Speaker 1: So I'm obsessed with Ben Affleck and the new Duncan
Speaker 1: campaign Ice Spice, Munchkin's drink. Ben Affleck is in his
Speaker 1: best error. He's just his Duncan era is his best era.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous and he's leaning into it and he's hysterical
Speaker 1: and he so doesn't give a ship but he's never
Speaker 1: given a ship. But it's so authentically who he is.
Speaker 1: And he gets like he gets to speak to his
Speaker 1: Boston boys, like he gets to be running a fucking
Speaker 1: Duncan bro Like it's just amazing. And I just I'm
Speaker 1: watching it like a TV show. I love Duncan. I
Speaker 1: think they're winning. I think it's smart. I'm just so team.
Speaker 1: I'm just so about it. I'm just so about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm giving you know, it shows why Jennifer Lopez
Speaker 1: he's the one who got to win. She's been in
Speaker 1: love with him for years, ever since they broke up.
Speaker 1: He's like that, like bad boy, high school boy. Ben
Speaker 1: doesn't give a good fuck. He's drinking a latte, walking
Speaker 1: down the street, being funny, and I'm so team all
Speaker 1: of it. I really, really really am. I'm living for it.
Speaker 1: So go j Lo, Go Ben, Go duncan Ah, Did
Speaker 1: you have a problem with the fact that Justin Bieber
Speaker 1: wore pajamas to a Krispy Kream event with Hailey Bieber
Speaker 1: when she wore a hot red dress like women were like,
Speaker 1: I would break up with my boyfriend if he wore this.
Speaker 1: She had an event because I guess of her road
Speaker 1: skincare a glazed skin like it's like a glazed donut.
Speaker 1: You want that glaze, I get it, Like to make
Speaker 1: that like that's like a new look, like that shiny
Speaker 1: glaze donut look in skincare. I'm a beauty influencer, obviously
Speaker 1: I know what that is. So she had an event
Speaker 1: at Krispy Kreme, I get invited to an event. If
Speaker 1: I got invited to an event at Krispy Kreme for
Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber, I get the As a beauty influencer, I
Speaker 1: get the invitation. It says Krispy Green, they sent you donuts,
Speaker 1: and you're going in. I would wear a cute pink
Speaker 1: sweater because I think it was supposed to be like
Speaker 1: strawberry glaze. Maybe they sent out strawberry glaze. I don't know,
Speaker 1: something like that. I would wear a cute pink sweater.
Speaker 1: Jeans and cute fancy sneakers or like a little heel,
Speaker 1: or like a Arima's clog or something like, I'd look cute.
Speaker 1: I'd have like a colorful Arima's bag. I'd pink bubblegum
Speaker 1: Chanell bag. I'd be like, I'm going to a donut store.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. But it's a skincare event. And Justin Moore,
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't crazy what he wore, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of what he does. He does that anyway, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that he was more
Speaker 1: inappropriately dressed than her. I think they were both inappropriately
Speaker 1: dressed for the same event. I don't think they were
Speaker 1: discussed with each other where they were going, and I
Speaker 1: don't think they discussed with themselves where they were going.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon workplace Okay, Jimmy Fallon has a talk show.
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone did a whole article on the workplace conditions,
Speaker 1: separate accounts of their treatment there. They are good Jimmy days,
Speaker 1: they are a bad Jimmy days. And we had this
Speaker 1: happen with the Ellen Show during the pandemic when everybody
Speaker 1: was home not working. Another time, now it's the strike
Speaker 1: people are home, not working, and so things are coming out.
Speaker 1: Here's all I'll say about Jimmy Fallon. I spoke to
Speaker 1: someone very high up in the power of the power
Speaker 1: of that show in the very beginning before it aired
Speaker 1: that said to me, the only problem that could ever
Speaker 1: happen would be Jimmy's party. Okay, like that would be
Speaker 1: the thing that could be like the Achilles heel or
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right term is. Okay, people
Speaker 1: like the boy next door Jimmy and the shucks Jimmy,
Speaker 1: et cetera. He's like, you know, the moms love that
Speaker 1: cute OUs shuck's boy, Okay, which I agree. Now I
Speaker 1: know Jimmy, not like we're best friends. I don't think
Speaker 1: I have his phone number on my phone, but I
Speaker 1: see him in the Hamptons. I like his wife. His
Speaker 1: wife is partners with Drew Barrymore. His wife is nice.
Speaker 1: When you see them, they're very pleasant, They're very fun,
Speaker 1: They're very genuine. One night I did karaoke with Jimmy
Speaker 1: years ago with another friend. I've been on his show
Speaker 1: many times. He comes into your dressing room. They have
Speaker 1: a book that you signed, but he comes into your
Speaker 1: dressing room he greets you. He's really really like animated
Speaker 1: and charming in a way that is so nice and
Speaker 1: so pleasant for the guest, but seems like it would
Speaker 1: be exhausting for the host. Meaning it's very important for
Speaker 1: him to be liked and to have a good image
Speaker 1: because he's a host and he was taking over the
Speaker 1: Tonight Show, and that seems like a lot of wasn't
Speaker 1: it the Tonight Show? Jimmy found Tonight Show, Chip and
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of pressure. You're at thirty
Speaker 1: Rock and it like a lot of pressure. I also
Speaker 1: believe that that any of those shows, I mean there
Speaker 1: have been I think there've been. It's document there have
Speaker 1: been documentaries on the Late Night Wars. There was a
Speaker 1: whole series on like when it was Letterman Versus Leno.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very intense and a lot of pressure,
Speaker 1: not unlike the Today Show against Kelly or Gma against
Speaker 1: the Today Show. Like it's a very intense place. And also,
Speaker 1: mainstream television is a dying breed. So I will say
Speaker 1: that if there was improper treatment behind the scenes at
Speaker 1: that talk show, that's obviously something to be addressed. I
Speaker 1: know that Jimmy apologized. I think he got on a
Speaker 1: video or a call and apologize to everyone. And for
Speaker 1: some reason, whatever reason that is, I don't think that
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon should be canceled. Like I from what I've experienced,
Speaker 1: and I've met him probably ten to twelve times, ten times,
Speaker 1: he's always been very, very kind, and he's always seemed
Speaker 1: you know, I asked him to do my podcast. I've
Speaker 1: done his show many times. I asked them to do
Speaker 1: my podcast. He said to me in person at topping goes,
Speaker 1: you don't want me. I don't really do much whatever
Speaker 1: I leave, like at the very least, like that was upfront.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, yeah, sure, call my people and then
Speaker 1: like it's not gonna happen. I wanted him to say yes,
Speaker 1: because I've done his shows, but I need him and
Speaker 1: he doesn't need me, like I needed to do his
Speaker 1: shows and he doesn't need to do me. But that's
Speaker 1: his prerogative and he's upfront. But every experience I've ever
Speaker 1: had with Jimmy Fallon has been a positive one. But
Speaker 1: it has always been in my mind that it must
Speaker 1: be so exhausting to be like so cheery and so
Speaker 1: positive and so on on like on and liked and
Speaker 1: like a variety show like I've done it, and he's dancing,
Speaker 1: and he just you could tell he wants to be
Speaker 1: like I just don't know the behind the scenes. I'm
Speaker 1: not pretending that I know anything and that and again,
Speaker 1: if I learned anything from the Danny Masterson and victims
Speaker 1: speaking out, I know that the people who have complained
Speaker 1: and been in the article about Jimmy Fallon, I am
Speaker 1: airing on the side of them all being valid claims
Speaker 1: about the workplace environment and have they been treated. But
Speaker 1: I'm betting on Jimmy Fallon to either exit, which I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll do. He's not He's not James Cordon
Speaker 1: who decided to just leave because of his family and
Speaker 1: like move back and didn't want to do it anymore
Speaker 1: and left a lot of money on the table. I
Speaker 1: don't see Jimmy as that. I see Jimmy as wanting
Speaker 1: to entertain. I see Jimmy as like, you know, taking
Speaker 1: a hiatus, getting maybe help that he needs or wants,
Speaker 1: or can you know, getting maybe maybe some some therapy
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, it is a it is a
Speaker 1: it is a strike. So they're off anyway. But I
Speaker 1: do believe and I didn't see his apology. I didn't
Speaker 1: go look at it. Uh. I do believe that whatever
Speaker 1: he said and apologize about, I just my every experience
Speaker 1: I've ever had with Jimmy Fallon and his wife, I
Speaker 1: have enjoyed, particularly the type of hosts he has, And
Speaker 1: many of you would also say, oh, well, of course
Speaker 1: you're someone and you're famous. He's treating the people in
Speaker 1: the background a different way, and I do get I'm
Speaker 1: accounting for that as well. There's an energy at all
Speaker 1: these different shows. I've been on all of them. There's
Speaker 1: a different energy on the Today Show as there is
Speaker 1: on GMA. There's a different energy on Kelly and Mark
Speaker 1: as there is with Hoda and Jenna. Like, there's a
Speaker 1: different energy at all the different shows. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: accounting for that. I don't know what it's like behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, and there's no excuse for it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying when I think about it, it's not like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my God, couldn't happened to a better person. Like I
Speaker 1: think like, oh, the pressure probably really got to him.
Speaker 1: He was probably extraordinarily stressed. And the landscape has changed too.
Speaker 1: People don't watch TV the same way they used to.
Speaker 1: The pressure's there and he doesn't do as well. Ratings
Speaker 1: don't do as well, and stand up comics or people
Speaker 1: that you know want to perform. They've got to perform,
Speaker 1: and there's a sadness inside and you never know what's
Speaker 1: going on with someone. So I'm just saying I don't
Speaker 1: want to be for cancel culture. And I'm treading lightly
Speaker 1: because I don't know everything about the behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to say, oh that you
Speaker 1: know that I'm defending someone who was abusive in the workplace,
Speaker 1: and I don't need to comment on it, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. There was something about it that made me
Speaker 1: want to comment on it. I saw a clip. I
Speaker 1: talked about it the other day, but I saw that
Speaker 1: clip where Ashton Kutcher and Miela were joking about the
Speaker 1: fact that she was fourteen and he was nineteen. They
Speaker 1: were supposed to kiss in a scene and he and
Speaker 1: Danny Masterson plotted for it to be a French kiss.
Speaker 1: It was like a bet. I understand that between bros
Speaker 1: young bros. I don't understand that between young bros about
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old because that's fucking creepy, and I,
Speaker 1: as a thirteen year old daughter's mother, I certainly think
Speaker 1: it's creepy. But what I really have to keep talking
Speaker 1: about is what we're consuming and that it was okay
Speaker 1: for the viewers. Back then it was okay for the
Speaker 1: viewers that would not be it might you know, it
Speaker 1: might be okay Now it might not be okay. But
Speaker 1: that's why I fight back when people talk about reality
Speaker 1: TV they signed up for What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 1: People don't sign up for things that are wrong, Like,
Speaker 1: they don't sign up for things that are wrong, nor
Speaker 1: does the production behind. So I just want to keep
Speaker 1: talking about what we're consuming, that we're consuming, that we
Speaker 1: would that things aren't okay if they're not okay. And
Speaker 1: back then, Rosie O'Donnell was sitting right there. Back then,
Speaker 1: every night Jay Leno made jokes about things he probably
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to. What are we missing now? What are
Speaker 1: we doing now in entertainment that in ten years will
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I can't believe they were
Speaker 1: able to do that. What on reality TV? I can't
Speaker 1: believe they were able to abuse someone like that. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they were able to force you know, to
Speaker 1: get you know, get someone drunk or drug someone. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they were able to climb on top of
Speaker 1: someone naked. I can't believe, Like, what's the stuff that
Speaker 1: we're doing now that we're watching under the guise of
Speaker 1: it being entertainment. That won't be okay.