1 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, Well, this just feels good. How's everybody 2 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: doing today? I know we're in a pandemic time, but 3 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: it's Ian Smith here and I'm back hosting another episode 4 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: of Earning Their Stripes for the first time in way 5 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: too long. I'm alongside my good friend Lewis Devilla today 6 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: and we're going to start off today's episode by giving 7 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: him a massive congratulations for graduating the University of Florida 8 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. So I just wanted to say that, 9 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: and congratulations Lewis. How are you doing today? 10 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Thank you. I'm happy to be back 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: talking about baseball again. It's been a while, so really excited. 12 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, with that being said, we're bringing back a special 13 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: guest for you this week, and it couldn't couldn't have 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: came at a better time. We have for you today, 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Baseball America's Draft guru, Carlos Glazo to the show today 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to talk twenty twenty draft and of course the More 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Orleans Prospects. How you doing today, my friend, I'm doing great. 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: Guys, thanks for having me and let us Congrats on 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: the graduation. That's awesome. 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Well man, it's been it's been It's been a crazy 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I know the draft news just 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: came out this past week, and I just want to 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: know how disappointed you already here that we're just going 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: to be five rounds this year. 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, considering that we rank, we already have the 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: top five hundred prospects ranked, and we're only going to 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: see about one hundred and sixty actually drafted. Definitely a 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: bit disappointed. I think I'm kind of in line with 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: all the scouting departments and the scouts and that longer 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: is always better from my perspective, and particularly this year. 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: It would have been have been terrible any year, but 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: twenty twenty classes so good and so deep that it's 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: just disappointing for the players, all the guys who have 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: worked hard, obviously to get to this point. Not that 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: this year's it's only affecting baseball. There are obviously a 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: lot bigger ramifications across the country and across the world 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: with everything that's going on, but it is disappointing. I mean, 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: for people who care about baseball and care about the draft, 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: there are gonna be a lot of players who just 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: aren't able to enter pro ball because of this, and 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: that's disappointing. You definitely want to get the most talented 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: players you can every year to join your sport, and 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: limiting it to five rounds and a twenty K bonus 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: for the undrafted guys is definitely not pushing that for it. 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: So it's disappointing, but at the same time, it's kind 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: of the reality that we have to live with now, 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: so we'll try and make the best of it. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: What do you think the rationale was for the players 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: union to accept this five round draft and do you 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: think there was any pressure from the players due to 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: them having to accept the reduction of my league teams? 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was a ten round proposal that 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: was sent to the players that they rejected because of 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: a few things in the details limiting the number of 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 3: undrafted signees you could have. So there was there were 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: different discussions for different different routes we could have taken. 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think at the end 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: of the day, MLP is going to do with they 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: see his best, and I don't think anyone is surprised 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: that the owners are winning this battle. I mean, it's 62 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: a financial decision clearly, given though only one hundred K 63 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: is going to be paid for bonuses this year with 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: deferments in one and twenty twenty two. This is definitely 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: a money move. With revenues kind of disappearing at the 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: major league level, owners want to cut costs as much 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: as they can, and while the draft is still an 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: extraordinarily valuable avenue to acquire talent, I guess if you 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: look at it from their perspective, it makes sense to 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: cut money. But at the same time, there's no better 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: way to acquire talent for as valuables you can get 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: in the app So yeah, it's disappointing. I think I've 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: talked on our own podcast about how I wish to 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: the MLB Players Association would be a little bit stronger 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: in kind of representing these players who they officially don't represent. 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: Maybe that's an oxy Morton take from me, but I 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: just think with no one kind of representing these guys 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: at the table, they continuously kind of draw the short stick, 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: and we see that happen this year again. I don't 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: know what the best case scenario is. Obviously something was 81 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: going to have to happen, but it's a pretty pretty 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 3: unfortunate situation. 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: Well, speaking a little bit about this, year's challenge to 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: get on the positive side of things. Austin Basi has 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: been the name that's been most frequent on locked Draft 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: for Miami at pick number three. What are your overall 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: feelings at him at the next level? 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so see, I think I think this year is 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: a pretty good, pretty good year to pick number three. 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we've heard that the top two bats Spencer 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: torks And and Auxin Martin are the favorites to go one 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: to two and some order, and I think Asa Lace, 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: while maybe isn't quite at that tier, we have him 94 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: solidly in the top three in this year's class. I 95 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: think depending on the team you talk to, you could 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: see him at the same level. I think generally teams 97 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: just want to side with the bat if you voot 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: the talents as similar. But Ahlac is the most complete 99 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: pitcher in this draft class. He's a guy who has 100 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: plus stuff really across the board. Came out early this 101 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: spring and dominated pretty much every appearance he came out at. 102 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: He's got a fastball into the upper nineties. He's got 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: a wipe out slider that has improved. He's a guy 104 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: who there have been some questions about his overall command 105 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: but I think he's more than good enough in the 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: strike throwing department to kind of dominate hitters. And he's 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: a guy who projects as a front of the rotation arm. 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: So if I'm the Marlins and the two baths are 109 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: taking in front of me, I'd be thrilled to get Alac. 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: From a fan perspective, I just think there are really 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: no holes you can point to in his game. I 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: love the demeanor that he kind of attax hitters on 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: the mound with. He's a bulldog, he comes right after you, 114 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: and he's going to be a guy that racked up 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: a lot of strikeouts and really tough on hitters at 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: every level. 117 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you just mentioned three college players. Obviously there's 118 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: less to go off of for scouts right now. What 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: do you think they're emphasizing at the moment, especially with 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: like high school guys and obviously like some of the 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: college guys that didn't really get a chance to prove 122 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: themselves over an entire season, and like what are they 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: looking for and how has the coronavirus pandemic affected that? 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I mean this is going to be a 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: very unique draft, obviously. I think the demographic that's hit 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: the hardest is the high school players. He mentioned. Even 127 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: if some of these college guys didn't really get to 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: show a lot this spring, they do have kind of 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: a larger body of work that teams can look on 130 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: from their freshmen and sophomore seasons if we're talking about 131 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: junior eligible players. But the high school guys, think it's 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: going to be a lot more difficult because, well, for 133 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: a lot of these top guys, like these first round 134 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: picks that we have, at least the first round talents 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: you have kind of in that top thirty range, you 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: did see them over the summer a lot of high 137 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: profile showcase events, so teams feel pretty good about the 138 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: talent and kind of what they did last year. But 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: at the same time, a lot of guys in the 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: northern half of the country never got to start their 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: spring seasons at all. So this is just a much 142 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: bigger risk bar. I guess you could associate these players 143 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: with when you kind of compound that with the assignability 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: concerns you typically have with high school players, being that 145 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: they have the leverage to go to college and start 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: their college career, I think we're going to see a 147 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: lot of guys, particularly at the second and third tiers 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: of the high school demographic of this class that get 149 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: pushed out of the draft or they just fall down 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: the board enough to where they don't want to sign 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: in a five year draft with all the limits that 152 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: you're seeing on bonuses and deferments and all of that. 153 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: So I think teams are basically just having to use 154 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: the evaluations they have on all of these players, whether 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: your high school or college. I mean, it'll be tough 156 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: to wait early season performances for some of these college players, 157 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: particularly some of the the hitters and the pitchers who 158 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: maybe didn't face the greatest competition. I've been having conversations 159 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: with a lot of scouts and scouting directors lately about 160 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: how challenging is that really. So I think at the 161 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: end of the day, you kind of have to trust 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: your area scouts, the guys who really know those players, 163 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: know the background, know the history, know kind of who 164 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: they were before. And for those players who maybe made 165 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: a jump or showed a lot better this spring, is 166 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: there a piece of evidence, Is there something tangible that 167 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: they changed that you can say, hey, he did this now, 168 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: so we expect him to be better because of this 169 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: change or this area scout come away from a look 170 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: and say, you know, I think he's maybe just performing 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: against some competition. It's a short season sample, it's a 172 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: short sample size, excuse me, So kind of weighing all 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: those things, and then obviously looking into the analytics. Every 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: team obviously uses analytics in some capacity. Figuring out how 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: to kind of wait the spring results, how to wait 176 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: last summer's performance, and just figuring out how to balance 177 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: all the information that you have. Is going to determine 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: which teams are successful in which aren't. And in the 179 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: draft every year it's always tough to kind of nail 180 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: these guys no one really knows. But just kind of 181 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: trusting everyone you have, trusting your process and communicating I 182 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: think is going to be key for all these teams. 183 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: And that's probably true every year, but especially so can. 184 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: We expect the robust undrafted free agent market or are 185 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: we just going to see a really like big Juco 186 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: push or a lot of returning juniors and seniors. 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: I think are going to see all of that. I mean, 188 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: this is a number of players that you're not going 189 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: to get signed this year compared to previous years. Those 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: players have to go somewhere I do think for a 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: lot of players, the JUCO route would be a great 192 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: route to take advantage of. I mean, you have a 193 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: lot of flexibility to junior college. You might have to 194 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: deal with less roster crunch and playing time issues that 195 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: you would at some of these colleges who are going 196 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: to have a lot of returning players who they weren't 197 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: originally expecting to kind of come back to school. At 198 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: the same time, there are probably a lot of seniors 199 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: who understand that if they come back next year for 200 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: their additional year of eligibility, they're going to be very old. 201 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: For a lot of these teams who definitely value getting 202 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: players into their organization as young as possible, so for them, 203 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: if they know baseball is in their future. Typically seniors 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 3: aren't getting a lot of money in the draft anyway, 205 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: so maybe they say, hey, twenty k it's not a 206 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 3: lot of money, but at the same time, I really 207 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: want to pursue this baseball thing. Next year, I'm going 208 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: to be dealing with an even bigger senior class to 209 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: compete with, and I'll be twenty three in some cases 210 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: twenty four years old at the time, So it might 211 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: be best to go ahead and get this jump started, 212 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of fascinated to see how many players 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: teams sign after the draft is actually over, how many 214 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: of those players decide to go, and how teams kind 215 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: of negotiate to try and get some of this priority 216 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: senior signs or even those priority junior guys who maybe 217 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: would be willing to start their pro career as well. 218 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: But for the college game, it's going to be very 219 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: tough for coaches to kind of figure out this roster 220 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: crunch and for players to figure out what position, what school, 221 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: what location for them is going to be best for 222 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: their development moving forward. It's definitely tricky, and I think 223 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: it's probably one of the bigger negatives to come out 224 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: of this shortened draft scenario. It's just the challenges that 225 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: you'll see at the college game. But at the same time, 226 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: from a fan perspective, if you like the college game, 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: we're going to see more talent than maybe you ever 228 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: have at the college level, across all the various collegiate levels. 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, when I when I think of this 230 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: draft process and obviously what's going to happen afterwards, I'm 231 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: kind of expecting like an NCAA football type recruitment situation here. Uh, 232 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: what what teams are you expecting to have the advantage 233 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: in this scenario. Some of the MLB clubs, Yeah, yeah, 234 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: the MLB clubs with with the undrafted players. 235 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: I think any any of the teams that have already 236 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: kind of gone except further than everyone else in terms 237 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: of paying minor league players more, I think really helps. 238 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: The Blue Days were team that did that earlier than 239 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: everyone They increase salaries. There are a couple of other 240 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: teams that had talked about doing that before. Maybe this 241 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: was for major league teams to just do that. In general, 242 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: it's I feel like you're really opening up a lot 243 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: of dyke territory here with some things that can go 244 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: wrong in terms of underhanded dealings. Maybe. I know that 245 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: was one of the first things that scouts brought up 246 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: to me when this twenty k B on its limit 247 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: was introduced. They were worried, Hey, like, we're all working 248 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: with the same amount of money. What's to stop teams 249 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: from promising certain things under the table. Obviously MLP is 250 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: going to come down really hard if they find out 251 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: any team has done that. But I know there's been 252 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: speculation that maybe players will sign with their hometown team 253 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: their favorite team growing up. There are a lot of 254 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: different factors. I think it's going to depend on the individual. 255 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: It's going to depend on what they think of the 256 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: team's organization and player development. Do they think they can 257 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: become get the most of their potential with certain clubs. 258 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: Do they have a lot of confidence in the coaching 259 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: and the pay and just all the different things that 260 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: come with the pro game and kind of the benefits 261 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: that you can get with different teams. It's really going 262 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: to be a chance for clubs who have done a 263 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: really good job developing players. I think they're going to 264 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: have the advantage there. And now that kind of money 265 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: is is equal across all teams, those teams that really 266 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: have an established track record of getting the most other 267 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: players and treating them well, I think we'll probably have 268 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: the advantage at the end of the day. I think 269 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: we'll probably just have to wait and see. Well. 270 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Slightly weakened catching class, I would say in this twenty class, 271 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Dylan Dinglaar has pushed up boards pretty high in the 272 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: last month or so, and that in a short season. 273 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: He had been on Miami's boards for the second round 274 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: for a while, but now it looks like he's looking 275 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: to be a first round or as he became a 276 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: first round lock for you guys, I. 277 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: Don't know if he's a first round lock, but he 278 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me at all if he did go in 279 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: the back of that first round range. I think I 280 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: would also push back a little bit on the catching 281 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: crop this year. While there's no ad lete Rushman at 282 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: the top or Joey Bart kind of in the top ten, 283 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: we do think it's a pretty strong catching class. There's 284 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: really good depth at the high school level. There are 285 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: a couple two or three, depending on what you think 286 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: of the guys sticking back their long term catchers at 287 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: the collegiate level who I would be surprised in the 288 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: first round. So I think the depth at the position 289 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: is pretty good. Again, you don't have the Avid Rushman 290 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: type who's like a no doubt number one future star, 291 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think it's solid. But Dingler, 292 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean he is a guy who's kind of got 293 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: an impressive all around profile. I mean, Patrick Bailey is 294 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: the catch and throw guy. Austin Wells maybe has the 295 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: best bat of these three guys, but Dingler, he throws 296 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: behind the plate pretty well. It's a pretty good receiver, 297 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: and he's shown potential with the bat in the past 298 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: as well. So if you think he's a guy who's 299 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: going to hit with a little bit of pop and 300 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: also be an above average defensive catcher, that's an everyday 301 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: type and teams definitely value that, particularly with his college 302 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: track record. So yeah, if he went the first wouldn't 303 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: shock us at all. I don't know if I would 304 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: go ahead and say he's a lock, just because this 305 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: year it's harder than previous years to kind of figure 306 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: out that second tier and who's definitely in the first 307 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: round and definitely not. And I think we'll also have 308 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: a lot of signability things will come into play in 309 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: terms of where players will actually land. But yeah, I 310 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: think at this point I wouldn't be surprised. 311 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really what led me to saying the 312 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: catching crop would be a little bit weakened because I 313 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: see the names like Romo and Parata and Bulger that 314 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: might not sign or look even less likely to sign 315 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: nowadays with this new draft outcome. So that's mainly than 316 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: reason why I said this class was so shortened. I 317 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: see what you're meaning there. 318 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the talent's there. If the teams don't 319 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: want to pay it, that's one thing. But if they 320 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: actually want to buy into some of these players who 321 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: have a lot of really good, impressive talent, I mean 322 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: it's there for them. 323 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Well to speak about another impressive prep after talking to 324 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: prep guys, zach Veen has been known as one of 325 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: the top preps among industry boards for the last few months, 326 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: but now there's rumblings that he may be lower in 327 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: some organizations. Why do you think there's becoming such a 328 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: variance with him this late in the stage. 329 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that there's been any large shift. There 330 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: could be people that just have different rankings that have 331 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: come out publicly, But I mean, we've been pretty consistent 332 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: that most teams value him as like a top ten prospect, 333 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: and our report we talked about some scouts who are 334 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: a little more skeptical of the bat. So maybe that's 335 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: what you're talking about. But I haven't talked with anyone 336 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: who doesn't see him as a first round prospect. I 337 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: would be a little surprised if there was some split 338 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: in the industry that kind of just started in the 339 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: last few weeks. That's something that I certainly haven't heard of, 340 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: and I expect him to go very high in the draft. 341 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: I mean, his upside is just extremely significant. He's a 342 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: guy who added a ton of weight. He has one 343 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: of the better amateur swings that I've ever seen in 344 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: terms of just the mechanics and the looseness of the swing. 345 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: And he's a guy who I think has a chance 346 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: to be a plus hitter with plus or better power 347 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: in the future. And that's really a package that you 348 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: have to look at for a little bit and think 349 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: hard if you're going to pass it over. 350 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to lean to one player from the 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Marlins organization that you guys had brought up in the 352 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: past few months, and that's Peyton Burdick. You guys had 353 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: mentioned him as a breakout candidate for twenty twenty. Obviously 354 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: we might not see a minor league season in twenty twenty, 355 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: but what do you see as a type of future 356 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: for him in Miami. 357 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Verdick is a guy who had a really impressive 358 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: debut I remember correctly, I think in twenty nineteen he 359 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: hit a little bit over three hundred four hundred, and 360 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: then somewhere in the middle of the five hundreds for 361 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: his slugging. He's a guy who has an interesting power 362 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: speed combo. At right state, he had double digit home 363 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: runs and twenty plus stolen bases, So I think he's 364 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: a pretty good value there. I know Matt Eddie at 365 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: our office really likes him just from kind of a 366 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: statistical slant. He's been really impressed with what he's been 367 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: able to do. 368 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: And it brings up Peyton Burdick. With two outs the pitch, 369 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: he cranks the ball to center field. Altman goes back, 370 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: still going back on the track. It's out of here 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: to dead away center field. It's a two run blast 372 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 4: for Peyton Burdick thirteen to seven. 373 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: And we might look back in a few years and think, man, 374 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: how do the Marlins really get him where they did 375 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: in the draft? I think they took him in the 376 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: third round and is that correct? Yeah? And really, the 377 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: tools in the performance so far are really exciting. Obviously, 378 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: they've got a number of really interesting outfielders from that 379 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen class. Jjbleday. I think it's gonna be a 380 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: fantastic player as well. But just the tool set and 381 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 3: kind of the performance is really exciting for him. Obviously, 382 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: it's just one year in pro ball, so you want 383 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: to let him get a few more at pass before 384 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: you really figure out what he's going to be at 385 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: the next level. But definitely an exciting hitter with a 386 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: power speed combination that you always want to see. 387 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Uh, there's already been like a lot of uncertainty about 388 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: the actual major league season, But have there been any 389 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: rumblings on what the league might choose to do with 390 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: minor league players, whether it's a developmental league or just 391 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: like letting them sit out for the year. 392 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine they would want to do something 393 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: with them. I think JJ Cooper it would probably be 394 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: a better source for an answer to this question that 395 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: I would, just because he's done a lot of reporting 396 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: on that level and is more in tune with what 397 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: teams want to do and what they're able to do. 398 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: A lot of it's just going to depend on the 399 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: safety of everything. If you can get an environment where 400 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: you can have players playing games or doing workouts without 401 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: putting unnecessary risk on them and people around them, I 402 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: think it would be very I'd be very surprised if 403 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: teams didn't want them to kind of get some sort 404 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: of development. Going a full year without doing anything. It 405 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 3: is really going to hurt a lot of players in 406 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 3: their progress moving forward in their pro careers. I think 407 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: there are a lot of different options you might be 408 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: able to explore that are untraditional in terms of different leagues, 409 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: different levels of play in the fall. There are a 410 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: lot of different things you could do. In fact, we've 411 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: written not myself and this is kind of the minor 412 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: league team at Baseball America has written about a couple 413 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: different opportunities that teams could have in the fall by 414 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: putting some of their prospects together and just letting them 415 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: kind of play games just for the sake of development. 416 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: I think, even outside of putting on games for fans 417 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: at the minor league level, it's important for a lot 418 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: of these guys to continue getting at bats and getting 419 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: on the mound and developing as players. Because the entire 420 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: minor league's missing a year is going to have some 421 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: trickle effects at the major league level obviously, so I'd 422 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: hope that that could be avoided. But again, this is 423 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: pretty unprecedented in terms of how leagues and people are 424 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: just able to do what they normally do. 425 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: So the onto the major league part of it, there 426 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: there's been some talk of like potentially having like expanded 427 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: forty man rosters, so I guess like potentially fifty guys 428 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: and then having them play in like a September type 429 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: scenario where you can have them like all play at 430 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: some point. How do you think like teams will go 431 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: about like especially like the Marlins where they have a 432 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: lot of prospects, but maybe service time could be an issue, Like, 433 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: how do you think they'll go about that? 434 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I think that that's probably something that's a 435 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: little bit out of my league. I've been kind of 436 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: focusing on just draft stuff at this point. I haven't 437 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: put a lot of thought into that, but I think 438 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: we've seen just if you look at what teams done 439 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: in the past in terms of service time, they're going 440 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: to do whatever they can to maximize the service time. 441 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: So if there's a situation where you could play some 442 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: of these prospects like a JJ Bledet or Chisholm or 443 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: some of these other guys in the system and we 444 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: can touch on more of them, that would maybe kind 445 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: of fast track that and get their service time started. 446 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: None of these teams are going to want to do that, 447 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: so they'd probably avoid that at all costs, just from 448 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: a financial and in a player control standpoint at the 449 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: same time, it would be awesome to see some of 450 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: these prospects playing against major league competition. I think it's 451 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: something you don't see a ton with a number of 452 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: different players. You obviously have individual prospects and certain teams 453 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 3: coming up if those teams are competing, But if there 454 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: was a situation where you could have a bunch of 455 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: prospects from every team playing at major league competition or 456 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: something close to that, I think that'd just be fun 457 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: from a fans standpoint, and you could really challenge some 458 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: of these players and see how aggressively you could push them. 459 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: But I think in general, teams are inclined to keep 460 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: as much service time as they possibly can, so about 461 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: to see what happens, I guess. 462 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would really be interesting. 463 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Just one last draft question. I just want to talk 464 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: about a couple of the top guys real quick for you, 465 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: and this is something that I've been looking over the 466 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: last few weeks, And how do you think there's a 467 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: large gap between the hit tools of Austin Martin and 468 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Nick Gonzalez Because I really see not simulators in their swing, 469 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: but just stimulators and their hit tool there. 470 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think so at all. I do 471 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: think if I had to pick one, I'd say Austin 472 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: Martin probably has the most pure hit tool in this class. 473 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: What's interesting, though, in our preseason college preseason All Americans 474 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: that are voted on by scouting directors that we also have, 475 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: the scouting directors vote on best tools in the industry. 476 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: On our poll actually voted Nickenzales as the best peer 477 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: hitter in the class. So I think if you talk 478 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: to some people, they might say Gonzales has a superior 479 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: hit tool. I would be willing to bet at this 480 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: point that most in the industry probably prefer Martin, and 481 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: I think that's probably just due to the the sec 482 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: track record that he has. I mean, he's done it 483 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: against better competition. Gonzalez obviously has the very favor favorable 484 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: home park conditions. Not sknock him too much because he 485 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: did hit at a tremendously high level in the Cape 486 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: Cod League last summer. But I love Martin's plate discipline. 487 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: His strikeout to walk right is fantastic. I love his 488 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: bat speed, I love his eye and Gonzalez Doyes a 489 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: lot of these same things as well. But I think 490 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: I personally would give a slight edge to Martin here, 491 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 3: but we're talking about the best hit tools in the class. 492 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 3: I think you do have to start with Martin and 493 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: Gonzales with turtles, and maybe right behind them with obviously 494 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: a little bit more impact. 495 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is probably one of my last things, 496 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: and it's probably a little like far fetched because it's 497 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: so far into the future. But I mean, we're already 498 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: seeing like big summer leagues like the Cape Cod League 499 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: being cut out like this summer, and there's obviously the 500 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: potential that there will be a prolonged apps of amateur 501 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: sports due to colleges closing down long term and going online, 502 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: or maybe high schools doing the same. How do you 503 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: think teams will maneuver the twenty twenty one draft should 504 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: that happen. 505 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've started having some more conversations about this as 506 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: those leagues have kind of continued getting shut down, and 507 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: we kind of see the timeline isn't it's not opening 508 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: up as early as maybe the most optimistic outlooks early 509 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: on we're expecting. I do think that the twenty twenty 510 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: one class has a chance to be even more impacted 511 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: than the twenty twenty class, just because with these twenty 512 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: twenty high schoolers, like I said earlier, a lot of 513 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: these a lot of these guys were seen at pretty 514 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: significant events for a pretty decent amount of time over 515 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: the summer, And if you don't have a summer showcase season, 516 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: these twenty twenty one high school prospects are going to 517 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: be almost impossible to evaluate, especially if that then goes 518 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: into the next spring, So basically the entire year where 519 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: you're really spending bearing down on these guys from a 520 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: scouting standpoint, you're not going to have that. I don't 521 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: know what leagues or teams and different kind of event 522 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: runners will do in that situation. Maybe there's a chance 523 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: that we could have more fall events than we previously do, 524 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: but if it continues to be tough to have those 525 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: events period, these twenty twenty one guys are going to 526 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: be even more affected than the twenty twenty class. I 527 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: do think for a majority of the players in the 528 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: twenty twenty class, especially at the top, teams have a 529 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 3: pretty good read on them. They have a pretty good 530 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: feel for all these players, and they feel good about 531 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: the information. But if this continues on throughout the summer, 532 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: I mean this is where kind of the bulk of 533 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: the information gathering begins for the high school players. There 534 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: are some teams that do a pretty good job scouting underclassmen, 535 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: but at the same time, just the quantity of looks 536 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: and the number of cross checking looks and national evaluators 537 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: you get on the underclassmen does not really start happening 538 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 3: that early in the process. So it has a chance 539 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: to really affect that twenty twenty one class, and hopefully 540 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: that doesn't happen, but it's definitely something that the teams 541 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: are thinking about right now. 542 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: The impact of this is just becoming more and more 543 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: insane every day if we talk about it. But to 544 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: talk about the twenty twenty class one last time here 545 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: in Miami's pick at number three. Bock Draft came out 546 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: today and it alluded to a rumor that I've heard 547 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: over the past two weeks that if foss Lacy is 548 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: not there at three, Miami could go underslot at a 549 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: different college pitcher. Is that something that you've heard, or 550 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: is that's out there that we should be possibly looking for. 551 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: I haven't heard that rumor specifically, but I think in 552 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: general that's something that every team is kind of looking for. 553 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: We saw it last year's class. I think there are 554 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: just two players. I don't have to check this out, 555 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: but there are only a couple of players that got 556 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: overslought money deep into the first round. Teams are constantly 557 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: hunting for those underslot deals in the top ten. If 558 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: you can save a million dollars on a player while 559 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: getting a talent that you see is roughly equivalent to 560 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: the other names that are left on the board, teams 561 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: see a lot of value in that. I can see 562 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: teams going either way. This year. There's only five rounds, 563 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: so maybe that extra million is even even more valuable 564 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: this year, while at the same time you only have 565 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: five rounds to get the players you want, so maybe 566 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: you just take the top guy on your board and 567 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: be done with it. It has been a lot more difficult 568 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: to get any hard information this year, just because you 569 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: can't really scout the scouts at games, and teams are 570 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 3: a little bit more kind of in the dark with 571 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: what other teams are doing around them. So in terms 572 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: of hard information on mock drafts, I think it's going 573 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: to be more challenging this year. There are always rumors 574 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: at this point in the year, but kind of figuring 575 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: out which ones are legit is the is the tough part, 576 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll get a little bit more clarity of 577 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 3: what teams are thinking as we get closer. But to 578 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: this point, I would say it's the It's the most 579 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: unknown in terms of mock draft that I've experienced while 580 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: doing this, and I anticipate it continue to be a challenge. 581 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: So hopefully I'll have a better answer for you as 582 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: a week closer. But it's it's gonna be a tough one. 583 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. The smoke seems thicker than it's ever been right now, 584 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: No doubt we'll Carlos. I think that's not all we 585 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: have for you today, man. I really appreciate you coming 586 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: on with us. 587 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, thanks for having me guys. Sorry I didn't 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: have some better answers for some of the other questions. Yeah, 589 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: appreciate you. 590 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Coming on and taking the time time with us today. 591 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, thanks for having me guys. So I just wanted 592 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 3: to talk draft and again I appreciate it, all right, 593 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: m H.