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Speaker 1: Who's the first person when you got to the league

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Speaker 1: to bust your direct straight to the point, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know what, I can honestly say, not one person

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Speaker 2: I actually really bust my ass. You know, I was

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Speaker 2: a if you know me, you know anything about me,

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Speaker 2: and you playing me tested this. Man, I'm a competitor, dude,

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Speaker 2: Like you ain't just sit there and go at me,

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Speaker 2: and I think, you go, I'm gonna sit there and

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Speaker 2: just take it. But but for the most part, though,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this. You know, I came in

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Speaker 2: ninety nine, and uh, we had so many talented players

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Speaker 2: in the league. They always tell you certain guys they

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Speaker 2: got these certain moves, you know. Reported so like one

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Speaker 2: of my early games was against Smitty Steve Smith. You know,

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Speaker 2: Smitty has a heavy He's like, don't go for me,

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Speaker 2: don't go he all he gets every young guy, every player,

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Speaker 2: some older guys still currently and at the time, you know,

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Speaker 2: he was still he was in his prime then.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, do not go for the got me

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Speaker 1: all us us got me, got me move.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was just like he was just

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Speaker 3: live on location. Shot town, shot town, shot town. We

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Speaker 3: in the building. I got the blackest one, and today

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Speaker 3: we got a special guest.

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Speaker 1: Did we take the red of green.

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Speaker 3: Pill, the mail all the fame? My dog shot Town,

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Speaker 3: Shot Town, stand up.

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Speaker 1: Stand up, Mookie Baylock.

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Speaker 2: Look like he got me in the hands man like dude,

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Speaker 2: like he might have had the best hands I've ever

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Speaker 2: seen thought throughout my whole career, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: played with some guys that have some great hands.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get Mookie love now because last time

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Speaker 3: we brought up Mookie, you had something to.

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Speaker 1: Say to me. I love Mookie.

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Speaker 3: Wait like that, dude, I know that said when I

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Speaker 3: was talking about.

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Speaker 4: First was bragging about dunking on Mookie Blaylock. And that's

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Speaker 4: that's not like a point for you.

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Speaker 3: Let me show you why it's not bragging. It's not bragging.

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Speaker 3: We were speaking specifically about the first person you dunked

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Speaker 3: on in the league. I can't, I can't it is

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Speaker 3: who it is. I can't make it somebody different if

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Speaker 3: it's somebody. But it was off the post now I

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Speaker 3: was down the lane.

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Speaker 1: Little to the.

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Speaker 4: Joy in your voice as you're saying it was like

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Speaker 4: that was an accomplishment or something.

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Speaker 3: First of all, first of all, look so look So,

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Speaker 3: first of all, since you want to talk noise, I

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Speaker 3: got the picture in my phone from when I dunked

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Speaker 3: on Sean Bradley. I dunk on seven six fools too.

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Speaker 3: What you're talking about? Okay?

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Speaker 4: And I called Zoe okay, you know what I do.

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Speaker 4: What I'm saying. We don't even got to speak. So

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Speaker 4: who's the first person you dumped on? Who's the first

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Speaker 4: body you remember?

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Speaker 1: Who? Who our body first? Because you got bodies?

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Speaker 2: Man, you know, I really don't know. That's a hell

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Speaker 2: of a question. Was like the first but you know what, man,

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Speaker 2: you know my first guy that they really just probably

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Speaker 2: just escalated above beyond me is why I don't know? Al,

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Speaker 2: that's my guy. You know, I ain't want to I ain't

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Speaker 2: want to put my man out there, but I got

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Speaker 2: Al and they boom, that's my guy, you know, A

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Speaker 2: hearing to that's my guy.

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Speaker 1: But like my brother, Yeah, that's my man. That was

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting because you sit back there and you

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Speaker 2: look at the relationships you build.

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Speaker 1: And he was one of the first guys I actually

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Speaker 2: On Hawaii dude, Like so yeah, y'all. I ain't get

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Speaker 2: a chance to experience that. So that was a camp

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Speaker 2: that they used to send all like big Man, small forwards, whatever,

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Speaker 2: remember a lot to get footwork with Kiki, and it

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Speaker 2: it's a story that it never really came out.

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Speaker 1: This is this is really good.

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Speaker 2: So we out there going through workouts and stuff happened

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Speaker 2: to blast, so you can school.

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Speaker 1: This was my first episode of school. You know.

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Speaker 2: We used to wilding out. So I'm really a poor guy.

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Speaker 1: I try to ride some of my friends who had

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Speaker 2: I never got a chance to do it. So let's

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Speaker 2: ain't the half part of the half party. I told

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Speaker 2: I'm hurting bad as hell. Guess what though, I still

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Speaker 2: finish the camp, don't don't everybody? I don't know because.

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Speaker 1: What was there? Crazy tow it up?

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Speaker 2: That damn thing cost me two hundred dollars up one

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars to rent or whatever. It costs me like

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Speaker 2: because it's just reminiscent on that, this whole little dunk

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Speaker 2: thing whatever.

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Speaker 1: But like that's the history.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes people don't know what happened behind the scenes before

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Speaker 2: you really stepped on the NBA court.

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Speaker 4: You went to Clarks High School. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome, but it's interesting because you know, I'm from

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Speaker 2: my early years because I ain't leave here until I

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Speaker 2: and I had that little sent down South and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I was still coming back here, going from Chicago

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Speaker 2: saying in Chicago. And then when I got to college though,

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Speaker 2: I was here every summer playing in the summer leagues.

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Speaker 2: So I had guys that was in the same circle

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Speaker 2: And so he actually one of the first guys actually

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Speaker 2: like when I say, made me more hungry than to

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Speaker 2: because being around him, I ain't gonna never forget this.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget this. I had a little Park Avenue

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I was going to I was driving from North Chicago,

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Speaker 2: Claire to play ball LaClaire.

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Speaker 1: They ain't in there now no more. They tore him down.

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Speaker 1: They ain't there now. I pull up.

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Speaker 2: You got Ferrari out there. You got a Porsche, you

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Speaker 2: got a Lamborghini, got bends. I'm like, oh shit, like

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Speaker 2: everybody in there. So I walk in the gym. You

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Speaker 2: know it's Twin, it's Juwan Howard, Michael Finley, Tim Hardaway.

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Speaker 1: They in there getting after it. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, from the suburbs, No Chicago,

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Speaker 2: and I went behind the ears and excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm hungry though going there work work, work.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's like, oh yeah, he ready work killed him, you

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Speaker 2: coming up with something, this is so crazy, you know

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Speaker 2: how you do it? So say to go shopping. So

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Speaker 2: I always had to tackle with him. So I'm round

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Speaker 2: re rotating location. So they go out and they lay

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Speaker 2: But like I was sitting him, like, damn, you really

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Speaker 1: So I was with him.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't to the point that I'm watching him spend

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Speaker 2: I didn't take the SAT by one point, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hilarious biased. This is my whole take on it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I looked at the pamphlet literally

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Speaker 3: just went through the whole thing, just you know, feeling

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Speaker 3: I remember, I me at the crib one day they

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Speaker 1: I'm never taking it again.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand me? As a sophomore passed that joint

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Speaker 3: Brother Rights, I was, you know, all boys want nothing

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Speaker 3: to do butt work? Yeah, man, I was like, never

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Speaker 3: taking that test again.

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Speaker 4: You went to Juco like you was motivated at JUCO. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean like to get you all like a big college,

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Speaker 2: I Vince was like the cohouse stuff. That was like

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Speaker 2: one of the top junior college and the programs. Ever

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Speaker 2: So I visited two or three junior colleges though before

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Speaker 2: I decided because I know one of my friends at

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Speaker 2: Only person only small four that wasn't in my workout.

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Speaker 2: It was just yeah, I want I want Yellow come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was that was That was it. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I was like, he worried about you started saying, I'm

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Speaker 2: They left, they left with enough with with two chema

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00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 2: humps on them. Still they're still eating off of it

439
00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,080
Speaker 2: right now.

440
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,879
Speaker 1: Phoenix warm Weather beautiful place.

441
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,879
Speaker 4: I love Phoenix, Like, oh you're around, it's nice and

442
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,840
Speaker 4: trying to make your marking thing.

443
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,640
Speaker 1: How was Phoenix for you? I mean, Phoenix was awesome.

444
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,480
Speaker 2: Man. I get there. I got backcar two thousand K,

445
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,920
Speaker 2: Penny Hardaway. Now come on, I got Cliff Robinson, Luke Longley,

446
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 2: Damn Marley, Toby Bailey on the team, Renny Livingston, I mean,

447
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 2: can I can keep going down? But like Tom Wuliata man,

448
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, I had man, I had some og Oliver Miller.

449
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,439
Speaker 1: I had some.

450
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 2: I was only working on the team, man, I OG's

451
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: on the team, and like they didn't make it easy

452
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 2: for me, but they may be hungry though. One of

453
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: the best things I can tell you doing training camp,

454
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 2: you know, the rookie hayesen and stuff. So we in

455
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 2: flat stuff for training camp. You know, you know, yeah,

456
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 2: you're in a flag stuff. But it was a little

457
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 2: different when we were doing But like early in my career,

458
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 2: so like my first year at training camp club Uncle Cliff,

459
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 2: you know, this is exactly how I went down. He

460
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 2: was like, rook give me some what my fucking donuts

461
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 2: had something like that. I was like, look, clip, I

462
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 2: respect you and anything, but you're gonna talk to me

463
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 2: like I'm grown Ask me, I'm a grown ass man.

464
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 2: You ain't gona talk to me like that. Guess what, though,

465
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,360
Speaker 2: he says, ship to me. Thus the whole time, I.

466
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 1: Ain't no rookie in here nowhere, nobody said nothing to me.

467
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 1: So you got past that. Yeah? Nothing. I was like,

468
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna talk to me like that.

469
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't mind getting you some doughnuts, but you

470
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 2: ain't talk to me like I'm a grown ass man.

471
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 1: And then that was it. That's why, man, love it up.

472
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: You start off with Jakib, you play like me. I

473
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 4: love how your game is. A good point guard is

474
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 4: what you love? You know what I'm saying, to play

475
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 4: with a point guard like Jake Kid coming straight in

476
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 4: the door, like how was that?

477
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 1: You know?

478
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 2: Jake Kidd is one of the most what kind of

479
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: say men? He's the ultimate competitor, dude, Like he takes

480
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 2: the challenge. He sizes his people up and does things

481
00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 2: out there on the floor that you wouldn't think he

482
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: would do it at the point guard, you know, walking

483
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 2: triple double one of the things he told me though,

484
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: like early in my career, I always play hard, you know, fellow,

485
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: leave it on the floor. And also like you know,

486
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: if you get the ball, go don't wait for me.

487
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: He didn't want to have the ball the whole time.

488
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: He wants you to go out there and play to

489
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: your strengths and do your asset, you know what I'm saying,

490
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: and build you like a lot a lot of guys

491
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 2: I played with, he especially at that time around my career,

492
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,959
Speaker 2: like you know, He's one of those guys that can

493
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 2: come to you and be like, you know you, I

494
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 2: need you to do this for me. Step it up

495
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: a little bit, No, step up a little bit more

496
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: here and there or whatever, vice versa. Or I can

497
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: go to him and do that, you know. And now

498
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 2: it was the sluationship we had and me being so young,

499
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: like having all these veterans around me.

500
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 1: Man, dude, I'm just taking it in.

501
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: Man, I'm learning, you know, one of the things I did,

502
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 2: and I don't know why these young guys in his

503
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 2: news generations don't do it.

504
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: I want to.

505
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: Everybody house, I want all of them. I was like, man,

506
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: I want to learn how to be a pro dude. Like,

507
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: a lot of guys don't understand this. It's easy to

508
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: get to the NBA now, it's how easier it is

509
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: now than ever. It's way easy to get to the

510
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 2: NBA now. Now it's hard to be a pro. Th Like,

511
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: that's the thing. How do you learn how to be

512
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 2: a pro? You don't know how to be a pro?

513
00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Man? Like, it's a lot of guys in NBA players

514
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 1: ain't a lot of pros out there. It's different.

515
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 2: It's different mentality when it comes to that and different

516
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: focus and different you know what I'm saying, different dry

517
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: that's the part of the game that you know, I'm

518
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: in the fuel of me as much as I worked hard,

519
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: as much as we did all all the workouts on

520
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: the court and stuff. How hard are you working off

521
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: to make sure that you're doing the right things off

522
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: the court when you step out of there.

523
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

524
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you gotta be you know what I'm saying,

525
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 2: right like, but it's a line you follow when when

526
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: somebody when you got appearance, you make your parents sometime

527
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: when practice, we ain't got waight on. You don't be late,

528
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: be on time, you know what I'm saying. Don't make

529
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: it all about you. Don't make it. Don't make seem

530
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: like your time is more value than somebody else. You know,

531
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: when somebody texts, you call them back. You know what

532
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Be professional like little stuff like that. It

533
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: goes a long way. Some people get this mentality and

534
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: get this attitude that like, you know what I'm saying,

535
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 2: you're bigger and better than everybody. Not guess what, We

536
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 2: all put our pants on one leg at a time.

537
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Guess what. You know what I'm saying, go out to eat,

538
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to eat together, Let's get that all. That

539
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: was some of the things that we did that.

540
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like I really truly miss and I tried

541
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: to take it to everywhere I went.

542
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't always a successful.

543
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 3: On everything up about it because we're talking about all

544
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: the time, like when we you know, we came in

545
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: with the Clippers and we was legit like a family.

546
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 3: I was all young, everybody running around, everybody together all

547
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: the time, were.

548
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: All young and stuff.

549
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: So then like you say, my first see my first

550
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: trip up out of that was to Phoenix, and I was,

551
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 3: you know me, I was trying to do the same thing,

552
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: you know. And then Tricks was like that too. He

553
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 3: was just naturally like that. But you know me, as

554
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: soon as I get there, I'm like, man, we got

555
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: what's up? We got I got this at the crib.

556
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: We're gonna come through. Everybody come through his uncle Barbacue

557
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 3: at the crib, everybody coming through brou Before you knew it.

558
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: We was out the blocks.

559
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you know, like that unit we had though,

560
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I missed it though, like we go

561
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: to his house for a cookout and Joe MoMA you know,

562
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: rest of peace, miss doan you know, you know, and

563
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: uh like in us, like all our it became like

564
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: a we you know, every team have a core you

565
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: guys and hang more than it's just not just not

566
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: getting the whole group but us three. Like the stuff

567
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: we did though, it was like to protect it was

568
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: like crazy, like I mean, our families immediately niched to

569
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: each other and love each other, so even us having

570
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: our bond here from the crib, but like it was

571
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: more when you got when you get the family locked

572
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: into it, man, it makes you feel so much better

573
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: and like it's a different kind of love and you

574
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: can't it's kind of hard to sit here and express it.

575
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: But it's like you really genuinely care and respecting love

576
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: guys man, like you used to have.

577
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: To.

578
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: That was the only teams I can never remember playing

579
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: on where we literally we legit had an open practice.

580
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I practice.

581
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: You know you've seen Phoenis practice facility before, so them

582
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 3: bleachers right there like our family, like our homeboys, everybody

583
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 3: used to come sit there eating McDonalds while we practicing what.

584
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: We was put a few places that had stands though.

585
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. This our environment was like

586
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: it was crazy. It's hard to even explain. But like

587
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: you said, once you go on other teams, you like,

588
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: this ain't happening everywhere.

589
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm.

590
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: Saying speaking of that team, that team when Q came

591
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: there that year for y'all. You know what I'm saying, y'all,

592
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: y'all got a three head monster, you and Marriste, you

593
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: got Q, you got the young Joe Johnson. That team

594
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: that year, y'all, y'all be this about thirty every chime

595
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: like fifty older one. Yeah, I was kicking everybody. I'm

596
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 4: talking about. It was like a track me. We're like, oh,

597
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: we gotta deal with this. Threes like shine running everywhere.

598
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, Like it's all like, speak about that year,

599
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: that year when Q was there and y'all had that

600
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: quick because that was the only year that y'all had

601
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: that specific five five. Yeah, and that was the year

602
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: y'all opposed to one. I mean, it was new to

603
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: the league. It was new to everybody, you know, it

604
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 4: was new to us. We all had to buy into it.

605
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: You know, I think I probably had to make the

606
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: biggest adjustment to anybody. I think I'm going from a

607
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: small forward to garden, the most dominant dominant position in

608
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: the league. You know, like that's where it was the

609
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: most dominant position in the league. So that was like

610
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: that was what made it work. Yeah, well I'm saying that.

611
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 4: At first, I wasn't okay what I was like, dude,

612
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm only six seven.

613
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: Think about this, remember this in the beginning that just

614
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm about to remind you this week. So when the

615
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: season first started, right as everything was going, were coming

616
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: in early, were working out, oop and pick up, all

617
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: we hooping, talking trash getting that is Steve talking. I'm

618
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: talking that talk. So it's like once we started getting

619
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: the training camp and stuff, it's like, who's gonna start?

620
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm over there, you know me.

621
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: You know me, I ain't coming off nobody.

622
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

623
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: Did it not get like they started to looking at

624
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: it like, well, who is gonna start? Because you know

625
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: it was it's like okay, you know there's certain people

626
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: like how we gonna do this? It's like this is

627
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: clear the five players it's the best players, but it's

628
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: like they don't that I don't even have to go now.

629
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: So the first game, Jake Voskul was set to start,

630
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: Remember I was pissed. Whatever happened, Jake got in faujoble

631
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: something early quick. I went in, we took off, I

632
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: started the second half, and the rest was history.

633
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rest was history. Yeah.

634
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: Five was like that was the thing, and used the

635
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: mismatch and to guard them powerful like you say at

636
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: the time, all those dangerous position in the west coast to.

637
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: The well, that's that's what I'm saying, though, like you people,

638
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: really look at the game for what it is right

639
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: now and look go back to them when that was

640
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: the we actually had big exact skilled and big and

641
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: strong and actually had a presence inside like.

642
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: The sixteen yeah everything, yeah, sud So.

643
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: And then then back then our centers weren't skilled as

644
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: the power force. They were just big robots, you know

645
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But I'm not not taking away from nobody,

646
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: but like they were, I mean typically, but the powerful

647
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: was the main spot, typically the horse. So with that

648
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: being said, though, think about that. Look, look I'm six

649
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: seventy five thirty pounds. I'm on the guard six six.

650
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: Seventy to eighty, like they got me about forty fifty pounds.

651
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing the whole game, not for no one minute,

652
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: thirty seconds, the whole game. I just said this the

653
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: other day a couple of weeks ago, we was in

654
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: the studio. Kuran was talking about dirt and talking about

655
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: how tough he is and this, that and the third.

656
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, I don't remember nobody really locking

657
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: him up one on one the way Tricks did in

658
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Bro, we don't win that series of tricks, don't.

659
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about sitting on it boy, because he game

660
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: win of me one game.

661
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Really. I got a call him.

662
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: I said, like he's seven foot Yeah, I ain't got

663
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: talking about like this. I'm like, when I'm telling you,

664
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: like what our team people. You know, Mario averaged the

665
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: most point, Steve obviously won MVP.

666
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: And we were like the other guys or whatever, But

667
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: it was like.

668
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: Our team was more like a real whole team, though

669
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: some of us was what made us who we were.

670
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: And like he said, to a man, he probably had

671
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: to sacrifice more than anybody because he had to do

672
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: more to play that four and to go out there

673
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: and be a double double machine bro and then be

674
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: on the other end Like that was what really Like,

675
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 3: people like, how y'all you know what I'm saying, Remember, like, man,

676
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: what y'all do?

677
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: What y'all just running?

678
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: We like like nah, like really you just look at

679
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: our team. It's a cheat code to begin with, you

680
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like this, man, him and Stat

681
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: at the four and the five is a cheat code.

682
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: That's and I'm talking about they like both ro like

683
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: you could you could truthfully.

684
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: Say him and Stat were faster than me and Joe.

685
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Man for real, real, but what I'm.

686
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: Saying like, yeah, faster than me and Joe, and they

687
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: had the fours and fires to have to keep up

688
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: with them with Steve flipping that thing up the court, so.

689
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, the wonderable every time. So that was a

690
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: crazy part.

691
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Look if you look at that, I was looking at

692
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: feeling that somebody was showing me breakdown.

693
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Whatever. So Mari never really took the ball.

694
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: It was either close tosta ground we getting at the net.

695
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: But he was His job was to run on in

696
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: the middle of the floor and everybody's fill the lanes

697
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: and then all time I was a trail guy, so

698
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: I got the trail three more than they were getting

699
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: the side three. I'll getting the trail three or yeah whatever,

700
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: so Mari was getting because he was. We basically did

701
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: afore our one end. That's exactly what it was. So

702
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: basically all spaced out on the on the on the

703
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: perimeter and am already just shouted screening, roll and rolled

704
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: the basket.

705
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Somebody sucked in, kicked that bitch out.

706
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: We swing swing three or swing three whatever, that's how

707
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: exactly three or Steve probe until he sees somebody to

708
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: somebody Steve.

709
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: Steve has run through the lane with the ball and

710
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: come out and yeah, and then the round and find

711
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: somebody like somebody he used to be crazy, but like

712
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: it was, like you said, that year that was the

713
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: only that was the year I went the first ever

714
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: West Western convers finals and all that that was the

715
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: one year. Well we I felt like as a team

716
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: we was rock stars, right.

717
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: We showed up like.

718
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: After like all right, in the beginning of the season,

719
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: we surprised ourselves looking.

720
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Around like like we were kicking people man by.

721
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Saying me And season came and we came off all

722
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: start with all this stuff.

723
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Man, we were showing up like rocks. Yeah, coming in

724
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: that joint like yeah, you're about to get thirty. Yeah,

725
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: we were dead.

726
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: See we were sweat like fourth quarter, come eight minutes ago.

727
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: We I pish. It's crazy, though, we don't all sick

728
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: about this.

729
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Here you're playing like we can be down fifteen points

730
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: last six minutes, last thing, we're going to thirty point

731
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: run in the game.

732
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the whole time.

733
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: The whole time we were getting our head at the time,

734
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: We'll be looking at each other like we s great, Yeah,

735
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: somebody about to hit one and then were about to

736
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: turn up like switch.

737
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: That's all came in flurries though, like he was like

738
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: the man, you're about to catch it.

739
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: Say.

740
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: I hate I hate when people say we didn't play defense.

741
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: Though we play defense. We had principles, so we locked in.

742
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: When gots certain guys, we phoned them to to the

743
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: middle and you know, we got them out of the ball.

744
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: He was credit for individually.

745
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: The mentality was there like we weren't Yeah, we're not

746
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: gonna fool nobody, and say coach d'antonia was out there

747
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: drilling us on defense. That wasn't happening. But at the

748
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: same time, you had dudes to have pride mentality. I'm

749
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: a gone.

750
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: Statue, Joe, he wan't no going on defense bullship, bro.

751
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: People won't real ship on her.

752
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: Listen, no liveses can be told. You know, the fans

753
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: don't jump all in the comments. If I got fifty

754
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: or something, they're gonna say it.

755
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't want hear that ship. That team. That was

756
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: like the only year that y'all had that team. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

757
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: but it feels like it was longer than that, don't

758
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: it does? It does?

759
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 4: And yeah, they tweaked it a little bit, a little bit,

760
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: you know, they got rid of cute at the current

761
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: timas and the next three years it just wasn't the

762
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: same as two verse.

763
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he signed his deal that summer this is

764
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Joe came up. Yeah, it ain't match. That team was

765
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: never the same.

766
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: Do you think if y'all had a couple more years

767
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: with that five?

768
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh? I think we did it.

769
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: Next year, you know, we fell sure because Joe broken broken,

770
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: but but he still came out and played though like

771
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: it was. I know it's tough on him, but like

772
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: I tell you that, I mean it was.

773
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: It was crazy. How I did it? You know, it

774
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: was was orbital.

775
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Through his mouth like breaks yeah, man face like came

776
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: to the Yeah he played though, man like he came.

777
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: What happened, came back and shut it up though, Like

778
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: that's a testament how tough he is, you know. Yeah,

779
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: I wish we could have played one more year together,

780
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, or at least gave it a chance to

781
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: do it.

782
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

783
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: I want to really read this out because, like you

784
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: want them players, that a lot of what you do

785
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: don't even come up on the stat sheet. Sometimes what

786
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: you bring to a team don't really get praise as

787
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: much as it's supposed to be. And I want to

788
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: but y'all know, though really like the casual the gods,

789
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: but peers we respected, you know, we respect the coaches,

790
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: they know.

791
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: But I want to.

792
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't usually pull the paper up, but I want

793
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: to read this out and make sure I read.

794
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: It out right.

795
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: The first player in NBA history to read fifteen thousand points,

796
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: ten thousand rebounds, a thousand blocks, and five hundred threes.

797
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Bro. That's legendary.

798
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: Bro, that's legendary, and people need to know that just

799
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: in case they didn't know that right here, because like

800
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: like you want them players like I want Jermaine O'Neill,

801
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: like he don't get enough credit, Like you gotta give

802
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: your flowers while you hear and give your flowers now, like.

803
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: These people need to respect that and know that, like.

804
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Presearch player to do that, and guys are doing it now.

805
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: But the first player was Sean Mary.

806
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't know who who named somebody else who's doing that.

807
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: My SiGe, No, but you know Lebron, he might Lebron,

808
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: I'm not even but no, no, but he ain't got

809
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: two thousand rebounds yet though you know what I'm saying,

810
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 5: six seven though Bron bigger than me, you right, so

811
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: like at my size?

812
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: No, you're right, yeah, my side, I ain't saying that.

813
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: Come on, I won't stay on it like you that

814
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: dude man.

815
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: And that's that's that's what's what definitely wanted to acknowledge

816
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: that that that's a dope thing because five hundred threes.

817
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: And people, But how old is that though? Right now?

818
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: You know you know, I mean update that I think

819
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: I had I finished my crew with more than that.

820
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: That was a that was a clip that just shows

821
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: you a mouse and why I hit one point in

822
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: my crew, I was just a mile so at one

823
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: point that ain't what I finished with.

824
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 1: Seven hundred and ninety one to you know what I'm saying,

825
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I mean, I stop.

826
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: I didn't shoot him later on as much as I

827
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: was in Phoenix because my roles changed, you know what

828
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It was just more I adapted to every

829
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: team I went to. They they ain't even sit out

830
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: there and shoot threes as much as I was in Phoenix.

831
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: So that's how that's the reason I probably could have

832
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: had a lot more than that. I just I just

833
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: didn't have to throughout the teams I was on.

834
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: For people to like criticize your jumper, criticize your form exactly,

835
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: Ship was too, That's what I'm saying, criticism you're jumper.

836
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: Like I tell people all the time, they be trying

837
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: to you know about the players.

838
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: American sh me. You can't leave them, you can't leave

839
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: me open exactly.

840
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny though it's sarcasually, it's so

841
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: funny now because don't nobody at least shoot the same

842
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: nobody nobody people they can't. I asked that question, like

843
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: It became a point where I felt like I was

844
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: got defensive by it earlier in my career because I'm like,

845
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: y'all missing what I'm doing before he was talking earlier,

846
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: missing what the hell I'm doing to stay on floor

847
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about while you're making it, trying to make

848
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: an issue or a story about my fucking shot. Look

849
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: what I'm doing in six seven this league ain't nobody.

850
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody doing it?

851
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was never on the risky report to leave

852
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: you open for three years.

853
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: I was like, how can everybody be like like.

854
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Because of the farm on the sky report, They ain't.

855
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: Saying laying them up, I'm come to play. You been

856
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: laying them up? Locked in laying him up.

857
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: And he was his No.

858
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: That's when we like bro.

859
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: He was always one of my favorite players because I

860
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: basically do what you do. Like, let's talk defender talk,

861
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: you know, because it was not a defender.

862
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: You know, you defended everybody.

863
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: You say you don't see every time he says you

864
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: got all together. Compilation, we need to put together a

865
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: compilation of him saying I don't do that, saying that

866
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: I do. You got videos they.

867
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Who trick you? A defender yeah, he depended. Not I'm

868
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: not saying he was defended, but he depended when we

869
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: need to. Everybody gotta play. Steve Kirk get in the game.

870
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: He gotta defend somebody can't like when we need like

871
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, when the lock in lock you who, I'm

872
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: not saying you.

873
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: He never been, bro, what you're talking about? I was

874
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: going Kobe and what are you talking about that?

875
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: Because the first defender they put on him probably got

876
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: a couple of fouls.

877
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: No, No, that's the game. That's how we started.

878
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: Remember we played his first I got your noble Tony Parker.

879
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that, man, You're not the defender.

880
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Got to remember. So Loki, Actually, no joke.

881
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: He did start on h because because what happened was

882
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: we we put we always put Steve in the corner

883
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: on Bruce Bruce bow and yeah, so like, yeah, it.

884
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Gotta be something, but put him on it. But then

885
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: him and Joe is switching. We gotta do what we

886
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: gotta do, switching on me because I'm you was not

887
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: a defender.

888
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: I know that's your teammate, but he's just not a defender.

889
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: You cut.

890
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: Somethis something that's I want to touch on that. I

891
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: think it's doping out. We all got a connection to this.

892
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: Tim Grovers, who's oh what the summer time?

893
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: Yes, like everything, How much did that mean to you

894
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: and your game? Just to get that type of basketball,

895
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: that type of workout from the great Tim Grove.

896
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: I love Tim, you know what I'm saying. It's funny

897
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: he was talking about that because I was just with

898
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Paul Pierrice. And remember this is the time you're talking

899
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: about the time where Chicago was a spot everybody came

900
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 2: to play ball. Everybody was here the summertime. Kobe, everybody

901
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: came here. Everybody, everybody was here. So you know, we said,

902
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: are going at it all. Was joking with Paul, but

903
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: we saw Castling when we can really pick teams. He

904
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: was like, man, Trick is on my team. Like so

905
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: like it was just like it was just funny. But

906
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: but everybody was here though, and that family that that

907
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: worked out, that that game plan we had for us

908
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: help help elevate its help motivated everybody that during the

909
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: season though, like we was here that two three weeks,

910
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: everybody came in time to work out.

911
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: It was on the ground course manybody of course it

912
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: was man it was like it was like, man, it

913
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: was give me my respect so much.

914
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: You wouldn't wait for that run nobody around with people coming.

915
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: He was on time, he was not missing that workout

916
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: like that bump.

917
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: That was a bump.

918
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: MJ and make a good guest appearance here. But like

919
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: that was what you call like man, just the love

920
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: of the game man, and competitive because everybody was from

921
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: different teams. A lot of guys can playing with each other.

922
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think nobody who played on the

923
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: same team for.

924
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: Me, like like you like this, especially after my first year,

925
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: my first year, I ain't get the player love. So

926
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: for me, we got to the summer, we got back

927
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: to Who's That was like the shackles about the bus.

928
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Everybody is real like, oh, you're about to get this.

929
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: I ain't get to play. Yeah yeah, I'm telling you that, boy, like, oh, man,

930
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see everybody.

931
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see everybody Who's and be boy.

932
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: You get traded from Phoenix, finally leave Phoenix and you

933
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: go to Miami, Like how was that? You just going

934
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: to all the warm.

935
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: So so but it's crazy though, But that was a

936
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: crazy trade though because it happened doing.

937
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm having a super Bowl party at the crib.

938
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: I got I mean is that I'm sitting there. I'm

939
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: sitting there taking the best I mean, everybody's at the crib.

940
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of famous celebrities at the

941
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: crib were sitting there. We all sitting the couches and

942
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: just all lay out the crib watching the game.

943
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: And I'm getting call. I'm like, oh, what's going on?

944
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I did just step outside. I'm like, oh, Ship, I

945
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: ain't got.

946
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Traded, Like really ready for you're going to Miami. I'm like, okay, well, Ship,

947
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: is it took long enough? Because that's the season. I

948
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: came out asked for trade before the season start, so

949
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: it happened. All that's the worst get traded in the

950
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: middle of season, you know, because now you got up

951
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: and go try stuff.

952
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: This gaybody playing season.

953
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: Doing that was the one thing that I'm out was fed.

954
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I went through a lot, but I had to do

955
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: that the season.

956
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: That's the worst. I thought. That's one of the things

957
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: I hate for.

958
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: That's part of the business, but I hate for anybody,

959
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: especially got your family.

960
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the worst about that.

961
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the hardest things for people to

962
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: adjust to.

963
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting traded on the season, Oh it's a pain

964
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: and ass But at the same time.

965
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: Though, all of a sudden, there like uh, Miami.

966
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: Going to Miami me I mean Shack being big fel

967
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: I got twalped with Shack. So so going to Miami

968
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: as the time, we was number one team in league

969
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: at the time, with the best record in the league.

970
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: And I'm going from the best regular league to the

971
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: worst record in the league at the time. Even though

972
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Miami just came up winning the championship, they had currently

973
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: they had the worst record in the league.

974
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: They had them injuries and stuff. So I get over there.

975
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, they they walking me in like a family,

976
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: and it was it was open arms when I got

977
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: there and stuff. And even though they was losing it

978
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: for like a losing the organization at all nowhere, that's

979
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: one of the best organizations in the league.

980
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: And it was a great time. You know. I ended

981
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: up going there.

982
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: And what happened was I was playing with parafles, So

983
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: I've been an I fight through a lot of pain

984
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: I played with I was one of those guys who

985
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: fall through pain. If I can walk, I can play.

986
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, we watch Jordan's flu. You know,

987
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: get I'm gonna get out there. If I can walk,

988
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: I can play. You know what I'm saying. The only

989
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: way I ain't We're going to play if I can't walk.

990
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: You gotta need it with me, sit my ass down.

991
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: So but for the most part, though, I went over

992
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: there and I had that It was really really bad though,

993
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: Like I was fighting through it for a long time.

994
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: They just told me to stop fighting and shut it down.

995
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: But we came up with a new fresh start that

996
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: following year, and then we was on the road. You know,

997
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: I was in a good place out there. I loved it,

998
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: and I was playing on standing there, you know, and

999
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: we're trying to work out a good deal to take

1000
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: me to the future and be a part of the

1001
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: organization going forward. But you know, it just didn't work

1002
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: out just right. But no heart flings. It always a

1003
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: great time. And then you know, I was fortunately I

1004
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: moved to Toronto where I can finish finish that season

1005
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: out I got traded Hallstar Record, you know what I'm saying.

1006
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: I was a vacation in Dominican at the time then,

1007
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: so and then uh Son, I need the sunshine. I

1008
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: need some more sunshine, you know what I'm saying. Away

1009
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: from Miami and then yeah, I came back and did

1010
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: the last twenty nine to thirty games and then in Toronto,

1011
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: and actually Toronto wanted to keep me because I know

1012
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna ask me about the next step after Toronto

1013
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: was a great city and great organization as well, but

1014
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: they was losing.

1015
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: I barely missed you there.

1016
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got traded at all the stop break

1017
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: and I signed after the season.

1018
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was my last.

1019
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: Season in New York, the year that he played half

1020
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: there and half in Toronto because they traded Jo.

1021
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: For you, and yeah, me and Joe I got that

1022
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: Jayo shot out Jao jail.

1023
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was crazy it happened. I got traded there,

1024
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: and I was actually going to stay in Toronto. They

1025
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: asked me, offered me a nice deal, building force with

1026
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: Chris washing them up there, but I was like, I

1027
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: didn't see them really at the time. In my point

1028
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: in my career, I wanted to really want to win

1029
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: a championship. Wasn't about the money, Like I was like, man,

1030
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: it's time for me get this chip. I want something

1031
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: to add to this legacy. So I wasn't iffy by this.

1032
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: So my agent was like Dance Town was like, look,

1033
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: they want to give you this deal. They wouldn't give

1034
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: you a five year deal. Gwaigan won't give me four

1035
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: year fifty million dollars a time. So like I was

1036
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: like at that time, it's gonna put me in. It

1037
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: was gonna put me in fifteen years. When the deal

1038
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: was over, it was four years, gonna put me in fourteen.

1039
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: I want the fifth year. I said, dude, if they

1040
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: do it, just send it to five. I didn't care

1041
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: about the money a year, like send it to five.

1042
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: But I was like, I didn't want to stay unless

1043
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: they gonna really try to make that push to try

1044
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: to win the championship.

1045
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: And that wasn't that wouldn't really not to a certain degree.

1046
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: They want to win, but they I don't think they

1047
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: foresee themselves winning the championship, you know, at the time,

1048
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: anytime soon. So I was like, look, Jake Kidd and

1049
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: Jedting them called me. Is like during the free agent time,

1050
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: because they called, they called as well. It was like, no,

1051
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: we need your ass in Dallas. You got missing piece,

1052
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: we need we get your ass.

1053
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Talent like sore and them.

1054
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: They called me and cube me and reached out and

1055
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: it was like, I was like to make it happen

1056
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: to speak on that.

1057
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: They pulled it.

1058
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: I went, there's a free agent, but they have no money,

1059
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: so I had to had to be a sign and trade. Yeah,

1060
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: so I went there Cli because the free agent I

1061
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: would just signed with Dallas immediately, you know exactly Kid.

1062
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course back with Kid.

1063
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 4: And that year year I had championship year like something clear.

1064
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: I remember like when y'all beat the Lakers, everybody was shocked. No, no,

1065
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: they beat their ass every game like this, I mean

1066
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: buying them. Then then then JJ like the Boys was pissed,

1067
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: like Ryan or the closed.

1068
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: The Boys was pissed. Y'all beat the man. Listen, listen,

1069
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: you gotta think about the getting in the process of that. Though.

1070
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: My cousin he's he picked us to win. Like he said,

1071
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: he looked at the roster and my my kitchen and

1072
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: the bar. He was like, man, y'all go out and

1073
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: do y'all do. Y'all won champion this year. So fast

1074
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: forward to keep going. Pre season, we in Orlando, we

1075
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: go d Steve crib He still got the tattoo guy

1076
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: that we chopping it up, eating barbecue, doing all little

1077
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: home thing and Jack if I'm getting the trophy tattooed.

1078
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: We we win the championship this year with.

1079
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: The president president with a on him. I remember he

1080
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: got it tatted on him right in the d C.

1081
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: Crip Orlando were right there. Yeah, yeah, he was like,

1082
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: we were in the championship this year, like locked in.

1083
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I ain't out that. Shoot, that's

1084
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: what's up.

1085
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: So get that tattoo. I ain't gonna go that far,

1086
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: but I'm rolling though. I'm gonna do my fun I'm

1087
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: with you party.

1088
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 6: Okay, randomly throw that out there, but no.

1089
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we go on through the year. We

1090
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: do our thing though we make I mean, we go

1091
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: on some great runs that year. Every team had to

1092
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: up and down through it season, you know that. But

1093
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: like we we get to the end of the season.

1094
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: We locked and loaded. Man, we ready, and we knew.

1095
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Every time I do an interview, I'm like, I try

1096
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: to tell a lot of people who interview guys is

1097
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: not athletes who actually experienced that mindset of an atmosphere

1098
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: the postseason. But it's a mindset and it's a different

1099
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: kind of feelings you have. When you have you can

1100
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: sense it. We senses as players that you can't really

1101
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: express it, but it's something that you.

1102
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: Feel when you walk in. You're looking at your guys

1103
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: and you look in the locker room and the aura,

1104
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: the orda of locker room.

1105
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta really be talking, you ain't gotta be

1106
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: saying that, but you know that swag is there, like

1107
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, damn well, we do something special.

1108
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: And we had that and.

1109
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: I was like ship, like, like this is a feeling

1110
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: like I ain't had since that run we went in

1111
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: the Phoenix and I'm like, man, dude, we're gonna win it.

1112
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, we ain't no team better than us,

1113
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: and we believe that and we know that, and wegless

1114
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: what everybody else said, because you know, a lot of

1115
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: the reporters, every writers was picking everybody favorite.

1116
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: They had Portland favorite against us.

1117
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: They had Lakers favor against us, they had okay See

1118
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: flavor against us, they had Miami flavor against I'm like,

1119
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: y'all motherfuckers don't know shit about basketball. Like I'm just

1120
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: keeping them with cannon one hundred like it's it's amazing

1121
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: how everybody sipulating and have this mindset that they know

1122
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: exactly what's going on, Like we in these trenches.

1123
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: You don't know what we're doing out here.

1124
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: We in these trenches. It's gutner out there, you know.

1125
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: And we know what we believe and we know we

1126
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: got in us. It's up to us to go out

1127
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: here and prove and make it happen to show y'all.

1128
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: So y'all can we can educate y'all on this. But

1129
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: for the most part, right now, we're goingt y'all ride

1130
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: right now, We're gonna do this.

1131
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: Were gonna handle this. We in the drive receipts. Yeah,

1132
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 4: y'all get to y'all get to the championship. And this

1133
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 4: is lebron them year with their time on, not one,

1134
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: not two. This is the first year they run them

1135
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: on off right quick and they make it there. So

1136
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: it's like everybody's like, nah, Dallas ain't gonna well, I'm

1137
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this. I

1138
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: used to say this all the time. I used to

1139
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: say it would never be a foreign player the best

1140
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: player on the team and win a championship. I thought

1141
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: Larry Bird would be the last best player on the

1142
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: team that's you know, either a white guy or a

1143
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: foreign player or you know, anything like that. Most of

1144
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: the teams that win, the best player on the team

1145
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: is a black guy.

1146
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: I thought it would never happen.

1147
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: And then when you see Lebron, Yeah, international superstar, the

1148
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: best player on the team, y'all captain on your team,

1149
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, leading this team to the

1150
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: championship and in the playoffs that he had, playoffs that

1151
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: he had, I didn't think that offing to see that,

1152
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 4: and I thought that was just dope.

1153
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: So so you know what, people don't know this though,

1154
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: we know how we really raised the level of bar

1155
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: during the postseason to win that chip.

1156
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: I me and Dirk was playing one on one. People

1157
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: don't even getting that we.

1158
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: Was playing one on one after after practice, like getting

1159
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: ready because hes gonna be massed up on smaller guys

1160
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: and or or athletic guys just in case, you just

1161
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: just in case.

1162
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: But that's how we we took it.

1163
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: That's how we took it to another level though, And

1164
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: people don't give Dirk credit for playing defense though doing

1165
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: our championship run, though he was he was a great

1166
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: team defender, and he did the things that we needed

1167
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: him to do and was locked in you know what

1168
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And that's the part of you know what

1169
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know, when you buying something and you

1170
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: leave and you holding each other accountable, like and you

1171
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: take it to another level, and yeah, I gotta command

1172
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: my man for that. That's what you know, That's what

1173
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: we was doing. People don't know that though, having Jake

1174
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: Kid on the floor being our only court floor coach

1175
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: Carlisle and making the right substitutions and to like it

1176
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: was a flow that it would be be a part

1177
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: of the experience and he knew exactly when to play

1178
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: certain guys and off that bench. But people, you don't

1179
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: go as far as your bench, remember that. People don't

1180
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: understand this. Champion of the championship runs championships are You

1181
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: don't go as far as your bench gonna take. That's

1182
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: the truth, you know, because your starters, Yeah, they're gonna

1183
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: come carry the wait, you know what I'm saying.

1184
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: But somebodys you need that bench.

1185
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: The reserves coming in uplift you and do them little

1186
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: dirty works and get that grind, get that win for you.

1187
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: You get in the playoff run.

1188
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: In every series, your reserve is gonna win one or

1189
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: two games should be real, like, you know, that's how

1190
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: it is.

1191
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Your stories ain't gonna win every guy.

1192
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: Come on, like you know, some series, if it's a

1193
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: little easier to know, okay, your stories can carry it.

1194
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: But if you in the trenches and you in a

1195
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: real tough battle, your reserve is gonna play a big

1196
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: party you win that series.

1197
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: How was it when you won? Know?

1198
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: And then because you know, we boys, Yeah, and I

1199
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: got to see some of the you know scenes at

1200
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: the pool party with the summer time, and I already

1201
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: know you got your chance to have your gonna be

1202
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: They said Kawhi left his in the room and had

1203
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: a camp or something. I seen my dog having a

1204
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: I was like, wait.

1205
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: He mimicked in the parade at his crib.

1206
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: Hey, big boy first of all, big boy house, Big boy.

1207
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: House, all day long, man, big boy boy. It looked

1208
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: like something out of Vegas. Look. I was like, what's

1209
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: going on? Man?

1210
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: How was that?

1211
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: Man? Listen to celebration was epic.

1212
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: Me and Steve had a we had an agreement like

1213
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: we were winning though we're gonna both die here.

1214
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: Blonde those Master Trophy though, yeah we're swagging, man, Like

1215
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: we don't like gold the World Championship. You could do

1216
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: anything out there looking like Golden Lords. Boy, I'm a

1217
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: m you can't tell me nothing.

1218
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 2: But Cuban even blessed us even more special. He was like, man,

1219
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: he paid like he at the pug. He made sure

1220
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: everybody got the trouble. When you want the trope, you

1221
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: go get it, take it with you, you know. He

1222
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: he gave it to g Steve first. So like that

1223
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: was the love that c me. Like, ain'man owners like Cuban,

1224
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because because he's a he

1225
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: was a fan first and the owner second. Though, like

1226
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: he got this bond that there were guys and he

1227
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: loves being action. He loves being right then the thicke

1228
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: of things.

1229
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: You know what's it? You gotta love that.

1230
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was to me, he was one of the

1231
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 3: first owners that made it made some of these other

1232
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: guys that okay for them to be that way, because

1233
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: like when you think about it, when we first started

1234
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 3: hearing about everything that he was doing for the team,

1235
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: were like, man, we need.

1236
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 1: PlayStation like.

1237
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 3: One, and everyone like wait and everyone talking about the plane,

1238
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: like just talking about how he takes the dudes out

1239
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: and dud We was like, man, listen, I was like

1240
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 3: first class, first class.

1241
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: You should see the locker room now. Oh my crazy Now.

1242
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all got this man, y'all.

1243
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: Was sure changing up. I'll be walking in playing the

1244
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: Big Three. So you know, shout out to the O

1245
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: G and man, yes.

1246
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: Sir, you know what I'm saying.

1247
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: He just don't know body really know what he do.

1248
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: He just looked cool and quiet all the time.

1249
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, always making the shirt, making it game. We go

1250
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: looking just like.

1251
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: Pull up to the name, you say what I took

1252
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: my shirt, get my might feeling. Hey fans us up.

1253
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: Let our big three teams power. We practiced in the facility, yeah,

1254
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: I said, Man.

1255
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Oh yeah, so that that's new. That's right

1256
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: across the street because practice facilities inside. So they moved.

1257
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: Across the street with the offices and stuff. And it's

1258
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: it's dope though he did a great job. Is like

1259
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: a game brewery, like an old brewery though like U

1260
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: and it's still part of their breweries there, but it's

1261
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: it's dope though it's too.

1262
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Course of gym. The kitchen it's late. It's late.

1263
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: The yeah, the physical everything dope was up and I

1264
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: was like this man Mark Cuban, b look you make it.

1265
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: He makes you want to do what you're supposed to do,

1266
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: Like that's how it's supposed.

1267
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: To be done. Where you don't want to go nowhere

1268
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: else for nothing. No one stop shopping.

1269
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: Like if I was playing and now do I will

1270
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: never leave.

1271
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Us this cryo thing. Real quick, I'm gonna tell you here.

1272
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: The new mindset, new mentality right now totally different than

1273
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: what it was when we came in because a lot

1274
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: of teams slowly, sure we start getting chefs, having guys

1275
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: cook meals and stuff like you had you seen a

1276
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: little trickle of it when I was towards the end

1277
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 2: of my career and everybody was building.

1278
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: That's saying what happened is you know, everybody, you can't

1279
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: be one up, then yea once one person do this

1280
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 3: so that here it comes.

1281
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: Because I remember when we were in.

1282
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: New York, Isaiah Legit, he made the change, he made

1283
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 3: the whole dress code.

1284
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, when we.

1285
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: Were doing that and the league offers right there seeing us,

1286
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: and every game they put that in a fake But

1287
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: at the same time the teams here when we Whene

1288
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: was there, we ain't staying none less than if they

1289
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 3: had a maderate Oriental we staying in that joint all

1290
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: super big boy five star, not just like you know

1291
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: the West and now no boy Zeke and Doland. We

1292
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: was big boys on MSG one. Uh we got he

1293
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: got his own man, boy, get on that plane wood Green.

1294
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: I said, this is the first time, like you know

1295
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, fiends, we had.

1296
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: We chartering playing. I said, I say, look up in

1297
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: here like I got wood Grain on everything. Bro.

1298
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I was up in there like I

1299
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: ain't never been. We got everything, you know, the WiFi

1300
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: that you know, all them, some of the other plane

1301
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: back in the day. This's you know through O three.

1302
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't just like that. Boy, we got the New

1303
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: York Ill like see this, I'm on a new level.

1304
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: I'm for real. But they were first class everything. But

1305
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to I got.

1306
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: I got a fun question for you your whole career. If

1307
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: you use to pick four other players from any team

1308
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: that you played for, any player that you can play with,

1309
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: what would be your five.

1310
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Played with?

1311
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: All of man for me, that's a good question. Was like, dude,

1312
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a squad the other win it again. Though,

1313
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 2: I got I got d I got Jason and kids

1314
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: and Dirk and Lebron Like I got all five of

1315
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: those guys, and I play with Chris Bosto, So I can,

1316
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: I can? I mean, that's a team right there. You

1317
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I'm locked in right now.

1318
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: We're good.

1319
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: I know what I want to ask you.

1320
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: Look, do you literally till this day, Bron Bomb was

1321
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: bomb before boys? Every time I go to Phoenix, I'm

1322
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: going to Yoshi's.

1323
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's my guy. Do you still go to your Yes?

1324
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: I do, Yes, I do, I still go. I was

1325
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: just there like, look, I'm in contact with I Look

1326
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: shout out to Yo Yo. I'm telling Phoenix he got

1327
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Now.

1328
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: Back then it was only like two twenty fourth Street

1329
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: and the Indian School, right in the.

1330
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: Plug in School.

1331
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that I'm not playing with you. Bomb

1332
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: the chicken teraacke Bro you get with white or brown rice,

1333
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: it's crazy.

1334
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: Make sure get that egg roll too. What camera looking at?

1335
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: Make sure hey with you with that sweet and sour sauce.

1336
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: I promise you. I promise you. It don't matter if

1337
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 3: I go to Phoenix, I'm going to Yoshi's.

1338
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: You hear me, like people a Leys go to the

1339
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Houston's or man, I'm about to shoot.

1340
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm catching me a lift right over here, real quick copy, y'all.

1341
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: Go ahead, slide over there, come back with my Yeah,

1342
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 3: go ahead, I'm good.

1343
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fire bro.

1344
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: He used to take care of us, platters to the

1345
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: team and stuff, like we had a little man.

1346
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: What was one boy name the first Japanese player ever?

1347
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh you two? Yeah yo?

1348
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: You to the boost to Boosie. Yeah yeah, yeah. So

1349
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: Yoshi used to come through. But he's taking care. He's

1350
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 3: a blessings would be getting on the plane. He'll bring

1351
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: you a whole big dunk platter for the flight. Boy, I'm

1352
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: talking about I'm not lying to you, bro. Best you

1353
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: can tear yacky y'all I've ever had.

1354
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: He got.

1355
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: It's simple too, Like it's really fancy and basically grilled chicken,

1356
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: choky sauce.

1357
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: And white right. That's and this I believe, simple and easy.

1358
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: He is not lying.

1359
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: Do you remember the first time they announced that she

1360
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: was going to be an All Star and like how

1361
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 4: proud and oh yeah, like how that moment was. It's

1362
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: like you accomplished it was special man two thousand and three,

1363
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: my first All Star, Jordan's last.

1364
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1365
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: We all have personal goals as players, and of course

1366
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: All Star is one of them. If you if you

1367
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: really you know what I'm saying this, and you're competing

1368
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: at this game, that's what that's what it is. You

1369
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: want to be All Star. That's what you work for.

1370
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: That's what you work hard on the summertimes and stuff.

1371
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: But being All Stars a testament to yourself and a

1372
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: team as well. You know what I'm saying, It's telling

1373
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: you how big a part of the team success you

1374
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: are and what you're doing out there to help y'all win.

1375
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: And back then, you know it was a time you

1376
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: was only lose team. You ain't making the All Star.

1377
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: It's not even a question like.

1378
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: Like dude, I felt like I got snubbed my one

1379
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: year because it was it was so many. OG is

1380
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: still making it because they was. OG's making it. But

1381
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: there's no, no not But it's just the real that's

1382
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: what That's the way it was. But like it was

1383
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: a couple of years. I feel like I should have

1384
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: still been an All Star that didn't make it. You

1385
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm say it was, but you know, it's

1386
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: what it is, you know, but it is a testament

1387
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: to what you go out and do and how you

1388
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: go out and you approach this game and how much

1389
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: you dedicate yourself to.

1390
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: It when you came up, Like, who's the players that

1391
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: you pat in your game of who's the people that

1392
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: you looked at?

1393
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: Your favorites?

1394
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, you know, you know, being here,

1395
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: you know how you can not like Black Jesus, you know,

1396
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: come on, but you know, actually, you know, I was

1397
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 2: a huge fan of Scotty Pippen and Reggie Miller.

1398
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: You Reggie is one of my favorite players. You know

1399
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1400
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: You know, it wouldn't typically one guy actually try to

1401
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: pat my game. I just like those guys. I really

1402
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: looked up to some of my favorite players growing up.

1403
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: I just wanted to just play the game. I just

1404
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: wanted to play the best way I could. Right, Well,

1405
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 2: who's your favorite five?

1406
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: Not your top five, just your favorite five players?

1407
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: Who I really thought it was? My favorite man Doctor

1408
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: j Magic Man Man. I love Kareem too.

1409
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: Man, And it's like almost I almost feel like I'm

1410
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: going back to the ogs for the game. But it

1411
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: is what it is, you know, and m J of course.

1412
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: And then I gotta throw in toss toss up man, man,

1413
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm throw to Reggie Miller here.

1414
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: Because that's why I worked. I have to.

1415
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I got I got a question. So you played

1416
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: with some legendary point guards in your career.

1417
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: We like to do a.

1418
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: Game called start bench cut, right. Oh yeah, so we're

1419
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: gonna say start bench cut, Jay Kid, Steve Nash, shout

1420
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: out Steve and.

1421
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: Stuff on Barry mm hmm. Start.

1422
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: That's that's about time out first of all, before you

1423
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: even do it's no wrong answer because legendary and so like.

1424
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying, Like, that's crazy. He's the

1425
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: perfect player to play with a point guard. Yeah, talk

1426
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: about that in itself is creat first do the start

1427
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: bench and cut.

1428
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: Did I want to ask you just what it? Okay?

1429
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: So like start man?

1430
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: You know, ja kid man, I have no choice, man,

1431
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: I have no choice, man, you know. Yeah, Steph and

1432
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Steve are are two different type of cards as well,

1433
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, and both of them unique. And my first

1434
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: All Stars with Steph. You know what I'm saying about me.

1435
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: I was three with Steve. So it's like like, you

1436
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and I gotta I gotta bench

1437
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: Steve and I'm.

1438
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 1: Sorry, I gotta cut my man stuff. I don't want to, but.

1439
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: No, So for me, we were similar in the fact,

1440
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: like we had super quick second jumps.

1441
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, offensive bound and it's cool. It's cool. You just

1442
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: was long and you dunk on people. Come on, I

1443
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: had second I didn't say you ain't had no second jump. Stop.

1444
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, that's what I'm talking about. He's like

1445
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: the best second jump. Motherfucker second jumps. I wasn't on

1446
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: all offensive board. You you rebound, your sneaking down year

1447
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: in college.

1448
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 4: We're not talking about you, Tip, You're talking about the

1449
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 4: Conference USA.

1450
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody boxing out the Conference USA. That's in the country.

1451
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: Though you don't go to USA. I let the country

1452
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: because you in Conference USA. He played against everybody. We

1453
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: played against Duke. What youre talking about, that's not Conference

1454
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: USA checking its googleable. Same word that word that is

1455
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: a real word. Ask you question.

1456
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: So, like I was saying, we in that little fraternity,

1457
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: I got the big second jumps and that we was

1458
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: all on the offensive.

1459
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: Plus he wasn't in part of this. You know what

1460
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, every seven.

1461
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: Rebounds from two guard in the NBA before four season seven,

1462
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: plus I had a second jump. Look it up at

1463
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: a two guard. You know what I'm saying, I do this.

1464
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: That's like I was saying about these rebounders and stuff like,

1465
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: how do you feel when you look at at Zion

1466
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: and you hear people say that he comparable to your

1467
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: second jump and how fast? You know what I'm saying,

1468
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: what you're doing? What do you think when you see

1469
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: because just like you say you were six seven, two

1470
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 3: thirty five, you was an anomaly at your position.

1471
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything you do. Yeah he only six six, but

1472
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: he too ninety.

1473
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah or whatever. Look listen, I'm gonna take you like this.

1474
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't think his second up as fast as mine,

1475
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: but he got a fast second jump, and he way.

1476
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Bigger than me, and he jumped higher than me, like

1477
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: I jumped pretty high. You know what I'm saying. I

1478
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: ain't gonna like some days I had a forty forty

1479
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: one and then d it's been on what that you

1480
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: called me?

1481
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: But typically I was about thirty seven thirty eight, which

1482
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: is not bad, but like that, dude, man, he got fifty.

1483
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: In NotI not that you remember different strokes and I

1484
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: don't remember the goots.

1485
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: May I feel like the boy taking everybody launch money

1486
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: saying I ain't took the ball from yond and stuff.

1487
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: Like this showed up, Like so speaking of him though,

1488
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: like I was telling everybody, because everybody's like.

1489
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if I believe.

1490
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you watched him play.

1491
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: This is one of the things about his game that

1492
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: people don't really understand the game and don't and can

1493
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: comprehend to a certain degree. So when you look at

1494
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: what he did in college, I'll tell everybody, like he

1495
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: averaged what he averaged twenty one twenty two points in

1496
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: college the game last year somewhere there not noting that,

1497
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: but he only averaged what two dunks of game two?

1498
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: Three dunks of games the most, three at the most.

1499
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: So how many points is that? Yeah? Six? He doing

1500
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff here getting the mother points

1501
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: from how is he scoring?

1502
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: So everybody's talking about he can't do this, and I'm like, dude,

1503
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: when I look at Zion, I think I compare more

1504
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 2: to like z Bo, but with the soft touch around

1505
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: the rim, but with athleticism.

1506
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: And just like mobility.

1507
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: But like if he ever loses his hops, that's what

1508
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: we should go call Zebo like Zbo for his size

1509
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: and when he did and shouts out with Zo and

1510
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: join your retirement to my guy bo baby, like he

1511
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: had the softest touch around the rim and not jumping.

1512
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen he's evil dunk whatever you see

1513
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: him dunk, That's what I'm saying.

1514
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: Times dunk.

1515
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: Just because they messed with him, said he couldn't fight

1516
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: whatever said when he did.

1517
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: He's yeah, but he ain't dunking though. That's what I'm

1518
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: saying though.

1519
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: But for next touch around the basket so soft and

1520
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: it was hard to get to a hard block. He

1521
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: and look he did it for over a decade and

1522
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: killed it with it like like but here the side

1523
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: coming comparable to a little bit. But here that that

1524
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: wet ball to seventeen ft a soft touch. Like what

1525
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying this, why.

1526
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: This what I know?

1527
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 3: I gotta ask because I know you.

1528
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: I know straight up he was an opulent individual.

1529
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, Like you you talked

1530
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: about it tout on how you come from, you know,

1531
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: not having a whole lot. So when you first got

1532
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: when you felt like you I got the bad Yes

1533
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: he adjusted the a p oh yeah, mister.

1534
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: Nice watch.

1535
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: But like I'm saying, when you first really got the bag,

1536
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: what did you do? We don't talk about what's going

1537
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: on right now because the man got about a million

1538
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 3: thousand square feet in Dallas. You hear me, I'm talking

1539
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: about bowling aalities and all type of situations going on,

1540
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 3: Jordan's stores as a.

1541
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: Closet, all this.

1542
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: You know, the man is opulent, So I have to

1543
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: ask him, of all people, this question.

1544
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: Man.

1545
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, I say, my first purchase was my mama house,

1546
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: like that was that was the first thing I bought.

1547
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: You know, I swagged on got heard and I ain't

1548
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: get the I didn't get from my check though. I

1549
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: gotta advance my agent. That was all I wanted to

1550
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: do because I knew what money was coming in first purchase.

1551
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Then then I got me a whip. What what what

1552
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: have you got? What you're going to get?

1553
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: My friends will escalate escal two thousands. So the body

1554
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: escalat was a lot of card, a lot of people

1555
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: that about me and my boy. We are kindered spirits

1556
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: and that we only got white whips.

1557
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I don't know what I got. Changed it

1558
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: up now, changed up?

1559
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: Wrong choice, A couple of mind choice because when you

1560
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: get old schools, you can't have every old school white

1561
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: because certain ones.

1562
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: I can't. You know what I'm saying, you do. But

1563
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: see we was we we we white.

1564
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: We the magazine feature boys. He had the Fortunate eleven.

1565
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: I had the only white range in the history at

1566
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: the time. They used to white. I had that joint

1567
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: flip flopped, all that real white. They knew when I

1568
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: was coming through and they had the real on it.

1569
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: Boy, were saying white was a white game. We were.

1570
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: He was the white boy.

1571
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: Bro had the Cubs Jersey, Little Jordan's killing. You know

1572
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, white got the red and I had ways.

1573
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: You know you can't.

1574
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: Magazine still, yeah, you know you know what I'm saying

1575
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: straight up, Yo.

1576
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: Man, we gotta show love the blackest mom want to

1577
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: present his uh this.

1578
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: Is this is a special gift from us luck a

1579
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 4: special black box for world Champion Hall of Famer.

1580
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: The Matrix. So I ain't come on the show. Get

1581
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: the gear man. You're supposed to give it to me

1582
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: before that behind the cameras that look trying to get

1583
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: package for the last year and a half. I know

1584
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: we've button his don't trying to get me on the show.

1585
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: But look look we got them good sponsors, right, you

1586
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: see we got we got the Hennessy, the official sponsor

1587
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: for the lead that.

1588
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: This is. But this one is very special. So that's

1589
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: the high quality. Yeah, but it's also got the custom

1590
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about. Okay, okay, I can't drink

1591
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: this then.

1592
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,879
Speaker 3: You know, I know you've got a lot of classic

1593
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: stuff in your place that you just put up there

1594
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: and don't touch.

1595
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: You can put up there.

1596
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 3: Well, hey, listen to you. I think I'm playing now.

1597
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna put his business out there. But hey,

1598
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 3: my man height.

1599
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: Okay, but we said we all enjoy life is real,

1600
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: knuckle aheads. We ain't here a baby.

1601
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1602
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 6: It's such something coming from everything baby all uh

1603
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: The players Tribute dot Com