1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Well, today it's a good day because I am back 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: with my friends Maurice Jones, Drew and DeMarco. Far Good afternoon, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: good evening, whenever you might be watching this, I'm JB. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Long and this is a new season of Between the Horns, 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. As you know, 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: a pair of division champs, the Texans and the Rams 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: to kick things off in week one. But first, it's 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: great to see you guys, our tenth year together. DeMarco 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: predates us with his Rams tenure. He's bringing that up, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: your statesman. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: That walking in the morning haircut. I cut the gray 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: out with me. Listen, come on, you want to know 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: what something funny you talk about? Gray hair? It's starting 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: to It's starting to come to me too. I feel terrible. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go baby face. 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: Soon, Jamie, A fresh cut through and some oh yeah, 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: I gotta hey, Rams kicks raid to roll nice, you know, 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: nice nice, ready to get get to step in. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Here we go. 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it, you know you and I I 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: just haven't really sat down and talked Rams in a while. 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: So when I thought about an agenda for this show, 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it pretty open ended because we've 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: been pulled in so many different directions. Good directions is 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: preseason that since the roster was formulated. I just haven't 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: heard from mjd in to Marco about what you think. 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: What's what's got you excited about this season? What's got 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: you concerned? Losing sleep? 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: Where are we? Well? 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: I'm excited because I mean the team. I like the 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: way it's built. But like I said, when you roll 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: out of bed knowing that you have a quarterback, that 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: spot is filled with a quality athlete. 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: I feel comfortable. 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: But the more I think about it, the more I 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: extrapolate out it's not the Johnny's and the Joe's on 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: the field, it's actually Sean McVay that makes me feel 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: so comfortable and calm. So this is another season for him. 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: It's another season with a top flight quarterback. With Matthew Stafford, 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: you've got a good young defense. So the way you 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: ended the season in Philadelphia, like you said, thirteen yards 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: short from shock in the world. So it was a 43 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: great a great cliffhanger. I can't wait to see how 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: they followed up this Sunday and so far. Yeah, I 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: gotta be where my feed are right. I got to 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: think of right now because it you kind of text 47 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: that question. I started thinking like December November, like what 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: are we gonna look like then? 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: Type of thing. 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: But I'm super excited about what the Rams have done 51 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: throughout the off season, that the health of Matthew Stafford, 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: getting DeVante Adams. Not really worried about the kicking game, 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: special teams looking really well throughout preseason. Defensively, seeing though 54 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: the d linemen and that whole defense come together and 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: what they did, how they grew Lasher and what they 56 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: can become now and the new additions and in that part. 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: So to me, the biggest thing that I've my only 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: concern is health. 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: Right. It's like, you have all the pieces to do 60 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: what you need to do. 61 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: Yes, those guys have to play, but if you win 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: the injury report every week with which we know that's 63 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Sean's thing, win the injury report, you have a great 64 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: chance of winning every game. 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: And so. 66 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: The health and then the travel gets me too. It's 67 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: a lot of traveling. You know we're gonna We're gonna 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: do a little bit of traveling this year. 69 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Second most in terms of miles in the league, and 70 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: the Chargers who are in Brazil right. 71 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: And that it starts to take a toll as you 72 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: have older guys, it takes a toll on you as well, 73 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: on the flights and different things like that. I know 74 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: the RAMS do a great job of you know, sleep 75 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: and all the other things, which is awesome, but it's 76 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: gonna be important for guys to take care of themselves 77 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: and guys to perform when it's time to perform. 78 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: A few things on the health front. They're gonna win 79 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: this week's injury report, which is great. Can't can't do 80 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: any better than the starting line. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. 81 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Stafford and where you 82 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: are with his back in a second. But one of 83 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: the refrains i've heard several times from Sean McVay this 84 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: offseason is that the lessons of the last couple of 85 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: years have informed his thinking. Where you know, he's always said, 86 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: adversity is gonna hit, it's how you handle it. But 87 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: right now, more than ever, it feels like their ability 88 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to withstand that adversity has become one of their attributes, 89 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: one of their superpowers, one of their competitive advantages. He's 90 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: now bracing for we know what's going to happen. We 91 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: don't know when, but now we know with this group 92 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: how we're going to respond, and I like that. Let's 93 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: hope that they don't have to withstand as much as 94 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: they have had to in previous years, especially not as early. 95 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: But when you go up against this defense, and we'll 96 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: talk plenty of about Houston, where are you with respect 97 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: to Matthew Stafford his back, he's talking a good game, 98 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: saying he's gonna play the way he's always played. 99 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, to me, you have to, right, you have 100 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: to go out there and be you. You can't be 101 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: anyone else. You can't go out there and shy away 102 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: from throwing the ball guys around. You have to play 103 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: your game because that's why you're Matthew Stafford. I do 104 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: think if you're Sean McVay, you're going to max protect 105 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: a little bit more. Right, We're not gonna have tight 106 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: ends blocking these defensive ends like we did against Chicago 107 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: last year. That we're not doing that right. We're gonna 108 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: make sure we have lineman on lineman and then back 109 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: chip help, tight end chip help, and then try to 110 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: get our guys open in space. Understanding that if you 111 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: can can. If you can handle those two d ns, 112 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: you have a great opportunity to really to have. 113 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Some ops downfield with your receivers. 114 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Now they do have a great corner and Derek extingly, 115 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: but I still think that you have the advantage of 116 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: that secondary. So my biggest thing if i'm it's not 117 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: it's not necessarily about Matthew Stafford. I need you to 118 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: be Matthew Stafford and play like him as the play caller, though, 119 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: I have to make sure that I'm calling the plays necessary. 120 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 3: When we do want to take shots, there's seven guys 121 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: blocking and two guys are on those d ns. For 122 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: the most part, we got four guys on two guys 123 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: and make sure that we can protect our quarterbacks. 124 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Just having a guy who can win against any coverage 125 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: help in that philosophy. Like if you need to release 126 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: fewer into the pattern, oh for sure one of them 127 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: is DeVante. You're saying we'll take our chances. 128 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, oh yes, absolutely, yes, no doubt. Quarterbacks 129 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: can escape with their legs and escape through that guy 130 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: if he's always won and I know I can get 131 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: the ball out to him just to save me from 132 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: getting a hit, even if it's incomplete. It's in the area. 133 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: If I put it on him or near him, there's 134 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: a good chance he gets it. That's gonna help Matthew Stafford. 135 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: That's gonna help any offense. DeVante Adams being on the 136 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 4: football field will draw eyes and it will help you 137 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: big time. But I am so with you. Matthew Stafford 138 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: has to be Matthew Stafford. But for this week, even 139 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: with those defensive ends. And I was telling JB earlier, 140 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: I'm glad you're getting the Texans here and not there 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: because they don't have the benefit of crowd noise. And 142 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: I would absolutely try to bully them. They're fast, but 143 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: they're not very big. So another way to protect the 144 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: quarterback is to run the football, no question, be physical, 145 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: come off the rock. I would make them. I would 146 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: take them all the way back to week one training camp. 147 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: You're going to be hitting, blocking, sleds for the first quarter, absolutely, 148 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: and then if you get through that, let me see 149 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: if you can earn the right to get to Matthew 150 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: Stafford if you've got anything left. So I would definitely 151 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: slam my bigger line at your smaller D line and 152 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: try to stay out of those third and third and whatevers. 153 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: So first and ten the Rams are paying running backs again, 154 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: which is awesome. There's continuity there, so beautiful thing. I 155 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: would definitely try to slam the football at the Texans 156 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: and see if they can stop it. 157 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: You won't hold your breath the first time he gets hit, 158 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: though in a different way. 159 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: Than I've been doing that since he got here, especially 160 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: after the Super Bowl. Whenever Matthew Stafford takes one and 161 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: he's so confident and he will stand down the barrel 162 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: of a of a rush to deliver a football and 163 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: take a pop. Every time he gets hit, I wonder, 164 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: is this going to be the one? That's what happens 165 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: when you have a quarterback that's thirty seven years old. 166 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: But for the most part, the guy gets up and 167 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: he dusts himself off and plays the next nap. 168 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: But it's not the. 169 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Doubt about him dusting himself off, it's just that can 170 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: he be the Matthew Stafford that differentiates him from other quarterbacks, 171 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: which is hanging on to the bitter end, reading that 172 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: thing all the way through and beyond completion and still 173 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: being able to get a shot off, and especially with 174 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: I think Maurice always wants like more keeper game more 175 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen eighteen offense. If he's feeling good and comfortable 176 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: and he can do that and flip his hips and 177 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: boot and waggle, great if they shy away from that, 178 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: is he the quarterback that we've come to know him? 179 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Love? 180 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: You mean boots right? You don't mean running him on 181 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: the option keeper game? No? 182 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: No? 183 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: No, oh my god, Okay, I'm playing whoa wha no plan. No. 184 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: I will say this. I think two things. 185 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: First thing is because of his injury, I believe and 186 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: I feel in talking to Sean that they're super confident. 187 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: It comes with Jimmy Garoppolo run their offense. Unlet's remember 188 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: going back to last year Week eighteen, they put up 189 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: what twenty some odd points against the Seahawks and their starters, right, 190 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: So you feel comfortable in that aspect. 191 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: He had the single game passing lead. Jimmy g you 192 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: did there you go not saying anyone wants to revisit that. 193 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're comfortable in that situation. The reason I want 194 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: Sean to go back to twenty seventeen and eighteen is 195 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: it was very run heavy and it was very specific 196 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: pass plays that the ball You knew these plays were 197 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: coming right and they couldn't stop it. And so when 198 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: you're an offense that's clicking like that, when you have 199 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: specific plays that you know you can run three or 200 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: four times a game and that they're gonna be completions, 201 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: they're going to be this, then you take a lot 202 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: of the stress off the quarterback and the old line. 203 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: I just remember, was it eighteen where we used to 204 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: used to play fake girly Week and then whip around 205 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: and hit Cooks on the deep end, and it was 206 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: like literally like a handoff, like here, you can take 207 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: this right like every and not only. And so if 208 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 3: you can do that four or five times a game 209 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: with Davante and Matthew Stafford, all of a sudden, it's like, okay, 210 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: I can go down here and protect them, Like get 211 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: my guy in a rhythm, let him get going, let 212 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: him start feeling good. 213 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: And the boots always work as well. 214 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: So again what you said the running running game is 215 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: to me, it's this game is about Sean protecting Matthew, 216 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: not Matthew protecting Matthew wall. 217 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: I think the season could be said too, in terms 218 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: of how efficient and explosive can you be with your 219 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: running game That's a big talking point year over year 220 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: with respect to Kirroen, and I think league wide too. 221 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I think explosive runs have become a key to success again. 222 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: And in this matchup, which offense are you more confident 223 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: in staying on or ahead of schedule with the running game? 224 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe LA's biggest advantage. But zooming out 225 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: ma Reice, where are you with respect to Kiren both 226 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: in terms of ball security and explosive runs this year? 227 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Ball security is one thing you have to work on, 228 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: and I've talked to coach Gould about it and they've 229 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: really harped on it. That they've done it before, but 230 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: this has been a very big emphasis this year, really 231 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: getting him the focus on to keep in the ball 232 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: in the outside hand, making sure he's protecting it because 233 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: I know they believe and I believe that if they 234 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over, they're a tough offense to stop. 235 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: Right explosive runs, I think Kyron, We're not expecting Kyroen 236 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: to break the sixty yarders, but to have twelve yard runs, 237 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: fifteen yard runs, twenty yard runs to a drive. 238 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: That sets up play action pass, It sets up the. 239 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: Screen game that gets your offensive line going, and I 240 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: think he can do that. 241 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: We saw. 242 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: I mean, let's just look at what the Rams in 243 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: the preseason against starters, right with Blake Korum and Cody 244 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: Schrader and Dark Cords Hunter. Explosive run game is what 245 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: you saw. So imagine your starters in there doing that 246 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: against other starters. With your starting running. 247 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Back, I think we should expect explosive runs to be 248 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: a part of this offense. What was your longest rush? 249 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: Eighty eighty? 250 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: Come on, bro, I'm just asking, I mean, what's set 251 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: up that long? I know you're fast, but it was 252 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: what do you mean right when. 253 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: Right before half and then came right out of half 254 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: and when eighty agather went the Tennessee Oh. 255 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: Again, okay, but did you know before that this is 256 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: going to be a long one? No, Like I was. 257 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: I was upset because we went into that, We're going 258 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: into the second quarter. 259 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: In the secon quarter, I had two carries. I think 260 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: it was crazy. Oh different deal. Okay, yeah, let me 261 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: ask you something though. 262 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Obviously that was your unique ability, But I bet if 263 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: we went back and checked the tape, you could point 264 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: to five six guys along the way that that set 265 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: that up for you, right, Yeah. 266 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't just you. No, no, no, no, that's what I mean. 267 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I would suggest that too much of this offseason conversation 268 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: has fallen on Kyron's shoulders to be more explosive as 269 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: opposed to recreating the ecosystem in which you can have 270 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: an explosive running game. So part of that is your 271 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: offensive line having it back and healthy. Part of it 272 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: is the weapons you present to a defense. And I 273 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: would ask DeMarco from your defensive lens when you're breaking 274 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: the huddle this year with Davante and to two and 275 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Puka and Tyler Higbee back and maybe Terrence Ferguson, how 276 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: does that change your math defensively, especially with how you 277 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: can get your box count organize. 278 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to be a step late coming down with 279 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: a safety compared to. 280 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Where you were in the middle and the end of 281 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: this season. I just don't think the Rams were truly 282 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: dictating and threatening to defenses last year with the way they. 283 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: Were going on. 284 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: I feel like this for running backs, and this is 285 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: anybody in the National Football League. If you were my 286 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 4: lead back, if I get you one on one with anybody, 287 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: you should win. 288 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. If I get you into the open field. 289 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: If you get a hat on the hat and I 290 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 4: leave you one guy to beat, you should be able 291 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: to beat that guy. 292 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: And I think that's why I said, like twenty thirty 293 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: forty yard runs are good. When you get to the 294 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: eighty yarders, you have to have that speed to be 295 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: able to pull away. 296 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Right. Our job, your. 297 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: Job offense, is to get you one on one with 298 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: a safety or a corner and you have to make 299 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: a miss. And let's go the way that happens, though, 300 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: and what the Rams have done really well, And on 301 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: the touchdown runs that I had, Tory Holt blocked like 302 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: a linebacker or a d N which is insane for 303 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: him to do it, but he was selfless enough to 304 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: go in and do it on a pitch play and 305 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 3: we're able to make a We're able to make a play. 306 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: And then the other time he blocked two guys on 307 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: a run downfield. And so that's how you have to 308 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: do it. And if you have the speed, you'll get 309 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: those eighty Kyro just doesn't have that speed to do it. 310 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: And that's okay, you don't have to do that. 311 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: I mean, talking to coach Yarbs in Cleveland, he said, 312 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: what we we we be in the rams, we go 313 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: after quickness over speed. Oh yeah, we like quickness right, 314 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: and that getting in out of breaks make guys miss. 315 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: We see Kyroen ducking it out of holes. 316 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: And so to me, if I can get a twelve 317 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: to twenty yard run, that sets up later down the 318 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: road for those along the runs. 319 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I have coach Yarps, quickness is a luxury. Speed. No, 320 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: quickness is a necessity. Speed is a luxury. There is 321 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: right there they were talking about that. 322 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I like what you said about Tori there because even 323 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: though I think this pass catching unit is significantly upgraded 324 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: from where they finished last year, I don't want to 325 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: discount the fact that for the last eight years we 326 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: have been spoiled by one of the smartest and most 327 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: willing blockers at the receiver position in Cooper Cup. And 328 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: we've seen moments and weeks where they have not had 329 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and how that impacts their running game. Now 330 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: it's life. Now, that's just the reality, and I don't 331 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: want to discount what that could mean. 332 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: We haven't talked Jarding Winnington either. 333 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: If that takes a dip because of Davante, I don't 334 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: expect him to be a Cooper cup style blocker. 335 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: No, No, that's not his style. I think he's gonna be 336 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: out there. 337 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: But they have a culture, they have they have other 338 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: options that can do it, yes, and is part of that. 339 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: But Coop was special in that way, no question. 340 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: A guy that can go in and block you, inserting 341 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: the big gap and block a linebacker and then inserting 342 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: the bigapp and running a corner round the house. Yeah, 343 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: like that's just a different type of deal. And again 344 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: all that we say all this is say, if you 345 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: have an explosive running game, what. 346 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: Do you think the passing game is going to look like? 347 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: And open wide up? And that's where I think them 348 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: understood after seeing Saquon Barkley and the Eagles right has 349 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: what for over fifty yard runs against the Rams and 350 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, now here comes a passing 351 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: game coming out because you gotta put more guys in 352 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: the box. 353 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Should we flip sides to the ball there? You can 354 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: take whatever topic you want. Let's keep talking big picture, 355 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: But is there anything defensive that's on your mind. 356 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: From the Rams? Defensively? Come on, man? What come on? Man? 357 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Start it off? Well? Just thinking about the D line? 358 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: Right, Jared Verse and you would think that he led 359 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: this team in sacks and he did not. Braden fisted. 360 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: Actually Byron Young had more sacks than he did. But 361 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: Jared Verse won Rookie of the Year. So this weekend 362 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: versus the Texans, and they're good. And I respect Nick Chubb, 363 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: I do. I'm assuming he's the Nick Chubb that was 364 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: in Cleveland. Until you prove otherwise. 365 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm gonna respect him that way. And 366 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: I think C. J. Stroud is one of the best 367 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: young quarterbacks in the league. 368 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: Their offensive line is in flux, but this game is 369 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: built for Jared Verse to dominate. It's here. You've got 370 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: four new offensive linemen for the Texans. They're kind of 371 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: in flux there, so you should dominate this game. 372 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: From the defensive front. 373 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: I'm expecting Jared Verse to from last season get better 374 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: at not missing sacks. Not only when you do get sacks, 375 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: get the ball out, make game changing plays, change the math. 376 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: So take it up a step from what we saw 377 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: last season, and to bring guys with you. I think 378 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: POONA Ford is going to be a huge upgrade, a 379 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: huge upgrade. 380 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: For this football team. 381 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: He's like the Hoover dam Really he is that stubborn 382 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: and that solid that you can build cities behind him 383 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: and at some point he can straighten out and rush 384 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: the passers. So I think this defensive front has a 385 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: chance to be one of the best in football, and 386 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: you have a chance to prove that this Sunday versus 387 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: the Texans. 388 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: So as I was doing my due diligence on the game, 389 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: I stumbled across to Miko Ryan's press conference where he 390 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: was talking about this game is going to be won 391 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: in the. 392 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Trenches, and he didn't talk about the D line. 393 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: He said, whoever's offensive line holds up the longest, that's 394 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: who's going to win this game. And then they got 395 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: me thinking, like, as I was going more, I was 396 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: on one of these social media and they were showing 397 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: all Jared versus rush plays, right, and I was like, 398 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: I just remember watching. I was like, I just remember 399 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: him bull rushing people. But then when you started to 400 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: really dive in all these lays, he had some stuff 401 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: with some stuff and if he can get better off 402 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: of that, and then you're adding all this other stuff 403 00:16:59,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: on the other. 404 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: Side, here's the crazy thing. Some of his best rushes 405 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: you missed. Yeah, that's the thing. You can't waste those 406 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: You can't waste those rushes. Now turn those in two sacks. 407 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: Every win that you had needs to turn into either 408 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: a pressure or a sack or get. 409 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: The ball out. 410 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I saw him do a push pull dip 411 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: rip like I'm like, I just used to seeing him 412 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: just bull guy's back Like, no, he has. He has 413 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: a repertoire of moves that he can use. Like you said, 414 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: when you use your mood, you gotta go. But the 415 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: other part is this, if you if you know the 416 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: Houston Texans, well, one, they have a double agent. 417 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: We'll get to that later. They have a double agent. 418 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: But you know this offense because it's a it's a 419 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: coach from here that's running it. You know, Demiko's Ryan's 420 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: what they're gonna do. So you have to go out 421 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: there and prepare. If you're the Rams defense saying, okay, 422 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: we know what they're gonna try to attack us with 423 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: because this is what we got in practice every day, 424 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: and you have to assume that that's gonna happen, and 425 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: you have to kind of show up those holes or 426 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: those those weak points you have in your defense. But 427 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: if your defensive line can take care of that offensive line. 428 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they do. 429 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: This is true. Who's secret scrorel? Who's the double agent? 430 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Nick Haley? 431 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? The secret score? Okay, go ahead, Sorry. 432 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: A couple follow ups. Who do you think, when all 433 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: is said and done, leads this team in sex? 434 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: I think Kobe Turner does. Oh, and I'm gonna tell 435 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: you why Oh? 436 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: Is that what you thought? No? 437 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: But it does remind me this is kind of the 438 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: twenty three Rookie of the Year revenge game. Yeah, Pooka 439 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: and Kobe both just missed because of some Houston Texans. 440 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: But anyway, go ahead on the Kobe. I like. 441 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: The reason why I say Kobe is because he's like 442 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: the one that no one's talked about. 443 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's crazy, because I think he's got all pro upside. 444 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: Everyone's talked about Verse and Fisk and how fast Young 445 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: is and Poona Ford and for whatever reason, we just 446 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: haven't talked about the conductor. Right, It's just and that's 447 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: what happens. Right, You had a really good year, but 448 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: there's so many guys like somebody can't. Everybody can't. What's 449 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: the movie with the singers? And then they have the 450 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: least sing and they're beefing all the time. The Temptations, 451 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like they're beefing all the time 452 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: hard everybody. 453 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: What's the guy? Oh can't sing like Eddie K? Yeah, 454 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: and everybody everybody Eddie K. 455 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But those other guys put 456 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: in a lot of work. 457 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 4: You know, I would not be surprised if Kobe Turner 458 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 4: leaves this theme to Sacks. I think, like you said, 459 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 4: he has all pro potential. But I mean we were 460 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 4: talking about this is gonna be an edge heavy team 461 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: and you are set to go. I haven't given up 462 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: on the Velociraptors. I still think they exist and they're 463 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: gonna get better. So it's coming off the edge here 464 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: and they're gonna get more opportunities. 465 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: But you gotta think they're gonna get double teamed right. 466 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: When you go, Oh, trust me played against Dwight Freeney 467 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: and Robert mathis with double team on all day, right, 468 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: Chip help, you're gonna. 469 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Have all given protect somebody. 470 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Somebody get singled up. Okay, you don't think they're gonna 471 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: slide to fist. Of course. 472 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: The one guy's gonna get singled up, I think is 473 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: Kobe Turner, and that's gonna be where he takes advantage. 474 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Of it, and then when he gets going, guess what 475 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: someone else is gonna get singled up? 476 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: What about with respect to the run defense? And I 477 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: want to preface this by saying, big picture, the Rams 478 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: were not good enough against the run last year start 479 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: of the season, especially last game of the season, But 480 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: between the Saquon games they actually were much improved. And 481 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: I hope that's a sign of what's to come, especially 482 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: when you bring in Puna Ford and when you have 483 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: a full year of omar States and Nate Laman is 484 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: named a captain and came in and took the green 485 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: dot the moment he arrived. What is your level of 486 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: optimism that year two under Chrishula leads to a big 487 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: step forward in that regard and you can earn more 488 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: known passing situations for DeMarco's veloci rapis. 489 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: You you beat me to it? Year two of Chrishula, 490 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: He's going to get better as a corter. I thought 491 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: they got better as he got better as. 492 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: The season war on. 493 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: Towards the end of the year, when you had the 494 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: trust and everyone understood what this defense was about, they 495 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 4: turned into one of the best defenses. Had they got 496 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: past Philadelphia. I think they would have been rolling on 497 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 4: that side of the ball, so I think they hit 498 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: the ground rolling, So couldn't they be better stopping the run. 499 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: I think they ranked twenty two, so they're in the 500 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: bottom third of the league. But I think they need 501 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: to get more consistent. Just don't let these quarterbacks jump 502 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: out the window. That kind of change or skew your 503 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: rush defense numbers. Get those guys on the ground, be 504 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: better on third d get off the field when you 505 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: should and not have to defend those twelve to fifteen 506 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: extra rushing plays because you messed up on third down. 507 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: Be more consistent, get off the field your rushing numbers. 508 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, I want to say this too, as a running back. 509 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: Having a running quarterback is like the cheat code. I 510 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: remember playing and David Garar was mobile, but he wasn't 511 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: Vince Young. And I remember when Chris John's arrested for 512 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: two thousands. I was jealous Chris. I was jealous because 513 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: Vince Young had two sets of eyes on him all time. Right, 514 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: And if you remember the last game against Philly, what 515 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: really sparked everything. It was a Jalen Hurts touchdown run 516 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: right for forty yards and now all of a sudden, 517 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: we have to worry about you right now. If you 518 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: don't have a running quarterback, I don't have to worry 519 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: about the quarterback, and I could play regular defense instead 520 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: of playing eleven on eleven football. So that's what makes 521 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: Philadelphia special. I think that's what where the ram struggled 522 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: is when they had those running Kyler Murray. They struggled 523 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: against Kyler because again, you have to have eyes on 524 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: that guy. And so once you figure out how to 525 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: play that type of football, I think the Rams, they've 526 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 3: had a whole year to kind of figure out how 527 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: we're going to play these mobile guys, you'll have a 528 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: better opportunity. But last year it was just I mean, 529 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurds broke that run early in that game in 530 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: the divisional round, and then it was like I heard, 531 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: we got to focus on him, and now everyone's out 532 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: of gaps because you lost the gap to the front side. 533 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: It's a math advantage. 534 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: You have one extra guy you have to account for 535 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: in the run game, which is going to make you 536 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: short somewhere. 537 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: That's the problem with running quarterbacks. 538 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: The only way to recreate that with a quarterback that 539 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: doesn't run is using a lot of twelve two tight ends. 540 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: It keeps the defense off balance, which leads us right 541 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: to back to the offense. With Tyler Higbee and Ferguson 542 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: on the field at the same time, that will create 543 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: the same sort of mathematical problem that a running quarterback 544 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: does because you don't know which way do you call 545 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: strength depending on who's out there right, Plus Puka and 546 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: DeVante Adams are still on the field, it creates a 547 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: lot of indecisions. So that's the way I would recreate that. 548 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: But running quarterbacks, it's all with their nightmare. The problem 549 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: is once you blunt the run attack, sometimes those guys 550 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 4: can't throw in the game is yours? 551 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's the key stop to run, right. 552 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: You know who else plays a role in stopping the 553 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: run though, And I want to bend this back to 554 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: the offense because the way that you can take an 555 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: opponent's running game away is by going up two scores. 556 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: And the Rams just simply did not do that enough 557 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: last season. They didn't start games well, they played a 558 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: lot of close games. They closed out a lot of 559 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: games with their defense. I think I speak for this 560 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: entire footprint, this entire building. It would be nice to 561 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: get back to putting up some points this year to 562 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: not be in the twenties in scoring offense, and I 563 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: think that'll change a lot of your defensive fortunes as well. 564 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. 565 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: It's so funny when you go back to the years 566 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: whe the Rams were scoring thirty thirty five points a 567 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: game that all of a sudden the defense was really good. 568 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, Aaron Donald had twenty. Right, Aaron Donald had 569 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: twenty And that's what happens. Right. 570 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: By the way, do you know who the biggest cap 571 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: hit on this defense is to this day? 572 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald? 573 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it's a young assembly. 574 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah wow. 575 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: But where are the resources on this team? Where does 576 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: this team need to be led from? I think it's 577 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: still an offensive driven team and as efficient as they 578 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: were last year, their next level metrics looked really good. 579 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: They look like a top ten offense. At times, it 580 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: did not translate to points because of turnovers at sometimes 581 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: because they did not finish drives well enough in the 582 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: red zone. That's one for me. I think red zone 583 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: offense is a huge step forward this ya. 584 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: That was solved when they win and Gouty Davonte a. 585 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: I think that's one piece hope so. 586 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: And the reason I'll tell you that is it goes 587 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty one when they went in and 588 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: signed Odell Beckham junior. He goes to Arizona, he's out 589 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: by hisself at a wide receiver. He runs a slant, 590 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: catches touchdown. The next week, fade right is those two 591 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: routes are those are the hardest routes to cover in 592 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: the tight red well. 593 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: Guess what does it all the time? 594 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I just like their options down there better. I don't 595 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: know which one they'll choose. DeVante's clearly the leading one, 596 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: but Puka Nakua I think will finally crack the code. 597 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: Like for all he's done, he's not scored many touchdowns 598 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: for two years. I think they will run in pass 599 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: utilize them in that short red zone area. I think 600 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: Terrence Ferguson by year's end is going to be a 601 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: huge asset down there and finishing drives. And then Kyrin 602 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: Williams is that hammerhead shark that can still get in 603 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: from the five or inside the five. 604 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: I like going up by two scorers with this young 605 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: defensive line. You've if you just take the training wheels 606 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: off and just say light your hair on fire and 607 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: go get them. 608 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: They'll win. Oh yeah, they'll win. Absolutely. 609 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: If there's a scenario Sunday, but where chubbing the offensive 610 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: line are not manufacturing much by way of a running game, 611 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: and you go up ten points or fourteen points, that's 612 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: a game that I want to see in. 613 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: The sun, no doubt. And you could. It's a possibility 614 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: that you could. You just have to get around that defense. 615 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 4: Let me say this for the Rams offense. Understand, when 616 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 4: you're playing the Houston Texans, they're slanting. They're the different 617 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: team than the Niners. Demgo with the Niners. Demgo just 618 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: let those guys go. 619 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: This team. 620 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: They're stunting and slanting every they know they can't hold 621 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: up against a run. So you just have to make 622 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: sure that you have your eyes where you need to 623 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: because those guys are wherever they start, they're not finishing. 624 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: There is Coleman health. 625 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But I'm just saying you're gonna have guys. 626 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Well, we used to play teams and the only reason 627 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: I remember this is because I played against Amiko Ryans. 628 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: If they're not big and stout, they're slanting guys. 629 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: Everybody's slanting, stunting, they're doing ET's or some type of 630 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: run slant to get your lineman so they can't get 631 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: to those linebackers. And those linebackers aren't big either. They're 632 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: smaller guys too that can run. And so if you can, 633 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: if you can zone that off or find a way 634 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: to get up on those backers with your lineman, you're 635 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: gonna have some run running lanes. 636 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: They're gonna guess wrong at some point. Just be be there. 637 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: But I'm with you with the Coleman Shelton thing. It's 638 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 4: that's an experienced driver. You could take a nap if 639 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: you wanted to read a book. You don't have to 640 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: keep looking where he's looking. 641 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 642 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: It takes a lot of pressure off Matthew Stafford. It 643 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: takes a lot of pressure off those two guards right 644 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: next to him and the whole offensive line. Just talking 645 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: to him about ball is like talking to a quarterback 646 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: the way he sees it. 647 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 648 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: He can recognize coverage just by where you are. You 649 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: know you're not supposed to be there if he's going 650 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: to be there. A Matthew, watch this, you know what 651 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: I mean? Hey, we're gonna go this way. I thought, 652 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: I don't worry about it. We're going this way. He's 653 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 4: got that kind of cred So that's one thing you 654 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: lacked last year. Center was kind of in flux. It 655 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: was green until bow Lemmer kind of settled it down. 656 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: And he's green. Like you said, this is a whole 657 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 4: different animal, which should make your offense, your offensive line, 658 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: and your offense better. 659 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Let's stick with Rams offense against Texans defense. As we 660 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: start to transition more into a Week one preview, you 661 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: mentioned Namiko Ryans has had some great success against Stafford 662 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: and McVeigh when he was with the Niners. You could 663 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: argue his personnel is as good or better right now 664 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: in different places, but as good or better. 665 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: On defense. 666 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: They got two elite corners. Yes, I think adding CJ 667 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: to their safety room is a big deal. That's a 668 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: huge Is there a better pass rushing tandem on the 669 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: edge in the league. 670 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm just saying Bosa was like during that time, was blockable, unblockable. 671 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Let's agree to not argue about that and see the 672 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: fact that it's even a conversation means a good thing. 673 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: He's got a talented defense defense. 674 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: Yes, again, I I think two things I don't Fred 675 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: Warner roaming the middle of the field is a big 676 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: they don't have that. 677 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: They're a guy that can run. 678 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: I think is that guy. 679 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: He's good. 680 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: I think he's good. He's great, great, he's a good player. 681 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: But he's not running like Fred Warner. Like Fred Warner 682 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: would run through the middle of the field and that 683 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: would take away those digs. I don't see him doing that. 684 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: He's a physical guy, though, he's gonna come and he's 685 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: the one that again he brought him over because of 686 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: his physical presence. Right, Drake Greenland, Right, that's their dre Greenlaw. 687 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: I do believe that their dns are special, but the 688 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: d tackles are different. 689 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: Right, Those d tackles are different in San Francisco. 690 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Which I hope we feel that on Sunday, especially if 691 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: De Marco wants them to what do you say, go 692 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: up against the sleds? 693 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 4: I would like, I said, I would take them back 694 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: to early August. You have to sled for the first 695 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: quarter of the game. Yes, I want all that. 696 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Yes I agree with kind of a downhill bullyball approach, 697 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: but I think I would just include in that run 698 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: game anything quick, quick game, perimeter throws, speed outs to 699 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: to two eye bubbles, anything horizontal that's fast and keeps 700 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Matthew's time to throw down. I would I would consider 701 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: in that same section of the place sheet. 702 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: I think a screen to Pooka getting him running on 703 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: those dbs because they're they're they're really good. Make guys, 704 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: make them tackle the big your big back right uh. 705 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: I will say this the one the difference. Stingley's really good. 706 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: I just don't know how their safeties are though, And 707 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: I think that's where you're You're you'll be able to 708 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: take advantage a little bit with those tight splits. The 709 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: other thing is this too. And I actually Henry Tooto, 710 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: he's his dad. I coached with him at Dayla Soul. 711 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: So I went to the linebacker linebacker, so I want 712 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: to go talk to his dad. 713 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, make sure you tell Henry you know, 714 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: he has to have his eyes right because there's gonna 715 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: be a lot of moving going on there and and 716 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: and I think that's where they're going to be able 717 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: to take advantage because this team flies around, they play fast. 718 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: They do have a lot of eye violations or they're 719 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: out of position a lot. 720 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: When you said they move and they stunt, that's the 721 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: only thing that screws that I've been in those defenses 722 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: where everything's a stunt, everything's moving, but when the offense 723 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: starts to move, we have to communicate, and that gives 724 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: that quarterback a lot of data before we even move 725 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: because we have to change everything. Which where are you going? 726 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: I thought I had to do this. Now they moved 727 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: over there. Which where are you going? 728 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 729 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: That gives you some sort of indication as to where 730 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: the pressures coming from. 731 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: If I had to choose between elite edge rushers or 732 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: stout defensive tackles, I would prefer this matchup actually for 733 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: the McVeigh rams. Am I wrong in that regard? Like 734 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: I think back to Minnesota Thursday Night football, like going 735 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: up against Obrian Flora's defense and the way that this 736 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: building knows how to neutralize some of that compared to 737 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: when you're just outmatched in the middle. More of maybe 738 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: Miami game. 739 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: From Fletcher Cox back in the day. 740 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: But yes, you know what I'm saying though, If you're 741 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: saying that the strength of this Houston defense is not 742 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: down the spine of the field, then I'll take my 743 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: chances going into Sunday. 744 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: Yes, you're gonna get a lot of that coming down 745 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: the road, but this one here, like and Sean McVay 746 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: has been through this, Like you said, no matter what 747 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: the game plan is or what the complexion of the 748 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: game is, they he has found a way to adjust 749 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: to just about any plan. It's it's a rarity when 750 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 4: he gets run out of the gym or doesn't have answers, 751 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 752 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, you've gone against Amika before, so you know what 753 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: he's gonna run and vice versus. So it's gonna literally 754 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: be what plays work for you and what plays work 755 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: for them. 756 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Except other than when you had OBJ really going, I 757 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: don't know that you've seen a McVeigh offense with that, 758 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe in the height of Brandon Cook's power 759 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: or something. 760 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: I love. I love Brandon Cooks, I love the Archer, 761 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: But no, this is different. 762 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: I do think you know what is this year nine 763 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: now for Sean, with all that his coaching tree has expanded, 764 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: it's tough to find that next iteration. And I don't 765 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: know that you can just do it on a whiteboard, 766 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: but you can do it with personnel. And my hope 767 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: for this season is that it does evolve and it 768 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: does look different and it does look prolific because Davante 769 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: is the most accomplished receiver he's ever. 770 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: Worked with, no question, And I think that's the difference. Right, 771 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna they're gonna have to go one for one 772 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 3: or two for one on him, which is gonna open 773 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: up for everyone else guaranteed, Yes. 774 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Anything else on that side of the ball, or should 775 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: we flip it all right? Houston offensively, a reworked offensive 776 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: line isn't improved. 777 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: We'll see. 778 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about the comparative advantage that goes 779 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: to Demico's press conference. Yea, they've changed a lot up front, 780 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: but you have to give the edge to the Rams 781 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: offensive line going into Week. 782 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: One, No, I think so. 783 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you lose Laramie Tunsel, you trade your 784 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: guard who gets cut by the Eagles like your first run. 785 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: Like they have some issues, right and they and they 786 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: they made a decision because they couldn't run the ball 787 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: last year the way they wanted to write. 788 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: So you know coming in they're gonna want to run 789 00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: the football. 790 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: It's going to be on this Rams deepense to shut 791 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: that run down early and often make sure Nick Chubb 792 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: And the thing about Nick Chubb terrific running back. If 793 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: you get him off his track, he struggles. If he 794 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: can stay on that track, oh he's a world beater. 795 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: So you got to make sure you make him stop 796 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: his feet and go sideways in that north and south 797 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: and you'll have a great opportunity there. 798 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: How about starting a rookie left tackle on the road 799 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: in nursery against Jared Verse. 800 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: I told you earlier he should eat absolutely if Jared 801 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 4: Verse wants to take his place. And they're paying money 802 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: to top flight pass rushers now in the NFL, they 803 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: just started doing that. We see that now. I mean 804 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: the money is going up. You're getting quarterback. 805 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: What thirty one teams are, Yes, there's one in Texas. 806 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: If you want to get into that pay grade, then 807 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: you should eat this sort of situation up. If you 808 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: can go into Philly and you saw it, we were 809 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 4: all there and knock them around and talk trash to 810 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: them and their fans and back it up, you should 811 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: eat the rookie alive. This rookie should say years from now, 812 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: this was my welcome to the NFL moment. 813 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: Well that's what he did with the Dolphins left tackle 814 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: Toron Armstad made him retire. 815 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: So now you're in year two. 816 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, are their defensive keys are the things that 817 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: you'll be watching. 818 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: You know, get off the field. C J. 819 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: Stroud is a guy that can run. He's the guy 820 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: that can jump out the window and pick up first downs. 821 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: He can get out of third and fourteen's if you're 822 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: not disciplined. So the last thing you want to do 823 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: is to have teams make you pay. 824 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: For being aggressive. 825 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: Go from being aggressive to over aggressive, as in you're 826 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: wasting your gas and you keep giving them first downs 827 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: and you wear yourself out. So when you have a 828 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: chance to get off the field on third down, get 829 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: off the field, make the play, move on, get gator right, 830 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 4: and then come back. 831 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: You can help yourself that way. 832 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: It really is Nico Collins and then who else. I 833 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: think that's a question that remains to the answered. Christian 834 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: Kirk is on the injury report with that hamstring. He 835 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: was going to be their clear number two. We'll see 836 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: about his status of this week. 837 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Coulton, Schultz, Shulder, he's solid starter. 838 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: But they've only rostered too. They'll probably promote one from 839 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: the practice squad, but they're th at that position. And 840 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: then they got the two Iowa State rookies. We'll see 841 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: how much they give them early. 842 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: But my biggest thing is is don't allow Nico Collins deep. 843 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: Force CJ. 844 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: Stroud to come off of that read right, because he's 845 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: always going to look at Nico Collins first. 846 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: That's his guy. 847 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: Even when Stefan Diggs was there, they had all those guys. 848 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: He looked at Nico first. 849 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: If you force him to hold the ball and kind 850 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: of move his feet a little bit and slide in. 851 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: The pocket, he's not as accurate. 852 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different when he has to move 853 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 3: and he's feeling things and his eyes are downfield. When 854 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: he can get back on that fifth step or seventh 855 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: step and Nico's striking down the field, he throws the 856 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: prettiest pass in the world. 857 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: It's one. And that's what he did his rookie year. 858 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: That's what he did his rookie year. He was on fire. 859 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: Last year he struggled, and so I think a lot 860 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: of its people were are to realize Nico was out 861 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks. He started to struggle. They 862 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: started to take him away and they kind of do, well, 863 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: take Nico out of the pitcher, make him go somewhere else. 864 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: Make him have to play left handed, then you're good. 865 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see defensive back snap counts when we're 866 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: here next week. 867 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: Aren't you like? 868 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: What does Emmanuel Forbes week one workload look like? How 869 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: do they platoon those safeties and where do they align? 870 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to four of exactly how. 871 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: Many of those looks do they play against this Houston offense? 872 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: Thirty percent? I'm thinking, I don't know. 873 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: Uh Darius is going to start and play, uh as 874 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: he's going to play. He's a different guy. I hope 875 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 4: what we see out of that confidence with him, the 876 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: way he looks, in the way he's playing. 877 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: I hope that translates the game day. I really do. 878 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: I think all finished the year very strong. 879 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 4: I hope he picks up finished, physical and not afraid 880 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: to make play getting in there. So I hope that 881 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 4: translates to something special a late bloomer. But then you 882 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 4: got to roll in the other guys. How do you 883 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 4: play Forbes? And the safeties too? And q Lake? I 884 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: think Qlake has done everything except make the wild plays. 885 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: I mean, really, when you think about where he is 886 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 4: in his career, year four right, this is big for. 887 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Him, contract year for both your Nichols, yes, and Kobe 888 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: Durant big nickel and small nickel. I think they give 889 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: you a lot of optionality time. 890 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: But the only thing that he hasn't done is make 891 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 4: a game changing play. 892 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe Durant. 893 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: Has Yes, he's the DeMarco far this defense. In the 894 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: same game on Captain Q's first interception. 895 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: It's coming, it's coming. He had a great training cramp 896 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 4: he really did. 897 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 898 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, quick run on special teams. You talked about it 899 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: early on. Feel good about the kicking game. 900 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: I think I'm comfortable with the kicking game, and I 901 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: think that's the mostion. That was one of the things 902 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 3: we've we having last year was kind of like yes, no, 903 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: and then it got going. 904 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: I'm comfortable. And then the fact that you don't have 905 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: to worry about the kicking game. 906 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: The punter can punt the ball out of you know, 907 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: to the form if you need him to, or you 908 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 3: can drop it inside the ten and your kicker is good. 909 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: From I would say, what forty. 910 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: Against the Seahawks fifty five? 911 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: You're you're confident in that. 912 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: That's what you Last year is about, going from worse 913 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: to average in the kicking game. I wonder if you 914 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: can weaponize it this year. I wonder if you can 915 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: really tilt fuel position. Yeah, I'm confidence. 916 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 3: The first preseason game he kicked like a seventy yard 917 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: or a missile. 918 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Should be a weapon, yes, no doubt. 919 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: And then the dynamic kickoff. I wonder what they choose 920 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: to do. 921 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 4: Kick that thing out of the en zone. Yeah, get 922 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: anything out of the zone. We're not even don't be 923 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 4: scared of it. 924 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: Kick it out of there. 925 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm the team cardioff the tea. I think you get 926 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: that thing on the ground in the landing zone. 927 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm making kicked that thing throw. 928 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: I think you're bigger and faster and deeper on your 929 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: special team's portion of the roster. I want to see 930 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: those guys go work. I want to see you want to. 931 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: Be on the field with the short field. Come on, shortie, 932 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: and if. 933 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: You give away the thirty five, their two first downs 934 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: are a chunk play away from having three on the board. 935 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: Kick that thing, or you could do the dynamic kick 936 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 3: and the guy could be running down the sidelines. 937 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: Because someone can take chances. Come on, you know, let's 938 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 2: make sure we do it the right way. 939 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: Last chance, last call, anything you want to say before 940 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: we break for the week. 941 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 4: No, just I'm happy that the whole Matthew Stafford back 942 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 4: drama has kind of died down some. If he plays 943 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 4: well on Sunday, I think it goes away until it 944 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: comes back up again. But I have to give a 945 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 4: shout out to the quarterback room. I think this is 946 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 4: the healthiest that room has been and the most talented 947 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 4: it's been in a while. When you go out and 948 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 4: watch them practice, even Stetson Bennett, they are very athletic 949 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 4: and they're competitive. They compete with each other. It's not 950 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: just Matthew Stafford who is far and away the best. 951 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 4: Like over everyone everyone has something to say. So if 952 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: something bad does happen knock on Wood, it's not the 953 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 4: end of the world, although you'd rather have nine out there. 954 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 4: So I think that's the best thing you can say. 955 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 4: That's another thing that I woke up thinking. That is 956 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: something else that gives me calm about this year. Jimmy 957 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 4: Garoppolo and just the health of the quarterback room. 958 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting you started by backing yourself out of December, Like, 959 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to get to the end of the 960 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: journey until we take care of the front end. I'm 961 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of the other way around where I came into 962 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: this thinking I'd like to see the twenty five Rams 963 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: compete for a one seed, oh no question, And like, 964 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I think they've got that in them. And whether it's 965 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: Aler Jackson's deal or Stafford's deal or the Packers trading 966 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: for Micah Parsons, I'd still like to see that. But 967 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: that's not primary for me anymore. I think this group 968 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: is about just getting back in the dance and being 969 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: the tough out that they've always been. Stafford play seventeen 970 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: or not, Are you good to go come wild card 971 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: weekend or Division run weekend? If so, I like the 972 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: possibility of ending this season at Levice. 973 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: I'll say this, Not many teams have a backup quarterback 974 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 3: that played in the Super Bowl started in the Super Bowl, right, 975 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 3: Not many teams have a quarterback that beat you six times, right, Like, 976 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 3: so you forget about that. 977 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: I forget about those. 978 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 3: How good Jimmy was when he played us, and so 979 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: that's what makes me sleep well at night. But to 980 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: be honest, I'm just happy football is back, yes, right, 981 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 3: Like I'm happy to be here and to talk about 982 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: the Rams and to have a game on Sunday, a 983 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 3: game tonight, a game Friday. I'm happy to see this 984 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: marathon again, you know, I know it's this not the 985 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: New York Marathon. It's bigger than that, right, And to 986 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: see how the the evan flows of the game. And 987 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: you know, being in Detroit a couple of years ago 988 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: and being on the tarmac for five hours, not even 989 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: have an idea that we're on the tarmac for five hours. You, 990 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: I mean, like all those things, That's what I love 991 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: about being here. That's what I love about this. It's 992 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 3: just so many different things that are going to happen. 993 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait till he talk about bringing that up. 994 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: You can sleep on an airplane. I can sleep anyway 995 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 2: all over. 996 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: And I always remember about that flight Aaron Donald knowing 997 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: he was done, Yes, Tyler Higbee's nicheh redded. 998 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: Oh Man and MJD sleeping. 999 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 4: Sleeping the whole It was like ten hours have we landed? No, 1000 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 4: we haven't left yet. Okay, No. 1001 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: I woke up, like, why is a sunout? De Mark 1002 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: goes like, what do you mean? 1003 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: The only thing we know for certain is that half 1004 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: of what we said here today we will not want 1005 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: to revisit in January because the twist and turns that 1006 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: will go down throughout this journey are unpredictable, and the 1007 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: rams are well equipped to hand them. The Rands are 1008 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: well equipped to handle them. DeMarco far Maurice Jones, Drum JB. Long, 1009 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: Glad that you can join us all season long right 1010 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: here on between the horns presented by your Southern California 1011 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: and tell you the dealers