Speaker 1: You were listening to Winny on reparations and production of
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Speaker 1: on reparations. Cut us our check? So what is going
Speaker 1: on with you? Didn't you just get out of a meeting?
Speaker 1: I did? I did. We talked about redistricting. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's less interesting at the local level
Speaker 1: than it is at the state and like federal but um,
Speaker 1: sort of learning the principles of you know, the Voting
Speaker 1: Rights Act and like how that must be translated into
Speaker 1: how this out of work, what different people are trying
Speaker 1: to get out of the process. It's fairly new to
Speaker 1: me because this only happens every ten years. So oh no, man,
Speaker 1: I thought it was I but yeah, just a bunch
Speaker 1: of other pretty mundane things. So that was the big one, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's just redistricting. Redistricting is about to
Speaker 1: be like a big I mean I'm not that it's
Speaker 1: not a big issue now, but it's about to show
Speaker 1: its weight coming up soon in the elections, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I for sure it will probably make a big difference
Speaker 1: in some places. Um, the Republicans will try everything possible
Speaker 1: to fuck working people and brown people and black people. Um,
Speaker 1: which is why it's it was like so interesting and
Speaker 1: yet so frustrating to discuss redistricting here because what we're
Speaker 1: discussing is the local commission maps that we wanted to
Speaker 1: send to the state legislature to ask for approval. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: we did this work to figure out how to redistrict
Speaker 1: here you go. You know, we have this intimate knowledge
Speaker 1: of our own community, and this is what we think
Speaker 1: to happen, and you know what they're gonna do, Like
Speaker 1: they're gonna just ignore the ignore, completely ignore it, and
Speaker 1: find some way to screw people over. Um. Like I've
Speaker 1: talked through a lot of the nightmare scenarios in which
Speaker 1: they could possibly just turn. They could just renumber the
Speaker 1: districts and make it so that every all the incumbents,
Speaker 1: everyone currently representing these people it's no no longer live
Speaker 1: in the district number that they are, which means that
Speaker 1: everyone who just got elected would have to fight for
Speaker 1: reelection in the spring. Like they could just do that
Speaker 1: and screw everyone if they wanted to. And so it
Speaker 1: was just like, wow, this is fascinating and also so
Speaker 1: useless because no, they're not gonna listen to us. Where
Speaker 1: the concept of redistrict can come from. So it's to
Speaker 1: get the districts back into within I think ten of
Speaker 1: each other so that everyone is representing, you know, so
Speaker 1: that let's say, um, here, I'm my district gained three
Speaker 1: thousand people and maybe another district lost three thousand people. Um,
Speaker 1: And so that means fewer people are getting represented by
Speaker 1: one person in one area where I whereas I have
Speaker 1: to represent more people in another area, which means their
Speaker 1: vote counts less technically because they're represented by the same
Speaker 1: amount the one person people. Yeah, I think I'm explaining
Speaker 1: this terribly. And so it's getting the districts back in
Speaker 1: alignment so everyone has equal representation. People in one district
Speaker 1: one representative four d fifty or fourteen thousand and fifty
Speaker 1: in another one representative. So getting the maps back into
Speaker 1: shape so that everyone has equal representation supposedly, um, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tricky ways to do that where
Speaker 1: you can break up I mean, you're technically not supposed
Speaker 1: to break up minority communities like literally the Rights Acts
Speaker 1: as you're not supposed to do. But if you can
Speaker 1: get technically not supposed across the street when the lights
Speaker 1: were at exactly exactly, yes, exactly, technically not's supposed to
Speaker 1: smoke weed. However, I don't know how we're still beholden
Speaker 1: some of these like archaic weirdo rules that were made
Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty years ago that totally don't
Speaker 1: apply to the modern world. And like that, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. You know, I'm not I'm definitely sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to suggested, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe like every like fifteen years, we should go look
Speaker 1: at all that ship and kind of reconsider what we
Speaker 1: need or what we don't need and what needs to
Speaker 1: be checked. The Senate the most democratic institution, like codified
Speaker 1: in law, like what and here we still are, Oh imagine,
Speaker 1: please don't let me die in the climate induced fire.
Speaker 1: And then you know, I don't know, on the board
Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, something out quick, because like you said,
Speaker 1: the Republicans are definitely going to use that ship to
Speaker 1: their advantage. Speaking of to NS using stuff to their advantage,
Speaker 1: It's kind of like what we're gonna be talking about today.
Speaker 1: So last week's election results seem to have like the
Speaker 1: whole Democratic Party and a little bit of disarray. Republicans
Speaker 1: claimed all statewide offices in Virginia, and they were likely Yeah,
Speaker 1: they took all of them all for election. I made yeah, sorry, sorry, okay, No,
Speaker 1: it's fine, yah. I mean because it's equally possible that
Speaker 1: the ones that were not weren't up for re election.
Speaker 1: They went and like, it's looking like they're going to
Speaker 1: take control of the state's delegates to um. Two of
Speaker 1: those races. Two of those races are pretty tighten or
Speaker 1: in recount right now, but it's looking like they're going
Speaker 1: to get that. They gave a scare to uh New
Speaker 1: Jersey Governor Phil Murphy. Um. That one didn't get called
Speaker 1: to like the next day and by much dinner margin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being a little nervous about that one, but you pulled
Speaker 1: it off. Um. So not. You know, like anyone who's
Speaker 1: been following the in particular the Virginia election, you know,
Speaker 1: at the near the tail end of that, the election
Speaker 1: kind of took a turn. I think there was like
Speaker 1: a something stupid. There was like a like twenty or
Speaker 1: thirty point swing or something like that where mcculloff was
Speaker 1: up by like ten points and then over the course
Speaker 1: of like a week and then it was down by ten,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it kind of centered
Speaker 1: around the whole concept of critical race theory, which is
Speaker 1: the academic legal concept that we'll get into later UM,
Speaker 1: but using that in kind of having a laser focus,
Speaker 1: almost droning approach to hammering that in critical race theory,
Speaker 1: critical race theory, they're gonna be teaching that in school.
Speaker 1: Critical race theory workness is bad. Critical race theory workness
Speaker 1: is bad. He managed to get you know, white people
Speaker 1: to get into a little bit of a race panic
Speaker 1: over weird black stuff being taught to their kids in
Speaker 1: the school. Suff new name of this pot Cats Actually
Speaker 1: we're branding UM now in the wake of all of this.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how like whenever these motherfucker's be
Speaker 1: losing elections, they like to do the whole campaign autopsy
Speaker 1: the same. So they've you know, like you've been having
Speaker 1: Democratic operatives and other elected officials and they've they've been
Speaker 1: looking back at what's been going on, and their conclusion
Speaker 1: is not that Terry McCullough uh fed into the fake
Speaker 1: debate about critical race theory and wokeness and didn't concentrate
Speaker 1: on a strong economic message, and they're there. Their conclusion
Speaker 1: is not that Joe Biden and the Senate and the
Speaker 1: House didn't give politicians like Democrats like Terry McCullough anything
Speaker 1: to really run on other than Trump is bad. Trump
Speaker 1: is bad. So they're they're can inclusion is that it
Speaker 1: is critical race theory. And you know, even more broader
Speaker 1: than that and more vague wokeness, the concept of wokeness there.
Speaker 1: That is what there wanting to attribute blame for their
Speaker 1: losses last week too, is the concept of wokeness, that
Speaker 1: Democrats are being too woke, that the left has a
Speaker 1: wokeness issue. So that's what we're gonna be talking about today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about critical race theory, wokeness, what it is,
Speaker 1: what it isn't, and how the right wing is using
Speaker 1: both to essentially radicalize half the country and a lot
Speaker 1: of smart people to a lot of people that you
Speaker 1: think are smart that you might hear them talk about
Speaker 1: wokeness like it's an actual, like like a thing like
Speaker 1: at the issue. You know, that's that's something that's got
Speaker 1: me shocked. But we're gonna we're gonna get into that
Speaker 1: and more after the joke, all right, we're back, and
Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about First of all,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's set the record straight about what critical
Speaker 1: race theory is UM and a little of where it's
Speaker 1: where it's resurgence and repackaging as this boogeyman um has
Speaker 1: come from. So critical race theory I've started a little
Speaker 1: bit in graduate school. It's like a framework of analysis
Speaker 1: and an academic movement of civil rights scholars activists who
Speaker 1: seek to examine the intersection of race and law in
Speaker 1: the United States and challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to
Speaker 1: racial justice UM that examine social, cultural, and legal issues.
Speaker 1: Keeywere legal issues primarily as they relate to race and
Speaker 1: racism United States. And the maintenance of CRT is that
Speaker 1: racism and disparate racial outcomes are the results of complex,
Speaker 1: changing and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than
Speaker 1: explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals per Wikiediam. But so
Speaker 1: it's like it's about the law. It's about upholding of
Speaker 1: these systems of its institutions that give rise to disparate
Speaker 1: racial outcomes rather than like Kyle in fifth grade called
Speaker 1: me an African beast when I held the door open forehand,
Speaker 1: which is a growth thing that happened, but like critical
Speaker 1: race theory actually looks at more of the institutional systemic
Speaker 1: causes and effects. So it's very important that we started
Speaker 1: it off with that, because what Mariah just read is
Speaker 1: the very first paragraph on the Wikipedia page for critical
Speaker 1: race theory. Pay attention to like that last bit when
Speaker 1: it says that UM racism and disparate racial outcomes are
Speaker 1: the result of complex, changing and often subtle social and
Speaker 1: institutional dynamics rather than explicit, intentional prejudices of individuals. Now,
Speaker 1: if you ask any right winger in the country right now,
Speaker 1: like what is critical race theory, why is it bad?
Speaker 1: And what is your problem with it? They literally would
Speaker 1: tell you the opposite of what it says. What the Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: they're trying to paint it as this, as this thing
Speaker 1: is like a critical race theory is about UM saying
Speaker 1: pretty much critical they're a little bit like to paint
Speaker 1: a caricature that critical race theory is about UM streaming
Speaker 1: about racism all the time and saying that people are
Speaker 1: racist and know this person is racist and that's racist,
Speaker 1: and that's racism. You should feel bad as a personal
Speaker 1: individual for racism when like literally little people. Really I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that's that is a separate issue, that's like
Speaker 1: a separate discussion, but like the actual thing that critical
Speaker 1: race theory is like literally like it says a tenant
Speaker 1: is that it's not about like putting like the onus
Speaker 1: of racism on the personal actions of people, and it's
Speaker 1: more about the systems and stuff like that. So the
Speaker 1: way it's codified into law, on the way the law
Speaker 1: is enacted, um, and there's like this, yeah, this institute
Speaker 1: I used this term too much, this institutional inertia of
Speaker 1: like the way things were is the way things people
Speaker 1: always do things and the way things will always be.
Speaker 1: So if it was like constructed by racist people hundreds
Speaker 1: of years ago, the systems they set up, or that
Speaker 1: you know what we were talking about the Senate earlier.
Speaker 1: We're talking about all of these arcane legal institutions that
Speaker 1: we still live by. And it's like, though that, let's
Speaker 1: look at that. Let's look at that instead of like
Speaker 1: a little timmy, hate yourself. Why don't you You're five
Speaker 1: years old. You should have learned to hate yourself by
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, So okay, So I wanted to to
Speaker 1: put a little like historical context on not only like
Speaker 1: how CRT is being used right now, but also how
Speaker 1: this pertains to the results of the election in Virginia,
Speaker 1: and just historical trends with regards to the swing from
Speaker 1: the left to the right that I have noticed. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've only lived there tears in this world, but for
Speaker 1: my entire life, every time there's a been a Democratic elected,
Speaker 1: the NXT person is a Republican, and then they get reelected,
Speaker 1: and then it is a Democrat again, it gets relaxed
Speaker 1: and then's Republican and so um, like I think maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean, and maybe people who have not touched upon
Speaker 1: this have more historical context than I and that's why
Speaker 1: the time can come up. But I haven't seen enough
Speaker 1: people saying that this is just how the swing goes.
Speaker 1: Democrats take power, Republicans freak the funk out, and anger
Speaker 1: is such a motivating emotion, Like anger is such a
Speaker 1: motivating emotion to go out and vote. And so the
Speaker 1: Republicans are angry at the Democrats right now because they
Speaker 1: don't hold power. So they come out and drove and
Speaker 1: they elect someone like Glenn Yonkan or whatever the fund is.
Speaker 1: It's glenniuncan right, Youngcan sounds like I don't know, he
Speaker 1: belongs to the Lollipop Guild or some ship. But so
Speaker 1: it's just like, of course this would happen, like this
Speaker 1: always happens. I don't know what you're trying to. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're in CRT. Oh it's wokeness. Oh we went too
Speaker 1: far left. Oh there wasn't economic message, Like, no, you
Speaker 1: just can't beat people who are angry. And we're not
Speaker 1: angry right now because we're in power. We are the
Speaker 1: Democrats are in power, so no one's angry, so they
Speaker 1: don't come out and vote. That's one historical trend that
Speaker 1: I think applies to the situation, and I think it's correct.
Speaker 1: I just I think that I think if we were
Speaker 1: just talking about CRT, like if CRT was the only thing,
Speaker 1: then I would agree with that. But I think that
Speaker 1: the broader concept of wokeness is what makes the whole
Speaker 1: situation a lot more insidious and potentially like dangerous and vibly.
Speaker 1: But well, we'll get into that later on. What was
Speaker 1: the next thing you're gonna say? So the next thing
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is that this is not the
Speaker 1: first time that dog whistles haven't used to reclaim the
Speaker 1: moral high ground. Um, you know, for reactionaries to reclaim
Speaker 1: the moral high ground and repackage white supremacy and racism
Speaker 1: in a way that's latable to the people in suburbs,
Speaker 1: so they can keep doing the same project that they've
Speaker 1: been doing since Jim Crow. CRT is now being used
Speaker 1: as a dog, which was all much like law and
Speaker 1: order was being used by Reagan in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: It was a response to white fears about losing their
Speaker 1: status in the racial order and to ensure continued subjugation
Speaker 1: of people of color. They couldn't come out and say
Speaker 1: we hate the niggers anymore. And even there's there's the
Speaker 1: documentation of like politicians at the time saying that like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't call go around and call people the in word,
Speaker 1: so what are we gonna do? So what they did
Speaker 1: was start focusing on cracking down on crime and reinstating
Speaker 1: law and order as a coded way to talk about
Speaker 1: people of color. And so at the time the civil
Speaker 1: rights movement had gained the moral of her hand on conservatives.
Speaker 1: They had marched the streets there, you know, we're on
Speaker 1: the news stations getting beaten in fire host and attacked
Speaker 1: by dogs, and sudden people were like, maybe racism is bad.
Speaker 1: So conservatives had to make up a way to reframe
Speaker 1: things in order to make white superman see attractive. So
Speaker 1: they started talking about locking up criminals. What do they
Speaker 1: made by criminals black people? Um talking about cleaning up
Speaker 1: our streets? What's the trash on the streets black people?
Speaker 1: And and you know what ultimately came out of that
Speaker 1: is it was so effective the Democrats then took on
Speaker 1: the same framing of you know what, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: tougher than the Republicans on crime if that's why you
Speaker 1: had the crime bill in next any four passed under
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's administration to be like, oh, we can play
Speaker 1: that game too. Which is the part of the story
Speaker 1: that I'm not sure how this is going to turn out,
Speaker 1: because Okay, the same thing happened George Floyd uprising last summer,
Speaker 1: Republicans and Conservatives concreasingly losing their footing and arguments for
Speaker 1: upholding racism in the face of video footage of black
Speaker 1: people getting murdered, and so conservatives had to find a
Speaker 1: new fight teaching about racism in schools. So here we are, um,
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. How I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: think we could speak somewhat to the way that the
Speaker 1: left has responded to the UM. I yeah, polling for
Speaker 1: the Virginia election has definitely I mean, you know, take polls,
Speaker 1: take poles as you want them, but I mean, from
Speaker 1: a polling perspective, the ship is working. And and like
Speaker 1: if like, if you have a concern about democratic electoral politics,
Speaker 1: then yeah, you should be scared because it's looking like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blood bath that probably gonna gonna
Speaker 1: take over everything. And it does seem like these you know,
Speaker 1: two people like us what seemed like ridiculous you know,
Speaker 1: ridiculously argued cultural issues. It's working on people, on a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Here's what I have to say about
Speaker 1: the polling is that up in the two that's since
Speaker 1: seen election, everyone thought Hilly Clinton was gonna win because
Speaker 1: the polling showed that she had the most support. And
Speaker 1: it has been surmised that that was the case because
Speaker 1: conservatives were because of their distry, institutions, and perhaps even
Speaker 1: embarrassment about supporting Donald Trump. We're not responsive to polls now.
Speaker 1: We are in an era I might guess where Republicans
Speaker 1: feel like they have been validated because everyone's feel like
Speaker 1: in my premast and Baptists feel like they have been
Speaker 1: validated by the Trump administration, like, oh, we're the silom majority,
Speaker 1: and so perhaps now in the polls they are more
Speaker 1: comfortable with speaking their opinion. They think it's more important
Speaker 1: to speak out about how they really feel. But well, um,
Speaker 1: because they think that they are the majority, perhaps they
Speaker 1: trust the institutions more in that they had institutional power
Speaker 1: for four years, and so maybe that's what we're seeing
Speaker 1: and like, oh, it's working. Like well, maybe people are
Speaker 1: saying they're scared of CRT, but they weren't saying that
Speaker 1: they're going to vote for Donald Trump at that's sixteen
Speaker 1: and something has changed with regards to how they are
Speaker 1: responding to inquiries into their political beliefs. Possibly, I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: I think the CRT is just like the CRT is
Speaker 1: just like a specific aspect of it. Though, like, for example,
Speaker 1: all right, so um, along with the rush for them
Speaker 1: to change all these voting laws and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: the Republicans have been doing the same feverish work on
Speaker 1: local and federal level for the last year. Getting this
Speaker 1: brought this vague concept of what they interpret critical race
Speaker 1: theory to be. They've been working feverishly to get books banned,
Speaker 1: to get curriculums changed, to get fanatics in in Q
Speaker 1: and on weirdos elected to school boards and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They've been working hard to do all of this ship
Speaker 1: and I just think that there's like a more insidious
Speaker 1: reason why than the the usual same old like dynamics
Speaker 1: that that that have been playing out for the hundred
Speaker 1: years some so Republican rep. Steve toth Um is an
Speaker 1: example of like where Republicans are going with this. So
Speaker 1: he was I wanted to respond to something you do said,
Speaker 1: because I think the CRT panic has an interesting parallel
Speaker 1: with the abolitionist movement that you know really took off,
Speaker 1: had been seated for decades, but like really took off
Speaker 1: last summer, and that abolitionists consider how we plant seeds
Speaker 1: that grow into a society where we don't depend on
Speaker 1: police in prisons. We know that world is not going
Speaker 1: to happen overnight. Another election result that came out last
Speaker 1: week was you know, Minneapolis voting down a measure to
Speaker 1: um abolish and created abolished a police department and create
Speaker 1: a new agency. Like you know, it's we we're not
Speaker 1: gonna win tomorrow, but like, if we start seeding these ideas,
Speaker 1: one day, we can create that world. Why I think
Speaker 1: this is a parallel to CRT is that perhaps they
Speaker 1: are seeing that we can reclaim the social order if
Speaker 1: we make sure kids don't learn about racism. And if
Speaker 1: those kids don't learn about racism, they will grow up
Speaker 1: to not to stop fighting. They can't fight racism. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it has been enacted historically, and so
Speaker 1: the same idea of seating, the seating, the planning the
Speaker 1: necessary seeds for a world that continues to be racist,
Speaker 1: And you're one that's exactly what I'm getting at. And
Speaker 1: I think that you know, I think unfortunately, because they're
Speaker 1: they're able to link the stuff in with this other
Speaker 1: vague term of wokeness and what that means, I think
Speaker 1: that they're being more successful in these ideas than in
Speaker 1: the past. So so yeah, I mean, like like you mentioned, um,
Speaker 1: like corporatist Democrats are already seizing onto oh we were
Speaker 1: too woke, taking on their framing and the same way
Speaker 1: the Democrats previously were like, oh no, we can be
Speaker 1: tougher on crime but let's all the people. Even that
Speaker 1: is just like a cultural I mean, even that's like
Speaker 1: a political thing. Like if you just look at from
Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, how many how many uh like athletes
Speaker 1: or celebrities or rappers and musicians or comedians especially do
Speaker 1: we hear now talking about woke? Oh I hate woke,
Speaker 1: woke woke? This this thing is woke. The fucking quarterback
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in football got caught lying about his vaccination status.
Speaker 1: He told everybody that he was vaccinated when he wasn't
Speaker 1: really vaccinated. When they found out that he wasn't vaccinated,
Speaker 1: do you know what he said? I see that I'm
Speaker 1: getting canceled by the woke mob. You see what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like this is like there, this is their opportunity
Speaker 1: to have something that they can sweep everything that they
Speaker 1: don't like into that shuts down the conversation and that
Speaker 1: can trick otherwise I guess I don't say, well attention,
Speaker 1: but otherwise gullible people into their ship. So like you know,
Speaker 1: they're they all of these Republicans are bringing up Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King now when they're talking about it, so about
Speaker 1: pursuit of banning books in Texas. Um, you got this
Speaker 1: Republican rep. Steve Toth And he said, Um, this book
Speaker 1: band is what he's saying. It echoes Dr King's wish
Speaker 1: that we should judge people on the content of their character,
Speaker 1: not the color of their skin. Critical race. I hear
Speaker 1: a single other Conservatives this line. Okay, go on, He said,
Speaker 1: critical race theory is a Marxist doctrine that rejects the
Speaker 1: vision of Martin that they're King. Now, what did there
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King back in the communist and of Marxist
Speaker 1: because he was critical of capitalism. This is about this
Speaker 1: is about changing the direction of ship. This is like
Speaker 1: a long term game. And I mean it, it's just
Speaker 1: like I just I just think that because I know
Speaker 1: how many people who I think are cool or who
Speaker 1: I think are smart, who have like a good head
Speaker 1: on their shoulders, that I find myself talking to them
Speaker 1: about political things, and these motherfuckers bring up wokeness like
Speaker 1: a if wokeness was an issue, that it even cracks
Speaker 1: like the top hundred of stuff that motherfucker's need to
Speaker 1: be worried about is it's just simply not a thing.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they're successfully like roping in a
Speaker 1: lot of people to think of. I mean, like, look,
Speaker 1: if you want to be like, which Democratic politician was
Speaker 1: running about critical race theory? Any well, they can sweep
Speaker 1: it into the same category as anyone talking about race.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but so all of them, all of them theoretically.
Speaker 1: But I mean the same way with that, the same
Speaker 1: way that no elected democratic politicians that I could think of,
Speaker 1: besides for like three is out here, like running on
Speaker 1: the platform of defund the police. That's something the activists
Speaker 1: are doing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like
Speaker 1: that's what I mean is like Democrats are framing they're
Speaker 1: framing themselves into a box. Republicans are hammering it in
Speaker 1: and and people are eating it up. But what Democrat,
Speaker 1: even Terry McCullough who lost the election, which Democrats platform
Speaker 1: is we need critical race theory in every school. But
Speaker 1: that's what will be interesting moving forward is how people explain.
Speaker 1: And this is something that think is interesting about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what debate this force is It may force a debate,
Speaker 1: like it may force Democrats to articulate what they think
Speaker 1: should be taught in schools because those question is getting
Speaker 1: brought up. I've what's already seen, friends, of mine have
Speaker 1: been running for elect at office at the local level,
Speaker 1: who are getting asked who you know, are known to
Speaker 1: be progressives, who are getting asked about people race theory,
Speaker 1: and rather than duct the question, which I honestly think
Speaker 1: it's the better thing to do, um, they're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is what I think should be taught in schools,
Speaker 1: and I think this is going to become increasingly common unfortunately.
Speaker 1: But it's like, what like Rhodes Bridges, like the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: Can we fucking like the medicare for all? Like can
Speaker 1: we talk about something like let's leave us to the
Speaker 1: Department of Education, let's leave this local school district. But
Speaker 1: no congress people and say House representatives and all are
Speaker 1: gonna get roped into this because you've already seen you
Speaker 1: can't knock results though, because again you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: like priorities. I guess this is what Republicans care about,
Speaker 1: So it really doesn't matter, like, you know, the same
Speaker 1: way that us on the left half stuff that we
Speaker 1: care about. So it doesn't matter whether or not Republicans
Speaker 1: care that we care about those things, because we do.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this situation is. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that we want to talk about roads and bridges, because
Speaker 1: Republicans want to talk about this. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that means that we need to like concentrate our
Speaker 1: ship to them talk about this, but we need to
Speaker 1: know what motivates them and what what is their motivating
Speaker 1: factors because it'll let us be prepared for the different
Speaker 1: things that they're gonna try, you know, in the future
Speaker 1: coming up. But I'm telling you, they have successfully wrapped
Speaker 1: up this critical race theory wokeness thing, and now everything
Speaker 1: is woke. Everything is critical race theory. So it's like
Speaker 1: the next time you watch watch, the next time that
Speaker 1: there's a video of a cop stepping on somebody's fucking
Speaker 1: neck for eight minutes, when you say, oh, that's bad,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be someone who's gonna say, why are you
Speaker 1: being woke? Yeah, that's critical race theory. Yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: that's the that's the project that's at play here, That's
Speaker 1: what they're trying to create, because it's all about projection.
Speaker 1: You know how Republicans always say, oh, you guys always
Speaker 1: say that everything is racist because it shuts down conversation
Speaker 1: it's because they want to have something they can say
Speaker 1: to shut down conversations about race. Ye know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So if they can sweep everything up into wokeness in
Speaker 1: critical race theory, you know, and and and because we've
Speaker 1: got so many fucking stupid people around, I just fear
Speaker 1: that it's going to work. How many people have you
Speaker 1: heard use the term woke and cancel culture in relation
Speaker 1: to the Dave Chappelle conversations. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle himself, I'm constructating against wokeness w wloa blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. This is the path that like people are following,
Speaker 1: like like check check this out right, Um, these are
Speaker 1: just like a runoff some of the headlines. Okay, wait
Speaker 1: before we get to that, I would like to so
Speaker 1: I want to go back to my point about Democrats
Speaker 1: having to defend their position on what they think kids
Speaker 1: should be caught in school. I want to read you
Speaker 1: this quote, and I want you to tell me if
Speaker 1: this was said by a Democrat or Republican. We will
Speaker 1: teach all history, the good and the bad. America is
Speaker 1: the greatest country on the planet. We know it. We
Speaker 1: have an amazing history, but we also have some dark
Speaker 1: and imporn chapters. We must teach them all. We can't
Speaker 1: know where we're going unless we know where we come from.
Speaker 1: Who said that? I mean it sounded super American, exceptionally
Speaker 1: so I'm good at guess a Republican. But it could
Speaker 1: have been this was. This was a quote from Glenn
Speaker 1: yon Kin's final campaign rally in Loudon County in Virginia.
Speaker 1: The next part of it, but like it does, Okay,
Speaker 1: it does have to American sexual sexualism? Is it in it?
Speaker 1: Because he says America's the greatest country on earth? But
Speaker 1: we will teach all history, the good and the bad.
Speaker 1: His next like part, Let me be clear. What we
Speaker 1: want do. What we won't do is teach our children
Speaker 1: to viewer everything through a lens embrace, where we divide
Speaker 1: them into buckets. One groups an oppressor and another groups
Speaker 1: of victims, and we put them against each other and
Speaker 1: we steal their dreams. We will not be a commonwealth
Speaker 1: of dream stealers, will be a commonwealth of dream enablers
Speaker 1: and builders. We know it's not right. We're all created equal,
Speaker 1: and we're trying so hard to live up to those
Speaker 1: immortal words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Who implored
Speaker 1: us to be better than we are, to judge one
Speaker 1: another on what the content of our character, not the
Speaker 1: color of our skin. So let me be clear, on
Speaker 1: day one, we will not have political agenda's in the classroom,
Speaker 1: and I will ban critical race theory. I mean, there
Speaker 1: you go. So I'm just saying that it becomes like
Speaker 1: the once you once you seed seed ground to like
Speaker 1: their framing that critical race theory is bad, the vocus
Speaker 1: is bad. This is this is the word salad that
Speaker 1: we get from both sides of the aisle. Probably, I
Speaker 1: just don't think that it's limited to being in the
Speaker 1: realm of politics. And I think culturally, I think that
Speaker 1: the way that this is playing out culturally is affecting
Speaker 1: how it's playing out politically, because I just I just
Speaker 1: think that there's there's more people than we're willing to
Speaker 1: admit whose brains are temporarily turned into mashed potatoes and
Speaker 1: they're like waking up in a cold sweat at night, like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, woken us. And I think I think
Speaker 1: your example about Dave Chappelle's perfect for this because ostensibly
Speaker 1: left leaning people um did wait didn't hear what that's
Speaker 1: saying that Anald Trump. It was it was a joke.
Speaker 1: It was a joke. Okay, he said that we should
Speaker 1: give Donald Trump a chance. But so maybe I'm giving
Speaker 1: him too much credit. Ostensibly five years have you heard
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle say anything bad about Donald Trump. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take you back. But I started to say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it back. Cut this from the episode. Just kidding,
Speaker 1: don't really, but like I'm taking it back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm honestly asking because like, the
Speaker 1: only conservative figure that I know, specifically Dave Chappelle has
Speaker 1: gone after has been Candice Owens. Now, I wonder what
Speaker 1: it is about Candice Owens takes her different from other
Speaker 1: conservative popular conservative figures that Dave Chappelle felt comfortable going
Speaker 1: after her and not the other one. Could it be
Speaker 1: that she's black and a woman. That's how it feels
Speaker 1: to me. Because Stephen Crowder has chilling Dave probably say
Speaker 1: ship down in a certain way, yeah, Ben Chapelle's chilling
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle and said ship Yeah. Nick Quentez is chilling
Speaker 1: with Schlastika is behind him talk about pably. They probably
Speaker 1: say ship, so you know, just just just generally and
Speaker 1: then and then who is the Chappelle on tour with
Speaker 1: or who is he on tour with last week with
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan? Who is the king of wokeness? Is the
Speaker 1: worst issue in America right now? If we let cancel
Speaker 1: culture go on, then the lock white men in their houses?
Speaker 1: How's this? So people that are either coated as ostensibly
Speaker 1: left wing because they are black, like Dame Chappelle, or
Speaker 1: people that you know in their media um purport like
Speaker 1: an open mindedness like Joe roganhead Bernie Sanderson's podcast, as
Speaker 1: well as sucking Elon Musk. You know, he's not he's
Speaker 1: not like explicitly partisan. So these people seating the ground. Two,
Speaker 1: the framing that wokeness is bad is a part of
Speaker 1: like that same historical trajectory that we've been on with,
Speaker 1: you know, with like quote unquote like left at least
Speaker 1: nonpartisan figures like going along with the far right framing
Speaker 1: of something to seem like, oh, I'm not one of
Speaker 1: those ridiculous you know, pronouns and bio like bitches like well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool because like instead of giving a substantive
Speaker 1: argument from why you stand for what you stand for
Speaker 1: if you stand for it, which they don't really check
Speaker 1: out these headlines. But let's get into from the aftermath, right, So, okay,
Speaker 1: New York Post James Carville blames stupid wokeness for DEM's week,
Speaker 1: showing h is a problem and we all know it.
Speaker 1: That's from box Um. Democrats go to war over wokeness.
Speaker 1: That's the hill. And then here's the interesting one. New
Speaker 1: York Times columnists Mareen Dowd warrens wokeness could derail the Democrats.
Speaker 1: That's from Fox News. Now, why is Fox News favorably
Speaker 1: covering Maureen Dowd of the New York Times over the
Speaker 1: top of like why are they why are they joining
Speaker 1: for the topic of wokeness is bad? I'm it indicates yeah,
Speaker 1: they're giving their like we're giving them fodder for further
Speaker 1: accelerating their campaign a white supremacy. Great job, New York Times.
Speaker 1: Where Republicans going with all this right that that's I
Speaker 1: guess that's at the end of the day, that's what
Speaker 1: you when we're talking about all this uh critical race
Speaker 1: theory and wilkness, like what is the reason? You know?
Speaker 1: And then what was it before this? They were talking
Speaker 1: about how, oh, we want to cancel Dr SEUs. You'll
Speaker 1: remember that that was like five or six months ago.
Speaker 1: You're the canceling Dr SEUs and Dr Seuss books, and
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the end of Western civilization because
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't want to have that black face
Speaker 1: picture of the Dr SEUs drew that one time. And anyway,
Speaker 1: I think that the the overall conservative project can be
Speaker 1: summed up in uh somewhere within the essay essay Who's
Speaker 1: Afraid of Critical Race Theory? By Derek A. Bell. Right, So,
Speaker 1: and this is an essay that Derek came about. Who
Speaker 1: do you do you? Uh yeah, Derek School, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So he wrote this. He wrote this essay ninety four
Speaker 1: called Who's Afraid of Critical Race Theory? And the whole
Speaker 1: thing is a response to a book by a guy
Speaker 1: named Charles Murray, a book that he wrote in ninety
Speaker 1: four called The Bell Curve. So the Bell Curve essentially
Speaker 1: he Charles Murray, who's genesis is racist. He the point
Speaker 1: that he was trying to make in the Bell Curve.
Speaker 1: I have mentioned it a little bit last week, but
Speaker 1: he's trying to make the point that i Q and
Speaker 1: intelligence is something that is based in race, and the
Speaker 1: pigmentation in your skin affects the size of your brain
Speaker 1: and your brain's ability to retain knowledge in YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: And it came out ninety four, and it had a
Speaker 1: bunch of people who were praising it, and you had
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who were condemning it, and anyone
Speaker 1: wonder why. In response to just the Hooplah, Derek Bell
Speaker 1: wrote this article, I'm just gonna read you this past.
Speaker 1: You read them this past. Yeah for it, Okay, sorry
Speaker 1: for the past. Through four months, a great deal of
Speaker 1: attention and energy has been devoted to commending or condemning,
Speaker 1: condemning way SI. For the past three or four months,
Speaker 1: a great deal of attention and energy has been devoted
Speaker 1: due commending and condemning Mr Charles Murray and the late
Speaker 1: doctor Richard Hernstein, authors of the best selling book on
Speaker 1: racial intelligence, The Bell Care. This book suggests great social
Speaker 1: policy significance in the fact that black people score on
Speaker 1: average fifteen points below whites on i Q tests. This
Speaker 1: thesis has been criticized as the rehashing of views long
Speaker 1: ago are rejected by virtually all virtually all experts in
Speaker 1: the field there is critics maintain no basis for a
Speaker 1: finding that intelligence is inherited, and indeed no accepted definition
Speaker 1: of the term intelligence. There is, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: of depressingly strong and invariant correlation between resources and race
Speaker 1: in this country and resources and success, including success on
Speaker 1: taking i Q tests. These are settled facts. Even so,
Speaker 1: the book has enjoyed an enormous success that its critics
Speaker 1: find difficult to explain. Stephen J. Gould, for example, rights
Speaker 1: the Bell Curve, with its claims and supposed documentation that
Speaker 1: race and class differences are largely caused by genetic factors
Speaker 1: and are therefore essentially immutable, contains no new arguments and
Speaker 1: presents no compelling data to support its anachronistic social Darwinism.
Speaker 1: So I can only conclude a success and winning attention.
Speaker 1: It must reflect the depressing temper of our time, a
Speaker 1: historic moment of impressed, unprecedented, ungenerous, unprecedented un generosity. When
Speaker 1: a mood for slash and social program can be powerfully
Speaker 1: embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped owing
Speaker 1: two inboard cognitive limots expressed as low i Q scores,
Speaker 1: and I feel that in that you have the whole
Speaker 1: game right there? Who who? Okay? So you know, and
Speaker 1: again I just got to bring it back to the
Speaker 1: cultural aspect of it. We all know how I mentally
Speaker 1: I don't think any of this ship is a coincidence.
Speaker 1: We know how mentally popular figures like Joe Rogan are right, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is something Joe Rogan spent two or three years
Speaker 1: in the last five years with like the main theme
Speaker 1: of his show, the main topic, the main the main
Speaker 1: like subject of intellectual curiosity that Joe Rogan wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about between the years sen and on his show
Speaker 1: is Charles Murray's Bell curve theory. Real talk, Real talk, Dad,
Speaker 1: I know all that them dead asked. That is like,
Speaker 1: like Joe Rogan, in the past like five years, Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan has had like seventeen guests to talk specifically about this,
Speaker 1: framing it all in the manner of the only reason
Speaker 1: that people don't want us to talk about this, or
Speaker 1: the only reason that people are saying that this is
Speaker 1: racist is because they're woke. Because it's cancel culture. It's
Speaker 1: woke cancel culture. If it wasn't for woke PC politically
Speaker 1: correct cancel culture, then you guys wouldn't be afraid to
Speaker 1: talk about how the negro skull is, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like like this this, this is like
Speaker 1: they're his main thing, right. It's like I think that
Speaker 1: the reason that they're going off about this wokenus and
Speaker 1: this critical race theory ship the reason why I'm watching
Speaker 1: a fucking Marvel movie. And there's a scene in the
Speaker 1: Marvel movie where a black character gets stopped by a cop,
Speaker 1: and then the internet blows up with these talking trolls
Speaker 1: and goblins talking about why is it so woke? What
Speaker 1: you have a scene where a black guy got stopped
Speaker 1: by a cop, or even having black people or Asian
Speaker 1: people or like Hispanic people in film. Yeah, like adversity
Speaker 1: of casting is like woke. I've been I've been seeing
Speaker 1: all these I've been seeing all of these commercials with
Speaker 1: these interracial relationships. Y'are doing a good job. I see
Speaker 1: that ship. But that's what they're considering woke. Like, so
Speaker 1: so while you have like you've got like you know,
Speaker 1: like the point that you're making with the Democratic politicians
Speaker 1: who kind of want to use this and adopt the
Speaker 1: language too, they're using it to wrap things up in
Speaker 1: their language. Of what they deemed to be progressive politics.
Speaker 1: All right, So when James Carville says the Democrats have
Speaker 1: a wokenness issue, he's talking about Medicare for all, and
Speaker 1: that's what he's sweeping into wokenus because he thinks he's slick.
Speaker 1: When the Republicans are talking about woken us and ship
Speaker 1: like that, they're essentially talking about anything having to do
Speaker 1: with black people. But the funny thing to me, the
Speaker 1: funny thing to me is that a lot of what
Speaker 1: they're talking about, it's like diversity initiatives and big corporations
Speaker 1: and like statements they issue about how they stand with
Speaker 1: Black Lives matter, which themselves are bullshit. They don't do anything. Um,
Speaker 1: they are cover for actually white supremacist structures which they
Speaker 1: don't actually want to challenge. But that's but that's woke,
Speaker 1: and some people are becoming embarrassed to even engage and
Speaker 1: what is otherwise already performative allyship quote unquote, But I mean,
Speaker 1: but this is like, uh, that's what I think. Is
Speaker 1: is something important for people on the left to pay
Speaker 1: attention to, though, because like this, like this has been
Speaker 1: a long ongoing project, Like conservatives have a vested interest
Speaker 1: in separating black people from their allies, whether those allies
Speaker 1: be through authentic, genuine allies, whether those allies be potential allies,
Speaker 1: or even if it's superficial performative ally ship there's conservatives
Speaker 1: have a vested interest in making sure that nobody on
Speaker 1: the left trust each other and that we're in fighting
Speaker 1: and fighting each other. That YadA YadA, YadA YadA, all
Speaker 1: that separation is going. Yeah, And I want to highlight
Speaker 1: again this final line in the Derek A. Bell quote.
Speaker 1: When a mood for slashing social programs can be powerfully
Speaker 1: embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped is
Speaker 1: what they are trying to seed. The continuation of it
Speaker 1: is directly correlated to data and historical understanding about UM
Speaker 1: racism as it has been perpetuated and perpetrated in this country. UM.
Speaker 1: Ignoring that as an argument for slashing social programs like
Speaker 1: medicare like snap or TIM like education that won't get
Speaker 1: into shortly about you know how this has been addressed
Speaker 1: in hip hop like that is what they want. That
Speaker 1: is the status quo that they're trying to maintain by
Speaker 1: not teaching people about racist because you don't if you
Speaker 1: don't know about the history of racism, then why why
Speaker 1: do we need social programs for uplift for people that
Speaker 1: have been historically discriminated against? What historical discrimination? It's fine,
Speaker 1: it's the cliche of anything you know, like you, if
Speaker 1: you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why they're telling teachers to teach two sides
Speaker 1: of the Holocaust. I there's a there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they want to ban fucking Tony Morrison books. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know that they're the the you know,
Speaker 1: the Texas the Texas Republicans. They have a list of
Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty books that they're combing through. The
Speaker 1: band stuff that's like innocent stuff, and they can't even
Speaker 1: describe to you what the thing that they have a
Speaker 1: problem is. So before we get into the music discussion,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give a little bit of advice to anybody,
Speaker 1: any of my UH debaters out there. If you ever
Speaker 1: find yourself in any sort of position where you have
Speaker 1: to talk about this, I would suggest that you don't yet,
Speaker 1: because the Republicans are not coming at it from any
Speaker 1: sort of genuine place. But if you must, I would
Speaker 1: say that you simply just ask them to define what
Speaker 1: woke is when they're talking about it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just ask them what is woke? And then
Speaker 1: if they don't want to answer that, give them some
Speaker 1: examples and tell them to tell you whether or not
Speaker 1: that's woke or not, because, like, just like straight up,
Speaker 1: since everybody wants to mention them, is Martin Luther King woke? Uh?
Speaker 1: If if Martin was stofice hearing that question, I'm asking
Speaker 1: by their definition, like the people who are you using
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King's name essentially to like speak out against
Speaker 1: the vague concept of wokenus. So I would ask them
Speaker 1: if Martin Luther King were a twenty year old activists
Speaker 1: right now on TikTok. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: would you call him woke? Honestly? You know what, I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to like be like this. However, probably not.
Speaker 1: We didn't have We didn't There wasn't really integration of
Speaker 1: like the gay liberation movement into what he was doing
Speaker 1: at the time, which I think is a large part
Speaker 1: of what people call woke. It's like, what do you
Speaker 1: mean that there respect someone's pronouns? What do you mean,
Speaker 1: a transgender woman is a woman, like I don't know
Speaker 1: if like you literally picked him okay and dropped him
Speaker 1: into I don't know if you'd be on the ship.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe with a couple of months, he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a cool thing that we should for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that, But I don't think that it's I don't
Speaker 1: think you will consider him. I think I think the
Speaker 1: racial aspect of wokeness is way way stronger and more
Speaker 1: attributed with with it than the I think he would
Speaker 1: ask me similarly, disagree that diversity statements and um, like
Speaker 1: you know, pr campaigns about how we stand with black
Speaker 1: lives from Amazon or whoever would be like authentically anti racist,
Speaker 1: and so in that way, he probably would not be
Speaker 1: seen as woke. But I it's also the most ridiculous
Speaker 1: conversation for I know, I mean, I think it's an
Speaker 1: important conversation. You gotta understand, right, Like, we live in
Speaker 1: a world where there's like an actual like debate right
Speaker 1: now amongst millions of people as to whether or not
Speaker 1: the next Matrix movie will be good because the trailer
Speaker 1: makes it look woke. You feel me like there's motherfucker's
Speaker 1: like really talking like, man, did you see that there's
Speaker 1: like a main character that's Asian and the matrix is
Speaker 1: the is the matrix woke? Now you feel like how
Speaker 1: like like how insidious that that that's used? It's like
Speaker 1: literally anything you know, like when you when you have
Speaker 1: conversations with a political people and like you talk about
Speaker 1: anything even remotely serious and like what do you always
Speaker 1: got to talk about politics? Man? You know, if anybody
Speaker 1: said that to me, I know that's what I'm about that.
Speaker 1: I well, unfortunately the people feel that way and see
Speaker 1: me coming there like, oh, I gotta go, I gotta
Speaker 1: go real quick, y'all. But I mean, essentially that's what
Speaker 1: it is, right. I just I just foresee I foresee
Speaker 1: like a short amount of time coming up. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would it will take that long to radicalize
Speaker 1: people like this, but I can foresee a future where, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a story that came out where such and such
Speaker 1: was the cues they're sexually harassing this many women. The
Speaker 1: only reason you guys have problems with that is because
Speaker 1: you're woke. PC. Oh this story came out where we
Speaker 1: just so the cops shoot a black kid while paling Hitler.
Speaker 1: The only reason you guys care about that is because
Speaker 1: you're woke. You're woke PC critical race theory, will caps culture. Ye. Hey,
Speaker 1: I think that we should pass this social program because
Speaker 1: this marginalized group is in YadA YadA position. The only
Speaker 1: reason you want to help those people because you're woke.
Speaker 1: PC cup lipt heard cancel culture. You know. It's it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's not a good spot to be in.
Speaker 1: And I mean to your point, maybe because they successfully
Speaker 1: have been able to convince black people that when they're
Speaker 1: talking about wokenness, that they're talking about annoying internet people
Speaker 1: with blue hair. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: in actuality, what they're talking about is, hey man, whenever
Speaker 1: these fucking niggers say that they should have uh their
Speaker 1: job opportunities, tell them to stop being woke. Right, That's
Speaker 1: that's what they talk about. They don't want to RG
Speaker 1: in schools. They mean, they don't want black teachers, no
Speaker 1: one about history. They don't want black children. But they
Speaker 1: can't say that anymore. They're they're not they're not even
Speaker 1: hiding it though, yo, Like I mean, I saw a
Speaker 1: report that Vice did not too long ago, where they
Speaker 1: were interviewing one of those critical race theory crusaders and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I mean, this guy is sitting
Speaker 1: on knowing what like five cameras on them, unboxed, openly
Speaker 1: talking about like yeah, well, you know when I say
Speaker 1: critical race theory, what we really mean is multiculturalism. We
Speaker 1: gotta get rid of that. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: anything that's talking about equity, Um, we need to get
Speaker 1: that out of out of the vernacular and involved blah.
Speaker 1: Anything that talks about social responsibility, we need to take that.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, they're saying it open in those terms.
Speaker 1: So I just I just I'm you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: when I see otherwise cool people, or not even otherwise
Speaker 1: cool people, when I see people that, like I used
Speaker 1: to I think we're cool, like you know, the the
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's and the Bill Maher's of the world and
Speaker 1: ship like that, and the Glenn Greenwalts. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm knowing. You know, I'm not the smartest
Speaker 1: cat in the world, but it's like, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: I could come up with a comprehensive lists of problems
Speaker 1: that the country that black people, that the left, I
Speaker 1: could come up with a list of problems that we
Speaker 1: got in whether or not people care too much about
Speaker 1: marginalized groups. That's like the problem because that's what woken said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like in a nutshell, that's
Speaker 1: what it is like when when a politics when a
Speaker 1: politician or political operative says you should stop being woke.
Speaker 1: Democrats should stop being woke. That's what they mean. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, the next George Floyd, how about you guys
Speaker 1: just like you know, be chill, be chill about it,
Speaker 1: feel about it, don't don't talk about it too much
Speaker 1: because that's critical race theory, cancel culture woke Liptard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we gotta be careful you. But don't don't listen
Speaker 1: to these funny style niggas man these these days Chappelle Diggs,
Speaker 1: you know, like like like your wokeness is not on
Speaker 1: your top two hundreds of things that you should be
Speaker 1: worried about, and these niggas telling you that it's cat,
Speaker 1: It's carry up, it's cat. Before we transition into the
Speaker 1: music section, two things I would like to say. First
Speaker 1: of all, when Martin Luther King Jr. Was assassinated on
Speaker 1: the April four, he was in the midst of uniting
Speaker 1: the white and black working classes to rise up to
Speaker 1: demand a federal job guarantee, which today is now being
Speaker 1: you know, carried forth by folks like Brine Sanders. Hence
Speaker 1: democratic socialism of Martin Luther King something people talk about.
Speaker 1: And so I bring this up because what this really is,
Speaker 1: what this whole CRT thing is about. I mean, as
Speaker 1: much you nailed it, but what underneath it is a
Speaker 1: desire to divide the black and white working classes so
Speaker 1: they fight each other instead of fighting capitalism. So figuring
Speaker 1: out some kind of wedge of trying to tell white
Speaker 1: people that teachers are trying to make their kids feel
Speaker 1: bad stokes racial animosity, so they don't feel that empathy
Speaker 1: that they feel when they watch George Floyd get his
Speaker 1: neat his neck knelt on for eight minutes. You know,
Speaker 1: that feeling you feel. They're trying to like pull them
Speaker 1: back from that, like no, no, no, no no, I empathize
Speaker 1: to those people, fear them. And this is why and
Speaker 1: how um the other thing I wanted to touch upon
Speaker 1: I forgot. So let's get into the netubes. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I talked too much. No, I talked too much. I
Speaker 1: can I Yeah, and I've had some drink. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the music discussion right after the job.
Speaker 1: I we back, were back, and you know, I sat
Speaker 1: out today to find some examples of um music that
Speaker 1: touches upon the content of what they are really teaching
Speaker 1: people in school in the in in how it has been,
Speaker 1: how it does manifest and hip hop music. But interestingly,
Speaker 1: more often than not, what you will actually find in
Speaker 1: terms of commentary about our education system is that folks
Speaker 1: aren't engaging with it at all, for reasons I will discuss.
Speaker 1: There is one example what that I thought was interesting
Speaker 1: in Let's see what was it? So in Remi's education
Speaker 1: featuring resident children in the world pointing on much I
Speaker 1: don't want to Riza so like this is like him
Speaker 1: talking to his teacher about how they don't teach the
Speaker 1: true history. They tell us about Columbus, but they don't
Speaker 1: tell us about how slaves built America, talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: the Dark Age has happened. They don't explain why we
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about it, and they certainly don't
Speaker 1: talk about how these things correlate with the conditions we
Speaker 1: are seeing today the average college kids stuck with all wages,
Speaker 1: hence students walking around with twelve cages. So I really
Speaker 1: touching upon the inadjeclacy of the content that is being taught,
Speaker 1: like actually being taught in schools at least at this time. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like and this is just
Speaker 1: the this is like the reactions to stuff that's omitted,
Speaker 1: like the stuff that's not taught, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: imagine what we're looking at when literal disinformation is being taught. Right,
Speaker 1: So they're trying to say, oh, crt sus, No, they
Speaker 1: literally are teaching us black history. Actually, if they did,
Speaker 1: then like it's like almost like a defensive like a
Speaker 1: like a like a no, it's like an offensive they're
Speaker 1: teaching like the actual full history of the country itself.
Speaker 1: I didn't learn about June Team until I was an adult.
Speaker 1: I didn't learn about Unto until I was adult. Like
Speaker 1: when I'm straight up, I did not know, oh the
Speaker 1: slaves or free Lincoln was such a great person like
Speaker 1: all that. I did not learn like so much about
Speaker 1: the history of our country until I just sawed it
Speaker 1: out myself as an adult. And roslet's call this out
Speaker 1: like you did. What they are to us to said,
Speaker 1: oh fortunity do Columbus south the ocean blue, and then
Speaker 1: everything was fucking lit for the Indians until suddenly they're
Speaker 1: all dead. I don't know how that happened, et cetera,
Speaker 1: especially not teaching us how this is now linked with
Speaker 1: the condition to that we are living to today. But
Speaker 1: otherwise in music, they pretty much just talked and they
Speaker 1: like talk about how fucking school was boring, which but
Speaker 1: particularly I just found a lot of references to the
Speaker 1: link between like disaffection with schooling and incarceration, which gets
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: is that how another thing this whole debate is trying
Speaker 1: to distract from is like we don't distruct them, but
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, srually is bad. Oh one of cheading
Speaker 1: in schools is bad as like a front for defunding education. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's how they then create the conditions in the
Speaker 1: community where they have enough crime that they can make
Speaker 1: excuses for incarcerating scores and scores of African Americans. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that like the things that we the things
Speaker 1: that we come across and read in in things that
Speaker 1: inform us when we're like in that school age. I
Speaker 1: just think it's like way too important to be fucking
Speaker 1: around which ship like this, ye know? And I just
Speaker 1: think of like certain things that I was exposed to
Speaker 1: just about like world history or World War two or
Speaker 1: the Space program, just learning ship shape, you know, that
Speaker 1: shaped me into the person that I am today, with
Speaker 1: the worldview that I have. And it's like when I
Speaker 1: think back of like, man, what if somebody had denied
Speaker 1: me that, What if I hadn't gotten to read that
Speaker 1: or see that when I was that age? Like what
Speaker 1: type of person would that have turned me into? And
Speaker 1: that makes me like, yeah, it makes me shudder to
Speaker 1: think that. It's like, in fifteen years we could have
Speaker 1: a whole legion of kids that are grown up pretty
Speaker 1: much thinking that that young can blurb that you read earlier,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that that's the sort
Speaker 1: of ship that Again, it's like long term projects because
Speaker 1: Republicans are always trying to win, like actually win, so
Speaker 1: on a long term project, Yeah, that ship fox up
Speaker 1: progress more than anything. And it's like they found that
Speaker 1: racket and it seems like they've got some momentum behind it.
Speaker 1: What other songs we've got so in the songs where
Speaker 1: they kind of talk about education. Largely, what I found
Speaker 1: is people talking about it's just general inadequacy, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot to do with just the disciplinary nature
Speaker 1: of the education system. Let's look at for example, education
Speaker 1: by Freddie gibbson Mad Live off of Freddie Gibbs and
Speaker 1: Mad Libs two thousand nineteen album Bandana Songs featuring Yasine
Speaker 1: Bay and a Black Thought fucking Killer Collapse Goddamn like
Speaker 1: the Gil Mobile crowd at the empty do School Seated
Speaker 1: Devil twitching is it's from the strange Um. In the
Speaker 1: first verse, Yasine Bay talking about they go in one way,
Speaker 1: they come out crazy peace preparatory school and like you know,
Speaker 1: and talking about he goes on to talk about imperialism,
Speaker 1: emperors and conquerors, pharaohs, comparing them arguably to goblins and
Speaker 1: monsters um. And then in the later verse, oh, kids
Speaker 1: graduating from public schools and prisoners um, underprivileged Aboriginal indigenous
Speaker 1: talking about like the shared struggle of all people's of
Speaker 1: color to gain representation in our curricula. And since you
Speaker 1: don't see yourself reflected in that curricula, you're like, fucking
Speaker 1: why should I go to school. And then there's there's
Speaker 1: the lyrics about like you know, I was feeling disaffected,
Speaker 1: not giving a shit about this off those obedience because
Speaker 1: like why you know, why, like why play this game? UM?
Speaker 1: A lot of songs. I think this one included for
Speaker 1: particularly the next one we're gonna talk about um and
Speaker 1: then yeah and then and then education by remedies as well.
Speaker 1: How about education that people are instead gaining in the streets.
Speaker 1: And I bring this up because I do think we
Speaker 1: learn a lot from like our lived experience is a
Speaker 1: is a form of education where experts and a lot
Speaker 1: of things because the things that we've lived through. And
Speaker 1: there is a um increasingly popular strand of like pedagogical
Speaker 1: theory of just like you know, education theory that says,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even like it came out in
Speaker 1: the nineties with like loroyal ads and billings, but like
Speaker 1: a lot of folks that you do, like I teach
Speaker 1: to my students, like you know, I teach elementary school
Speaker 1: students and landteacher, or I teach elementary school teachers. I
Speaker 1: teaches all the times thing called culturally relevant pedagogy, where
Speaker 1: you try to find like to bring people's cultures into
Speaker 1: the classroom to make their educational experience more relevant to them,
Speaker 1: because you're harnessing the knowledge that they already have two
Speaker 1: um accommodate them to recognize what they already know, to
Speaker 1: show that it is valuable, and thereby making you know,
Speaker 1: learning abc s and motigication tables more attractive. UM. But
Speaker 1: what's interesting, and I think contributes his conversation, is that
Speaker 1: I teach the ship to my elementary school teachers, and
Speaker 1: I learned it a lot myself, you know, in school.
Speaker 1: But this isn't really making it into public schools because
Speaker 1: they are so rigid in the same ways that pushed
Speaker 1: people out, because there's so many regulations. It's so much
Speaker 1: like so many restrictions around what you're actually allowed to
Speaker 1: do in your own classroom, where we don't very often
Speaker 1: bring the experiences of black children, Inrodigenous children or whoever
Speaker 1: into the classroom to see so that they can see
Speaker 1: it validated and feel more affirmed by schooling. So it's
Speaker 1: like I said, I was to say, the way we
Speaker 1: teach already is inadequate. It's clearly alienating children. They don't
Speaker 1: see themselves reflected in the classroom. They don't give a ship,
Speaker 1: they get pushed out, they end up in jail. Um
Speaker 1: and partially because schools are underfunded and schools are like
Speaker 1: seen as like pretty much this preparation for president anyways, um,
Speaker 1: which like with the CRT, shir CRT, just gives Republicans
Speaker 1: called for, like I was said earlier, to this defund
Speaker 1: education further. And in Georgia they did de funded education
Speaker 1: by a billion dollars back in two thousands and maybe
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty billion dollars. But if they're teaching kids, well
Speaker 1: they honestly ought to be teaching kids. Um, well, while
Speaker 1: we cut their funding, we're not paying for that ship.
Speaker 1: We're not paying for kids to see themselves reflected in
Speaker 1: their curriculum, which they aren't, but let's assume they aren't.
Speaker 1: And I think I think these lyrics that kind of
Speaker 1: get into that a little bit. For the next one, though,
Speaker 1: we got the homely propaganda. The home Propaganda Propa came
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about how police are like
Speaker 1: gangs back in the day. He's got the song Board
Speaker 1: of Education b O r E D of Education. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to it real quick. You're just testing my ability
Speaker 1: to regurgitate, and if your best instructors are miserable. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's not the kids vault. So in this
Speaker 1: he speaks somewhat to like the regimentation of the schooling
Speaker 1: that we currently receive. We sit in rows and listen
Speaker 1: to pontifications, passing written exams, Board of Education. All I've
Speaker 1: learned from your system is the fact that it's just
Speaker 1: a system, um testing my ability to regurgitake just speaking
Speaker 1: to like how disciplinarian schooling currently is, and like I
Speaker 1: can't overstate it. It really is just getting kids ready
Speaker 1: for prison. Of like someone's gonna tell you what to
Speaker 1: do all day and if you act up a little bit,
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw you in the hole. Um and pine
Speaker 1: the prison pipeline. There's no room for free thought, no
Speaker 1: room for critical thinking, no room for challenging authority. I
Speaker 1: think it's a meme at this point, but like they're
Speaker 1: never gonna give you the tools you need to overthrow them.
Speaker 1: They don't want you to really do critically about ship um.
Speaker 1: Even if they do, they sit mixed messages by at
Speaker 1: one time inspiring critical thing thinking but then didn't YouTube
Speaker 1: the Principle's office of your mouth off too much, And
Speaker 1: I think he speaks to that here just like man,
Speaker 1: y'all get us lined up next to our lockers to
Speaker 1: march the lunch room to eat our dry baloney sandwiches,
Speaker 1: and like got to raise your hand if you're ready
Speaker 1: to talk, and if you don't talk enough, you can
Speaker 1: f So all these ways we're already alien. Were like
Speaker 1: alien the kids that are like they're not even absorbing
Speaker 1: the content because they don't give a funk because you're
Speaker 1: telling them what to do all the time, just producing lemmings, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then driving them off the cliff on purpose. So
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, like, oh, what areur kids actually learning
Speaker 1: in school, they're not a whole lot of a whole
Speaker 1: lot of nothing, because we fucking like are just squeezing
Speaker 1: the life out of them and like not at all
Speaker 1: allowing any opportunity for them to see themselves reflected in
Speaker 1: the curricula, which is what like what your Republicans are
Speaker 1: afraid of, Like, oh, a black child, these like there
Speaker 1: are people like in the textbook God Forbid, which isn't happening,
Speaker 1: but they're imagining that it is. They're not learning about civics,
Speaker 1: they're not learning like the full story of the civil
Speaker 1: rights movement. They're not learning about sucking how the government works.
Speaker 1: Ship's grim, but you know what's great rapping as always?
Speaker 1: Can you drop a funky fresh flag beat for us? Is?
Speaker 1: I don't know, bam yeah, and I'm hoping it's in
Speaker 1: poor taste. I need the weed like broken neath the
Speaker 1: horse paste. I keep the seeds just like it was
Speaker 1: my foretaste. I'm about to smash on this beach. This
Speaker 1: was four play twelve trying to put me in the chokehold.
Speaker 1: I think I really need to give a damn about
Speaker 1: a walk school. No, because militia men take it arms
Speaker 1: trying to bomb niggas while comedians where we're about who
Speaker 1: canceled on Twitter? Yo, that ship is captain, you can
Speaker 1: think it's dope. Put that ship is wack. I can
Speaker 1: make a list of bigger issues if I think of that.
Speaker 1: And leftist drifters who do it for the next check.
Speaker 1: Talking about wokeness is sounding like the s S and
Speaker 1: I mean all of them. Bill Margaret Walden of waiting
Speaker 1: at the phone when all right be calling them they collaborators,
Speaker 1: They just agitators. I'm just trying to style hard and
Speaker 1: just wrap the greatest to me to leave rehearsal arguments
Speaker 1: for redistributing resources to the hardest hit and whether I
Speaker 1: just said can don the world of all the folks
Speaker 1: in charge of it, or if it's arduous as means
Speaker 1: we are to quit what can be accomplished by the
Speaker 1: state mounted on the bone to the indigenous the sorrows
Speaker 1: of the slaves are worth a two engates or something
Speaker 1: we can change is the change we get enough to
Speaker 1: justify playing the game? Super valid questions one that I'm
Speaker 1: myself expressed with, even though I'm on the inside and
Speaker 1: arguably to blame as long as there's a government then
Speaker 1: getting it to nudget. But it's better than nothing, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying the best to play a dope knife Frank
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