1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: The games over and there are the world. You plenty 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: to win the game. He's got it. Jet cuts down. 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production e A. We're back in studio 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: here new official Jeff podcast and we got a good 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: show for Jets Nation. Today. We got Jordan's Palmer in 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the hopper. He's gonna be joining us on the pod 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: to discuss all things Sam Donald. Because if you don't know, 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer and Sam Donald and Josh Allen, who is 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: now quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, all worked together in 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: the offseason. Jordan does tremendous things with the top quarterback 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: coming into each year's draft. Last year he worked with 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and this year worked with Donald. Josh Allen. 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: It's just gonna bring that up Green. Where did Kyle go? 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Do you remember? Up right now? That's one thing. I'm 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: pretty sure he signed with the Panthers. He was undrafted, 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: But Kyle Allen went to Houston has no relation to 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And here's a little fun fact, Sam Donald 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, we're both in attendance for the draft 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and Sam actually brought Kyle Allen as a part of 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Day one festivities because all three of them trained together 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: and he wanted them all to be together on that night, 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: even though Kyle did not und then. Yeah, but it's 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: still a very nice gesture from Sam Donald. But regardless 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: of Jordan Palmer worked with all three of these guys. 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and Josh Allen are best friends. We're gonna 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: get into that a little later. They will not be 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: friends when they play each other on Sundays. Don't worry, 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: They're not gonna take it easy. Well, I don't know 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: if they're best friends, but they know they're very good. 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: They definitely forced a great relationship. And Jordan's Palmer is 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: somebody that I've been really trying to tray down for months. 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: We were we were at the NFL owners meetings, and 34 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: we were at the reception greens and the NFL does 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: it right, has this monstrous reception and food everywhere and entertainment, 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: and you know, owners and gms and head coaches and 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: their families and media members, everybody's together. At that moment. 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit uncomfortable about going up and 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: setting up an interview, so I just introduced myself to 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: join briefly because I wanted to talk to him about 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: at a later date about some of the top quarterbacks 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: coming out. And when you know it, the Jets ultimately 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: picked Saint Donald one of his proteges. So now we 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: have Jordan's Palmer lined up for today. So I'm very 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: excited to get a chance to talk to him. But 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I was not going to talk shop too much when 47 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: we're all partaking in, you know, whether it's the food 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: or their festivities and things like that. I just introduced 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: myself quick, and he's a busy guy. You know, he's 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: got family out there in southern California and he does 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: this QB summit. But this should be cool. If there's 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: anyone that knows Sam Donald, it's definitely Jordan Palmer, considering 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: that they spent three months seven together, eating dinner at 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Palmer's house and everything that's encompassed in that. So I 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: think we should just dive in right with j P. 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Jordan Palmer, who knows Sam Donald better 57 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: than anybody at this point after spending a lot of 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: time with him in the pre draft process. Jordan, how 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: much did you know of Sam prior to really working 60 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: with him at QB Summit. Well, you know, I met 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Sammony was fifteen years old. You know, he's just been 62 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a guy that he's a local guy who lives on 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: the street from me and grew up there. And I've 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: been been lucky enough to be a part of a 65 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: thing called a Leada Levin for a long time, and 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: we have a top high school quarterbacks in the country 67 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of top college players in the country 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: come through. And then I started running my own camps 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: called QP Summit, which a lot of young guys and 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: and and a lot of the top college players. So 71 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I've just been able to just gonna stay involved and 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: be helpful at certain times and kind of stay out 73 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: of his way at other times, and just trying to 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: be helpful as I kind of go along their quarterback journey. 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: And and so Sam has had a really fun one 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: and because it's been so luckle, I've been able to 77 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: be really involved. So speaking of Sam, Jordan, there's your 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: two year old son. We can hear him in the background, 79 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and you said that he really grew fond of Sam 80 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: over the last couple of months. In fact, he said 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: he referred to him as his favorite uncle. Yeah, he's 82 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: uncle Sam. Anytime he sees a guy with red hair 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: or he sees a guy with a red shirt, Jordan, 84 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: can you talk about making sam left hand dominant prior 85 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: to the draft? And you know, Green's and I are 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: always talking about basketball who can go to the left hand? 87 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: But what you did and we got a chance to 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: read about that, can you talk about that process because 89 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: people point to Sam's turnovers last year and maybe what 90 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: he was or wasn't doing in the pocket, and that 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: was something that you stressed throughout the spring. Yeah, you know, 92 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I think it was regardless of what the quarterbacks issues 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: are as they go through that draft training program, We're 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: really just trying to figure out what are the biggest 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: areas of need for them to work on, and then 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: how do I put them in a position to do 97 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: that as much as possible. So, you know, if it 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: was Josh Allen who was kind of over striding and 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: stepping too far, I just built a bunch of drills 100 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: that made him step too far so he could really 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: isolate it and work on it. And with Sam, what 102 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: we did very simply is just make sure that he's 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: just kind of held onto the ball with his left 104 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: hand all the time sounds pretty oversimplified, and it is, 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: but it's really just anytime somebody gets comfortable with having 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: one hand on the ball at the time, we try 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: and and isolate that. And so with him, uh, I 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: think I get helped. But but honestly, you know, it's 109 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna come down to, you know, the coaching staff and 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: him making a point of emphasis as he starts his 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: rookie year, and I just don't really see it being 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: an issue. You know, he also took one hand off 113 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the ball and run around and made some amazing plays. 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: You don't want him to lose that edge. And so 115 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be him managing and mitigating 116 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: that risk reward of how he carries the ball in 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: the pocket, because I think the future of the quarterback 118 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: position is the quarterback's ability to create time and space 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to buy more time in the pocket. And you don't 120 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: have to run a four three, and you don't have 121 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to be really tall, and you don't you have to 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: be anything, because I've seen guys like Tony Romo who 123 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: aren't incredible athletes in terms of their quickness and their 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: forty times, but we're very athletic in the pocket and 125 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: could buy time. Kurt Warner is another example. So with 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Sam being that, that's one of the biggest parts of 127 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: his game, and I think it's it's the future of 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: the position. You know. I don't want him to lose 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: a lot of those things that he has, which is 130 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: that creativity in the pocket, and I don't think Coach 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: Bates and the staff does either. He's in really good 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: hands to be able to learn that and honestly learned 133 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: behind Josh mcown because I think Josh is a great 134 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: time of buying time and buying space and he does 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: that through experience in athleticism, and you know, Sam's just 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: in such a good spot to learn all those things 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: and to kind of foster that part of his game. 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: You brought up Josh McCown. I was actually gonna bring 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: that up after that, So thank you for doing that 140 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: for me. But Sam, when he was drafted, mentioned that 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: you had actually talked to him about Josh McCown because 142 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: you played together in Chicago. So how nice of a 143 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: room of a situation is it for Sam to be 144 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: joining a room that has someone like Josh McCown for 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: him to pick his brain, And how important is it 146 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: not only in this case, but in general, for a 147 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: rookie to be able to lean on a veteran like 148 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Josh McCown in his rookie season, it's huge. If there 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: was a draft and you could draft you're veteran quarterback 150 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: to help your high pick rookie like Josh would be 151 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: my first pick in any draft. That'd be like the 152 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: number one overall taken player for me in terms of 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: picking veterans. And I played with some good ones. My 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: brother is a phenomenal VET. Chad Henney is a great VET. 155 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: He's helped borders of time. Very smart for Kansas City 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: to bring him in there, and helped felt Patrick Mahomes. 157 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: He learned from Chad Pennington. So I got a lot 158 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of Chad Pennington stuff. Um, you know, I played with 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Josh McCown. My first veteran guy that I learned from 160 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: was Mark Burnell. What a great VET there. You guys 161 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: have probably spent some time with Mark, and so I 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: just think it's imperative. My brother at John Kitna, Carson 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't play a snap his rookie year. John Kitna Comeback 164 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: Player of the Year eight Nate. And so when you 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: think about how important that position is. I think this 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: would be an interesting study. And I think and if 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: you were to interview really good quarterbacks, current or former players, 168 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: right retired guys, and you asked them name the one 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: person who taught you the most ball, I bet you 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: most of them would say the name of a veteran 171 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: quarterback before they'd say the name of a coach. When 172 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: you get a good veteran around you, you get an 173 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to learn from watching whether they want to help 174 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: you or not. But when you get a good one 175 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: who does want to help you, essentially a coach. Me 176 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: think about it, I had zero starts in the league 177 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and I'm training some of the future of the NFL 178 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: quarterback Jorgan. What do you think of Sam's temperament. This 179 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: kid is twenty years old, and he doesn't seem to 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: be flustered or taken away by the moment per se. 181 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: He looks at he's in the locker room or sixty 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: cameras around him. He says, this is great. But with 183 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: all that being said, he's not a guy who's looking 184 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: for the attention. In fact, he's embracing being around his teammates. 185 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: I see natural leadership qualities in him and he's a 186 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: guy who you know better than most or he wants 187 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: to talk ball and he wants to be on the field. Yeah, 188 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: he's all ball, you guys. You know I, guys, I 189 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: don't want to describe too much of how he is 190 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: and how he's going to be because I want you 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: guys to be able to see it. But I know this, 192 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: it's not going to be the big one. He's not 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: going to get burnt out on it the way that 194 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: other guys get burned out on it. And he's not 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: going to look for it either. He's not going to 196 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: look for that attention. He's not going to make a 197 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: great play and look around and see to make sure 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: that everybody got that on the camera. He just wants 199 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: to play and he has something really cool during the 200 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: interview process. So I work with the guys on their 201 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: interviews and with the teams um like their GM interviews 202 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: and stuff, not not on the media so much. But 203 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I had said, you know, you're gonna have to be 204 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: able to tell these teams why you think you're the 205 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: greatest quarterback ever. And he had a little bit of 206 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: a hard time with it my first year action. I 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: was like concern and then when I heard his answer, 208 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I was like, and it was so genuine. I'm like, 209 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: this is like the best answer I've ever heard. Now, 210 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: he had said, you know, I don't honestly care about 211 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: being the greatest ever. I just want to be on 212 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: a team that went and just went on a run 213 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: and built a dynasty. I want to be the quarterback 214 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: on that team. And these are his words, like, I 215 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: know how important over roll that quarterback is gonna play, 216 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not as concerned with being the greatest player ever. 217 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I want to be the quarterback on the best team ever. 218 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: That was not like how does this answer sound? It 219 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: was more like apologetic, like is this a bad answer? Well, 220 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: wait a second, Like because I know Sam will enough 221 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: to know, like, no, that is genuine. This kid is 222 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: incapable of BS And it's just absolutely what I think 223 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: is gonna play out for you guys. I think that's 224 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: what I think you guys are gonna at some point 225 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: look and go. Man. Jordan was right. That really is 226 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: his that really is his intention, which is just so cool. 227 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: How exciting is it for you to have trained Sam 228 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: and have watched him over the last five or six years, 229 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: the way he's developed and now he's the number three 230 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: overall pick with the Jets. And then you watch another 231 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: one of your protegees there and Josh Allen go number 232 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: seven overall the Buffalo Bills, and maybe, hey, maybe this 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: is going to become a big time a FCS rivalry 234 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: that will be able to watch for five times fifteen years. 235 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: This is absolutely going to become a big time a 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: FC East rivalry. We're gonna be able to watch for 237 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: ten of fifteen years. Absolutely, Josh is a total stud, 238 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: very different players, pretty different personalities. These guys actually became 239 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: best friends. Um, you know, you always hear about these 240 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: things where like the draft party afterwards, it was just 241 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: Sam and Josh and I and a couple of their 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: friends hanging out late. It was just cool, like there, 243 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: that's how they chose to do it, you know. Um, 244 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: these guys are just really really tight And the fact 245 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: that their first reaction after Josh got picked was like, 246 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, when the FC East together, we get 247 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: to play each other twice a year? How cool is this? So? Um, 248 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: this would be really cool. I actually I haven't really 249 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: seen that before. You know, you go through these divisions 250 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: and you go, all right, which of these rival quarterbacks 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: are like really good friends, you know, curarently do that. 252 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Everybody gets along, you know. I'm sure before the game, 253 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: Eli and Carson went to say what's up and how 254 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: you doing and how your kids and all that stuff, 255 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: and it's great. These guys are actually tight. So their 256 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: roommates for three months, but it's not just three months, 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: it's seven three months, you know, and so it's so cool. 258 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: And and they just have such a respect for each other. 259 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Josh's path was not a normal one, no offers to 260 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: go all that, so Sam has so much respect for him. 261 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: And then Josh has so much respect for a guy 262 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: because Sam's kind of from a small town too. They've 263 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: shared and they've had lots of deep conversations that I 264 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: don't even know about. It's really cool. So Josh has 265 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: so much respect for Sam for different reasons that this 266 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: is a really special thing. So for me to encapsulate 267 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: how I feel about that, you know sentence, I don't 268 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: think it's possible. And what were the followers like at 269 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: the house you guys set up for for a few months. Uh? 270 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I read a couple of stories about them playing Fortnite 271 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: and also uh also quoting from movies and their personalities. 272 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: Real they took off is that they got a chance 273 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: to know each other more. And like you said, it's 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: got to be awesome for you to see how much 275 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: respect in the genuine likeness they have for each other. Yeah, 276 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: it's it's real. It's um and they competed every day 277 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: to write. I mean, they both think they're the best 278 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: player in the draft, which is great. Do you want that? 279 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that any other way. It was just 280 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: never an issue, was never awkward. One guy had a 281 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: better day than the other guy. It was just support 282 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and then the guy who didn't have the better day 283 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: would probably figure out how he was gonna beat him 284 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the next day. You know. It was just really cool. 285 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: You know, I played a long time and in this 286 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: last three months ters about as much fun as I've 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: had doing football stuff as I've ever had. About that, 288 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: without giving away secrets, what makes your interaction with the 289 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks coming up unique? Jordan? You have that the 290 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: determinous experience. You just mentioned. You didn't take a snap 291 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, but you played for seven 292 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: eight years. Know everybody, what makes your camp unique as 293 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: far as maybe the philosophy and also from a drill perspective. Well, 294 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it starts with I'm living in my purpose. 295 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: So my purpose is used my experiences on and off 296 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: the field to help entrepreneurs maximize their opportunities on off 297 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the field. So I really only worked with the quarterbacks 298 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: that I think treating their career like a business. And 299 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: I have some high school kids to do that, and 300 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: so I don't really do a lot of private training. 301 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Is not my full time job. I have a business unrelated. 302 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: So I really like to the kids who see this 303 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: as the opportunity to take that next step in their life. 304 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: And and and you don't play football forever. My brother just 305 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: retired the thirty nine. It's got two year old son. 306 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of LFE left. And so really 307 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: positioning yourself to squeeze everything you can out of your 308 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: football career, whether that means starting one game your senior year, 309 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: or being the third pick in the draft, or you 310 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: know Carson who's statistically like the twelfth greatest quarterback of 311 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: all time, whatever your journey is, you know, I really 312 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: want to use my experiences to help them maximize our opportunities. 313 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: And so it comes from that place. And then the 314 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: second you know, I know as much as what it 315 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: takes to be a franchise quarterback of I think anyone 316 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: in the world ever who wasn't a franchise quarterback because 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't just my brother who was one, but I, 318 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, I did play, you know, a better part 319 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: of eight years around some really good ones. And and 320 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: I also backed my brother up for three years, and 321 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: I intimately know the things that he went through more 322 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: so than most backups now. And this is my best friend. 323 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: So there's just so much stuff that happens that I've 324 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: been exposed to that I can share before it happens, 325 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: but also can be there, you know, during the high 326 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: times and the low times and uh. And so that's 327 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: been something that's been really really valuable for me to 328 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: help these guys on their journey and and I just 329 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed doing it a lot. Well, that's fabulous insight. We 330 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: really enjoyed catching up with you, and thanks for coming 331 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: out in the pot. Thanks guys. Great talking to Jordan Palmer. 332 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, tremendous insight really from someone spent three months 333 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald and we didn't talk about this with him, 334 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: but I heard on a separate interview that when Jordan's 335 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: first met Sam Donald, he called him a dead ringer 336 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: for his brother Carson Palmer. As far as what he 337 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: looked like or the player, I think he just met 338 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: kind of like an all encompassing kind of thing, because 339 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: remember we just talked to him about it, and I 340 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: think I was aware of that before, even before I 341 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: asked that question. Southern California's football is big, obviously, and 342 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Jordan was familiar with Donald at fifteen, so he must 343 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: have been a pretty darn good athlete at fifteen probably. 344 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about this before. He played linebacker 345 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: in high school. He was a point guard. Actually, Trent Dilford, 346 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: who was the first point guards average he's like you, 347 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: probably because you know you like to put the ball up. 348 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: The guy average more than a game. If you're a 349 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: point guard, average is more than twenty a game. Are 350 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: you a point guard? Is that what you're saying, Well, 351 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: he's James Harden a point guard. You're like a one 352 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: slash two. You're everything it No, Cheese Hard is not 353 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: a point guard. Chris Paul is a point guard. Is 354 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons a point guard? It's a great question. But regardless, 355 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: Sam Donald played point guard I don't know what his 356 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: teammates were like, so maybe he needed to score. But 357 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: he's a big guy to my mom said that after 358 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: I interviewed him and said, wow, he's such a big guy, 359 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and I said, well, mom, I'm not that big of 360 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: a guy. Okay, well neither mi. But so so so 361 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: what Jordan's said there, and I tend to agree with this, 362 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: is that he thinks the NFL is changing. He thinks 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are going to have to make plays out 364 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: of the pocket. So are we seeing as like, uh, 365 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: the old hockey analogy. I used to play goalie grown up, 366 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: and folks used to talk about the stand up goalie. 367 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a stand up goalie anymore. 368 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Everybody pretty much in the National Hockey League is now 369 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: a butterfly goaltender. So now are we gonna be talking 370 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: in ten years as far as our or any true 371 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: prototypical pass remain. Do they remain or are they going 372 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: to be dinosaurs? Because our guys like Donald who listen, 373 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't live out of the pocket. But the big 374 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: key there is that he can win and succeed on 375 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: Sundays because he doesn't need to necessarily stay in there 376 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: he can make plays off script. I guess we'll find 377 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: out in both Donald's case and the evolution of the NFL. 378 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: But I think that what Palmer is saying is true 379 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: is that if you look at the quarterbacks coming out, 380 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Rosen was the purest passer, but he 381 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the most mobile. However, there are a lot of 382 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: guys that are like that anymore coming out of college. 383 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: And I mean we'll see, I mean not only the quarterbacks, 384 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: but you know, Charles Davis at the Common said the 385 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: running back renaissance is real, and a couple of years 386 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: ago we were talking about that the running backs are 387 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: no longer as important as a once were. So what 388 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: we'll see, it's a constant evolution. And that's just the 389 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: way the NFL go. Four quarterbacks. One of the top ten. 390 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned Rosen, and he's the guy who's most likely 391 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: to try and to beat you from that pocket position. 392 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield has tremendous feet. He's gonna make the 393 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: transition from Oklahoma's offense. But he's an accurate pastor. But 394 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: he can buy time. We know Donald can buy time. 395 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: We know Donald can also pick up yards down the 396 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: field with his feet, he's tough, he's got more of 397 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: a bigger body. And he also had some interesting comments 398 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. There because Josh Allen, people are like, oh, 399 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: he's just an arm He's a really good athlete. You 400 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: might get you might see the Bill sometimes dialing up 401 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: some of r p os for Josh Allen. He's told 402 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: forty Time will Tell not only the NFL but other 403 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: official Jets podcasts. That's all We got big thanks to 404 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer hit us up on Twitter, Ellen Jets, Ethan 405 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: Greeney Jets. That's all Ethan Greeney. Yeah, I'm changing it. 406 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Eat Greenberg though. H