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Speaker 1: Wrong b and sing. Welcome to another exciting episode of

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Speaker 1: the Run Burgundy Podcast with me as always is my

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Speaker 1: co host, Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Casey Novak. Great to

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Speaker 1: be here with you, as always, Casey, it's Carolina, not

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Speaker 1: a d a Casey Novak. I think that's a fictional

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Speaker 1: character from Law and Order Special Victims Unit. You know what,

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Speaker 1: You're right. I'm sorry about the picks up. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how I made that mistake. I actually know

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Speaker 1: exactly how you made that mistake, and it's because you've

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Speaker 1: been falling asleep to old s VU reruns again. I

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Speaker 1: know your schedule. Yes, okay, fine, you got me. It

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Speaker 1: was a slip of the tongue, Carolina. I like s you.

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Speaker 1: I keep it on in the background while I build

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Speaker 1: my shipwrecks in bottles. You mean ships and bottles. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I put a ship in a bottle and then I

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Speaker 1: smashed it against the wall. Oh. Um, So this is

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Speaker 1: actually one of the things we'll be talking about today. Um.

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Speaker 1: This episode is centered on hobbies. We're going to explore

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Speaker 1: different kinds of hobbies. Will share some of ours, and

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Speaker 1: we'll hear about the hobbies of some of our listeners. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right, our listeners. Hobbies like, for instance, talking to

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Speaker 1: a beautiful woman online until eventually realizing you've been catfished.

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Speaker 1: That's not really a hobby. Why why did you say that?

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Speaker 1: Did that happen to you? Um? Ron? No? Um? Sorry, Ron,

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Speaker 1: that's that's terrible. You know what, I want to get

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Speaker 1: this off my chest. It will make me feel better,

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Speaker 1: it might warn others out there, and it will also

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Speaker 1: explain why I goofed up and introduced you as Manhattan

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Speaker 1: Assistant District Attorney Casey Novak. Yeah, what happened there? Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. I was talking to a woman online

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Speaker 1: who I thought was actress Diane Neil, who I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you all know played the role of A d A.

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Speaker 1: Casey Novak on Law and Order s VU from two

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Speaker 1: thousand three to two thousand eight. Wow, this is very formal.

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Speaker 1: She returned for a few episodes in the two thousand

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Speaker 1: eleven two thousand twelve season, but that's not really important. No,

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Speaker 1: we can just move on. She also appeared in a

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Speaker 1: season three episode as a murderer named Amelia Chase before

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Speaker 1: that's really beside the point and we can't get into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't need a breakdown of all of this. I,

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Speaker 1: like so many of you out there, watch all of

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Speaker 1: chatting online with the actress who played Casey Novak. Turns

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Speaker 1: out it wasn't her. That's generally what happened. It was

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Speaker 1: it was a catfish situation and terribly embarrassing. Did you

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Speaker 1: that she was a cat ish? No, it didn't get

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Speaker 1: to that. And this is where I need to thank

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Speaker 1: the folks at I Heart Radio. I had them run

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Speaker 1: the I P address of everyone who listens to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and then with the help of law enforcement, I subpoena

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Speaker 1: the records attached to every IP address and matched it

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Speaker 1: with a name. That's insane. There are so many people

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Speaker 1: listening to this show, yes, hundreds of thousands, maybe a

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Speaker 1: million or so. But I caught the catfish. So let

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Speaker 1: me just say this, Jim Carlson, you are not actress

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Speaker 1: Diane Neil. He knows that you are nothing but a

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old punk from Scottsdale, Arizona. And how dare

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Speaker 1: you take advantage of my heart the way you did.

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Speaker 1: Shame on you, young man. So that's one of your

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Speaker 1: hobbies or something that happened to you getting catfished? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. I'm so sorry that happened, Ron. And and

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe the real Diane Neil will hear this

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Speaker 1: The Menendez brothers are the two brothers? Okay, okay, Ron,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's any data privacy issues with us

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Speaker 1: when you want to return, Our arms are wide open.

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Speaker 1: Unlike the Jim Carlson's out there, I won't trick you

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Speaker 1: Tacky photos? All right, Yes, again, today's episode is about hobbies.

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Speaker 1: We were curious about hobbies. Yes, hobbies, not hobos, which

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Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be about hoboes. But it's hobbies.

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Speaker 1: We were curious about what some of our listeners do

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Speaker 1: for fun and to relax. Obviously, we all had a

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Speaker 1: lot of downtime last year, and people probably picked up

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Speaker 1: looking forward to trying some hobbies they didn't have access

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Speaker 1: to before. Yes, and as I previously explained. Yes, earlier

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Speaker 1: lively debate with the statue of Lincoln. But in any case, yes,

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Speaker 1: I was there, and I was sucked into an ugly

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Speaker 1: and proceeded to experience what my defense attorney calls heard mentality.

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Speaker 1: really clear about what makes a hobby, because, as people know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a man of many talents. Broadcast journalism, commercial and

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Speaker 1: is due. Well, music is more of a hobby for

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Speaker 1: you than it is your actual job. Excuse me. Have

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Speaker 1: But were you paid for your work as a musician.

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Speaker 1: It's really not polite to ask people about money, Carolina. However, yes,

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Speaker 1: Prianka is lovely. Anyway, I played my flute and then

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Speaker 1: It's a song about being sad and hot, and I

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Speaker 1: I was I was wrong, Make no mistake. Music is

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Speaker 1: not a hobby for me. Well, playing backup flute for

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Speaker 1: Nick Jonas is a hobby and one of my mini professions. Well,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea you were that close with Nick Jonas. Well,

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Speaker 1: track drops. By the way, that's what a professional musician says.

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Speaker 1: we're not here to talk about my multifaceted career. We're

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Speaker 1: here to talk about hobbies. Right back on track. Hobbies

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Speaker 1: and one of the hobbies I've taken up in the

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Speaker 1: Law and Order reruns for that. Those aren't things you

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Do you have any hobbies? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Last year, while not storming the Capital, I took up knitting.

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Speaker 1: sounds really on brand, don't. Well. See now we're talking hobbies.

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Speaker 1: You've taken up knitting and sewing, and I've been practicing

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Speaker 1: and there's a vibrant online community to engage with. There's

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Speaker 1: am goofing around firefighter. Yes. The one thing that is

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Speaker 1: crystal myth? Sorry, this is a hobby for some people

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Speaker 1: not making crystal methods? Of course not, of course not.

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Speaker 1: That's illegal, immoral and dangerous. Okay, that's good. Plus, you

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's just cool and fun. And also I've

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Speaker 1: shoot out pink or blue. Yes, it's really led to

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Speaker 1: to a lot of smiles. I'm sorry. What website taught

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Speaker 1: knitting as a hobby. I've been making fireworks, Carolina, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you, And they are spectacular. I have some

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