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Speaker 1: I do want to start off with, and I brought

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Speaker 1: my stat sheet undraftkings, just full transparency with how much

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Speaker 1: I lost last year won last year. And I can

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Speaker 1: tell you this, I was having a pretty good year

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Speaker 3: That's when things just started getting weird in both the

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Speaker 1: I was very open about my struggles.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we appreciate vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: I never want to be the guy that acts like

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Speaker 1: Some years. I've had years where I've really come out

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Speaker 1: of head. This was not one of those years. My

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard, dude, and.

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Speaker 1: I was doubling up to catch up. And I was

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Speaker 3: I think it's called no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't chasing. Immediately, I wouldn't chase as my emotions

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Speaker 1: were high. The next week I would go not checked

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Speaker 1: this thing. Is that that's a version of chasing. Is

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Speaker 1: I don't like to chase, but I don't feel like

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Speaker 5: No, I don't chasing is like the night of a

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Speaker 5: coach chase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and more deposits, more deposits were chasing.

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Speaker 1: I did a lot of bets though this year that

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Speaker 1: were big bets, big futures that I did not hit.

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Speaker 1: I have one left, I have the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: I put a thousand bucks on.

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Speaker 5: I can make it all back, right, Oh yeah it

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Speaker 5: was wasn't that paid like twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But like I bet a future and it didn't

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Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Bucks to both make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was easy money about week seven. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I lost twenty four thousand dollars in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I had to so you sent a bet.

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Speaker 3: I don't know a couple of weeks ago, and I

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Speaker 3: the guy's relaxed. He loses a lot too, all right,

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Speaker 3: just so you know, I don't want them to growing up.

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Speaker 1: It was a good one though. I had like a

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Speaker 3: It has been tough. Yeah, a lot. I've had to

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Speaker 1: It said same under his bread. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we haven't heard from Brandon about gamaling in

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Speaker 3: I remember a lot of Brandon stories of dude, I

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Speaker 6: Like this has been just the worst past like two months.

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Speaker 3: Losing money. But how much fun has it been?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: You have to do it for entertainment, yes, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Like what else?

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Speaker 2: So much fun?

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Speaker 1: Man, it is awesome.

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Speaker 3: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: How much fun it was? So yeah, don't do it

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Speaker 1: unless you have it to lose. It's entertainment only.

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Speaker 3: But my wife, my wife thinks I have a problem

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Speaker 3: because and it's not a problem. I don't have a problem. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's that? That's what you call the races?

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 3: You guys had done that bet you know, and like, uh,

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Speaker 3: what was it was? Arkansas basketball parlayed.

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Speaker 3: I saw Kevin's text come in. Never saw your text

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Speaker 3: And my wife goes, you have a problem, I'm just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, those ones are fun, though, like when all three

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Speaker 1: Like hanging out, but you're not exactly And you know

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Speaker 3: That's crazy crazy.

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at it. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: you're doing and you're losing too much. Stop. I looked

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Speaker 1: oh man, my last cup once were real bad on me,

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Speaker 3: But see, to me, the futures are fun because it

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I couldn't find it back in

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Speaker 3: Five thousand bets.

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Speaker 1: Well, so we'll start with little honesty there to get

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Speaker 1: it started. I do have the richest athletic departments in

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Speaker 3: I have not seen the list?

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Speaker 4: You haven't.

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Speaker 1: in all college sports? Texas, Texas, Vanderbilt, not endowment for

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Speaker 1: that's just rich to That'd be probably Harvard too, but

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Speaker 3: I'll go to Texas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it is Texas, Texas at number one.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: It is Texas. Oh you saw it?

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Speaker 1: Don't know how they lose a single game at anything.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, I'm going to go to Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Was that coach that left Jo's got all their money.

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Speaker 3: He took all that money.

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Speaker 1: They had to hawk all their weights.

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Speaker 3: That's all the ways guys.

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Speaker 3: They're they're really bad that they're not ranked anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well appreciate it. How you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: We live in Nashville and the Titans are here. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: So no, I'm this is absolute truth. I'm not pandering

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Speaker 1: and I've been a diehard fan of the Panther. Why

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a compliment. Well, because one

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Speaker 2: When'd you come to camp? I was, I was there

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Speaker 2: It was in not this year, last year, years ago,

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Speaker 1: You think that Panthers can beat the Rams.

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Speaker 2: This is a recorded line. I think, yes, okays have

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Speaker 2: But they're getting some players back and we aren't. So

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough but eventually, But the biggest things

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Speaker 2: I think they give themselves a chance. If they don't

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Speaker 2: Everything you've done in a regular season, that's great, That

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Speaker 2: everyone has a clean slate. However, you know, we all

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Speaker 1: Is it possible to be too hyped up for a

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Speaker 2: Yes, but no, you want to be hyped up, you

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about a team getting a bye,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the playoffs and there's not a Lamar,

441
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Speaker 1: there's not a Patrick Mahomes, and there hasn't been a

442
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow for a couple of years, but he's one

443
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Speaker 1: of the elite guys over in the AFC. Is this

444
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Speaker 1: the year that he's got to do it?

445
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are saying that I'm not.

446
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to say he has to

447
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: do it because he's also playing the Jacksonville Jaguars team,

448
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 2: who is pretty stout right. Offensively, they're doing what they're doing,

449
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: but defensively, they're holding a lot of running backs, really

450
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: good running backs, and James Conner is one of those

451
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Speaker 2: guys below seventy five yards per game, Jonathan Taylor, who's almost,

452
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Speaker 2: I believe, the league leader and running for the running

453
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Speaker 2: backs and yards, and they held him to like seventy

454
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Speaker 2: five or seventy four yards. Order back of receivers they're

455
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Speaker 2: holding under seventy five yards per game. So it's gonna

456
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Speaker 2: be tough to say that Josh Allen needs to do

457
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Speaker 2: it where his supporting cast actually needs to do a

458
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Speaker 2: little bit more and take some weight off at his

459
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Speaker 2: back because he's been carrying that team for a very

460
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Speaker 2: long time.

461
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about return yards because you have

462
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Speaker 1: a lot of them, but when you're returning, are you

463
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Speaker 1: approaching that different than if you're catching a ball, meaning

464
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Speaker 1: the players are running at you, all of them. Do

465
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Speaker 1: you have to have like a supreme peripheral vision when

466
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Speaker 1: returning a ball.

467
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Speaker 2: That's a great question.

468
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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Neither one is different, and here's why. I would say,

470
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Speaker 2: when you're running a ball, when you're running a route,

471
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Speaker 2: jump up and catch it. What's the outcome if you

472
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Speaker 2: drop or pat you drop or catch the football.

473
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Speaker 1: If you drop it, I don't know, you still might

474
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Speaker 1: get hit.

475
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you catch it, yeah.

476
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Speaker 1: I mean if you're drop it, you still might get

477
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: hit too, if it's close.

478
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you catch it, it's a guarantee you're

479
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: going to get hit. Yep. Hum return same thing. The

480
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: difference is they have a head start and you just

481
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Speaker 2: get to watch them. That's it. It's a mind trick.

482
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Speaker 2: The outcome still happens only if the ball that's thrown

483
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Speaker 2: to you in the route is uncatchable or if you

484
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Speaker 2: fair catch. Other than that, you're gonna get everything you're

485
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: you hope you don't get when catching a punt or

486
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Speaker 2: catching a route with the ball in your hands, Big

487
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: guys trying to knock the snot out of you.

488
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Speaker 1: Did you hate fair catching?

489
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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes? I sure did. I was a stat whore.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, could you tell on a punt when they're running

491
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Speaker 1: down could you see the lane before the ball even

492
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Speaker 1: got to you.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the film study comes. Where the ball

494
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Speaker 2: is going. So for me, is catching a football, I'm looking,

495
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking up. As I'm looking up, I'm also

496
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: because look, you're on the team with fifty three guys,

497
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Speaker 2: forty six that dress, You eat breakfast with them, you're

498
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: around them. Since you know those dorm rooms two years ago.

499
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Speaker 2: Though those dorm rooms where you're standing staying next to

500
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Speaker 2: each other, you're learning each other. You also know who

501
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: who has a tougher matchup. So if my gunners singled

502
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: or doubled single on the right side, doubled on the

503
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Speaker 2: left side, I traditionally will go, Okay, I need to

504
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Speaker 2: be paying attention to my single side. But if the

505
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: player the gunner is extremely good and that's why they're

506
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Speaker 2: doubling them, I still have to pay attention to him,

507
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have an outlier where someone gets

508
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: out of whack and maybe loses a little bit leverage.

509
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: So I'm constantly looking at the ball, at the flight

510
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: of the ball and while the flight is going, I'm

511
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: looking at the football as it spins. Is the nose

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: up which means it will continue to keep going? Or

513
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: is the nose starting to go down which means is

514
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: gonna fall? Is about to fall at that depth that

515
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: we know that the punter is usually hitting. And then

516
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: is it a left to right? Is it a right

517
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: footed punter, left foot of punter, right foot of punters spinning,

518
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna go to the right, But when it's left,

519
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: it actually falls and it goes to your left. Most

520
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: punters are right foot it, so that throws it off,

521
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: and it's a different spin, so it hits your hands

522
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: a little bit different. So it's a lot of calculated, detailedness.

523
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: That that's why the couch folks that watch football think

524
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: they could just get off the couch after a bear

525
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Speaker 2: and some wings and go do it.

526
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Speaker 1: It's not that easy. Were you a guy that when

527
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: you juke somebody out, you went whoop, yep, gotcha? Would

528
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Speaker 1: you ever talk while doing while making plays?

529
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Speaker 3: Oh?

530
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: I yes, I would. I definitely would would say some things.

531
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Speaker 2: I said more things inside of my head than out loud,

532
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: But then out loud would be after I make the play.

533
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: But it was more psychological thing and just you know,

534
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: going through my keys and going through all of those

535
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: things I need to do. So on a pump return,

536
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: I had to make sure that was eleven guys on

537
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: the field, you know, so just ten guys ahead of me,

538
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: because I would be the eleventh. It took me a

539
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: while to figure that out because when I first did it,

540
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 2: I almost called time out because we were short, and

541
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: they said they stupid. You need to count yourself. So

542
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: that's the requirement of the pump returner. And then just

543
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: kind of seeing everything. Is the return right is it left?

544
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Am I on a ten yard line? If I go

545
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: more than a step or two and a half steps,

546
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: that means I'm beyond the eight yard eight yards, which

547
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: means it is going to go onto the ball is

548
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: gonna go on the end zone. So I have to

549
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: be cautious of that. And I got to look up

550
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: by the distract the runners who are trying to down

551
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: it within the before it goes in the goal line

552
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: the end zone, and so now have to trick them.

553
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of steps that goes into it.

554
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: That is less about what you're saying out side to

555
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: people and it's more of how quickly can you go

556
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: through your checks list before the play goes on and

557
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: be able to have the right judgment call on the

558
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: pump return or catching the football.

559
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Speaker 1: What quarterback did you have the best chemistry with? Uh?

560
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Speaker 2: The one I mean the one I was with the

561
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: longest I was with Jake DeLoone, I think probably about

562
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: eight years. We grew up together, we made the playoffs together,

563
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: we went to the Super Bowl together, NC Championships together.

564
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: So athletically though, best quarterback obviously is Cam Newton, but

565
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, athletically gifty and spending time and growing into

566
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: this game with man, it's hard to just exit. It's

567
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: hard to just kind of cross out eight years of

568
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: experience to say, hey, man, I just had a more

569
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: athletic quarterback for three years. I don't think that's necessarily fair.

570
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Speaker 1: Who's the team to be in the AFC? Man?

571
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Speaker 2: I would? I want to say Jacksonville. I'm interested in

572
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: seeing how the Patriots are gonna do. I wouldn't be

573
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: shocked to the Chargers win and then but the Texans.

574
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Speaker 2: The Texans are one of those teams I'm really trying

575
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: to figure out who are they? Because defensively their top

576
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: notch offensively, they've had a lot of hiccups emotional roller coasters,

577
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 2: so I would have to go with I'm kind of

578
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: favoring the Jags or the Patriots.

579
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you the same thing about the NFC,

580
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Speaker 1: because again, both sides they're really I don't feel like

581
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: there's a team that's head and shoulders above everybody else.

582
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: But from what you've seen, who's the team on the

583
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: NFC side?

584
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, I think the Bears can shock some people. The

585
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: Packers were doing really good until Michael Parser's went down,

586
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: and they haven't been able to generate a lot of

587
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: sacks so that their defense has changed dramatically. The Rams,

588
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: let's see how they play the Panthers, who they played down.

589
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: Is this another game where Matthew Stafford has two touchdowns

590
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: and then they also give up fumble so it gives

591
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: more opportunity to the Carolina Panthers. And I'm intrigued to

592
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: see which Eagles offensively shows up, how Brock Perdy does

593
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: against the top tier defense like the Philadelphia Eagles. So

594
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm leaning towards I can see in the NFC Championship,

595
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: I can say the Bears and rams.

596
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: You gave me like eight teams there basically said every team.

597
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: You covered all bases there.

598
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: Now annalists and here, but here's why. Here, here's the

599
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: real truth. The real truth is if I don't mention

600
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: all these teams, the teams that I don't mention that

601
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: are playing, when I go to that game or I'm

602
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: on the sideline reporting, they will say something to me, oh,

603
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: I saw you picked U when Philly in Arizona, when

604
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: Philly was playing Kansas City Chiefs. I have picked on

605
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 2: like four different a couple of different on I would say, oh,

606
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: I got the Eagles, then that when I got I

607
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: got the Chiefs, and I'm so I'm doing some things

608
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl of the game, Patrick Strength, coach

609
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: and equipment manager. So you picked the Eagles, I said,

610
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: come on, bro, I went on another show and I

611
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: picked the Chiefs. He said, didn't hear that one. So

612
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: from now on, I'm I'm gonna make sure I hear

613
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: everything every team so I can make sure I'm good

614
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: because I still got to do my job. Man, I can't.

615
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: I can't have one team black balling because I didn't

616
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: pick them.

617
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Speaker 1: Whenever you're going into the Super Bowl, and there's that

618
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: two week break. Does that feel like an eternity after

619
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: you've been playing every week?

620
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: It is, It feels like an internity. But it also

621
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: allows you to get everything ready. There's a lot of

622
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: planning that that's involved, and you still have to practice.

623
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: So you have practice to get prepared for the Super Bowl,

624
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: biggest our, biggest event of the year. And yeah, you

625
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: got family members chomping at the bit of trying to

626
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: how they're going to figure out to get those tickets.

627
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: And when you go to Super Bowl, each player is

628
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: allowed a lot of so many tickets that you're paying for,

629
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: not for free, you're paying for So if you think

630
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: of you, I think ten tickets, or you get the

631
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: purchase ten tickets, well, you know it's the biggest game

632
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: and are and football is crazy popular. Well ten tickets

633
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: is is not enough tickets, so you try. So there's

634
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: a lot of botering and willing and dealing, dealing going

635
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: on amongst players on the teams that are going to see, hey,

636
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: are you going to use all of ten of your tickets?

637
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: You know how much you're gonna sell them to you?

638
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: And then you got a guy who starts to realize

639
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: that he got a hot commodity, and so he starts

640
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: to uh the price that he said for face value.

641
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Now he maybe tries to get extra hundred bucks. So

642
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: it becomes a lot of willing and dealing going.

643
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: On with the halftime show making a longer halftime. Did

644
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: you feel that during the Super Bowl?

645
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: Uh? No, you don't go by so fast. Don't feel

646
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: any in that. It seems short.

647
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember who played your halftime show when you

648
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: guys play the Broncos.

649
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: I do, because it was some teen years ago, because

650
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: it was the infamous justin Timberlay.

651
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh that was the halftime show?

652
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: Then?

653
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you now do you even hear about that

654
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: during the second half at all?

655
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: No, we didn't unless you have you're listening to the broadcast. No, man,

656
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: and I'm on the field, so I don't. I don't

657
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Speaker 2: have broadcasting ears to listen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if he did, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question though.

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Speaker 3: That was crazy for that was.

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Speaker 1: Such a cultural moment. I didn't know if maybe word

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Speaker 1: got back like Janet Jackson's nipple was just shown at halftime?

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Speaker 2: No? Never, Uh never went across our place. Sheet were

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Speaker 2: sitting in the Nipple were sitting there in the huddle

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Speaker 2: and they're going, hey, did you know what happened at halftime?

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Speaker 2: That that never happened.

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Speaker 1: But a little bit though, Let's say in a game,

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Speaker 1: if something like you see somebody in the stands, like

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Speaker 1: you see Samuel L. Jackson's here, Adam Sandler's here, like

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Speaker 1: you semover and row three, you guys talk about that

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Speaker 1: in the huddle, right, we may talk.

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Speaker 3: About a huddle.

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Speaker 2: If you run out of bounds, it's really hard to

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Speaker 2: see and you kind of see the celebrities before the game,

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Speaker 2: touring the game, you're so locked in you're trying not

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Speaker 2: to pay attention to it. So when someone does say something,

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: Talk about your podcast for a second. What are you

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Speaker 1: guys talking about on cut to It?

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Speaker 2: Oh Man? So cut to It? I switched the name

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Speaker 2: from cut to It at the eighty nine just recently.

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Speaker 2: But we just talked about football, everything that's going on

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Speaker 2: currently right now, talking about the Carolina Panthers and then

686
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Speaker 2: John Hardball getting fired. That we did that one on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night just because the news came Tuesday morning, because

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Speaker 2: the news came so early, and it was surprising. Then obviously,

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Speaker 2: like today with Mike McDaniels, what does that look like?

690
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Speaker 2: So we talk about everything about football, and then right now,

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Speaker 2: when the playoffs starting, the Super Bowl combine, I'll start

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Speaker 2: getting in the nitty gritty of a valuating these wide

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Speaker 2: receivers that are coming out. It's a ton of wire receivers,

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Speaker 2: a ton of guys. So I do a little breakdown

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Speaker 2: on them, what I like, what I think they need

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Speaker 2: to work on. And that's been pretty successful and I enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: I love watching film still, so it kind of gives

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Speaker 2: so it lets me kind of geek out and I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: So it's called eighty nine. Now you change your name?

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Speaker 2: Yep, the eighty nine show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the eighty nine show. That's much easier than

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Speaker 1: just typing in eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah either, No, it's the number eighty nine. So we

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Speaker 2: gotta you know, we got you gotta kiss. Keep it simple, Steve. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So eight eighty nine on YouTube, all right, and it's

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Speaker 2: and it's it's yellow and it has the number eight nine.

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Speaker 1: Like the number eighty nine. Absolutely, yeah, number le's make

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Speaker 1: it sure.

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Speaker 3: Eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you were there.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look, I appreciate the time we got. We mentioned

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Speaker 1: every team. You're covered your every every you can't go

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Speaker 1: on a sideline without them being like Steve Smith, you

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Speaker 1: said our team. We appreciate that you can follow Steve

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Speaker 1: at Steve Smith Senior eighty nine like his show eighty

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Speaker 1: nine show on YouTube. All right, Steve, we really appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time. I am big fan, so thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for spending some time.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Alright, have me on again.

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Speaker 1: All right, we will. All right, let's build the college

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Speaker 1: football parlay here with DraftKings tonight, Miami minus three versus

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Speaker 1: ole Miss. I feel like my heart is weighing too

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Speaker 1: much on me here. I really want ole Miss to

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Speaker 1: win because I want ole Miss to win at all,

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Speaker 1: because I want ole Miss to win at all with

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Speaker 1: a different coach. I don't even like ole Miss. I

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Speaker 1: don't hate All Miss, but I have no affiliation. I

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Speaker 1: like that doesn't really happen as much as it used to.

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Speaker 1: That's not why I'm rooting for all Miss. I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for ole Miss because I love the disaster of they

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Speaker 1: win a national championship without their coach who left them

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Speaker 1: because he could win a national championship somewhere else. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go over fifty two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, smart, Okay, good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have too much of a bias.

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Speaker 3: Yep, And when you bet, that's kind of what you

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Speaker 3: want to do. Take that bias out.

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Speaker 1: If I go to Friday Night Oregon in Indiana, I

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Speaker 1: think Oregon wins the game. Straight up. Let's go anytime

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Speaker 1: in my life. Well, most times that people are well,

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Speaker 1: this is a for sure thing in sports, Yes, it

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Speaker 3: Like when all the commentators pick the same team, it's

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Speaker 3: not good.

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Speaker 1: Like when you say the Cowboys are for sure gonna win,

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Speaker 1: they almost always lose.

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Speaker 3: It's not always.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Oregon plus three and a half. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm hedging my bet there.

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Speaker 3: But see that in that one kind of a heart

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Speaker 1: No, because I don't have a heart in this. I

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Speaker 1: really don't care. Okay, I think I think Oregon can

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Speaker 1: win that game. But I'm gonna go Oregon plus three

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Speaker 1: and a half. I think that's going to be the parlay.

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Speaker 1: Do I need to do three?

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Speaker 5: Well, you need to hit the was it three seventy

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Speaker 5: five mics?

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Speaker 1: Is that it is plus seventy five odds?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 1: But over forty eight and a half? I never bet unders.

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Speaker 3: Over forty eight and a half on the second.

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Speaker 1: In Indiana's got a really good defense.

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Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, so does Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, screw it. We're going overs on both Okay and

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Speaker 1: Okay, NFL wise Saturday Night Rams at Panthers, No spread

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Speaker 1: Rams at Panthers, no heart, Just who's gonna win?

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Speaker 3: No spread Rams are gonna win that? Okay, no brainer.

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: Packers at Bears. What's surprising to me is that the

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Speaker 1: Packers are a favorite on the road. The Bears are healthy,

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Speaker 1: the Packers obviously aren't. Yeah, I agree, their best player

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Speaker 1: isn't playing. Michael Parson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Bears win.

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Speaker 3: Same Bears.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, What what do they know? The Packers

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Speaker 1: have been there before, at least played in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but played.

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Speaker 2: Like a month.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I'm thinking, Like, do they know that?

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Speaker 1: But their favorite on the road? They don't trust Caleb

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Speaker 1: uh Sunday Chargers that I'm gonna take the Packers?

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Speaker 3: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I figure, look at you three and I'm

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Speaker 1: like idiot, and I lost twenty four thousand dollars. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Chargers at Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Patriots, diehard?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we need them. I'll go Patriots, Bills and Jags.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Bills. I'm going at Josh Allen. Yeah, same,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Bills need this one. I feel

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Speaker 3: like this is the Bill's year.

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Speaker 5: So yes, like Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: No, I just feel like the Bills for the first

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Speaker 3: time don't have the Chiefs in the way, you know,

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Speaker 3: so they can do it this time.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers at Eagles. I'm surprised at Eagles. And again, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking spread, so I'm surprised the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. I get it. The

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers have lost their stars on defense, but

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Speaker 1: they've been gone for a while for defense does suck?

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Speaker 1: Forty nine ers of the Eagles. I'm going forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers Yeah, same, Yeah, I could also have a massive

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Speaker 1: future on them. Yeah, so we had so probably my

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Speaker 1: heart talking there. Oh that's what you meant by heart earlier.

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Speaker 3: The heart?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, forty nine ers really yeah.

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Speaker 1: Brandon say forty Eddie, please pick the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: This hurts me, but I don't have to pick one guy,

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Speaker 3: got perfect.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: We're all good then, Texas and Steelers on Monday Night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go Texans.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Steelers. I feel like that's such

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Speaker 1: a slam dunk Texans win, but I think I think

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Speaker 1: the Steelers can do it. Is it is in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers got so lucky to be there.

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Speaker 5: They're so hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: They won the games they needed to win.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's just they wouldn't have been ugly division.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it was. Same thing with the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: That's the ugliest division.

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Speaker 3: Ugly kick is what it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucked. Now let's get over to former Ohio

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Speaker 1: State and NFL running back Beanie Wells. Beanie played for

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Speaker 1: Ohio State from six to eight. Had sixteen thousand yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's right, right. The comment was putting the wrong

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Speaker 1: place on this, but it's sixteen thousand yards rushing, right,

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Speaker 1: that's got to be it is that it fifteen There's

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Speaker 1: no way that's all. There's no way that's the type

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Speaker 1: on me. Okay, one million, six hundred thousand yards rush.

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Speaker 3: That's better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it. Now, how many yards Beanie Wells

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Speaker 1: have leave this in? By the way, of course, fifteen touchdowns?

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just had sixteen sixteen hundred yards and fifteen

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Speaker 1: touchdowns and twenty two thousand and seven. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 5: Sixteen hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Screw it. He had sixteen thousand rushing yards and I

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Speaker 1: saw six that way. Yeah. He was drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals thirty first overall. He set the Cardinals director with

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Speaker 1: two hundred twenty eight yards in a game. You can

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Speaker 1: now follow him on Twitter at Beanie Wells twenty six

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Speaker 1: to keep up with this work. Let's talk with him

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Speaker 1: now here. He is Beanie Wells. Hey, Beanie, I was

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Speaker 1: checking out your podcast, which is it's on Ohio State

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Speaker 1: right called The Script.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yep.

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Speaker 1: So what what's interesting to me is I want to

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Speaker 1: play it in this basketball like camp once as an adult.

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Speaker 1: So it's like guys just trying to like relive whatever

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Speaker 1: shred of athleticism they had back in the day. And

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Speaker 1: your partner, Cardlal Jones was in it too, and he

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Speaker 1: dominated everybody. It was so annoying. He was dunking. He

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that, tell him that when

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Speaker 1: he came to Arkansas and played that basketball, he was

876
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: dunking on everybody and I was like, man, you guys

877
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: just don't lose it. Do you still have that twitch

878
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: in you as well?

879
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 7: I don't. I wish I did. I can tell you

880
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 7: one thing about Cardell. Anytime he's in any type of competition,

881
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 7: you know he's going to go full force no matter

882
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 7: who he's going against. There was a situation to where,

883
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 7: you know, he was at the Ohio State James Hospital

884
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 7: visiting kids that had cancer and one of the kids

885
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 7: wanted to play Men Madden. In that Madden game, Cardio

886
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 7: took no prisoners. He beat the kid like seventy to nothing.

887
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 7: It's most ridiculous thing in the world.

888
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the time. Everybody check out the script.

889
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: It's podcast on Ohio State. Hey, what did you say?

890
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: What were your takeaways from that game against Miami.

891
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: Oh?

892
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: It was brutal.

893
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 7: It was very brutal. I mean in Miami they were

894
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 7: so dominant the point of contact. You have to love

895
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 7: the pass rus that they have in Reuben Bann and

896
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: the key messador buff for Ohio State. You know, as

897
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 7: a former Buckeye and as a Buckeye fan watching that game,

898
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 7: I was kind of in dismay the fact that we

899
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 7: couldn't pick up the blitz. We couldn't figure out ways

900
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: to get the ball out quick and manufacture some type

901
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 7: of offense on a consistent basis. It was dis hardening

902
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 7: to see because I thought this was a year Ohio

903
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: State was trending in that Georgia type direction to where

904
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 7: they'd be making a statement as being back to back

905
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 7: national championships and going on and you know, making a

906
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 7: run to create this dynasty. But unfortunately they came up short,

907
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 7: but Miami played their tails off.

908
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: You played for coach Trussell, But can you give me

909
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: some maybe some some commentary on Ryan Day and why

910
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: you think he is the guy for Ohio State.

911
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: I love Ryande.

912
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 7: I think he's the perfect mix between Jim Trussell and

913
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 7: irber Meyer.

914
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 4: He can be a feiighty guy.

915
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 7: He comes across as a very nice individual, but you know,

916
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 7: behind closed doors, he gets after his players. He makes

917
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 7: sure that those guys are prepared. And you know, one

918
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 7: of the things that he has that a lot of

919
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 7: people don't get a chance to see is that edge.

920
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 7: That edge to you know, make sure guys are in

921
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 7: the right mental space because he is He's going to

922
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 7: be and he's preaching that to his players on a

923
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 7: consistent basis. But then when you go look at that

924
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 7: the ex's no's Ryan days, teams are always prepared, and

925
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 7: you know him being a former offensive coordinator, he dials

926
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 7: up offenses with the best. Now, unfortunately versus Miami it

927
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 7: didn't show. But when you go look at this track record,

928
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: you know he's always had Ohio State in contention to

929
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 7: win a national championship down the stretch at the end

930
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 7: of the year. And I think that's what you want

931
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 7: out of a coach, to have your team in it

932
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: in the thick of things when it matters most, and

933
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 7: he's done just that.

934
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask one other Ohio State question. And

935
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: you played with Brian Hartline and then he obviously was

936
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: coaching on the staff. He just took over the job

937
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: at USF. What do you think about him as a

938
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: head coach? What did you think about hims a player?

939
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Can you give me both of those?

940
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

941
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 7: No, the Heartline is an overachiever as a player, and

942
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 7: he's one of those.

943
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: Guys that's always going to have an edge.

944
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 7: He always played with a chip on the shoulder and

945
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: that was the same way that you saw him coaching

946
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 7: at Ohio State. You know, you saw him go out

947
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 7: and be able to go and get the four and

948
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 7: five stars guys at the receiver position at an insane clip,

949
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 7: but not only get those.

950
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: Guys, but develop them.

951
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 7: You talk about his track record of a who's who

952
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 7: in the National Football League right now, you talk about

953
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 7: a Mecca and BUCA. You know, the list goes on,

954
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 7: Chris Wilson, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson.

955
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: I mean, the list goes on and on. Mart Harrison Junior.

956
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 7: He developed all of those guys, and it's doing part

957
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 7: to the edge and the chip on his shoulder that he.

958
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: Always had and that dates back to high school.

959
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 7: Hardline felt like he was a guy that was overlooked,

960
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 7: even though he did in getting our scholarship to go

961
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 7: to Ohio State. He felt like there were a lot

962
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 7: of guys always talked about more than him. So he

963
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 7: approaches the game from a different perspective, like his back

964
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 7: is against the wall, and I think he's going to

965
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 7: do a heck of a job down there.

966
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: USF.

967
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: What about you.

968
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Growing up an Acron did you feel like you had

969
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: to go to Ohio State?

970
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: Initially? I did.

971
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 7: Growing up, I had family and there's a small portion

972
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 7: of Acron that are Michigan fans, So you know, you

973
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: have people that are Michigan fans and that you know,

974
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 7: growing up in the nineties, ohiose they didn't farewell versus

975
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 7: the University of Michigan. So me being a Buckeye fan,

976
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, I gotta go and

977
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 7: avenge some of this. So when I got the opportunity

978
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 7: to go to ohiose that it was certainly the case

979
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 7: that I started for our wanted to go. Growing up

980
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 7: a fan and not seeing them beat the arts rival,

981
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 7: you had a nascy tation in Mouth. But there was

982
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 7: a situation to where, you know, as I'm being recruited,

983
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 7: I take a trip out to Los Angeles and you know,

984
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 7: go visit USC when Pete Carroll is, you know, dominating

985
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 7: college football.

986
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: And there was a brief moment in.

987
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 7: Me that was going to USC because I mean, what

988
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 7: sixteen seventeen year old kid doesn't love the lights of

989
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 7: Los Angeles, especially when you got the USC.

990
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: Who's running the world out there.

991
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 7: There's no professional football team, so those guys Matt Lioner,

992
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 7: Reggie Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, those guys were it in that town.

993
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 7: So you know, there was a small portion of me

994
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: that was going to USC when I went out there

995
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 7: on my visit.

996
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Did you ever committ to you? S see?

997
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: I did, I really did.

998
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: So.

999
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 7: Crazy thing is I committed to USC while I was

1000
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 7: still committed Ohio State. But my mom shut that down

1001
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 7: so quick. My mom got the I literally called my parents.

1002
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 7: We're off the breakfast with Coach Carroll, and I'm like,

1003
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 7: I'm com coming here. I'm telling him I'm going there.

1004
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 7: I called my parents, my mom and my dad, and

1005
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 7: my dad I tell them I'm going to USC.

1006
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: He chuckles. He passes the phone.

1007
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 7: To my mom and I say I'm going to USC,

1008
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 7: and then she gives me an ear full and says,

1009
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 7: give Coach Carroll the phone. And all I see is

1010
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 7: face starting to turn red. And I'm like, well, what

1011
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 7: did she say to you? She said, take you back

1012
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 7: to the airport immediately. So that was my short, brief,

1013
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 7: ten minute commitment to USC.

1014
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: Where else did you visit?

1015
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: So I didn't go to a lot of places.

1016
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 7: I went to the University of Michigan, went to Ohio State,

1017
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 7: and USC. That was it, you know. Once I committed

1018
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 7: to Ohio State, it was a kind of a deal

1019
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 7: between me and coach Trussell. Well, you can go to

1020
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 7: one more place to visit and see what you like.

1021
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 7: And you know, I think he kind of knew my

1022
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 7: parents wouldn't let me go all the way across the

1023
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 7: world to go to college, so he was like, yeah,

1024
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 7: go visit usc goes check out what LA has to offer.

1025
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: And that was the one other place that I went.

1026
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: I still think I have a bit of brand bias

1027
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: unfairly against Indiana, even after watching them be awesome, be dominant.

1028
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: I've just seen them for so many years not be

1029
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean I've not seen a coach like Signetti come

1030
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: in and completely shift a program in two years like

1031
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: he has there Indiana, they are the favorite to win

1032
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing. What do you see from them that

1033
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: makes them so strong?

1034
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean they are complete football team.

1035
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 7: You know, we talk so much about, you know, Fernanda Mendoza,

1036
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 7: but you know it's not just Fananda Mendoza and what

1037
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 7: he's able to do in the past game.

1038
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: They have a great offensive line.

1039
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 7: They got a two headed monster, you know, and blacking

1040
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 7: him be in the running back at the running backs position.

1041
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 7: But then on the defensive side, I mean, they get

1042
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: pressure like no other team in the country, and they're

1043
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 7: not talked about because there isn't that one dominant pass

1044
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 7: rusher that you see winning all the college football awards.

1045
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 7: I mean, they're complete football team. And you know, it's

1046
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 7: been nothing short of amazing to watch a coach coming

1047
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 7: to a program that has been essential doormat for college

1048
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 7: football for so many years and resurrected and not only resurrected,

1049
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 7: but resurrected to the point in which he's had them

1050
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 7: in the highest points in college football, the College Football

1051
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 7: Playoff the last couple of years, and I think they're

1052
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 7: probably going to win a national championship. I mean this story,

1053
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 7: I mean, he's gonna have a statue when it's all

1054
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 7: said and done outside in Bloomington, Indiana because of what

1055
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 7: he's been able to do there at that program.

1056
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 4: But I'm it's been crazy.

1057
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 7: I mean, they're so good at every single position, and

1058
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 7: it's doing part to one Kerkcineti for him going out

1059
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 7: and finding the right guys in the portal. You know,

1060
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 7: we hear so many people talk about the portal, but

1061
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 7: it's not an exact sign to us. But he most

1062
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 7: certainly hasn't figured out because he's getting the right guys

1063
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 7: to be able to come into his program and be

1064
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 7: able to deliver.

1065
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Right now, they're killing in the portal right now, but

1066
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: fairly because they've been really good the last couple of

1067
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: years and they can now pitch that with money. But

1068
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: year one it brought a lot of his JMU guys.

1069
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't that they had a ton of money. It

1070
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: wasn't that they had established a winning culture that people

1071
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: knew about. How the heck has he done this?

1072
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 7: I mean, I would say it goes back to the

1073
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: culture in which he had at JMU. He brought in

1074
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 7: guys that were familiar with the way that he did things,

1075
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 7: guys that were big time playmakers and Loja Zerat is

1076
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 7: one of those guys that's still on the roster right

1077
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 7: now in Indiana killing it. But when you bring in

1078
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 7: guys that understand the way you want to do things,

1079
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 7: now as a coach, you don't necessarily have to do

1080
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 7: it all on your own because these players can speak

1081
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 7: to the locker room, they can speak to the other players,

1082
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 7: they can kind of gobbanize and get those guys infatuated

1083
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 7: with the way that you do things and knowing that

1084
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 7: it's going to lead to the ultimate success because look,

1085
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 7: he won at the other programs. And now if I'm

1086
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 7: a guy that was on Jmlu's roster, I can tell

1087
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 7: him newbie on Indiana's roster, like, all we have to

1088
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 7: do is listen and buy it.

1089
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: And it works.

1090
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 7: And when you have other people in the locker room

1091
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 7: preaching that same message, I mean, that thing makes everything

1092
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 7: cohesively and it makes everything jail so much easier. But

1093
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 7: it's crazy, it's wild to see because we haven't seen

1094
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 7: anything like it in college football. A guy that come

1095
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 7: in from a smaller program go up to the big

1096
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 7: leagues essentially and dominate in the fashion in which he's did.

1097
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 7: I mean, one of the all time great coaching stories

1098
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 7: that we'll see in college football history.

1099
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been odd, but refreshingly odd because and I've

1100
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: compared it to in a different way, Adrian Peterson bouncing

1101
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: back from injury so fast that it actually showed you

1102
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: could do it. And so then fairly or unfairly, people

1103
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: were trying to match themselves to that standard. Like Adrian

1104
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Peterson's back, He's running the ball months after he was injured.

1105
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: They let people know, now all these coaches are getting

1106
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: compared to Signetti fairly or unfairly because he came in

1107
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: and changed that word that's thrown around so much culture.

1108
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: Have you been and I don't want you to say

1109
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: any name if you don't want to. Have you been

1110
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: in bad cultures before?

1111
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1112
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 7: You know, when you play football, we played any sport

1113
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 7: for a long period of time, You're going to experience it.

1114
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 7: And you know, the one thing that you can't let

1115
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 7: happen with the culture is once you start losing the

1116
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 7: locker room, you start losing some of your veteran players,

1117
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 7: that stuff starts to trickle down, and everybody starts to

1118
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 7: kind of, you know, start questioning the system and start

1119
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 7: trying to, you know, figure out their own way. And

1120
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 7: once you know, people start figuring out their own way,

1121
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 7: I mean, nobody's yelling together.

1122
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: Nobody's together.

1123
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 7: So that's the most awful thing that can happen to

1124
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 7: a program, is you lose the locker room and you

1125
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 7: lose your veteran leadership.

1126
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 4: That can go south really quick.

1127
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the portal. I feel like it's a

1128
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: wild West. I'm sure you do too. That the story

1129
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: that I was thinking about this morning was the Williams kid,

1130
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback at Washington, and you know, he signs four

1131
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: million bucks a year, they've pretty much said that's what

1132
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: it was. Now, he signed the paper work, and then

1133
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: now it's like, hey, uls, she was offered him six

1134
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: so he wants to go to LSU now, And that

1135
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: is just's that's representative of kind of what's happening now.

1136
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it is definitely on the polar side of

1137
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: it if somebody who signs and then probably gets poached

1138
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we'll give you even more money. Like,

1139
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts in general on what the porter?

1140
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: I think players should be paid, first of all, I

1141
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: think absolutely players should be paid, but there's got to

1142
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: be some sort of boundary, right one hundred percent.

1143
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly think they should be paid as well.

1144
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 7: But when we talk about you know, guys, you know,

1145
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 7: agreeing to something and then you know, all of a

1146
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 7: sudden voting thinking they're gonna get more dollars and going

1147
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 7: to greener pastors, I mean, I think that's where we

1148
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 7: have to, you.

1149
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: Know, get this thing reeled in a little bit. And

1150
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: obviously on one end.

1151
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 7: We see it with coaches too, because coaches, you know,

1152
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 7: can leave and go to a different program for more dollars,

1153
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 7: I e.

1154
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: Langkiff and ole Miss.

1155
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I mean when it comes to the portal,

1156
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 7: we don't necessarily even talk about the fact that a

1157
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: lot of these kids, if you don't pan out after

1158
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 7: that one year, you may be pushed back into the portal.

1159
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 7: So I think, you know, there has to be some collecting,

1160
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 7: collective bargaining agreement that is in place for these guys

1161
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 7: and not only protect the players, but protect the university,

1162
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 7: because if I shell out, you know, four million dollars,

1163
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 7: I want to know that this guy is going to

1164
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 7: be committed to this program, will not leave me after

1165
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 7: a year and after he has a great year, just

1166
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 7: because the program says we're going to give him two

1167
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 7: more million dollars. Now, let it be a situation to

1168
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 7: Rock can come and necessarily up my contract that I'm

1169
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 7: offering a kid before he says, you know what, I'm

1170
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 7: leaving and going elsewhere.

1171
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: I don't like that standpoint of it. I think there

1172
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: needs to be some rules.

1173
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 7: To rein it in on both phases to protect both

1174
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 7: the player and the university, because nobody wants to be

1175
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 7: left in the dark, and then in the flip side,

1176
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 7: nobody wants to be pushed out if I don't necessarily

1177
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 7: live up to the contract you gave me the year before, you.

1178
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Bring up something really interesting, and I think we saw

1179
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: with the receiver at Texas who is now going to Oklahoma.

1180
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: He basically said, hey, I was pushed out. Like it's

1181
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: it's not all just players going hey, I want to

1182
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: leave for more. Some point, players are getting in the

1183
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: portal because the coaches are going, we don't have a

1184
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: spot for you anymore. You got to get in the portal.

1185
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: And I think there has to be something there too,

1186
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: right to protect players.

1187
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: Have no question about it.

1188
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 7: I mean, just imagine if you are, you got a kid,

1189
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 7: and you trusting You're trusting a coach and a program

1190
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 7: to say, you know what, my son's going to commit

1191
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: to you, and we're going to expect you to go

1192
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 7: develop my son not only to be a great football player,

1193
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 7: to be a great young man, to be a great student.

1194
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, the program isn't winning

1195
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 7: and we're trying to figure out ways as a program

1196
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 7: to go out and get players that are going to

1197
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 7: help us win. Right now, your son is going to

1198
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 7: be exiled because he is a player that's making an

1199
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 7: impact right now because he didn't develop soon enough.

1200
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: Like I don't want that. I wouldn't want that as

1201
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: a parent. I mean nobody would.

1202
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 7: So you know, you have to put in some rules

1203
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 7: and parameters to protect these student athletes. If we're still

1204
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 7: going to call them student athletes, right, if you're still

1205
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 7: going to have the expectation, see for these guys to

1206
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 7: go to school and go to class and to be students,

1207
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 7: you still have to protect him some way in former fashion.

1208
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 7: I don't want my kid to be pushed out just

1209
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 7: because he is a producer right now for you, because

1210
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 7: he's still a young kid.

1211
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: He still needs time to develop.

1212
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 7: He knows he needs to figure out how to be

1213
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 7: a student athlete but also be a young adult in

1214
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 7: the same sense. And it's not easy, especially in this

1215
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 7: day and age, in this climate where it's become more

1216
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 7: about winning and dollars than anything.

1217
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: The timing of the portal opening is terrible. I think

1218
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: everybody agrees on that. I mean, you have running backs

1219
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: at Oregon hopping in the portal. They're still in the tournament.

1220
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: If you were the commissioner of college football, like, what

1221
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: is the one thing you would do with the portal

1222
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: to at least give it some sort of semblance of

1223
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: it being collective and unified and working.

1224
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 7: Not even just with the portal, but I think just

1225
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 7: with everything that we've experienced this year with college football,

1226
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 7: from the coaching changes to the portal to signing Day,

1227
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 7: I think we need to bump this thing up. We

1228
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: need to move the schedule up to where it's a

1229
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: clearcut date to where we're going to be done by,

1230
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 7: to where the por opens after the season and you

1231
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 7: can take a new job after the college football season.

1232
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 7: Make this thing done in the early part of January

1233
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 7: to where we're not faced with these situations, to where

1234
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 7: a Lane Kiffin has to decide on if I can

1235
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: finish up my college football season where I'm mad at

1236
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 7: Old Miss and still be able to take a job

1237
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 7: elsewhere and finish up a recruiting class, or go out

1238
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 7: and get the portal guys that I need to help

1239
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 7: me for the following season. So I think it's a

1240
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 7: whole college football issue. It's not just a porter issue.

1241
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 7: But they most certainly have to fix this calendar if

1242
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 7: they don't want these issues to continue to be a

1243
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 7: problem and for us to face. We're sitting here talking

1244
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 7: about this issues next year.

1245
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: We can't.

1246
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 7: It's too much money at stake. It's too much at

1247
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 7: stake for this to be an issue when it's a

1248
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 7: simple fix.

1249
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is playing with their new head coach, but

1250
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: obviously he wasn't the head coach all year, and they're

1251
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: old coaches at LSU right now, and that makes me

1252
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: root for Ole Miss. I would love to see All

1253
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: Miss with I'm not a Miss fan, as a matter

1254
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: of fact, I don't like Ole Miss because I'm an

1255
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: Arkansas guy. But I'm rooting for hole Mess because I

1256
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: would love to see Lane Kiffin leave for a team

1257
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: he thinks can win a national championship and watch his

1258
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: team win a national championship. As someone who doesn't live

1259
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: in SC country, what are your feelings on Old Mess?

1260
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: Are you rooting for them or against them?

1261
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Gee?

1262
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 4: I'm routed for Old Miss, no question about it.

1263
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 7: I think it's like between Indiana and Old Miss, they're

1264
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 7: the best stories in college football, right. I mean, I

1265
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 7: honestly couldn't believe Lane Kiffin decided to vote and go

1266
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 7: to LSU when he shown right now you couldn't win

1267
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 7: an Old Miss. You can get the guys you can

1268
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 7: get the players, and they're essentially going to give you

1269
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 7: the money to go out and get more.

1270
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: Players and give you everything that you need.

1271
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 7: At you're disposed to win, and you decide to go

1272
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: to a program at LSU where the expectation is going

1273
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 7: to be so much higher.

1274
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: It didn't make sense to me. It didn't make sense.

1275
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 7: At the end of the season this year, he would

1276
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 7: have had a statue at Old Miss and been riding

1277
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 7: high forever, and then he would have been able to

1278
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: go out and get recruits at a high rate that

1279
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 7: he wasn't before at Old Miss.

1280
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: I mean, it just made no sense.

1281
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 7: The issue that I have, especially with him going to LSU,

1282
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 7: if he doesn't win in three or four years, he's

1283
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 7: going to be on the hot seat and he's going

1284
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 7: to be scratching his head saying did I make the

1285
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 7: right decision? Hell, he may even be scratching his head

1286
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 7: at the end of the year LSU or Ole Miss

1287
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 7: wins a national championship saying if I made the right decision.

1288
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: Carnel Te just said he's going to the NFL. What

1289
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: advice do you give new guys going in from what

1290
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: your experience was.

1291
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: One enjoy the process.

1292
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 7: You know, you're getting the opportunity to live out a

1293
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 7: lifelong dream, so take it for that, but also understand

1294
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 7: that this is a business. Understand that there's certain expectations

1295
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 7: of you that may be weren't of you at the

1296
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 7: college ranks, and you're going into this and you have

1297
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 7: to understand that it's a business first, and you are

1298
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 7: the captain of your ship, meaning you call the shots.

1299
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: Don't let you know agent or you know, some.

1300
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 7: Marketing guy kind of force you in a certain direction.

1301
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 7: Understand the narrative that you want for yourself and the

1302
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 7: path that you want to go with your career, and

1303
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 7: that you are at the Ham. You're the captain of

1304
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 7: this boat and you drive it in a direction that

1305
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 7: you want to go in.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question just about you

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Speaker 1: in high school because I'm always so interested in guys

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Speaker 1: who were number one. You were the top running back

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Speaker 1: out of high school, which is awesome, and yeah, congratulations

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Speaker 1: on that retro. Was it just wild in the stands

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Speaker 1: to see all the scouts or all the coaches always there,

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Speaker 1: or the fan I mean it had to be crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: Was it about you a lot when you were in

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Speaker 1: high school?

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Speaker 7: It was from my junior year to my senior year.

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Speaker 7: It definitely was, and it was it was a whirlwin.

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Speaker 7: It was a crazy time. I mean, this is when

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Speaker 7: you know, recruiting magazines and recruiting pundits were really starting

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Speaker 7: to get popular, right, so you know, all of those

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Speaker 7: guys were at the games, and you know, I felt

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Speaker 7: like after the game, I was doing I don't know,

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Speaker 7: six seven interviews and then obviously you had the scouts there.

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Speaker 7: So it was a fun time. It was a wild

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Speaker 7: time because it was all new to me and my

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Speaker 7: family for that matter. But nonetheless, it was a great opportunity.

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Speaker 7: And looking back on that, man, I wish I would

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Speaker 7: have enjoyed it a little bit more because you really

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Speaker 7: never know how fast that time period goes. I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, I was twenty some add years ago, and

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Speaker 7: it literally feels like it was yesterday. So I most

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Speaker 7: certainly wish I would have taken it in and enjoyed

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Speaker 7: it a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: But it was a fun time. It was most certainly,

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Speaker 4: you know, fun seeing Jim Trussell.

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Speaker 7: Lloyd Carr, the urban mares of the world at your school,

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Speaker 7: at your game, you know, walking through your halls and

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Speaker 7: then all of the other kids in the school.

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Speaker 4: Pointing and seeing, Oh, they're talking to Beanie right there.

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Speaker 4: It was an amazing time.

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Speaker 1: Was your mailbox just full?

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00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely was.

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Speaker 7: I mean my mom still has tubs of, you know,

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Speaker 7: the letters that I got in college, and now my

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Speaker 7: son's getting an opportunity to read them. And as they're

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Speaker 7: going through the recruiting ranks, they're comparing their letters to

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Speaker 7: the letters that I was getting in college.

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Speaker 4: So it's the fun time.

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Speaker 1: What advice are you giving them as they're going through

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Speaker 1: the process.

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Man, just work, you know, I'm telling them all the time.

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Speaker 7: Just keep working. I mean, things will come and you know,

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Speaker 7: you'll end up where you're often supposed to be, But

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Speaker 7: you have to put in the work because without it,

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're going to be nothing, and there's always

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Speaker 7: going to be somebody out working. You are working just

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Speaker 7: as hard as you think you are, so just keep working.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, let me ask your one final question about the NFL. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you played in Arizona. You crushed it there. What's happening there?

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Speaker 1: They just fired their coach. I guess what he's talking about. Culture?

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Speaker 1: Did they have it?

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look like it right now. Most certainly.

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Speaker 7: I mean, especially when you're in a situation to where

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Speaker 7: you're running through multiple coaches, you're running through multiple gms

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Speaker 7: and people in the front office.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough task.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to build a culture when you don't have

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Speaker 7: that continuity upstairs in the front office. And I think

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Speaker 7: right now that's what we're seeing. I mean, they're not

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Speaker 7: giving guys a lot of time to win, and that's

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Speaker 7: all it is. International Football League in general. They want

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Speaker 7: to win right now. So you're getting two two to

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Speaker 7: three years to go out and develop a program, build

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Speaker 7: a culture, and expect it to win.

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Speaker 4: And that's a hard task. But it starts in the

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Speaker 4: front office, you know.

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Speaker 7: I think when Steve Kahin was there where he was

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Speaker 7: at the GM position, they were winning games. They were

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Speaker 7: doing a really good job and retaining players and bringing

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Speaker 7: players in from the free agency aspect. And right now

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Speaker 7: they just haven't been able to get it done. And

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Speaker 7: I think it starts upstairs. They have to figure out

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Speaker 7: the right guys and the right pieces to the puzzle.

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Speaker 7: And Bidwill who's the owner. He's a great owner. He's

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Speaker 7: willing to give, you know, the GM and the coaching

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Speaker 7: staff whatever they need to win, but it has to,

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Speaker 7: you know, start with whoever they choose at the GM position.

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Speaker 1: Over on Twitter, Beanie Wells twenty six, Hey, your CBS

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Speaker 1: analysis really good. I don't know how long you've been

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Speaker 1: doing this, but we were coming on. I went to

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Speaker 1: watch a lot of your clips, like you're really coming

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Speaker 1: into it. You enjoy that.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I love it, man, is the best thing in

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Speaker 7: the world for me. I mean, growing up. Obviously I

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Speaker 7: wanted to play in the National Football League. That was

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Speaker 7: a dream of mine. But secondly it was to you know,

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Speaker 7: talk about the sport for a living. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm fortunate enough to be able to do that as

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Speaker 7: something that's fun to me because I actually love college football,

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Speaker 7: so it's not even like work to me whatsoever. That's

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Speaker 7: why I'm always honed in and doubting what's going on

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Speaker 1: I bean you really appreciates the time. Was a big

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Speaker 1: fan of you when you played. And yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the games tonight, as far as

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Speaker 1: I actually watch them, what do you think about Michael

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: Irvin and Miami Because he's become a bit of the face. Yes,

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01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: like with his antics and I.

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Speaker 3: Love Michael Irvin, Cowboys Cowboys fan miacke Levin's a cowboy

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Speaker 3: man like I love the dude.

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Speaker 1: It's a little too much to me. Mean, woop belt woopen.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking even like watching the games and between every play,

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Speaker 3: let's see what Michael Irvin thought about that as his

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Speaker 3: own area on the field. You're right, because he runs

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Speaker 3: back and forth and dancing like oh, and he talks

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Speaker 3: to the players. He's almost like Matthew McConaughey has been

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Speaker 3: for the last I don't know how many years Michael,

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Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey been on that field with Texas to Miami.

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Speaker 3: So he's way worse.

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Speaker 5: So it's more his antics, I'm saying, Like he's much

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01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 5: more visible out there. It's more noticeable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more polarizing too, because he is active, right,

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Speaker 1: McConaughey is not that he's there and people put the

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Speaker 1: camera on him because he's famous. Yeah, Michael Irvin's there

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: and he wants the camera, so he's doing things to

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Speaker 1: keep the camera on him.

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Speaker 3: Because even Ray Lewis is there and yeah, chilling, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of annoys me a little bit. It

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Speaker 3: annoys me a little bit. It just annoys me when

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Speaker 3: they take like the Taylor Swift stuff was kind of

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Speaker 3: annoying too. Like, We're watching the game and I know

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Speaker 3: Michael Irvin is a huge he went to Miami. He's

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Speaker 3: a huge, you know, supporter of Miami and is the

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Speaker 3: face of Miami. I get it, but I want to

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Speaker 3: watch the game, and I think Michael Irvin takes takes

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Speaker 3: that away from the team that's actually playing the game.

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Speaker 1: You think Travis Kelsey's retiring, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so why not? I just I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't think you go out like

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Speaker 1: that bad. He goes out sour.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Now he's also on the drama with his charity.

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Speaker 4: I saw that.

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Speaker 3: They steal money, money laundering.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere of my mind goes so I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: and you look it up, because I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you what I know and this is without reading the

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Speaker 1: articles that I think when they did some investigati of

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Speaker 1: his charities, like forty percent of it went to the

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Speaker 1: actual cause, sixty percent went to the people that were

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Speaker 1: running the charity. And the people that are running charity

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Speaker 1: were like his close And that's not out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 3: No, that's normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're going, well, you're a really rich dude,

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Speaker 1: and it's your foundation. We think more money should be

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Speaker 1: going to the charity other than just paying like your

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Speaker 1: people that are your possible friends and family that are

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Speaker 1: running the charity. There's nothing illegal happening. And with most

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Speaker 1: charities that's kind of how it goes. Yeah, I've done

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Speaker 1: pay for the infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: And you yeah, and the people running the charity, the

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Speaker 3: people working for the charity needs to get paid, you know.

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of it's a weird thought to

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Speaker 3: think that, you know, you have money and some of it,

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Speaker 3: not all of it goes to whatever the cause is

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Speaker 3: because people need to get paid.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really dumb and short sighted when people go, man,

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Speaker 1: this ceo arity, he makes a million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: That shouldn't happen. But okay, let's say you get somebody

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Speaker 1: that makes fifty thousand dollars a year and the charity

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Speaker 1: makes a million bucks overall. Or you get someone you

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Speaker 1: pay a million bucks that would be running another company

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Speaker 1: and the charity makes seven hundred million dollars because they

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Because they know what they're doing, Like,

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Speaker 1: do you actually care about the cause? Because if you did,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't so much care about how much money somebody

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Speaker 1: makes if they're making more money for the cause. So

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Speaker 1: I always think those people are idiotic. They complained about

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Speaker 1: CEOs of a charity making money because if they weren't

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Speaker 1: doing that, they'd be running a company. Yes, but they

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Speaker 1: go and hire people that run companies well to run

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Speaker 1: this charity.

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Speaker 5: What do you see, Kevin, Yeah, it says about forty

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Speaker 5: one cents of every dollar has gone to the charity,

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01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: raised in the last couple of years one point five

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Speaker 5: million and spending roughly one.

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Speaker 4: Point one million.

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Speaker 5: And who is running the charity It is a a

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Speaker 5: Anda management group, a firm co founded by Travis Kelsey's

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Speaker 5: longtime business manager.

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Speaker 1: So that's connected to him. To sure, I don't think

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Speaker 1: anything's wrong, but that's the controversy.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong either. I mean, yes,

1520
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: it's a little weird. It sounds weird, right, It sounds

1521
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: weird that more money doesn't go to the actual cause

1522
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: of the charity. But I understand it, so it's not weird.

1523
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: Ex Amplified though, because it's Travis Kelcey and he's at

1524
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and he's also a really rich guy. And

1525
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: you're like, well, why don't you just pay the people

1526
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: to run the charity because you have millions and millions

1527
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: of dollars?

1528
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

1529
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to judge him because he's differently

1530
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: because of the accomplishments and the success that he's had.

1531
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I think they're running the charity as

1532
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: the charity should be run. From what I know, I

1533
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: know very little. A lot of I haven't been in

1534
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: the books. Give me the books. I'll get in the

1535
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: Boo book.

1536
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: Give me a week with the books, give me the book.

1537
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: We'll see how I come out. But yeah, I I

1538
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: tend to think if Mahomes is healthy enough to come

1539
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: back at the beginning of next year, you'll come back,

1540
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: that he may come back as well. It is an

1541
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: ugly way to leave Yeah, this is a bad year,

1542
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: bad taste in your mouth, sour out.

1543
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 3: When's the wedding? Who knows? There's no date.

1544
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: My invitation says, pull it up, rand and open for

1545
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift.

1546
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yes, he did the Red Tour right.

1547
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're not kidding. No, not a jokey Yeah,

1548
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: but you're making it sound like we're kidding. Yeah.

1549
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: What was she like, dude?

1550
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 6: She was awesome. Yeah, I mean everything everybody says. You know,

1551
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 6: sweet kind takes care of everybody.

1552
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: Would you talk to you in person? Like, look at you?

1553
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Brandon, I.

1554
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 6: I think she got my name wrong a few times,

1555
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 6: but I didn't care. But by the end of it,

1556
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 6: she knew it.

1557
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 5: Hey, let's go on, Braxton Braiden.

1558
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: That's cool though, that's awesome.

1559
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the favorite? When the Super Bowl? According of

1560
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: the odds? Eddie, I know you haven't seen it, so

1561
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: I have.

1562
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: Not seen it. I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess.

1563
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: The bills No, no, no, no, no, no, bad they're

1564
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: plus eleven hundred, Dan, that's so you should bet on that.

1565
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: Det that's a really good I got a little bit

1566
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: on them as a future.

1567
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did two like a couple months ago.

1568
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: The Seahawks is the favorite, yeah, plus three twenty. The

1569
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: Rams are second plus four hundred, and I think if

1570
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: the Rams win this week that will probably even itself out.

1571
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are getting that slight edge because

1572
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: they have a bye week.

1573
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the home field they're out.

1574
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1575
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: The Broncos at three, the Patriots at four plus nine hundred,

1576
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: But the big gap is between the Rams and the Broncos.

1577
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 5: It goes from what did you say?

1578
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 9: Three plus three hundred nine hundred plus six fifty is

1579
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 9: the Broncos, Patriots, Eagles, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Houston, Green Bay, Chicago,

1580
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 9: San Francisco, the Chargers, the Steelers and Panthers are at

1581
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 9: plus twenty thousand.

1582
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 3: Dang, that's a nice payout.

1583
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what is that? Just a update? Because I haven't

1584
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: seen it, and you have what do we own? Our

1585
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Skins league going to the playoffs?

1586
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 5: Boys, you did the math and no, I didn't do

1587
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 5: the math. We just looked at that math forty nine hundred.

1588
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,919
Speaker 3: For word down before the postseason.

1589
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: So basically five grand, which would mean I owe twenty five.

1590
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: You guys ow twelve to fifty each We need the

1591
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: Patriots to win to only lose like one hundred bucks

1592
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: this week.

1593
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 3: Okay, just this week, but if they lose, we lose

1594
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 3: like six hundred six to seven hundred buck and then

1595
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: we stop making money. Yeah, yeah, we're done.

1596
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: But we don't make money in the first two weeks.

1597
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: We're just trying to stay even. They need to win

1598
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: so we don't lose money the first two weeks. Okay,

1599
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: the only thing that makes me feel better is we're

1600
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: not the We don't owe the biggest.

1601
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: That doesn't make me feel better.

1602
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: What's that number right now?

1603
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 5: That's seventy nine hundred.

1604
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: Ay yay yaye.

1605
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, dude, that would sting.

1606
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: If the Patriots. Just doing some math for you guys

1607
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: so you can know, I we're forty nine now and

1608
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: there are what six games.

1609
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 3: This weekend?

1610
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think you're talking about the Patriots.

1611
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: So we could basically lose another thousand this week, another

1612
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: thousand the next week if the Patriots lose. So if

1613
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: we lose Patriots win, we're probably even.

1614
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 3: Okay, so it doesn't matter.

1615
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: Now five hundred, so I would say we could lose

1616
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: that if they lose lose this week we're gonna be

1617
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: down one thousand more after next week, so we could

1618
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: lose another fifteen sixteen hundred bucks. If the Patriots lose

1619
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: a medial, we will Okay, the Patriots lose this week,

1620
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose another fifteen sixteen hundred buck So it's

1621
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: going to.

1622
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 5: Be basically it's a eight grand right to be safe.

1623
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: Now, no, probably seven, okay seven for the season.

1624
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: Probably.

1625
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, yeah, you want super conservative.

1626
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, I want real.

1627
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: Well, I can't do the real because I want worst case,

1628
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: the worst case, realistic, seventy five hundred. Okay, we need

1629
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots to win or that's gonna be what it

1630
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: is the Panthers, Right, what.

1631
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: About the Panthers winning? What if they win the whole thing?

1632
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: If they win the whole thing, that's gonna save us

1633
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: four hundred bucks.

1634
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 3: Go all right, it's already impossible.

1635
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 6: But okay, guys, I know it's January, but should we

1636
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 6: start a car wash, should be a food drive, any

1637
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 6: offerings so we could.

1638
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: Lose, let's just say so bad, what's up?

1639
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: That's so bad? Those numbers are bad, like like, and

1640
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: I know everytime you do something like this, you're like oh,

1641
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: there's a chance we can probably owe a lot of money.

1642
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: But I didn't. I wasn't really ready for all that.

1643
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: I wanted us to be like, oh my god, we

1644
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: want ten thousand dollars off this thing.

1645
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: It's awesome and we definitely could have.

1646
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: We could have, we didn't.

1647
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: So if we get to seventy five hundred, each of

1648
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: you guys will owe eighteen hundred bucks basically. Okay, So

1649
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: just say the worst case scenario two thousand dollars.

1650
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1651
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: And why didn't Brandon jump on this because he's smart?

1652
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1653
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 5: Remember you wanted to go.

1654
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was never asked.

1655
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: Here's the question for you guys.

1656
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 3: You want to jump in new brain take over for me?

1657
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: Maybe next year? Will you guys want to get in

1658
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: next year?

1659
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 3: I have to think about it.

1660
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 6: I'll get in next year.

1661
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: Let's see, let's see the damage this year, and then

1662
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 3: we'll think of it.

1663
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be that though, you should already know based on

1664
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: what's happening.

1665
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 3: No, I got to know how much to save all years.

1666
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: Hey, I'll be in next year without a doubt, because

1667
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: if I lose a bunch of this year, I'll probably

1668
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: beat even again. Because that had a couple of good

1669
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: years in a row.

1670
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: There's got to be some conditions.

1671
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: There will be no conditions. No, you can't make conditions.

1672
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 3: Hear me out. You can't blame me when Joe Burrow

1673
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: gets hurt.

1674
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 4: We didn't. We made for a hole.

1675
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: We said, we fought about it. And if I also said,

1676
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: if the Bengals win, it's your victory.

1677
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wasn't going to happen.

1678
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. I said before Joe Burrow got hurt.

1679
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: If the Bengals end up being a really good team,

1680
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: it's before Burrough got hurt. You're the one that was

1681
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: right the whole time. It wasn't just take the shots

1682
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: that you it was you also get to be the

1683
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: hero too, because you fought for the Bengals over the Packers.

1684
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, my crystal ball was foggy.

1685
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: So we are going to do a NCAA Calcutta.

1686
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 3: I know I saw that email. I don't think I

1687
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: can do that.

1688
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: Those are awesome and you don't close to the damage,

1689
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: but you don't. Yeah maybe for you, maybe maybe, but

1690
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: you don't lose more. There's a limit on your losing.

1691
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: You bid on teams, so you can bid five hundred

1692
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: bucks and get a team. You don't lose any more

1693
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: than what you already pay you.

1694
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: You can sit in the draft and then you're like,

1695
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do twenty dollars and then you

1696
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: never have a chance to plan.

1697
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: You no team, You get a thirteen seed. But the

1698
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: more your team with, the more money you make.

1699
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, just like let us breathe. I gotta breathe

1700
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1701
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you had to be in I know,

1702
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: I saw the email. My favorite thing is the Calcutta

1703
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: and cuaa Calcutta.

1704
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: It's fun, March madness, it's fun.

1705
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: All right, We're done.

1706
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: Think about that for a little bit.

1707
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: What's up?

1708
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: Think about all that.

1709
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: We need the Patriots to win. We do, Yes, we do,

1710
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: because it will save us a bunch of money.

1711
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: Are there any other teams that we should be rooting

1712
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 3: for that people have as losers?

1713
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: Well?

1714
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, one guy has the seahawkic is a loser, so

1715
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 1: he's lost a bunch of money. So if they eventually lose,

1716
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: or if they lose, they're money. Well, they're not gonna

1717
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: lose it this week the next week. Yeah, yeah, so

1718
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: because they also get money for winning. If they're all

1719
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: to buy. It's a free money.

1720
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: So they got a win.

1721
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: So they got a win than they earned it.

1722
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 3: Huh you sure did?

1723
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, We're out. Let's see you guys next week.

1724
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:16,599
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1725
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,759
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1726
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,280
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1727
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,400
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1728
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: our crew co host at Producer Ready, Segment producer at

1729
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Gestro. But most importantly,

1730
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: thank you for listening.

1731
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: Bobby Bones.

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five

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Speaker 1: whistles