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Speaker 1: From UFOs two ghosts and government cover ups. Histories were

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Speaker 1: with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn

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Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. All right, everyone, Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and

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Speaker 1: I am Ben. And this is stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. Now. We're talking about some current events today. Ben,

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Speaker 1: does Ben think about this? And I'm not sure. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if many of our listeners really know about

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Speaker 1: but if you wouldn't mind, can you please tell our

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Speaker 1: in schooling just a little bit so they can better understand. Um? Okay,

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Speaker 1: why you can speak to this with authority? Oh authority?

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Speaker 1: A I don't know? Um, I believe you can. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Matt, that's really that's really kind of you.

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Speaker 1: I uh study international affairs UM extensively, both for fun

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