WEBVTT - Russell Dickerson

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<v Speaker 1>Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the yes, actually got the scoop on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the ones in side. No one can do with quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>my Carala, Carola. No one can do with quiet Caroline.

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<v Speaker 1>This time of Caroline, You guys, this is the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Getting Real for the Year, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Dickerson joining us. He has had a huge explosive year.

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<v Speaker 1>His song Yours is top five. He has journey to

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<v Speaker 1>getting a top five song is truly remarkable. He's so

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by his calling, his walk with God, and he

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<v Speaker 1>talks all about it. You will not want to miss

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<v Speaker 1>this absolutely inspirational episode. Here is Russell Dickerson to kick

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<v Speaker 1>off the last episode of Get Reel for the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well hello, Russell Dickerson, Well hello, how are you. I'm fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to have you here because I've caught you

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<v Speaker 1>in a brief, little moment of time for you being home,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're on a whirlwind right now. Yeah, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty nuts, but it's all good living the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>You get what you asked for. I guess so what

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<v Speaker 1>did you ask for? Uh? To play Arenas and stadiums

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<v Speaker 1>and have hits and you know, do the country music life.

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<v Speaker 1>Heck yet, so you're a Nashville native, you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few, which is amazing. You grew up in the

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<v Speaker 1>country music capital of the world. Did you always know

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to do country music and be a

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<v Speaker 1>country music star? No? No, well there was like so

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<v Speaker 1>I was born in West Tennessee and then moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville when I was tin. So but still like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're tin, you don't really know what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with your life. And so in the school systems here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like everybody listens to country, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 1>went I grew up in Franklin, and so like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, Nashville is kind of a big

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<v Speaker 1>city vibe going on totally. And so, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>was kids listening to everything rap rock, you know, Nirvana,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Hot, Chili Peppers, Little Wayne, Yeah, Emminem, Like eight seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>Did that come up when you're growing out? Growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>A second? Eight seconds? Eight miles? I combined the Cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>movie and combined to Jake Owen song. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that one, the one where the guy died in the

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<v Speaker 1>bull Riding movie Okay, any check that one out? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it on Netflix? It's when I have the name? Um

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<v Speaker 1>yeah eight miles. But yeah, just I mean, there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many different influences around, and so what did you

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<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards? What were you loving when you're growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much? I mean red Hot Chili Peppers, Blink, Nirvana,

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<v Speaker 1>like even like all the Way to the super poppy

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<v Speaker 1>like Britney Spears like we would just like I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like this music is cool and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to it. But then like around when I

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<v Speaker 1>started being able to drive was when I would like

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<v Speaker 1>put that country CD in and it like felt so

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<v Speaker 1>good while you're driving. All that and so all of

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of morphed into this sound that I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of how would you describe your sound? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Super high energy and upbeat, But that's just you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just you in general, the happiest person to live on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth. Thank you. That's sweet. You always are. You

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<v Speaker 1>and your wife both are so happy. All radiate happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks that's very sweet you too, look at that smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on. Um, but yeah, so just upbeat and energetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it important to you to be upbeat? And happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a choice you make? I mean sometimes yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes you know, you just gotta I know that

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<v Speaker 1>that is who you are, and even regardless of your

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding situations, and like, Okay, I have to get up

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<v Speaker 1>at four thirty am for this flight, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I still don't let that ruin your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny story, So like checking into the airport on my license,

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<v Speaker 1>my picture is literally like and so like the happiest

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<v Speaker 1>you have thumbs up in the picture. But can we

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a close up of it? Yes? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you blow out my my number? We can just put

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<v Speaker 1>our finger over and the close up of that, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. So my license holds me accountable, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm at the when I'm checking into the airport

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<v Speaker 1>desk and I'm like you know, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't look like this in your picture, and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, all right. So were your parents super happy

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<v Speaker 1>growing up? What was your upbringing? Like, do you have siblings?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the environment of your childhood? My dad is

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<v Speaker 1>a music minister. Okay, so you grew up in the church. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that we moved here for my dad's still at

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<v Speaker 1>the same church today has been there twenty years, and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, we spent a lot of time. And that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about my childhood, I think about growing

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<v Speaker 1>up like literally in the church, and what was that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you enjoy that? Oh? Yeah, it was because like

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<v Speaker 1>I was surrounded by obviously great people, but like other

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<v Speaker 1>kids who were in the same like scenario was me.

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<v Speaker 1>Their parents worked at the church and you know, dad

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<v Speaker 1>was enquired rehearsal till nine o'clock on a Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like you just hung out. Oh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>just hung out with like all of those kids and

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<v Speaker 1>like played hide and seeks. You're kind of like in

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<v Speaker 1>a family commune in a way, church in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 1>not in a weird way, like, and like you just

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<v Speaker 1>have kids all around you all the time. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool. And then my little sister she's eight

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<v Speaker 1>years seven a half years younger than me, and she's amazing. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so when did you start to really full force pursue

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<v Speaker 1>your dream of country music to the point where you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just gonna sing in church, I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sing for fun. I'm actually going to go for

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<v Speaker 1>this and how did you start making your way into

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<v Speaker 1>that career. Let's see, Honestly, there was Let's see, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like two thousand and seven really because I had

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<v Speaker 1>like after high school, senior year of high school, we

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<v Speaker 1>started this band and like like, oh, you're ready for it,

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<v Speaker 1>embracing myself buried under Broken Glass? Oh oh man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling it. Yeah, I was feeling ce Bury under broken Glass.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you trying to What was the thought when

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<v Speaker 1>you came up with that? What were you wanting to think? That?

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<v Speaker 1>We were hardcore and you're feeling it, You're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the real stuff. Yeah, we were just

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with our teenage angst. Music is a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that, and so we just played loud,

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<v Speaker 1>annoying now music, but that we thought it was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you make a c Yeah, I know, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>find it. I gotta find that kind of screaming in

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't I wasn't the vocalist. You weren't the vocalist. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like sing every once in a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I played guitar. Okay, so you didn't even start off

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<v Speaker 1>as the vocalist. Okay, then not in that band, but

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<v Speaker 1>you knew how long you secretly wanted to best um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Like in high school, I was in marching band.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you play snare drum? So I did that

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<v Speaker 1>and then we started this heavy rock band. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after that, like around high school too, I started like

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<v Speaker 1>leading worship from my youth group. So it does Buried

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<v Speaker 1>under Broken Glass and worship leading? Did they match? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the same kind of message or is it two

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<v Speaker 1>different messages? Yeah? It was kind of more two different messages,

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<v Speaker 1>not not messages, two different sounds. Like yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really involved in writing any of the lyrics for

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<v Speaker 1>Buried under Broken Glass, it's I love it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is you're going to go big. You know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to have after Yeah, we're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>Buried under Rose pedals. It's not hardcore, um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>leading worship and that was kind of That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>learned to play guitar, and then like being up in

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<v Speaker 1>front of people and playing and singing, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>did the band thing and that was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I got a feel for like a show and like

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<v Speaker 1>people coming out to listen to this music, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>these people came to hear our songs and so that

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of got hooked on that. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was dating this girl in college who was raised on

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<v Speaker 1>like the oldest, most traditional country music and like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what she did, and so I kind of like dove

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<v Speaker 1>into that too, and was like, you know, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever she was listening to, and it was like old stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, Jim Reeves and like George Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>like so many of these old, great traditional songs, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just kinda I got hooked on that for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it because like the lower voices

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<v Speaker 1>kind of could I could relate with that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some Merle Haggard stuff and um, but yeah, just like

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what got me hooked on country music.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then you know, that took me like super

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<v Speaker 1>far in the traditional realm of country, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>started writing songs in that zone. And so it started

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<v Speaker 1>out more traditional, and then I kind of came back

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<v Speaker 1>to the center about like probably two two or three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I was like, all right, like that's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm like trying to do something over here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do something different, but like right here

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<v Speaker 1>is who I am is that when you birtht out

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<v Speaker 1>all of these songs that are now you're ep And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's when I started writing with Casey Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>Parker Welling. The second song we wrote together ever, was

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<v Speaker 1>Yours and that's a really important special song for you

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very personal. Yeah. Yeah, and so I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got back to the center of because like

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<v Speaker 1>when I signed my first pub deal, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>this like before that, I was kind of like Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Turner vibe and like sing real low country and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I kind of went more to like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'm playing guitar too, so like kind of Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Urban vibe, and like I was trying to write the

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<v Speaker 1>next Keith Urban song for myself, and it just like

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't happening. Nothing was nothing was like catching. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's when I got with two of my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>who knew you knew me, they knew my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew me and Kayley's relationships since before we were together.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew Kaylee before I did. Did you meet your wife?

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<v Speaker 1>In college? We met Belmont. Okay, y'all have like this

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<v Speaker 1>epic love story. Y'all are one of the country music

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<v Speaker 1>couples that I feel like it's just a really great

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<v Speaker 1>example of true love and you are happy to display

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<v Speaker 1>her in your songs and you're not back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day like people tried to hide their relationships. But that

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<v Speaker 1>is not your vibe at all, which I think is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about how you met your wife and

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<v Speaker 1>how she has influenced your music so much. We met,

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of we were dating other people and

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't really there wasn't like this like love

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<v Speaker 1>at first sight. Were both dating other people when y'all met. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you kind of met in the friend zone. Met

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<v Speaker 1>in the friend zone. We were in the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of friend group, and then we actually had the same

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<v Speaker 1>voice teacher. So she sings. Also, Okay, can you ever

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<v Speaker 1>do that with her? I mean I would, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like she's like never really come around. She's I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like she's starting to come around to this whole

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<v Speaker 1>the singing thing, but not. I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she She's not trying to appreciate. That's why she started

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<v Speaker 1>doing photography. But yeah, we had the same voice teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just kind of met and hang out and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up breaking up with those people and when you

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<v Speaker 1>met her, were you kind of like she's cute? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, of course. And then but like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>this like moment. We just kinda grew as like friends

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<v Speaker 1>first and the same group, and then just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>naturally gravitated towards each other and we're like, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like hanging out with each other. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had our first kiss and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like that it was good. It was honestly was that

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<v Speaker 1>like a Belmont graduation party and like not in like

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<v Speaker 1>a can you say, do she on here? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not in like a douchey way, but like I had

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<v Speaker 1>never really like gone in for that super vulnerable, because

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<v Speaker 1>what did you get rejected? Because you have had friends

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<v Speaker 1>now for a while. Yeah, you're cool in the friends zone,

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<v Speaker 1>so going for the kids even like yeah, exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it doesn't work out or she's

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<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing? We're friends? You ruined everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so it was like it was like my

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<v Speaker 1>first to zero, you know, your heart racing? Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you how did you get the nerve to do it? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told her, I was like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually like a meet in the middle kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like not here. She's like, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to kiss me. Well at least you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about it, so she's open to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so but yeah, it was just like dang, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that. And so we dated for like

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<v Speaker 1>to two and a half years and got married in

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<v Speaker 1>May five, four years ago. That's awesome. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she he's really I mean a huge part of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing because we didn't we had nothing going on

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<v Speaker 1>for like the first two years of our marriage. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we made literally our first year of marriage, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we made twelve dollars. So how do you stay afloat?

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<v Speaker 1>She would do like photography jobs and like living off

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<v Speaker 1>some wedding money we had. Isn't it kind of awesome

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<v Speaker 1>to start off like that if you can make it

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<v Speaker 1>through those really hungry years where neither one has anything

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<v Speaker 1>to show for themselves yet, that's true love, Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, like we had nowhere to be, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do, Like I wasn't playing It's a wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>playing shows. You're like I'm available, Yeah, I'm like call me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to play some shows. Um, So how did

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<v Speaker 1>you move past that? Not having anywhere to be anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with that cracking up that you said it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean it's true, totally ready, no one

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<v Speaker 1>was really like trying to write songs with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing going on for real. How did you break

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<v Speaker 1>out of that? I just, honestly, I started kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just making my own tracks and kind of producing my

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<v Speaker 1>own stuff. Don't you think it always when you self start,

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<v Speaker 1>it always creates a ripple effect. So you're finally like, Okay, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna wait for Jeffrey Steele to call me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go and start making my own which

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<v Speaker 1>funny story because that was my next deal. It was

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeffrey Steele. What was in a roundabout way anyone listening,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Steel is one of the biggest songwriters in Nashville. Amazing. Um,

0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't directly with him, but he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty involved and so but yeah, so those first years,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking in those years? I'm like, when

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<v Speaker 1>is it going to happen? Like? When am I stressing

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.280
<v Speaker 1>out because you got a new wife? Now? Are you worried?

0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you peaceful about it? Kind of id go back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. Like honestly, we were times when I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? Like I'm a country artist, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not writing songs right now, I'm not playing shows.

0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like what am I doing? And like, looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the most foundational time of our marriage

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<v Speaker 1>to like just really be with each other, not have

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<v Speaker 1>to be here, be there like we are now, like

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<v Speaker 1>you really you really built a strong foundation, oh my gosh. Yeah,

0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and so it wasn't built around like me already being successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she comes in and like you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>enters into this lifestyle. Immediately, it was like we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this together, like we're broke together and now we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting our first little taste of success together, and that's awesome. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And she it's not like she was just like there,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like helping me. She shot the music video for Yours,

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<v Speaker 1>which yours music video first time. The whole song is

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<v Speaker 1>about her, right, which is amazing. I love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I feel like there's this really subtle depth to

0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it because you're walking down this road and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like proclaiming your heart to the wild open

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<v Speaker 1>kind of describing who you are and then at one

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<v Speaker 1>point it's raining and it's all about finding love. It

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<v Speaker 1>also as a god connection. Explain to me yours and

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<v Speaker 1>why this is such an important song to you. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of really the first hm true love

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<v Speaker 1>song that I wrote, like from the bottom of who

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<v Speaker 1>I am about the woman I love, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was really easy to do because it was

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<v Speaker 1>with some of my best friends who knew who know her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't wasn't vulnerable. You could just be yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>be real. And then but then it's like not writing yours,

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<v Speaker 1>but like if there's other times it's like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really you, bro, and I'm like, yeah, you're right,

0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you for knowing me. Yeah, and so but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>writing yours it was it was just this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I had the idea just the title, very simple, yours,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like I was this before you. I

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<v Speaker 1>was this before you, but now I'm yours, and it's like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you? The simplest little twists like talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a boat stuck in a bottle, like it just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I was selfish and like as far as

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<v Speaker 1>relationships go, yeah, just selfish and like the whole first

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<v Speaker 1>kiss thing like I don't like to make the first move,

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I never make the first move, and she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to with me. I'm like okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like, really, she makes me better than

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I was before? Do you say that you make me

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<v Speaker 1>my best self? I left behind my worst self. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you say that, Like the best me

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<v Speaker 1>has his arms around you. Yeah it's long gone memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's awesome. So it's it's just a really vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>like love song admitting that I wasn't the best you

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>know in our relationship before, but now you make me

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 1>better than I was before. I feel like those to

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<v Speaker 1>have someone like you, a cute guy breaking out in

0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>country music to yes, you know born this way like

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>lady God that says born this way. So, but to

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<v Speaker 1>actually value marriage, and I feel like that's something happening

0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 1>in country music right now. Which it's great, awesome to

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:36.399
<v Speaker 1>have a community of happily married people. Well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's so much more fun. Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>be married if you don't enjoy being with your spouse,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's cool to see people working it into

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<v Speaker 1>their careers too. I think it's amazing. Yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going out to shows and stuff and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where's Kaylee, Like she's not here. And even like with Florida,

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Line and Thomas Rhett and Lauren and all their wives,

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.919
<v Speaker 1>the lives are almost just as as wildly popular as

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<v Speaker 1>the husbands, which is crazy. Which also you have toured

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 1>with them, all of those people, Thomas Hrett, Florida, GEORGEA Line,

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<v Speaker 1>Kanan Smith. But you're kind of in this crew. Yeah,

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>did y'all come up together? How did you get in

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 1>this crew? Yeah, this is a fun story because that's

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a great crew to be a part of. Yeah. Well,

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>like so it started out. I was playing at Twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>and Porter down here and it was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my first shows ever. And this girl came up and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, Hey, a couple of buddies of mine

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you and like write with you

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<v Speaker 1>and meet you. And I'm like, Okay, that's whatever. Sure,

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm here to write songs. I'm in Nashville. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it was Brian and Tyler and before they yeah, like

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they were just trying to be songwriters. Yeah, and so

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like I knew I wanted to be an artist.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was already playing shows and you know, ten

0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>people were there, but you're doing it. I'm doing it.

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And so we they were like, hey, man, like we

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<v Speaker 1>should write some songs together, come over to the house. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like yeah, sure, And so we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wrote a ton of songs together, awesome songs, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just like was I wanted to be the artist

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<v Speaker 1>and so like I just cut them off. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, we're gonna do this band thing Florida

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia line and I'm like all right, cool, I go

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<v Speaker 1>do your thing. And they kind of had a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different sound than I did, and so um, so they

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<v Speaker 1>went out and did their thing, and then they showed

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 1>me cruise. They were like, hey man, we just wrote

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this song like it's pretty good, awesome, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like dang, yeah, um but now it was. And then

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 1>then for them, it just like took off so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that crazy to be in that? Yeah? It was

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy to see them like just blow up. I was

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:57.479
<v Speaker 1>like these are my boys, and like now they're They

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<v Speaker 1>were like on tour with Jaco went at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>which yeah, and then just like hearing him on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio and it was just so like I felt like

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the proud little brother, you know, and so because they

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<v Speaker 1>were like a couple of years ahead of me at

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<v Speaker 1>Belmont and all that stuff, and so just to see

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>them take off in that way, it was so amazing.

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy, and I feel like Nashville is really

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing at having such a strong community of people because

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>people really do link up and they they they grow

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>off of each other, they get inspirational off each other,

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and then all oftudden you see this whole group of

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<v Speaker 1>friends all making it. I feel like it happens like

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that a lot, like how doing the music mafia would

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>to stick together and then one by one they start

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.360
<v Speaker 1>getting their own success. I feel like national so supportive. Yeah,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it really is, because like I know, like Jake brought

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>fgl Out on tour, Luke brought f gl Out on tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I mean you have to have the music

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, but it's still that and like Thomas brought

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<v Speaker 1>me out on tour, and I know like al Deane

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<v Speaker 1>brought him out on tour, and it's just like it

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>is this community of like, hey, I dig what you're doing.

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Come out. Let me introduce you to my fans, and

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>you know it catches on and like with the tr tour,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was the biggest exposure to that size crowd

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>every night. How did you feel playing that shows? Amazing?

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was cool because like I've opened up

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>for people before, but this one was like just a

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>different level and they were like all the all the

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>fans were like into it, like whatever Thomas Rhett brings

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to his show, like we're there, Yeah, we like it.

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>It's Thomas Thomas right approved. Yeah, And so yeah, it

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>was just like it was a great It was the

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<v Speaker 1>incredible tour. So you've kind of done something with yours.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome. It's sort of a wedding song

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and you have crashed some people's weddings playing this song.

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>How did you get that idea? And what was that

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling like because one of them, I think you were

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<v Speaker 1>playing the guitar when the bride walks down and she

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>had no idea you were going to be there. How

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>do you decide to surprise pool like that? What a

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>sweet Yeah. Well, the at first writing writing yours, it

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>was like we weren't like, well, what a bride want

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to hear? Like walking down the aisle, We weren't It

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that mindset at all. It was just like us

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>being real and honest and just writing the best song

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>we could and then we released it, we released the

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>video um, and then slowly but surely it was like

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a tweet here, a tweet there, like hey, we just

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>used this in our wedding song. Here's the here's our

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>video of us in our first dance. And I'm just like,

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 1>holy cow, like it's just starting to catch on. And

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>so this was before the EP was released, and I

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>was like, I think we should do like an acoustic wedding,

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>like more chill version instead of like guitar solos and

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, like a cello and some piano and stuff.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So we went back and recorded the whole thing. Um,

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it was just still just like snowballed and

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>it's still still going, even getting crazier of like people

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 1>reaching out and asking me to come play their wedding,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and um, if you're listening and you asked them, we

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't respond, it's sorry, I love you, but like yeah,

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just people I want to like have this song

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a part of their special perfect message. It's the message

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>that you want. Yeah, And honestly, I feel like a

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys can relate to this song, Like, and

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>as as I look out and see people at my shows,

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>it's like a lot of like even yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not totally, but I mean there's a lot of dudes,

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it really connects because like it

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was just me being honest and like, hey, I wasn't

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the best of relationships. Yeah, I wasn't really the best

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>at relationships, but then I met the love of my life.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like these guys are like, yeah, like

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel you and like this girl change my life,

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and so they'll come to the shows together. Anyways, what

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>were we talking about, how you're just surprising people's weddings

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and so they'll reach out and like, hey, can we

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>buy you a plane ticket out here? And like surprised

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and like I try to do as many as I can,

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>but it's um, you know, it's getting harder and harder

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But it's so fun too. Like a

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>song that I wrote in this crappy apartment in Nashville

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we recorded it and like people are hearing

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it and they're like, oh my gosh. Like people would

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, we had a first dance song. Our

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>wedding is next week and we just heard yours and

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we're changing it. Oh, how incredible is that your art

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and your words and your message. And I'm like, that's

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like the biggest day, one of the biggest days of

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>your life, and you just changed it a week before

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>your wedding because you heard And it's like, I don't know,

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just cool. How are the song and the power

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>are the truth too? So right before you got your

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>break and you signed and yours came out when you're

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness place those two years. That's so true.

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a great word. Did you ever have a moment

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>where you're like I just got to throw in the towel, Like,

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>did you ever have a moment or you're like I

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 1>can't do this? Not really? You never did you knew

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that this is for you? Yeah? Never. There was never

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>like a Plan B in my head, but there was

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>like that's important to not have a plan by because

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>because like I think it takes away from your endurance

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>towards your plan A. Totally totally yeah, And so turn

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>up and dropped the mike, um uh a d D distracted.

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a plan B? Yeah, I don't. I

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think so it's like I never Yeah, I was

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>just like I went to Belmont, I studied, you know, singing.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>M Like, that's what I want to do. And yeah,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I think if you have a plan B, you'll fall

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>back on that sooner than you you would have without

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>having it. I love that. I kind of do a

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit of rapid fire. And these are kind of

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>deep words, but you're a deep person and I know, like,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>do you like to talk about the soul? So what

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is faith to you? Faith is what has kept me

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>going this whole time, trusting that what I couldn't see

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>yet was still ahead. And how did you know that

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it would be there? How did you know that your

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>faith was was legit? You know, because it's so easy

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to have faith but then to actually believe it and

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>live it as another thing. So that's awesome. Um, it's

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>really just kind of I mean, the faith is that trust,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that that what I'm hoping for, that what I'm chasing,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that what I'm desiring is going to come to me.

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you think what you desire in your heart is

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>your calling? Yeah? And do you think we all have

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>different desires because we all have different callings? Is that

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>how we find our calling or how do you identify

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it your calling? Yeah, I think it's the desire of

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>your heart. You know, I feel like me personally, I

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like God gives me that desire. There's a verse

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that talks about that, and it gets confused a lot

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>because like it's like, whatever I want, God's going to

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>give it to me. And it's actually like, I feel

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's the reverse of that. It's like God gives

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you the desire for what you want, you know, like

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>he gave me that desire to to be on a

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>platform in the stage and two pursue this relentlessly because

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I me personally like I didn't have I mean I did,

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's sometimes I was like should I just like

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>not keep get a job? You know, I got to

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>support my wife. But it was never like giving up

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>on this dream. But but yeah, I feel like that

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>desire has just been in my heart and there was

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>no other really way to go about it. Just stick

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it out and continue to have faith. Do you think

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>some people, okay, answer this question, some people do not

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>pursue their calling because fear, fear of failure. I feel

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like everyone has that desire on their heart, but so

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>many people can't quite identify what it is and they're

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>not willing to search for it. But be I wonder

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>why everyone doesn't listen to those desires. I think about it.

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Everyone I interview in the share is people who are

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>following the desires. But it's hard, isn't it? It is?

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And like it's not easy. Everyone thinks, oh, your life

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>must be easy. Look at you. You've got a great wife,

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you got a hit song, rad you, your friends are

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>all these fabulous people touring. But it's really hard to

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>follow your calling. Yeah, and it is because like even

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like I saw my buddies blow up, and I was like,

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>is that going to happen to me? Like is that

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>ever going to happen for me? And but yeah, it's

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>just staying strong and continuing just to follow that desire

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>every single day that has brought me to and not

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.479
<v Speaker 1>preparing to that was a that was a big thing

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>for me. Is like it's not going to happen the

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>same way for anybody. It's all every single way is different.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And as much as there you try to figure out

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>this formula to get a hit song on the radio,

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's all different. And so that was kind

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of the point where I was like, all right, well,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>like me and Kaylee, my wife, were going to shoot

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a music video and we're gonna put it on YouTube,

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's how we're gonna start doing this thing. And

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>then there was just one thing after another. It kept

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>growing and growing. What would you recommend some one who

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how to follow their calling or doesn't know

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>what to do. Maybe they have an idea of what

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. How would you suggest that next step? How

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>do you know the next step? I don't think you

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>do ever really know what the perfect next step is.

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>But just start firing, just start just start doing something.

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree to do something. That's my answer. Do something,

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>because like we didn't know what the answer was. Yeah,

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we did something. We shot a video and that opened

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the next door. Yeah that we shot a video and

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>if that wouldn't have worked, we would have come up

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with something and it was something else. Yeah do ah. Well,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't have a record deal at the time,

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>so my plan was shoot a video for yours, shoot

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a video for another and we had called Blue Tacoma,

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>shoot another video for just do this like video series,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and like, I don't know. That was my plan. And

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>then We got together with my manager and I'm like,

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going to record an EP. And then

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that EP led to getting a record deal and led

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>to a song on the radio. And now because you

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>took action, just do something that it's scary to think

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>might work. And it's kind of scary to put yourself

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>out there too, Like what if people judge me and

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think I suck or whatever it doesn't work. You just

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>can't worry about that, right exactly. That's I mean, that's

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>what will lead you back into the cycle of why

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>don't why don't you think people follow their dreams? Look

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>at you a failure? Yeah? Okay, Um, what is being

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>brave to you? Ah? Being brave? I think it is

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>not caring what people think about insert whatever they're like.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Not caring about what people think is one of the

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>hardest things for me is like what if you know,

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>what if they think I'm you know, trying to I

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, trying to like just hang around them, to

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>be cool and be whatever. But like or I mean

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>anything anything anything to do with like fear of man

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is it's so frustrating and it's I feel like everyone

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>struggled with that. Have you realized kind of. I've sort

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of realized this over time. Whatever I think people are thinking,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they're actually never thinking, because no one's really ever even

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>thinking about anyone but themselves most of the time, right,

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>do you think? And I feel like what that fear

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is is how I would view someone else in a

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>similar situation, like, oh, if I keep coughing, like everyone

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>around me is going to be like, oh, what idiot?

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>You know? I don't know, I don't know, but you

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's just like and you put

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that on yourself. But yeah, I think the fear of

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>man is, and especially in this approval industry, like you

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>want every as many people to approve of you, listen

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>to your song, by your record as humanly possible, and

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>so you want to please everyone. But did you have

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to balance that wanting to please everyone and wanting to

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>stay true to yourself? Is there a fine line? Do

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you think? Yeah? And I think as more the more

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you lean on the true to yourself line, the more

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>successful you'll be. I agree totally. What do you think

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the point of life is? That's a good one, But

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're going to have a great answer

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the point of life? Um, I think it's too. I

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's honestly really based around like showing love in

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the greatest way possible to like, like with my wife,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that the best version of our marriage is

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:24.919
<v Speaker 1>just being sacrificial and um yeah, just like laying down

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 1>my life for her her life or mine. This equal

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>partnership and like for someone who who you know is

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>a single mom or you know, insert any situation there

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>is just using what you have to help and to

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>change their life just because of love, because of compassion

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have you know, in your being, not just

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for anyone else to see it, but just because that's

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>in your heart and that's what you want. I love that. Okay,

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna wrap up so much wisdom radiating out

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of it. Oh gosh, well what is happiness actually? Before

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>we get to our last question? What is happiness to you?

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I think happiness is a choice. I totally agree with that, right,

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>It is totally a choice. You can find happiness in

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>any situation, do you think, even the bad ones. Yeah,

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's usually like it's usually like me having

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like get over my pride. Like we were talking about

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like a four am five am flight. It's like I

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't deserve to be up this early,

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm flying somewhere to play a show because this

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>station is playing my song on the radio and I

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have a top thirty single right now. Yes, you know,

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's awful. Yeah, And so it's just like you

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just gotta look at that stuff every single time. And

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I just know that. I mean, you can find happiness

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>in every situation. I totally agree. Okay, So I like

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to wrap up with leave your light, leave some inspiration

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of how you have been inspired and how you would

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like to inspire the world with your life and whatever

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you're putting out there. Totally. I mean, that's kind of it,

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>like finding finding love and happiness in every situation. And like,

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like with my wife and I, we want to show

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the world what a great marriage looks like. And so

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not I mean, it's not a lot of pressure,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, you know, I I want to be

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the best husband I can every single day, and so

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and the more we show the world pieces of our marriage,

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like, all right, like I can't. I can't suck

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>at being a husband. You know. I got people to

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>like hold your account yeah, to hold me accountable and

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to like inspire and just to show the world God's

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>love and through our marriage. That's awesome. Yeah, okay, so

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>now we're gonna hear yours. Let's do it. Let's hear

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it all Russell Diggers. Yeah, I was a boat stuck

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>in a bottle, never got the chance to toust see

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>just fork out on the shift, no wind, says, going

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>nowhere with no one me. I was one in a

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred billion, a burnout star in a galaxy. I just

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>lost in the sky, wondering why everyone else shines out

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:02.240
<v Speaker 1>with me. But I keep it alife. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>kissed you, pass me as his arms around you. You

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<v Speaker 1>make me better. You know wars before. Thank god your

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<v Speaker 1>I was worn outside of shoes. Just wander in the

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<v Speaker 1>city street, know the face of the crowd, hit looking down,

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the sound of a long anality, empty pockets

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<v Speaker 1>said a rude alway. He's maying in on an out

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<v Speaker 1>space and just live for the speed, hope for the wind,

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<v Speaker 1>go all in just to lose a game. But I

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<v Speaker 1>keep alife. And I first kissed you, Pissley has his

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<v Speaker 1>arms around you. You make me better than I wants before.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, I'm yours. The worst me is still long

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<v Speaker 1>gone memory. You put a new heartbeat inside of me.

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<v Speaker 1>You make me better than ours before. Thaink God out

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<v Speaker 1>your because I was appomed stuck in a bony. I

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<v Speaker 1>never got the chance to touch the scene, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did after when I first kissed you, but best me

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<v Speaker 1>had his arms around you. You make me better than

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<v Speaker 1>ours before. Thank God. I'm the worst. Me is just

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<v Speaker 1>still long gone memory. You put a new heartbeat inside

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<v Speaker 1>of me. You make me better than I before. Thank God,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, thank God, thank God. Your Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some crimes. Talk about that note at the

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<v Speaker 1>end to get it bro, Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me. Everyone, Russell Dickerson, make sure get his single

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<v Speaker 1>Yours EP it that the full album is coming out

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<v Speaker 1>album you can pre order right now. Okay, Y'll check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Russell Jackerson. I know that you love that

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Russell Dickerson. What an inspiring person. He truly

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<v Speaker 1>is walking in his calling and he's just living such

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing life. It was such a pleasure to interview him.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, I have loved having you joined me this

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<v Speaker 1>year with Get Real, the rebrand of my podcast, going

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<v Speaker 1>from Hyper to Get Real. Thank you for following along.

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<v Speaker 1>Next year is just gonna keep getting better and better,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see you in happy holidays.