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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Coral Reef Madness,

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Speaker 1: from how reefs can begin, from the tenious microscopic grain

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Speaker 1: of living rights to the bleaching that threatens our reefs

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Speaker 1: and what we can do about it. Will also discover

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Speaker 1: some of the fascinating inhabitants of reefs, including some little

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Speaker 1: dudes who wear living boxing gloves. Discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question can you go

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Speaker 1: through life with only one whole? Joining me today our

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Speaker 1: podcasting legends and hosts of My Brother, My Brother and Me,

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Speaker 1: as well as the adventure Zone ether Ce, Justin Travis,

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Speaker 1: and Griffin McElroy. Welcome you guys us. Yeah, they so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on. I am a big fan of

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Speaker 1: ether C As someone who loves marine biology, I am

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Speaker 1: super impressed with how you guys incorporate marine biology into

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Speaker 1: the show. That's very nice to hear considering just how

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Speaker 1: little research work went into that particular. It was mostly

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Speaker 1: me looking at pictures of deep deep sea creatures and

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Speaker 1: saying that looks cool, But I refuse to learn anything

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Speaker 1: else about it aside from just that. But the extent

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Speaker 1: of my research is watching the Anything, where David Attenborough

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Speaker 1: talks about weird fish that light up deep down onto

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Speaker 1: the Look at this guy, this one, this one's real weird.

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Speaker 1: That's really good. Is David Attenborough here, sir, justin tuing

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Speaker 1: some kind of like cockney David Attenborough, And I don't

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Speaker 1: understand from it's this is fish, wouldn't it? Friends, Well,

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Speaker 1: whatever you did, I really appreciated it. I really loved

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Speaker 1: the giant flatworms wonderful and of course the hero zooks

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Speaker 1: uh a being made of coral and symbiotic creatures and

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Speaker 1: just the whole underwater environment. It's such a wonderful story.

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Speaker 1: And it inspired me to do a whole episode about

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Speaker 1: coral reefs because I think they're one of the coolest

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Speaker 1: things on planet Earth. They're one of those things that

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Speaker 1: as Dad actually knows more about coral having sort of

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Speaker 1: just kind of a wild thing. Coral colonies are. It's inspiring.

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Speaker 1: If only us humans could get it together as much

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Speaker 1: as they they have. It's so rad when you first

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Speaker 1: someone's like, that's alive, and you're like, okay, yeah, right, sure,

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Speaker 1: in the same way that trees are alive. I know

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Speaker 1: what alive is. Like, come on, does it eat chips? No? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is it moved by the music of Carly Ray Jebson,

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Speaker 1: then we know it's not alive. Yeah. No, If it

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Speaker 1: doesn't like Tacki's dust off its fingers, it's not alive.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Wait, hold on, Justin you said that with

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Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. Do you know that coral isn't

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Speaker 1: moved by the music of Carl Ray Jepson. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen coral dance? Well? No, but I don't like

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Speaker 1: to dance, said, there you have it, And here comes

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Speaker 1: Katie with the first coral fact. It does dance. But

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Speaker 1: maybe the first fact coral is very shy, very embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: It's stage fright, okay, always looking at its little coral

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Speaker 1: feet mom, uh, doing that dance you do and you

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Speaker 1: don't really want to dance exactly. But yes, it is

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Speaker 1: stage of its life. So coral are nidarians. They're related

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Speaker 1: to jellyfish and see an enemy. Uh. So the way

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Speaker 1: coral reefs form is it starts out as a free

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Speaker 1: swimming larva. So it swims around like a little tiny

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Speaker 1: grain of living rice. Uh. And it's scoots. It's very cute.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of scoots around. It has a bunch

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Speaker 1: best way to do it. I'm looking at a picture

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Speaker 1: of one here you've included. It does look like just

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Speaker 1: a doctor shoals like gel insert that somebody has thrown

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Speaker 1: this is not a gel insert? I mean, I am

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Speaker 1: I would it would be nice if we could just

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Speaker 1: harvest ergonomic inserts from the ocean. Y. Yeah, that's much

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Speaker 1: more sustainable. It would be back to the sea where

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Speaker 1: Um no, but they're tiny. The brand, isn't it? There

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Speaker 1: is there? It is? We killed a million of these

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Speaker 1: they're walking on clouds worth it? Yes, So coral larva

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Speaker 1: is called a planula, and they swam around but first,

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Speaker 1: about evolution of animals, right, so there's no way they

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Speaker 1: started off swimming butt first, like there had to be.

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Speaker 1: They were all swiming face first, and then why don't

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Speaker 1: what Jerry's doing, He's got have have we tried swimming

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Speaker 1: I mean if you think about their intention, right is

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Speaker 1: So so they like surfaces that have already been inhabited

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Speaker 1: they have latched onto its new home, the planiela undergoes metamorphosis,

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Speaker 1: turning into a polyp, which is the best. I love

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Speaker 1: the biological terms that just melt in your mouth, like polyp.

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Speaker 1: I don't love that melt in my mouth. But I

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Speaker 1: also him not like an animal expert, So maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a different sort of metric for for what is

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Speaker 1: phonetically pleasing for me? Paul paulp conjures up an unpleasant

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Speaker 1: that's no matter what. Proboscus is great. Proboscus is fun

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Speaker 1: polyps take many different shapes. Generally they look like little mushrooms,

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Speaker 1: anchored itself to the rock. Uh, and it quickly starts

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Speaker 1: to reproduce by butting. So I want you guys to

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Speaker 1: that's a huge assumption, Katie. Yeah, just the one of

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Speaker 1: sort of uh you know, visually horrifying. Yeah, me better

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Speaker 1: a problem problem. Thank you, Travis New me's better keep

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Speaker 1: me his hands off. My wife's yeah, are you I lost?

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Speaker 1: You can have her mud Where copies getting worse, they

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Speaker 1: just get more aquatic. Okay, but Multiple City would have

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Speaker 1: better versions of ourselves. So it is through this process

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Speaker 1: these a million times over. Well, it came. The first

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Speaker 1: it was made up. I worried that that was that

425
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: that was made up, but hey, I'm glad that we

426
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of science is made up until you

427
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: can prove it's true. Griffin's science, you make it up

428
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: and you say it enough times until people start to

429
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: believe it. That's yes on this scientifically accurate program. I'd

430
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: like to say that this is how science works. So

431
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: uh So, this year, actually the Great Barrier Reef experienced

432
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: yet another mass bleaching event, affecting up to six of

433
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: the reef due to rising temperatures UM. But the heat

434
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: wave ended soon enough, and actually the Great Berry Reef

435
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: is undergoing one of the most impressive revive in like

436
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: over thirty years, which is really heartening. I think it's

437
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: really really important for people to know that it is

438
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: definitely not too late. You hear all of this news

439
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: about the environment being in danger, and it's very true,

440
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: it's very important to listen to. But I think people

441
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: get this kind of like do me, feeling like there's

442
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: nothing we can do at this point. The reefs are dead,

443
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: We're doomed. It's like, no, the barrier reef underwent this

444
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: horrific bleaching and now is reviving back in an astounding way.

445
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean we can relax, because of course, if like

446
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: we continue on the path of global warming pollution. I

447
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: don't know, uh, sunscreen, that is bad. Like, there's so

448
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: many things that end up happening, Like you use the

449
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: wrong snorkel and then you kill off an exotic fish.

450
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: I even worry about it, you know what I mean.

451
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I don't think that's the take away.

452
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't think if you don't, you know, I don't.

453
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that that, Um, I'm really

454
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: sorry that I have to make this show. I think

455
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: that that is a really impressive revival and second only

456
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: to the revival of swing music in the late nineties. Okay,

457
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the most impressive revival since

458
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: Funny Girl. But then I realized that that was in

459
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: the news and I don't know why, so maybe I

460
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that either. I don't know why that either.

461
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: I was also gonna say banjo music at first, in

462
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: like the two thousands, and that I thought, Yeah, I

463
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: thought swing music would be more applicable. I don't want

464
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: to go behind the bit anymore. I will actually hear

465
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: more about coral, so uh, to be clear, justin I

466
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: would say that we learned from if we learned from

467
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: our mistakes, like, hey, sunscreen is actually super bad for coral.

468
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: You actually see no sunscreen. That's like, hey, we fixed it.

469
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: It's not so bad anymore. So you can go out

470
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: and not get skin cancer but also not kill coral.

471
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: So we can actually learn and then we fix things

472
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: and it's definitely not too late. Coral can revive, it

473
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: can make a comeback, and so there are also other

474
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: really fun things that people can do to help coral reefs.

475
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And these are things that I think are It's really

476
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: nice because it's like on an individual level, we often

477
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: feel like like, uh, like, yes, we want global warming

478
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: to stop, we want to save the environment, but what

479
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: can I do as a person. It's hard to conceptualize

480
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: what you can do as an individual, but there are

481
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: a lot of really interesting coral revival projects that people

482
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: can join. So you can replant coral uh and volunteers

483
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: in coral nurseries can grow coral saplings. And then if

484
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: you enjoy snorkeling or scuba diving, you can you're shaking

485
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: your head. I don't belong down there. That's not my place.

486
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: I breathe the air, Katie, I've belong up here's safe.

487
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't make a fish come up here. Why would

488
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: I go down there? Well, there's actually stuff that people

489
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: who don't like the water can do, so like you

490
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: can either do snorkeling and like replant things. You can

491
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: even do surveys, like if you enjoy snorkeling recreationally or

492
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: scooba diving recreationally, you can make surveys of coral reefs.

493
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: But if you like to stay on land, I actually

494
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: agree with you. I get a little freaked out with

495
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: the water. Um. You can build things like coral trees,

496
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: which are like these. They're these weird, sort of very

497
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: dystoping looking metal pronged trees, but these are used as

498
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: structures for coral to grow on, and they like basically

499
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: put them under the water, like these weird post industrial

500
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Christmas trees and hang like pieces of coral off of it,

501
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and it's like okay, you go now, and eventually the

502
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: coral will grow over this metal frame. And it's but

503
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: it's great because like people can just do that and

504
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: build that in case, in case we have some over

505
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: zealous listeners, that's probably something you should arrange with someone

506
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: before hammering. You shouldn't just like make like eighteen weird

507
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: metal trees and then start calling people like, all right,

508
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: who puts these in the ocean? For me, that's probably

509
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: a good good call. But I you know, you, you

510
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: do you. I'm not going to say not to build

511
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of weird metal trees. Just know that you

512
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: may want to have a plan afterwards. Possibly. Yeah. I mean,

513
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: it's an amazing kind of thing. It's like people are

514
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: just like, hey, we can actually regrow stuff. And actually,

515
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned earlier sinking things that has been done

516
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot um the off the Gulf of Mexico. They

517
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: sunk an entire aircraft carrier that has been dubbed the

518
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Great Carrier REEF oh, I know. Imagine the one guy

519
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: who got to clean out his bunk and he's like

520
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: just one earbud left down there, just words. And it

521
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: was also done in Florida with an old missile tracking ship. Um.

522
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: It was done off the coast of Thailand with decommissioned

523
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: tanks and Turkey uh sunk an airbus plane off the

524
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Aegean coast. So it's it's super satisfying to me when

525
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: they like sink military equipment and it's like, it's the

526
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: corals now you have it. Yeah, the Coral fight over it,

527
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 1: unless unless the Coral knows what they have now with

528
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: all those things. You know what I'm saying. Listen, now,

529
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: this is okay to book end it. We started it

530
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: talking about why isn't coral everywhere? And then Katie's like,

531
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: coral can come back, but let's not get to cozy

532
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: with the idea of coral coming back super hard. We

533
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: need to keep it in balance, you know what I mean.

534
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: We don't want too much coral because now they've got tanks,

535
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: now they've got airplanes, now they've got aircraft carriers. It's terrified, y'all.

536
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Feel like the next great horror movie is like right

537
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: there right, like Coral decides like that's enough, I've had enough. Well,

538
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: I feel like we've Mushroom zombies are really hot right now,

539
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: So I think coral zombies is the next, the next

540
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: big thing. I like that, just like coral coming out

541
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: of your eyeballs and like I I want to I

542
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: don't like Katie, why do you like that? I mean

543
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: it's the same reason I like the word polop. I

544
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: guess broken, deeply, deeply, immeasurably emotionally broken, welcome, welcome forward.

545
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's uh, I mean, it's the swords

546
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: and the plowshares kind of thing with these sunken military

547
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: equipment or like swords into reef reef shares. We can

548
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: move on because this joke sounds too smart for risk.

549
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know the original, so I didn't definitely didn't

550
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: get the bungeline. Yeah, it's something that I heard. I

551
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: was like, this will sound good and smart, but uh, well,

552
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: thank you. It worked. Yeah, so this has actually been

553
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: done for a real long time. In ancient times, Persians

554
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: built an underwater defensive wall against Arabian pirates by building

555
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: an artificial reef for the boats to break upon. And

556
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: in seventeenth century Japan fishermen would create artificial reefs to

557
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: grow help and increase fish yields. So yeah, we've been

558
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: sort of engine like engineering coral reefs for a real

559
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: long time. My favorite now And occasionally I'll see like

560
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: people will put like statues, sink statues to like give

561
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: coral place to grow, and then other people like throughout

562
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, read it in the Internet, will be like

563
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: it's proof of ancient civilizations and it's time like that

564
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: was put there in like two thousand sixteen. What are

565
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: you talking about. It's like a coral chia pet. That's

566
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: also it's like get a Homer head down there, put play, Yeah,

567
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: like a Marge head, put some Aquaman three. It will

568
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: be a really good tie in for the But a

569
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: big Jason Momoa down there. Ah yeah, now that I

570
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: love that. Now I want one, But not just because

571
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: it's Jason Momoa, but you know, coral chia pets. So uh.

572
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: We also have a way to draw visitors to these

573
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: new coral reef settlements because one of the things that's

574
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: important is like we just we put a thing down

575
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: in the ocean, right and we're like, hey, it's a

576
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: new home for you guys, and then the fish are like,

577
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: what what do you mean? Like, okay, I don't really

578
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. So we have to make

579
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: it seem already lived in, you know how, like when

580
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: you go to an open house in the realtor like

581
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: bakes cookies and like, you know, it's yeah, yeah, Like

582
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: here's the crumpled magazine in the bathroom. Mah, could you

583
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: imagine yourself having this magazine. They do that with coral reefs,

584
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: so they will actually play the sounds of a healthy

585
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: and thriving coral reef to attract fish to it and

586
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: other coral reef inhabitants, uh, so that they don't feel

587
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: like they're going to a ghost town even if they are,

588
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: which is like I guess if a restaurant played like

589
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: the sounds of happy, chattering patrons and you go in

590
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: there and it's like a little weird because everyone's like

591
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: there's just these mannequins everywhere, but it sounds like everyone's happy.

592
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I think it's really nice that you said that that

593
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: would be a little weird, Okay. I think that's very

594
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: forgiving of the ownership of that restaurant that if they

595
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: blasted sounds of happy people eating, and I walked in

596
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: and it was full of mannequins. But I would think

597
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: this is a little weird, yea four stars a little weird,

598
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: little weird for a little weird. But they did mention

599
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: the word poll up quite a few times. Yeah, and

600
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: what a brusquet. Sorry one more time, Katie, what was

601
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: that noise? Well, here it is. Here is the noise

602
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: of a healthy and thriving Uh oh, sorry, so paulop

603
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: is on a monto poetic. It's what you're telling me.

604
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: All that crackling sound are shrimp clicking. There a little

605
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: clause and then various fish making calls. Because we think

606
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: of them as being silent. It's just we can't really

607
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: hear them with our bad not water ears. I don't

608
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: know that I would describe my ears as bad just

609
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: because they can't hear coral underwater. I think that's setting

610
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: an awfully high bar for hold on, Can you guys

611
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: not hear the sound of coral underwater? I hear it

612
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: all the time. Is that not what's wrong with me? Well,

613
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: so that is the sound that they play to these fish,

614
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: and it actually is apparently effective for fish. They're like, hey, yeah,

615
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a party going on and they

616
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: go over there and they hang out. Well, yeah, fish

617
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: are dumb. I mean as long as they're highlighting which

618
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: features are in are not intelligent? Fish are up there, man,

619
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean on a sliding scale, i'd say, like, they're

620
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: not the dumbest. Well, no, that's polyps. Yeah, that's true enough.

621
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: So when we get back, we're going to talk about

622
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: some of the most interesting inhabitants of world reefs, my favorites. Uh,

623
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: and then we'll end with a little game. So we

624
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: are back and I want to talk to you guys

625
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: about some of my favorite inhabitants of the coral reefs,

626
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: Like a funny neighbor, or like that teacher that you know, like, oh,

627
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: they believe in you. That kind of thing. Neighbors that

628
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: believe in you. I don't know, the neighbors don't the

629
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: teacher believes in your neighborries a little nosy. I see

630
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: the nosy neighbors, the teacher who believes in you. It's

631
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: more about crabs though, actually crabs, I know crabs are good. Uh.

632
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: So there's this is my favorite example of symbiosis. I

633
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: think in the entire world. It is the boxer crab

634
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: a k a. Pomp pomp crabs. You know, pompom crabs.

635
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: They are little guys about the size of a quarter,

636
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: very colorful, very beautiful, like they have these like orange

637
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: and red stripes and little white speckles. Are beautiful, and

638
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: they got little pom pomps on their arms, like little

639
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: little pomp pomp boxing gloves. I would say those are

640
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: two different things, by the way, Like if I see

641
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: a cheerleader with like pom poms, I'm not like, oh,

642
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: they're about to punch someone. These ones are though. It's

643
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: like combination cheerleader boxer, which actually sounds kind of good,

644
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: like combination cheerleader boxer. The pop the pomp pomps on

645
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: this creature that you have sent us about a thousand

646
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: images of. I enjoy the eyes that look like the

647
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: devil's eyes. I are less hot for me and where

648
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm at in my life. They do seem like a boy.

649
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: They do seem like an enemy that you would fight

650
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: on a beach in like a Japanese role playing game. Yeah,

651
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: like a little cutie that I want a stuffed animal for.

652
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: It looks at some point it was nicer and then

653
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: it got corrupted. He's just a frustrated little guy who

654
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: wants to stay away from his little venomous boxing gloves. So, uh,

655
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: those little boxing gloves are actually seeing enemies. Get out.

656
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I don't want to leave. It's my house.

657
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: But yeah it is. These are little sea an enemies

658
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: that it has put on a hook on each of

659
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: its little front legs. Uh, and they wave them around

660
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: to scare off predators. And because they're seeing enemies, they

661
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: actually do pack a toxic punch that they can use

662
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: to you know, like yeah, jab people there, you go.

663
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah for good for him, I know like this. They

664
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: are indifferent to this happening, so it is interesting because

665
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: they don't. It's not totally bad for them because the

666
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: boxer crabs actually will also use the seen enemies to

667
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: like scoop up food and eat it. But then as

668
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: the boxer crab is eating, little pieces of food fall

669
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: back down onto the CNN and so the enemy is

670
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: still get to eat like the crumbs from the crab.

671
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: It also is one of the only known instances of

672
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: an unrelated species of animal helping another species with a

673
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: sexual reproduction because a boxer creb wile usually find one

674
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: enemy be like this is about good and right, and

675
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: then rips it in half and then wears each half

676
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: on its hands. And then now it's to sen enemies. Okay,

677
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: you're going to is such a good word to use.

678
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: It helps I ripping it in half. I thought you

679
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: were going to say that he like has like well

680
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: like ham puppets. He's like, now, kids, let me rub

681
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: these two together, smoosh them together. Uh no, no, no,

682
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: he violently rips it in half. But then enemy is okay, yeah,

683
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: like a good helper. Yeah yeah, so um so now

684
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: now there's two c N enemies, so it actually in

685
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: effect creates larger c N enemy populations that does live

686
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: on its arms though, So that's it's just I think

687
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: that's fun and cool. That's amazing. Yeah, it's really good.

688
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: It's fun for us, and I bet for the crab.

689
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I imagine the ripping part is not then enemy's favorite,

690
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: but it is comfort. There's but yeah, it might prefer

691
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: slightly different technique. I'm not really sure. But you know,

692
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: if someone ripped me in half and then I turned

693
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: into two griffins, I don't think i'd be like thanks.

694
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: That was fun and cool. It's like I to think

695
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: about this a lot more than you would think I do.

696
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: But like if I did, I mean, obviously the ripping

697
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: in half isn't a great thing, but if I did

698
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: have a second me, it's like my first instinct is like, great,

699
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: you can do this work for me, and then but

700
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: then I'm sure I would also say back to me like, well, no,

701
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: you do it so well unless that work is punching

702
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: other fish. Think that that's going to help in this situation.

703
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Katie's that's too that's two button mouths to feed just

704
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: the one job, but one income. Yeah, boss is gonna

705
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: expect your boss is gonna expect you to double your

706
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: productivity to like, that's just not the way that that

707
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: the that the that the economy works. Unfortunately, these boss

708
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: crabs and their capitalism. But the good news is that

709
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: there are scientific diagrams of these little crabs, and there's

710
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: no like they have tried, I'm sure, but there's literally

711
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: no way for a scientist to draw a diagram of

712
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: a boxing crab without making it look like a cheer routine,

713
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: uh choreography. It really does look like bring it on,

714
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Deep Sea edition. They can't not do it. It's so good.

715
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: So my other favorite inhabitants of the coral reef are

716
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: the cleaner rass fish, not cleaner ass. Cleaner rass, yeah,

717
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: they go see Dr Clemens for the clean eating um bleaching. Yes, yes,

718
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: uh so the cleaner rass are fish auto body detailing services.

719
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: So they are vibrant little fish species who live in

720
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: coral reef communities and run car washes for fish. They

721
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: clean parasites off of fish's skin, and the fish literally

722
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: line up to get cleaned by these little cleaner rasses.

723
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: It's so good and it actually creates this tiny economy

724
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: because some cleaner rass like to cheat their clients by

725
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: like instead of just like picking off parasites, like actually

726
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: eating a little there, they have this like protective mucous

727
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: membrane which is apparently delicious, uh, and so they like

728
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: to bite little pieces off. But if they do that,

729
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: they get a bad review and that fish will boycott them.

730
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: And so uh, not only will they get boycott by

731
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: the client fish, but other cleaner rass if they see

732
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: you like skimming a little bit of mucus off the top,

733
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: they will also punish you because they don't want to

734
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: lose clients. What the cleaner rass fish has like a

735
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: four point five star rating, everyone knows like and they

736
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: will chomp. Is that like? Is for like? Does it

737
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: have to be five stars for a restaurant to not like?

738
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Like if your uber passenger rating drops to like a

739
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: four point five, the drivers know that there was at

740
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: least one time where you were a real dirt bag

741
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: and that that nobody's gonna risk picking you up. Then

742
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: one time you nibbled on them. You don't want to

743
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: nibble on your I am. It doesn't seem like that

744
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: should be worth a one star review, but apparently it is.

745
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: Um Also, cleaner rass will try to make it up

746
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: to their clients if they've been piste off by giving

747
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: them a little free massage, like, hey, you know, sorry

748
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: about that, sorry about nibbling on you, but you know

749
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: what about this behind the shoulders behind I don't think

750
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: fish have shoulders behind the fins. I've only had the

751
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: fish pedicure. I forget what the fish the doctor fish

752
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: name that they have at certain places where they come

753
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: and they eat the dead skin off your feet that

754
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: I have and it is surprisingly delightful, really tickles like

755
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: the dickens. But at the end of it, I looked

756
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: at my beautiful exfoliated feet and said, I would do

757
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: I would I would do this again. I would give

758
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: these fish five stars that have a griffin. Were you

759
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: worried that they might develop a taste for you, come

760
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: find you? It was. It was at a like a

761
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: spa in Japan, and I was worried about how much

762
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: giggling I was doing, and part of the other patrons,

763
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: who definitely were not giggling, I thought they knew something

764
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: I did not, um but I think everybody was just

765
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: much more hestoic and not quite as tickling, said an

766
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: impolite to the fish. They were used to it. Yes, yeah,

767
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: the fish are professionals, though they understand. Yeah, so yeah,

768
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: no that's I. That is also I would like to

769
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: try that sometime. But my closest thing was that I

770
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: used to have a little fish that was carnivorous, so

771
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: I would feed it blood worms in the fish tank,

772
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: and it would always just kind of nibble my fingertips

773
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: as well, just to see if there's something something to

774
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: that as well. That's bold and brave of you. I

775
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: don't know that I would ever put my hand in

776
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: water with something that was carnivorous fish. But then again,

777
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: human foot skin is meat, so I guess I have

778
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: done that kind of standard. I've established, right, But it's

779
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: meat we don't need, so why not share it with

780
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: the fish? Yeah? Well, I think we've just about done

781
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: it in terms of coral But we do have to

782
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: play a little game. It's called Guests Who Squawking? It's

783
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: the Mr Animal Sound game. Every week I play a

784
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Mry Animal sound and you the listener, and hey, heck,

785
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: even you, the guests, can guess, Hey, who's squawking? Now?

786
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: I say squawking, but it's it's not always birds. Sometimes

787
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: it's birds, not always birds, It could be any animal

788
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: in the world. And you try to guess who's squawking

789
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: with nothing but a cryptic hint that I leave for you.

790
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: So last week's hint was the sharks and the Jets

791
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: are about to have a showdown, but they really ought

792
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: to calm down. I have a guess, Yeah, I guess

793
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: who's squawking? I mean, based off of the description of

794
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: the sharks of the jets, is it something like a

795
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: knife bill like a knife like a knife bill burn?

796
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing? Or my fingers. Something ghosts. Fine,

797
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: guess there's spoonbill. Oh, that was what I was thinking of,

798
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: a fork bill. No, that's what I was thinking, runs

799
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: able spoonbill bird. Uh No, it's not that any other guy,

800
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: is it? Is it a mammalian? Yes? Is it a

801
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Is it a a? Is it a sea otter? Close?

802
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: So close? A river otter? Yes? You got it? Yeah,

803
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: nice one. These are rival gangs of giant river otters

804
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: encountering each other and fighting over territory. That is an

805
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: amazing gift. I've actually you know what's funny is I

806
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's actually tried to like narrow it down

807
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: by asking me, like, is it a mammal? But I'm

808
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: happy to do it. Well, there's lots of animals that

809
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: squeak in that way. Uh. And they they they have

810
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: a delightful otter. I just moved to d C. And

811
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: we just went to the smiths Odian Zoo, which has

812
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: a whole otter exhibit, and they I'll be danged if

813
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: they these guys aren't a little cuties. They are. These

814
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: ones are big cuties though. Well that's less. That doesn't

815
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: do it for me. They're five and a half feet

816
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: or one point seven meters of cute. That's a big hotter.

817
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: It's a it's a giant river otter. It's found in

818
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: South America. And you know, as you gets from their

819
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: name their giant river otters. So uh, they are big, fierce,

820
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: and carnivorous. And while they eat mostly fish, they have

821
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: also been known to take down a kimon. Oh they suck.

822
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I could Google image search these things river otters. No,

823
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: I still I still mess with these guys. They got big,

824
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: they got big bushimi eyes. But I'm still I love this.

825
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm still look at them. WHOA Well, okay, now there's

826
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: some pictures of these guys that is actually not Some

827
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: of these are like somebody drew a hotter they saw

828
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: in a nightmare. Yeah, terrible looks like an even worse

829
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: animal trying to crawl out of the face of this animal.

830
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: They're kind of a fuss noodle, I will admit, but

831
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: this is an auto that's seen some quack. A bit

832
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: of a fussy noodle. But they have own natural predators

833
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: aside from humans, because you know, look at them, but

834
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: they are quite competitive and territorial with other groups of

835
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: giant otters. They have throat patches that look like roor

836
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: shart tests that actually act as name tags to identify

837
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: themselves to their friends. So within a group of otters,

838
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: they're quite friendly, they have extended family units, they hang out,

839
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: They're pretty gentle with each other. There's not a lot

840
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: of internal conflict. But if there's a territorial conflict between

841
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: two big groups of otters who are fighting over I

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00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know, a piece of river, uh, it can get

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Speaker 1: pretty hairy. There have been otter murders where it's like

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Speaker 1: they find a dead river otter, it's like, who could

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Speaker 1: have done this? And turns out the culprit was coming

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Speaker 1: from inside the river the whole time. They need a

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Speaker 1: better pr person because the top Google image results searches

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Speaker 1: for these things are are grow testus. They need better

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Speaker 1: s e O these animals do, I'm google ing? I

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Speaker 1: also think they should push it just be called river

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Speaker 1: otters and whatever the other ones are should be called

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Speaker 1: really tiny river otters normalize. Yeah. Yeah, the one where

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Speaker 1: he's like standing and staring kind of like it is.

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Speaker 1: It does trigger a little bit of that like fear

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Speaker 1: I have in me of being eaten by a giant otter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this very new fear, I fear. Well, Uh, let's move

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Speaker 1: on to this week's Mr Animal sound. The hint is,

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Speaker 1: who's this knocking? Well, don't let it raise your hackles.

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Speaker 1: Ah ah, that's the sound. Can you guys guess who's squawking?

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Speaker 1: I was ready for it to be a dog? What

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Speaker 1: the sorry? That is a that's um, that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: a swallow? Oh is that cockatial? It's something with a

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Speaker 1: fan that raises up right, you're talking about that. It's

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Speaker 1: something we think. I don't know. I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: have no idea it is it mammalian? Um? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing you'll find out on next week's episode of

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Speaker 1: Creature Feature. Yeah, that's right. It's it's a big cliffhanger.

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Speaker 1: Who would have funk it? Oh, that's the animal. It's

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Speaker 1: a cliffhanger. Uh, it's actually um, it's actually me. I

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Speaker 1: knew it. So yes, if you think you know who

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Speaker 1: is squawking, you came write to me at Creature Feature Product,

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Speaker 1: Gmail dot com. I'm also on Twitter Creature feet pod.

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Speaker 1: That's not eighteen that has something very different. Uh, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. If I if people even need to ask,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you? The easiest way is to

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00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: go to mclroy dot family. It's a webpage that has

878
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: all our shows on it and like links to everything.

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Speaker 1: That's the easiest way. Yeah, we don't know that much

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Speaker 1: about animals. I'm just saying, if you heard us on

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Speaker 1: this and you're like, more animal guys, these guys are

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Speaker 1: really smart about animals. I don't think anyone would come

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Speaker 1: away from this episode. Okay that is fair, yes, Travis,

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Speaker 1: but yes, definitely if you have not listened to The

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Speaker 1: ether c Adventure Zone, I highly recommend it if you

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Speaker 1: enjoy marine life. I mean no, it's not a textbook

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Speaker 1: of animal knowledge, but it is highly entertaining and I

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Speaker 1: think it definitely stays true to the biology of the ocean.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you guys so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for listening. If you're

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Speaker 1: enjoying the show and you want to leave a rating

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Speaker 1: or review, I will be eternally grateful. Beyond the universe,

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Speaker 1: beyond time itself. Ah, thanks so much the Space Classics

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts like the

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday.