1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: I I am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Raivalry, No, no, sibling. 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good, 5 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: So Oliver Mother's Day, let's just talk a little bit 6 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: about this, because I had your kids for Mother's Day. 7 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: I know I was, I had, I had, I had 8 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: COVID testing issues trying to leave a country. I know 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: you you went with your wife to have a little 10 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: getaway to Cabo and you were supposed to be home 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: for Mother's Day of the day before and had a 12 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: COVID testing issue. Yes, because you have to get tested 13 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: in time to then show it to the airport, which 14 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: eventually we left on set on Sunday, and it was crazy. 15 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: But I didn't get at the test done in time, 16 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: which means I had to call Kate, can you take 17 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: my kids like for Mother's Day? But I had the 18 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: kids and it was so much fun and we had 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: a really nice Mother's Day, and you know what, you 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: know what's so great. I have this video of all 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: of them. I'll send it to you, and Danny sort 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: of set this really sweet Mother's Day picnic with a 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: table and chairs, but there were only like four chairs 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: and all the adults were sitting around, and then there 25 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: was a picnic area with all these pillows everywhere, and 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the kids were all sitting on the picnic thing like 27 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: totally engaged in each other, talking, so happy, totally content, 28 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: didn't need any of us on Mother's Day, And no, 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I know. And I was like, Oh, that's as a mother, 30 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: that couldn't be the greatest gift in this moment, because 31 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: that means we're doing everything right as mothers. They're so 32 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: happy together, they're content, they are connected, they love each other, 33 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: they know each other so well, Like that is what 34 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: you want. Our job as mothers is to raise hopefully good, 35 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: great children that are but happy and close to their family, 36 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: that they that we have a unit. Well, I got 37 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: about to say that we're so lucky. We're so lucky though, 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: that we all live seven and a half minutes from 39 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: each other. Mom Me, you, Pa Wyatt, Boston. Everyone is 40 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: right here, and it's we're so lucky to have that. 41 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, you kind of take it for granted a 42 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: little bit because it's just what it is. But when 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: you sort of stop and think about it as very fortunate. 44 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: There are days that I love somewhere out of here, 45 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: but I know it's in everybody's best interest. I long, 46 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: I long from my Provence house. Right, You're like, just 47 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: give me a twenty mile radius. I'll be fine. I wish, 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: I wish I was a ten hour plane ride away 49 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: from everybody, but hey, you know, it just is what 50 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: it is. No, No, I'm kidding, I really do, I 51 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: really do. It is it's those moments that make you 52 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: do realize that those little moments where you think, like, oh, 53 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: maybe I would go East Coast, or maybe I would 54 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: move somewhere somewhere else that you know, I don't know, 55 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: would you, I mean, could you do it? Could you 56 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: do it? Could you actually move out of LA and 57 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: just sort of get away and be gone from LA 58 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: with with you know, the kids and you were just 59 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: gone gone. The fantasy's there for me too, But could 60 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: you pull the trigger and actually be somewhere else, live 61 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: five thousand miles away? Like, you're definitely more settled into 62 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: your life as a woman, as a mother, you know, 63 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: much more so than ten years ago when you were 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: flying everywhere, and you were you were everywhere. Now you've 65 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: got it feels like you've got roots, more roots than 66 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: I like our roots. But I think that that I 67 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: have faith that I could create them anywhere. Right, So, like, 68 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the only thing is is that I don't like the 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: idea of being away from all of you guys. Right, 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: So the answer is yes, Like if if the time, 71 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: like if it came to that time and we got older, 72 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: the kids are older, you know, I don't know if 73 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: LA will be where I'll settle, yeah, forever, you know, 74 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: I think I'll probably want to be other places, but 75 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: with the kids and where we are now, and like 76 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: what this feels like. It's like I couldn't imagine moving 77 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: just based on the circumstance. If everyone was like, should 78 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: we all move to Colorado? Like should we all move 79 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: to Austin, Texas, I'd be like, great, let's yeah, I'm down. 80 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: I'm down. If we're all doing it, let's call let's 81 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: do it. Let's call a family meeting. Let's call a 82 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: family meeting and say, look, this is a meeting about 83 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: where we all want to live. We're doing it. So 84 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't want anyone any pushback. It's about throwing hats 85 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: in the ring. Where do we all want to move? Well, 86 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: it would have to be Colorado because no one would 87 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: want to go anywhere else. I guess so, but it's 88 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: too small. I need like a city, you know, I 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: need like action, not that I do anything in La 90 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: I know. I'm like I say that. I say that, 91 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: but then people are like, hey, you want to go 92 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: to dinner. I'm like, eh, no, like good night, I 93 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: go to dinner. They're like you want to come out? 94 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: And like it took Danny I like scared at each 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: other for like two minutes, like do we go out? 96 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I do know? And then finally he was like yes. 97 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: I was like yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Now I'm 98 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: right with you. But she's talked about okay, this was 99 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: another thing, but this is on the on an episode 100 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: that we have coming out about memory. But when she 101 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: talked about the social aspects of memory, how important it is, 102 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: that that's a great thing for our memory, you know, 103 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, like of course, because you're 104 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: out and you're connecting and your present you know, I 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know. No, it was so it's so true and 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: it's almost like what has this pandemic done to memory. 107 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: It's just so monotonous, you know, it depends there's nothing 108 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: to yeah, just generally there's nothing to like, there's nothing 109 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: to like burst, there's no bursts. It's just sort of like, oh, 110 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: like every day. You know. What was a great memory 111 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I have from the pandemic was when I started the 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: anxiety started to sort of you know drop where I 113 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel as much fear, but I still had intense anxiety. 114 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: But it was like I needed to get I needed 115 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to do something to like feel a little bit normal again. 116 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: And and it was right when d Nice had his 117 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: did his the first time. Everyone started listening to it, 118 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: and I got a drink. I hadn't been drinking at 119 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: all because I was so scared to drink because I 120 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: wanted my immune system to be strong. Finally, I was like, 121 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna have a King Street Martini. I'm 122 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a King Street dirty King, and I am 123 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I am gonna dance. And I went into my room, 124 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: my dance room, and I just like turned on his 125 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: thing and I just literally danced by myself. I'll never 126 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully that's memory is I mean, it's how 127 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: I remember it exactly. But I'll never forget that, Like 128 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: that was a burst during that time, and it was 129 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: so simple and so fun and and it says something 130 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I think about the nature of who someone is, Like 131 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: what's your actual nature? What do you do on your 132 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: own to create a sense of like joy or optimism 133 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: or you know, like light at the end of the tunnel? 134 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: What are you actively doing to feel good? Yeah, I 135 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: don't know, it's interest. Sometimes it's a good question because 136 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it also takes energy to get up off your 137 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: ass to create ate that for yourself, you know, because 138 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: you can get complacent in trying to be happy. It's like, ah, 139 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: it's almost easier just to fucking sit here. Well, it's 140 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: like they say, you know, we were living sort of 141 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: indirectly what it is to be depressed or living in 142 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: low level depression. You don't really want to get out 143 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: of bed, or you're not really getting out of the 144 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: house much. You're kind of not putting on clothes, You're 145 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: maybe not showering as much as you normally do. You're 146 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: not you know, doing as much self care. You're drinking 147 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit too much. You're doing the things 148 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: that you know, you're sitting on your sofa watching too 149 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: much brainless television. It's kind of like, indirectly that is 150 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: what we were sort of being forced to do, you know. 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: And then it was so fun because you realize there 152 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: are all these people out there who were being creative 153 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: inside of their walls. So some people were like, yeah, 154 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: they were had a ton of see to go into 155 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: this sort of that thing. And then some were like, 156 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, in their closets like playing dress up and 157 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: like posting all these insane pictures of themselves looking amazing, 158 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: like total artists, being imaginative, or you know, dance parties 159 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: in the house or you know. It was really interesting. 160 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I know there were a lot of memories created. Yeah, 161 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: but this is the email episode. Everyone loves the email episodes. 162 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: We love doing the email episodes, and for this particular one, 163 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: I think we kept the crying to a real minimum. 164 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: If I remember correctly that I could cut it all 165 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: out too. I think it was well, well here, you 166 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: know what chances are it's a yes, yes, but but 167 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: we love hearing from you all. Please, you know, keep 168 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: writing in. We can't wait to figure out where we're 169 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: actually actively trying to look at this right now. We 170 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: want to be able to do some live shows at 171 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: some point, So keep writing in, tell us where you are, 172 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: what part of the country you're in or the world, 173 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: And that's right, We're coming at you. Live will be great. 174 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: It's a whole variety show, song and dance. I mean, 175 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: this thing is gonna fly. Yeah. Oliver's demanding a serious 176 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: styling team, so oh yeah, the outfits will be off 177 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the charts. But but you have never seen sequence like 178 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: all of it. 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Go Okay, Hi, Oliver and Kate. 248 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle and the youngest of three sisters. I just 249 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: started listening to your podcast two months ago. For some reason, 250 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: I thought you needed an Apple product to listen to podcasts. 251 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea why I thought that, but glad 252 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm able to get caught up on all of your 253 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: episodes ha ha. First, I want to thank you both 254 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: for doing this podcast. It educates me on so many 255 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: different topics I would have never thought to have listened 256 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: to and introduces me to so many people I would 257 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: have never known. Just recently, my sisters and I were 258 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: all in our thirties, did a sister's staycation and I 259 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: had them do the question you guys always ask every 260 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: sibling you interview. It was so nice to hear what 261 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: my sisters thought were good qualities of myself they would 262 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: like to have, and it was so sweet to hear 263 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: what they would alleviate for me. We weren't always super close. 264 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: My middle sister and I are just a year apart, 265 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: and we're always told we looked like twins. My oldest 266 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: sister is four and a half years older, so she 267 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: was just way too cool for us. It took her 268 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: going to college to get closer, but it wasn't until 269 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: I think we were all over twenty one to really 270 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: be the best of friends. And it was just at 271 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: the beginning of quarantine that I realized I was so 272 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: grateful for my sisters. My oldest sister and I both 273 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: had babies right in the beginning of COVID, and my 274 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: middle sister is in the service industry, so we all 275 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: got to spend so much quality time together. If you 276 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: both ever want to interview three regular sisters, we'd love 277 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: to thank you again. Danielle, Oh, it didn't make me cry, 278 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: It made me happy. I know, you know about this, Jesse, 279 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I took. Here's what I took from this, you know, 280 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: and you and I sort of fall into this category. 281 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: You're not as far as siblings go. It's not like 282 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: love at first sight. You know, it doesn't mean that 283 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: just the minute everyone comes out of the womb, you 284 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: are just connected in love and you're going to spend 285 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: the rest of your life like that. Sometimes it takes 286 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: a minute, right, you know, it takes a while. And 287 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: for you and I, it took a certain period of 288 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: time before we really connected and yeah, became close, you know, 289 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: And it sounds similar to these girls. You know, it 290 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: takes a minute, so give be patient. Well, I think 291 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: you see some siblings that like from the beginning they're 292 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: just so connected and like do everything together and then 293 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: some don't. And you know, as you know, when you 294 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: have multiple kids, they are all so different. I mean 295 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: it's not like you come out definitely liking each other, 296 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: like you're going to be really different personalities, and then 297 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: you add environmental factors into the equation and things can 298 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: get you watch did you watch the Billie Eilish document? No, okay, 299 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: so I watched it, and we'll talk about it once 300 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: you see it. But you know that brother sister relationship 301 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: is extremely tight. And I couldn't help the whole time 302 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: picturing you and I and how weird it would be 303 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: if you if we acted and we're as close as 304 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: they were. I mean, she's like lying in his lap, 305 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: and I mean it's they're so close and it's really beautiful. 306 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh my god, I could never do 307 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: that with you. Yeah, but it's like the do plases, 308 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: they're like lying in each other's laps too, I mean, 309 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, you know, sometimes there's a cosmic connection. 310 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It could be a friend, it could 311 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: be a parent, it could be a sibling that is 312 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: like so crazy connected that it's almost like you have 313 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: to do the opposite, which is like, Okay, we need 314 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: to go do our own things. You know. Let me 315 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: ask you a question. Do you think that if we 316 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: came from a perfectly stable upbringing and dad and mom 317 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: were still together and it was beautiful, and that our 318 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: relationship for sure would be different? You know? Probably? Yeah, 319 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: So that's an interesting Yeah, you wouldn't be so envious 320 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: of my life. You wouldn't see me and see that, 321 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, possibly you wouldn't. You wouldn't be judging yourself 322 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: so harshly. You know. Security, it's it's safety and attachment. 323 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you have really solid attachment 324 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: as a child, you just have a very different relationship 325 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to connection period, you know. And I see it in 326 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: my friends, Like there's a couple of friends that I 327 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: have that I'm like, they're so secure in their relationship 328 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: and their friendships. There's there's such a security and you 329 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: realize like, oh, they have that in their family life completely. 330 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: But when you look at sisters, like just what they're saying, 331 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a lot of people have that. 332 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: They grow up, they have their own friends, they have 333 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: their own situations and and uh. And then you get 334 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: older and you just connect differently. I love when siblings 335 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: we said this, that we were going to do this, 336 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: when siblings make the effort to be together alone, right 337 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: like they went and they did a staycation with all 338 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: the sisters. I remember when we went and did that, 339 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: and we were like, we need to make an effort 340 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: to just do stuff with us. And it didn't get 341 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: past that conversation, no, we need Oh my god, I 342 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: remember that. It was me why and Boston, We're like, 343 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: you know what, we need to do a weekly or 344 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: at least a bi weekly siblings dinner dinner, and and 345 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: it's it's we, that's the that's the excuse everything. And 346 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: then COVID, Well, all the boys were here, you know 347 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: for those listening, all the boys were here last night. 348 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: I had my my nephews, my sister's kids, and then 349 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: my kids. It was fun, it was really fun. Were 350 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: so cute. It's just it's really interesting watching them navigate 351 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: each other. Now, you know where riders the oldest, you 352 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: got wilder body and Bing. You know, there was a 353 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: couple of them. Want to watch a horror movie? Bing 354 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: can't watch horror movies. He's too scared. Body wants to 355 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: watch the horror movie, but is sensitive to being not 356 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: being included. So then he goes with Bing into one 357 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: room and they're watching sort of anime, you know, and 358 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: it's this, it's this constant debate back and forth. I'm 359 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: in my bed, just yelling at them from my bed. 360 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm too lazy to get up. I'm like, guys, figure 361 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: this out. This is crazy. You can't exclude Bing. You 362 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: can't tell Body that he has to go watch anime, 363 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, watch a movie everyone can watch. And whether 364 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: they hear me or not, I don't know because I'm 365 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: not getting out of my bed. I just love how 366 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: close they all are. It's almost like sometimes I say 367 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: to Rider, I'm like, dude, you should go out with 368 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: your friends, you know, like I know your cousin you love, 369 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: and I love it, but like you need to also 370 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: have relationships with other people. Yeah, all of them. I mean, 371 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: I know, you know, being too. It's like he would 372 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: rather be with his cousins than anybody. Oh yeah, yeah, 373 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's awesome though I agree with you, 374 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: but it is it is cool how close that they are. 375 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: A Rider man, he's the best. He's he's really good. 376 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: He's doing such a good boy. Just having real conversations 377 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: with him now because you know, he's almost eighteen, he's 378 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: going to be eighteen soon. So I'm having manly, candid 379 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: conversations with him just as a friend in a way. 380 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: You know, it's fun. Okay, Danielle. First off, thank you 381 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: for not making me cry. Second, I wish I had 382 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: sisters that wanted to have stay cares with me. Thank 383 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: God I have girlfriends that feel like sisters. And three, 384 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: I love that you guys are so close and it's 385 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: everything that I don't know. It's everything. It's just everything. 386 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: So and now you've inspired me and Oliver to call 387 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: our other brothers and be like, dude, we need to 388 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: have this sibling dinner. We should. Yeah, we should try 389 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: to get that back on the books. All right, I'll 390 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: you go next. Okay, I've been listening to your podcast 391 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: for a while just because I'm a fan of you 392 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: both and your parents. This past Christmas, a friend of 393 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: mine got me the twenty three and meter a DNA 394 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: test as a gift. I'm adopted from Paraguay. I don't 395 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: know any medical family history, and I mentioned that I 396 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: wanted to learn more if possible, I take the test, 397 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: and when my results come in, I find out I 398 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: have a half sister in Alabama. Wow, I live in 399 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: New York. I messaged her and we find out we 400 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: were both adopted in the eighties and have similar stories. 401 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: Holy shit, Can I get the rights to this because 402 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: it would be a great TV show. I grew up 403 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: being an only child. I begged my adoptive mom for 404 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: a sister for years, and now I finally have one. 405 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: My sister, Maria and I have been chatting and are 406 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: hoping to meet in person once the pandemic calms down. 407 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: One silver lining of COVID is that now my family 408 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: has grown. I can't wait to meet my sister and 409 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: her children in person. I also gained a new niece 410 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: and a nephew. Best present ever goes to my friend Liz, 411 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: who gave me that twenty three in me test. I 412 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: don't know if I ever would have gotten around to 413 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: getting it for myself. Keep doing what you're doing, and 414 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: now I can proudly say I have a sibling too 415 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: light and love Gladys. Oh my god, that's the best. 416 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome. That is so crazy. I love twenty three 417 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: and me. I love it. It's like I know, you know, 418 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: I was saying, we have like there. I don't know 419 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: what this says about our DNA, but it's like, you 420 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: have fifteen hundred relatives? Do I get a little like 421 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: notifications on my phone like we found a new cousin. 422 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, delete. We're really a busy family. 423 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Clearly we're a family that likes to have a lot 424 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: of kids. No, but that is so amazing. A half sister, 425 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, that's a big one. That's not like 426 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: a seven hundredth cousin removed, you know what I mean, Like, 427 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: oh wow. And the fact that they were both adopted 428 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: in the eighties, I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, that's really 429 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: I wonder what the story is of their birth parents. 430 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we get them on the podcast. Well this is 431 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: the kind of thing. Wouldn't it be amazing if we 432 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: could actually make that happen mm hmm, you know, make 433 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: them you know, for them to come together. It would 434 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: be so amazing. But honestly, this glad is that I 435 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: love hearing this And what an amazing amazing, like you said, 436 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: the best present from Liz. I mean, how incredible to 437 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: find out that you have a sibling, and you know, 438 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: just to know that you share DNA with someone or 439 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: a similar story. I mean, you know, I think a 440 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: lot of times there's again I wouldn't I wouldn't know, 441 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: but you some some people who've been adopted have no 442 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: desire to really find out, you know, where they come from. 443 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: And some, I think, feel very there's like a piece 444 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: of them missing a little bit, you know, that feels 445 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: like what where did I come from? You know? And 446 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: and so to like not only have that kind of 447 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: where did I come from, but know that you share 448 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: that story with someone else is incredible. It really is. 449 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, once it saw passes not past, 450 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: but once you know, well hopefully it all passes COVID. 451 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: But then they get to finally meet. I know, what 452 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: are what are reunion? Awesome? Okay, all right, Oliver, I'm 453 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: very excited about this partnership because I'm in love. Oh 454 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: my god. Finally, here's what I love about Bowl and 455 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Branch number one. These sheets are awesome. They feel awesome. 456 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm all about a great bed, you know, like putting 457 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: a great bed together, the mattress, the sheets, the pillows, 458 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the comforter. 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The Clutes Sibling episode in 489 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: December was my gateway drug, followed by the Day Chanelles. 490 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: After that, you too quickly bypassed all the murder, medical, royal, family, 491 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: socio political podcasts that were previously in my queue, and 492 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you. You brightened up 493 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: not only my podcast rotation, but my spirit. I am 494 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: an obgyn living and working in the great state of 495 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I have a seventeen month old son, a 496 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: rescue dog, and a husband who hangs the moon all crying. Yes, 497 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry too. I think I'm fucking emotional mess 498 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: sidebar lean off much slower than I did. I just 499 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: love that phrase, Like a husband who hangs the moon. 500 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: I am lucky, Like that's just you are lucky. That 501 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: is that's amazing. But around this time, a year ago, 502 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I cried in the car on my way to and 503 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: from work every day. I soon realized that most of 504 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: my colleagues were doing the same. We were all scared. 505 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: We were trying so hard to be brave for ourselves, 506 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: our patients, and our families, and it was beyond please. 507 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: I still don't have the right words to describe last spring. 508 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: As the year wore on, things got better, and then 509 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: they got a little worse, and then they kind of 510 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: stabilized to what is now our new normal. And along 511 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: the way I found you, guys, and I finally stopped 512 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: crying in the car and started laughing out loud and staid, here, 513 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: you know what, Kristin, I'm gonna cry for you. Your 514 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: candor and curiosity and care for other stories is a gift. 515 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: It has made not only my commute but my weary 516 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: heart a little lighter. Here's to send your days ahead, Kristen, Oh, Kristen, 517 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: here is to sen your days ahead. I am with 518 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: you on that. I love this so much, Thank you, 519 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: thank you. And again I always say, you know, you 520 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: know you guys in the center of all of this 521 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: who work in as doctors, nurses in hospitals. I mean, 522 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine, like you said, not having 523 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the right words, I can't. I just can't imagine what 524 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: what you must have gone through, and the how scary 525 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: we must have just been terrible and I and and 526 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: a blessing that we're sort of starting to understand it 527 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: and come out the other side. But it doesn't take 528 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: away from the fact that we've lost so many people 529 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: and that that that's just what the what this has 530 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: been this you know, we've lived through a pandemic. We're 531 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: living through a pandemic. It's so crazy. It's almost like 532 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: when you really stop to think about it, it's like 533 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like, Wow, it's so crazy, you know, Yeah, 534 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: I know. And the human condition is so interesting because 535 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: we adjust immediately like we like a survival you know, 536 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: and yeah, there there are those that don't survive and 537 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: it's just so terrible. But it's like what for Reid 538 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, the human condition is incredibly resilient 539 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: and powerful. When we interviewed him. I loved that interview member. 540 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I mean this is this is 541 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: the new normal. It's the These are the things that 542 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: remind us that we are, you know, fragile. There is 543 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: a fragility to our existence, and but also a resiliency. 544 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: We're a resilient is shit, that's crazy. We we are survivors. 545 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: That's that's you know anyway, Kristen surviv You're a survivor. 546 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: We're a survivor. Everyone's a survivor. I can't believe you can't. 547 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: That was the song that you pulled out of your 548 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: I love it go on all right, Dear Kate and Oliver, 549 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: I have fallen in love with your podcast. I just 550 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: started listening a couple of months ago and have binged 551 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: all of the episodes. Like many of your writings, I 552 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: love the banter, the realness and empathy and vulnerability you 553 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: both have, and I can honestly say I have never 554 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: enjoyed ads so much in my life. All Right, my 555 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: family thinks I'm losing my mind when I start laughing 556 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: out loud to something you have said. With my headphones on. 557 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: You've been able to touch on so many issues with 558 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: siblings and family that are so relatable. I have a 559 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: sister that is five years younger than me. We grew 560 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: up pretty close. We are complete opposites. In the last 561 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: ten years we have really come together. She's my person. 562 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: I've always thought that a sibling was important for that reason. 563 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: If something happens in your family to you or your parents, 564 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: you have your person who can know what you feel 565 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: in those moments and has the same upbringing as you. 566 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: I know it always doesn't work out that way, but 567 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: I am lucky it has. I have two kids, a 568 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: boy who is ten and a girl who is three. 569 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: For my son, we conceive naturally without any problems. When 570 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: trying for a second, it wasn't so easy. A year 571 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: of trying got us sent to a specialist. Long story short, 572 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: it was me, So we started down the insanely emotional 573 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: and expensive road called IVF. After three years of no 574 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: success and pretty much out of options, my sister, not Mary, 575 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: but in a long term relationship and without kids, offered 576 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: to be our egg donor. This was something we had 577 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: thought was not an option due to expense, but if 578 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: you have a known donor, it costs significantly less. After 579 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: much thought, we accepted her gift. It was not an 580 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: easy process, and after another failed attempt, finally two years later, 581 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: had our very much wanted second child. My person had 582 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: given me the greatest gift I could ever imagine. She 583 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: gave me. I gotta get off this, LEXI, bro, it's 584 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: too much. I am an emotional person just generally, but 585 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: this is gnarly. Yeah, but these, this is this is 586 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: everything I know. But I'm such a beta male. Okay, yes, 587 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: you are a proud data. Okay, a proud beta. My 588 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: person had given me the greatest gift I could ever imagine. 589 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: She gave my son a person of his own. That 590 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: was my whole goal for going through everything. What I 591 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: did not expect was for this experience to bring my 592 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: sister and I closer than we already were. She went 593 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: beyond the sibling code. There's more to it emotionally than 594 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: either of us had expected or could have planned for. 595 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: I will never know how to repay her. We have 596 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: recently decided that we are not keeping our story a secret. 597 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: My daughter will know how amazing her aunt is. We 598 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: have told my son, and he basically chalks it up 599 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: to well, that's why she's so crazy. My sister and 600 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't always agree, we don't always understand why we 601 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: do certain things, and have completely different lives and goals. 602 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: But I never doubt when I need her, she will 603 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: always be there and she knows the same fuck and 604 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: she knows the same goes for her. An added plus, 605 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: my daughter is a mini oh ah a many of 606 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: my sister. Thank you for sharing your relationship with each 607 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: other every week and really confirming how important siblings can be. 608 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Love you both, marieh. What a great letter, what a 609 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: great story. Oh my god. And you know it's it's 610 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: so selfless, like I find that. You know, a lot 611 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: of people wouldn't do that because they think that it 612 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: would create more complication, and yet what it has done 613 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: is created more love and more more more connection, and 614 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: more life and more more interest to the story. The 615 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: sense of humor a family like the son the brother 616 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: she's so crazy because his aunt is so crazy, is 617 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: so great. You know it immediately makes you just love them. 618 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: I know. Well, I mean, you're right, you said it great, 619 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: like you that can it seems like that can cause 620 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: a lot of problems, but not in this case. You know, 621 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: there's an acceptance and it just has built built this 622 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: family bond to be just as close as it possibly 623 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: can be emotionally and literally, you know. I mean they're 624 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: connected physically, emotionally, all different ways. It's really amazing. It's 625 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: just crazy reading these emails and hearing these stories, and 626 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: everyone has a story, and it's everyone is a different story, 627 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: and some of them are crazy, but they're not. And 628 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: I just well, and you also wonder, you know, it's like, 629 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's two sides of this, right, because 630 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: we're living in a time when there's so much judgment 631 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: in these sound bites of social media and digital media 632 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: and all these platforms, and there's a lot of negative 633 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: infiltration into things, and you know, it's very surface and 634 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: it's about I don't know, really kind of silly things. 635 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: But at the core of everyone's life is a really intense, 636 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: deep story. It doesn't matter where you come from. Every 637 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: person has it's like your origin story, and out of 638 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: that comes all of these incredible Let me put it 639 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: this way, I personally believe that every single person has 640 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: more impact and more power than they ever could imagine 641 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: that when you walk into a convenience store and you're 642 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: met with someone who smiles at you, who asks you 643 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: how you're doing today, someone who's able to connect to you, 644 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: It could change your entire story in that one moment. 645 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: You never know where someone's coming from. How we relate 646 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: to people is how is our power. You can change 647 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: someone's whole outlook by smiling at them and giving them something, 648 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: taking them out of something that might have been really 649 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: a hard day, or might have been a moment that 650 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: might have honestly, you know, it's like I remember sitting 651 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: down at a bar one time and having this conversation 652 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: with a bartender. I was, you know, real young, twenty two, 653 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: and I was in a terrible place and this person 654 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: just completely like I'll never forget him. I was like, 655 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: what am I so sad about? Why am I carrying 656 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: this weight? This man literally by just connecting to me 657 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: and talking to me changed my whole outlook on something. 658 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: And that is the power we have as people. It's 659 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: the power we have as family to be able to 660 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: like connect, and if we do it with good intention, 661 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: I think we're the most We're so powerful. I don't 662 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: know why I'm talking about that, but no, it's true. 663 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: But it's also the platform giving a platform for people 664 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: who don't have that platform to tell their stories, so 665 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: they can, you know, affect change. They can reach people 666 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: who are in a similar situation who might hear that 667 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: story and feel better and you know, change the trajectory 668 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: of the way that their life goes. You know, it's 669 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: about that platform, the opportunity for people, for the masses, 670 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: for people to hear those stories. And that's what we 671 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: do on Sibling Revenue. Okay, here we go. Hi, Kate 672 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: and Allie spelled Olly, which is kind of I like love. 673 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: It is probably from England. In this email, I just 674 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: want to express how thankful I am for stumbling across 675 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: your podcast. I come from a small family, just my 676 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: parents and my younger sibling. However, over the years, my 677 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: sister and I have never been close, and in light 678 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, you'd think we would be closer. If anything, 679 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: it has brought us some sort of understanding to our relationship, 680 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: which is the most I could ever ask for. We 681 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: are completely different people, and although raised in the same house, 682 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: being the older sibling, we were raised very differently. I 683 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: don't ever blame my parents for that, because they did 684 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: the best they could with what they had. Although siblings 685 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: are blood. I truly believe you can have a soulmate. 686 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: My soul sister, Mallory has been the biggest light in 687 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: my life. She's been there for me through thick and thin. 688 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: For her, I am thankful we both listen to your 689 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: podcast and discuss who we are most like. I can 690 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: relate a lot more with Oliver, whereas she is very 691 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: much like you, Kate, so you can imagine how wild 692 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: our personalities are in this tiny town in Canada. Without her, 693 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: I would have never made it this far in the pandemic. 694 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: She gets me out active and enjoying life around me. 695 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: The biggest wake up call is that I wish I 696 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: could share her love with the world, and hard times 697 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: like this, the light she has shown me can't has 698 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: made me super thankful for everything I have and we'll 699 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: have in life. I love her like my sister. I 700 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: love her like my sister and don't know where I 701 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: would be without her in this place I call life. 702 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing her, and I'm closer, especially in 703 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: these trying times. You guys are awesome and keep going. Chantale, 704 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: oh Chantelle that I love that. I mean, You're right, 705 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, we choose our family too. I mean, I 706 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: say it all the time. You can't always make it work. 707 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that there's not people out there 708 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: that are open arms and your sisters and your brothers 709 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: and you know. I mean we've got aunts and uncles 710 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: that aren't aunts and uncles all of us, you know, 711 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: And our thanksgiving is not just our immediate family. We 712 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: have people, we bring in people, you know, families what 713 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: you make it and thank God, thank God for that. 714 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: But I love this, and I also really appreciate your 715 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: openness about I think a lot of times people close 716 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: that down. They kind of have a like are in 717 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: denial about the fact that they don't see life a 718 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: certain way. It's like they kind of they make it 719 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: like other people who see life as optimistic and full 720 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: of life as like seeing through rose colored lenses because 721 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: they carry the weight instead of looking at it like, 722 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: you know what, I need a little bit of that 723 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: and I am different, which also carries, by the way, 724 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot of strength and having that kind of juxtaposition 725 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: and a friendship can like really, I don't know, bring 726 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: bring yeah. And as far as the whole sibling thing goes, 727 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, with the sort of lack of connection them 728 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: being very different people. I guess the question is do 729 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: you have an obligation to be close with your sibling 730 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: or no? You know, I mean do you It's you 731 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: don't have to be. It's as long as there's an 732 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: acceptance there of like you are this and I am that, 733 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: and we're blood. But you know, that's just the way 734 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: it is. There's no obligation. I think there's I think 735 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: that people feel a pressure. Well, I don't know. I 736 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: would I would think that you would want to be close. 737 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that when you see people who 738 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: are close to their family, you do long to have 739 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: that kind of connection. I feel like there's a longing 740 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: to want that family connection because it is it really 741 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: is the people who know your life the best. And 742 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: when you've had the experience with someone you've literally shared 743 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: the same parents or maybe one parent, and you've had 744 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: the kind of like that history. To then not be 745 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: able to share it or not to get on the 746 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: same page must must be so hard. Let me finish 747 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. I forget what I'm sure 748 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: trying to say. My brain, this is terrible. Yeah, just 749 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: wrap it up, be did good? No, but I want 750 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: I do I want to. I wanted to, oh the 751 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: sibling thing. No yes no yeah nah man yeah man 752 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: now yeah man yeah no no no no no y 753 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: yea yea yeah. So it must just feel terrible. But 754 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: then I think it's a process to get through that 755 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: place where you then realize that you don't that you 756 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: can set the boundary, like we're talking about in one 757 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: of our episodes about how you know there you can 758 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: set boundaries, and you might have to set boundaries, and 759 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: there are situations where you are better off in your 760 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: life having other family and and creating you know, creating 761 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: your family and and letting go and letting go of 762 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: that unhealthy attachment, you know. So I think it's just 763 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, totally personal. Yeah, exactly circumstantial, yes, but uh anyway, 764 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: Chantelle Sean, thank you, and thank you for spelling my 765 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: name with a why. I'm glad we could. I don't 766 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: know that you guys want to actually talk about the 767 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: things that we're sharing on our on our podcast, because 768 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: I know I don't. I I never find a dull 769 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: moment in talking about relationships. I mean that's like everything. 770 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things we get to do, be creative, 771 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: and but at the center of what we actually do do, 772 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: which is storytelling, is human behavior and relationships, and so 773 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: we never get tired of talking about it. I never 774 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: get tired of listening to other people's stories. I think 775 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of what makes the world go around, is 776 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: how we relate to each other and what we get 777 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: from it, and how we heal from these things that 778 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: can be really challenging. So thank you Chantelle and Mallory 779 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: for being such a good friend. Oliver, Yes, I have 780 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: to go. I have to like me too. It's like chaotic. 781 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: I love you, I love I love you too, Alison, goodbye, 782 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: all right later. Skater Sibling Revelry is executive produced by 783 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison, President, editor 784 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark. 785 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: If you want to show us some love, rate the 786 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: show and leave us a review. The show is powered 787 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: by Simplecast