1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm obsessed with Ben Affleck and the new Duncan 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: campaign Ice Spice, Munchkin's drink. Ben Affleck is in his 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: best error. He's just his Duncan era is his best era. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous and he's leaning into it and he's hysterical 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: and he so doesn't give a ship but he's never 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: given a ship. But it's so authentically who he is. 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: And he gets like he gets to speak to his 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Boston boys, like he gets to be running a fucking 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Duncan bro Like it's just amazing. And I just I'm 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: watching it like a TV show. I love Duncan. I 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: think they're winning. I think it's smart. I'm just so team. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm just so about it. I'm just so about it, 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: and I'm giving you know, it shows why Jennifer Lopez 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: he's the one who got to win. She's been in 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: love with him for years, ever since they broke up. 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: He's like that, like bad boy, high school boy. Ben 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: doesn't give a good fuck. He's drinking a latte, walking 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: down the street, being funny, and I'm so team all 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: of it. I really, really really am. I'm living for it. 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: So go j Lo, Go Ben, Go duncan Ah, Did 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: you have a problem with the fact that Justin Bieber 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: wore pajamas to a Krispy Kream event with Hailey Bieber 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: when she wore a hot red dress like women were like, 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: I would break up with my boyfriend if he wore this. 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: She had an event because I guess of her road 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: skincare a glazed skin like it's like a glazed donut. 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: You want that glaze, I get it, Like to make 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: that like that's like a new look, like that shiny 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: glaze donut look in skincare. I'm a beauty influencer, obviously 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I know what that is. So she had an event 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: at Krispy Kreme, I get invited to an event. If 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I got invited to an event at Krispy Kreme for 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber, I get the As a beauty influencer, I 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: get the invitation. It says Krispy Green, they sent you donuts, 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: and you're going in. I would wear a cute pink 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: sweater because I think it was supposed to be like 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: strawberry glaze. Maybe they sent out strawberry glaze. I don't know, 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: something like that. I would wear a cute pink sweater. 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Jeans and cute fancy sneakers or like a little heel, 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: or like a Arima's clog or something like, I'd look cute. 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: I'd have like a colorful Arima's bag. I'd pink bubblegum 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Chanell bag. I'd be like, I'm going to a donut store. 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: It's so cute. But it's a skincare event. And Justin Moore, 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't crazy what he wore, but that's 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: kind of what he does. He does that anyway, So 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that he was more 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: inappropriately dressed than her. I think they were both inappropriately 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: dressed for the same event. I don't think they were 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: discussed with each other where they were going, and I 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: don't think they discussed with themselves where they were going. 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon workplace Okay, Jimmy Fallon has a talk show. 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone did a whole article on the workplace conditions, 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: separate accounts of their treatment there. They are good Jimmy days, 54 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: they are a bad Jimmy days. And we had this 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: happen with the Ellen Show during the pandemic when everybody 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: was home not working. Another time, now it's the strike 57 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: people are home, not working, and so things are coming out. 58 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Here's all I'll say about Jimmy Fallon. I spoke to 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: someone very high up in the power of the power 60 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: of that show in the very beginning before it aired 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: that said to me, the only problem that could ever 62 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: happen would be Jimmy's party. Okay, like that would be 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: the thing that could be like the Achilles heel or 64 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what the right term is. Okay, people 65 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: like the boy next door Jimmy and the shucks Jimmy, 66 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: et cetera. He's like, you know, the moms love that 67 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: cute OUs shuck's boy, Okay, which I agree. Now I 68 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: know Jimmy, not like we're best friends. I don't think 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I have his phone number on my phone, but I 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: see him in the Hamptons. I like his wife. His 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: wife is partners with Drew Barrymore. His wife is nice. 72 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: When you see them, they're very pleasant, They're very fun, 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: They're very genuine. One night I did karaoke with Jimmy 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: years ago with another friend. I've been on his show 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: many times. He comes into your dressing room. They have 76 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: a book that you signed, but he comes into your 77 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: dressing room he greets you. He's really really like animated 78 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and charming in a way that is so nice and 79 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: so pleasant for the guest, but seems like it would 80 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: be exhausting for the host. Meaning it's very important for 81 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: him to be liked and to have a good image 82 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: because he's a host and he was taking over the 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Tonight Show, and that seems like a lot of wasn't 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: it the Tonight Show? Jimmy found Tonight Show, Chip and 85 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of pressure. You're at thirty 86 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Rock and it like a lot of pressure. I also 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: believe that that any of those shows, I mean there 88 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: have been I think there've been. It's document there have 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: been documentaries on the Late Night Wars. There was a 90 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: whole series on like when it was Letterman Versus Leno. 91 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very intense and a lot of pressure, 92 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: not unlike the Today Show against Kelly or Gma against 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: the Today Show. Like it's a very intense place. And also, 94 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: mainstream television is a dying breed. So I will say 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: that if there was improper treatment behind the scenes at 96 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: that talk show, that's obviously something to be addressed. I 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: know that Jimmy apologized. I think he got on a 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: video or a call and apologize to everyone. And for 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: some reason, whatever reason that is, I don't think that 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon should be canceled. Like I from what I've experienced, 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: and I've met him probably ten to twelve times, ten times, 102 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: he's always been very, very kind, and he's always seemed 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, I asked him to do my podcast. I've 104 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: done his show many times. I asked them to do 105 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: my podcast. He said to me in person at topping goes, 106 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: you don't want me. I don't really do much whatever 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I leave, like at the very least, like that was upfront. 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: He wasn't like, yeah, sure, call my people and then 109 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: like it's not gonna happen. I wanted him to say yes, 110 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: because I've done his shows, but I need him and 111 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't need me, like I needed to do his 112 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: shows and he doesn't need to do me. But that's 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: his prerogative and he's upfront. But every experience I've ever 114 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: had with Jimmy Fallon has been a positive one. But 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: it has always been in my mind that it must 116 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: be so exhausting to be like so cheery and so 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: positive and so on on like on and liked and 118 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: like a variety show like I've done it, and he's dancing, 119 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: and he just you could tell he wants to be 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: like I just don't know the behind the scenes. I'm 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: not pretending that I know anything and that and again, 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: if I learned anything from the Danny Masterson and victims 123 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: speaking out, I know that the people who have complained 124 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and been in the article about Jimmy Fallon, I am 125 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: airing on the side of them all being valid claims 126 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: about the workplace environment and have they been treated. But 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm betting on Jimmy Fallon to either exit, which I 128 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: don't think he'll do. He's not He's not James Cordon 129 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: who decided to just leave because of his family and 130 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: like move back and didn't want to do it anymore 131 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: and left a lot of money on the table. I 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: don't see Jimmy as that. I see Jimmy as wanting 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: to entertain. I see Jimmy as like, you know, taking 134 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: a hiatus, getting maybe help that he needs or wants, 135 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: or can you know, getting maybe maybe some some therapy 136 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: or something. I mean, it is a it is a 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: it is a strike. So they're off anyway. But I 138 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: do believe and I didn't see his apology. I didn't 139 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: go look at it. Uh. I do believe that whatever 140 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: he said and apologize about, I just my every experience 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I've ever had with Jimmy Fallon and his wife, I 142 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: have enjoyed, particularly the type of hosts he has, And 143 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: many of you would also say, oh, well, of course 144 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: you're someone and you're famous. He's treating the people in 145 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: the background a different way, and I do get I'm 146 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: accounting for that as well. There's an energy at all 147 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: these different shows. I've been on all of them. There's 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: a different energy on the Today Show as there is 149 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: on GMA. There's a different energy on Kelly and Mark 150 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: as there is with Hoda and Jenna. Like, there's a 151 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: different energy at all the different shows. So I'm I'm 152 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: accounting for that. I don't know what it's like behind 153 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: the scenes, and there's no excuse for it. I'm just 154 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: saying when I think about it, it's not like I'm like, oh, 155 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: my God, couldn't happened to a better person. Like I 156 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: think like, oh, the pressure probably really got to him. 157 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: He was probably extraordinarily stressed. And the landscape has changed too. 158 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: People don't watch TV the same way they used to. 159 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: The pressure's there and he doesn't do as well. Ratings 160 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: don't do as well, and stand up comics or people 161 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: that you know want to perform. They've got to perform, 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: and there's a sadness inside and you never know what's 163 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: going on with someone. So I'm just saying I don't 164 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: want to be for cancel culture. And I'm treading lightly 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: because I don't know everything about the behind the scenes, 166 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to say, oh that you 167 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: know that I'm defending someone who was abusive in the workplace, 168 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: and I don't need to comment on it, but I 169 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: don't know. There was something about it that made me 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: want to comment on it. I saw a clip. I 171 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: talked about it the other day, but I saw that 172 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: clip where Ashton Kutcher and Miela were joking about the 173 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: fact that she was fourteen and he was nineteen. They 174 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: were supposed to kiss in a scene and he and 175 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Danny Masterson plotted for it to be a French kiss. 176 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: It was like a bet. I understand that between bros 177 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: young bros. I don't understand that between young bros about 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old because that's fucking creepy, and I, 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: as a thirteen year old daughter's mother, I certainly think 180 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: it's creepy. But what I really have to keep talking 181 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: about is what we're consuming and that it was okay 182 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: for the viewers. Back then it was okay for the 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: viewers that would not be it might you know, it 184 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: might be okay Now it might not be okay. But 185 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: that's why I fight back when people talk about reality 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: TV they signed up for What the fuck does that mean? 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: People don't sign up for things that are wrong, Like, 188 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: they don't sign up for things that are wrong, nor 189 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: does the production behind. So I just want to keep 190 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: talking about what we're consuming, that we're consuming, that we 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: would that things aren't okay if they're not okay. And 192 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: back then, Rosie O'Donnell was sitting right there. Back then, 193 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: every night Jay Leno made jokes about things he probably 194 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to. What are we missing now? What are 195 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: we doing now in entertainment that in ten years will 196 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I can't believe they were 197 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: able to do that. What on reality TV? I can't 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: believe they were able to abuse someone like that. I 199 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: can't believe they were able to force you know, to 200 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: get you know, get someone drunk or drug someone. I 201 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: can't believe they were able to climb on top of 202 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: someone naked. I can't believe, Like, what's the stuff that 203 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: we're doing now that we're watching under the guise of 204 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: it being entertainment. That won't be okay.