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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm your host, Carrie Champion,

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Speaker 1: and as I record this message, it has been it's

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Speaker 1: been an interesting forty eight hours for me.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I always say this, We appreciate you for listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast and really supporting us this week, your girl

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Speaker 1: and her team of amazing producers. We're able to be

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Speaker 1: nominated for an Image Award, an NAACP Image Award for

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Speaker 1: Outstanding Podcasts Art Sports Culture. We are up against Nightcap

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Speaker 1: with Shannon Sharp and Chadow Joe Sinko. Do not, I repeat,

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Speaker 1: vote for them, vote for us. We have to go

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Speaker 1: and vote on NAACP Image Awards dot net.

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Speaker 2: I'm posting it all on my feed. Please go vote

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: We're also up against another podcast called Two Mamas, Two

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Speaker 1: Funny Mamas. That's Sherry Shepherd and Kim Whitley. I believe

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that last name wrong, but please forgive me.

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Speaker 1: Then there is who else is in the category, another

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Speaker 1: fellow brand on the Black Effect Network, R and B Money.

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Speaker 1: That's what tank, But it doesn't matter. I want you

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Speaker 1: to go and vote for me. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: In general, I'm just being real selfish because this is

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Speaker 1: the first time and if I'm being honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I've seen in a long time a woman in this

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Speaker 1: in this space, in this sports space, be nominated for

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Speaker 1: a podcast and an Image Award. I think my girl

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Speaker 1: Jammel was nominated, but she wasn't living in a sports space.

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Speaker 1: She won twice, she won two Image Awards for her

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Speaker 1: podcast Unbothered, but that wasn't necessarily a sports space, and

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Speaker 1: so we need to support because it really means a

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Speaker 1: lot to me one of these few times where as

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Speaker 1: a woman in this world, we're being recognized, a black woman,

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Speaker 1: more specifically in this world of sports, you're being recognized

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Speaker 1: for your work ethic, not necessarily for you know, what

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Speaker 1: is great, but true, truly, it was an honor just

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Speaker 1: to be put in this category with all these greats.

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Speaker 1: It means that the culture sees you. They understand how

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Speaker 1: hard we are trying to be representatives, at least on

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Speaker 1: this podcast of the culture and speak to issues that matter,

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Speaker 1: give a voice to the voiceless. And I think that

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Speaker 1: it was really important for us this season to rebrand Naked,

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Speaker 1: reason why I truly wanted to rebrand it because there

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Speaker 1: were so many stories in the world of sports that

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Speaker 1: weren't being told from a different lens, and that would

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Speaker 1: my lens. And I'm just grateful that the NAACP Image

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Speaker 1: Awards took the time to acknowledge what we are doing here.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things where.

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Speaker 1: You say, I'm just honored to be nominated, and I'm

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Speaker 1: truly just honored to be nominated. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: vote for me, little enginet could everybody else got two

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Speaker 1: He gonna win those other three of four. He don't

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Speaker 1: So I got that news very funny on Monday, Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: These winds were and are currently even as we film

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Speaker 1: I'm sending so much love to my city, and I

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Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where we live at the intersection of sports, politics, and culture.

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Speaker 1: Our purpose reveal the common threads that bind them all.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Carrie Champion. Hey, family, So thank you

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you asked. The biggest myth is that

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Speaker 2: Pancake, pancake, sausage, sausage, wrists kiss. That's how we want

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Speaker 3: See, I got it. Okay, I guess I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: And by that I mean this is the inaugural of

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Speaker 3: Well. I had a neighbor who Whitney do boys, and

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Speaker 1: Like you knew that you were special, you knew you

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Speaker 2: Well that was when I was. When I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: The rest is history. Tell us about the history, because

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Speaker 3: Let's establish I was not special because Penny Kicksie and

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Speaker 2: I think for a freshman, I was still anidia. Let's stop,

438
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm still an idiot freshman coming to campus.

439
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: I look at myself and try to see wisdom, but

440
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: I really just see an idiot freshman.

441
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: But you recognize the things that you can and can't control.

442
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: And I was like, look, whether I get onto that

443
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: starting spot or not, I can't control that. And I

444
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: actually suffered a pretty devastating injury during pre season that

445
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: cost me the first part of the season, and I

446
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: just remember being like, well, there's nothing I can do.

447
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: If all I can do is get in, get my

448
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: rehab workout, try to be strong and work my butt off.

449
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: And I remember when I could finally play again, I

450
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: was playing on the B side, and I was like,

451
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't care that I'm on the B side.

452
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play my hardest. I'm gonna whoop A sides.

453
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Speaker 1: But because so for those of us who don't know Volleywood, yes,

454
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Speaker 1: and when I say us, I mean me.

455
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Speaker 2: What's the B side? Okay? So you have A side

456
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Speaker 2: and B side.

457
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 3: So you have your starting six that are on the

458
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: fourth that are going to play in the game, and

459
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Speaker 3: then you have your B side, which are the people

460
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Speaker 3: that are coming into be game changers. They tend to

461
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: be on the bench and they'll sub in to serve,

462
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: or they'll sub in if an athlete's injured, but they're

463
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Speaker 3: typically your bench players.

464
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: If your A side is your starting side, and your

465
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Speaker 2: B side it's your backup bench players. Okay, so you're

466
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Speaker 2: on the B.

467
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: So I was on the B side because I had

468
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: been injured and I needed to earn my starting spot,

469
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Speaker 3: which I was absolutely necessary.

470
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: But I was like, Okay, if I'm gonna be over here,

471
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna have.

472
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: To fight tooth and nail to shut me down because

473
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna whoop their butt because if they can beat me,

474
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 3: then they can probably beat the other athletes that they're

475
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: gonna face the competition. And I remember we had B

476
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: side whooped, but because we had also two men's practice

477
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: players and it was.

478
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: Me and I was yelling and shirping and talking smack

479
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: and what I shockgates.

480
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: But I was, yeah, I was just shirping away. Happened

481
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: to good all the time, and we actually ended up

482
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: winning the drill. We won most of the drills that day,

483
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: and Russ at the end of practice always talked to

484
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: the team and he was like, you could have all

485
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: the energy you want, but just remember this, you're still

486
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: on B side. I was like, thank you, thank you

487
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: for the slight so humble bye, thank you, thank you

488
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: so much.

489
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: But the following day I was on each side. Really okay,

490
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: hold on, I just don't don't talk. Don't talk over.

491
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: That hell, so you you're on the b side.

492
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: It's one practice.

493
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: It was one practice, yeah, and then I'm sure if

494
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: you ask other girls are gonna be like it was

495
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: like a week and a half of practice.

496
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Like but in my mind, in my memory, who's the

497
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: following day? Damn? Yeah? What that say to you?

498
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: So that I that energy goes a long way, because

499
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm like this stellar attacker, like I

500
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: have one of the highest hitting percentages in Penn State history,

501
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: and like I have like a good hitting like I

502
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: was a great middle at the Tokyo Olympics and all

503
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: this stuff.

504
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: But like that doesn't matter. I think my personality is

505
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: kind of what makes me a.

506
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: Decent ish player because I'm loud and I'm obnoxious, and

507
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: I'm in your face and I'm screaming and I'm cussing

508
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: and I'm smacking butts and I'm talking about.

509
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: You're right, the fans love. It's You're what the game needs.

510
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: You are it.

511
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: If you if you were to describe yourself folk for

512
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: folks who aren't familiar with volleyball, who would be your equivalent?

513
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: Someone would say you remind me Ofsessed and such in

514
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: the AMBA or the wn B or in soccer, who

515
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: would who would your personality remind people?

516
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: Okay, personality not going off to Las Vegas for three days,

517
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: but personality.

518
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Denis Rodman.

519
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: Uh huh that I want to be Rodman, so bat

520
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: and I know maybe a little like don't worry, don't

521
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: apologize about that, just say that on the court, Dennis Rodman,

522
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: his flared hair, his obnoxious style, like his just kind

523
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: of being loud and in your face, but also like

524
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: just a good support player.

525
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: Brodman would have games where you didn't score any points at all,

526
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: but he was in everywhere.

527
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying that was my motto for this past everything

528
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: was just do your job, Like you don't gotta be

529
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: the star, you don't got to score twenty points. You

530
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: gotta blah blah blah blah blah do your job. And

531
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: I did it with high energy. And so I think

532
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: Dennis Rodman, if I can say, that's a bold statement,

533
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna.

534
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Say it when we come back. Hayley shares more about

535
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: her playing style and what made her realize she was

536
00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: built for this sport back in a moment, Hey, everybody,

537
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: welcome back to naked sports. So Haley is in the

538
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: middle of sharing a story and she talks about how

539
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: she found out that she was really a special player

540
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: without bragging. I use the word special one day during practice.

541
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: When she was in college.

542
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: One day of practice aside. The next day, you walk in,

543
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: you're on a side, and what do you say to yourself?

544
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I say to myself, Okay, don't blow it, idiot.

545
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: You know positive self talk. I'm a mentor, I'm a

546
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: role model. Sorry, just touched my mics.

547
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, I have no I've pushed this mic around

548
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: twenty times.

549
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: Deal with it now. I'm kidding.

550
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: But Noel, that aspect of a humility of like, okay,

551
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: yes I earned it, but let's not like just assume

552
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: that that's it.

553
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: Like you still got to do your job.

554
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: Do your job, idiot, and I wouldn't dare call you that.

555
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, okay. So then you get in there,

556
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: you do your job.

557
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: And I work my butt off.

558
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: I get I think, defensive player of the year something,

559
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: all big ten, oh, something like that.

560
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: And I love the humble brag. I don't know, I

561
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: just did. I'm not I don't know. I just say, yeah,

562
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I'm joking. Cut cut that out in

563
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: stays in.

564
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: Don't take it out for goodser Okay, so you you

565
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: you literally show up and you show out and you

566
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: do your job.

567
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: How's that season end?

568
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: We got a national fiship Actually okay, but truth be told,

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: that was not a humble brag. Again, I just was

570
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: saying a fact. We won a national championship that season.

571
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: We had two starting freshmen, me and Ali Franti. And

572
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: it sounds like this great accomplishment, but I played like trash.

573
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: The NCAA tournament. Russ was even very kind enough to

574
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: tell me that. At the end of the tournament.

575
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, you played like garbage a tournament.

576
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: I said, thanks, Russ, appreciate you and I But the

577
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: thing is I didn't need to play great. It was

578
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: again because it's not about me, it's about leave. So

579
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I did my job well enough. It's right that the

580
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: women around me could take care of business and they

581
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: could get the W and that's what we did.

582
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: I just did my job.

583
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: The cydebar not even a cydebar, but actually, what I

584
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: am noticing as I listen to you talk and I've

585
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: said this about women in sports, obviously it builds your

586
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: self esteem and your confidence.

587
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: That's something that there's much.

588
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: More positivity about women who play sports than there is

589
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: about women who don't. And it's not a knock, it's

590
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: just what it is. But there is this thing about

591
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: women in general when we get into this world and

592
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: we live in the world, it's hard for us to

593
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: find our voice. It's hard for us to speak up

594
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: and raise our hands. You don't have that problem. But

595
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: what I love is that you have the humility mixed

596
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: with that, and that is a special that's a yes

597
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: and and it's an invaluable trait that you don't get

598
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: to see so much of. And it takes it separates

599
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: you from everyone else, it really does, and I think

600
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: that helps. As Russ has pointed out, you know, I

601
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: love your energy, but you do your job. But I'm

602
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: going to do my job well, and I'm going to

603
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: be everywhere, and I'm not trying to be the best,

604
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: but I'm going to be everywhere and do my job. Now,

605
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: when you have that same mentality, and I know in

606
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, you also went to the semi finals, right

607
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: you guys, guys A final semifinals, oh.

608
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: Reverse by Nebraska in twenty seventeen, I don't want to

609
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: talk about it. But Defense State just did that to

610
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: them this year, so it's fine. I guess we can

611
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: talk about it. It's fine we can't talk.

612
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: We can talk about it the whole time that you're

613
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: playing in college. Do you think that there is a

614
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: life after in terms of playing professional volleyball?

615
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: I love this question.

616
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: I remember my sophomore year being in the locker room

617
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: and being asked, Hey, will you go pro? And that

618
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: was the first time it had ever been presented to me,

619
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: this idea of going pro. And I remember jokingly being like, pro,

620
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: my niece can barely handle college.

621
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: There's no way I can handle pro.

622
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: If I could go back and slap the sophomore year me,

623
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: shut up, look how far we can go? I would,

624
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: But I never really thought that I could play pro

625
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: let alone do USA.

626
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: I remember my senior.

627
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: Year being asked will you try out with the USA

628
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: gym and telling them I just don't really think I'm

629
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: a good enough blocker, I'm not offensive enough in front

630
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: of the ceter so I just I don't really think

631
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna be for me. And that was just kind

632
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: of my mentality, was like I'm going to get through

633
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: college and I remember my senior year well, because I

634
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: really wanted to stay in academics, well, I wanted to

635
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: get why not go for pro? Yeah, one, it was

636
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: so far away, and like everybody that came back kind

637
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: of told me these horror stories of being overseas, being

638
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: isolated from your family.

639
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: You're far away for a long period of time, we're

640
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: not really making big money. So I was like, this

641
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: doesn't sound fun. But I remember talking to Russ again,

642
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: Russ Rose, This guy influenced my whole life.

643
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: I remember talking to Russ about going overseas because I

644
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: had this idea that, Okay, I'll go play pro for

645
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: two years, save up enough money to pay for a

646
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: little bit of my master's degree, and then I'll come

647
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: back and get my master's in philosophy, and then I

648
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: was going to be a critical race philosopher and then

649
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: a libraryan and I work in the Library of Congress.

650
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: That was the dream.

651
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: Sounds exciting, Yeah, the volleyball's better so in the Library

652
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: of Congress, but volleyball.

653
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Has been way more exciting. Yeah. But Russ actually pulled

654
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: me aside and he's like, if you're gonna do this

655
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: overseas thing, do it right.

656
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: He's like, build yourself up, build a career, build a

657
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: name for yourself. Don't just shut it out after two years.

658
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: It's like, commit to it.

659
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: And I was like this Russ guy, Hi, I'm telling you, man,

660
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: he's a legend. He's a life coach. Don't let him

661
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: fall back into the pages of history. Guys. He is

662
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: a gangster and built the program.

663
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: He coached Penn State forty three years, built volleyball at

664
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: that school.

665
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: They want Russ rose Man.

666
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, so he says, do it right, do right?

667
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: You get those orders, then you think why not? I

668
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: do want to say this, Hey, you were going to

669
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: give up on a dream because it was far away.

670
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't a dream for you. Though it wasn't a dream.

671
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: I wonder is it a dream for others.

672
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: I you definitely think they don't want to do it

673
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: because they don't want to go overseas.

674
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: I that's a fear of mine.

675
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Is that?

676
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Or worse?

677
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: People do follow their dream and they go overseas. And

678
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's not a glamorous life. We're very

679
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: spoiled in college sports here with our nice Some of

680
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: us have charter flights and if we don't have charter flights.

681
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: We at least why like domestic and it's comfortable, and

682
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: we have these.

683
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: Big, fancy locker rooms. And now there's underwater treadmills, a

684
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: programs and dining halls with lots of fancy food, and

685
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: we have ice bats and hot and we're.

686
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Spoiled in college sports. And then you go overseas and

687
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: you're on a greyhound bus for six hours to go

688
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: to your next game. You get to a hotel where

689
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: you're sharing it, where you're sharing a room and they're

690
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: two twin sized beds, and the locker room that you

691
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: have is leaking, and you have to make sure that

692
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: you have all your stuff and your equipment because nobody

693
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: else is handling reefs like it's a culture shock, And

694
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: so you follow the stream to go overseason to play

695
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: pro and you're really fighting and fending for yourself and

696
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: it's not always like that. There are some definite good

697
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: teams that have great resources. So no Tino shade to

698
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: any of the international leagues. I was blessed at Italy.

699
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: I had some really great opportunities, some great resources.

700
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the side note. She she's been playing overseas

701
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: in Italy. Not a bad game, not a bad not

702
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: a bad game.

703
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: You like pasta? I do not like pasta too Corby,

704
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: it's too car baby. I gain weight like crazy. I

705
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: can't enjoy pasta. I can have the occasion is the pasta.

706
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: They're bad and like I feel like I know it's.

707
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: So it's so good, like you can't get the problem

708
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: is you just you can't eat it all the time.

709
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: I like wine, though, okay's gun.

710
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I did learn overseas is

711
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: the wine. So there are presumably, and this is why

712
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: we are here today to talk about this professional league

713
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: that is state side. But there are presumably, and I

714
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: don't want to make up numbers, but there are many women,

715
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: maybe hundreds, maybe thousands of women who who gave up

716
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity or perhaps thought about going overseas to play,

717
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: but they just didn't want to do it because of

718
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: what it required on them mentally and physically and personally.

719
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: No holidays, no like no holidays with family, Thanksgiving, New Year?

720
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: What's the seasons?

721
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: So if you're a national team athlete, the season can

722
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: be anywhere from October till May. But if you're not

723
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: a national team athlete, if you're just coming out of

724
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: college or if you're not doing national team, they usually

725
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: ask for you around like August, so you'll be out

726
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: there August, September, October, November, December. Ten years, it's like

727
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: ten months. Wow, it's a little long season. And if

728
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: you're in a higher to your team, you have usually

729
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Champions League and then you have Cup Italia and Super

730
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Colpas and regular season, so you're playing two three games

731
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: a week.

732
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: You're traveling constantly.

733
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: Your off day is really your travel day, so you're

734
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: also seeing everybody. You never get a chance to be

735
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: by yourself. It's how much money do you make? It's decent,

736
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: it's I think a crass am.

737
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: I I'm gonna talk numbers. I in sports, don't.

738
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: I hate that they don't talk noumb Yeah, my last

739
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: season name is two hundred and thirty thousand, which is

740
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: pretty high paying for a middle blocker. But I mean

741
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: there are girls that are making I mean there are

742
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: some pro girls that are making millions and like in endorsement, sponsorships,

743
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: but I think on average you're trying to make a

744
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: six figure contract. So League one was a downgrade from

745
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty thousand, but still six figures. I

746
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: think I'm making somewhere from like one twenty to one

747
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: to fifty, but I have to look.

748
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: At my contract, I know how much of me. But yeah,

749
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: still six figures.

750
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: And they offer decent money to most of the athletes,

751
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: as far as I know, may not always six figures,

752
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: especially for girls that are coming out of college or

753
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: for girls that are have less experience overseas or in

754
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: the pro world.

755
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 2: But I mean it's decent. Pay the bills.

756
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: So it's ten months overseas somewhere in the twos anywhere

757
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: upwards to perhaps seven figures in the millions.

758
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: That's for the oh one percent, okay of athletes.

759
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: That's for like done average.

760
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, on a I would say on average, if you're going,

761
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: if you're an American going overseas, on average, you're looking

762
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: at one hundred and twenty. I think, like the Olympic

763
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: American athletes like go overseas, we're in the six figures.

764
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: But if you're just an average college girl, I mean,

765
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: your starting salary is gonna be a twenty one.

766
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: So Russ gives you this advice and he says, do

767
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: it and do it right. How'd that work out for you.

768
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: I think I went into overseas with a good mentality

769
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: of like just say yes, Like whatever opportunities present yourself

770
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: to them, say yes and work hard. And so it

771
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: worked out well because I played on this really low

772
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: level A two team my first season only.

773
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: For a month and a half two months, because I

774
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: came in for a half season. We didn't make playoffs.

775
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: So I just kind of came in but made enough

776
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: of a.

777
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Statement that I got on an A one team, the

778
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: last place team in A one, which, if you don't

779
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: know volleyball, most professional leagues overseas have like an A

780
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: one team and an A two or an A one

781
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: league in an A two league, okay.

782
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: It's like our any like our NBA and the G League. Okay,

783
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: perfect equivalent. Ye yeah. And so I was on the

784
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: last place team in A one, but then I managed

785
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: to work my way up.

786
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: To the fourth place team in A one, and then

787
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: I was in the top one or two teams for

788
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: the rest of my career.

789
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: So you did it right? Did it right? As Russ suggested?

790
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: As Russ suggested, he's a very wise man, A wise man,

791
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: wise man.

792
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: When we return, what does the future of professional volleyball

793
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: look like here in America, back in a moment, Welcome

794
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: back to naked sports. So just for contexts, I want

795
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: to remind you I am in Atlanta while doing this

796
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: interview and we are just hours away from the beginning

797
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: of making history and professional volleyball. Take a listen. I

798
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: want you to talk to me about when you heard

799
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: about this opportunity. There's been other professional volleyball league, so

800
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: there's been obviously Peach volleyball that people have tried to do,

801
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: and some of them have failed because there have been

802
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: issues with finance. Money is always the issue. There's always

803
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: the issue. Money is always the issue. And I want

804
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: to make this a negative.

805
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: But when you were approached by Love, what were you thinking?

806
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: Is this real? Can I do this?

807
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: And I know this has been in the works for

808
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: some years now, but what were your initial thoughts?

809
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my initial thoughts were excitement because I

810
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: have been approached by a couple other leagues about how

811
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: they wanted to kind of run American Volleyball. So I've

812
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: been approached by AU which is another volleyball league that

813
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: we have here in the States, and it's super fun.

814
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: It looks like the girls that go and play and

815
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: that have a really great time, and again it's a

816
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: way to bring volleyball to America. So I love the

817
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: AU as a thing, and I had been approached by them, and.

818
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: I didn't love kind of.

819
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: Their format though, like I just wanted to be a

820
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: regular volleyball league and they rotate teams every week, and

821
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not as excited about that. And

822
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: then I had been approached about another potential league that

823
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: was all all stars and it was only for a

824
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: couple of weekends and it was just like all start

825
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: showings and showcases, and.

826
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't love that either. And so

827
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: when League one kind of came up to me, when

828
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Love approached me, They're like, hey, we have this idea

829
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: for a league and it's just a regular old volleyball league,

830
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: but it's a grassroots movement. It's oriented in the community.

831
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: We want to get youth athletes involved, youth sports involved.

832
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: I was like that I'm interested in because I think

833
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: that there's an untapped.

834
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: Market in youth sports here Stateside.

835
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: I think that, like, youth sports are so big in America,

836
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: and we do a really good job of developing our

837
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: younger athletes, and so to tap into that market while

838
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: also funneling that excitement into a pro league and to

839
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: provide just a regular old pro league so exciting, and

840
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: so I was I was.

841
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: On board from the jump. As soon as they presented

842
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: the idea. I was like, yes, I'm in Wow, And

843
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: I think.

844
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: It was just it was kind of that mentality of yes,

845
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: and and then like what do I have to lose?

846
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: Like if it fails, whatever, at least I try. You

847
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to still go play overseas. That's still

848
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: an option for you.

849
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: For sure. This is a win win absolutely, Like there

850
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 2: was no.

851
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: Like Italy wasn't just gonna disappear off the face of

852
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: the earth because I did League One.

853
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: And there are so many leagues in the world.

854
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: There's France, there's Germany, there's Korea, there's Japan, there's turky like,

855
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: so it was never gone.

856
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: So I was like, why not take the time to

857
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: invest in this.

858
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Do you look at the w NBA and you see

859
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: what it? You know, it's inception right and where it

860
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 1: is now? Do you see that being the same vision

861
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: for love?

862
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: I think yes, I think I okay, are to begin one.

863
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't love the comparison of are you gonna be

864
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: like the WNBA or are you gonna be like the

865
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: fair and WSL, because we're all different things, and I

866
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: think like they're all going to have I think what

867
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: makes volleyball funds the intimate environments. I think what makes

868
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: the WNBA fund is their big atmospheres, and so they

869
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 3: didn't always have a big atmosphere, and so.

870
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: Like those are things that are like growing into.

871
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: So I think women's volleyball is going to have its

872
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: own kind of path, and I think the start of

873
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: the intimate atmosphere is going to be.

874
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Kind of our What will set you up in pact

875
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: well far is that.

876
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: Intimate atmosphere can feel like a lot of fun, whereas

877
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: sometimes in the WNBA that intimate atmosphere can feel a

878
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: little bit almost.

879
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Energy sucking, at least in their inception.

880
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to overstep I am, I want to

881
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: say anything rude, but I think that intimate atmosphere can.

882
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: Really be great for You're Jenna sa Qua.

883
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what we like about going to a Love volleyball game.

884
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: So so as we record this podcast, Love's first serve

885
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: will be on ESPN plus who It's huge, right, I

886
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: think that's a huge start. I'm curious as to what

887
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you think will make this first game different. You said

888
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: you want your own path, you don't want to be compared,

889
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: and that's very fair. I think that the comparisons are

890
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: also fair as well.

891
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: Definitely, I'm sorry if that came across this room.

892
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

893
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: No, but I think they're fair because people what I

894
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: what I think when I say that is it started

895
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: off with fan fair.

896
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: People are excited. It might have some growing pains as all.

897
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: All it's do is yeah, but then then there comes

898
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: this moment where people understand it's its value and start

899
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: to appreciate it.

900
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: That's the truth that I think.

901
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I absolutely agree, and I'm sorry, no, no, no go.

902
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: I think the WNBA has kicked but in kind of

903
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: paving the way for women's sports also, and so I

904
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 3: think like there's gonna be that growing pain time where's

905
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: where there's less engagement or maybe not as many people

906
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: are watching for sure, but the w NBA, just women's

907
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: sports in twenty twenty four have really kind of put

908
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: us on the map, have helped with getting more exposure.

909
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: Like the WNBA really came up for nothing.

910
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: There really weren't meant there wasn't much excitement for women's

911
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: sports when it was in like when it had its

912
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: inaugural season and when it was first starting off, and

913
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: they really had to kind of like build from somewhat nothing.

914
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: And so I think that they have done a great

915
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: job kind of paving the way and getting people excited

916
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: about women's sports, and so I think that's maybe what

917
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: might make it easier for us to get people's attention,

918
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: to get people well, yeah, because I can't remember a

919
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: time where you get a professional women's league and they're like,

920
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: let's just put it on ESPN in any capacity. Yeah,

921
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: And you know, year to year, even the growth the

922
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: NCAA Championships from my understanding where forty one percent.

923
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: From year to year, and that's huge.

924
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: To actually tune in and see people are paying attention.

925
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: It's in the zeigeist if you will. I hate to

926
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: use that word.

927
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: It is.

928
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: It is just out there.

929
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: But I'm interested in what you think the ceiling is

930
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: or is there no ceiling?

931
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: What I think the ceiling is.

932
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: What is the world that you could imagine in your

933
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: wildest dreams, in the world that you think will actually be.

934
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: In my wildest dreams.

935
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: I imagine every game is like the NCAA Championship.

936
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: I know that's that's a.

937
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 3: Big dream, but I mean, if you can get fans

938
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: that excited for one game out of the year, I

939
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: don't see why you can't get them hyped for every game.

940
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Kind of like that.

941
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: And I mean I just went, like, I went to

942
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: a hockey game ABS played the Utah Hockey Club in

943
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City, and I was like, this is so cool,

944
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: and it's so possible for women's, Like I think it's

945
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: possible for women's volleyball to be in those big arenas,

946
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: be in those spaces for people to be excited.

947
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: We have to teach people how to be volleyball fans.

948
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: We have to tell them it's okay to be loud,

949
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: okay to make noises, You're not going to scarce away.

950
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: That's so interesting that you say that, Well, it's just

951
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: because volleyball is like tennis, so they assume it's like

952
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: tennis or fighter and serve fighters.

953
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: So interesting that you say you have to teach people

954
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: how to be fans. You have to teach people how

955
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: to understand the sport. You have to teach them, and

956
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: that is the onus, honestly is on the people who

957
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: know the sport and the people who play it.

958
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm just bringing you in and be like, hey,

959
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: come on, I don't know what we got to do.

960
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: If it's I don't know, whatever it is, you're gonna

961
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: get you guys excited about this game.

962
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you a question about being

963
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: an Olympian and that's the ultimate goal. And I'll find

964
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: a way to put this bick and I want to

965
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: weave in the ultimate I think for mini athletes, no

966
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: matter who you are, even if you play professionally, the

967
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: goal is ultimately to represent your country. You have the

968
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that in a major way. You want

969
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: a gold and you want a silver middle blocker. Talk

970
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: to me about those those experiences for you. What does

971
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: it feel like to actually take a sport. Because I

972
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: believe during the Olympics that's when bollyball gets more in

973
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: indefinitively and at the highest levels, and it's it's global

974
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: so people can pay attention and they understand the sport

975
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: in a different way. What does that feel like for you?

976
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: For sport they get so little attention states, I mean.

977
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: The Olympics, you always get hype over sports that you

978
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: don't usually get to see because there's just less coverage

979
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: of it. Like track and field is one of the

980
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: most watched events, but outside of the Olympics, like unless

981
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: you're following an athlete on Instagram, you're not really seeing.

982
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: What they're doing during a quad.

983
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: And so I think you kind of sport even gymnastics, gymnastics,

984
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: track field, rugby, although rugby now is picking I think,

985
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: so it's huge.

986
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just need.

987
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: To be at that stage, to be at the Olympics

988
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: and like know that kind of the world is watching,

989
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: especially with the background of playing overseas.

990
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: Because internationally volleyball is big sport.

991
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: Turkish fans, Brazilian fans, Italian fans.

992
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: They're big.

993
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: It's big over there, and so you kind of feel

994
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: all eyes on you in that moment, which is on

995
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: the one hand scary and intimidating, but on the other

996
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: hand still just volleyball. For it's the same size and

997
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: that's the same height. So all you have to do

998
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: is what my motto is, do your job.

999
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: Do you out there. I'm telling you, it's that's the

1000
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: game of this podcast. Do your job, heys.

1001
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: Do your job.

1002
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: It's so easy to does not be bad at life.

1003
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: Just do your job. Stop trying to be a start.

1004
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: Just do your job.

1005
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so I'm going to say this, and

1006
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: this is just this is just my projection. I do

1007
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: believe that this sport will do well, but it needs

1008
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: it needs its characters, it needs it's it needs people

1009
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: to correct.

1010
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: And I was like, you are illuminary.

1011
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: And I think that if people can understand who you are,

1012
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: where you come from, and their personality is absolutely a one.

1013
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: So I think that if you have more stars, people

1014
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: can follow and be invested. I'm fully invested. I want

1015
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: to I really am like, I'm in love with her.

1016
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean in a completely platonic way, but I'm like, I.

1017
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Really want to know. I really like, I really don't

1018
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: know what else is happening. Your favorite food? My favorite

1019
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: food is rice. I know it sounds super boring, but

1020
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: you can do so much with rice.

1021
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: You won't eat pasta, but you just like rice. I

1022
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: love rice, jolo, ricela, rice, cilantro, lime rice. You just

1023
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: make rice farmers risotto?

1024
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Do you put meat in there?

1025
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: Just rice? So if you were on an island, all

1026
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: you need is rice. You do so much with rice.

1027
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: You just find rice and spices. Rice is great. I

1028
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: love favorite song right now, uh Dodger Blue by Kendrick Lamar.

1029
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: Favorite artists right now, So some good artists right now

1030
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 3: The Beaches their Canadian band.

1031
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: Okay, threw me off with that one. I'm sorry. I

1032
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: appreciate that.

1033
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 4: All right.

1034
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Favorite dance right now? What's your celebration dance? Oh see,

1035
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm not like I just I.

1036
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: Can't do that on this. You don't have it. No,

1037
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know doing it. You can't do you like.

1038
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm not doing pe tequila in me or you pay

1039
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: me for it. It's just not something favor drink ooh water,

1040
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: stay hydrated. Actually of Pablo Mouse. Lacroix is Mike. I

1041
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: love Lacroix, dude.

1042
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: But if we're speaking in the more like adult beverage beverage,

1043
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: I love tequila. I did a tequila tasting when I

1044
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: went to Disney World with my boyfriend and that was

1045
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 3: fire on yeho tequila.

1046
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all we're doing. A big fan of tequila.

1047
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Is your thing on your hell?

1048
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I or a good mescal? Oh way, did I

1049
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: take it back? I'm gonna be that pretentious a hole.

1050
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: It's like a mexical. I love a smoky mescal.

1051
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Any any mix you just mescal rot like a mescal.

1052
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't love mixed drinks. I don't like

1053
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: the sugar, so like a mescal Sunrise, that's easy.

1054
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: It was like orange juice, all sugar, just mexic. That's

1055
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: real gangster favorite athlete.

1056
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: There's so many good ones to choose from.

1057
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: She Carrio Richardson some own biles. Katie thea Decy. I'm

1058
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: gonna do o Katy the Decky right now. Why she's

1059
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: a mermaid and I've always wanted to meet a mermaid.

1060
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: Dang yeah, okay, I'm gonna o Kay the Decky, and

1061
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm sticking about the mermaid thing.

1062
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: But she's your on thin ice, Katie do something cool

1063
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: yet she wrote a book. She's just like he's so smart.

1064
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: She loves Lacroy like I love lacor mean you.

1065
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: She's a ra okay crush. At the moment out of

1066
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: the Driver, Oh yeah, I was like, uh h Adam

1067
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: driver's pressure drivers So daddy.

1068
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, ay, your daddy.

1069
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: Why because he's uh, he's got that like Burley muscle,

1070
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: but also like dorky kind of look oh or Leandre Earl.

1071
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: She's one of the artists in the Beaches. Okay, all right,

1072
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: there you go.

1073
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: And then when we get ready to get our mind

1074
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: right before a game, what are we listening to?

1075
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: What's your What's your goal?

1076
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: Song? Either Sweet Transvestite from the Rocky Hord Picture Show

1077
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: or Plagues from the Prince of Egypt, both musicals.

1078
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: Those musicals get you hype to play and they get me.

1079
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Have you heard Plagues? I know I have not a girl.

1080
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: I need to get to it. You gotta get on that. Okay,

1081
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: we'll play it in the podcast. Yeah, it's okay, play

1082
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: Swee Transvestite. That's not for this kind of podcast. But hey,

1083
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: but that's what that's that gets you right, Yeah, every

1084
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: time you go out. Yeah, I played that entire Olympics

1085
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 2: before every game. What yeah, in your mind locked in zone?

1086
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like the slow build and there's this

1087
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: one part in the Plague song at least where it

1088
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 3: like really it just hits and you're, oh, we're.

1089
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: Going I can't sing, so I'm not singing for you.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping. I'm like I'm quiet. I'm like, let

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Speaker 2: you do it. Maybe we'll get say yes, get.

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Speaker 1: We're having some mescal for the game. Your favorite saying,

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Speaker 1: My favorite saying of one thing I.

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Speaker 2: Am certain is that I know nothing.

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Speaker 3: Pancake, pancake, sausage, sausage, risky.

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Speaker 2: It's love. It's love, man, Hayley, I love you. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for being here. This was so fun. It was great.

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Speaker 2: It's great goodness.

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Speaker 1: I surely enjoyed that, young lady. We had a good time.

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Speaker 1: So huge thank you, though. Let me get these out

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Speaker 1: of the way. To Stephanie Martin of League one Volleyball

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Speaker 1: and everyone who made this possible. The first game was

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Speaker 1: a huge success. Follow along on their site, League one

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Speaker 1: Volleyball as they play through their inaugural season. Remember, here's

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Speaker 1: to everyone watching women's sports. I'll talk to you all

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Speaker 1: next week. Naked Sports written and executive produced by me

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Speaker 1: Kerry Champion, produced by Jock Vice Thomas, Sound designed and

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