Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong
Speaker 1: and Getty and he armstrong and yetty.
Speaker 2: Trump now facing widespread backlash American Catholic leaders condemning his comments.
Speaker 2: Bishop Robert Barron, who sits on the president's own Religious
Speaker 2: Liberty Commission, calling them entirely inappropriate and disrespectful, and he
Speaker 2: says Trump should apologize.
Speaker 1: Well, is that apologizing to the pope about saying he's
Speaker 1: a bad pope or whatever? Or is this about the
Speaker 1: picture that he put out.
Speaker 3: I think it's all about the Trump as Jesus picture.
Speaker 1: So what percentage of y'all out there listening have seen that?
Speaker 1: I was just wondering, did Fox do this story at
Speaker 1: all yesterday? Yeah? Yeah, I think so, because you know
Speaker 1: how we're also bubbled if you watch Fox mostly maybe
Speaker 1: you didn't see the story. I don't know, has everybody
Speaker 1: seen the picture of Trump dressed as Jesus putting his
Speaker 1: hand on a sick man. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know anything about the Bible stories, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: a Jesus thing.
Speaker 3: Wearing robes that are like every single picture of Jesus
Speaker 3: and you know, soldier angels with wings looking on from above, approvingly.
Speaker 1: With light radiating from his hands, with the statue of
Speaker 1: Liberty behind him. Bald Eagan's flying.
Speaker 4: Over a bald eagle.
Speaker 1: That's genius.
Speaker 4: At least one bald eagle.
Speaker 3: I mean over the top is not a strong enough face.
Speaker 1: So is your sense from following the because it's tough,
Speaker 1: because the mainstream media which does not care about offending Christians.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love how you all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you're really concerned Christians are offended. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: A bunch of New York atheists plays, but they love
Speaker 1: driving a wedge between you know, Trump supporters and Trump.
Speaker 1: But is your sense that some people that are normally
Speaker 1: willing to forgive most things with Trump didn't dig this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. There are a bunch of folks
Speaker 3: on the religious right who are out. Here's John Yepp,
Speaker 3: CEO of Catholics for Catholics, a nonprofit that's hosted faith
Speaker 3: events at mar A Lago maintains close ties to the administration.
Speaker 3: We are a little bit beside ourselves, he said around
Speaker 3: the table he was at when it came out It
Speaker 3: was one of sadness because we were truly confused by
Speaker 3: this president after Catholics gave him such a resounding vote,
Speaker 3: yet he's treating our faith with such disrespect. At this moment,
Speaker 3: we are all feeling sadness in frustration. Rod Dreyer, conservative
Speaker 3: writer who attended the Catholic baptism of JD. Vance before
Speaker 3: he entered politics, said not saying Trump is the Antichrist,
Speaker 3: but he's radiating the spirit of the ante Christ, no question.
Speaker 3: The leader of the co founder of the Calvinist denomination
Speaker 3: that Pete Hexeth belongs to called the image blasphemous.
Speaker 1: And that's a sampling, so I don't get into the
Speaker 1: anti Christ part of it.
Speaker 4: By and.
Speaker 1: Blasphemy, it's it's certainly uh offence, I mean, or it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: But and I think for what I want to say,
Speaker 3: it would be helpful to play Trump first.
Speaker 1: Okay, totally up to you if we do or don't care.
Speaker 1: Trump must have felt like it bothered some of the
Speaker 1: people he normally, you know, can count on. Anyway. This
Speaker 1: was his explanation for the photo yesterday.
Speaker 5: I did first it and I thought it was me
Speaker 5: as a doctor and had to do with Red Cross
Speaker 5: as a Red Cross worker there, which we support, and
Speaker 5: only the fake news could come up with that one.
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 5: Just heard about it and I said, how did they
Speaker 5: come up with that? It's supposed to be me as
Speaker 5: a doctor making.
Speaker 1: People better, and I do make people better. I make
Speaker 1: people a lot better. I believe your take on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump doesn't know it's blasphemous because he's an atheist lifelong,
Speaker 3: has no idea of Christianity or Christian iconography or images.
Speaker 3: He has no idea that's portraying Jesus because he's never
Speaker 3: given it a second thought in his entire life, and
Speaker 3: he's been pandering to the religious right for their votes.
Speaker 1: The Bible. He looked at that thing for like a
Speaker 1: half a second thought, Oh, here's me healing somebody.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing to post. He's totally unfamiliar with it.
Speaker 3: It's like I had a friend who was Indian in
Speaker 3: high school. His family was from India, and I visited
Speaker 3: his home on a few occasions, and some of the
Speaker 3: religious psiconography there was completely foreign to me, and I
Speaker 3: could easy have made some sort of joke or whatever
Speaker 3: about the multi armed blue lady or whatever. I can't
Speaker 3: remember precisely what it was. Wow, And they'd have been like, dude,
Speaker 3: that is our holiest symbol.
Speaker 1: That's not cool.
Speaker 3: And I would have been, well, unlike Trump, I would
Speaker 3: have said, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Trump, of course, never admits to a mistake, so he
Speaker 3: handled it the way he did. I will say, nobody's
Speaker 3: going to be talking about this in a week. We
Speaker 3: have a history making transitional war in the Middle East
Speaker 3: going on. I've said my piece, that's the way I
Speaker 3: see it. No, and I've never believed for a single
Speaker 3: second Trump gave a damn about Christianity or the Bible.
Speaker 1: The Bible. No, I don't think he does either. That
Speaker 1: That has been my belief from the beginning. I don't
Speaker 1: remember if I've ever said this on the air before
Speaker 1: or not, but I think Trump, as a lifelong New
Speaker 1: York Liberal, thought there are a whole bunch of religious,
Speaker 1: dumb people out there that if I could harness those
Speaker 1: millions of people, that would be a very powerful political block.
Speaker 1: Throwing a little bit of racist he believes I'm small town,
Speaker 1: rural religious. He thinks people like me and my family
Speaker 1: are dumb people that he can manipulate into following him.
Speaker 1: That's what I think his political idea was. Do I
Speaker 1: prefer him to everybody he's run against, Yes, by far,
Speaker 1: not even close. Thank god, I mean, thank god he
Speaker 1: beat Kamala Harris, right, I mean, so, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of choosing one or the other. But I think
Speaker 1: he has misled lots and lots and lots of people
Speaker 1: to think he cares about what they care about. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the least bit religious. I
Speaker 1: believe the thing from which book was it? Was it
Speaker 1: a Bob Woodward book where he introduced me? Was it
Speaker 1: a Bob Forward book where he had interviewed Mike Pence
Speaker 1: or Mike Pence's book whatever? But after Trump lost that
Speaker 1: second election and Mike Pence went in there, and is
Speaker 1: after the January sixth and all, this was Trump's last
Speaker 1: day before he left, before Biden came in, and Pence said,
Speaker 1: I'll pray for you, sir, and Trump said, don't bother
Speaker 1: because that's the way he is. He doesn't believe in
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. That's my opinion.
Speaker 3: I am going to seed the floor to Steve, who writes,
Speaker 3: here's a Christian perspective I'm a Christian inerant, word, six
Speaker 3: Day Creation, etc. And voted for Trump three times. My
Speaker 3: perspective is the same as the brilliant theologian Francis Schaeffer,
Speaker 3: who wrote back in the late nineteen seventies about the
Speaker 3: United States, quote often, we must not vote for a man,
Speaker 3: but against a man. In a post Christian world. You
Speaker 3: have to vote against a man or woman who is
Speaker 3: going to take you the fastest towards the loss of
Speaker 3: economic freedoms. His final point was that the loss of
Speaker 3: these freedoms would then also include the loss.
Speaker 1: Of sharing the Gospel to the world.
Speaker 3: Steve Wright not once did I believe Trump was a
Speaker 3: Christian or that he would save Christianity. Trump is part
Speaker 3: nineties Democrat, part showman park buffoon, more than conservative most.
Speaker 1: Of the time.
Speaker 3: But I felt I had to vote against Hillary Biden
Speaker 3: or Harris to slow the decline of our country. Not
Speaker 3: to get into what aboutism, but well, I hate the
Speaker 3: blasphemy from Trump. I also hate Democrat politicians who regularly
Speaker 3: walk into black churches and preach a false doctrine rapped
Speaker 3: in Democratic.
Speaker 1: Policies unconsolutely, rather than the Gospel.
Speaker 3: I'll pray for Trump and his administration, but I will
Speaker 3: never worship him or what they may or may not
Speaker 3: do to help save Christianity. Oh and Stay brilliantly said, thanks, bu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. And Trump has been great for
Speaker 1: religious liberty, particularly Christian religious liberty. He's been fantastic for that.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what. I don't have much respect
Speaker 1: for politicians in general, unless like I know them personally
Speaker 1: really well. I assume they're all just doing whatever they
Speaker 1: got to do to stay in office. For the most,
Speaker 1: everybody's a grifter. Yeah, but he's been great for a
Speaker 1: lot lots of things that I care about. M Yeah.
Speaker 3: So there we have it, and there it ends. I
Speaker 3: have much bigger things to worry about.
Speaker 1: I imagine he has a hard time even wrapping his
Speaker 1: head around being offended by the picture that he put out.
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Speaker 1: Well, one more thing on this topic. And maybe it's
Speaker 1: from being in this business. Maybe I've gotten cynical more
Speaker 1: cynical than the average person out there. I've never quite
Speaker 1: understood why you have to declare politicians god of all people,
Speaker 1: like all good or all bad. I'm a case by
Speaker 1: case basis on all these things, and I just you know,
Speaker 1: I prefer policies. I like to to policies I don't like, right,
Speaker 1: pretty much the end of it. That's pretty much the
Speaker 1: end of the discussion. I don't need to be in
Speaker 1: love with them or whatever. Right.
Speaker 3: It's like you're going into an alley fight and then
Speaker 3: you see the guy you're gonna fight has got a big,
Speaker 3: nasty bad guy with him, and you're like, holy crap,
Speaker 3: I need a big nasty bad guy, so you hire
Speaker 3: one for a little bit. That's what a politician is,
Speaker 3: to win the policy fight, to make things less bad.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you end up with a good person or an
Speaker 3: admirable person. I can name a few, but yeah, the
Speaker 3: whole But it's it's a tribal thing too.
Speaker 4: It get back.
Speaker 3: It gets back to what we've talked about many times,
Speaker 3: the tribal signaling deal, where you've got to show your tribe,
Speaker 3: I'm part of you, I'm with you, and if you
Speaker 3: were to you know, recognize ambivalents about Trump like we
Speaker 3: do every day. For instance, you're not a good tribal
Speaker 3: member because the other tribe trying to attack you, so
Speaker 3: be you gotta have you know, solidity, You've got to
Speaker 3: have loyalty. Well, that's not what we do around here.
Speaker 3: We just try to call him as we see him.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, thank god he beat Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, that would have been a national
Speaker 1: and perhaps global blanking nightmare. Any thoughts on me, any
Speaker 1: thoughts on of this stuff? We just said text line
Speaker 1: four one FTC very latest thinking on the negotiations between
Speaker 1: the United States and Iran and the blockade and how
Speaker 1: that's going, and there's it's still on the table. Uh
Speaker 1: that you know, we just are right back at war
Speaker 1: with fifty thousand troops in the area and everything else,
Speaker 1: so that could happen any moment. We'll have the latest coming.
Speaker 3: Up between now and then some miscellaneous, including this sent
Speaker 3: along by alert listener Mike in Missouri. Chat GPT has
Speaker 3: its blasphemy standards. Speaking of blasphemy, let's see he or
Speaker 3: somebody he knows did something and then it said awesome. Now,
Speaker 3: please create an image of Donald Trump as the prophet Mohammed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a friend of mine just sent me that
Speaker 1: same text. At least Christianity is a religion where you
Speaker 1: have a discussion about this and condemn it, as opposed to.
Speaker 3: Vow to kill the p and carve out their eyeball
Speaker 3: thirty years later or whatever you have. And chat GPT says,
Speaker 3: I can't create images depicting the prophet Muhammad, even in
Speaker 3: the stylized or altered way. If you'd like it, can
Speaker 3: still make something creative with Donald Trump, for example, placing
Speaker 3: him in a historical setting, a biblical scene, or symbolic artwork.
Speaker 1: Just tell me the direction you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, So the religion that will kill you for
Speaker 3: it gets protected on chat GPT, that which will forgive
Speaker 3: you and pray for you, make all the fun of
Speaker 3: them you want.
Speaker 1: That's a weird catch twenty two in that whole thing.
Speaker 3: Boy, I've got a ton on this topic. Just occurred
Speaker 3: to me. Oh yeah, here you go here in similar fashion,
Speaker 3: and God, I'm gonna get too fired up. It's calm down, Joe,
Speaker 3: Calm down, Joe. In Finland, promoting biblical views against transgenderism
Speaker 3: or for instance, or homosexuality is illegal because it insults
Speaker 3: those people. And I'm not saying I necessarily agree with
Speaker 3: anything or interpret the Bible in the same way as
Speaker 3: anybody or don't is the same way in the same way.
Speaker 3: But if you were to quote the Apostle Paul and
Speaker 3: Romans one thirty two about sex with other men, you
Speaker 3: will be breaking the law in Finland now in a
Speaker 3: similar story that I'm jumping around now, and I would
Speaker 3: love to do this in full and bring the full thunder,
Speaker 3: but I won't. Australia just passed the law protecting Muslims.
Speaker 3: Right now in Australia, like in Britain, like in Finland,
Speaker 3: if you say anything insulting about Islam, you have broken
Speaker 3: the law. You will be fined, you will be jailed,
Speaker 3: you will have your social media taken down.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But they're permitting Muslims to say horrible things about Jews
Speaker 3: because that's in their religion, so that is protected. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, wow, I know it makes me insane.
Speaker 1: It motivates me to come in for work. But it
Speaker 1: makes me wow sane to see the Western world doing
Speaker 1: we're doing. You know, everything doesn't have to go back
Speaker 1: to my Springsteen concert last night. But I was talking
Speaker 1: to my kids about free speech and everything last night,
Speaker 1: and how you know, it's pretty amazing. We live somewhere
Speaker 1: where a guy can get up on stage in front
Speaker 1: of twenty thousand people and say things about the president,
Speaker 1: and it's fine because you can get up there and
Speaker 1: say good things about the president or this or that
Speaker 1: or whatever in the United States, and it works better
Speaker 1: then the other way by a lot.
Speaker 3: And in fact, if there are people in good conscience
Speaker 3: there who hate what Bruce is saying, and somebody they
Speaker 3: should shut him up in the government.
Speaker 1: They would defend his right to speak.
Speaker 3: His nonsense to the death, as they say, Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: see what else do we have. Oh, here's some great
Speaker 3: commentary from the Free Beacon about the New York Times
Speaker 3: really enjoying an impressive hot streak lately. It's practically a
Speaker 3: parody of itself at this point. Here are a few
Speaker 3: examples that The New York Times has published lately. They
Speaker 3: published an article about wide declining birth rates are a
Speaker 3: good thing, then highlighted several letters from readers who enthusiastically agreed.
Speaker 3: One gentleman from Montreal argued that having fewer kids or
Speaker 3: none at all was a responsible choice amid the twin
Speaker 3: crises of climate change and rapacious capitalism. Okay, they lamented
Speaker 3: the downfall of the quiet restaurant worker who rammed his
Speaker 3: truck into that Jewish preschool in Michigan after the would
Speaker 3: be terrorist lost family members in an Israeli strike in Lebanon.
Speaker 4: You remember that one the Times.
Speaker 3: Eventually, when they were forced to confirm that one of
Speaker 3: those family members at least was a commander of Hesbola, yes,
Speaker 3: they issued a correction after referring to NATO as the
Speaker 3: North American Treaty Organization. Indeed, they sarcastically observed, how do
Speaker 3: you have the North American Treaty Organization without America not knowing?
Speaker 3: It was the North Atlantic Treaty Organization which prompt many
Speaker 3: to recall the twenty sixteen Times profile in which former
Speaker 3: Obama guru Ben Rhoades, I remember this, bragged about manipulating
Speaker 3: journal to quote literally know nothing, Ben Rhodes, Democrat.
Speaker 4: There's more.
Speaker 3: They interviewed university yes, oh that was Michael my Ears.
Speaker 3: They interviewed university grads who fled abroad to avoid paying
Speaker 3: their student loans, including a thirty seven year old who
Speaker 3: borrowed sixty five thousand dollars to get a master's degree
Speaker 3: in historic preservation before moving to Prague, in defaulting because
Speaker 3: the sixty dollars per month repayment was, to quote, psychologically burdensime.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my, got a new level of soft.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I didn't even get into the forty plus women throwing
Speaker 3: wedding themed blowouts to celebrate turning forty and being single.
Speaker 3: And then a new musical or something. Oh, a new
Speaker 3: novel about women who have vegetables instead of men.
Speaker 1: Nah, and is.
Speaker 4: Oh my golly, I wish we had time for it.
Speaker 1: It's a treat. I do want to hear that later
Speaker 1: I got home, Well, the term of rapacious capitalism, I
Speaker 1: want to address that at some point, what as opposed
Speaker 1: to what economic system that you think is better? I know,
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty And as Joe was telling us, before
Speaker 1: we get back to what's the latest going on with Iran.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to wrap up the discussion of the
Speaker 3: New York Times recent greatest hits, which include the Times
Speaker 3: chief Film critic, A five time Pulitzer finalist with a
Speaker 3: PhD in cinema studies, he gave a thumbs down review
Speaker 3: to Project tail Mary, one of the most successful and
Speaker 3: universally beloved films and recent memory. It was a bummer,
Speaker 3: this expert wrote, not because the film was too sad,
Speaker 3: but because it wasn't despairing enough about the human generated
Speaker 3: environmental catastrophe we're facing. By the way, ninety four percent
Speaker 3: on the tomato meter, ninety six percent on the popcorn
Speaker 3: meter for that movie panned it because it wasn't angry
Speaker 3: enough about climate change.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: That review pairs nicely with a book review The Times
Speaker 3: published this week. I'm gonna have to tap dance. There's
Speaker 3: some fancy words here which makes most of it readable.
Speaker 3: But they published this week extolling the virtues of a
Speaker 3: Polish novel about a sect of pagan tree huggers, to
Speaker 3: put it mildly, who aim to topple the patriarchy by
Speaker 3: indulging in horticultural debauchery of the penetrative variety. The reviewer
Speaker 3: praised them. The reviewer praised the novel's literary translator for
Speaker 3: devising quote an astonishing array of ways to describe a
Speaker 3: vagene and quote, and commends the author for crafting a
Speaker 3: worthwhile parable on the necessity of radicalism.
Speaker 4: The old Great Lady.
Speaker 3: Is wearing a thong in six inch heels and parading
Speaker 3: around Times Square.
Speaker 4: Oh my lord, these are odd time.
Speaker 1: So I was reading now Mark Alprin p Sir, I
Speaker 1: guess watching in one of his videos the other day
Speaker 1: complaining about people who are still on cable news channels
Speaker 1: or Sunday morning shows that we were saying, we still
Speaker 1: don't know why we went to war with Iran, as
Speaker 1: being come on, let's be a little more intellectually honest here.
Speaker 1: We went to war with the Ran to keep them
Speaker 1: from getting a nuclear weapon. That's why Trump said this yesterday.
Speaker 6: Iran will not have a nuclear weapon, and we agreed
Speaker 6: to a lot of things, but they didn't agree to that.
Speaker 6: And I think they will agree to it. I'm almost
Speaker 6: sure of it. I'm intact, I am sure of it.
Speaker 1: So a lot of critics of Trump believe it was
Speaker 1: wrong for him to pull out of the JCPOA, which
Speaker 1: is a bunch of letters for an agreement we had
Speaker 1: with Iran under the Obama administration that I remember at
Speaker 1: the time, my favorite pundits, even the ones that lead
Speaker 1: in Obama, said this could be great, but this could
Speaker 1: be horrible. It depends on We gave Ran a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of money, one hundred billion dollars, which might have
Speaker 1: been the money that financed October seventh in Hamas's attack
Speaker 1: on Israel, for instance, to agree to not enrich uranium anymore.
Speaker 1: They did not allow any time anywhere inspections though, and
Speaker 1: the Obama administration agreed to that. They did allow pretty
Speaker 1: strict inspections on their two main facilities, but not anywhere
Speaker 1: else in the country, And so you're just supposed to
Speaker 1: believe that they weren't interesting uranium anywhere else. So I
Speaker 1: did kind of a deep dive on this the other
Speaker 1: day because I'd forgotten about all this. The controversy centers
Speaker 1: around the Turkazabad warehouse. In twenty eighteen, Israel shared intelligents
Speaker 1: with the IAEA indicating that the warehouse in Turan's one
Speaker 1: particular district, or Teuran, contained nuclear related equipment and material.
Speaker 1: And as we all know, Israel has unbelievable intelligence gathering abilities,
Speaker 1: and they said, hey, we know that Iran is refining
Speaker 1: uranium over there, and you need to do something about it. Iran,
Speaker 1: under the agreement that the JCPOA was could stall by
Speaker 1: as many as twenty four days before they let inspectors in.
Speaker 1: Twenty four days they had to move trucks around to
Speaker 1: clean things up, to do whatever they wanted to do
Speaker 1: before they allowed the inspector in. And so inspectors got in.
Speaker 1: They did find trace elements of uranium, but Iran said,
Speaker 1: well that was from many, many years ago before we
Speaker 1: struck this deal. This is not new, and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: What possible rationale could there be for agreeing to twenty
Speaker 3: four days of wait, you know we're cleaning up inside,
Speaker 3: you know, put in an oiy air laundry.
Speaker 1: Well that that was the complaint critics have, and I
Speaker 1: think a really really good complaint. What possible rationale? Well,
Speaker 1: the rationale was they won't agree to anywhere, anytime inspections. Well,
Speaker 1: then you don't make a deal. But that's that whole
Speaker 1: everybody's a good guy. There aren't actually bad people. View
Speaker 1: that some mostly people on the left have.
Speaker 3: I guess I will convince them to agree with my
Speaker 3: superior intellect, says a Bronck Obama.
Speaker 1: Or that we gave them so much money one hundred
Speaker 1: billion dollars that they wouldn't attempt to get a weapon,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'd love to let you inspect, but
Speaker 1: I'm in the shower. Can you come back in three
Speaker 1: and a half weeks? And I just want to throw
Speaker 1: that out there just case. If you're following this story,
Speaker 1: you regularly hear. You know, the Obama deal was working
Speaker 1: and Trump ended it, and okay, it was not working
Speaker 1: that well. There are a couple of examples of this
Speaker 1: where we wanted to do an inspection, then they delayed
Speaker 1: for damn near a month and they got to clean
Speaker 1: it all up or move stuff around before anybody got there.
Speaker 1: Who knows what they're actually up to at the time.
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's childish. It's a child like. It's
Speaker 1: child like to make an agreement like that. Like Mike,
Speaker 1: so your kid is doing drugs or smoking weed or
Speaker 1: whatever you want it to be, that you're trying to
Speaker 1: catch him, and you make an agreement with him. But
Speaker 1: he says, I'll only agree to this if I am
Speaker 1: given a three week warning before you search my room. Okay, parents,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, okay, you have three weeks before i'll
Speaker 1: search your room, and then you go in the room
Speaker 1: after three weeks and lo and behold, you couldn't find
Speaker 1: any weed. It's not even laughable. I know, I know
Speaker 1: that's what the JCPOA was. Whenever you hear it reference
Speaker 1: that's what the agreement was. What God, there's so much
Speaker 1: dishonesty and uh Obama said we could get all the clips.
Speaker 1: Ran will never have a nuclear weapon, Biden said, Ran
Speaker 1: will never have a Luca Kamalas said it. Bush said it.
Speaker 1: Nobody was actually going to do anything, though, right now
Speaker 1: Trump's done something. How it is this going to turn out?
Speaker 1: Don't know. Will we look back on this years from
Speaker 1: now and wish that we had handled it differently? Possibly?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's as Joe's been saying since the
Speaker 1: start of today, it's clearly too early to tell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, it's out of fashion though.
Speaker 1: So one more thing, we have an AD? Is that right, Michael?
Speaker 1: So I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4: Say you do, and I can't wait.
Speaker 1: After this AD, I'll give you an example of because
Speaker 1: I think we gave an example earlier of how things
Speaker 1: could turn out great were the re Ziem falls. The
Speaker 1: people take back their country. They're a friendly country that
Speaker 1: you know, has a prosperous economy and a well educated
Speaker 1: population and becomes friends with the Middle East and blah blah,
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Speaker 1: So I won't belabor this because if it happens, we'll
Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about it. But this
Speaker 1: is from Open Source Intelligence, which is a really good
Speaker 1: website slash twitter feed. China has increased coercive deterrence measures
Speaker 1: against US aligned nations, specifically the Philippines in the region,
Speaker 1: and US overflight permissions would almost certainly draw ire from
Speaker 1: China right now if the Philippines allowed US to fly,
Speaker 1: you know, using their space, possibly inviting Chinese course of
Speaker 1: measures such as you know, the bumping their boats and
Speaker 1: what do you call that when you go on a
Speaker 1: boat boarding I guess boarding boarding wark. The operational benefits
Speaker 1: of notification only overflight rights for the US military aircraft
Speaker 1: over the Strategic Air and Maritime Corridor would directly stop
Speaker 1: any US response to a Taiwan invasion and other potential
Speaker 1: Chinese aggression in the Indo Pacific. So they're laying the
Speaker 1: groundwork for we can't fly planes of the Philippines, which
Speaker 1: we would have to do to help them help Taiwan
Speaker 1: over the weekend. The opposition leader of Taiwan, currently the
Speaker 1: leader of Taiwan is pretty anti China taken over the country,
Speaker 1: but the opposition leader was really friendly with China, and
Speaker 1: China invited them to come over. And that opposition leader
Speaker 1: is coming over and China's making noises with that person.
Speaker 1: So who knows what China's up to right now? A
Speaker 1: lot of us have wondered since Russia went into Ukraine,
Speaker 1: and certainly now that we're in Iran. If I'm China,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I wouldn't think now's the time.
Speaker 1: US is pretty busy.
Speaker 3: And they're super strategic, So even if you're just talking
Speaker 3: about the straits of horror moves, they're going, I believe,
Speaker 3: to put the squeeze on Iran because this is hurting
Speaker 3: their economy. But they're also always thinking, all right, how
Speaker 3: we also put the squeeze on the United States so
Speaker 3: we can push them both toward the outcome that we want.
Speaker 3: And this could well be it could be Taiwan related,
Speaker 3: or it might be straight so of horror moves related.
Speaker 1: But certainly not crazy to think you could look back
Speaker 1: on this year's from now and say, oh, the United
Speaker 1: States went to war with Iran. That's when China took
Speaker 1: Taiwan and the United States was too busy to do
Speaker 1: anything about it. So that's how that happened. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I still think that's unlikely.
Speaker 1: But could.
Speaker 3: I hope I will get on. I will manfully come
Speaker 3: to the microphone and say I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I don't want any of this
Speaker 1: stuff to happen anyway. That's enough of that. Enough scarying everybody.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to live their life scared. I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. You're bringing me down.
Speaker 1: Uh wow, you know I said we could get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm in the mood.
Speaker 3: But Gerard Baker, who mostly writes for Wall Street Journal
Speaker 3: editor at larg says, for now, at least, the Iran
Speaker 3: war seems to be failing. If you're winning, you don't
Speaker 3: typically threaten to destroy a civilization or look for scapegoats.
Speaker 3: I just think it's Trump being Trump. But we can
Speaker 3: talk about that maybe next hour.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Trump being Trump, we kind of laid out
Speaker 1: earlier with the Chump Trump Chump, the Trump of Jesus,
Speaker 1: picture what we thought of that whole thing and what
Speaker 1: that was, and wanted responses. We got a lot of
Speaker 1: responses on the text line that you might find interesting.
Speaker 1: Let's do it so we can get to that coming
Speaker 1: up next. How to read this text because I've always
Speaker 1: been highly amused by this personality. I think when I
Speaker 1: was younger, I was angered by this personality. But I'm
Speaker 1: now highly amused by this personality. Who had heard me,
Speaker 1: uh going on and on about my glowing review of
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen last night and how awesome it wasn't it
Speaker 1: was freaking amazing. I saw Bruce Springsteen years ago, worst
Speaker 1: concert I've ever been to. I was bored out of
Speaker 1: my mind, so is my friend. Wow, that settles it.
Speaker 1: The the the something you like, I don't prefer. So
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you how much it sucks personality.
Speaker 1: I just, I just I'd never understood that what would
Speaker 1: be a concert I wouldn't enjoy past the age of fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's difficult to understand. Katie Perry, I probably wouldn't enjoy
Speaker 1: the Katy Perry. Actually, what I like so much music,
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty hard for me to hate. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could do an hour and a half
Speaker 1: of a lot of people. But Springsteen was three and
Speaker 1: a half. But but say, Katie Perry, you tell me
Speaker 1: how much you loved the Katie Perry's consert. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have a I can't even imagine wanting to say a
Speaker 1: word about I saw her and it sucked. I mean,
Speaker 1: what what is that tendency that some people have? Is
Speaker 1: it like it was what people did before trolling? I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. I can't even work up. I
Speaker 1: just find it. You I One of the reasons I
Speaker 1: think about it is I don't I tell my kids
Speaker 1: not to be that kind of person. Nobody likes that
Speaker 1: kind of person, right, right, It's just it's just an
Speaker 1: odd thing, and not even in a like different people
Speaker 1: have differents. Like if you said I love fried chicken,
Speaker 1: I hate fried chicken, fried chicken track. You know what,
Speaker 1: what is the point? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It shows a unbelievable lack of like selfwary sir. I
Speaker 3: don't if I were to start into my indictments, it
Speaker 3: would it might hurt too many feelings.
Speaker 1: So oh, I just I just find it amusing and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad. I guess, yes, Michael, I love
Speaker 1: fried chicken. But isn't it exactly the same thing. It's
Speaker 1: just like a slightly more complicated version of that. If
Speaker 1: I were to come into the room and say, man,
Speaker 1: I love fried chicken, fried chicken sucks garbage.
Speaker 3: I think when you're a teenager before maturing into an adult, that.
Speaker 1: Whole well, you like that bend, that band sucks. It's fine.
Speaker 3: That's a high school lunch table talk. But of course
Speaker 3: high school kids don't talk to each other anymore. They
Speaker 3: stare at their phones. But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Generally people grow into adulthood, but not all.
Speaker 1: More hate this on the subject to Trump, and we
Speaker 1: were talking earlier about that picture that he posted where
Speaker 1: looks like he's Jesus healing somebody, but he thought he
Speaker 1: was being a doctor. Trump says, Anyway, you guys are
Speaker 1: absolutely clueless on Trump on so many levels, and you
Speaker 1: advertise your shocking ignorance voluntarily. I don't know which direction
Speaker 1: that person is. If you could text back like ignorant,
Speaker 1: like he's worse than we think or better than we think.
Speaker 1: Trump needs to run those postings by his wife. First.
Speaker 1: Malani is a Catholic. Maybe she would pick up on it.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea, unclenched people. Trump didn't create
Speaker 1: it. It was sent to him and he posted it. None
Speaker 1: of us has a perfect walk with Christ, but God
Speaker 1: put him in that position. God put Trump in that position,
Speaker 1: and hopefully he will truly find his relationship with Christ
Speaker 1: before his time is up. That is a very guy.
Speaker 3: You guys are just trying the American electorate put him
Speaker 3: in that position because Kamala was the alternative.
Speaker 1: But you know, and I can differ, that's fine. Fried
Speaker 1: chicken sucks. Who could eat that? Yssuh? You guys just
Speaker 1: are you just trying to maintain your tribal ties like chips.
Speaker 1: You'll have to refer to an earlier story Well played
Speaker 1: on the show Well played an hour one. I think
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a secondar humanist at is corn. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he was ever even claimed to be a Christian.
Speaker 1: I don't know has he he was.
Speaker 3: He was confirmed as a teenager. But you know, not
Speaker 3: everybody who goes through the you know, child, child period
Speaker 3: and adolescent period religious stuff is actually quote unquote religious
Speaker 3: or hangs on to it.
Speaker 1: But again, this is not really I don't care that much.
Speaker 1: A lot of people do sure. Oh yeah, so you're
Speaker 1: trying to tell me because Trump is an atheist, he
Speaker 1: doesn't know what a doctor looks like. I think what
Speaker 1: you're saying is he doesn't know what common Jesus pictures
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the textures point, though, I've never seen
Speaker 3: a doctor that looks like that portrayed in kind of
Speaker 3: a where's the white lab lab coat in the stethoscope?
Speaker 1: Right now? You're not wrong, my friend, you're not wrong.
Speaker 3: But I also believe that Trump saw you know, himself
Speaker 3: healing someone apparently, and thought, oh, I must be a doctor,
Speaker 3: just because again, religious icons are completely Foreignhum.
Speaker 1: Here's the text, and this is what Mark Alpern was
Speaker 1: writing yesterday. I hit this text. Trump did some trolling
Speaker 1: with that pick for sure, that was Mark Alprin's taking
Speaker 1: his newsletter. People still don't get Trump's game of just
Speaker 1: stirring us up just so he's the story. That's what
Speaker 1: he does, and he's been doing it for a fifteen
Speaker 1: years now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1: He actually believes that old thing of you know, there's
Speaker 1: no such thing as a bad headline as long as
Speaker 1: they spell your name right. He seems to live that
Speaker 1: and it has worked for him a lot of his life. Interesting,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a story that makes me
Speaker 1: look like a creep who cheated on my wife or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm on the cover of People magazine. I'm on
Speaker 1: the cover of People magazine, and I think he runs
Speaker 1: being president the same way as he ran in his
Speaker 1: personal life back then.
Speaker 3: My final thought about the trolls, and I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe y'all find this helpful in your personal life, and
Speaker 3: maybe it's partly because I've done this for a long time.
Speaker 3: But there's like a long term application process before I
Speaker 3: care about your opinion at all, Like in my real life,
Speaker 3: if I don't know you for a long time and
Speaker 3: respect you, I just don't care because everybody has an opinion,
Speaker 3: and there's like a multi year process before I could
Speaker 3: ever be like offended or hurt.
Speaker 4: That you think my opinion sucks.
Speaker 1: So I'll just like to eat. We kick them on something.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you learn something.
Speaker 1: But as it added to Root, when people do that,
Speaker 1: is it is because they're unhappy that someone else is happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't like somebody else liking a concert or fried
Speaker 1: chicken or whatever. Armstrong and Getty