1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, I guess what I'm kind of thinking about 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: my head is you're probably better off doing the most 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: that you can with what you got, because the replacement vehicle, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're gonna buy, is just risen dramatically. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Back at look at that Cadillac. Then I'm going to 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: get me a catalect the Car Doctor. It will tell you, Hey, 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: the TPMs sensors are stored in the body module. Now 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: you can just go into the body module and look 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: for data pits and start to compare and take notes. 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: So thank you. Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage stores are open, 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at and 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: now running somewhere in the twilight zone, I just know this. 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I know that there's a place and they've got it designated, 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, the rock and the hard place. And in 19 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: the middle of that expression in the twilight zone there's 20 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: the word order repair. I just know it's there because 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: and You never know when you're gonna go to the 22 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: twilight zone. That's the scary part about this business. Tuesday 23 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: was a great day at the shop. We just rolled 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: right along and you know, humming and singing and tralon 25 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and everything was just kind of fallen in place. And 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: about four thirty the twilight zone came along. You know, 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: it's a game of inches. You know, a half inch 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: too far to the right is maybe just enough, but 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: you've got to be three quarters of an inch to 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the left, and you're just you're just not where you 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: want to be. Danny's last job of the day on 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and he's done this job. God, he's done 33 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: this job a hundred times. If he's done it once 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: is to change trans fluid as a trans service on 35 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Jeep Wrangler. Now, jeep Wranglers still had the influence in 36 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: fifteen of Mercedes. When Mercedes ran Jeep in Chrysler back 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: in you know, two thousand through two thousand ten, whatever 38 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: it was, eleven twelve, there was still the Mercedes technology 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: is still there. And the way the engineer a Mercedes 40 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: attached the bolt to hold the pan to the transmission itself, 41 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: and you know, a transmission pan. It's a pan. It's 42 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: it's it contains, it's where the fluid sits. It's like 43 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: the engine oil pan on an engine. It's got to 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: be attached to the body of the trans that's the 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: oil supplier, the fluid supply. They put six bolts and 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: those six bolts come in their upside down and they 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: go into the perimeter of the train, ends around the edge. 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: There's only six of them, and they go through this 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: chunk of aluminium that's got like take your index finger 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and if you curl it and then put that up, 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: that kind of catches under the lip of the transpan. 52 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: And then you put a bolt through the block of 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: the aluminum and that screws into the They put a 54 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: little ear on the aluminum casting of the trans and 55 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: that screws into it, and that's what holds the whole 56 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: thing together. Now, they used aluminum block so it wouldn't corrode. 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: But the flaw on the plan was this where that 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: hook is. You know, take that, make your index finger 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: into a hook and look at it. You see how 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: there's like a little you know, it's it's kind of 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: like a craw there just that that that gully, well 62 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: that gully then allows water to collect there and it 63 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: pours right down onto the bolt that's upside down, and 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: the bolt holds water because the bolt is cast with 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: a washer in it, so the water can't go anywhere. 66 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: So now, after seven years of weather, that water has 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: caused that what's posed to be probably a corrosion treated bolts, 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: so it won't corrode to corrode. Great. So you you know, 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you're you're very careful, and you're cautious like you always 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: are your due diligence. You're a smart technician, as Danny is, 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: as I would be, as as you would be if 72 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: you had done this job a hundred times before. You're 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: always looking for that snake in the woodpile. You're always 74 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: looking to stay out of the twilight zone because you 75 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be between the rock and the hard place. 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: And the first five bolts go click click click click 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: click like ice cream, and then you get to that 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: sixth bolt, hm, that just doesn't want to go. Hey, Ron, 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: come here, Okay, let Ron break it. And you know, 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: and we went this way and very easy, and we 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: went that way and gee did it give? Or is 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: it about the break? I think it's about the break. 83 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's find out and bam right into the 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: twilight zone. We were right between the rock and the 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: hard place at at at four thirty six on Tuesday afternoon. 86 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: If that wasn't bad enough, I had ford edge that 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: I had brought in that afternoon. I got to Wednesday's 88 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: job a little early and I was looking for no headlights. 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: I had two headlights that were out on this thirteen edge. 90 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: And to make it a little more complicated, it's an 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: HID system. It's a high intensity system, hundred forty thousand 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: mile vehicle. And you know, it doesn't matter to me milege, 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter me a year. I'm still gonna follow 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: steps one through twelve, whatever they are, one through fifteen, 95 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: whatever it takes. And I always started step point and 96 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: worked my way out, and I had to duplicate the condition. 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I turned on. The headlights work, Okay, the headlights work, 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: and then after about three or four minutes, the headlights 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: turn off. And I noticed before they were turning off, 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: they were flickering a little bit, and it just wasn't 101 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: a clean off. It didn't strike me like a switch issue. 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: It struck me like something was overheating. And for Unfortunately 103 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: or fortunately, I ran out of time and I was 104 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: left to ponder it for the evening, and I was 105 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: in the twilight zone twice the broken bolt nagged at me. 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I you know, how am I going to get this out? 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: Because you have to understand you're upside down, you're dealing 108 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: with rust. The first problem with going back to the 109 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: jeep transmission is you have to get that aluminum block 110 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: with the little hook finger. You gotta get that chot 111 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: sky off. Then once you get that off, now you've 112 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: got a stuck bolt in the transmission itself that you've 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: got to get out so that you can put the 114 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: new bolt in. Had the customer come up in the 115 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: morning and and Tricia, we've worked for her for a 116 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: while now and we're building a great relationship with her. 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: I think and explain the whole thing, and she understood perfectly. 118 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: She she's a nurse by trade, and she said, you know, 119 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: this really is like an operation. She said, you are 120 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I said, well, let's not go there, 121 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: um and she understood the ramifications of it. And let 122 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: me tell you something. It's there was no other way 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: to say it. I said, is here's my options. I 124 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: could leave it. But then my concern is I've got 125 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: a rusted bolt held into a corroded aluminum block that's, 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, just packed together by the rust and the crud, 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: and sooner or later that's gonna loosen up my engine 128 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: vibration and heat, and then the trans fluid is gonna 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: leak out, and that that particular bolt, this particular bolt 130 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: happened to be a half inch forward of the hot 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: exhaust pipe coming off the cylinder head on that driver's side. 132 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, it'll make a great fire 133 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: when it does loosen up. You know, when that's how 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: you'll know that it's loose, which you'll have about thirty 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: seconds to get out of the vehicle. Um So I said, 136 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: we don't really want to do that. I said, I could, 137 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, take a sawsall and cut the aluminum block 138 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: off and then try to get the bolt out of 139 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: the case. But since that aluminum block, that hooked finger 140 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: device that holds the pan to the block or to 141 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: the trans is on back order, Chrysler has a thousand, 142 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: forty nine of them. It's amazing how much I'm knowing 143 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: about vehicles that don't have parts available. Chrysler has a thousand, 144 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: forty nine of those aluminum blocks on back order, none 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: available anywhere in the country. I said, or I could 146 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: just try and drill out underneath. So I'm upside down drilling, 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: and then I figured I'd loosen up the rust and 148 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: get the block off, and then I've got to concentrate 149 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: on getting the bolt out all the time, being aware 150 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: that any mistake, and this is the inches part, any 151 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: mistake trying to drill this six millimeter bolt shank out 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: six millimeters is a little less than a quarter inch, 153 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, could cost this lady a transmission, a seven 154 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollar transmission, a transmission that two is on back 155 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: order as an assembly from Chrysler. What do you do 156 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: the rock in the hard place, There's just no good 157 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: way out unless you just force your way through and 158 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: fix it. I have special drills set off to the side. 159 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't even let him out in the shop. And 160 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: it's not that I don't trust anybody. I just need 161 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: to know when I picked them up there sharp, I 162 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: need to know that you know they're they're my drill set. 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Don't touch them. So I went to the draw and 164 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: I got out Ron's drill set. As we like to 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: call it, and you know, I sat there. I I 166 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: soaked that clamped finger with the bolt as best I 167 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: could with some p B blaster. Um. I've got to 168 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: give credit to PB here too, because you know, I 169 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: don't talk about them enough in the sense of what 170 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: they do that you know, you hear the ads that 171 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: we run for the pro straw on the p B blaster, 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you, when you actually use it, 173 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: it's intense. It works so well the little knob you 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: dial it down. So I could just put a drop 175 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: of PB because I don't want to spray a lot 176 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: all over the place, because I'm right next to an 177 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: exhaust pipe that's gonna get hot when I fix it, 178 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: and the vehicle is gonna warm up and it's gonna 179 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: make a smoky mess. So I was able to just 180 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: get enough on the upside down clamp, just let it soak, 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: and I hit that a couple of times over the 182 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: course of of six or eight minutes. I just gave 183 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: it a chance to kind of work its way in 184 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: there and soak into the rust and the crud, and 185 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: then I started to drill a little bit, and I 186 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: drill upside down, and then I took a little ball 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: peen hammer and I tapped the aluminum, tapped it this way, 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: tapped it that way, drilled a little bit more. And 189 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: after drilling, oh, I don't think I drilled more than 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: three sixteens of an inch off the shank of that bolt. 191 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: I actually drilled my way past the rust blister that 192 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: the bolt had become. And then I was able to 193 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: take a pair of vice gripts and twist the clamp 194 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: and get that off. Now we have the hard part 195 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: right now, I've got to get this. I've got to 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: get this, this six millimeter stud because there's no head 197 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: on the bolt anymore. Out of the aluminum case. That's 198 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: frozen into the case, and it was frozen. It was 199 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: just amazing. I used an electric heat gun. Um. I 200 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to use the torch because a torchill. Torches 201 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: are good, but not in this case. Next to aluminium, 202 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: next to a transpan, there's all sorts of internal switches 203 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: and gaskets and seals and rubber components. I like the 204 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: electric heat the inductive electric heat guns. You know, you 205 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: can control the heat, you can make it, you know, 206 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: less than that hot, angry blue flame of a torch. 207 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: And I was able to apply some heat and work it, 208 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: and apply some heat and work it. And what I did, 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: and here's the tip, and here's you know. Is what 210 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: I've explained to Danny and I'll explain to you is 211 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I've got a study mover. You know a study mover. 212 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: It looks like a socket. It's got three swedges in 213 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: it that will grip the stud I always use. I 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: have a three eighths ratchet. I have a short. I 215 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: have a quarter inch ratchet with a three eight's gutting 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: it so I can put a three eighths extension on 217 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: that stud remover and use this little short. It can't 218 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: be longer than two and a half three inches, And 219 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I'll use that because it will give me feel, but 220 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: it won't give me leverage. I don't want leverage because 221 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to pull on that stud so hard 222 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: i snap. But I want to be able to feel 223 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: it when it's about to give, when it's about to move, 224 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: and I can kind of work it a little bit. 225 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: And that's what I did. And I sat there and 226 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: over a period of time I was able to get 227 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: the stud to loosen up and it popped out and 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: we fixed it. We came out of the twilight zone. 229 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you it's nerve racking, it 230 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: really is. You know, you you sit there and you 231 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: carry it home with you. Is a good McCay and 232 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't think we're supposed to, but we do. Um 233 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: And I just wanted you to know this because it's 234 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: it's what mechanics go through. It's it's when you're immersed 235 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: into it and you're invested in the repair and you 236 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: want to make everybody happy. You know, it changes just 237 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: like that. By the way, Wednesday, when I came back in, 238 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: I found out that the well in the customer had 239 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: to picked the car up Wednesday early, So we're gonna 240 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: get another crack at it on Monday this week coming. 241 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: But I think I know what's wrong with it, believe 242 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: it or not. I think it's got two bad headlights, 243 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: as crazy as that sounds, because Wednesday morning, when I 244 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: continue to look at that vehicle and go through my diagnosis, 245 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I tapped into the two feeds going into the hid 246 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: ballast resistor as it enters the headlight, and they both 247 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: had power when the headlights went out. So I proved 248 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: step four. I proved that I've got power going into 249 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: the headlight. Just that the headlight turns off. The headlights 250 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: shares a common ground with the high low beam shutter 251 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: valve that makes high low beam on hid, so I 252 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: know it's not the ground. The shutter still works, so 253 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: it's either a bad ballast or a bad headlight. And 254 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: the reason I think it's a headlight and it could 255 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: be a connection in the head lamp. I don't know, 256 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: but I know where I'm going is because when I 257 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: closed the hood for the last time on Wednesday, when 258 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the headlights were off, you know, I dropped it from 259 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: about three inches up. You know you take your hands 260 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: when make a good slam. The headlight turned on. I said, wow, 261 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: look at that. So the headlight was off. I walked 262 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: up to the headlight and I played FONSI. I went whoa, 263 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: and the headlight popped right back on again. So you know, 264 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I kind of know where I am. And it just 265 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: seems like auto repairs, maybe a series of television shows. 266 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: One minute is the Twilight Zone, the next minute it's 267 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Happy Days. It just it just gotta laugh at all zero. 268 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: I am ron An any in the car, doctor, and 269 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm here to take your calls and questions. 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Let's get over to Jim in 289 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Michigan sixteen Chevy tracks four cylinder and a story about 290 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: him in general motors. Jim, did you enter the Twilight 291 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: zone with this car. Let's well, I would love to 292 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: say it's the story, but it's the God's honest truth. 293 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna believe it. Try me, Okay. My wife 294 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: and me finally got into a financial state where we 295 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: were able to buy and purchase a brand new car 296 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: for her, and she fell in love with the two 297 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: thousand Chevy Tracks. Little than we know that the Suzu 298 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: fourth owner that was in the vehicle um came with 299 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: the turbo and at the turbos eight the engines up man. 300 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: When she purchased the car, they did not tell her 301 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: that she didn't have the normal warranty was five years. 302 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Was five years and arn't thus of miles. No, they 303 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: did not inform her of that, okay, when she purchased 304 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: the vehicle. So the first year we had a problem 305 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: with the valve cover. The PBSC valve was bad. That 306 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: cost us a hundred and fifty bucks, wasn't covered undneath 307 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: to warranty. Uh year later, something else has gone wrong. 308 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Wait wait, how here's jim Hold up? Back up a second. Here, 309 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: this is a vehicle and the first year the valve 310 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: cover failed. A problem with the PCV valve and it 311 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: wasn't covered under warranty. They said it was. It was 312 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a usable part, rearable part. Well, I would have an 313 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: argument there because PCV valve a PCV VL was part 314 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: of the emissions warranty and it should be covered. Agree 315 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: with you and me and me and the manufacturing around 316 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: and around about it. But they said no because it 317 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: was a built in feature of the valve cover and 318 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: the valve cover wasn't a wearable part. But the PPC 319 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: valve was ben't considered it not a wearable part. And 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: who did you talk to? You talk to customer service 321 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: at GM. You raised this up to a higher level 322 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: than beyond the dealership. I had a friend that worked 323 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: for GM. He was designed designed in engineering, and he 324 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: tried to warn me about quite a few of the 325 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: vehicles that time with the zu Zoo motors in them 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: and m He told me quite a few horror stories. 327 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: But that's not here there. But when I went to 328 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the dealership to have the vehicle checked out and five, 329 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: they said because it was integrated into the valve cover, 330 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: that was considered a usable part. The dealer did, and 331 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that the dealer did. Yeah, okay, did you ever talk 332 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: to anybody at GM customer service above the dealer level. Yes, 333 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I did. And they said the exact same thing, because 334 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: it was integrated into the valve cover and it was replaceable, 335 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: and that it hooked directly into the intake, it was 336 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: used considered a usable part. How many miles were on 337 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: the car, how many miles were on the car at 338 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: that time. I'll tell you what I really, I really, 339 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: and I'm not just listen. I'm not saying you're not 340 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: telling me what happened. But you know, I find that 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: hard to accept, simply because federal emissions warranty is eight year, 342 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: eighty thousand miles on on components such as that, and 343 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: I would have to reread that. I would tell you 344 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: to go back and look at your owner's manual and 345 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: verify that you know what exactly is covered and what 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: isn't forget what they told you when you bought it. 347 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: But I'd like to see that in writing somewhere, because 348 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: beyond that, I think it's here. Say you got a 349 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: little bit of homework to do, Jim, do that, call 350 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: me back and we can talk about this further. I've 351 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: got to go. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Welcome back running the 353 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: car doctor at zero zero. Let's go over to Bruce 354 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: in Michigan fourteen subru outback in some oil consumption questions. Bruce, 355 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. Canna help Hi, Ron, Great 356 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: to talk to you. Um so like I was I 357 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: was saying earlier to Tom, subro out back has the 358 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: four cylinder engine in it. It has about a hundred 359 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand today. Um, it's been burning oil for 360 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: about a hundred thousand miles, so about sixty thousand miles 361 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: into it, it started burning oil. Now it's fairly regular 362 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: that about four thousand miles to five thousand miles. It 363 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: needs a quart, so we we changed the front catalytic converter. 364 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: I was expecting that to happen based on listening to 365 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: your show. For as long as I have that, that 366 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: oil has got to go somewhere. Well can I can 367 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: I cut you off for a second here? Um, so 368 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you're saying it needs it needs a quarter oil at 369 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the four thousand mile mark or the four hundred mile mark, 370 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: four thousand, not four hundred four thousand, How offen are 371 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you changing oil? Um? Well, now the wife, it's her car. 372 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: She says, basically, I changed the oil when the light 373 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: comes on because it's time. But how long had you 374 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: been changing at intervals? Always at five thousand but when 375 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: it started and we we actually from new it's been 376 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: on a synthetic oil and mobile one actually since since 377 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: we got it, so it was always on a five 378 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: thousand mile interval. It started using oil. We would add 379 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: oil to get it to the next interval um. And 380 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: and now it kind of has, like I said, settled 381 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: in at at about every four thousand or by the 382 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: time you hit four thousand, it's it's ready for a court. 383 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: So we've been just changing it now at about four 384 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: thousand miles, so about ten thousand miles ago or several 385 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: months ago. She's in real estate, so she drives all 386 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: over the place every day, so it's hard I think 387 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: of it in in terms of days now. At some point, 388 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: but you know, the front cat went bad, um, so 389 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: we changed that out. And after listening to your should 390 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: for as long as I have and and other people's experience, 391 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm waiting for that rear cat to go um. 392 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: And just kind of not really due to that car, 393 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: but just in general. On the internet Internet, stumbling around, 394 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: I saw a video of somebody installing an oil catch 395 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: can on a direct injected engine and then checking it 396 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: some miles later and finding you know, oil in this can, 397 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and and the vehicle that he installed it on was 398 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: a fairly new, you know, low mile vehicle. But that 399 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: I guess the point is direct injection engine seemed to 400 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: have this problem. So so my question is is it 401 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: worth putting a catch can on on that car to 402 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: try and extend all the downstream issues that you have, 403 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: like with catalytic converters and no two sensors and all 404 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: of that. Is it worth? Because my thinking is all 405 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: you're doing is providing another place for the oil to 406 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: go rather than through the cat but it's still gonna 407 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, the catch can is a relationship about crank 408 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: case vacuum and pressure excess and giving it a place 409 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: to go so it doesn't blow past the rings and 410 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: sit on top of the piston and create a carbon 411 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: deposit issue, of which you probably have at this point. Anyway, 412 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's this, this, This is my grandfather, it's 413 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: seventy eight saying he's gonna stop smoking so he can 414 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: live a long life. Um, you know, the horses out 415 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: of the barn already. Brother, all right, Um, you're trying 416 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: to close the barn door. The horse has been done 417 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: for two days. Uh. You know where your problem lies 418 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: is likely in the way Subaru had some issues with 419 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: low tension rings and by now things are umbed up, 420 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: varnished up, and you're never gonna solve it even with 421 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: a catch can. Um. So I think I think you're 422 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: spinning your wheels. Um. You probably will never see that 423 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: rear cat be an issue as far as turning on 424 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: a fault code or a check engine light, simply because 425 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: I don't believe that downstream CAT is monitored. If you 426 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: if you look to see where the last O two 427 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: censor is, I believe the upstream and downstream OH two's 428 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: are both contained within that front pipe, depending upon which 429 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: version out back catalytic converter setup. This is that downstream 430 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: CAT is an unmonitored cat for knocks, and they don't 431 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: put any sensors in it to verify integrity or functionality. 432 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: It's just there so you know, the only way you 433 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: would know it's fails if somehow it it clogged, failed, 434 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: broke apart, you know, but then you'll have a performance issue. 435 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: The engine won't build any power, et cetera. But I 436 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: think at this point in the game, um, you know, 437 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: just changing the oil. I might tell you to just 438 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: change the oil at thirty miles because oil is still 439 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: cheaper than an engine on a on a on an 440 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: eight year old car. And you know, Heaven forbid, Heaven 441 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: forbid one month it goes the oil light comes on 442 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: at three thousand miles. When that light comes on, you're 443 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: still running the oil down too low. You know, it's 444 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: it's too thin for your wife to be out and about. 445 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: And my concern would also be that you know she's 446 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: she's out and about on the road all hours of 447 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the day and she doesn't need to have an engine 448 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: failure trying to emerge in the traffic on a highway somewhere, 449 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: and you know, possibly have a bigger issue. So, you know, 450 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: change the oil at three thousand or thirty miles. You know, 451 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: if you do that for the next two years, what 452 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna do to extra oil changes a year? Um, 453 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: her life is worth more than that, and and the 454 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: overall safety in a car. Um, the tragedy human Let 455 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: me go ahead, go ahead, let me ask you this thing. 456 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Is there wisdom than since the front cat failed. Is 457 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: their wisdom than and just replacing the rear cat now, 458 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: um for that failure, you could, But if it's like 459 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: the we had a I'm trying to think of what 460 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: year that was, we had a Subaru in the shop 461 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: this week, um or was it last week? And I 462 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: think it was around this generation. It was a twelve 463 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: or thirteen. No, it was an O nine. It was 464 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: a nine. Holy cow Subaru parts. That catalytic converter from 465 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Subaru was four grand. Almost fell over just the cat. 466 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, I think that I don't think it's ever 467 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna get restricted enough. You changed the front cat because 468 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: you've got a fault code right right, And what's gonna 469 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: happen is is you're just going to beat up the 470 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: front cat again. I've got to think you're gonna beat 471 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: up the front cat before the rear cat fails, because 472 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: the front cats still going to catch any oil that's 473 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: going out. It's not that putting the new cat on 474 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: now allows the oil to bypass it and go to 475 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: the second cat. The front cat is still going to 476 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: take the brunt. You know, do you wanna drop the 477 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: front you want to lower that the front of that 478 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: rear cat down and look inside with a flash light 479 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: and see what sort of crut is over the face 480 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: of it. Sure, you could surely do that, and it's 481 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: probably gonna be fairly easy to do, since you just 482 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: had the front cat out and the bolts will come apart. 483 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: Easiest pie. But to spend four grand on a on 484 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: an eight year old car with a hundred and sixty 485 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, I'd just be cautious. You know 486 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: that the tragedy here is that, and you can take 487 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: a look at it. Suber Bu has got more than 488 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: a few bulletins on it. They just revised one of 489 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: them our rs and Ron again, oh two dish one 490 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: fifty seven dish fourteen rs and Ron and it talks 491 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: about the oil consumption issues on a variety of their 492 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: vehicles and how they extended the warranty to eight year, 493 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand miles. So what I don't understand is 494 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: why if at sixty thou miles this thing was having 495 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: oil consumption. Well, no, actually I do know why, because 496 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: if you read that bullets and from memory, if memory 497 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: serves me right, supers interpretation is that if the vehicle 498 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: super considers it oil consumption, if it's consuming more than 499 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: a third of a quart of oil in twelve hundred miles. 500 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: So that's about right. You're right on the money. So 501 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you're doing a quart of oil in thirty six hundred miles, 502 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: four thousand miles. Guess what? And I don't understand this. 503 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, Bruce, I'm gonna get on 504 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: the soapbox for a second real quick before I go, 505 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: and that I don't understand this because I've got vehicles. 506 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: I mean, my little Ford Ranger Ranger three lead two 507 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: twenty one thousand miles doesn't burn, it leak a drop 508 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: of oil. You know, my old four suburban eighty thousand 509 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: miles doesn't leak or burn a drop of oil. Um, 510 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's to me a quart of oil. This 511 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: this nonsense that the industry is is feeding everybody that 512 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, a third of a quart of oil is acceptable? Yeah? 513 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: On what planet? Look what it did to you. It 514 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: wiped out the catalytic converter in the first hundred and 515 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: sixty thousand miles. Um. You know, maybe it was sooner. 516 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: I don't know when we changed the cat So what what? 517 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: How are we not? How are we being cost effective 518 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: and helping the environment. But you know, we're we're we're 519 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: we're we accept this right, we accept this as fact. Bruce, 520 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: I gotta go. Um, you know I've got to go, brother, 521 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: So if you need more, call me back. But we'll 522 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: talk again. I'm sure. But that's how I would approach that. 523 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: And I want to thank you for the call. Good 524 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: luck to you. Be well. I'm Ron any in the car. Doctor. 525 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. 526 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car. Like, let's go over 527 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: to Chris in Colorado. Chris, did you fix this explore yet? Oh? Well, 528 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: let's fix and affix it. Ron. It's it's a bad case. 529 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: So like you said, it's mechanical issue. I pulled the 530 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: intake upper intake, pulled the front cam cover and yeah, 531 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: I looked down intake. Watch the valves have the life 532 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: crank it and uh valves. The intake vowels weren't closing 533 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: all the way. So pulled the cam cover and the 534 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: front camshaft is broken in half. Wow, yep, broken in half. 535 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Pulled the back cam cover and the back god cam 536 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: caps three of them are broke clean in half. So 537 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: you've got to think is that a lubrication problem? Did? Yeah? 538 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean everything looks nice and shiny an seeing hotspots, 539 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, something you know what happened? Did did did something? 540 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: What was the original Let's back up? Why did you? 541 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh you you did the timing chain because the water 542 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: pump went bad? Correct, Yes, sir, yep, but I've done that. 543 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: I've done that twelve thousand miles prior to this failure. 544 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: So this is this is just a if this exonerates 545 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: you with the missus, you can tell our twelve tho 546 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: miles later. I don't think it's anything you did. I 547 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: think it just the look of the draft. Yeah, and 548 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of where we were at 549 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: with it too, right, Like, Man, it doesn't seem like 550 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: it's something I did wrong because it would have failed 551 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: rather than the first crank and start right, well, listen 552 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: and and and some of the engines today are pretty 553 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: strong and durable. They'll they'll they'll take abuse for two 554 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: thousand miles and then something goes ka boom um. You 555 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: know that the two thousand mile rules something I I 556 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: sort of you have grown to live by. But at 557 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: this point this vehicle has how many miles on it. 558 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know that just repairing the 559 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: cam shift is the way to go if you're going 560 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: to fix this, because I know you want to get 561 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: rid of it. Uh you know, I I think this 562 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: is a used engine candidate. Um. Yes, I've already purchased 563 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: that's actually waiting for me at my workplace to pick 564 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: it up. I purchased that two engine on it, but 565 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: came out of the Yeah. And it should it should. 566 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: Everything should be the same. Just look at all the 567 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: connectors and componentry. Um. You know what I'll do is 568 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing a Junkyard swap, and I haven't done 569 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: one in a while, but back in the day. Uh, 570 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: you know what I will do is I will spend 571 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: an hour and just go through the parts catalog. Um. 572 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, our injectors the same, Our mass airflow sensor 573 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: is the same, although in this case you're gonna swap 574 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: the mass airflow you're gonna use the original one. Uh 575 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, But our sensors on the engine the same, 576 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: crank sensor, um you know, and everything else, etcetera, etcetera. 577 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Just go through the list. What's different? You know, maybe 578 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: it's a different vendor, but if it's the same part number. 579 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: And I would, I would, I would try to look 580 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: up in a O WEE catalog somewhere, you know, direct 581 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: with four just to see what they've got listed. And 582 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: then this way at least, you know, because you don't 583 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: want to find out after you put it in you've 584 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: got to change the tone ring or the crank sensor 585 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: on the back of the engine. You know. Um, then 586 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: your wife's gonna yell at you again. You don't want 587 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: to do that? Yeah, yeah, I want to. I don't 588 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: want to do this again. Did she get did she 589 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: get a new car yet? Okay? Yeah, yeah, we weren't. 590 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: We weren't real impressedly or that's every time you talked 591 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: about your wife's what eighteen Explorer made me cram just 592 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: because I'm like, we've got fourteen and I'm a forward 593 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: guy through and through and love my forwards, but not 594 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: so much anymore. And so yeah, she's got a brand 595 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: new palaceased for you know why I wouldn't you know what? 596 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled about the New Explorers, Chris is real 597 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: quick before I go, is I've noticed that like on 598 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: the New Explorers, the only choices it's either a turbo 599 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: charged four or a turbo charge six, you know, and 600 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a I just think the turbo charger places 601 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: additional stress. And I know they're chasing fuel economy, especially 602 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: after this week the White House things we're gonna get 603 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: forty nine or forty miles to the gallon in three years. 604 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: But listen, that's a different conversation, Chris. I'm glad we 605 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: found out. I'm glad you got to the root cause 606 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: of it. And uh, you know it's it's it's now 607 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you get the way. You don't. You don't have to 608 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: because you know you already know she's gonna tell you 609 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: what color. You already know what color is she's driving 610 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: that car. As always, Chris, I appreciate the information, and 611 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: thanks for getting back to us. You'd be well, and 612 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: I hope you make up better on your next car. 613 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm rounding any in the card. We'll return right after this. 614 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back the car Doctor. Another quick 615 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: hour flew by. By the way. Phone numbers eight five, five, 616 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: five zero zero For future shows, call leave a message 617 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: and Tom Ray will get you in the broadcast. For 618 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: the next live show. We can put you in queue. 619 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Just leave a message at the eight five five zero 620 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: zero phone number. Quick piece of email. Hey Ron, In general, 621 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: what do you recommend to apply to rubber components to 622 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: preserve keep them soft and pliable, prevent squeaking, and lastly 623 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: to lengthen the life of anything rubber under the car? 624 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: I know it's not a common question, so I appreciate 625 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: you taking the time look at my question. Warm regards, 626 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Richard Handel, m D. I don't think that's Maryland. I 627 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: think he's a doctor, a fellow doctor looking at UM. Well, 628 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what and I'll answer the question this way, Richard. 629 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: First of all, rubber under the car is exposed to 630 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: the elements you know, road, salt, corrosion, crud, everything that 631 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, Mother nature can throw at us when we're 632 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: driving the v coal out and weather. So you know, 633 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: when we're talking about rubber under the car, I will 634 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: use some sort of a UM spray lubricant uh P 635 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: B Blaster for example, makes a wonderful lubricant PP Blaster 636 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: MultiMAX synthetic lubricant and synthetic and I like that all right. 637 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: It's got some real good cling factor to it. You know, 638 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: if you spray it and you watch it, you know, 639 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: Spray it on a on a vertical or I'm sorry, 640 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: on a horizontal surface and just watch it kind of 641 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: has some drip to it, and uh, you know that 642 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: drip is cling and it it'll it'll, it'll get drawn 643 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: into the rubber. I've I've been using it for a 644 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: while now, and I'll notice when those cars come back 645 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: in that the rubber bushings still have that I won't 646 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: say oily, but you can tell that they have a 647 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: a look about them, that they're still wet, so to speak. 648 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: They're not dried out and cracked. And what I will 649 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: do is I will mix up a batch of silicone spray, 650 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: uh something else PV Blaster mixed by the way, and 651 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: some p B Blaster MultiMAX synthetic lubricant. Mix it up, 652 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: and I will even brush it on in certain applications, 653 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: or I will put it in a fush fish bottle, 654 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, a handheld atomizer bottle and sprayed on that way. 655 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: And that stuff works really well if it's rubber above 656 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: the car, above the belt line. What I will do 657 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: is I will just use pp blast or silicone spray 658 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: very lightly, put it on a towel, wipe the rubber 659 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: just enough to get some silicon on there to address 660 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: the rubber, and that makes the rubber last on top 661 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: of the car as well. I'm running any in the 662 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: car doctor until the next time, reminding you good mechanics 663 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it.