1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You were listening to Winny on reparations and production of 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, hey, party people, what is happening? 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: My name is Dope Knife Franco and we are waiting 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: on reparations. Cut us our check? So what is going 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: on with you? Didn't you just get out of a meeting? 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I did? I did. We talked about redistricting. That's interesting. 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's less interesting at the local level 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: than it is at the state and like federal but um, 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: sort of learning the principles of you know, the Voting 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Rights Act and like how that must be translated into 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: how this out of work, what different people are trying 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: to get out of the process. It's fairly new to 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: me because this only happens every ten years. So oh no, man, 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was I but yeah, just a bunch 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: of other pretty mundane things. So that was the big one, yeah, 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's just redistricting. Redistricting is about to 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: be like a big I mean I'm not that it's 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: not a big issue now, but it's about to show 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: its weight coming up soon in the elections, right, Yeah, 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I for sure it will probably make a big difference 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: in some places. Um, the Republicans will try everything possible 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to fuck working people and brown people and black people. Um, 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: which is why it's it was like so interesting and 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: yet so frustrating to discuss redistricting here because what we're 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: discussing is the local commission maps that we wanted to 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: send to the state legislature to ask for approval. Like, hey, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: we did this work to figure out how to redistrict 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: here you go. You know, we have this intimate knowledge 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: of our own community, and this is what we think 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: to happen, and you know what they're gonna do, Like 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna just ignore the ignore, completely ignore it, and 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: find some way to screw people over. Um. Like I've 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: talked through a lot of the nightmare scenarios in which 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: they could possibly just turn. They could just renumber the 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: districts and make it so that every all the incumbents, 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: everyone currently representing these people it's no no longer live 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: in the district number that they are, which means that 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: everyone who just got elected would have to fight for 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: reelection in the spring. Like they could just do that 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: and screw everyone if they wanted to. And so it 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: was just like, wow, this is fascinating and also so 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: useless because no, they're not gonna listen to us. Where 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: the concept of redistrict can come from. So it's to 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: get the districts back into within I think ten of 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: each other so that everyone is representing, you know, so 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: that let's say, um, here, I'm my district gained three 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: thousand people and maybe another district lost three thousand people. Um, 48 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: And so that means fewer people are getting represented by 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: one person in one area where I whereas I have 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: to represent more people in another area, which means their 51 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: vote counts less technically because they're represented by the same 52 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: amount the one person people. Yeah, I think I'm explaining 53 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: this terribly. And so it's getting the districts back in 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: alignment so everyone has equal representation. People in one district 55 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: one representative four d fifty or fourteen thousand and fifty 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: in another one representative. So getting the maps back into 57 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: shape so that everyone has equal representation supposedly, um, but 58 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tricky ways to do that where 59 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: you can break up I mean, you're technically not supposed 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: to break up minority communities like literally the Rights Acts 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: as you're not supposed to do. But if you can 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: get technically not supposed across the street when the lights 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: were at exactly exactly, yes, exactly, technically not's supposed to 64 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: smoke weed. However, I don't know how we're still beholden 65 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: some of these like archaic weirdo rules that were made 66 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty years ago that totally don't 67 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: apply to the modern world. And like that, I mean, yeah, 68 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. You know, I'm not I'm definitely sure. 69 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm not the first person to suggested, but I don't know. 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Maybe like every like fifteen years, we should go look 71 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: at all that ship and kind of reconsider what we 72 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: need or what we don't need and what needs to 73 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: be checked. The Senate the most democratic institution, like codified 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: in law, like what and here we still are, Oh imagine, 75 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: please don't let me die in the climate induced fire. 76 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: And then you know, I don't know, on the board 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, something out quick, because like you said, 78 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: the Republicans are definitely going to use that ship to 79 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: their advantage. Speaking of to NS using stuff to their advantage, 80 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: It's kind of like what we're gonna be talking about today. 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: So last week's election results seem to have like the 82 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: whole Democratic Party and a little bit of disarray. Republicans 83 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: claimed all statewide offices in Virginia, and they were likely Yeah, 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: they took all of them all for election. I made yeah, sorry, sorry, okay, No, 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: it's fine, yah. I mean because it's equally possible that 86 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: the ones that were not weren't up for re election. 87 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: They went and like, it's looking like they're going to 88 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: take control of the state's delegates to um. Two of 89 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: those races. Two of those races are pretty tighten or 90 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: in recount right now, but it's looking like they're going 91 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: to get that. They gave a scare to uh New 92 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: Jersey Governor Phil Murphy. Um. That one didn't get called 93 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: to like the next day and by much dinner margin. Yeah, 94 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: being a little nervous about that one, but you pulled 95 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: it off. Um. So not. You know, like anyone who's 96 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: been following the in particular the Virginia election, you know, 97 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: at the near the tail end of that, the election 98 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: kind of took a turn. I think there was like 99 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: a something stupid. There was like a like twenty or 100 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: thirty point swing or something like that where mcculloff was 101 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: up by like ten points and then over the course 102 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: of like a week and then it was down by ten, 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it kind of centered 104 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: around the whole concept of critical race theory, which is 105 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: the academic legal concept that we'll get into later UM, 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: but using that in kind of having a laser focus, 107 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: almost droning approach to hammering that in critical race theory, 108 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: critical race theory, they're gonna be teaching that in school. 109 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Critical race theory workness is bad. Critical race theory workness 110 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: is bad. He managed to get you know, white people 111 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: to get into a little bit of a race panic 112 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: over weird black stuff being taught to their kids in 113 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: the school. Suff new name of this pot Cats Actually 114 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: we're branding UM now in the wake of all of this. 115 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know how like whenever these motherfucker's be 116 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: losing elections, they like to do the whole campaign autopsy 117 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: the same. So they've you know, like you've been having 118 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Democratic operatives and other elected officials and they've they've been 119 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: looking back at what's been going on, and their conclusion 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: is not that Terry McCullough uh fed into the fake 121 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: debate about critical race theory and wokeness and didn't concentrate 122 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: on a strong economic message, and they're there. Their conclusion 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: is not that Joe Biden and the Senate and the 124 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: House didn't give politicians like Democrats like Terry McCullough anything 125 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: to really run on other than Trump is bad. Trump 126 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: is bad. So they're they're can inclusion is that it 127 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: is critical race theory. And you know, even more broader 128 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: than that and more vague wokeness, the concept of wokeness there. 129 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: That is what there wanting to attribute blame for their 130 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: losses last week too, is the concept of wokeness, that 131 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Democrats are being too woke, that the left has a 132 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: wokeness issue. So that's what we're gonna be talking about today. 133 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about critical race theory, wokeness, what it is, 134 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: what it isn't, and how the right wing is using 135 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: both to essentially radicalize half the country and a lot 136 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: of smart people to a lot of people that you 137 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: think are smart that you might hear them talk about 138 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: wokeness like it's an actual, like like a thing like 139 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: at the issue. You know, that's that's something that's got 140 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: me shocked. But we're gonna we're gonna get into that 141 00:08:53,679 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: and more after the joke, all right, we're back, and 142 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about First of all, 143 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: let's let's let's set the record straight about what critical 144 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,479 Speaker 1: race theory is UM and a little of where it's 145 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: where it's resurgence and repackaging as this boogeyman um has 146 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: come from. So critical race theory I've started a little 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: bit in graduate school. It's like a framework of analysis 148 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: and an academic movement of civil rights scholars activists who 149 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: seek to examine the intersection of race and law in 150 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: the United States and challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to 151 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: racial justice UM that examine social, cultural, and legal issues. 152 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Keeywere legal issues primarily as they relate to race and 153 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: racism United States. And the maintenance of CRT is that 154 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: racism and disparate racial outcomes are the results of complex, 155 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: changing and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than 156 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals per Wikiediam. But so 157 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's about the law. It's about upholding of 158 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: these systems of its institutions that give rise to disparate 159 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: racial outcomes rather than like Kyle in fifth grade called 160 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: me an African beast when I held the door open forehand, 161 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: which is a growth thing that happened, but like critical 162 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: race theory actually looks at more of the institutional systemic 163 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: causes and effects. So it's very important that we started 164 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: it off with that, because what Mariah just read is 165 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the very first paragraph on the Wikipedia page for critical 166 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: race theory. Pay attention to like that last bit when 167 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: it says that UM racism and disparate racial outcomes are 168 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: the result of complex, changing and often subtle social and 169 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: institutional dynamics rather than explicit, intentional prejudices of individuals. Now, 170 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: if you ask any right winger in the country right now, 171 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: like what is critical race theory, why is it bad? 172 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: And what is your problem with it? They literally would 173 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: tell you the opposite of what it says. What the Wikipedia, 174 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: they're trying to paint it as this, as this thing 175 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: is like a critical race theory is about UM saying 176 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: pretty much critical they're a little bit like to paint 177 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: a caricature that critical race theory is about UM streaming 178 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: about racism all the time and saying that people are 179 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: racist and know this person is racist and that's racist, 180 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: and that's racism. You should feel bad as a personal 181 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: individual for racism when like literally little people. Really I'm 182 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: not saying that's that is a separate issue, that's like 183 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: a separate discussion, but like the actual thing that critical 184 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: race theory is like literally like it says a tenant 185 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: is that it's not about like putting like the onus 186 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: of racism on the personal actions of people, and it's 187 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: more about the systems and stuff like that. So the 188 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: way it's codified into law, on the way the law 189 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: is enacted, um, and there's like this, yeah, this institute 190 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I used this term too much, this institutional inertia of 191 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: like the way things were is the way things people 192 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: always do things and the way things will always be. 193 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: So if it was like constructed by racist people hundreds 194 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: of years ago, the systems they set up, or that 195 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: you know what we were talking about the Senate earlier. 196 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about all of these arcane legal institutions that 197 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: we still live by. And it's like, though that, let's 198 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: look at that. Let's look at that instead of like 199 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: a little timmy, hate yourself. Why don't you You're five 200 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: years old. You should have learned to hate yourself by 201 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, So okay, So I wanted to to 202 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: put a little like historical context on not only like 203 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: how CRT is being used right now, but also how 204 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: this pertains to the results of the election in Virginia, 205 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: and just historical trends with regards to the swing from 206 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the left to the right that I have noticed. I mean, 207 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I've only lived there tears in this world, but for 208 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: my entire life, every time there's a been a Democratic elected, 209 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: the NXT person is a Republican, and then they get reelected, 210 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: and then it is a Democrat again, it gets relaxed 211 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: and then's Republican and so um, like I think maybe, 212 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and maybe people who have not touched upon 213 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: this have more historical context than I and that's why 214 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: the time can come up. But I haven't seen enough 215 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: people saying that this is just how the swing goes. 216 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: Democrats take power, Republicans freak the funk out, and anger 217 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: is such a motivating emotion, Like anger is such a 218 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: motivating emotion to go out and vote. And so the 219 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Republicans are angry at the Democrats right now because they 220 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: don't hold power. So they come out and drove and 221 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: they elect someone like Glenn Yonkan or whatever the fund is. 222 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: It's glenniuncan right, Youngcan sounds like I don't know, he 223 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: belongs to the Lollipop Guild or some ship. But so 224 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: it's just like, of course this would happen, like this 225 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: always happens. I don't know what you're trying to. Oh, 226 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: you're in CRT. Oh it's wokeness. Oh we went too 227 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: far left. Oh there wasn't economic message, Like, no, you 228 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: just can't beat people who are angry. And we're not 229 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: angry right now because we're in power. We are the 230 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are in power, so no one's angry, so they 231 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: don't come out and vote. That's one historical trend that 232 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I think applies to the situation, and I think it's correct. 233 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I just I think that I think if we were 234 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: just talking about CRT, like if CRT was the only thing, 235 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: then I would agree with that. But I think that 236 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: the broader concept of wokeness is what makes the whole 237 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: situation a lot more insidious and potentially like dangerous and vibly. 238 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: But well, we'll get into that later on. What was 239 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: the next thing you're gonna say? So the next thing 240 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is that this is not the 241 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: first time that dog whistles haven't used to reclaim the 242 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: moral high ground. Um, you know, for reactionaries to reclaim 243 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the moral high ground and repackage white supremacy and racism 244 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: in a way that's latable to the people in suburbs, 245 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: so they can keep doing the same project that they've 246 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: been doing since Jim Crow. CRT is now being used 247 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: as a dog, which was all much like law and 248 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: order was being used by Reagan in the nineteen sixties. 249 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: It was a response to white fears about losing their 250 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: status in the racial order and to ensure continued subjugation 251 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: of people of color. They couldn't come out and say 252 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: we hate the niggers anymore. And even there's there's the 253 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: documentation of like politicians at the time saying that like, well, 254 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: you can't call go around and call people the in word, 255 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: so what are we gonna do? So what they did 256 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: was start focusing on cracking down on crime and reinstating 257 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: law and order as a coded way to talk about 258 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: people of color. And so at the time the civil 259 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: rights movement had gained the moral of her hand on conservatives. 260 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: They had marched the streets there, you know, we're on 261 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: the news stations getting beaten in fire host and attacked 262 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: by dogs, and sudden people were like, maybe racism is bad. 263 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: So conservatives had to make up a way to reframe 264 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: things in order to make white superman see attractive. So 265 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: they started talking about locking up criminals. What do they 266 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: made by criminals black people? Um talking about cleaning up 267 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: our streets? What's the trash on the streets black people? 268 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: And and you know what ultimately came out of that 269 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: is it was so effective the Democrats then took on 270 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: the same framing of you know what, I'm gonna be 271 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: tougher than the Republicans on crime if that's why you 272 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: had the crime bill in next any four passed under 273 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's administration to be like, oh, we can play 274 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: that game too. Which is the part of the story 275 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: that I'm not sure how this is going to turn out, 276 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: because Okay, the same thing happened George Floyd uprising last summer, 277 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Republicans and Conservatives concreasingly losing their footing and arguments for 278 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: upholding racism in the face of video footage of black 279 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: people getting murdered, and so conservatives had to find a 280 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: new fight teaching about racism in schools. So here we are, um, 281 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. How I mean, like, I 282 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: think we could speak somewhat to the way that the 283 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: left has responded to the UM. I yeah, polling for 284 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the Virginia election has definitely I mean, you know, take polls, 285 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: take poles as you want them, but I mean, from 286 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: a polling perspective, the ship is working. And and like 287 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: if like, if you have a concern about democratic electoral politics, 288 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: then yeah, you should be scared because it's looking like 289 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blood bath that probably gonna gonna 290 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: take over everything. And it does seem like these you know, 291 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: two people like us what seemed like ridiculous you know, 292 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: ridiculously argued cultural issues. It's working on people, on a 293 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: lot of people. Here's what I have to say about 294 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: the polling is that up in the two that's since 295 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: seen election, everyone thought Hilly Clinton was gonna win because 296 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the polling showed that she had the most support. And 297 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: it has been surmised that that was the case because 298 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: conservatives were because of their distry, institutions, and perhaps even 299 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: embarrassment about supporting Donald Trump. We're not responsive to polls now. 300 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: We are in an era I might guess where Republicans 301 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: feel like they have been validated because everyone's feel like 302 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: in my premast and Baptists feel like they have been 303 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: validated by the Trump administration, like, oh, we're the silom majority, 304 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and so perhaps now in the polls they are more 305 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: comfortable with speaking their opinion. They think it's more important 306 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: to speak out about how they really feel. But well, um, 307 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: because they think that they are the majority, perhaps they 308 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: trust the institutions more in that they had institutional power 309 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: for four years, and so maybe that's what we're seeing 310 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: and like, oh, it's working. Like well, maybe people are 311 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: saying they're scared of CRT, but they weren't saying that 312 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: they're going to vote for Donald Trump at that's sixteen 313 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: and something has changed with regards to how they are 314 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: responding to inquiries into their political beliefs. Possibly, I don't know. Again, 315 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: I think the CRT is just like the CRT is 316 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: just like a specific aspect of it. Though, like, for example, 317 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: all right, so um, along with the rush for them 318 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: to change all these voting laws and stuff like that, 319 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: the Republicans have been doing the same feverish work on 320 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: local and federal level for the last year. Getting this 321 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: brought this vague concept of what they interpret critical race 322 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: theory to be. They've been working feverishly to get books banned, 323 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: to get curriculums changed, to get fanatics in in Q 324 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: and on weirdos elected to school boards and stuff like that. 325 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: They've been working hard to do all of this ship 326 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: and I just think that there's like a more insidious 327 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: reason why than the the usual same old like dynamics 328 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: that that that have been playing out for the hundred 329 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: years some so Republican rep. Steve toth Um is an 330 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: example of like where Republicans are going with this. So 331 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: he was I wanted to respond to something you do said, 332 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: because I think the CRT panic has an interesting parallel 333 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: with the abolitionist movement that you know really took off, 334 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: had been seated for decades, but like really took off 335 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: last summer, and that abolitionists consider how we plant seeds 336 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: that grow into a society where we don't depend on 337 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: police in prisons. We know that world is not going 338 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: to happen overnight. Another election result that came out last 339 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: week was you know, Minneapolis voting down a measure to 340 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: um abolish and created abolished a police department and create 341 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: a new agency. Like you know, it's we we're not 342 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna win tomorrow, but like, if we start seeding these ideas, 343 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: one day, we can create that world. Why I think 344 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: this is a parallel to CRT is that perhaps they 345 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: are seeing that we can reclaim the social order if 346 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: we make sure kids don't learn about racism. And if 347 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: those kids don't learn about racism, they will grow up 348 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: to not to stop fighting. They can't fight racism. I 349 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: don't know how it has been enacted historically, and so 350 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: the same idea of seating, the seating, the planning the 351 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: necessary seeds for a world that continues to be racist, 352 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: And you're one that's exactly what I'm getting at. And 353 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I think that you know, I think unfortunately, because they're 354 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: they're able to link the stuff in with this other 355 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: vague term of wokeness and what that means, I think 356 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: that they're being more successful in these ideas than in 357 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: the past. So so yeah, I mean, like like you mentioned, um, 358 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: like corporatist Democrats are already seizing onto oh we were 359 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: too woke, taking on their framing and the same way 360 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: the Democrats previously were like, oh no, we can be 361 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: tougher on crime but let's all the people. Even that 362 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: is just like a cultural I mean, even that's like 363 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: a political thing. Like if you just look at from 364 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, how many how many uh like athletes 365 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: or celebrities or rappers and musicians or comedians especially do 366 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: we hear now talking about woke? Oh I hate woke, 367 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: woke woke? This this thing is woke. The fucking quarterback 368 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in football got caught lying about his vaccination status. 369 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: He told everybody that he was vaccinated when he wasn't 370 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: really vaccinated. When they found out that he wasn't vaccinated, 371 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: do you know what he said? I see that I'm 372 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: getting canceled by the woke mob. You see what I mean? 373 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: It's like this is like there, this is their opportunity 374 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: to have something that they can sweep everything that they 375 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: don't like into that shuts down the conversation and that 376 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: can trick otherwise I guess I don't say, well attention, 377 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: but otherwise gullible people into their ship. So like you know, 378 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: they're they all of these Republicans are bringing up Martin 379 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Luther King now when they're talking about it, so about 380 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: pursuit of banning books in Texas. Um, you got this 381 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Republican rep. Steve Toth And he said, Um, this book 382 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: band is what he's saying. It echoes Dr King's wish 383 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: that we should judge people on the content of their character, 384 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: not the color of their skin. Critical race. I hear 385 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: a single other Conservatives this line. Okay, go on, He said, 386 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: critical race theory is a Marxist doctrine that rejects the 387 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: vision of Martin that they're King. Now, what did there 388 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King back in the communist and of Marxist 389 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: because he was critical of capitalism. This is about this 390 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: is about changing the direction of ship. This is like 391 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: a long term game. And I mean it, it's just 392 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: like I just I just think that because I know 393 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: how many people who I think are cool or who 394 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: I think are smart, who have like a good head 395 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: on their shoulders, that I find myself talking to them 396 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: about political things, and these motherfuckers bring up wokeness like 397 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: a if wokeness was an issue, that it even cracks 398 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: like the top hundred of stuff that motherfucker's need to 399 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: be worried about is it's just simply not a thing. 400 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: So the fact that they're successfully like roping in a 401 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: lot of people to think of. I mean, like, look, 402 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: if you want to be like, which Democratic politician was 403 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: running about critical race theory? Any well, they can sweep 404 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: it into the same category as anyone talking about race. 405 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, but so all of them, all of them theoretically. 406 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: But I mean the same way with that, the same 407 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: way that no elected democratic politicians that I could think of, 408 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: besides for like three is out here, like running on 409 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: the platform of defund the police. That's something the activists 410 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: are doing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like 411 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: that's what I mean is like Democrats are framing they're 412 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: framing themselves into a box. Republicans are hammering it in 413 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: and and people are eating it up. But what Democrat, 414 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: even Terry McCullough who lost the election, which Democrats platform 415 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: is we need critical race theory in every school. But 416 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: that's what will be interesting moving forward is how people explain. 417 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: And this is something that think is interesting about. Yeah, 418 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: what debate this force is It may force a debate, 419 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: like it may force Democrats to articulate what they think 420 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: should be taught in schools because those question is getting 421 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: brought up. I've what's already seen, friends, of mine have 422 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: been running for elect at office at the local level, 423 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: who are getting asked who you know, are known to 424 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: be progressives, who are getting asked about people race theory, 425 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: and rather than duct the question, which I honestly think 426 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: it's the better thing to do, um, they're like, Wow, 427 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: this is what I think should be taught in schools, 428 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: and I think this is going to become increasingly common unfortunately. 429 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: But it's like, what like Rhodes Bridges, like the Pentagon, 430 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Can we fucking like the medicare for all? Like can 431 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: we talk about something like let's leave us to the 432 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: Department of Education, let's leave this local school district. But 433 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: no congress people and say House representatives and all are 434 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna get roped into this because you've already seen you 435 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: can't knock results though, because again you know, it's it's 436 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of it's just a matter of 437 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: like priorities. I guess this is what Republicans care about, 438 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: So it really doesn't matter, like, you know, the same 439 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: way that us on the left half stuff that we 440 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: care about. So it doesn't matter whether or not Republicans 441 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: care that we care about those things, because we do. 442 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this situation is. It doesn't matter 443 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: that we want to talk about roads and bridges, because 444 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Republicans want to talk about this. Now, I'm not saying 445 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: that that means that we need to like concentrate our 446 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: ship to them talk about this, but we need to 447 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: know what motivates them and what what is their motivating 448 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: factors because it'll let us be prepared for the different 449 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: things that they're gonna try, you know, in the future 450 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: coming up. But I'm telling you, they have successfully wrapped 451 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: up this critical race theory wokeness thing, and now everything 452 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: is woke. Everything is critical race theory. So it's like 453 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: the next time you watch watch, the next time that 454 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: there's a video of a cop stepping on somebody's fucking 455 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: neck for eight minutes, when you say, oh, that's bad, 456 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be someone who's gonna say, why are you 457 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: being woke? Yeah, that's critical race theory. Yeah, that that's 458 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: that's the that's the project that's at play here, That's 459 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: what they're trying to create, because it's all about projection. 460 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: You know how Republicans always say, oh, you guys always 461 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: say that everything is racist because it shuts down conversation 462 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: it's because they want to have something they can say 463 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: to shut down conversations about race. Ye know what I'm saying. 464 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: So if they can sweep everything up into wokeness in 465 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: critical race theory, you know, and and and because we've 466 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: got so many fucking stupid people around, I just fear 467 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: that it's going to work. How many people have you 468 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: heard use the term woke and cancel culture in relation 469 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: to the Dave Chappelle conversations. You know what I'm saying, 470 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle himself, I'm constructating against wokeness w wloa blah 471 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: blah blah. This is the path that like people are following, 472 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: like like check check this out right, Um, these are 473 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: just like a runoff some of the headlines. Okay, wait 474 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: before we get to that, I would like to so 475 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: I want to go back to my point about Democrats 476 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: having to defend their position on what they think kids 477 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: should be caught in school. I want to read you 478 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: this quote, and I want you to tell me if 479 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: this was said by a Democrat or Republican. We will 480 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: teach all history, the good and the bad. America is 481 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: the greatest country on the planet. We know it. We 482 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: have an amazing history, but we also have some dark 483 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: and imporn chapters. We must teach them all. We can't 484 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: know where we're going unless we know where we come from. 485 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Who said that? I mean it sounded super American, exceptionally 486 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: so I'm good at guess a Republican. But it could 487 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: have been this was. This was a quote from Glenn 488 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: yon Kin's final campaign rally in Loudon County in Virginia. 489 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: The next part of it, but like it does, Okay, 490 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: it does have to American sexual sexualism? Is it in it? 491 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Because he says America's the greatest country on earth? But 492 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: we will teach all history, the good and the bad. 493 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: His next like part, Let me be clear. What we 494 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: want do. What we won't do is teach our children 495 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: to viewer everything through a lens embrace, where we divide 496 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: them into buckets. One groups an oppressor and another groups 497 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: of victims, and we put them against each other and 498 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: we steal their dreams. We will not be a commonwealth 499 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: of dream stealers, will be a commonwealth of dream enablers 500 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: and builders. We know it's not right. We're all created equal, 501 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: and we're trying so hard to live up to those 502 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: immortal words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Who implored 503 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: us to be better than we are, to judge one 504 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: another on what the content of our character, not the 505 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: color of our skin. So let me be clear, on 506 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: day one, we will not have political agenda's in the classroom, 507 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and I will ban critical race theory. I mean, there 508 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: you go. So I'm just saying that it becomes like 509 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: the once you once you seed seed ground to like 510 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: their framing that critical race theory is bad, the vocus 511 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: is bad. This is this is the word salad that 512 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: we get from both sides of the aisle. Probably, I 513 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: just don't think that it's limited to being in the 514 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: realm of politics. And I think culturally, I think that 515 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the way that this is playing out culturally is affecting 516 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: how it's playing out politically, because I just I just 517 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: think that there's there's more people than we're willing to 518 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: admit whose brains are temporarily turned into mashed potatoes and 519 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: they're like waking up in a cold sweat at night, like, 520 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: oh my God, woken us. And I think I think 521 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: your example about Dave Chappelle's perfect for this because ostensibly 522 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: left leaning people um did wait didn't hear what that's 523 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: saying that Anald Trump. It was it was a joke. 524 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: It was a joke. Okay, he said that we should 525 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: give Donald Trump a chance. But so maybe I'm giving 526 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: him too much credit. Ostensibly five years have you heard 527 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle say anything bad about Donald Trump. I'm gonna 528 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: take you back. But I started to say, I'm gonna 529 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: take it back. Cut this from the episode. Just kidding, 530 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: don't really, but like I'm taking it back. I mean, 531 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm honestly asking because like, the 532 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: only conservative figure that I know, specifically Dave Chappelle has 533 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: gone after has been Candice Owens. Now, I wonder what 534 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: it is about Candice Owens takes her different from other 535 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: conservative popular conservative figures that Dave Chappelle felt comfortable going 536 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: after her and not the other one. Could it be 537 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: that she's black and a woman. That's how it feels 538 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: to me. Because Stephen Crowder has chilling Dave probably say 539 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: ship down in a certain way, yeah, Ben Chapelle's chilling 540 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle and said ship Yeah. Nick Quentez is chilling 541 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: with Schlastika is behind him talk about pably. They probably 542 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: say ship, so you know, just just just generally and 543 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: then and then who is the Chappelle on tour with 544 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: or who is he on tour with last week with 545 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan? Who is the king of wokeness? Is the 546 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: worst issue in America right now? If we let cancel 547 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: culture go on, then the lock white men in their houses? 548 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: How's this? So people that are either coated as ostensibly 549 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: left wing because they are black, like Dame Chappelle, or 550 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: people that you know in their media um purport like 551 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: an open mindedness like Joe roganhead Bernie Sanderson's podcast, as 552 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: well as sucking Elon Musk. You know, he's not he's 553 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: not like explicitly partisan. So these people seating the ground. Two, 554 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: the framing that wokeness is bad is a part of 555 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: like that same historical trajectory that we've been on with, 556 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, with like quote unquote like left at least 557 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: nonpartisan figures like going along with the far right framing 558 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: of something to seem like, oh, I'm not one of 559 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: those ridiculous you know, pronouns and bio like bitches like well, 560 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool because like instead of giving a substantive 561 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: argument from why you stand for what you stand for 562 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: if you stand for it, which they don't really check 563 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: out these headlines. But let's get into from the aftermath, right, So, okay, 564 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: New York Post James Carville blames stupid wokeness for DEM's week, 565 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: showing h is a problem and we all know it. 566 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: That's from box Um. Democrats go to war over wokeness. 567 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: That's the hill. And then here's the interesting one. New 568 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: York Times columnists Mareen Dowd warrens wokeness could derail the Democrats. 569 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: That's from Fox News. Now, why is Fox News favorably 570 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: covering Maureen Dowd of the New York Times over the 571 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: top of like why are they why are they joining 572 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: for the topic of wokeness is bad? I'm it indicates yeah, 573 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: they're giving their like we're giving them fodder for further 574 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: accelerating their campaign a white supremacy. Great job, New York Times. 575 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Where Republicans going with all this right that that's I 576 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: guess that's at the end of the day, that's what 577 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,479 Speaker 1: you when we're talking about all this uh critical race 578 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: theory and wilkness, like what is the reason? You know? 579 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: And then what was it before this? They were talking 580 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: about how, oh, we want to cancel Dr SEUs. You'll 581 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: remember that that was like five or six months ago. 582 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: You're the canceling Dr SEUs and Dr Seuss books, and 583 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the end of Western civilization because 584 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't want to have that black face 585 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: picture of the Dr SEUs drew that one time. And anyway, 586 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: I think that the the overall conservative project can be 587 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: summed up in uh somewhere within the essay essay Who's 588 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: Afraid of Critical Race Theory? By Derek A. Bell. Right, So, 589 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: and this is an essay that Derek came about. Who 590 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: do you do you? Uh yeah, Derek School, Yeah, yeah. 591 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: So he wrote this. He wrote this essay ninety four 592 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: called Who's Afraid of Critical Race Theory? And the whole 593 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: thing is a response to a book by a guy 594 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: named Charles Murray, a book that he wrote in ninety 595 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: four called The Bell Curve. So the Bell Curve essentially 596 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: he Charles Murray, who's genesis is racist. He the point 597 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: that he was trying to make in the Bell Curve. 598 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: I have mentioned it a little bit last week, but 599 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: he's trying to make the point that i Q and 600 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: intelligence is something that is based in race, and the 601 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: pigmentation in your skin affects the size of your brain 602 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: and your brain's ability to retain knowledge in YadA, YadA, YadA. 603 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: And it came out ninety four, and it had a 604 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: bunch of people who were praising it, and you had 605 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of people who were condemning it, and anyone 606 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: wonder why. In response to just the Hooplah, Derek Bell 607 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: wrote this article, I'm just gonna read you this past. 608 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: You read them this past. Yeah for it, Okay, sorry 609 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: for the past. Through four months, a great deal of 610 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: attention and energy has been devoted to commending or condemning, 611 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: condemning way SI. For the past three or four months, 612 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: a great deal of attention and energy has been devoted 613 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: due commending and condemning Mr Charles Murray and the late 614 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: doctor Richard Hernstein, authors of the best selling book on 615 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: racial intelligence, The Bell Care. This book suggests great social 616 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: policy significance in the fact that black people score on 617 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: average fifteen points below whites on i Q tests. This 618 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: thesis has been criticized as the rehashing of views long 619 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: ago are rejected by virtually all virtually all experts in 620 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: the field there is critics maintain no basis for a 621 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: finding that intelligence is inherited, and indeed no accepted definition 622 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: of the term intelligence. There is, on the other hand, 623 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: of depressingly strong and invariant correlation between resources and race 624 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: in this country and resources and success, including success on 625 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: taking i Q tests. These are settled facts. Even so, 626 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: the book has enjoyed an enormous success that its critics 627 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: find difficult to explain. Stephen J. Gould, for example, rights 628 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: the Bell Curve, with its claims and supposed documentation that 629 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: race and class differences are largely caused by genetic factors 630 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: and are therefore essentially immutable, contains no new arguments and 631 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: presents no compelling data to support its anachronistic social Darwinism. 632 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: So I can only conclude a success and winning attention. 633 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: It must reflect the depressing temper of our time, a 634 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: historic moment of impressed, unprecedented, ungenerous, unprecedented un generosity. When 635 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: a mood for slash and social program can be powerfully 636 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped owing 637 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: two inboard cognitive limots expressed as low i Q scores, 638 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: and I feel that in that you have the whole 639 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: game right there? Who who? Okay? So you know, and 640 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: again I just got to bring it back to the 641 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: cultural aspect of it. We all know how I mentally 642 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: I don't think any of this ship is a coincidence. 643 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: We know how mentally popular figures like Joe Rogan are right, Okay, 644 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: what is something Joe Rogan spent two or three years 645 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: in the last five years with like the main theme 646 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: of his show, the main topic, the main the main 647 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: like subject of intellectual curiosity that Joe Rogan wanted to 648 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: talk about between the years sen and on his show 649 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: is Charles Murray's Bell curve theory. Real talk, Real talk, Dad, 650 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: I know all that them dead asked. That is like, 651 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: like Joe Rogan, in the past like five years, Joe 652 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: Rogan has had like seventeen guests to talk specifically about this, 653 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: framing it all in the manner of the only reason 654 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: that people don't want us to talk about this, or 655 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: the only reason that people are saying that this is 656 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: racist is because they're woke. Because it's cancel culture. It's 657 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: woke cancel culture. If it wasn't for woke PC politically 658 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: correct cancel culture, then you guys wouldn't be afraid to 659 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: talk about how the negro skull is, you know what 660 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like like this this, this is like 661 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: they're his main thing, right. It's like I think that 662 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: the reason that they're going off about this wokenus and 663 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: this critical race theory ship the reason why I'm watching 664 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: a fucking Marvel movie. And there's a scene in the 665 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: Marvel movie where a black character gets stopped by a cop, 666 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: and then the internet blows up with these talking trolls 667 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: and goblins talking about why is it so woke? What 668 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: you have a scene where a black guy got stopped 669 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: by a cop, or even having black people or Asian 670 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: people or like Hispanic people in film. Yeah, like adversity 671 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: of casting is like woke. I've been I've been seeing 672 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: all these I've been seeing all of these commercials with 673 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: these interracial relationships. Y'are doing a good job. I see 674 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: that ship. But that's what they're considering woke. Like, so 675 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: so while you have like you've got like you know, 676 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: like the point that you're making with the Democratic politicians 677 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: who kind of want to use this and adopt the 678 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: language too, they're using it to wrap things up in 679 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: their language. Of what they deemed to be progressive politics. 680 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: All right, So when James Carville says the Democrats have 681 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: a wokenness issue, he's talking about Medicare for all, and 682 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: that's what he's sweeping into wokenus because he thinks he's slick. 683 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: When the Republicans are talking about woken us and ship 684 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: like that, they're essentially talking about anything having to do 685 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: with black people. But the funny thing to me, the 686 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: funny thing to me is that a lot of what 687 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: they're talking about, it's like diversity initiatives and big corporations 688 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: and like statements they issue about how they stand with 689 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: Black Lives matter, which themselves are bullshit. They don't do anything. Um, 690 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: they are cover for actually white supremacist structures which they 691 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: don't actually want to challenge. But that's but that's woke, 692 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: and some people are becoming embarrassed to even engage and 693 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: what is otherwise already performative allyship quote unquote, But I mean, 694 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: but this is like, uh, that's what I think. Is 695 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: is something important for people on the left to pay 696 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: attention to, though, because like this, like this has been 697 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: a long ongoing project, Like conservatives have a vested interest 698 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: in separating black people from their allies, whether those allies 699 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: be through authentic, genuine allies, whether those allies be potential allies, 700 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: or even if it's superficial performative ally ship there's conservatives 701 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: have a vested interest in making sure that nobody on 702 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: the left trust each other and that we're in fighting 703 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: and fighting each other. That YadA YadA, YadA YadA, all 704 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: that separation is going. Yeah, And I want to highlight 705 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: again this final line in the Derek A. Bell quote. 706 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: When a mood for slashing social programs can be powerfully 707 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped is 708 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: what they are trying to seed. The continuation of it 709 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: is directly correlated to data and historical understanding about UM 710 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: racism as it has been perpetuated and perpetrated in this country. UM. 711 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Ignoring that as an argument for slashing social programs like 712 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: medicare like snap or TIM like education that won't get 713 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: into shortly about you know how this has been addressed 714 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: in hip hop like that is what they want. That 715 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: is the status quo that they're trying to maintain by 716 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: not teaching people about racist because you don't if you 717 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know about the history of racism, then why why 718 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: do we need social programs for uplift for people that 719 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: have been historically discriminated against? What historical discrimination? It's fine, 720 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: it's the cliche of anything you know, like you, if 721 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 1: you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it. There's 722 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: a reason why they're telling teachers to teach two sides 723 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: of the Holocaust. I there's a there's a reason why 724 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: they want to ban fucking Tony Morrison books. You know 725 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. You know that they're the the you know, 726 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: the Texas the Texas Republicans. They have a list of 727 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty books that they're combing through. The 728 00:44:52,960 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: band stuff that's like innocent stuff, and they can't even 729 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: describe to you what the thing that they have a 730 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: problem is. So before we get into the music discussion, 731 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give a little bit of advice to anybody, 732 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: any of my UH debaters out there. If you ever 733 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: find yourself in any sort of position where you have 734 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: to talk about this, I would suggest that you don't yet, 735 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: because the Republicans are not coming at it from any 736 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: sort of genuine place. But if you must, I would 737 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: say that you simply just ask them to define what 738 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: woke is when they're talking about it. You know what 739 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just ask them what is woke? And then 740 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: if they don't want to answer that, give them some 741 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: examples and tell them to tell you whether or not 742 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: that's woke or not, because, like, just like straight up, 743 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: since everybody wants to mention them, is Martin Luther King woke? Uh? 744 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: If if Martin was stofice hearing that question, I'm asking 745 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: by their definition, like the people who are you using 746 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King's name essentially to like speak out against 747 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: the vague concept of wokenus. So I would ask them 748 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: if Martin Luther King were a twenty year old activists 749 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: right now on TikTok. You know what I'm saying, Like, 750 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: would you call him woke? Honestly? You know what, I 751 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: ain't trying to like be like this. However, probably not. 752 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: We didn't have We didn't There wasn't really integration of 753 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: like the gay liberation movement into what he was doing 754 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: at the time, which I think is a large part 755 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: of what people call woke. It's like, what do you 756 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: mean that there respect someone's pronouns? What do you mean, 757 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: a transgender woman is a woman, like I don't know 758 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: if like you literally picked him okay and dropped him 759 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: into I don't know if you'd be on the ship. 760 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean maybe with a couple of months, he'd be like, oh, 761 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: this is a cool thing that we should for it. Yeah, 762 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: like that, But I don't think that it's I don't 763 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: think you will consider him. I think I think the 764 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: racial aspect of wokeness is way way stronger and more 765 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: attributed with with it than the I think he would 766 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: ask me similarly, disagree that diversity statements and um, like 767 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, pr campaigns about how we stand with black 768 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: lives from Amazon or whoever would be like authentically anti racist, 769 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: and so in that way, he probably would not be 770 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: seen as woke. But I it's also the most ridiculous 771 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: conversation for I know, I mean, I think it's an 772 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: important conversation. You gotta understand, right, Like, we live in 773 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: a world where there's like an actual like debate right 774 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: now amongst millions of people as to whether or not 775 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: the next Matrix movie will be good because the trailer 776 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: makes it look woke. You feel me like there's motherfucker's 777 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: like really talking like, man, did you see that there's 778 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: like a main character that's Asian and the matrix is 779 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: the is the matrix woke? Now you feel like how 780 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: like like how insidious that that that's used? It's like 781 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: literally anything you know, like when you when you have 782 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: conversations with a political people and like you talk about 783 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: anything even remotely serious and like what do you always 784 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: got to talk about politics? Man? You know, if anybody 785 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: said that to me, I know that's what I'm about that. 786 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: I well, unfortunately the people feel that way and see 787 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: me coming there like, oh, I gotta go, I gotta 788 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: go real quick, y'all. But I mean, essentially that's what 789 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: it is, right. I just I just foresee I foresee 790 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: like a short amount of time coming up. I don't 791 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: think it would it will take that long to radicalize 792 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: people like this, but I can foresee a future where, oh, 793 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 1: there's a story that came out where such and such 794 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: was the cues they're sexually harassing this many women. The 795 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: only reason you guys have problems with that is because 796 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: you're woke. PC. Oh this story came out where we 797 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: just so the cops shoot a black kid while paling Hitler. 798 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,479 Speaker 1: The only reason you guys care about that is because 799 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 1: you're woke. You're woke PC critical race theory, will caps culture. Ye. Hey, 800 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: I think that we should pass this social program because 801 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: this marginalized group is in YadA YadA position. The only 802 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: reason you want to help those people because you're woke. 803 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: PC cup lipt heard cancel culture. You know. It's it's 804 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: like it's it's not a good spot to be in. 805 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: And I mean to your point, maybe because they successfully 806 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: have been able to convince black people that when they're 807 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: talking about wokenness, that they're talking about annoying internet people 808 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: with blue hair. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But 809 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: in actuality, what they're talking about is, hey man, whenever 810 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: these fucking niggers say that they should have uh their 811 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: job opportunities, tell them to stop being woke. Right, That's 812 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: that's what they talk about. They don't want to RG 813 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: in schools. They mean, they don't want black teachers, no 814 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: one about history. They don't want black children. But they 815 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: can't say that anymore. They're they're not they're not even 816 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: hiding it though, yo, Like I mean, I saw a 817 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: report that Vice did not too long ago, where they 818 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: were interviewing one of those critical race theory crusaders and 819 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I mean, this guy is sitting 820 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: on knowing what like five cameras on them, unboxed, openly 821 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: talking about like yeah, well, you know when I say 822 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: critical race theory, what we really mean is multiculturalism. We 823 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: gotta get rid of that. You know what I'm saying. Um, 824 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: anything that's talking about equity, Um, we need to get 825 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: that out of out of the vernacular and involved blah. 826 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: Anything that talks about social responsibility, we need to take that. 827 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: Like I mean, they're saying it open in those terms. 828 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: So I just I just I'm you know, like I said, 829 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: when I see otherwise cool people, or not even otherwise 830 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: cool people, when I see people that, like I used 831 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: to I think we're cool, like you know, the the 832 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle's and the Bill Maher's of the world and 833 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,439 Speaker 1: ship like that, and the Glenn Greenwalts. You know, it's 834 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm knowing. You know, I'm not the smartest 835 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: cat in the world, but it's like, I'm sure that 836 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: I could come up with a comprehensive lists of problems 837 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: that the country that black people, that the left, I 838 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: could come up with a list of problems that we 839 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: got in whether or not people care too much about 840 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: marginalized groups. That's like the problem because that's what woken said, 841 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like in a nutshell, that's 842 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: what it is like when when a politics when a 843 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: politician or political operative says you should stop being woke. 844 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: Democrats should stop being woke. That's what they mean. It's like, hey, 845 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: you guys, the next George Floyd, how about you guys 846 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: just like you know, be chill, be chill about it, 847 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: feel about it, don't don't talk about it too much 848 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 1: because that's critical race theory, cancel culture woke Liptard. Yeah, 849 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 1: so we gotta be careful you. But don't don't listen 850 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: to these funny style niggas man these these days Chappelle Diggs, 851 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, like like like your wokeness is not on 852 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: your top two hundreds of things that you should be 853 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: worried about, and these niggas telling you that it's cat, 854 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: It's carry up, it's cat. Before we transition into the 855 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: music section, two things I would like to say. First 856 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: of all, when Martin Luther King Jr. Was assassinated on 857 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 1: the April four, he was in the midst of uniting 858 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: the white and black working classes to rise up to 859 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: demand a federal job guarantee, which today is now being 860 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, carried forth by folks like Brine Sanders. Hence 861 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: democratic socialism of Martin Luther King something people talk about. 862 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 1: And so I bring this up because what this really is, 863 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: what this whole CRT thing is about. I mean, as 864 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: much you nailed it, but what underneath it is a 865 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: desire to divide the black and white working classes so 866 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: they fight each other instead of fighting capitalism. So figuring 867 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 1: out some kind of wedge of trying to tell white 868 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: people that teachers are trying to make their kids feel 869 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: bad stokes racial animosity, so they don't feel that empathy 870 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: that they feel when they watch George Floyd get his 871 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: neat his neck knelt on for eight minutes. You know, 872 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: that feeling you feel. They're trying to like pull them 873 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: back from that, like no, no, no, no no, I empathize 874 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: to those people, fear them. And this is why and 875 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: how um the other thing I wanted to touch upon 876 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: I forgot. So let's get into the netubes. I'm sorry, 877 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: I talked too much. No, I talked too much. I 878 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: can I Yeah, and I've had some drink. All right, 879 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the music discussion right after the job. 880 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: I we back, were back, and you know, I sat 881 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: out today to find some examples of um music that 882 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: touches upon the content of what they are really teaching 883 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: people in school in the in in how it has been, 884 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: how it does manifest and hip hop music. But interestingly, 885 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: more often than not, what you will actually find in 886 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: terms of commentary about our education system is that folks 887 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: aren't engaging with it at all, for reasons I will discuss. 888 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: There is one example what that I thought was interesting 889 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: in Let's see what was it? So in Remi's education 890 00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: featuring resident children in the world pointing on much I 891 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 1: don't want to Riza so like this is like him 892 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: talking to his teacher about how they don't teach the 893 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: true history. They tell us about Columbus, but they don't 894 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: tell us about how slaves built America, talk about, oh, 895 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: the Dark Age has happened. They don't explain why we 896 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: don't know a lot about it, and they certainly don't 897 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: talk about how these things correlate with the conditions we 898 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: are seeing today the average college kids stuck with all wages, 899 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,839 Speaker 1: hence students walking around with twelve cages. So I really 900 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: touching upon the inadjeclacy of the content that is being taught, 901 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: like actually being taught in schools at least at this time. Well, 902 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like and this is just 903 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: the this is like the reactions to stuff that's omitted, 904 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: like the stuff that's not taught, you know what I mean, Like, 905 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: imagine what we're looking at when literal disinformation is being taught. Right, 906 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: So they're trying to say, oh, crt sus, No, they 907 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: literally are teaching us black history. Actually, if they did, 908 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: then like it's like almost like a defensive like a 909 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: like a like a no, it's like an offensive they're 910 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: teaching like the actual full history of the country itself. 911 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't learn about June Team until I was an adult. 912 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: I didn't learn about Unto until I was adult. Like 913 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: when I'm straight up, I did not know, oh the 914 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: slaves or free Lincoln was such a great person like 915 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: all that. I did not learn like so much about 916 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: the history of our country until I just sawed it 917 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: out myself as an adult. And roslet's call this out 918 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: like you did. What they are to us to said, 919 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: oh fortunity do Columbus south the ocean blue, and then 920 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: everything was fucking lit for the Indians until suddenly they're 921 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: all dead. I don't know how that happened, et cetera, 922 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: especially not teaching us how this is now linked with 923 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: the condition to that we are living to today. But 924 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: otherwise in music, they pretty much just talked and they 925 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: like talk about how fucking school was boring, which but 926 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: particularly I just found a lot of references to the 927 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: link between like disaffection with schooling and incarceration, which gets 928 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: back to what I was saying a little bit earlier, 929 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: is that how another thing this whole debate is trying 930 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: to distract from is like we don't distruct them, but 931 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, srually is bad. Oh one of cheading 932 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: in schools is bad as like a front for defunding education. Yeah, 933 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: because that's how they then create the conditions in the 934 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: community where they have enough crime that they can make 935 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: excuses for incarcerating scores and scores of African Americans. I mean, 936 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: I think that like the things that we the things 937 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: that we come across and read in in things that 938 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: inform us when we're like in that school age. I 939 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: just think it's like way too important to be fucking 940 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: around which ship like this, ye know? And I just 941 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: think of like certain things that I was exposed to 942 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: just about like world history or World War two or 943 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: the Space program, just learning ship shape, you know, that 944 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: shaped me into the person that I am today, with 945 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: the worldview that I have. And it's like when I 946 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: think back of like, man, what if somebody had denied 947 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: me that, What if I hadn't gotten to read that 948 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: or see that when I was that age? Like what 949 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: type of person would that have turned me into? And 950 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: that makes me like, yeah, it makes me shudder to 951 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: think that. It's like, in fifteen years we could have 952 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: a whole legion of kids that are grown up pretty 953 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: much thinking that that young can blurb that you read earlier, 954 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that that's the sort 955 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: of ship that Again, it's like long term projects because 956 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: Republicans are always trying to win, like actually win, so 957 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: on a long term project, Yeah, that ship fox up 958 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: progress more than anything. And it's like they found that 959 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: racket and it seems like they've got some momentum behind it. 960 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: What other songs we've got so in the songs where 961 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: they kind of talk about education. Largely, what I found 962 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: is people talking about it's just general inadequacy, a lot 963 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: of a lot to do with just the disciplinary nature 964 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: of the education system. Let's look at for example, education 965 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 1: by Freddie gibbson Mad Live off of Freddie Gibbs and 966 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: Mad Libs two thousand nineteen album Bandana Songs featuring Yasine 967 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: Bay and a Black Thought fucking Killer Collapse Goddamn like 968 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: the Gil Mobile crowd at the empty do School Seated 969 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: Devil twitching is it's from the strange Um. In the 970 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: first verse, Yasine Bay talking about they go in one way, 971 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: they come out crazy peace preparatory school and like you know, 972 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: and talking about he goes on to talk about imperialism, 973 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: emperors and conquerors, pharaohs, comparing them arguably to goblins and 974 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: monsters um. And then in the later verse, oh, kids 975 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: graduating from public schools and prisoners um, underprivileged Aboriginal indigenous 976 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: talking about like the shared struggle of all people's of 977 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: color to gain representation in our curricula. And since you 978 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,959 Speaker 1: don't see yourself reflected in that curricula, you're like, fucking 979 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: why should I go to school. And then there's there's 980 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the lyrics about like you know, I was feeling disaffected, 981 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: not giving a shit about this off those obedience because 982 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: like why you know, why, like why play this game? UM? 983 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: A lot of songs. I think this one included for 984 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: particularly the next one we're gonna talk about um and 985 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: then yeah and then and then education by remedies as well. 986 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: How about education that people are instead gaining in the streets. 987 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: And I bring this up because I do think we 988 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: learn a lot from like our lived experience is a 989 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: is a form of education where experts and a lot 990 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: of things because the things that we've lived through. And 991 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: there is a um increasingly popular strand of like pedagogical 992 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: theory of just like you know, education theory that says, 993 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even like it came out in 994 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: the nineties with like loroyal ads and billings, but like 995 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: a lot of folks that you do, like I teach 996 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to my students, like you know, I teach elementary school 997 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: students and landteacher, or I teach elementary school teachers. I 998 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: teaches all the times thing called culturally relevant pedagogy, where 999 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: you try to find like to bring people's cultures into 1000 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the classroom to make their educational experience more relevant to them, 1001 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: because you're harnessing the knowledge that they already have two 1002 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: um accommodate them to recognize what they already know, to 1003 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: show that it is valuable, and thereby making you know, 1004 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: learning abc s and motigication tables more attractive. UM. But 1005 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: what's interesting, and I think contributes his conversation, is that 1006 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: I teach the ship to my elementary school teachers, and 1007 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I learned it a lot myself, you know, in school. 1008 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: But this isn't really making it into public schools because 1009 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: they are so rigid in the same ways that pushed 1010 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: people out, because there's so many regulations. It's so much 1011 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: like so many restrictions around what you're actually allowed to 1012 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: do in your own classroom, where we don't very often 1013 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: bring the experiences of black children, Inrodigenous children or whoever 1014 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,439 Speaker 1: into the classroom to see so that they can see 1015 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: it validated and feel more affirmed by schooling. So it's 1016 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: like I said, I was to say, the way we 1017 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: teach already is inadequate. It's clearly alienating children. They don't 1018 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: see themselves reflected in the classroom. They don't give a ship, 1019 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: they get pushed out, they end up in jail. Um 1020 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and partially because schools are underfunded and schools are like 1021 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: seen as like pretty much this preparation for president anyways, um, 1022 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: which like with the CRT, shir CRT, just gives Republicans 1023 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: called for, like I was said earlier, to this defund 1024 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: education further. And in Georgia they did de funded education 1025 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: by a billion dollars back in two thousands and maybe 1026 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty billion dollars. But if they're teaching kids, well 1027 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,959 Speaker 1: they honestly ought to be teaching kids. Um, well, while 1028 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: we cut their funding, we're not paying for that ship. 1029 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: We're not paying for kids to see themselves reflected in 1030 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: their curriculum, which they aren't, but let's assume they aren't. 1031 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: And I think I think these lyrics that kind of 1032 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: get into that a little bit. For the next one, though, 1033 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: we got the homely propaganda. The home Propaganda Propa came 1034 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: on the show to talk about how police are like 1035 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 1: gangs back in the day. He's got the song Board 1036 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: of Education b O r E D of Education. Let's 1037 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: listen to it real quick. You're just testing my ability 1038 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: to regurgitate, and if your best instructors are miserable. I'm 1039 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's not the kids vault. So in this 1040 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: he speaks somewhat to like the regimentation of the schooling 1041 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: that we currently receive. We sit in rows and listen 1042 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to pontifications, passing written exams, Board of Education. All I've 1043 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: learned from your system is the fact that it's just 1044 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: a system, um testing my ability to regurgitake just speaking 1045 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: to like how disciplinarian schooling currently is, and like I 1046 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 1: can't overstate it. It really is just getting kids ready 1047 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: for prison. Of like someone's gonna tell you what to 1048 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: do all day and if you act up a little bit, 1049 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna throw you in the hole. Um and pine 1050 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: the prison pipeline. There's no room for free thought, no 1051 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: room for critical thinking, no room for challenging authority. I 1052 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: think it's a meme at this point, but like they're 1053 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: never gonna give you the tools you need to overthrow them. 1054 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: They don't want you to really do critically about ship um. 1055 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Even if they do, they sit mixed messages by at 1056 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: one time inspiring critical thing thinking but then didn't YouTube 1057 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: the Principle's office of your mouth off too much, And 1058 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: I think he speaks to that here just like man, 1059 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: y'all get us lined up next to our lockers to 1060 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: march the lunch room to eat our dry baloney sandwiches, 1061 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: and like got to raise your hand if you're ready 1062 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: to talk, and if you don't talk enough, you can 1063 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: f So all these ways we're already alien. Were like 1064 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: alien the kids that are like they're not even absorbing 1065 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: the content because they don't give a funk because you're 1066 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: telling them what to do all the time, just producing lemmings, yeah, 1067 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: and then driving them off the cliff on purpose. So 1068 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: if you're wondering, like, oh, what areur kids actually learning 1069 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: in school, they're not a whole lot of a whole 1070 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of nothing, because we fucking like are just squeezing 1071 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: the life out of them and like not at all 1072 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: allowing any opportunity for them to see themselves reflected in 1073 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the curricula, which is what like what your Republicans are 1074 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: afraid of, Like, oh, a black child, these like there 1075 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: are people like in the textbook God Forbid, which isn't happening, 1076 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: but they're imagining that it is. They're not learning about civics, 1077 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: they're not learning like the full story of the civil 1078 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: rights movement. They're not learning about sucking how the government works. 1079 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Ship's grim, but you know what's great rapping as always? 1080 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Can you drop a funky fresh flag beat for us? Is? 1081 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, bam yeah, and I'm hoping it's in 1082 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 1: poor taste. I need the weed like broken neath the 1083 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: horse paste. I keep the seeds just like it was 1084 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: my foretaste. I'm about to smash on this beach. This 1085 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: was four play twelve trying to put me in the chokehold. 1086 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: I think I really need to give a damn about 1087 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: a walk school. No, because militia men take it arms 1088 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 1: trying to bomb niggas while comedians where we're about who 1089 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: canceled on Twitter? Yo, that ship is captain, you can 1090 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: think it's dope. Put that ship is wack. I can 1091 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: make a list of bigger issues if I think of that. 1092 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: And leftist drifters who do it for the next check. 1093 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Talking about wokeness is sounding like the s S and 1094 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean all of them. Bill Margaret Walden of waiting 1095 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: at the phone when all right be calling them they collaborators, 1096 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: They just agitators. I'm just trying to style hard and 1097 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 1: just wrap the greatest to me to leave rehearsal arguments 1098 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 1: for redistributing resources to the hardest hit and whether I 1099 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,439 Speaker 1: just said can don the world of all the folks 1100 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: in charge of it, or if it's arduous as means 1101 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: we are to quit what can be accomplished by the 1102 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: state mounted on the bone to the indigenous the sorrows 1103 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: of the slaves are worth a two engates or something 1104 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: we can change is the change we get enough to 1105 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: justify playing the game? Super valid questions one that I'm 1106 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: myself expressed with, even though I'm on the inside and 1107 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 1: arguably to blame as long as there's a government then 1108 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: getting it to nudget. But it's better than nothing, and 1109 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying the best to play a dope knife Frank 1110 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: And you have been listening to Waiting on Reparations at 1111 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: production of our Heart Radio and you know what we'll 1112 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: see the funk next. Sweet give us a like, subscribe 1113 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: stars all that peace. Peace. Waiting on Reparations is a 1114 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio. 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