dominating Tennessee at the half,
Speaker 2: yet they were only up ten thirteen to ten. H
Speaker 2: Tannehill had been sacked three times in the first half.
Speaker 2: Tennessee had only four first downs, Tennessee was only one
Speaker 2: of seven on third down, only sixty seven total yards
Speaker 2: in the first half. And then the Browns did score
Speaker 2: twice to blow it open twenty three to pardon me,
Speaker 2: final score twenty seven to three. I will say the
Speaker 2: Browns minus four and a half at home against Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Interesting grounds, two to two and a half basically everywhere
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, they opened like one and a half.
Speaker 1: Those who Cleveland have been taking one here. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one and a half scorning. So it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: been moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Cleveland d is epic.
Speaker 1: It is at best defense in the AFC.
Speaker 2: That might be a Cleveland play for me right there,
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Speaker 2: We get to right, we get so wrapped up in
Speaker 2: it we forget sometimes. Yeah, we'll get to Brandon Dale,
Speaker 2: We'll get to Josh McDaniels. But the beauty of this
Speaker 2: here segment is some teams haven't played yet, and some
Speaker 2: teams we've already talked about their games, so we can
Speaker 2: rapid fire through a bunch of these what's next Bengals,
Speaker 2: that Titans, Bengals, Bengals, the Titans. Of course, Bengals play
Speaker 2: tonight against the Rams and the second of the two
Speaker 2: games that I'm Monday Night football. So sight unseen on
Speaker 2: them and the Titans, as we just mentioned, in their
Speaker 2: loss to the Cleveland Browns, Tannehill thirteen of twenty five
Speaker 2: for one to oh four. That's it. No touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 2: He was sacked five times, three and a half went
Speaker 2: to Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett also forced to fumble. In
Speaker 2: that game. Derrick Henry eleven carries for twenty yards against
Speaker 2: the vaunted Browns defense, a twenty three to six first
Speaker 2: down disadvantage for the Titans. They were outgained three forty
Speaker 2: one to ninety four in total yards thirty eight twenty
Speaker 2: nine to twenty one, thirty one disadvantage in time of possession.
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: notice this, with four point fifty eight left in the game,
Speaker 2: down twenty four, fourth and fourth their own forty four,
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel just waved the white flag and punted like
Speaker 2: he was just like, we can't do anything. I will say,
Speaker 2: sight unseen on the Bengals. I'll assume Burrow comes back.
Speaker 2: I said, Bengals minus two and a half on the road,
Speaker 2: Titans one and a half, right now, wow, one and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: That'll come down to who's playing quarterback, right, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: We're talking about tonight, speculating. We're speculating about a week
Speaker 1: a week away. Next up, Rams at Colts, Early window.
Speaker 2: Rams at Colts, Rams don't play again until tonight against
Speaker 2: the Bengals Indianapolis. In that win against the Ravens, Minshew
Speaker 2: twenty seven to forty four for two twenty seven, one touchdown,
Speaker 2: no picks. He was sacked five times three by Kyle
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, Zach Moss thirty carries for one to twenty two.
Speaker 2: The Colts were plus two in turnovers that led to
Speaker 2: plus three net Colts points the margin of victory, and
Speaker 2: Matt Gabe becomes the first kicker in NFL history to
Speaker 2: make four field goals of fifty yards or longer in
Speaker 2: a game. How about that he was money. I'll say
Speaker 2: the Colts minus one and a half. Sight unseen on
Speaker 2: the Rams Colts won. Uh, I do see a pick
Speaker 2: them out there about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's mainly one though, okay. Next Next up Buccaneers at
Speaker 1: the Saints.
Speaker 2: All right, Buccaneers hosting the Eagles in the first of
Speaker 2: the two Monday night games. Sight unseen on them? New
Speaker 2: Orleans lost Derek Carry. Yesterday, Jamis had to come in
Speaker 2: car was thirteen of eighteen for one oh three in
Speaker 2: that loss to the Packers, one touchdown, no picks. He
Speaker 2: was sacked three times. Jamis ten for sixteen for one
Speaker 2: oh one. Kind of identical, no touchdowns, no picks. He
Speaker 2: was sacked once. Olave eight catches for one oh four,
Speaker 2: only two hundred and fifty two total yards for the Saints.
Speaker 2: They were four fourteen on third down again Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: Sight unseen. I'll say New Orleans minus one and a
Speaker 2: half split the difference between a pick him and the three.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I just got really excited because I didn't think about
Speaker 1: this game yesterday. Jamis Winston revenge game. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is great. Sign me up Saints three at DraftKings
Speaker 1: right now. Saints three.
Speaker 2: That seems aggressive of the three. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: It's yeah.
Speaker 1: It's painted three. For people that have it posted, it is.
Speaker 1: It is three everywhere?
Speaker 2: All right? All right? NFC East matchup Commanders at Eagles.
Speaker 2: All right, Eagles again, of course on the road at
Speaker 2: Tampa ban the first Monday night game tonight Washington. As
Speaker 2: I talked about, got crushed by the Bills, only got
Speaker 2: on the board with a Joey Slide field goal with
Speaker 2: fifty one seconds left. They got out gained by Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Washington did two twelve to one seventeen in the first half,
Speaker 2: eighteen thirty two to eleven thirty two disadvantage of time
Speaker 2: of possession. In the first half, they were minus two
Speaker 2: and turnovers. Howell ended up nineteen for twenty nine for
Speaker 2: one seventy no touchdowns, four picks. He was sacked nine times,
Speaker 2: Skelly nine times, nine times. Washington was one of nine
Speaker 2: on third down. They were out Game three eighty sixty
Speaker 2: two thirty. They were minus four and turnovers that led
Speaker 2: directly to a net plus seventeen Buffalo points. Philly sight unseen,
Speaker 2: Philly minus six maybe.
Speaker 1: Seven six, I said six seven, Okay, mag seven, looks
Speaker 1: like it come off the seven here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: Painted seven pretty much. Ev al right, let's go to
Speaker 1: another We're gonna keep it going going, all right.
Speaker 2: Vikings at Panthers in the early window. Vikings said, Panthers,
Speaker 2: Oh that's another zero to three clash. Come on, Panthers,
Speaker 2: keep losing, baby, I need you to Minnesota against the
Speaker 2: Chargers yesterday Kelly's the most on brand football game in
Speaker 2: the history of on brand football games. Minnesota third and
Speaker 2: eight at the Chargers twenty six, eight to forty one left,
Speaker 2: first quarter, scoreless game. Cousins to Hawkinson pass the sticks
Speaker 2: stripped by a low high Gilman. Chargers then go seventy
Speaker 2: nine yards with it Herbert and Donald Barham from three
Speaker 2: out seven to nothing, Chargers two fifty one left. First quarter.
Speaker 2: After the team's trade punts, Minnesota goes seventy five yards.
Speaker 2: Cousin said Jefferson for twenty one cousins of Jefferson for
Speaker 2: thirty four. The big plays Cousins said Josh Oliver from
Speaker 2: four out to knock things up at seven to seven.
Speaker 2: Seven to twenty seven left. Second quarter. Third play, ensuing drive,
Speaker 2: Herbert and Josh Joshua Palmer hit by Jordan Hicks fumbles.
Speaker 2: Hicks recovers first Chargers turnover of the season. How can
Speaker 2: you be zero to two and not have a turnover?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Vikings appear to get held to a field goal try,
Speaker 2: but Derwin James then flagged for unnecessary roughness on third
Speaker 2: and goal, which gives the Vikings a first in goal.
Speaker 2: Next play Madison appeared to fumble, but they called forward progress.
Speaker 2: Minnesota settles for Greg Joseph twenty three yard field goal,
Speaker 2: ten to seven Minnesota, two oh eight left in the
Speaker 2: second quarter. Already the game is starting to get tipsy.
Speaker 2: It's not drunk yet, but it's getting tipsy. Chargers then
Speaker 2: go seventy five yards all but three yards on Herbert
Speaker 2: passes Herbert to Parham from one out on fourth and goal.
Speaker 2: It's fourteen to ten Chargers. That would be the halftime score.
Speaker 2: Here's your halftime stat on Justin Herbert ready for this
Speaker 2: twenty six for thirty for one eighty seven, six point
Speaker 2: two yards per attempt, two touchdowns, no picks, was not sacked.
Speaker 2: He also had twelve yards rushing, which led the Chargers
Speaker 2: all right, fourteen to ten. Chargers. Third quarter air after
Speaker 2: a Vikings punt, mcmannus misses a fifty three yard field
Speaker 2: goal try for the Chargers. Fike's punt again then first
Speaker 2: and ten at the Minnesota forty nine with the Chargers
Speaker 2: for the Chargers with six oh one left in the
Speaker 2: third quarter, Herbert latter to Keenan Allen, who then throws
Speaker 2: it to Mike Williams touchdown. Twenty one to ten Chargers
Speaker 2: five point fifty two left in the third quarter, and Kelly,
Speaker 2: you're saying to yourself, the Chargers are gonna roll. This
Speaker 2: is gonna coast job, This is gonna be so easy,
Speaker 2: and then you remember, oh, I'm talking about the chargers
Speaker 2: that ain't happening. Vikings then have fourth and six at
Speaker 2: the Chargers thirty six three fourteen left in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: They go for it, Cousins to kJ Osmoorn takes it
Speaker 2: to the house twenty one seventeen Chargers three oh one left.
Speaker 2: Third quarter, Chargers punt. Vikings matriculate eighty three yards Cousins
Speaker 2: of Jefferson for fifty two to the house twenty four
Speaker 2: to twenty one Minnesota eleven twenty left, and then the
Speaker 2: Chargers go seventy five yards Herbert to Joshua Palmer on
Speaker 2: the ricochet off the hands of Vikings cornerback A. Caleb
Speaker 2: Evans for thirty yards twenty eight twenty four Chargers eight
Speaker 2: oh five left. Oh boy, oh boy. Vikings then get
Speaker 2: it to first and goal at the Chargers three with
Speaker 2: four to twenty three left, down four. Here's the sequence,
Speaker 2: two yard game, one yard loss incomplete fourth and goal
Speaker 2: at the two. Incomplete, Chargers take back over still up
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty four at their own two with two
Speaker 2: fifty three left, then fourth and one at their own
Speaker 2: twenty four, up four one fifty one left. Brandon Staley says,
Speaker 2: we're going for it. We're gonna put this away. Kelly
Speaker 2: stuffed for no gain. You're throwing it all around the yard.
Speaker 2: Let's just throw Kelly up the middle stuffed. Will this
Speaker 2: be the first time in NFL history that head coach
Speaker 2: will be fired right on the spot before our very eyes? No,
Speaker 2: no firing. Vikings take over at the Chargers twenty four,
Speaker 2: one forty six left. First down pass goes off of
Speaker 2: Osborne's hands, had him for a potential score. Then, after
Speaker 2: a Charger's illegal use of the hands penalty, Vikings have
Speaker 2: it first and ten at the Chargers twenty with fifty
Speaker 2: five seconds left. They're only down four. Ends up fourth
Speaker 2: and five at the Chargers fifteen with forty one seconds left.
Speaker 2: Cousins to Hockinson pass the sticks first and goal at
Speaker 2: the six. There's thirty five seconds left in the game,
Speaker 2: no timeouts. The Vikings don't run a play for twenty
Speaker 2: three seconds, twelve seconds left on the clock KERK Cousins.
Speaker 2: They tried to quick snap him instead of spiking it,
Speaker 2: but the Vikings would say later that the home crowd
Speaker 2: noise worked against them and that Cousins couldn't hear the play,
Speaker 2: so ultimately Cousins just decided to run his own play.
Speaker 2: He gets picked off on a deflection in the end
Speaker 2: zone by Kenneth Murray. Junior ballgame, the most on brand
Speaker 2: football game in the history of football games. Someone forced
Speaker 2: to win mandatory. I guess it could have been a tie,
Speaker 2: but it didn't happen. Chargers are the team that wins it,
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty four. They go to one and
Speaker 2: two and the Vikings are zero to three. Start the Cousins.
Speaker 2: The Jets talk again. Yep. Cousins thirty two of fifty
Speaker 2: three to sixty seven, three touchdowns, one pick. He was
Speaker 2: sacked four times, Jefferson seven for one, forty nine out
Speaker 2: a touch Both teams had exactly four hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five total yards, which is so poetic, so poetic. Who
Speaker 2: are they playing again? Who are the Chargers playing or
Speaker 2: in Minnesota planking Vikings Panthers? Oh yeah, the Panthers. Panthers
Speaker 2: Panthers are zero and three. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: say about this game. It was a field goal fest
Speaker 2: for Carolina, excuse me, for the Seahawks. In the first half.
Speaker 2: Carolina had the one touchdown, so it was thirteen to
Speaker 2: twelve Carolina at the half. But then in the second half,
Speaker 2: after Seattle got a fifth field goal from Jason Myers
Speaker 2: to go up fifteen to thirteen, Pinero missed a fifty
Speaker 2: five yard and whenever you miss a long field goal
Speaker 2: like that, it's bad news. Seahawks went fifty five yards
Speaker 2: walker Kenneth Walker the third in from one. It was
Speaker 2: twenty two to thirteen Seattle. The Panthers did get it
Speaker 2: to twenty two to twenty a little later, but then
Speaker 2: with fourteen fifty five left in the ballgame, Seattle went
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards and six plays Walker in from seven,
Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty with eleven forty left. Then the Panthers,
Speaker 2: down nine, had to punt it on fourth and nineteen
Speaker 2: from their own forty six with eight thirteen left. I
Speaker 2: guess they had to punt it because it was nineteen
Speaker 2: yards to go. They got it back after Seahawks three
Speaker 2: and out five point fifty left but then it was
Speaker 2: a four and out for the Panthers. Fourth and seven
Speaker 2: at the Carolina thirty five four to fifty two left,
Speaker 2: Dalton was sacked by Jaron Reid on an absolute jail
Speaker 2: break shortfield. Seahawks scored again. That was it thirty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty at that point. Final score thirty seven to
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Seahawks get home, Seahawks betters, get the money.
Speaker 2: Minnesota at Carolina Battle of the Ohen threes. Come on, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: can you do this once?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 2: I said, Vikings by three on the road.
Speaker 1: Vikings three is pretty much when it opened, it's gone
Speaker 1: to three and a half.
Speaker 2: It's it's three and a half everywhere, three and a half,
Speaker 2: three and o' hook. I think that's right.
Speaker 1: I laid the three with the Vikings this morning.
Speaker 2: Oh you did? This is the game where you said
Speaker 2: you have multiple bets on the game I was talking about.
Speaker 2: I laid the three of the Vikings and I played
Speaker 2: the over in this game as well. I think we
Speaker 2: were right to be a little more scared of Andy
Speaker 2: Dalton than for Bryce Young Like I think that played
Speaker 2: out for sure. I'm much less scared going against Carolina
Speaker 2: when it's Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: This is the situation Night brought up last week, like,
Speaker 1: what do you do if you're the pant if the
Speaker 1: Panther's going for This.
Speaker 2: Is why we got crushed on the draft because we're
Speaker 2: so convinced CJ. Stroud is so much better than Bryce
Speaker 2: Young will be at the next level, and so far
Speaker 2: through three games, CJ. Stroud is corroborating all of that.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the Daly decision to put that in context.
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Speaker 2: Bidlin guessing lines for week number four, looking for value.
Speaker 2: Our first impression is often the best one, as it
Speaker 2: was last week. Sort of perfection on guessing lines last
Speaker 2: week with Detroit and Miami and Seattle. By the way,
Speaker 2: you know the betting splits up part that I love
Speaker 2: the best. Remember that like little period of like three
Speaker 2: days where instead of yelling splitting bets, you just you
Speaker 2: just you vomited anything that was on your mind. Aliens exist.
Speaker 2: That's right. That okay, So that Brandon Staley decision to
Speaker 2: go for it fourth and one up four in this
Speaker 2: game twenty eight to twenty four against the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: The Vikings had every opportunity to cash in on it
Speaker 2: afterwards and couldn't do it because they themselves are like
Speaker 2: the NFC version of the Chargers. You know, the crowd noise,
Speaker 2: Our home crowd noise prevented us from from running the
Speaker 2: proper play. They wasted twenty three seconds. It gets picked
Speaker 2: on a deflection and the Chargers end up winning the game,
Speaker 2: but that Brandon Staley decision to go for it fourth
Speaker 2: and one up four points with fourth and one at
Speaker 2: their own I want to get the details right again.
Speaker 1: Fourth and one.
Speaker 2: At their own twenty four yard line, one fifty one left,
Speaker 2: and Joshua Kelly was stuff for no gain. Again, the
Speaker 2: play call can be debated also, But Seth Walder our
Speaker 2: buddy over at ESPN, he said, the Chargers going forward
Speaker 2: on fourth and one at their own twenty four with
Speaker 2: one to fifty one left, actually what would have been
Speaker 2: an increase in probability going forward would have given them
Speaker 2: a win probability of eighty eight point nine percent, whereas
Speaker 2: punting would have only given them a would have only
Speaker 2: given them a win probability of eighty two point one percent.
Speaker 2: So he says, Brandon Staley made the correct decision. I
Speaker 2: happen to agree with him, but the consequence of not
Speaker 2: making it, I was like, this, dude's getting fired on this.
Speaker 1: We were Ben and I were on the air for
Speaker 1: Live Bed Sunday, and those things are so much tougher
Speaker 1: to process in the moment, right like where you're you're
Speaker 1: seeing him line up to go for it, and you're
Speaker 1: with the lead like we're on the air, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is he doing? And then you start to think
Speaker 1: about it a little bit more and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, the Chargers defense has.
Speaker 2: Been such trash. You get the yard, it's all games over.
Speaker 2: Like in other words, as much as you might, as
Speaker 2: much as you might in a moment, you know, just
Speaker 2: want to kill him for not going Actually was the
Speaker 2: proper thing to do. And here's the thing, not even
Speaker 2: close to what happened later in the day. Yeah, which
Speaker 2: we'll get to. What's the name it was.
Speaker 1: It took me three minutes though, for my brain to
Speaker 1: process the like, oh no, what is he doing? Oh wait, no,
Speaker 1: this is a good call.
Speaker 2: Oh wait. If he doesn't get this though, he might
Speaker 2: get fired on the spot. All right.
Speaker 1: It's the last early window game Steelers at Texas Beautiful.
Speaker 2: So this falls right into our lap, right after the
Speaker 2: Brand and Stanley conversation. Last early game. So Pittsburgh beats
Speaker 2: the Raiders. That was a pretty big gambling boon for
Speaker 2: anybody who's been in the Steelers last night. They win it
Speaker 2: twenty three to eighteen, outright winner as a dog in
Speaker 2: this game, I mean I could go through this. Raiders
Speaker 2: went up seven and nothing. Garoppolo to Davante. Davante Adams
Speaker 2: was unstoppable in this game. We'll get to that a
Speaker 2: little later. He's incredible. Next drive though, down seven and nothing,
Speaker 2: third and seven at their own twenty eight pick at
Speaker 2: perfect past the Calvin Austin the third in stride seventy
Speaker 2: two yard touchdown seven to seven, six twelve left.
Speaker 1: First quarter. Jalen Warren with the great Blitz pick up
Speaker 1: on that play.
Speaker 2: After a Vegas three and out first play for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: Marcus Peters drops a pick six. Steelers eventually punt now
Speaker 2: the second quarter. Raiders ball second and ten at Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: forty three to twelve to twenty seven left in the second
Speaker 2: quarter TI game, Jimmy G picked over the middle by
Speaker 2: Levi Wallace that leads to a Boswell forty three yardfield
Speaker 2: weal ten to seven Pittsburgh eight thirty three left. Second quarter.
Speaker 2: Another three and out for the Raiders, Boswell forty two
Speaker 2: yardfield goal, thirteen to seven. One to fifty six left
Speaker 2: second quarter, Raiders ball. Jimmy G sacked caught under t. J. Watt,
Speaker 2: limped off the field. He would return. Steelers content to
Speaker 2: get to halftime despite not getting the ball first. In
Speaker 2: the second half, they're up thirteen to seven. Third quarter
Speaker 2: Raiders three and out. Boswell fifty seven yard field goal.
Speaker 2: Is Chris Boswell like the most understated great kicker in
Speaker 2: the league, Like we never talk about him. He's just good,
Speaker 2: so great. Sixteen to seven, Pittsburgh nine twenty eight left
Speaker 2: of the third quarter. Then the Raiders second and ten
Speaker 2: at the Pittsburgh forty eight seven twenty five left or
Speaker 2: down nine. Jimmy G throws it up for grabs, picked
Speaker 2: by Patrick Peterson. Pittsburgh eighty one yard drive. This is
Speaker 2: where they extend the lead pickets of Friarmuth from thirteen out.
Speaker 2: Twenty three to seven Pittsburgh three point fifty six left,
Speaker 2: Raiders fourth and five at the Pittsburgh twenty. That was
Speaker 2: in the third quarter, by the way. Then in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, Raiders fourth and five at the Pittsburgh twenty two,
Speaker 2: thirteen to thirteen left. You're down twenty three to seven.
Speaker 2: You need two scores of eight. Jimmy G incomplete intended
Speaker 2: for Jacoby Myers. Pittsburgh three and out, though Raiders aided
Speaker 2: by a questionable roughing. The passer call on Minka Fitzpatrick
Speaker 2: that would have forced a fourth down very questionable. He
Speaker 2: hit the shoulder first. Three plays later, third and goal
Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh won garoppolo to DeVante twenty three to thirteen,
Speaker 2: two point conversion from the one after a PI Jimmy
Speaker 2: g to Michael Mayer twenty three to twenty three to five,
Speaker 2: five point forty one left Pittsburgh three and out, four
Speaker 2: thirty five left, so the Raiders get the ball at
Speaker 2: their own forty eight, down eight. They get to fourth
Speaker 2: and one at the Pittsburgh twenty five with three point
Speaker 2: fifteen left. Kelly and Josh McDaniels going forward on fourth
Speaker 2: and one, there's a snap in fraction, so it moves
Speaker 2: it back to fourth and six. You're down eight, there's
Speaker 2: three fifteen left. McDaniels inexplicably then lines his team up
Speaker 2: for a field goal, because Kelly, if you can cut
Speaker 2: a one score game to a one score game at
Speaker 2: that point, you are a nuts if you don't go
Speaker 2: for that opportunity. He then gets bailed out by a
Speaker 2: leverage call on the Steelers Yeah wow, and gets it
Speaker 2: to fourth and then, so the Raiders get the automatic
Speaker 2: first down.
Speaker 1: Then they get it to fourth and.
Speaker 2: Four at the Pittsburgh eight with two twenty five left,
Speaker 2: They're down eight. They have all three of their timeouts
Speaker 2: and the two minute warning left, and McDaniels still decides
Speaker 2: to kick a Carlson twenty six yard field goal to
Speaker 2: cut it to twenty three to eighteen. I was like,
Speaker 2: it was I couldn't even speak, like, is this real?
Speaker 2: No idea? Is this joke? Is this happening?
Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, your offense has been so good.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just know you're gonna get another chance
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: I mean, let me be fair. Let me go back
Speaker 2: to Seth Walder. Since we gave the you know, he
Speaker 2: said Brandon Staley made the right decision. Well what about
Speaker 2: this one? Noope, on this one, he says. Wrong, as
Speaker 2: we all knew instinctively, Raiders kicking field goal on fourth
Speaker 2: and fourth the Pittsburgh gate. If you go forth there,
Speaker 2: it's fifteen point eight percent chance to win. If you
Speaker 2: kick it, you've reduced your win probability to ten point
Speaker 2: two percent. That's a big air And on all people
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, that's only five percent. It's gotta
Speaker 2: be way more than that. According to Walder, a big
Speaker 2: air five percent is a huge error in the moka there,
Speaker 2: like if you drop it down. What is this from optastats?
Speaker 2: Since the two point conversion was adopted in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: the Raiders are the only NFL team to attempt a
Speaker 2: field goal in the last three minutes of the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: went down by exactly eight points with less than five
Speaker 2: yards to go for a first down or touchdown. It's incredible,
Speaker 2: it is. It's incredible. And of course what ensued, what
Speaker 2: happened after that, you could almost predict it, right, They've
Speaker 2: got their three timeouts to the two minute warning. They're
Speaker 2: only down, they're down five. Now, it's like, but you know,
Speaker 2: they don't stop the Steelers stealers get the first down.
Speaker 2: Not quite the ball game, but really the ball game
Speaker 2: is the Raiders got the ball back after a muff
Speaker 2: with twelve seconds left, back at their own fifteen and
Speaker 2: of course then Jimmy g promptly picked by Levi Wallace.
Speaker 2: So what Josh Daniels ultimately did there, let's distill it.
Speaker 2: He traded a fourth and four for a fourth and
Speaker 2: eighty five. That's what he did. That's exactly what he diak,
Speaker 2: but he did. Yeah, it's exactly what he did. Pick
Speaker 2: It ends up sixteen of twenty eight for two thirty five,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked once.
Speaker 2: These Steelers were plus three and turnovers that led directly
Speaker 2: to plus ten Pittsburgh net points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always got a love with you when you've
Speaker 1: got money online. Because I didn't involved in this game
Speaker 1: until it hit three and I was like, really, we're
Speaker 1: going three. I gotta I gotta take Steelers plus three.
Speaker 1: So you know you're doing the little math in your head, right,
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so we're gonna down eight, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go here. They gotta go for two and then
Speaker 1: I'm catching three. So where are we gonna be going
Speaker 1: to overtime?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh wait, they're kicking a field goal?
Speaker 1: Why are they kicked?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, go go take the field goal. That
Speaker 2: was That was one of those moments that I think
Speaker 2: the entire nation shared where I if they could track
Speaker 2: the spike in texts that happened at that moment where
Speaker 2: everyone was saying like any variation of is he for real? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is he crazy? Is this a joke? Like it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Who are they playing, Pittsburg? Who are they playing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: The Steelers at Texans at the Texans. The Texans are
Speaker 2: one and two. Texans, get off the schneid. Good for Demico,
Speaker 2: Ryans and the Texans for beating the Jaguars survivor carnage. Aside,
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud twenty of thirty for two eighty two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no picks. He was not say he's the first quarterback
Speaker 2: in NFL history to have at least nine hundred passing yards,
Speaker 2: four past touchdowns and zero picks in his first three
Speaker 2: career stats starts. Rather, according to ESPN Stats and Information,
Speaker 2: Dell five for on touch receiving, Houston was plus two
Speaker 2: and turnovers that led to plus six net Texans points
Speaker 2: in that game against Jacksonville. I will say Pittsburgh will
Speaker 2: be favored in their first game of the year by
Speaker 2: three at Houston right out draft Kings it is three
Speaker 2: and a half. Everywhere else?
Speaker 1: Who is three?
Speaker 2: Though? Okay, yeah, that seems about right. That would seem
Speaker 2: like a not a hard one to make. Okay, how
Speaker 2: many games we have left here? One, two, three, four, five?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all right, we'll get to five more games?
Speaker 1: So far? What do you like best Vikings? But that's it.
Speaker 1: I played the Viting I haven't played. I've bet up
Speaker 1: all all year, Gil, Come on, I've held out for
Speaker 1: three weeks.
Speaker 2: Finally gotta get it on of the vikings this week,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Vikings, Browns and Jaguars, Vikings, Browns and Jaguars.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chicago three and a half is ridiculous, but
Speaker 2: I'm not running bet that. I like the jag sidn too.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna end up with a bet.
Speaker 1: On it or not.
Speaker 2: All right, five more games to get to guessing lines.
Speaker 2: Week four Numbers game Vsent the Sports Betting Network. We
Speaker 2: get tweets at beating the book Trenton Stan Hope, please
Speaker 2: explain to me how this isn't a Max bet. Oh
Speaker 2: he wants a Puka Nakua over five and a half
Speaker 2: receptions tonight. I like it. I do like it. Mills
Speaker 2: at win this, John, he says, curious, Why why aren't
Speaker 2: we seeing odds on brock Purty comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: He's three and zero nine months after being knocked out
Speaker 2: of the NFC Championship game. In six months since UCL
Speaker 2: repair Niners look like they win fourteen plus games. Isn't
Speaker 2: this the very definition of the award?
Speaker 1: Mills?
Speaker 2: I love you man with all due respect, but he
Speaker 2: was seven to zero in the regular season, and another
Speaker 2: guy almost died on the field. So yeah, you can't
Speaker 2: really consider a comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: A guy who got hurt in the playoffs that is
Speaker 1: not currently up a draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. Jeff Schwartz, what is the not that?
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz? Another Jeff Schwartz, this one with a J.
Speaker 2: What is the over under for a number of Plinko
Speaker 2: games in the NFL each weekend? I counted three this
Speaker 2: past week, New Orleans, Green Bay, Chargers, Minnesota, Indianapolis Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Seems low. We could still get one or two tonight though,
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, and indian Account Indianapolis Baltimore was
Speaker 2: such plinko. Yeah, all of that on Feby's Famato, he
Speaker 2: says me at the Dennis listening to Mike Greenberg and
Speaker 2: some ESPN. I'll say, guy, he used a different term
Speaker 2: guessing lines. Know your plays, he says. Matthew Mayberry Kamara
Speaker 2: will be back next week for the Saints. Might be
Speaker 2: why the number is bumped slightly. It's a good point. Yeah, yeap,
Speaker 2: good point. And this from Tony Farmer game, Tony Farmer,
Speaker 2: I agree, boss, I agree. Boswell has been underrated over
Speaker 2: the years, but he was pretty bad last season twenty
Speaker 2: for twenty eight. That good point. Michael Burns Staley probably
Speaker 2: made the right call by going, but he called the
Speaker 2: wrong play. They couldn't run the ball at all the
Speaker 2: whole game. Pass bass bass, my god. Yep, I mentioned
Speaker 2: that by high sell low. You know, after five minutes
Speaker 2: of trying to figure out what McDaniels was doing kicking
Speaker 2: the most wears field goal I've seen in years. The
Speaker 2: most underrated part was Collinsworth in Tarrico trying to explain
Speaker 2: it to the audience. They'd make it a few seconds
Speaker 2: into the explanation and then start trailing off because it
Speaker 2: didn't make any sense during any of the four times
Speaker 2: they tried classic classic NFL. It's so true, man, they
Speaker 2: were like Collinsworth was trying to figure it out. He's like,
Speaker 2: I would have gone for it. Here he was trying
Speaker 2: to be polite. I mean I would have gone for it. Yep.
Speaker 2: All right, what's next?
Speaker 1: Oh, those same Raiders Raiders at Chargers.
Speaker 2: Jimmy g was twenty eight to forty four and defeat
Speaker 2: three twenty four two touchdowns, three picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked four times.
Speaker 2: Davante thirteen for one seventy two two touchdowns on twenty targets.
Speaker 2: By the way, after the game, he was not happy.
Speaker 2: Not happy.
Speaker 1: How is like, how are there not multiple teams lining
Speaker 1: up to try to trade for him? Right?
Speaker 2: Like? He is so good, so good.
Speaker 1: It is hard to look that good at wide receiver
Speaker 1: when the rest of your team is this bad.
Speaker 2: He yeah, it was basically the tone, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say anything wrong here, but like I'm not here
Speaker 2: to be patient, you know. Basically it was the Raiders
Speaker 2: were minus three and turnovers that led directly to ten
Speaker 2: plus ten Pittsburgh net points the Chargers, who of course
Speaker 2: won that epic Chargers Vikings on brand duel. All three
Speaker 2: games this season decided by four points or fewer. So
Speaker 2: Chargers Herbert forty for forty seven for four h five
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, no picks, He sack ones. Keenan Allen, you
Speaker 2: think DeVante's numbers were good eighteen for two fifteen on
Speaker 2: twenty targets. Williams seven for one to twenty one in
Speaker 2: a touchdown. He also got hurt, and as I said,
Speaker 2: both teams, the Vikings and the Chargers, each had exactly
Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy five total yards. The Chargers, of course,
Speaker 2: twelve penalties for ninety four yards because you got to
Speaker 2: throw those in the mix when you're talking about the
Speaker 2: charge of course, Yeah, Raiders at Chargers. I put the
Speaker 2: Chargers in no man's land at minus five and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're close. It's believe four and a half still everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're about four and half almost everywhere. What if I've
Speaker 1: been the most awful that the Bears, I've been the
Speaker 1: most off on.
Speaker 2: It was the Jacks. Didn't you have the and a
Speaker 2: half or something on the Jacks?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think it was that the dude Mike
Speaker 1: Williams knee injury, Like this kills me. We talked about
Speaker 1: it so much preseason, but like, these guys can't have
Speaker 1: a season where both these wide receivers are healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest. What my exact thought was when
Speaker 2: Mike Williams got hurt, Like if I was a family
Speaker 2: member at that point, I would put my arm around
Speaker 2: him and I'd be like, maybe we shouldn't do this.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be getting tough. I mean for him, but
Speaker 1: I mean really both of them, him and Keenan Allen. Right,
Speaker 1: it's like every year one of the guys, if not
Speaker 1: both of them.
Speaker 2: It's incredible, all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on, we are in the late window now, four
Speaker 1: twenty five Eastern Patriots at Cowboys.
Speaker 2: The Raiders charges game was four five years. Oh, there's
Speaker 2: actually games we haven't gotten to. Patriots, the one and
Speaker 2: two Patriots they get off the schneid Dallas two and
Speaker 2: one they lose to the Cardinals. Patriots have now beaten
Speaker 2: the Jets fifteen times in a row. So there's that.
Speaker 2: The last Jets quarterback to beat the Patriots, and I
Speaker 2: guess it's Mark Sanchez Ryan Fitzpatrick. Twenty fifteen. Patriots were
Speaker 2: up three to nothing, Mac Jones to Faroh Brown in
Speaker 2: the second quarter, fifty eight yards, ten to nothing Patriots.
Speaker 2: To that point in the game, We're talking eleven forty
Speaker 2: nine left in the second quarter, the Jets had minus
Speaker 2: one total yards and one first down. In fact, say good,
Speaker 2: the Jets first five possessions, they had five punts and
Speaker 2: six yards. Is that better? That is an awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they traded punts.
Speaker 2: Zerline actually made a fifty two yard field goal to
Speaker 2: cut it to ten to three with just over a
Speaker 2: minute left in the second quarter. Ryland missed a fifty
Speaker 2: seven yarder at the end of the half, so the
Speaker 2: Patriots are only up a score, and the halftime stats
Speaker 2: on Wilson four of ten for twenty nine. I'll do
Speaker 2: the math for you. That's two point nine yards per attempt,
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no Picksy was sacked twice. The Jets had
Speaker 2: three first downs at the half, they were one of
Speaker 2: eight on third down, and they had thirty nine total yards.
Speaker 2: They were out gained two sixteen to thirty nine in
Speaker 2: the first half, and the Patriots only led ten to three.
Speaker 1: And I had I'm back.
Speaker 2: In the Patriots. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 2: You cannot mess this up.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Third in the contest, and I had him in the contest.
Speaker 2: Chad Ryland kicked a fifty one yard field goal for
Speaker 2: New England put the Patriots up thirteen to three. Ten
Speaker 2: twenty left, and the third quarter teams traded punt three times.
Speaker 2: Then fourth quarter the Jets all of a sudden win
Speaker 2: eighty seven yards more yards and they had gained all
Speaker 2: game to that point, helped by a PI in the
Speaker 2: end zone Nick Bowden from one thirteen to ten Patriots,
Speaker 2: five twenty four left. It's only a three point game,
Speaker 2: and then the Pats are forced to punt. Jets are
Speaker 2: down three. They started their own ten with two forty
Speaker 2: four left. They can win this. They have all three timeouts.
Speaker 2: And then I remember ohed Zach Wilson never mind third
Speaker 2: and fifteen at their own five with two twenty seven left,
Speaker 2: Wilson sacked in the end zone by Matthew John Safety,
Speaker 2: fifteen to ten Patriots. Oh, surely they're gonna coast here.
Speaker 2: Put the Patriots three and out again because the Jets
Speaker 2: defense is awesome. Jeff gets the Jets get the ball
Speaker 2: back with one forty three left at their own forty
Speaker 2: five great field position fifty five yards. They're gonna win this.
Speaker 2: Uh No, incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, and then the dreaded fourth
Speaker 2: and ten two yard completion way to go Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: New England takes over one to nineteen left. Jets have
Speaker 2: two timeouts left. They do get the ball back with
Speaker 2: sixteen seconds left. Wilson to Wilson for a deep play
Speaker 2: and the home clock operator stops the clock with the
Speaker 2: second left at their own forty six after the spike,
Speaker 2: so they actually get a hail Mary chance as a result,
Speaker 2: Wilson to the goal line batted down off of Garrett
Speaker 2: Wilson's shoulder bad Randall Cobb actually gets a hand on
Speaker 2: it down towards the turf. But incomplete ballgame, New England
Speaker 2: fifteen to ten. They crushed them and only one by
Speaker 2: five and held on for dear life Jones fifteen of
Speaker 2: twenty nine for two oh one in the Patriots win,
Speaker 2: Dallas loses to the Cardinals. A lot of survivors out
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. So was the Jaguars the most, followed
Speaker 2: by the Ravens, followed by the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah in circa right, every other Yeah, that Cowboys one
Speaker 1: was way more, way more.
Speaker 2: That's correct, That's exactly right. Cowboys trailed three to nothing.
Speaker 2: Then Arizona went seventy eight yards, ending in a James
Speaker 2: Connor five yard touchdown run. It was nine to nothing.
Speaker 2: Arizona two point attempt failed after Dallas offside on the
Speaker 2: pat nine to three. Arizona Cards went seventy five yards.
Speaker 2: Ron Dale Moore with a forty five yard scamper. It
Speaker 2: was fifteen to three Arizona two point conversion fails again
Speaker 2: Dobbs intended for Marquise Brown, So the Cowboys woke up
Speaker 2: at that point. Seventy five yard drive Dak to Rico
Speaker 2: Dowdle out of Southkkilaki. You remember WeGo down le at
Speaker 2: South Carolina, Sure, sure you do. From fifteen out, fifteen
Speaker 2: to ten Arizona five point thirty two left, Prader from
Speaker 2: forty three eighteen to ten Arizona one twenty eight left
Speaker 2: in the second quarter, Cowboys went and then Prader from
Speaker 2: sixty two His career long was sixty four a decade
Speaker 2: ago in Denver in elevation sixty two twenty one ten
Speaker 2: Arizona at the half, longest field goal of the NFL season,
Speaker 2: And then the second half, Brandon Aubrey hit a twenty
Speaker 2: seven yard to cut of twenty one to thirteen, and
Speaker 2: then you know, Dallas matriculated. They got a fourth and
Speaker 2: three at the Arizona four down eight three h three
Speaker 2: left in the third quarter, they decided to go for it.
Speaker 2: Incomplete pass Dak intended for cd Lamb. It was twenty
Speaker 2: one to thirteen into the fourth quarter. Cowboys had the
Speaker 2: ball again at their own thirty six to start a drive.
Speaker 2: They get to the dreaded first and goal from the ten. Stymied,
Speaker 2: had to settle for an Aubrey twenty six yard field goal.
Speaker 2: It's twenty one to sixteen Arizona, nine to twenty eight left.
Speaker 2: But then the Cards first intended their own twenty four.
Speaker 2: You know what, they learned something from last week when
Speaker 2: they squandered the twenty one point lead to the Giants.
Speaker 2: They kept their foot on the pedal. First play on
Speaker 2: the ensuing drive Dobbs to Michael Wilson for sixty nine,
Speaker 2: three plays later to marquise from two out. Twenty eight
Speaker 2: to sixteen Arizona, our more survivors getting knocked out. I
Speaker 2: put it, yes, Dallas takes forever, By the way, that
Speaker 2: was also weird. Dallas took forever to matriculate the ball
Speaker 2: down the field, down twelve. They end up third and
Speaker 2: goal at the six with three zero five left. Dak
Speaker 2: picked by Kazira White in the end zone. That's it. Ballgame,
Speaker 2: twenty eight to sixteen Arizona DAK twenty five or forty
Speaker 2: for two to forty nine, one touchdown, one pick. You
Speaker 2: sacked twice Pollard twenty three for one to twenty two.
Speaker 2: I will say New England and Dallas Dallas by five
Speaker 2: and a half. I'm big on the No man's land. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is Dallas seven painted Dallas seven. Everywhere.
Speaker 2: Looks like it could come off the cheap sevens out there,
Speaker 2: come off down to the six PA. Yeah, it looks
Speaker 2: like it could come my way. Wow, the full seven
Speaker 2: of interesting. Okay, two more games, three more games the
Speaker 2: other two three and three Yeah, three including the primetime games.
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Speaker 2: five season long bets in the NFL. Giants alt season
Speaker 2: win total under six and a half plus one eighty five,
Speaker 2: off to a good start, Commanders alt high season win
Speaker 2: totals over seven and a half plus one ninety I
Speaker 2: mean off to a good start banked wins. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't expect it at this point, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: All they gotta do is get to eight. That's a
Speaker 2: tough tea. That's a tough one. You got rocked yesterday.
Speaker 1: But two and one.
Speaker 2: Last team to record first win Panthers fifteen to one, Baby,
Speaker 2: come on. Matt Lafleur, coach of the year plus fifteen
Speaker 2: sixty one. So far, so good. Two and one Packers
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus, first NFL head coach fired plus fifteen nineteen.
Speaker 2: Looking pretty good, looking pretty good? Hi, the Panthers never
Speaker 2: flew slack. I think I'm looking pretty good on most
Speaker 2: of them now. On the other hand, everything I say
Speaker 2: in baseball goes to absolute crapola as soon as I
Speaker 2: say it. We'll get into that tomorrow because we have
Speaker 2: more air lines to guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sunday four to twenty five, Eastern Cardinals at Niners.
Speaker 2: Cardinals at Niners, that's a that's a that's an afternoon game. Still, Oh,
Speaker 2: Cardinals at Niners. Well, if you're not in circa, this
Speaker 2: is the obvious uh survivor play I guess of the week.
Speaker 2: But in circle we can't use this. By the way,
Speaker 2: just thinking about all these games we went through, I
Speaker 2: don't see one slam dunk survivor play good God, Arizona's
Speaker 2: we just talked about. Beats the Cowboys. Dobbs Josh Dobbs
Speaker 2: seventeen for twenty one nine, one touchdown, No Pixie was
Speaker 2: sacked twice, six carries for fifty five yards, James Connor
Speaker 2: fourteen carries for ninety eight yards, and the touchdowns. As
Speaker 2: I said earlier, the Cardinals not only could be three
Speaker 2: and oh, perhaps they should be three and zero. Handed
Speaker 2: that game to Washington in week one, squandered the twenty
Speaker 2: one point lead against the Giants in Week two and
Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys. That was the thing about that win
Speaker 2: over the Cowboys. It wasn't like the It was a
Speaker 2: turnover fest. Usually when a team wins a game and
Speaker 2: upsets another team like that, it's based on turnovers. The
Speaker 2: Cardinals just stared him in the face, punched him in
Speaker 2: the mouth, whatever whatever metaphor you want to use. And
Speaker 2: San Francisco extra rest coming off their win on Thursday
Speaker 2: night over the Giants.
Speaker 1: But I thought what you said earlier was pigd too.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals team they got up in like last week.
Speaker 1: They didn't just settle and let let this thing get
Speaker 1: away from him. The yeah, yeah, they kept their foot down.
Speaker 2: I put it between ten and fourteen, I said, San
Speaker 2: Francisco minus twelve and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Niners. Fourteen is fourteen, Yeah, fourteen at
Speaker 1: Draft King, it's fourteen everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Arizona season win total was what three and a
Speaker 2: half before that game and a half? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Chiefs at Jets. Sunday Night Football Chiefs at Jets,
Speaker 2: the two and one Chiefs the one and two Jets.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and victory yesterday against the Bears, twenty four
Speaker 2: of thirty three for two seventy two, three touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 2: He was not sad before he was taken out of
Speaker 2: the game, Blaine Gabbard ended up three of five for
Speaker 2: thirty one and two picks. Uh. Kelsey seven catches for
Speaker 2: sixty nine yards and a touchdown. How great were the
Speaker 2: announcers who was doing that? Was that Iron Eagle or
Speaker 2: was it somebody else.
Speaker 1: Got the wrong games on the air?
Speaker 2: They were like, it wasn't Iron Eagle, it was whoever.
Speaker 2: The color guy was like Taylor Swift is uh, friends
Speaker 2: with the Kelsey family. They didn't know how to phrase it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: friends with the Kelsey family. Yeah, that's it. We don't
Speaker 2: have enough time to talking about it now.
Speaker 1: But if we are talking like date two day three,
Speaker 1: sitting with your bomb up in the skybox, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a.
Speaker 2: Move pretty serious. Held Chicago to eleven first downs the
Speaker 2: Chiefs did. They outgained him four fifty six to two
Speaker 2: oh three, more points versus Chicago for the Chiefs than
Speaker 2: the Chiefs had scored in their first two games combined
Speaker 2: this year. And then the Jets remember before the season
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers, I said, you look at that those
Speaker 2: first six games. If they if they got a three
Speaker 2: and three, they would take it right now, I said,
Speaker 2: if he gave them true serum and then I said
Speaker 2: when he went down into was Wilson, I was like,
Speaker 2: they'll take the two and four. Well, right now they're
Speaker 2: one and two. They're halfway there. Zach Wilson was eighteen
Speaker 2: of thirty six for one fifty seven in that game,
Speaker 2: four point four yards per attempt, no touchdowns, no pixie
Speaker 2: was stacked three times. As we just documented going through
Speaker 2: that Jets game earlier, those stats look better than his
Speaker 2: actual performance. The Jets ended up with twelve first downs
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy one total yards. They were out
Speaker 2: gaining three fifty eight to one seventy one. They only
Speaker 2: had thirty eight rushing yards, and afterwards, star wide receiver
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson upset during a sideline conversation with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: an offensive cordated Nathaniel Hackett. He hinted that he's not
Speaker 2: getting the ball enough, but when asked if the Jets
Speaker 2: will change quarterbacks, coach Robert Salas said he's sticking with Wilson, saying, quote, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's fine, that's.
Speaker 1: The quote Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2: Garret Wilson did it again this week. Then he goes,
Speaker 2: He's who gives us the best chance to win. That's
Speaker 2: basically the cleanest answer I can give you. Oho oh,
Speaker 2: And we found out that like Matt Ryan and Carson
Speaker 2: Wentz each called the Jets to get on the team,
Speaker 2: and they were like, yeah, we're good. Poor Carson Wentz,
Speaker 2: he was like, gonna be an MVP, right, rehappens?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Then they win the Super Bowl without him, they win
Speaker 2: the SUPERROWL without him, and then he's just horrible after that.
Speaker 2: It's just so awful. Kansas City minus seven on the
Speaker 2: road or is it more?
Speaker 1: I said seven? I think the look ahead was seven.
Speaker 1: It is nine now Chiefs and a half.
Speaker 2: It's hard to go two ham against the Jets because
Speaker 2: that defense is so good, so you can't like make
Speaker 2: it crazy full nine. Huh. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I'm not really a seven point teaser guy,
Speaker 1: but man, that would that would fit that?
Speaker 2: Okay? I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're trusting much of the I
Speaker 1: mean they can't do anything offense. I hear you on
Speaker 1: the defense, yeah, but yet no, they can't do anything offensively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that one's tough, all right. Monday Night Football Seahawks
Speaker 1: at Giants, Seahawks at Giants Seahawks.
Speaker 2: We talked about beat the Panthers GINO twenty three for
Speaker 2: thirty six for two ninety six, one touchdown, one pick,
Speaker 2: sack twice. Kenneth Walker the third Pete Carroll said he
Speaker 2: likes to run the football, likes to establish the run.
Speaker 2: He said, eighteen for ninety seven for Walker, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: three catches for fifty nine and then dk Metcalf six
Speaker 2: catches for one to twelve. They'll go to the Giants.
Speaker 2: The Giants extra rest after getting beat by the Niners
Speaker 2: on Thursday. I will say Seahawks by three on the road,
Speaker 2: Giants one and a half.
Speaker 1: At DraftKings, Giants won pretty much everywhere else. I see
Speaker 1: one pick them out there. This number coming your.
Speaker 2: Way, though. We have DraftKings line at Seahawks minus one
Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, it flipped and it flipped to
Speaker 2: the Giants, flipped to the Giants. Oh my goodness, gracious, yeah,
Speaker 2: I am down. You know how I feel about the Giants.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's an interesting line. Giants by one and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, So this open but looks like one and
Speaker 1: a half two most places for Seattle. So alright, show
Speaker 1: a couple questions, we moved three points in the Giants direction.
Speaker 2: I don't understand here. So Parls and I were throwing
Speaker 2: this around yesterday. Oh, John Gooulay tells us it was
Speaker 2: Burke Harden Olson doing that game with the Chiefs yesterday.
Speaker 2: So it was Greg Olsen who was like friends with
Speaker 2: the with the Kelsey family. So if Pearls and I
Speaker 2: were throwing this round because Parl's tasted me yesterday, He's like,
Speaker 2: and he was like, let's rate the horrible performances of
Speaker 2: teams yesterday, like because his point was I guess he
Speaker 2: was trying to make himself feel better about the Jets
Speaker 2: or whatever. He's like, if you go through the games yesterday,
Speaker 2: the Jets weren't even a bottom five performance, he said.
Speaker 2: And I go, okay, is this.
Speaker 1: What Jets fan hoods? This is what Jets did well?
Speaker 2: I said to him, I go, okay, it depends what
Speaker 2: you mean by worst performance, because the Cowboys and the Jags,
Speaker 2: based on expectations, were awful performances, right, but they were
Speaker 2: actually somewhat competent football teams even in defeat. But like,
Speaker 2: if you throw those teams out, then the Jets are
Speaker 2: absolutely bottom five because it goes between the Commodes, the Bears,
Speaker 2: the Broncos, the Titans, the Jets, and the Falcons, like
Speaker 2: there are some almost a quarter of the league was
Speaker 2: just horrible.
Speaker 1: We're just talking about yesterday, just yesterday, just talking about,
Speaker 1: with all apologies to every other team on there, the
Speaker 1: Broncos did get seventy dropped on them, right, Like, I know,
Speaker 1: we know this team, we think this team is bang.
Speaker 2: The Bears are like, hold my bar, but seventy, yes, seventy,
Speaker 2: But the Bears are the Bears are the worst of
Speaker 2: the worst because they just took Mahomes out like they
Speaker 2: could have scored. They could have named their score too.
Speaker 2: The thing with the Broncos again I'll get to is
Speaker 2: like again Sean Payton, just like maybe trying to figure
Speaker 2: out a way to milk clock. I mean that was
Speaker 2: the Dolphins offense is a track meet. I mean it
Speaker 2: was seventy and it could have been more. Could have
Speaker 2: easily have been more. There were eight minutes left of
Speaker 2: the game, right, Yeah, it's tough to choose. The point
Speaker 2: of that conversation is there were so many bad performances
Speaker 2: in the league yesterday. So in the end are my
Speaker 2: first impressions again last week we were sort of perfect
Speaker 2: on first impressions. This week, I would I would say
Speaker 2: the Jags are my first Russian. What were the others?
Speaker 1: Already forgot some of the others we mentioned earlier, Jaggs.
Speaker 2: Jaggs, that was the one you were the most off of. Well,
Speaker 2: that was one I was most off on. But again,
Speaker 2: I'm not running to bet the Bears, even though that
Speaker 2: line was different, because they're the Bears Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm surprised that that's as low as it is Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you're surprised about that because anti Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: and you were very pro Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that defense against Baltimore's offense, like I could
Speaker 2: see them pitching quite the shutout.
Speaker 1: Baltimore still dealing with a ton of injuries, and that
Speaker 1: Cleveland defense is so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that. That Seahawks Giants thing is curious
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, I'm with I mean, if anything, I'd only
Speaker 1: be interested in Seattle. So I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: running to better now, not running bet Ye that's moved
Speaker 1: three points and survivor.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Am I gonna have to play
Speaker 2: the chart.
Speaker 1: Oh God, God, glad I don't have to make a
Speaker 1: decision on this.
Speaker 2: Sweet Jesus, I think I'm gonna have to play the
Speaker 2: Chargers and one of them at least. Am I gonna
Speaker 2: have to play Pittsburgh. Can't play San Francisco at Circa. Oh,
Speaker 2: we have a week to decide.