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I grab a yellow notepad. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Whenever we get the big games Super Bowl, Conference Championship 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: one or two regular season games, NBA finals, say who 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: are the ten best players? And so we decided today AFC, tomorrow, 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: NFC ram Seahawks before we get the Greg co sell 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes, who are the ten best 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: players between the Patriots and Broncos in our opinion or 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: at least mine heading into the AFC Championship And here 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: we go. 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Number ten. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Mike Onwenu, interior lineman New England, allowed two sacks on 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty two pass blocking snaps. One of 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: the top four to five best guards in the NFL again. 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: It's not a great old lineman, but it's not a 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: great old line. He is a great interior O lineman. 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Number nine, Cortland Sutton. I think he's the most underrated 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: number one receiver in the league. Led Denver in catches yards, touchdowns. 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean he catches touchdowns. There's only five guys in 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the league. You start looking around one of five guys 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: thousand yards, seven plus touchdowns last two years. And boy 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: do they depend on him in big drives or what 31 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean? They locked bo Nicks locks in on him 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: whenever they need a big play. Courtland Sutton nine. Number 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: eight Christian Gonzalez. Patriots are thirteen and one and allow 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: eighteen points a game when he plays this season, Opposing 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks mostly avoid him. Opposing quarterbacks have a sixty one 36 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: passer rating when they go after Christian Gonzales. Long, fast, strong, 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: good hands, strong hands. He's an ace. Christian Gonzalez. Number 38 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: seven Zach Allen, one of the better defensive linemen that 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: doesn't get credit. He led the NFL in quarterback hits 40 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and pressures this season, including the playoffs. He's a beast. 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Then they get him from Arizona. Nobody was talking about it. 42 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Great acquisition, unheralded big inside for Denver. Number six Garrett 43 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Bowles probably plays a more important position, left tackle. Highest 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: graded overall pass blocker in the entire National Football League, 45 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: higher than Trent Williams. He is a great pass blocker. 46 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: Fourth rated OT overall. Garrett Bowles. 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: Number five. 48 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Here's what's amazing and rare. He is graded 49 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: as a top ten receiver not only when he lines 50 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: up next to the sideline, but also as a slot. 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: You can move him all over the offense, and I 52 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: don't think they would have nearly the success. He's the 53 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: one guy. Sometimes you have to put. You have to bracket. 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Put a couple of people on Stefan Diggs. 55 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: Number four. 56 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Quinn Miners, best guard arguably in football, highest graded guard 57 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: this season, First team All Pro. It's another guy's another guy. 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: They just don't allow. They all lot of loss sacks. 59 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Bow Knicks doesn't get sacked. Some of it is Bulls 60 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and Miners, some of it's bow Knicks. Dad's a coach. 61 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't take sacks. Quinn Miner is a great player. Number three, 62 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: and he's not even in his prime. Drake May he'll 63 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: get better first player NFL history, seventy percent completion percentage, 64 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: four thousand passing yards and rush for over four hundred 65 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: and fifty yards. And again, I don't even think he's 66 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: in his prime. I don't even think so far, he's 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: been great in the playoffs. Drake May three. Number two 68 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: Nick Benito. Outside of Miles Garrett, he's the only player 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: with thirteen plus sacks the last two years, and he'll 70 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: probably get one this weekend. I remember at college at 71 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Oaklahom I was a good player, and he's kind of thin, 72 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: got strong on that. He just he feels like he's 73 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: getting better every year of his career, and he is 74 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: a dog in big moment. He is a he not 75 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett maybe, but has a chance to be a 76 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He is just a He's a dog 77 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: in big spots. Number one. Patrick's artan I think is 78 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: you can make the argument he's the best corner. Reigning 79 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, four time Pro bowler last 80 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: four years, Voted the number ten player in the league 81 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: by other players. Six Broncos, four Patriots bought New England 82 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: at the most important position, has a sizeable advantage. Drake 83 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: May over Jarrett Stidham, and I think that's the difference 84 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: in the game. Like Jmack, I think it's really close. 85 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: And I think I said this about Buffalo. I think 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: Denver's high end talent is outstanding. Bowls and Zach Allen 87 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: and Quinn Miners and Bonito and Sartain. I don't think. 88 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's many teams in the league, maybe Philadelphia, 89 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: maybe the Rams who have better high end talent. Now, 90 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: if you went eleven through fifteen, I think you'd have 91 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a few more Patriots. But six' Four Denver and with, 92 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: that you Know Greg sell me Think i'm out of my. 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Mind let's go To greg Co sell fourty six YEARS nfl. 94 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: FILMS i have a. 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Soft spot for interior offensive lineman because we never talk about, 96 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: him but There Quinn minor is a great example of 97 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: a guy that you, know nobody ever talks, about but 98 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: he and. Bowls that offensive line For denver's a real. 99 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Thing your, Thoughts, Greg. 100 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm just wondering where the long snappers are on your, List. 101 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: COLIN i figure they'd be in the top. Ten you 102 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: know the player that really stood out to, me And 103 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: i'm glad you had him very high AND i think 104 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: it speaks to a significant matchup in this game Is 105 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: Nick benito because As i'm sure you've noticed That i've 106 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: studied the. Tape, Obviously Will campbell has been having significant 107 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: problems in one on one pass protection over the last 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 4: two three weeks against really good, rushers of Which benito. 109 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: IS i, Mean campbell has struggled With mac And oway 110 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: from The, chargers he struggled big time With hunter And 111 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 4: anderson from The, texans and now he's going to get 112 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: almost Exclusively benito Because benito lines up pretty much on 113 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: the right side of the defense ninety seven ninety eight 114 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: percent of the. Time and the thing is is The 115 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 4: patriots are well aware of. This so what they've started 116 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: to do is help, him either helping him with, chips 117 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: which they do a, lot or. 118 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: Even with a primary pass. 119 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 4: Protector and that has an impact through your entire pass 120 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: game because now there's fewer receivers you can send out 121 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: as primary, receivers so you lose the numbers game even 122 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: before the play starts because you can't send out five. 123 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: Eligibles SO i think that Matchup campbell Versus, benito and 124 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: how The patriots want to deal with that is a 125 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: pretty significant part of this. 126 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Game all, right let's talk about two stories before we 127 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: get to the matchups Between New england And shut And Seattle. 128 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Rams Caleb. Williams what did the film say About caleb 129 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: and the lost of The? Rams? 130 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: Even AND i think he's been like. That he's just 131 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: spectacular on the good. Plays think and he'll get better and. 132 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: Better you, Know i've talked to a lot of coaches 133 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: over the. Years i'm sure you have as, well and 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: most coaches will tell you that it takes two to 135 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 4: three years for a quarterback to really get a sense 136 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: of mastery within a specific offensive. 137 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: System and we know That Ben johnson's system. 138 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: Has a lot of, detail a lot of, complexity a 139 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: lot of, nuance and that's going to take some. Time 140 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: there's no question this guy is a really kind of 141 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: elite talent just the way he throws a. Ball but 142 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: he's going to have to work on his lower body 143 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: mechanics because he throws a lot. 144 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: Of balls off. Balance because his arm, talent just as 145 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: an arm is so. 146 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: Good but that's one reason why He's his ball placement 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: at times becomes inconsistent and. Erratic BUT i would expect 148 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: the future to be very. BRIGHT i, mean he's really. 149 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: Gifted he clearly got better as the year. Progressed, yeah, 150 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: SO i MEAN i think it's a. Positive there's nothing 151 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: really negative to. Say the guy's only in his second. 152 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Year mike McDaniel, chargers what will he potentially bring To 153 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Justin herbert that maybe he hasn't had in his. Career. 154 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: YEAH i don't know if you Know mike McDaniel at. 155 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,359 Speaker 4: All i've been around, him and he's an incredibly intelligent 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 4: guy just overall and incredibly intelligent and football as. Well 157 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: and you, know a lot of people immediately, thought, well what's. 158 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: He going to? 159 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: Do you, know you can't run the two offense With Justin. 160 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: Herbert mike McDaniel knows. That i'm sure that was, discussed 161 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: and he's not going to do. That there might be 162 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 4: elements of, that because there's always elements of quick game 163 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: and rhythm throws in any, offense but he's going to 164 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: look At Justin, herbert. 165 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: Which i'm sure he has already in great. 166 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: Detail he probably did that before he interviewed with, them 167 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: and he's going to see exactly What Justin herbert's traits 168 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: are and he will tailor what he does in the 169 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: past game to What Justin herbert is because you always 170 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: tail your pass game to your quarterback strengths and you 171 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: try to minimize what you believe his limitations. Are the 172 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: one area THAT i think will improve dramatically will be 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: their run. GAME i, mean obviously they had a lot 174 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 4: of injuries on THE o. Line assume That slater And 175 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: alt will be. BACK i would Expect omary and him 176 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: to have a really good season this year in A 177 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: mike McDaniel run. Game BUT i think it's a really 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: good signing Because mike McDaniel is incredibly, intelligent very, expansive very. 179 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Thoughtful, okay let's Talk New england And. Denver do The 180 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: patriots offense or The patriots defense matchup better against The. 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: Broncos, well The patriots defense over the last number of 182 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: weeks has really been, good and they've increased their blitz 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: frequency and their blitz quotions quite a. Bit they play 184 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: a ton of man coverage and it'll be interesting to 185 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: see How Sean payton deals With Jared. Stidham, Now Jared 186 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: stinnam has been in that offense for three. Years he's 187 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: been With Sean, payton so this isn't new to. Him 188 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: but obviously it's new, playing and it's obviously a big. 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: Game but my sense Is Sean, payton to, me is 190 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: not the kind of guy that's going to try to 191 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: hide the. 192 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: QUARTERBACK i think he's going to play his. 193 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: Offense now, again that doesn't mean he'll do exactly this 194 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: same thing he would have Boned nix's. Playing BUT i 195 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: think it's about concepts and he's going to try to be. 196 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: AGGRESSIVE i would think on early downs where the predictability 197 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: of the defense is more than it is on let's, 198 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: say pure pass situations are third and. Long so BUT 199 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: i do not believe he will try to hide his 200 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: quarterback in this game at. All but this has become 201 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: a very difficult defense to play, against with a lot 202 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: of really good players that a lot of people might 203 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: not be aware, of Like Milton, williams Like, Barmore they're 204 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: really good. 205 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: Inside let me. 206 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Ask, You jared stiodhim out of. College do you recall 207 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: how you sized him? 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: Up, well what do you think of? 209 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: HIM i Thought stidham was the kind of guy, that 210 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: in the right, situation with development and, cultivation could be 211 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: one of those mid level type. Starters you know that 212 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: he would need other things you, know you need a run, 213 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: game he need a good defense because he wasn't the 214 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 4: kind of guy you'd want dropping back thirty five or forty. 215 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: Times that he could end up being that kind of, 216 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: guy you, know and it hasn't worked, Out and there's, 217 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: many many reasons why that does work out and doesn't work. 218 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: Out BUT i thought that he was good enough to 219 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: be one of those mid level starters if the situation 220 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: was absolutely. 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Correct, yeah kind of A Kirk cousins maybe where you 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: could win a division with. Him you may not Win Super, 223 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: bowls but you can win a lot of. 224 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: Games, Stylistically, YES i think he's, that and he was 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: a little more mobile Than Kirk. Cousins but, yeah he's 226 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: you know, again we don't know what he's going to 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: do in this. 228 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: Game there's no way of. Knowing there's no way of. 229 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: PREDICTING i Guess i'd be surprised if he's, Bad but 230 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: you know, again he's probably they're not going to ask 231 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: him to carry them unless the game turns into that 232 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: kind of game where he has to drop back forty. 233 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Times, no we Know denver gets a pass. Rush is 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: The bronco defense built to stop or slow Down Drake 235 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: may and this offense it's Not, houston but it is 236 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: aggressive and get. 237 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: Sacks. 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: Well the crazy thing Was. Colin The bronco defense was 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: not very good last. Week and from what Everything i've, 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: heard they were playing against the quarterback who have only 241 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: is one of the worst in. Football that's WHAT i 242 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: seem to have been hearing all week on social. 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: Media but they could not stop The. 244 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: Bills The bills put up thirty points against, them and 245 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: that does not happen At Mile high or whatever they 246 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: call it. NOW i guess that doesn't happen very often at. 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: All they really didn't get To Josh allen very. Much 248 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: The bills pretty much went up and down the. Field 249 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: SO i would assume they'll play. Better you, know The 250 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: patriots offense is it's obviously a very good. 251 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: Offense may has not been quite as good in the. 252 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: Playoffs clearly last week they played a really good, defense 253 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 4: and that defense really dominated The patriots. 254 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: Offense last. Week The texans defense. 255 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: DID i would expect the pass rush to be a 256 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: bigger factor this. 257 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: Week we talked About Will. 258 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: Campbell so you, know it is a very very good 259 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: defense and they're good at all three. Levels, now the 260 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: one area WHERE i think you can attack with The 261 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: broncos defense IS i think you can attack their linebackers 262 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: in the past. 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Game, yeah all, Right RAMSEYAHAWKS la in two games games 264 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: has averaged thirty points in four hundred and fifteen. Yards 265 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: that's saying something Against seattle's. Defense, yes The rams offensively 266 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: been so effective Against seattle's. 267 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: Defense, well and everybody wants to Talk, stafford and in 268 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: the second, Game stafford was. Phenomenal but they have been 269 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: able to run the ball collin against that, defense and 270 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: very few people have been able to do. THAT i 271 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: think they've run for one hundred and twenty plus in both. 272 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: Games the style of running with their duo concept where 273 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: you have double teams on both defensive, tackles has allowed 274 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: them to be somewhat effective because most teams cannot Get 275 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: Byron murphy And Letard williams block their two defensive. Tackles On, 276 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: seattle most teams can't get those guys. Blocked the forty 277 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: nine ers in two games could not get those guys. 278 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: Blocked they've both been unbelievably. Good it's a really good. 279 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: Defense they're a nickel. Defense eminori is a you, know 280 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: plays lines up in different spots depending on what the 281 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: offensive formation, is and he's basically a four to Three sam. 282 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: Linebacker they're just very good at all three, levels and 283 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: they're a team that plays mostly out of a too deep, 284 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: shell so it's very hard to get big plays over 285 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: the top of. 286 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: Them THE rams defense has, flummoxed has Confused Sam. Donald 287 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: belichick had success with. This what do The rams do 288 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: TO i Mean Sam donald a lot of wins and 289 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of yards and a lot of. Touchdowns the 290 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: last two Years rams have given him. 291 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Fits Why, YEAH i think one of the things you 292 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: try to do with any, quarterback but With, donald who's 293 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: always at times had this, issue is changing the picture 294 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: pre snap to post. Snap some might remember in the 295 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: second game there was an interception By, wallace who doesn't 296 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: play now because lakes, back but there was an interception 297 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: By wallace where they showed man to man pre snap 298 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: and it turned out to be zone And sam read 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: it as man and threw a pass that was picked. 300 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: Off SO i think With Sam donald you try to 301 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: do a lot of. 302 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 5: That you try to change the picture pre snap to post. 303 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: Snap, now one area where The seahawks have been much 304 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: better over the last month is running the football. Now 305 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: Obviously charbonne's out in this, game But walker's been much. 306 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: Better walker has been attacking downhill much more so over 307 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: the last three four. Games he's often been much more 308 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: OF i always thought of him as kind of a jazz, 309 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: musician you, know sort of improvising and looking for. 310 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: Things whereas the last three four weeks he's. 311 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: Been a little more attacking downhill and getting the hard, 312 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: yards and that has allowed them to stay on. Schedule 313 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: and it's also with their defense Allowed donald not to 314 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: have to throw that many. Balls, now whether that happens 315 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: in this, game that's hard to. Know you don't know 316 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: how it's going to play. Out but in an ideal, 317 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: WORLD i don't think they Want Sam donald dropping back 318 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: thirty five. TIMES i think they wanted to be a 319 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: very balanced offense and have their defense in some ways 320 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: control the paying tempo of the. 321 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Game is the defense For seattle scheme centric coaching or 322 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: is it just? Listen they're long. FAST i Mean i'll 323 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: say this to get To Marcus lawrence at thirty. Three, 324 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: YEAH i MEAN i watched them this. Year i'm, like 325 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: has he got? Leaner who gets? Better at thirty? Three 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: on the defensive. Side do they just put them in better? 327 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: SCHEMES i mean they get more of the safety out 328 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Of South carolina has been. Fantastic what is it for cs've. 329 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 5: Been, fantastic you. 330 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: KNOW i would never want to say that there's not 331 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: major scheme elements to a defense because you'd have to 332 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: know all the individual things they. Do and we're not 333 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: in the, meetings but BY nfl, standards WHEN i watch their, Tape, 334 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 4: COLIN i would say that they're more static than they 335 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: are doing one hundred different things like some, defenses but 336 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: everything they, do for the most, part is out of 337 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: a two. Shell look even their pressures there's two shell behind, 338 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 4: it so they really don't give up much over the. 339 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 4: TOP i would say their pressures are where they're really really. 340 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: Good they're not a high percentage blitz. Team they rush, four, 341 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: right they rush four and they stuck really really. Well 342 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: but when they do, pressure it's really well. Done And 343 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: mike McDonald has such a great understanding of protections by 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: the opponent and how to break them, down because that's 345 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: ultimately what you're trying to do with, Pressure you're trying 346 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: to break down. 347 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Protections, Finally Sam darnald give me a play you like 348 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: From donald this? 349 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: Week, yeah, YEAH i Thought donald there was a great 350 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: play the touchdown he threw it To smith And. Jig 351 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: but he only threw i think seventeen balls this. Week 352 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: but let's look at the touchdown he threw To smith And, 353 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: jig because this was just a, really really good play 354 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: and the kind of play that you know is just 355 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: one of those you, go, wow that's just really. 356 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 5: Good and so this play obviously low red. 357 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: Zone you're going to See, donald he's under, center it's twelve. 358 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 4: Personnel you're going to have the back and two tight. 359 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: Ends you're going to see the two receivers, Here cup 360 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 4: And smith And. Jig but now they have reduced. Splits 361 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: and the reason they have reduced splits is. Goaues they're 362 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: going to run mirrored. Crossers so when you run cross very, 363 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 4: often you want your receivers closer to the ball because 364 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: you want to get them across the. Field so now 365 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: what happens here is you're going to See pressman on the, 366 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: outside receivers A cup In smith and jiggba by the 367 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: forty nine, ers and you're going to See. Barner he'll 368 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: motion across the. Formation now that's just a mechanic of the, 369 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: play his motion across the. Formation obviously it's an important, 370 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 4: part but he's going to do. It so now what 371 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: you're going to get is you're going to get play 372 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: action And Sam, darnold who will boot to his, left 373 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: he'll boot into the, boundary so there's not a lot of. 374 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: Space so ultimately what he's looking for here Is smith 375 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: And jigba on the crosser into the. Boundary but that's very, Muddy, 376 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 4: colin that's a very muddy. Look you're just uncertain as 377 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: to where to throw the. Football So sam has to keep, 378 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: rolling he has to keep rolling, out and as he 379 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: gets further, out he sees there's another safety's sitting right. 380 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: There this play right now looks like it is absolutely, 381 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: dead but he just keeps rolling and makes it unbelieve 382 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: a throw To smith And Jake. Ben you can see 383 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: from this angle just how hard and difficult to throw this. 384 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 5: Is and that's just a big time. 385 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: Throw and the key thing is we all know with 386 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: any quarterback people like to focus With donald about it is, 387 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: turnovers and if he doesn't turn it, over their team 388 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: is really really good in pretty much every. 389 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: Area Greg cosel forty six YEARS nfl. Films we always get. 390 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Smarter great Seeing. 391 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: Greg Thanks, colin appreciate. 392 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: It, boy that is going to be something. Else these 393 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: games are going to. Be Really i'm bummed. OUT i 394 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: want to see bow. Next BUT i Remember jarreed stid 395 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: him in. COLLEGE i, Mean Sean payton got The Denver 396 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: remember when he paid him twelve million to be a 397 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: backup he was with A. RAIDERS i think they paid 398 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: him twelve. MILLION i remember being on the air that. Day, 399 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: man he must like, him, so you, KNOW i always 400 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: say who likes the? Quarterback shanahan Loved, Donald kevin O'Connell 401 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: really Liked. Donald, Yeah DEN i kept buyding To donald. 402 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: McVeigh really Like Baker. 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Soaring oh you like That seahawks. 426 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 8: Soaring we got the BIG Nfc championship Game sunday On Fox. 427 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: Now listen to this. 428 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 8: Closely McVeigh was breaking down the challenge of. 429 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Facing Sam darnold for a third. Time listen. Closely is 430 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: this a shot at your? Boy you want to be 431 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: careful not to chase. 432 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 7: Ghosts you know it is about you, know good, execution good, 433 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 7: fundamentals they're you, know they're they're a great, team and 434 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 7: they're great. 435 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: In all three. 436 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 5: Phases we'd like to think. 437 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 7: What warhammon and we're at our, best we're pretty good, 438 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 7: Too and so you are aware of those, things but 439 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 7: you don't want to do it at the detriment of 440 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: allowing guys to be able to go execute and play 441 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 7: the way that they're capable. 442 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: Of chasing. 443 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 8: Ghosts, YEAH i don't think it. Is it's not really 444 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 8: in his but it's an interesting turn of. 445 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Phrase, No, YEAH i JUST i don't that's not really how. 446 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: McVeigh McVay is very, respectful at least. Publicly you, know 447 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: he's a very respectful, guy very respectful to the league 448 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: and The shield and the, organization very humble and. GRATEFUL 449 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: i don't think he would do, that especially on two, 450 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: days three days out from the. GAME i. DON'T i 451 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: don't think you want to rattle The Seahawks seattle. 452 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 8: Cage, Yeah i'm assuming what he meant, was, hey, hey 453 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 8: we won the first, meeting we shredded in them second. 454 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 8: Meeting you, know let's not look at. That we got 455 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 8: to come up with some new, stuff. RIGHT i am, curious, 456 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 8: though what The rams did in That week sixteen game 457 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 8: that was just six weeks. 458 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: Ago the teams have. 459 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 8: Not changed that much from, Them that's, right except The 460 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 8: rams are now Adding Devonte adams and arguably their best 461 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 8: offensive lineman who were not there that, day and The 462 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 8: seahawks are Down. Scharboney by the, Way charbone was integral 463 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 8: in both. Games he had thirteen touches in each of. 464 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: Them he. 465 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: Was he's a much better blocking back as. 466 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no it's these are really even. Teams one superior. 467 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: OFFENSIVELY i mean mcveighs an offensive coach that gives you an, 468 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: edge but McDonald defensively is really. SHARP i think the 469 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: bet is la plus. Points that's my take on, this 470 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: because they've we Know stafford's good in these big. Games 471 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: we don't know, YET i Mean, donald it wasn't a 472 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: big lift last. WEEK i Think i've said. This they're 473 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: both can be a little. RECKLESS i Mean Matt stafford 474 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: missed on four or five throws that he usually makes last. 475 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: Week the weather was. Bad he also had been before 476 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: last week on a seven, game seven pick. Streak the 477 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: difference is his resume is better and he's won these big. 478 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Games but you, know you put pressure On, stafford he 479 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: lets it. Go he's an aggressive downfield. Thrower donald's an 480 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: aggressive downfield THROW i think it feels like to me 481 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: that the positions that are really really, important like head 482 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: coach and, quarterback The rams have an experience advantage in this. Spot. S, 483 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: yeah that was the second youngest team In. Elite that 484 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: leads me to believe if it was IN, La i'd 485 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: really like The rams In. SEATTLE i like the, points 486 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: but WHEN i have a head coach a quarterback advantage 487 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: in a big. Spot, Also Devonte adams tight Ends Kyan 488 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: williams been around now several big. Games, like there's some 489 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: key places. Here rams defense is mostly, young But Cam 490 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: curl's been around that safety for a. While they got From. Baltimore, 491 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: landman you, know was in the league before The rams had. 492 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: HIM i just think they have experienced a really good. 493 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 8: Spots, yeah you want to guess how many games games 494 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 8: The rams lost by more than three points this? Season 495 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 8: just looking at their schedule here one, yeah That eagles, 496 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 8: game the blocked field goal at the buzzer that. 497 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: They didn't even. 498 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 8: Need every other game is. Closed The rams are in 499 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 8: every single. Game, NOW i will add As i'm looking 500 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 8: here at the. Schedule third straight road game for The, 501 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 8: rams on the road In, carolina on the road last 502 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 8: week In, chicago now To, seattle you, know for whatever that's. 503 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: Worth all, right let's move on to The Buffalo. 504 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 8: Bills they are this week's flaming dumpster fire in THE. 505 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: Nfl. 506 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 8: Uh The Terry pagoula press, conference The Brandon bean, Stuff sean. 507 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 8: McDermott i'm sure McDermott's side is gonna come out here. 508 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 8: Soon but, Uh Brandon bean took questions from the media 509 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 8: talking about his relationship with. 510 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 9: McDermott there's certain things that fall in his his, area 511 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 9: where it's managing. 512 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: A, game. 513 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 9: How we how we scheme the, game whatever it is 514 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 9: that are. His and then there's certain decisions that personnel. 515 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 9: Related somebody's got to make the final. Call what was 516 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 9: the saying, About CAN i CAN i help? 517 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: Him? Alttle CAN i help you about the power play 518 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: part of? 519 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 7: That i'm the kind of guy IF i sent you 520 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 7: on a power, play you're. 521 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 8: OUT i don't like the owner stepping In. COLIN i 522 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 8: don't know about. You, Well Brandon bean fight his own. 523 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 8: FIGHT i think the, owners you, know it's their. Franchise 524 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 8: Garry jones talks twice a. Week why Can't Terry pagoula 525 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 8: talk once so? 526 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: Long how's That Jerry jones things working? Out how MANY 527 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: Nfc championship? Visits that's? Good thank you for that meat 528 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: ball over the. 529 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 8: Middle but just a quick thing on the bean McDermott 530 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 8: colin like they had a good run. Together AND i 531 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 8: can't help but think about The Bill walsh. 532 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: Quote there's A Bill walsh quote. 533 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 8: From a book circulating about how you know what coaches 534 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: are watching, film they're, grinding they're in. Meetings what's THE gm. 535 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 8: Doing he's hanging out with the. Owner how do you 536 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 8: think that's? 537 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 5: Going? 538 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 8: Well it can't possibly be my. Fault we got this amazing. 539 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 8: Roster we gave, Him Josh, allen we gave him. Everything 540 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 8: and they're not, winning. Right that's why gms are so. 541 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 8: Protected and, Man i'm just telling You Buffalo bill's, fans 542 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 8: they're not happy with this at. ALL i don't know 543 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 8: how they fix this other Than, Dable, like what other 544 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 8: name Besides Joe brady Or dable is going to make them. 545 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: Happy coaches make two to three times four times what gms, 546 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: do so you don't make as many moves with THE 547 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: gms because coaches are more and it's a quarterback coach, 548 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: league not a QUARTERBACK gm, league so gms don't get 549 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: fired as, much but they don't make nearly as much. 550 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: Money SO i think it's, now let's Attack Brandon bean 551 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: that he's a. BUM I i that's a little, strong but, 552 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: YEAH i, MEAN i just you, KNOW i Think brandon 553 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Be Terry thegoula is a very smart. GUY i don't 554 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: think he'd be. Manipulated you, Know i'm reading all these. Stories, 555 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: well this, Guy Brandon, bean he is Really i've. Heard 556 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: this is What i've been. Told real, sharp very good 557 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: with a, cap very good with. Business maybe not a 558 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: top three personnel, guy but he's. Not the offense has 559 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: all sorts of good, Players Dawson knox And Dalton, kincaid 560 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: and go look at their offensive, Line James cook and 561 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: the slot kid out Of Boise state And Josh. Allen 562 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: let's not pretending you don't have any. Players and by the, 563 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: way their defensive Front oliver was his draft. Pick they 564 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: got the kid out Of. Iowa they have some decent 565 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: guys up FOR i don't think they are great, defense. 566 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 8: But that's the thing people are drilling down on all 567 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 8: these picks that you're, like, decent good and they're not all, 568 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 8: pros and then barely making programs and Even. 569 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Cable let me ask you, this what's the worst place 570 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: in the first round of? DRAFT i, mean EVERY Gm 571 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: i've ever talked, to it's. There but once you Get 572 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: mahomes you used to In Buffalo, baltimore you start drafting 573 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixth down that those are second round. Players so 574 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: like The chiefs Got Xavier. Worthy Xavier worthy is a gadget. 575 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Receiver it was a week. Draft it was the best guy. 576 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: Available you don't Think Xavier worthy is a first round. 577 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Player when you draft at the end of the first, 578 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: round they end up getting guys that are really second round. 579 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Players so let me just defend THE. Nfl it's hard 580 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: to win in this. League but when you get GREAT i, 581 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: mean right, now think about. This The rams have been 582 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: good since McBay got. There they have one first round 583 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: pick in nine. Years they nailed It jared versus. One 584 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: why because The rams and this year they've got a 585 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: really high end you, know closer to the, middle but 586 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: high end first round. Pick they never have. That so 587 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: it's Like that's why The rams don't be shocked if 588 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: they don't go Get Ty simpson with their first pick 589 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: in reach because said they're going to be at the 590 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round for the next ten. 591 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 8: Years that's a good. Question so how do We how 592 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 8: are we supposed to grade? Gms that's the tough. 593 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: One is it free? Agency is it the? 594 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Draft let me, say is it the? 595 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: CAP i mean it's not. 596 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Easy let me say. This there are two or three. 597 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Things if you ask my wife OR i asked, yours 598 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: that they're going to judge us on one or two 599 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: or three, things you can screw up taking the garbage. 600 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: Out if you're A, GM i do that and you 601 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: get the superstar quarterback right in the. Draft you can 602 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: make a lot of. Mistakes you can make a lot of. 603 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: Mistakes ALL i know is This Ryan poles with The. 604 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: Bears he GOT Dj, moore he Got Caleb. Williams he 605 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: made Two now he's had some MOVES i don't, love 606 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: But Ben Johnson Caleb williams, Right, like you can say 607 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: what you want and pick these guys. Apart if you 608 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: get the quarterback, Right Brandon being got the quarterback, Right 609 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Brett veach got the quarterback. Right McVay rolled the, dice 610 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: had to Pay golf And. Stafford he got the quarterback, 611 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: right which isn't. 612 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 8: Easy let's be, real getting the quarterback right is not. 613 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 8: Easy ask My, jets ask The browns. ASK i mean 614 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 8: The panthers with price and like a lot of people 615 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 8: think their, Quarterback. 616 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Denver had to eventually go Get Peyton manning to Replace. 617 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: Elway all those years they had smart, gms they couldn't 618 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: get the. Quarterback Jake plumber was, good but it's. Hard 619 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: so like if you get the quarterback, right the left, 620 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: tackle the, star you know this that this is it's 621 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: a much harder job than people you're drafting twenty two 622 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: year old. Kids you go draft the receiver From, florida 623 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: one of the warm. Estates he now goes To buffalo 624 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: in a sophisticated, offense and it's, like, well how come 625 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: you're not any? 626 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: Good he's just. 627 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Young he's trying To you, know this stuff is way 628 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: harder than everybody. 629 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 8: Think get us in That eagles war room For Howie. 630 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 8: Roseman all, right let's go to the final. 631 00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: Story. 632 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 8: Coln that's The Kansas City chiefs and after The eric 633 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 8: the enemy news that he's their NEW. Oc Travis kelcey 634 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 8: was on His New heights podcast and, boy she's fans 635 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 8: desperate for anything positive our tickets of breadcrumbs that this 636 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 8: might Mean kelsey is considering RETURNING. 637 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: Eb and who he is as as a. 638 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 10: Coach you can see kind of his, personality what he 639 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 10: brings to his table in That chicago. 640 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: TEAM i can't wait to see him back in the. Building, 641 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: man He's he's one. 642 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 10: Of my favorite coaches of all, time one of my 643 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 10: favorite people of all. Time i've had so many, unbelievable you, 644 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 10: know growing moments under him as a as a, player 645 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 10: as a, person AND i just love the guy and 646 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 10: it was. 647 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: INTERESTING i can't wait to see him in the. Building 648 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: what does that? MEAN i, DON'T i. 649 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 8: DON'T i gotta be careful, here. Listen i'm a lot 650 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 8: of people Like Eric bane, ME i know a lot 651 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 8: Of chiefs. 652 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: Fans watch the. Show i'm just going to tell you 653 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: what he did since Leaving. 654 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 8: Casey so he went to The Washington commander's assistant head 655 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 8: COACH oc didn't quite work, Out, Okay then he goes 656 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 8: TO ucla same, Deal Chicago bears running backs coach this. 657 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: Season oh, well maybe he could parlay that into. Something 658 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: now he's. 659 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: Back with The. 660 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 8: CHIEFS i don't know if he's gonna be calling. 661 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: PLAYS i don't. 662 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 8: See What kelsey's so excited, about unless this is getting 663 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 8: the band back. 664 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: Together the bigger story Is kelsey sounds like he's coming. 665 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 8: Back, wow come, on he's got to say. Something he's 666 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 8: got to leave some breadcrumbs out. There so you listen 667 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 8: to his, podcast, right you gotta say. Something he can't be, Like, 668 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 8: Oh i'm planning a, wedding planning a wedding of the. 669 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 8: Year DO i Invite cowhard and MacIntire Cow coward lives 670 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 8: right near near the. 671 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: WEDDING i am very Pro Travis. KELSEY i HOPE i 672 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: get an. 673 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 5: Invite. 674 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 8: Ye by the, WAY i know someone on staff who 675 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 8: will be. GOING i don't know if my wife will love. 676 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: To go to the, date honor to go To Taylor 677 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: swift And travis' same same. 678 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: Seas, Yeah jmack with a New well. 679 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: That's the, news and thanks for stopping by the Herd line. 680 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: News Sam johnson said something yeah yesterday The bear's new, 681 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: coach and he actually was wrong and he rarely is 682 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: next to. 683 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 2: Herd be sure to catch live editions Of The herd 684 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: weekdays in Noon easter n a Em pacific On Fox 685 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: Sports RADIO fs one and The iHeartRadio. 686 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 8: App, Saturday College you tips off On fox at Noon 687 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 8: eastern As villanova takes On Alex caravan and second Ranked. 688 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 8: Yukon then at Three Keaton wagler And illinois Battle Braden 689 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 8: smith and fourth Rank. Perdue it all Begins saturday only On. 690 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: Fox so we talk a lot about culture on this. 691 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: Show is that when you're hiring a. Coach we've discussed 692 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: as many times it's your you're trying to get A. Ceo, 693 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: basically if he's great, schematically that's a, bonus but that's 694 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: not really what you're hiring the leader of. 695 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 5: Man. 696 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Culture what does culture? MEAN i don't know what it. 697 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: MEANS i do from parenting to being. Parented mostly culture 698 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: in a, house in a business starts with. Accountability don't 699 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: be a victim head. Down it's not. Perfect got to be. 700 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: Accountable and So Ben johnson said this yesterday or the day, 701 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: before AND i actually he's not wrong very, much but 702 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: he was being too. Humble he talked, about you, know 703 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: the stepping stone of having a great. Year What Ben 704 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: johnson came out to, say is we're starting from ground. 705 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: Zero nothing matters that we did last. Year it's ground, 706 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: zero none of it. Matters and that's raised wrong because 707 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: what's already been established is. Accountability and so you, know 708 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: there was a. Moment you, know he disputes whether he 709 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: yanked him off the, field but there were a couple 710 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: of moments during day one of training camp he did 711 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: tell the number one offense get off the. Field we're 712 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: not you got to get the pre snap post snap. 713 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: Stuff this can't be this. Difficult and that's. Accountability Ben 714 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: johnson's mantra has always been, good, better, best and he 715 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: just sets high. Standards to, me culture starts with accountability and. 716 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: Standards you, Know Mike frable In New england apparently walked 717 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: in and like the locker room there were like towels, 718 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: everywhere towels in the shower and he's like ring them, 719 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: out don't wash, him make the players put him in 720 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: the right. Spot just. Accountability AND i remember during the 721 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: year there was a moment where it was late in 722 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: the year and The bears were nine and three In 723 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: december and at the, Podium Ben johnson, said we're winning 724 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: in spite of our offense nine and, three and throughout 725 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: my course of being In chicago here for seven eight, 726 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: MONTHS i will get people that will come up to 727 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: me during the, season why are you so hard on The? 728 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: Bears And i'm, like have you heard the? Coach the 729 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: coach is hard on The. Bears and that's WHAT i really. 730 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate he's not. PANDERING i. Said THE nba is all 731 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: about taking care of the. Star they get offended by, 732 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: tweets like THE nfl is like it's a grown up. 733 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: League like handle the. Criticism you're on a winning. Streak 734 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: so what The bears in won nine of, ten five. 735 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: Straight they're nine and three In, december And Ben johnson's, 736 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: like we're winning in spite of our, offense and that 737 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: was Always. Belichick it's, like you, know we don't hand 738 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: out vouquets and. Flowers it's not a world of, rainbows 739 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: like we're. Not AND i will say. This Greg cosell 740 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: talked about this, earlier is that he's still the mechanics 741 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: his footworked aren't, great and a lot of it's because 742 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: he's so gifted waist, up he's got such a strong. 743 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: Arm that was always A cam Think cam's Mechanics stafford 744 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: when he was In, DETROIT i always thought had hit 745 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: and miss. Mechanics now In LA's mechanics are great because 746 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: McVeigh demands That Cam newton's McVeigh was so. Strong Big 747 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: ben in a little bit of, this you know WHAT i, 748 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: Mean like when you have that home run jet FUEL 749 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: v eight, arm your mechanics can get slot because you 750 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: can get away with so much. Stuff and that's one 751 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: of the things That Ben johnson like corrected and will work. 752 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: On it's one of the Things Greg kosell talked. About 753 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: his mechanics are. Okay that's why he's completing forty or 754 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: fifty four, percent fifty eight percent and not sixty two. 755 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Percent SO i JUST i appreciate it. That WHEN i 756 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: mean it's a one year, ANNIVERSARY i think yesterday Of 757 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: Ben johnson's, hiring and it was they were arguably that 758 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: the worst culture in the. DIVISION a year, AGO i 759 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: would argue it's the best culture because of. Standards The 760 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: lions in division settled for an offensive coordinator When ben, 761 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: left who they were comfortable with didn't have much play calling. 762 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: Experience that's not the. Standard that's not the Standard ben 763 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: set for the. Offense philadelphia offensive Coordinator Kellen moore LEAVES 764 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: i got To Nick sirianni's buddy who he's comfortable. With 765 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: that's not the. Standard so you, know as grumpy As 766 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: Kurt signetti is or As belichick, WAS i, mean you 767 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: don't See Ben johnson laughing a lot like it's hard 768 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: to force millionaires to be accountable every day at. Practice 769 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: the little stuff. Matters so when we talk about, culture 770 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: what is, IT i don't. 771 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 5: KNOW i just know. 772 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: This don't be a, victim be, accountable don't pander even 773 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: when it's always easier to criticize players when you're. Winning 774 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: when a player is, losing you're on a losing, streak 775 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: everybody's a little defensive and a little. Prickly when you're 776 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: on a five game winning, streak it is so easy 777 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: to put your arm on somebody's shoulder at the same 778 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: time you're kicking them in the, butt, saying you know, 779 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: what just some mechanics aren't good. Enough you're better than. 780 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: This SO i just. APPRECIATE i remember When Ben johnson 781 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: first day at, camp he even got prickly with The chicago. 782 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: MEDIA i didn't kick him out of, camp but he 783 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: acknowledged they weren't very. Good we took him off the. 784 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: FIELD i like. 785 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 11: It some people enjoyed me throwing the first team out of. 786 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 5: Practice not the. 787 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 11: Case we got to end up executing getting in and 788 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 11: out of the huddle a certain, way and it wasn't that. 789 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 11: Way and we're, learning we're. Growing you, know there were 790 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 11: some things from the springtime expected to carry over that 791 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 11: that was probably one we just don't have any tolerance for. 792 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 11: Anymore we got we got too far to. 793 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: GO i said this. Yesterday When Tiki barber came to 794 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: The New York, giants he had a fumble. Problem and 795 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: Then Tom kafflin arrived and he had no fumble. Problem 796 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: Kurt signettes's teams don't. Fumble belichick's teams don't. Fumble the 797 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: rams in lousy weather for AN la team went To, 798 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: chicago no, penalties no drop. Passes that's. Incredible that's. Accountability 799 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: that's coaching during the week and not letting it. HAPPEN 800 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: i always remember WHEN i was, YOUNG i don't Remember 801 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: John wooden, coaching you, KNOW i just there wasn't a 802 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: lot of college basketball ON tv WHEN i, was you, know, 803 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: young AND i don't Remember john WOULDN'T i read About 804 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: John wood in The pyramid Of. Success but one of 805 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: the THINGS i always remember About woulden WHENEVER i saw 806 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: him is he was never yelling during. Games he was 807 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: just sitting there with his. Program And i'm, like because 808 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: he was accountable during, practice you don't have to do 809 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: as much, coaching. Right Mike krzyzewski barks at the officials 810 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: all the. Time he barks at his players during. Practice during, 811 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: games he's more barking at the. Officials All, right hour 812 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: three coming. UP i can't wait for this. Weekend did 813 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: The mets sign somebody? ELSE i gotta, ask are we? 814 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: Outraged enraged on The? Mets it's so interesting to me